PDA

View Full Version : Georgia president proposes 8-team football playoff



saint0917
January 8th, 2008, 04:59 PM
They should do more then 8, but it is a step in the right direction. xthumbsupx


The president of the University of Georgia is calling for an eight-team playoff system for college football's top division, saying the Bowl Championship Series -- which left Georgia out of its championship game -- has become a "beauty contest largely stage-managed by the networks."

In a public statement and a letter to NCAA president Myles Brand, Georgia president Michael F. Adams, who is also chairman of the NCAA executive committee, called for an eight-team playoff to decide the national championship, with the opening rounds to be played in the four major BCS bowl games. He proposed the change be made as soon as the contracts that govern the BCS expire.

Adams was scheduled to hold a news conference Tuesday afternoon to discuss the proposal. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution first reported that Adams would support a playoff.

"This year's experience with the BCS forces me to the conclusion that the current system has lost public confidence and simply does not work," Adams said in news release. "It is undercutting the sportsmanship and integrity of the game."

Georgia president: Schools need to regain control of postseason (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3186232)

Fresno St. Alum
January 8th, 2008, 05:01 PM
I f'ing proposed it in 1987 when I was 10 but no one listens

th0m
January 8th, 2008, 05:09 PM
Didn't Florida also propose this last year after they won their "NC".

Fresno St. Alum
January 8th, 2008, 05:17 PM
yeah I think so

For the record if we had a playoff

Georgia vs USC would have been the title game as long as they were on different ends of the bracket

Appaholic
January 8th, 2008, 05:17 PM
They should do more then 8, but it is a step in the right direction. xthumbsupx


The president of the University of Georgia is calling for an eight-team playoff system for college football's top division, saying the Bowl Championship Series -- which left Georgia out of its championship game -- has become a "beauty contest largely stage-managed by the networks."

In a public statement and a letter to NCAA president Myles Brand, Georgia president Michael F. Adams, who is also chairman of the NCAA executive committee, called for an eight-team playoff to decide the national championship, with the opening rounds to be played in the four major BCS bowl games. He proposed the change be made as soon as the contracts that govern the BCS expire.

Adams was scheduled to hold a news conference Tuesday afternoon to discuss the proposal. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution first reported that Adams would support a playoff.

"This year's experience with the BCS forces me to the conclusion that the current system has lost public confidence and simply does not work," Adams said in news release. "It is undercutting the sportsmanship and integrity of the game."

Georgia president: Schools need to regain control of postseason (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3186232)

What's sad is that, had Georgia been in the championship game, I doubt Mr. Adams would have bothered writing the letter.........cash whores all of them....xnonox

Marcus Garvey
January 8th, 2008, 05:17 PM
(No Pac-10) + (No Big 10) = No playoffs*


*Meaning, no playoff system that crowns an undisputed champion.

Appaholic
January 8th, 2008, 05:22 PM
At this point, let them have their precious fokking Rose Bowl.....create a playoff without Pac10 & Big10 with an open-ended invite to join whenever their fans scream loud enough for the deaf admins to hear....eventually, it only hurts the Pac10 and Big10......our playoffs seem to do OK without Ivy League....

Marcus Garvey
January 8th, 2008, 05:27 PM
At this point, let them have their precious fokking Rose Bowl.....create a playoff without Pac10 & Big10 with an open-ended invite to join whenever their fans scream loud enough for the deaf admins to hear....eventually, it only hurts the Pac10 and Big10......our playoffs seem to do OK without Ivy League....

Because not including the Ivy League is the equivalent of not incuding the MAC for a I-A playoff.

I think you overestimate the zealousness for a playoff on the part of most schools. Only about a dozen or so football factories are really intested in a playoff.

I guess what cracks me up is how sanctimonious people get over this issue. Like it's really that big a deal. I could care less if there is a playoff. I'm curious to see if the Pac-10 and Big-10 hold out and possibly sink this. I think they'll try to hold out first, rather than enter into an agreement driven by the SEC. Remember, the Bowl Alliance? It didn't become the BCS until they joined under their terms, and even since, the Pac-10 has threatened to leave.

jstate83
January 8th, 2008, 05:30 PM
Pac10 and Big10 don't wanna mess with the ROSE Bowl Tradition.
USC -vs- Illinois was a real nail biter. xlolx

Thunderstruck84
January 8th, 2008, 05:31 PM
"This year's experience with the BCS forces me to the conclusion that the current system has lost public confidence and simply does not work," Adams said in news release. "It is undercutting the sportsmanship and integrity of the game."
If he didn't realize that till this year he's blind and stupid.... and lying.

