20 players for FSU suspended

[ERASU2113]

for the Holiday Bowl and first three games of next season for an alleged cheating scandal.

I remember the NCAA looking into it awhile back but 20 players??? xeekx xeekx

Link to story:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3159534

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

How has FSU escaped serious NCAA sanctions? They are easily the most corrupt 1-A school, atleast publicly. They get in trouble atleast once a year anymore. I can't believe the alumni has put up with this. Cheating in college for the average Joe mean the boot which is worse than what the players are facing. When Bobby was winning Free Shoe U. and Warrick's shopping spree weren't that big of a deal. Now that they're 7-5 someone needs to right the ****. Joe Pa has also trouble keeping his teams under wraps.

[813Jag]

for the Holiday Bowl and first three games of next season for an alleged cheating scandal.

I remember the NCAA looking into it awhile back but 20 players??? xeekx xeekx

Link to story:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3159534
Not to be a nitpicker but it's the Music City Bowl.


How has FSU escaped serious NCAA sanctions? They are easily the most corrupt 1-A school, atleast publicly. They get in trouble atleast once a year anymore. I can't believe the alumni has put up with this. Cheating in college for the average Joe mean the boot which is worse than what the players are facing. When Bobby was winning Free Shoe U. and Warrick's shopping spree weren't that big of a deal. Now that they're 7-5 someone needs to right the ****. Joe Pa has also trouble keeping his teams under wraps.
Everybody's been waiting for the other shoe to drop. I never expected 20 players, though.
The Noles have had their share of trouble but I don't you must not have heard of a little school in Coral Gables, they have their share of trouble.
There are changes being made at FSU, and believe me this is a problem for alot of schools not just FSU.

[Peems]

I really had hoped that Bowden could keep FSU prominent, same with Shannan at Miami(time will tell with him) but it just seems to me that both programs are slowly sinking.

[813Jag]

I really had hoped that Bowden could keep FSU prominent, same with Shannan at Miami(time will tell with him) but it just seems to me that both programs are slowly sinking.
It's alot of reasons why both programs are declining. #1 is the inability to keep top players in state. Shannon is slowly fixing that by recruiting the city of Miami hard. Hopefully the decision to name Jimbo Fisher as a successor to Bobby will help usher out an era and enter a new one in. We'll know for sure it 3 (long) years.

[AZGrizFan]

Note to self: change my Motor City Bowl pool pick from FSU to whoever they're playing.... xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx

[SuperJon]

Cheating in college for the average Joe mean the boot which is worse than what the players are facing.

Here's the thing though, I would be willing to bet that 50-75% of college students do the exact same thing on exams like this. I go to a Christian school and it happens all of the time. In my New Testament class, there were 300ish people in the class. The professor put the tests online. I knew people who rarely, if ever, came to class and they were making high A's on the tests and I was making C's and I went to every class. I asked what they were doing, and they were taking the tests with friends either through AIM, sitting next to each other on different laptops, etc. That's at a Christian school in a class about the Bible. Professors say that the tests are closed book and to be taken alone, but most college students think that if the professor is going to be lazy and put the test on line, then they're going to be lazy and work on the test with friends. I'm not saying it's right, please don't take it as that, but to act like this is something that only happens with football players at FSU is ignorant at the least.

[ysubigred]

Note to self: change my Motor City Bowl pool pick from FSU to whoever they're playing.... xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx

Even with their 20 thugs Kentucky was going to beat their Arse!! xthumbsupx

[813Jag]

Even with their 20 thugs Kentucky was going to beat their Arse!! xthumbsupx
I think people throw that word around too easily. You don't know anybody that cheated in school? xconfusedx

[ysubigred]

I think people throw that word around too easily. You don't know anybody that cheated in school? xconfusedx

Nope xrolleyesx

Just razzing Griz for taking FSU in the first place xpeacex

[813Jag]

Nope xrolleyesx

Just razzing Griz for taking FSU in the first place xpeacex
No problems from this end. The way the Noles have been playing the last 5 years they deserve alot of razzing. I just hate that word thug being thrown around. xpeacex

[813Jag]

Update: 11 of the suspended players have starting expirence. But it is confirmed that none of the major contributors on offense will be missing the game. Defense looks to be hit the hardest.

[jstate83]

Free Shoe's University is at it again.

Sincerely,
THE OLE BALL COACH
xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

[spelunker64]

Note to self: change my Motor City Bowl pool pick from FSU to whoever they're playing.... xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx

Good call

And it's Kentucky by the way

[brownbear]

Note to self: change my Motor City Bowl pool pick from FSU to whoever they're playing.... xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx

Thanks, I actually picked Florida State on my picks sheet for some reason.

