Sports Network Announces 2007 All-America Teams

[smallcollegefbfan]

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/news/AGN4120590.htm

Appalachian State dominates 2007 Sports Network All-America squad

Philadelphia, PA (Sports Network) - Fresh off an unprecedented third consecutive national championship, Appalachian State pulled off some more history with a record 11 selections to the 2007 Sports Network FCS All-America squad announced on Saturday.

The Mountaineers bested the previous high of eight players and nine positions won by Marshall on the 1996 All-America squad. Randy Moss was named as a wide receiver and kick returner on that team.

ASU senior free safety Corey Lynch, who placed second to Montana defensive end Kroy Biermann by five points in the closest Buck Buchanan Award balloting in history, was one of three players who were nearly unanimous picks on the 2007 All-America squad.

2007 SPORTS NETWORK ALL-AMERICA FIRST TEAM

Offense
Pos Player School Class
QB Jayson Foster Georgia Southern Senior
RB Omar Cuff Delaware Senior
RB Tim Hightower Richmond Senior
FB Jerome Felton Furman Senior
WR Ramses Barden Cal Poly Junior
WR Aaron Boyce Eastern Washington Senior
WR Terrell Hudgins Elon Sophomore
TE Matt Champa Dayton Senior
T Russell Orr Georgia Southern Senior
T Chad Rinehart Northern Iowa Senior
G Kerry Brown Appalachian State Senior
G Marcelo Estrada Georgia Southern Senior
C Brennan Carvalho Portland State Senior

Defense
Pos Player School Class
DE Kroy Biermann Montana Senior
DE Eric Bakhtiari San Diego Senior
DT Cory Clark Jackson State Senior
DT Anthony Williams Appalachian State Sophomore
LB Pierre Banks Appalachian State Junior
LB Brian Bradford Towson Senior
LB Bobby Daly Montana State Junior
LB Kye Stewart Illinois State Senior
CB Derrick Huff Eastern Kentucky Senior
CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Tennessee State Senior
S Tony LeZotte James Madison Senior
S Corey Lynch Appalachian State Senior
S Ladarius Webb Nicholls State Junior

Special Teams
Pos Player School Class
PK Jon Striefsky Delaware Junior
P Benjamin Dato Fordham Senior
KR JT Rogan San Diego Senior
PR Jeremy Gilchrist Hampton Junior

2007 SPORTS NETWORK ALL-AMERICA SECOND TEAM

Offense
Pos Player School Class
QB Armanti Edwards Appalachian State Sophomore
RB Mike McLeod Yale Junior
RB Tyler Roehl North Dakota State Junior
FB Mike Tolbert Coastal Carolina Senior
WR Eddie Cohen Western Carolina Senior
WR Tremayne Kirkland Portland State Senior
WR J.J. Moore Massachusetts Senior
TE Scott Sicko New Hampshire Sophomore
T Mike Byrne Delaware Senior
T Corey McKenna Wofford Senior
G Matt Alfred Eastern Washington Senior
G Barret Anderson Northern Iowa Senior
C Stephen Field Cal Poly Senior

Defense
Pos Player School Class
DE Brian Johnston Gardner-Webb Senior
DE Bryan Smith McNeese State Senior
DT Mark Huygens Northern Iowa Junior
DT Brian Jackson Lehigh Junior
LB Zach East Prairie View Senior
LB Mike Gallihugh Colgate Senior
LB Jason Hatchell Massachusetts Senior
LB Jason Williams Western Illinois Junior
CB K.J. Gerard Northern Arizona Senior
CB Steve Williams Harvard Senior
S Chris Camacho Chattanooga Senior
S Al Donaldson Alabama A&M Junior
S Bobbie Williams Bethune-Cookman Senior

Special Teams
Pos Player School Class
PK Julian Rauch Appalachian State Senior
P Tyson Johnson Montana Senior
KR Larry Shipp Tennessee Tech Senior
PR Johnny Gray Northern Iowa Senior

2007 SPORTS NETWORK ALL-AMERICA THIRD TEAM

Offense
Pos Player School Class
QB *Josh Johnson San Diego Senior
QB *Joe Flacco Delaware Senior
RB Kevin Richardson Appalachian State Senior
RB Jordan Scott Colgate Junior
FB Joe Casey Rhode Island Junior
WR Michael Mayers Elon Senior
WR Andre Roberts The Citadel Sophomore
WR Charles Sullivan Hofstra Senior
TE Blake Martin Sam Houston State Senior
T Nate Safe North Dakota State Senior
T David Hale Weber State Senior
G John Holt Appalachian State Senior
G Matthew McCracken Richmond Sophomore
C Scott Suttle Appalachian State Senior