Appaholic
January 8th, 2008, 05:32 PM
Pac10 and Big10 don't wanna mess with the ROSE Bowl Tradition.
USC -vs- Illinois was a real nail biter. xlolx

Yeah....so was last year's USC-Michigan......real tradition there....xcoffeex

jstate83
January 8th, 2008, 05:32 PM
BTW:
The top 10 teamsis enough
Any team outside of the top 10 just gotta suck it up and wait for next year.xnodx

Appaholic
January 8th, 2008, 05:35 PM
Because not including the Ivy League is the equivalent of not incuding the MAC for a I-A playoff.

I think you overestimate the zealousness for a playoff on the part of most schools. Only about a dozen or so football factories are really intested in a playoff.

I guess what cracks me up is how sanctimonious people get over this issue. Like it's really that big a deal. I could care less if there is a playoff. I'm curious to see if the Pac-10 and Big-10 hold out and possibly sink this. I think they'll try to hold out first, rather than enter into an agreement driven by the SEC. Remember, the Bowl Alliance? It didn't become the BCS until they joined under their terms, and even since, the Pac-10 has threatened to leave.

I don't mean to be sanctimonious about the issue, because, in the end, my school participates in a playoff and I kind of like having that over the FBS. It just frustrates the hell out of me when I hear these talking heads trying to justify the validity of these systems.....it's bunk...last night's game was no more a championship game than the Rose Bowl or the Orange Bowl....it was another game......The Emperor Wears No Clothes!

Fresno St. Alum
January 8th, 2008, 06:51 PM
Rose Bowl already sold out Michigan vs Texas, Washington St. vs Oklahoma so why not be fore the playoff. The Rose Bowl would be one of the sites for the playoffs anyway

griz37
January 8th, 2008, 07:09 PM
I think the Big 10 & PAC 10 are actually scared of how bad their representatives would fare in a playoff, look at the last 2 BCS title games with Ohio St.

Fresno St. Alum
January 8th, 2008, 07:18 PM
USC can play with anyone

JohnStOnge
January 8th, 2008, 08:54 PM
yeah I think so

For the record if we had a playoff

Georgia vs USC would have been the title game as long as they were on different ends of the bracket

That's a big assumption. I think LSU would've had problems with a playoff starting immediately after the season because of injuries. But I don't think Georgia is as good a football team as the healthy LSU team that played Ohio State last night. A totally healthy USC may be. But the emphasis is on may. A game between LSU and USC as they were when they played their bowl games would be very interesting.

Another thing about LSU is that the Tigers tended to hurt themselves with a lot of mistakes...especially penalties and dropped passes...during the season. If they play healthy and clean like they did last night they'd have been very tough for anybody to beat.

JohnStOnge
January 8th, 2008, 08:57 PM
BTW:
The top 10 teamsis enough
Any team outside of the top 10 just gotta suck it up and wait for next year.xnodx

If it's like the other Divisions, that wouldn't do it. Teams outside of the top 10 have won championships in playoff systems. I think the most recent one in I-AA was Western Kentucky in 2002. Youngstown State won it once after finishing the regular season ranked 13th.

I think 16 is a very good number. I think you might have some quibbling about whether or not someone got in but I don't think anybody with a reasonable shot of winning it all would be left out. I don't think cutting it off at 10 would accomplish that.

JohnStOnge
January 8th, 2008, 09:03 PM
USC can play with anyone

And they were also capable of losing at home to Stanford. Yes, they were playing with an injured starting quarterback. But the fact they lost to Stanford tells me that they'd have been very capable of losing a playoff game somewhere along the way. I don't think they'd have at all been a lock to make it to the championship game in a tournament structured like the FCS tournament is.