[Marcus Garvey]

Sincerely,
THE OLE BALL COACH
xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

This is proof that Bowden is really getting too old to coach anymore. Back in the day, this never would have happened. By that I mean the scandal would have never become public of course! ;)

[813Jag]

This is proof that Bowden is really getting too old to coach anymore. Back in the day, this never would have happened. By that I mean the scandal would have never become public of course! ;)
Hopefully with the new AD and the endoresment of Fisher as Coach in three years (hopefully), change is underway. I just hope they don't have to hit rock bottom before they come back up.

[mrklean]

I think people throw that word around too easily. You don't know anybody that cheated in school? xconfusedx

You know THUG is the new n-word. People can use it without getting their azz kicked!!!!!

[LacesOut]

How in the world are they going to field a team???? That's alot of players. Some major depth issues.

[HighRyder08]

F.S.U. will be alright. Since Bobby doesnt like to play freshman that much, this could be a great chance for those players to see some PT that haven't played much yet

[ysubigred]

You know THUG is the new n-word. People can use it without getting their azz kicked!!!!!

Yep. Only "IF" you think everybody is racist. I have no clue who the 24 players are but I'm sure some are white.

I'm as white as a snow fall and was called a thug for standing up to some dumb azz cutting in line at Circut City last Saturday. xcoffeex

Thug works for all races.

thug /θʌg/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[thuhg] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation,
–noun 1. a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer.
2. (sometimes initial capital letter) one of a former group of professional robbers and murderers in India who strangled their victims.


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[Origin: 1800–10; < Hindi thag lit., rogue, cheat]

—Related forms
thug&#183;ger&#183;y /ˈθʌgəri/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[thuhg-uh-ree] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation, noun
thuggish, adjective
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, &#169; Random House, Inc. 2006.
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This thug (thŭg) Pronunciation Key
n.
A cutthroat or ruffian; a hoodlum.
also Thug One of a band of professional assassins formerly active in northern India who worshiped Kali and offered their victims to her.


[Hindi ṭhag, perhaps from Sanskrit sthagaḥ, a cheat, from sthagati, sthagayati, he conceals; see (s)teg- in Indo-European roots.]

thug'ger&#183;y n., thug'gish adj.

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thug

1810, "member of a gang of murderers and robbers in India who strangled their victims," from Marathi thag, thak "cheat, swindler," Hindi thag, perhaps from Skt. sthaga-s "cunning, fraudulent," possibly from sthagayati "(he) covers, conceals," from PIE base *(s)teg- "cover" (see stegosaurus). Transferred sense of "ruffian, cutthroat" first recorded 1839. The more correct Indian name is phanseegur, and the activity was described in Eng. as far back as c.1665. Rigorously prosecuted by the British from 1831, they were driven from existence, but the process extended over the rest of the 19c.

[813Jag]

How in the world are they going to field a team???? That's alot of players. Some major depth issues.
The report stated that 11 have starting experience (but since they won't name names there's no way of telling how many games they've started) 7 are walk-ons, 4 weren't on the two deep depth chart, and 1 was a second teamer, 2 others were already inelgible.

[Cobblestone]

I really had hoped that Bowden could keep FSU prominent, same with Shannan at Miami(time will tell with him) but it just seems to me that both programs are slowly sinking.

And South Florida is on the rise. People laughed a few years ago when I stated that USF would become a rising star program in the state of Florida and eventually surpass Miami and FSU. It looks like that star has risen.

[813Jag]

F.S.U. will be alright. Since Bobby doesnt like to play freshman that much, this could be a great chance for those players to see some PT that haven't played much yet
Most of the O-Line was young this year, there weren't many seniors starting. On the two deep depth chart as of 11/15 there were 5 seniors on offense (3 starters), 5 senoirs on defense (1 starter), and 3 seniors on special teams (all starters). Bobby has been playing young kids for the past few years, not by choice.

[813Jag]

And South Florida is on the rise. People laughed a few years ago when I stated that USF would become a rising star program in the state of Florida and eventually surpass Miami and FSU. It looks like that star has risen.
They are on the rise, but they have to prove that they can consistently recruit with those teams. Right now USF doesn't have a foothold on Tampa and the Bay Area. Kids are still going to FSU and Miami, but now more and more of the top kids are leaving the state. Greg Schiano recruits Florida hard. N.C. State had a pipeline from Chamberlin High (Tampa) kids in town haven't came around to USF. The top QB in town will probably early commit to UF.