Defense
Pos Player School Class
DE Jovan Belcher Maine Junior
DE Gary Tharrington Appalachian State Sophomore
DT Pat Nolan Colgate Senior
DT Mychel Savage Youngstown State Junior
LB Joe Mays North Dakota State Senior
LB Ronnie McCullough Bethune-Cookman Senior
LB Chauncey Mixon Southern Illinois Sophomore
LB Brannon Carter Northern Iowa Senior
CB *David Hyland Morehead State Junior
CB Tyler Koch South Dakota State Senior
CB *Jerome Touchstone Appalachian State Senior
S Brandon Gathof Eastern Kentucky Junior
S Jarmaul George Southern Senior
S Terrell Whitehead Norfolk State Junior

Special Teams
Pos Player School Class
K Dan Carpenter Montana Senior
P Chris McDonald Texas State Senior
KR Justin Rogers Richmond Freshman
PR *Tristan Jackson Central Arkansas Senior
PR *Anthony Weeden Prairie View Sophomore

* - Josh Johnson and Joe Flacco, David Hyland and Jerome Touchstone, and Tristan Jackson and Anthony Weeden tied with the same number of votes.

[grizband]

Carpenter the third string kicker? Really...

[slostang]

Nice to see Cal Poly center Stephen Field on the second team, but he is a junior and will be coming back next year.

[CSUBUCDAD]

CSU linebacker Jada Ross with 131 tackles and he is nowhere to be found? How is that possible?

[GOKATS]

Nice to see MSU's Bobby Daly made another 1st Team, he should be a frontrunner for the Buchanan Award next year.xthumbsupx

[grizband]

Nice to see MSU's Bobby Daly made another 1st Team, he should be a frontrunner for the Buchanan Award next year.xthumbsupx
Yes he should! xbowx

[813Jag]

Nice to see Jermaul George end his career with some well earned recognition.

[dungeonjoe]

Carpenter the third string kicker? Really...
seems your only as good as your last performance, not right though

[grizband]

seems your only as good as your last performance, not right thoughI couldn't agree more...Carpenter might not have had the most points, but I guarantee no kicker meant more to his team this year!

[WrenFGun]

Nice to see Scotty Sicko getting the national credit he deserves. He should be a beast for Toman next season, and he'll only be a junior.

[citdog]

CONGRATS TO CADET ANDRE ROBERTS FOR EARNING HIS SECOND ALL-AMERICA TEAM!


ROBERTS IS ONLY A THIRD CLASSMAN!

[NDSUFREAK]

Mike Dragosavich is not on there?...wow, that is pretty bad. Best punter in the country by far xcoffeex

[uofmman1122]

Another pretty solid All-American team, but...

<bitterness>

Dan Carpenter third team is a joke.

He makes game-saving kicks all year long, but the last one defines him to everyone else. xnonono2x

I'd bet Striefsky and Rauch would have a much harder time even making it to the goalpost in that weather.

</bitterness>

[smallcollegefbfan]

Mike Dragosavich is not on there?...wow, that is pretty bad. Best punter in the country by far xcoffeex

I agree. Drago has to be there. You can't blame Coulson for this but some of the voters are obviously clueless on him. He is going to the Senior Bowl for Christ sakes.

[SuperJon]

8-3 record
3rd ranked scoring offense
1st in punt return TDs

Not a single player on any team.

Wynton Jackson is one of three people with multiple punt retuns for TDs and isn't on a single list?

Gilchrist - TD every 6.67 returns
Gray - TD every 18 returns
T. Jackson - TD every 6 returns
Weeden - TD every 15 returns
W. Jackson - TD every 8.5 returns

Dominic Bolden was second in KR Avg and wasn't on a single list. I guess people being afraid to kick to him hurt him from getting any awards.

Rashad Jennings 6th in scoring, not on a list.

I'm not even asking for first or second team, but one of those three players deserved at least 3rd team.

I also think that Jada Ross (CSU) should've made one of the teams with a billion tackles this year. He was tied for 6th in terms of tackles/game for linebackers.

(Edit: This is not me knocking any of the players who actually did make the teams. I just feel that one of these three are good enough for a mention.)

[AZJack]

Estrada from GSU didn't hold Mitch Erickson's jockstrap in the SDSU-GSU game. That is a travesty that Mitch Erickson didn't make it. He's a first team all-american in the AFCA voting and doesn't make any of these three teams. Get a goddamn clue. Nate Safe from NDSU is a good lineman but Erickson was the best lineman in the GWFC this year and isn't on the team. I'm sure many other people were snubbed, but Erickson is one of the premier guards in the country.

[JMU_Fan_2007]

DT Anthony Williams Appalachian State Sophomore
LB Pierre Banks Appalachian State Junior
DE Gary Tharrington Appalachian State Sophomore


How is that possible? They got run all over all year. Couldn't stop the run if their lives depended on it.