TexasTerror
January 9th, 2008, 08:29 AM
What's this about? I thought Division I has a playoff -- guess Georgia's president does not like the 16 team field and wants to make sure the NEC has no chance at getting in.

It's interesting to hear that Georgia's President talking about moving into FCS. Is the SoCon ready to accept a team that has played at a lower-level for such a long time?
--------------------
Georgia President Michael Adams is proposing an eight-team playoff administered by the NCAA. Adams, the Southeastern Conference's representative on the NCAA Board of Directors, said he has written NCAA President Myles Brand requesting that Brand appoint a committee to consider its feasibility.

"I do think I'm in a position where I can get a formal conversation started at this point where it needs to take place, and that's the NCAA Division I level," Adams said. "Ultimately, I think we can come up with a better system."

http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-35/1199859705289430.xml&coll=1

asu7
January 9th, 2008, 08:43 AM
It means that the children are finally starting to open their eyes!

TexasTerror
January 9th, 2008, 08:45 AM
It means that the children are finally starting to open their eyes!

I'm confused -- we already have a Division I playoff! How are they finally starting to open their eyes. Must've been really blind to it...

Why is it that Georgia not only wants to be in FCS, but they want to alter our current set-up? They must not be a big fan of DaytonFlyer and all those PFL, NEC folks...must not be.... xcoolx

phillyAPP
January 9th, 2008, 08:47 AM
What's this about? I thought Division I has a playoff -- guess Georgia's president does not like the 16 team field and wants to make sure the NEC has no chance at getting in.

It's interesting to hear that Georgia's President talking about moving into FCS. Is the SoCon ready to accept a team that has played at a lower-level for such a long time?
--------------------
Georgia President Michael Adams is proposing an eight-team playoff administered by the NCAA. Adams, the Southeastern Conference's representative on the NCAA Board of Directors, said he has written NCAA President Myles Brand requesting that Brand appoint a committee to consider its feasibility.

"I do think I'm in a position where I can get a formal conversation started at this point where it needs to take place, and that's the NCAA Division I level," Adams said. "Ultimately, I think we can come up with a better system."

http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-35/1199859705289430.xml&coll=1




WELCOME GEORGIA --------- SEE YA IN 2011 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

asu7
January 9th, 2008, 08:47 AM
LOL ... to them we will not be division 1 unless we beat them ... then they know what division we are in ...

You would think that he would know what division we are in!

AshevilleApp2
January 9th, 2008, 08:57 AM
I'm confused -- we already have a Division I playoff! How are they finally starting to open their eyes. Must've been really blind to it...

Why is it that Georgia not only wants to be in FCS, but they want to alter our current set-up? They must not be a big fan of DaytonFlyer and all those PFL, NEC folks...must not be.... xcoolx

Funny, I witnessed the same confusion on "The Sports Reporters" this past Sunday. One of the knowledgeable sages on the panel was complaining about no D-1 playoffs. Sigh. xsmhx

asu7
January 9th, 2008, 09:15 AM
again folks we are not D1 to them unless we beat em ... we gotta start beating them on a regular basis ...

Seahawks Fan
January 9th, 2008, 09:19 AM
IMHO the BCS Championship game has devalued the bowl games. I'm pretty sure the TV ratings will support that. A BCS (I-A) playoff system will make those games meaningfull again. And increase their TV value. The BCS boys should get it done.

asu7
January 9th, 2008, 09:23 AM
IMHO the BCS Championship game has devalued the bowl games. I'm pretty sure the TV ratings will support that. A BCS (I-A) playoff system will make those games meaningfull again. And increase their TV value. The BCS boys should get it done.


I really believe they will too ... I believe by 2011 it will be different ... just not sure how much ...

It will go to a playoff tho it is just a matter of time ...

I look for their to be a 16 team field before all is said and done!

Even tho terror already said we already have one in D1 ... guess we will have 2 lol.

TexasTerror
January 9th, 2008, 09:36 AM
Even tho terror already said we already have one in D1 ... guess we will have 2 lol.

So, what will they call the BS playoffs? FCS already has the market cornered on the Division I Championship and Division I playoffs. Don't tell me we have to go through another name change? Good thing Ralph has 'College Sporting News' now instead of I-AA.org...

asu7
January 9th, 2008, 09:45 AM
So, what will they call the BS playoffs? FCS already has the market cornered on the Division I Championship and Division I playoffs. Don't tell me we have to go through another name change? Good thing Ralph has 'College Sporting News' now instead of I-AA.org...