[wkuhillhound]

This needs to be updated. A total of 36 FSU players will not be going to Nashville because of injury or cheating scandals. FSU will really be down to bare minimums.

[james_lawfirm]

Here's the thing though, I would be willing to bet that 50-75% of college students do the exact same thing on exams like this. I go to a Christian school and it happens all of the time. In my New Testament class, there were 300ish people in the class. The professor put the tests online. I knew people who rarely, if ever, came to class and they were making high A's on the tests and I was making C's and I went to every class. I asked what they were doing, and they were taking the tests with friends either through AIM, sitting next to each other on different laptops, etc. That's at a Christian school in a class about the Bible. Professors say that the tests are closed book and to be taken alone, but most college students think that if the professor is going to be lazy and put the test on line, then they're going to be lazy and work on the test with friends. I'm not saying it's right, please don't take it as that, but to act like this is something that only happens with football players at FSU is ignorant at the least.

I understand your point, but I don't think anyone said that only FSU football players cheat. I don't like any naive professor allowing this stuff to go on either. Cheating is wrong, period. The ramifications for FSU football players who receive four years free learnin', plus room & board, and who cheat should be severe. Like, how about repaying all that free tuition? Kick them off the team, too.

[james_lawfirm]

Yep. Only "IF" you think everybody is racist. I have no clue who the 24 players are but I'm sure some are white.

I'm as white as a snow fall and was called a thug for standing up to some dumb azz cutting in line at Circut City last Saturday. xcoffeex

Thug works for all races.

thug /θʌg/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[thuhg] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation,
–noun 1. a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer.
2. (sometimes initial capital letter) one of a former group of professional robbers and murderers in India who strangled their victims.


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[Origin: 1800–10; < Hindi thag lit., rogue, cheat]

—Related forms
thug·ger·y /ˈθʌgəri/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[thuhg-uh-ree] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation, noun
thuggish, adjective
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.
American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This thug (thŭg) Pronunciation Key
n.
A cutthroat or ruffian; a hoodlum.
also Thug One of a band of professional assassins formerly active in northern India who worshiped Kali and offered their victims to her.


[Hindi ṭhag, perhaps from Sanskrit sthagaḥ, a cheat, from sthagati, sthagayati, he conceals; see (s)teg- in Indo-European roots.]

thug'ger·y n., thug'gish adj.

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Copyright © 2006 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
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thug

1810, "member of a gang of murderers and robbers in India who strangled their victims," from Marathi thag, thak "cheat, swindler," Hindi thag, perhaps from Skt. sthaga-s "cunning, fraudulent," possibly from sthagayati "(he) covers, conceals," from PIE base *(s)teg- "cover" (see stegosaurus). Transferred sense of "ruffian, cutthroat" first recorded 1839. The more correct Indian name is phanseegur, and the activity was described in Eng. as far back as c.1665. Rigorously prosecuted by the British from 1831, they were driven from existence, but the process extended over the rest of the 19c.


Dude, you make a great point. And far be it from me to stifle conversation, but this is way too much information. It must not be football season. How long till the next kickoff? > 9 months!! BUMMER!

[813Jag]

I understand your point, but I don't think anyone said that only FSU football players cheat. I don't like any naive professor allowing this stuff to go on either. Cheating is wrong, period. The ramifications for FSU football players who receive four years free learnin', plus room & board, and who cheat should be severe. Like, how about repaying all that free tuition? Kick them off the team, too.
This particular situation goes beyond athletics and it really puts the entire university in a bad light.

[furpal87]

On the bright side they maybe the first team ever to make a profit in that game!!!xlolx xrolleyesx xthumbsupx

[ysubigred]

Dude, you make a great point. And far be it from me to stifle conversation, but this is way too much information. It must not be football season. How long till the next kickoff? > 9 months!! BUMMER!

LOL!! I know :o

[Go...gate]

Anybody know if Myron Rolle of FSU was suspended?

[813Jag]

Anybody know if Myron Rolle of FSU was suspended?
No he's not suspended. He'll be playing in the game on Monday. Now that's a student athlete in every sense of the word.

[Go...gate]

No he's not suspended. He'll be playing in the game on Monday. Now that's a student athlete in every sense of the word.

I'm glad to hear this. He was a great kid at The Hun School.

[Peems]

Is he related to Samari?

[813Jag]

Is he related to Samari?
I don't believe he is directly related.

[dbackjon]

Is he related to Samari?

Nope