[SuperEagle]

Estrada from GSU didn't hold Mitch Erickson's jockstrap in the SDSU-GSU game. That is a travesty that Mitch Erickson didn't make it. He's a first team all-american in the AFCA voting and doesn't make any of these three teams. Get a goddamn clue. Nate Safe from NDSU is a good lineman but Erickson was the best lineman in the GWFC this year and isn't on the team. I'm sure many other people were snubbed, but Erickson is one of the premier guards in the country.
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I don't even remember hearing Erickson's name. Am I missing something?
I went to YOUR website for the boxscore from that game and he is not listed http://www.gojacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=64627&SPID=7153&DB_OEM_ID=15000&ATCLID=1257968.
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You might want to retract your Estrada bashing. xnodx

[smallcollegefbfan]

DT Anthony Williams Appalachian State Sophomore
LB Pierre Banks Appalachian State Junior
DE Gary Tharrington Appalachian State Sophomore


How is that possible? They got run all over all year. Couldn't stop the run if their lives depended on it.

In the last two rounds ASU was much better. ASU got better each week of the playoffs. I think it would be scary to see this team still playing. They were fully healthy by the title game and looked very impressive. I also think JMU was better than their final rank. Had JMU not fumbled I believe they would have won the title. You guys played ASU more even than anyone else in the last 6 weeks of their season.

[smallcollegefbfan]

CSU linebacker Jada Ross with 131 tackles and he is nowhere to be found? How is that possible?

Ross is listed below as a honorable mention selection. Read the rest of it. Many players made honorable mention. I doubt anyone was missed from this list lol.