Good question ... xconfusedx

ButlerGSU
January 9th, 2008, 11:01 AM
WELCOME GEORGIA --------- SEE YA IN 2011 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We'll swap with you, yall head to Athens next season and we'll take 2011 xlolx

PaladinFan
January 9th, 2008, 06:57 PM
We'll swap with you, yall head to Athens next season and we'll take 2011 xlolx

I feel for you guys. Y'all are going to get pummelled.

Funny thing is most UGA students (if not ALL UGA students) hate President Adams. He is soundly booed at most Bulldog sporting events.

yorkcountyUNHfan
January 9th, 2008, 07:01 PM
And they were also capable of losing at home to Stanford. Yes, they were playing with an injured starting quarterback. But the fact they lost to Stanford tells me that they'd have been very capable of losing a playoff game somewhere along the way. I don't think they'd have at all been a lock to make it to the championship game in a tournament structured like the FCS tournament is.

USC and App St had the same type of (regular) season.

I'm sure they'd have loved a chance to prove it. (in the post season)

phillyAPP
January 9th, 2008, 07:12 PM
We'll swap with you, yall head to Athens next season and we'll take 2011 xlolx

They won't want AE in his senior year and they will have to switch with LSU.

Either one is OK with me. I love going to the SEC games with nothing to lose.

appchuck
January 9th, 2008, 11:14 PM
BCS is perfect for the Big 10, where there may be 1 good team(looks like this year that team may have been Michigan). The BCS is horrible for the SEC since lately they seem to be the conference, and they beat each other.

Looking at the games, I would say that the national champ could have been, West Virginia, USC, LSU, Georgia, Missouri, or Kansas...but we will never know.

kardplayer
January 10th, 2008, 01:33 AM
Who says an 8 team playoff has to be seeded?

Just let the Big Ten champ play the Pac 10 champ in the Rose Bowl, put the other 6 teams in the other three bowls, and play from there.

I did hear that the Cotton Bowl wants to be a BCS bowl once the Cowboys build their new stadium, but I don't know if that impacts this at all.

HaveFunKc
January 10th, 2008, 08:18 AM
They won't want AE in his senior year and they will have to switch with LSU.

Either one is OK with me. I love going to the SEC games with nothing to lose.

Let's keep LSU and switch with GSU... xlolx xlolx Take on the Tigers and the Bulldogs in '09!! It's be a blast! xthumbsupx

APPride
January 10th, 2008, 08:33 AM
well, I guess playing for the K-Mart trophy has really defined the BCS sellout to the almighty $$...xrotatehx xrotatehx

https://www.appfan.com/blog/?p=569

the K-MART TROPHY? C'MON! xeyebrowx

bodoyle
January 10th, 2008, 09:22 AM
The only way it will happen is if enough big name teams, and media darlings (USC, Notre Dame etc) bit*h and moan about it for a few years. Then it might get started, but as for 8-10 teams, I dunno if that'll happen anytime soon.

JohnStOnge
January 10th, 2008, 08:59 PM
BCS is perfect for the Big 10, where there may be 1 good team(looks like this year that team may have been Michigan). The BCS is horrible for the SEC since lately they seem to be the conference, and they beat each other.

.

The SEC has won 4 national championships under the BCS system while the Big 10 has won 1. I don't see how it's bad for the SEC.

I'm glad LSU won this year. But a 2 loss team got into the BCS championship game strictly because the majority of pollsters wanted them there.

JohnStOnge
January 10th, 2008, 09:04 PM
BCS is perfect for the Big 10, where there may be 1 good team(looks like this year that team may have been Michigan).

You do realize, don't you, that Ohio State beat Michigan at Ann Arbor while holding the Wolverines to 8 first downs and 91 yards total offense?

Michigan was not the best team in the Big 10.

Why Ohio State has had such a problem showing up in the last two BCS championship games is a mystery. But lets bear in mind that Ohio State has been to three of those things while Michigan hasn't made it to one yet.