Honorable Mention (10 or more points)
OFFENSE
Quarterback: Nathan Brown, Central Arkansas; Liam Coen, Massachusetts; Nick Hill, Southern Illinois; Dominic Randolph, Holy Cross; Scott Riddle, Elon; Eric Sanders, Northern Iowa; Ricky Santos, New Hampshire.
Running Back: Jason Butler, Wagner; Herb Donaldson, Southern Illinois; Lex Hilliard, Montana; Corey Koenig, South Dakota State; Rashad Jennings, Liberty; Kevious Johnson, Wofford; Byron Lawrence, Northwestern State; Matt Lawrence, Massachusetts; Corey Lewis, Northern Iowa; David McCarty, Albany; Maurice Murray, Northeastern; Chad Simpson, Morgan State; Trevyn Smith, Weber State.
Fullback: Broderick Cole, Nicholls State; Michael Hobbs, Wofford; Olaniyi Sobomehin, Portland State; JoJo Freeman, Central Connecticut State.
Tight End: Robbie Agnone, Delaware; Drew Atchison, William & Mary; Marquez Branson, Central Arkansas; Shawn Fitzpatrick, Northern Arizona; Clay Harbor, Missouri State; Larry Hedden, Furman; Matt Sherry, Villanova; Jeremiah Wurzbacher, North Dakota State.
Wide Receiver: Hans Batichon, Appalachian State; Terrance Butler, Presbyterian; Wes Doyle, San Diego; Clyde Edwards, Grambling; Buddy Farnham, Brown; Jeremy Gilchrist, Hampton; Johnny Gray, Northern Iowa; Bruce Hocker, Duquesne; Ryan Hubbard, Davidson; Dexter Jackson, Appalachian State; Austin Knowlin, Columbia; Keith LeVan, New Hampshire; Aaron Love, Delaware; Cameron Luke, Texas State; Ryan Maher, Holy Cross; John Matthews, San Diego; Corey Mazza, Harvard; Shaheer McBride, Norfolk State; Paul Raymond, Brown; Micah Rucker, Eastern Illinois; Larry Shipp, Tennessee Tech; Jerome Simpson, Coastal Carolina; Eddie Thompson, Idaho State; Jarahn Williams, Harvard.
Center: Matt Austin, Massachusetts, Shawn Dedden, Eastern Kentucky; Colin Dow, Montana; Lance Freman, McNeese State; Raymond Harrison, South Carolina State; Kheon Hendricks, Delaware; Eric Hoffman, Northern Iowa; Drew Kair-Gross, Eastern Illinois; Scott Lemm, James Madison; Jordan Paopao, San Diego; John Reese, Lehigh; George Yarno, Idaho State.
Guard: Marshall Ausberry, Liberty; Gabe DeAnda, San Diego; Mitch Erickson, South Dakota State; Ben Gobossy, Nicholls State; Greg Lippert, Lafayette; Chaz Millard, Eastern Illinois; Jeff Monaco, Yale; Eman Naghavi, McNeese State; Sam Pagano, Albany; J.D. Quinn, Montana; Bakhari Thornton, Eastern Kentucky.
Tackle: Demetrius Bell, Northwestern State; Joel Bell, Furman; Andrew Brecher, Harvard; Adrian Brown, Delaware State; Keith Buckman, North Dakota State; Sean Dumford, Eastern Kentucky; Brandon Hale, Sam Houston State; Steve Jonas, Colgate; Brandon Keith, Northern Iowa; James Lee, South Carolina State; Darren Marquez, Southern Illinois; Jesse Padilla, Lafayette; Eddie Pinigis, Liberty; Anthony Rubican, Eastern Illinois; Brent Russem, Montana; Brad Samsa, Youngstown State; Isaiah Wiggins, Illinois State; James Williams, Harvard; Derek Wooten, Wofford; George Zoeckler, Davidson.
DEFENSE
Defensivie End: Wallace Artis, Furman; John Baranowsky, James Madison; Danny Batten, South Dakota State; Trevor Broughton, The Citadel; Chris Brown, Sam Houston State; Robert Brown, Wagner; David Burris, Massachusetts; James Cloud, Southern Illinois; Chris Coy, Eastern Kentucky; Derrick Gray, Texas Southern; Rudolph Hardie, Howard; Kendall Langford, Hampton; Jeremy Maddox, Alabama A&M; Matt Marcorelle, Delaware; Greg Peach, Eastern Washington; Tony Robertson, Appalachian State.
Defensive Tackle: Kyle Adams, Lehigh; Andrew Asbell, Drake; Justin Brown, Furman; Michael Dungey, Albany; Kalen Hemmelgarn, Dayton; Brandt Hollander, Yale; John Jackson, Tennessee Tech; Craig Mettler, Montana; John Scott, Jacksonville State; Kyle Sprenkle, Lafayette; Dan Walters, Iona; Lance Witherspoon, Eastern Washington; Geoffrey Woods, Tennessee Tech.
Linebacker: Bobby Abare, Yale; Justin Barnes, James Madison; Bryan Brand, Wagner; Mike Brannon, Sacramento State; Mario Brown, Gardner-Webb; Adam Casper, Southeast Missouri State; James Cottrell, Dartmouth; Marquez Davis, Norfolk State; Tim Diamond, Lehigh; Seth Goldwire, Wofford; Thaddeus Griffin, Winston- Salem State; Earl Hudnell, Fordham; Rechard Johnson, Alabama State; Brandin Jordan, Southern Illinois; Andrew Jones, Furman; Scott Lewis, St. Francis; Cyrus Mulitalo, Sacramento State; Quinton Phillips, Western Carolina; Vince Redd, Liberty; Russell Reeves, Delaware State; Jacque Roman, Appalachian State; Andy Romans, Lafayette; Jada Ross, Charleston Southern; Andrew Rowell, The Citadel; D.J. Smith, Appalachian State; James Terry, Youngstown State; Donald Thomas, Eastern Illinois; Timothy Turner, Arkansas-Pine Bluff; Gian Villante, Hofstra; Charles Walker, Massachusetts; Chad Wengert; Robert Morris; Josh Yarbrough, Tennessee-Martin.
Cornerback: Patrick Calvary, Liberty; Casey Gough, Holy Cross; Brian Kemp, Wofford; Cedric McGowan, Gardner-Webb; Bryan Richmond, Sam Houston State; Courtney Robinson, Massachusetts; Sean Small, Massachusetts; Patrick Stoudamire, Western Illinois; Ricky Wilson, Northern Arizona.
Safeties: Colt Anderson, Montana; Jesse Caesar, Illinois State; Chris Covington, Georgia Southern; Akeem Green, Delaware State; Cyrus Igono, Northern Arizona; Javorris Jackson, Savannah State; Clayton Johnson, Southern Illinois; Josh Lawson, The Citadel; Kareem Moore, Nicholls State; Marrio Norman, Coastal Carolina; Jeff Pammer, New Hampshire; Jordan Senn, Portland State; Maurice Smith, Tennessee Tech; Thomas Twitty, Furman; Clifford Waters, Northern Iowa; Chris Wynn, Penn.
Kickers: Piotr Czech, Wagner; Parker Douglass, South Dakota State; Peter Gaertner, Delaware State; Gavin Hallford, Jacksonville State; Jesse Hartley, Georgia Southern; Brian Palmer, Youngstown State; Taylor Rowan, Western Illinois; Dave Stannard, James Madison; Jeff Turner, Southeastern Louisiana.
Punters: Kevin Cook, Eastern Illinois; Robbie Dehaze, Northern Arizona; Mike Dragosavich, North Dakota State; Jason Leo, Lehigh; Scott Ravanesi, Southern Illinois; Doug Spada, Southeast Missouri State; Dan Zeidman, Idaho State.
Kickoff Returners: Dominic Bolden, Liberty; Maurice Dupree, Jacksonville Sate; Bryant Eteuati, Weber State; Michael Mayers, Elon; Tim Mayprey, VMI; J.D. Ponciano, Idaho State; Craig Turner, Southern Illinois; Shamen Washington, North Dakota State; Ladarius Webb, Nicholls State.
Punt Returners: Paul Aanonson, South Dakota State; Shawn Adair, Lafayette; Wynton Jackson, Liberty; Craig Turner, Southern Illinois; Ladarius Webb, Nicholls State.

[smallcollegefbfan]

8-3 record
3rd ranked scoring offense
1st in punt return TDs

Not a single player on any team.

Wynton Jackson is one of three people with multiple punt retuns for TDs and isn't on a single list?

Gilchrist - TD every 6.67 returns
Gray - TD every 18 returns
T. Jackson - TD every 6 returns
Weeden - TD every 15 returns
W. Jackson - TD every 8.5 returns

Dominic Bolden was second in KR Avg and wasn't on a single list. I guess people being afraid to kick to him hurt him from getting any awards.

Rashad Jennings 6th in scoring, not on a list.

I'm not even asking for first or second team, but one of those three players deserved at least 3rd team.

I also think that Jada Ross (CSU) should've made one of the teams with a billion tackles this year. He was tied for 6th in terms of tackles/game for linebackers.

(Edit: This is not me knocking any of the players who actually did make the teams. I just feel that one of these three are good enough for a mention.)

All of those guys and many more from Liberty made the honorable mention team.

[SuperJon]

I saw that once the honorable mention team was posted on here. I didn't click the link earlier thinking the entire list was posted.

[smallcollegefbfan]

I saw that once the honorable mention team was posted on here. I didn't click the link earlier thinking the entire list was posted.

Just thought I would mention that.

Oh okay. Just making sure. You can nitpick but overall the teams were very good. I would be shocked if anyone was totally overlooked.

[Tribe4SF]

Honorable Mention....

DE- Tony Robertson, ASU
LB- Jacque Roman, ASU...D.J. Smith, ASU

Let's see....8 ASU defenders named All-America.xeekx

Anyone surprised?xnonono2x

[Jerbearasu]

Even being an App fan I am surprised by this... Armanti Edwards makes 2nd team over Payton finalists Santos and Sanders who aren't on the list at all? Same with Bryan Smith being 2nd team while Anthony Williams garners 1st team honors? Pierre Banks may have deserved AA status but not 1st team... Julian Rauch wasn't a bad kicker but did he even attempt 15 field goals all year? Granted he did have about 200 XP tries but I know he missed on at least two of those to my recollection and I think there were some field goals blocked down the stretch too, not too mention poor kick-offs (not sure if that counts to the place kicker status of All-Americans but it should)... MANY question marks on this list...

[Jerbearasu]

Honorable Mention....

DE- Tony Robertson, ASU
LB- Jacque Roman, ASU...D.J. Smith, ASU

Let's see....8 ASU defenders named All-America.xeekx

Anyone surprised?xnonono2x
I think Jacque is deserving of an honorable mention but agree with you on Robertson and Smith... Robertson had good games but was not solid the whole year and Smith only started the second half of the season; although he really did start playing to an all-american level when he got some experience under his belt (and I am guessing he will be an all-american the next three years) but it needs to be the whole year not just part of the year that this voting should be based on...

[blueballs]

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I don't even remember hearing Erickson's name. Am I missing something?
I went to YOUR website for the boxscore from that game and he is not listed http://www.gojacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=64627&SPID=7153&DB_OEM_ID=15000&ATCLID=1257968.
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You might want to retract your Estrada bashing. xnodx

OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Erickson's name is listed NOWHERE in the official game stats either in the form of tackles or participation.

Somebody's got some 'splainin' and apologizin' to do... xnonono2x

[JohnStOnge]

None of the defensive ends listed as NFL prospects at the site http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/rankings/de.html made the first team. Two of them did make the second team.

Interesting that Hampton has two defensive ends listed at that site as NFL prospects. Neither made either first or second team though.

I was interested in defensive end for obvious reasons (Bryan Smith). But I wonder how similar assessment of all positions would turn out...that is if you looked at which FCS players are listed as NFL prospects and noted the number of occasions in which players that aren't listed as such made the All America team when others at the same position appear to be more highly regarded as potential players at the next level.

[slostang]

Cal Poly had the number one offense in the FCS (487 yds/gm) and the sixth scoring offense (39.3 pts/gm) and only had one player on the first team (Ramses Barden) and one on second team (Stephen Field). Interesting.

I expect that there will be many more on next year's All-American teams because 10 of 11 starters return on offense.

[JohnStOnge]

Honorable Mention....

DE- Tony Robertson, ASU
LB- Jacque Roman, ASU...D.J. Smith, ASU

Let's see....8 ASU defenders named All-America.xeekx

Anyone surprised?xnonono2x

I don't know if surprised is the word but I would not have anticipated it because they weren't that good statistically on defense this year. At first glance they appear to have won because their outstanding offense was powerful enough to overcome having a mediocre defense. They finished 70th in total defense and 63rd in scoring defense.

Part of that might be because of having played four playoff teams as well as Michigan but even if you just look at regular season FCS opponents it was 376 yards and 27 points per game. Those numbers would correspond to 68th in total defense and 65th in scoring defense in the final NCAA defensive stats.

[JohnStOnge]

Cal Poly had the number one offense in the FCS (487 yds/gm) and the sixth scoring offense (39.3 pts/gm) and only had one player on the first team (Ramses Barden) and one on second team (Stephen Field). Interesting.

I expect that there will be many more on next year's All-American teams because 10 of 11 starters return on offense.

Well...I sure hope McNeese's defense is ready to achieve a lot better performance than that stinker it put up against Eastern Washington.

[Tribe4SF]

I don't know if surprised is the word but I would not have anticipated it because they weren't that good statistically on defense this year. At first glance they appear to have won because their outstanding offense was powerful enough to overcome having a mediocre defense. They finished 70th in total defense and 63rd in scoring defense.

Part of that might be because of having played four playoff teams as well as Michigan but even if you just look at regular season FCS opponents it was 376 yards and 27 points per game. Those numbers would correspond to 68th in total defense and 65th in scoring defense in the final NCAA defensive stats.

The point was that Mr. C is at the helm of Sportsnetwork, so none of us should be surprised.xcoffeex

[gmoney55]

Surprised by the number of App players only because the voting for TSN is always conducted before the playoffs in the past. Unless this A-A is unlike every other and includes playoffs?

[UNH_Alum_In_CT]

Nice to see Scotty Sicko getting the national credit he deserves. He should be a beast for Toman next season, and he'll only be a junior.

Agreed!! Now, the big question is exactly how many years of eligibility does he have left? He's listed on the roster on the UNH web site as a sophomore. But in the UNH game notes for the UNI Playoff game, that roster lists Scott as a Redshirt Freshman.

I sure don't recall Sicko playing much, if at all, as a true freshman. Maybe he was playing special teams and I didn't notice.

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[slostang]

Well...I sure hope McNeese's defense is ready to achieve a lot better performance than that stinker it put up against Eastern Washington.

McNeese limped into that game and were nowhere near the team they were at the start of the year. I am sure that playing a great team like McNeese State on the road will be a huge challenge for Cal Poly. I will be there and I am looking forward to tailgating with the great fans of McNeese State.

[NDSUFREAK]

soo, can anyone explain why all these players weren't on there that deserve it more than the ones already on the list??

[smallcollegefbfan]

None of the defensive ends listed as NFL prospects at the site http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/rankings/de.html made the first team. Two of them did make the second team.

Interesting that Hampton has two defensive ends listed at that site as NFL prospects. Neither made either first or second team though.

I was interested in defensive end for obvious reasons (Bryan Smith). But I wonder how similar assessment of all positions would turn out...that is if you looked at which FCS players are listed as NFL prospects and noted the number of occasions in which players that aren't listed as such made the All America team when others at the same position appear to be more highly regarded as potential players at the next level.


See many of us think that a NFL prospect has to be on the AA team but when you think about it that is not always true. Langford had a bit of a down year and the other Hampton DL did not have great numbers. Both are more projections than anything. Size doesnt make you an All-American and Langford wouldn't be a NFL prospect if he was 6'1. Being 6'6, 295 helps getting looks. Biermann, Smith, Johnston, etc. have all had better years this year but Langford has more upside than those two, because of his size.

[smallcollegefbfan]

I don't know if surprised is the word but I would not have anticipated it because they weren't that good statistically on defense this year. At first glance they appear to have won because their outstanding offense was powerful enough to overcome having a mediocre defense. They finished 70th in total defense and 63rd in scoring defense.

Part of that might be because of having played four playoff teams as well as Michigan but even if you just look at regular season FCS opponents it was 376 yards and 27 points per game. Those numbers would correspond to 68th in total defense and 65th in scoring defense in the final NCAA defensive stats.

Someone made a good point before about their defense. While they have been soft in the middle this year you have to consider the time they spend on the field. When an offense scores in 30 seconds, 1 minute, or even 2 minutes like ASU did many times this year, it is almost like a 3 and out. When the offense scores in just 4-7 plays the defense gets tired and might give up plays they wouldn't have given up before.

I agree that there were too many defenders on the AA list from ASU, but I also believe they were better than people have tabbed them. They came up big when they were need to come up big and did not let the other team outscore them. ASU had a GREAT offense and a solid, not great, but solid defense. Next year's defense returns everyone in the front seven. They should be a lot better up front next year.

[smallcollegefbfan]

The point was that Mr. C is at the helm of Sportsnetwork, so none of us should be surprised.xcoffeex

He had nothing to do with that. He is just one voter. You have to remember when these teams were voted on. Unlike last year, ballots were sent out after the playoffs. V

oters were asked to fill out a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd team this year. In years past you would only vote for 5 OL and this year you voted for 15. This year 6 RBs were voted, instead of 4. There were 9 LBs voted unlike past years where there were just 4.

When a team wins a 3rd title in a row and voters don't vote until after the playoffs, you will see more players from that team make it than they would had you only voted on a 3rd team. The Richmond OL that made the team was only a 2nd team All-CAA pick.

There were a lot of picks on there from ASU, Richmond, Delaware, etc. who went very far in the playoffs. McNeese, Montana, and UNI did not have as many on there because they did not do well in the playoffs. I think the playoffs are at "fault" here, if you are pointing blame at something. Most people didn't know how voting changed and when it was done this year.

Does that clear up why more ASU players made it than before?

[smallcollegefbfan]

Surprised by the number of App players only because the voting for TSN is always conducted before the playoffs in the past. Unless this A-A is unlike every other and includes playoffs?

It was done after the playoffs. That is a HUGE reason for more ASU, UD, Richmond players, etc.

[JackTwice]

OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Erickson's name is listed NOWHERE in the official game stats either in the form of tackles or participation.

Somebody's got some 'splainin' and apologizin' to do... xnonono2x

Last time I looked offensive guards don't usually get listed in the official game stats.

I was a bit miffed that Erickson didn't get mentioned either as one of the top six guards in the nation but then it hit me. These all american teams are like FCS polls, they are everywhere and not one of them can claim to truly be definitive. For a division that settles things on the field we sure seem to be enamoured with polls and opinion. .

[smallcollegefbfan]

Last time I looked offensive guards don't usually get listed in the official game stats.

I was a bit miffed that Erickson didn't get mentioned either as one of the top six guards in the nation but then it hit me. These all american teams are like FCS polls, they are everywhere and not one of them can claim to truly be definitive. For a division that settles things on the field we sure seem to be enamoured with polls and opinion. .

Very true. I am going to take all of the AA teams from the media and do a concensus list. I am going to give 1 pt for 3rd team, 2 for 2nd team, and 3 for 3 team. It might be interesting to see how the AA team would look if you combined 3-5 media outlets. So far the AP and TSN have 1st-3rd teams while the AFCA and Walter Camp have just a 1st team. CSN does a full list of 50. CSN will be harder to calculate because they don't list the OL of the year or DEF POY on the actual team.

Ralph, how do you want that calculated? You have 50 guys so I was thinking of picking a 1st team and 2nd team on yours? For the positions like LS who only have one player I was going to just give that player a 1st team vote.

[Saint3333]

Honorable Mention....

DE- Tony Robertson, ASU
LB- Jacque Roman, ASU...D.J. Smith, ASU

Let's see....8 ASU defenders named All-America.xeekx

Anyone surprised?xnonono2x

Yeah these guys suck. Remember ASU plays in the SoCon, which is arguably the best offensive conference in the FCS. It's easy to make a general statement without actually watching these guys play.xcoffeex

Corey Lynch - there is no argument stats aren't necessary
Pierre Banks, LB - 108 Tackles, 7 TFL, 2.5 Sacks, 6 Pass Breakups
Gary Tharrington, DE - 84 Tackles, 18 TFL, 5 Sacks, 7 QB Hurries
Anthony Williams, DT - 74 Tackles, 11 TFL, 5 Sacks
Jerome Touchstone - his stats aren't impressive, but that's because no one throws to his side of the field, he has been a shutdown corner for 3 years.

Tony Robertson, DE - 62 Tackles, 15.5 TFL, 5.5 Sacks
Jacque Roman, LB - 127 Tackles, 5.5 TFL
DJ Smith, LB - 121 Tackles, 5.5 TFL, 11 Pass Breakups, 2 INTs

6 of these guys are back next year.:D

[Tribe4SF]

Yeah these guys suck. Remember ASU plays in the SoCon, which is arguably the best offensive conference in the FCS. It's easy to make a general statement without actually watching these guys play.xcoffeex

Corey Lynch - there is no argument stats aren't necessary
Pierre Banks, LB - 108 Tackles, 7 TFL, 2.5 Sacks, 6 Pass Breakups
Gary Tharrington, DE - 84 Tackles, 18 TFL, 5 Sacks, 7 QB Hurries
Anthony Williams, DT - 74 Tackles, 11 TFL, 5 Sacks
Jerome Touchstone - his stats aren't impressive, but that's because no one throws to his side of the field, he has been a shutdown corner for 3 years.

Tony Robertson, DE - 62 Tackles, 15.5 TFL, 5.5 Sacks
Jacque Roman, LB - 127 Tackles, 5.5 TFL
DJ Smith, LB - 121 Tackles, 5.5 TFL, 11 Pass Breakups, 2 INTs

6 of these guys are back next year.:D

Of course they don't suck, but there are plenty of players with impressive stats not listed on that team. Few would debate that ASU's defense was not their strength this year. For 6 of their front seven to make AA after ranking 87th in the division against the run is a bit much. Just because your team wins the NC doesn't automatically make everyone on the squad an All-American. Unless your name is Coulson, of course.

[UDBlueLotFan]

There should be atleast 2-3 MEAC refs on the list xsmiley_wix xoopsx xbawlingx

[citdog]

8-3 record
3rd ranked scoring offense
1st in punt return TDs

Not a single player on any team.

Wynton Jackson is one of three people with multiple punt retuns for TDs and isn't on a single list?

Gilchrist - TD every 6.67 returns
Gray - TD every 18 returns
T. Jackson - TD every 6 returns
Weeden - TD every 15 returns
W. Jackson - TD every 8.5 returns

Dominic Bolden was second in KR Avg and wasn't on a single list. I guess people being afraid to kick to him hurt him from getting any awards.

Rashad Jennings 6th in scoring, not on a list.

I'm not even asking for first or second team, but one of those three players deserved at least 3rd team.

I also think that Jada Ross (CSU) should've made one of the teams with a billion tackles this year. He was tied for 6th in terms of tackles/game for linebackers.

(Edit: This is not me knocking any of the players who actually did make the teams. I just feel that one of these three are good enough for a mention.)

perhaps if the little south played anyone they would get some recognition. since you don't.... you don't.

[CSN-info]

Very true. I am going to take all of the AA teams from the media and do a concensus list. I am going to give 1 pt for 3rd team, 2 for 2nd team, and 3 for 3 team. It might be interesting to see how the AA team would look if you combined 3-5 media outlets. So far the AP and TSN have 1st-3rd teams while the AFCA and Walter Camp have just a 1st team. CSN does a full list of 50. CSN will be harder to calculate because they don't list the OL of the year or DEF POY on the actual team.

Ralph, how do you want that calculated? You have 50 guys so I was thinking of picking a 1st team and 2nd team on yours? For the positions like LS who only have one player I was going to just give that player a 1st team vote.

xconfusedx

http://www.collegesportingnews.com/article.asp?articleid=89565

Defensive Player of the Year: Corey Lynch, Appalachian State, S, 6-0, 205, Sr., Cape Coral, FL
Offensive Lineman of the Year: Kerry Brown, Appalachian State, G, 6-6, 310, Sr., Marietta, GA

The "50" includes those POY. None of the AA teams name an Offensive Lineman of the Year, Playoff Most Valuable Player and Freshman of the Year etc. EXCEPT CSN and only one besides CSN names an Offensive and Defensive Player of the Year (not to mention Coach of the Year). So I don't understand what you're talking about.

They're all a "first team" - there is no "second team" for the CSN "Fabulous 50". You can count it for your purposes how you want, but they were all picked as a first team.

[andy7171]

Brian Bradford 1st team LB, making Towson proud!

[smallcollegefbfan]

xconfusedx

http://www.collegesportingnews.com/article.asp?articleid=89565

Defensive Player of the Year: Corey Lynch, Appalachian State, S, 6-0, 205, Sr., Cape Coral, FL
Offensive Lineman of the Year: Kerry Brown, Appalachian State, G, 6-6, 310, Sr., Marietta, GA

The "50" includes those POY. None of the AA teams name an Offensive Lineman of the Year, Playoff Most Valuable Player and Freshman of the Year etc. EXCEPT CSN and only one besides CSN names an Offensive and Defensive Player of the Year (not to mention Coach of the Year). So I don't understand what you're talking about.

They're all a "first team" - there is no "second team" for the CSN "Fabulous 50". You can count it for your purposes how you want, but they were all picked as a first team.

Okay I will give everyone a 1st team vote. I was thinking since you list the team below the POY honorees that it I might need to give some people a different point total. I will give everyone a 1st place vote on the team.

[Saint3333]

Of course they don't suck, but there are plenty of players with impressive stats not listed on that team. Few would debate that ASU's defense was not their strength this year. For 6 of their front seven to make AA after ranking 87th in the division against the run is a bit much. Just because your team wins the NC doesn't automatically make everyone on the squad an All-American. Unless your name is Coulson, of course.

I understand your point, but I went back and looked at the players one by one, but couldn't really decide which one if any I'd take off the list. They might not have been the best defensive team, but it is hard to argue the individual performances by these guys. BTW only 5 of them actually made the three All-America teams, I think all 5 of these guys could start anywhere is the country.

Remember the name DJ Smith - LB though, he will be a staple on the AA lists. He's the best LB I've seen at ASU since Dexter Coakley.

[smallcollegefbfan]

I understand your point, but I went back and looked at the players one by one, but couldn't really decide which one if any I'd take off the list. They might not have been the best defensive team, but it is hard to argue the individual performances by these guys. BTW only 5 of them actually made the three All-America teams, I think all 5 of these guys could start anywhere is the country.

Remember the name DJ Smith - LB though, he will be a staple on the AA lists. He's the best LB I've seen at ASU since Dexter Coakley.

Smith and EJ Webb of GSU both are going to be forces in the SoCon and FCS for the next 3 years. They are TWO OUSTANDING talents. I would give the edge to Smith because of the season he put up over the last 6 games. Smith was arguably one of the top 10 LBs in the nation by the end of the year. He will be a draft pick for sure. If he can get down to the 4.4 40 range, he should be better than Coakley. Yes, I said better.