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Sitting Bull
November 21st, 2023, 09:04 AM
CAA totals by avg and top crowds
Avg all games/trend vs 2022
Delaware 15,564. (8%)
W&M. 10,268. +3%
UNH. 8,716. (19%)
Elon. 8,008. +9%
Hampton 7,442. +152%
Stony Brook. 6,447. +25%
Richmond. 6,165. (15%)
NC A&T. 5,920. (Missing 3 games)
UAlbany. 5,558. +6%
Maine. 5,138. (7%)
Villanova. 4,676. (34%)
Campbell. 4,164. (7%)
URI. 4,045. (12%)
Towson. 3,783. (32%)
Monmouth. 2,842. +13%
Top Crowds (11,000+)
NC A&T. (vs Towson). 21,500
Delaware. (vs Duquesne). 18,952
Delaware (vs Villanova). 17,718
Delaware (vs Elon). 16,722
Delaware (vs St Francis). 16,332
Hampton (vs NC A&T). 13,811
W&M (vs Towson). 13,713
UNH (vs Towson). 13,544
Delaware (vs NC A&T). 13,041
Elon (vs W&M). 12,705
W&M (vs Monmouth). 11,340
Elon (vs NC A&T) 11,257
Stony Brook (vs Delaware). 11,132
bonarae
November 21st, 2023, 06:53 PM
Not sure where the source is, but only the Bozeman Cats and the Griz sold out their stadiums consistently for their home games this season.
Jackson State still leads the FCS in total attendance despite only filling 82%+ of their stadium, even with Prime gone to the FBS. Tarleton carries into the FCS their top-10 attendance ranking, checking in at #4 or #5.
Grizzlies82
November 21st, 2023, 06:55 PM
BIG SKY CONFERENCE
2023 Season Total: Average Attendances & # of Home Games Played
Univ. of Montana...... 26,269 ave. 6 home games
Montana State...... 21,260 ave. 6 home games
Sacramento State...... 13,348 ave. 5 home games
Univ. of Idaho..... 11,694 ave. 4 home games
Cal Davis..... 10,561 ave. 5 home games
Weber State..... 8,155 ave. 5 home games
Idaho State..... 7,502 ave. 5 home games
Cal Poly..... 7,375 ave. 6 home games
Northern Arizona..... 7,235 ave. 5 home games
Eastern Washington..... 5,677 ave. 5 home games
Northern Colorado..... 3,648 ave. 5 home games
Portland St Univ...... 2,604 ave. 5 home games
bonarae
November 21st, 2023, 07:00 PM
Source: https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2023-attendance-leaders-bzbz/
Ivy League (First column: FCS ranking, third column: attendance average, last column: percentage of stadium filled)
18 Yale
11,581
18
19 Harvard
11,555
38.1
63 Princeton
5,882
19.6
73 Cornell
5,509
25.6
74 Penn
5,474
10.3
89 Columbia
4,366
25.6
100 Brown
3,765
18.8
106 Dartmouth
3,153
28.6
Figured that Dartmouth is dead last in attendance, even below perennial playoff conference cellar-dwellers.... xsmhx
FUBeAR
November 21st, 2023, 11:38 PM
Source: https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2023-attendance-leaders-bzbz/
Ivy League
Figured that Dartmouth is dead last in attendance, even below perennial playoff conference cellar-dwellers.... xsmhx
FCS
Rank
Team
Avg
Attendance
% Capacity
18
Yale
11,581
18.0
19
Harvard
11,555
38.1
63
Princeton
5,882
19.6
73
Cornell
5,509
25.6
74
Penn
5,474
10.3
89
Columbia
4,366
25.6
100
Brown
3,765
18.8
106
Dartmouth
3,153
28.6
DFW HOYA
November 22nd, 2023, 12:43 AM
Patriot League:
1. Holy Cross 10,429 (down 12.4%, much of it from the Polar Park game)
2. Lehigh 5,851 (up 50.5%, rivalry game at home vs. Lafayette)
3. Lafayette 3,795 (down 31.9%, rivalry game at Lehigh)
4. Fordham 2,902 (up 8.6%)
5. Georgetown 2,732 (up 63.8%, a good number after post-COVID slump)
6. Colgate 2,517 (down 21.5%)
7. Bucknell 1,281 (down 3.2%, trending down for years)
FUBeAR
November 22nd, 2023, 01:30 AM
We had a little discussion about this on the FU Board when one of our good SoCon friends came over to disparage the 'support' that Furman Fans had provided for their Team at the Wofford game in terms of attendance.
So, FUBeAR started thinking....
Sure, there are 9 million variables that go into attendance, but one thing that would be interesting and, perhaps, enlightening is to assess the level of 'home attendance support' students and alumni, theoretically, provide. In other words...let's look at Attendance as a function of Enrollment...again...9 million other variables drive attendance (we all KNOW that), but one would have to acknowledge that it's at least intuitive that the more students, more alumni, more living alumni that a school has (all 9 million other things being equal-ish), that they at least have a higher 'opportunity' for higher attendance.
So...anyway ... in a very LONG chart below, FUBeAR is showing Attendance/Enrollment ratios - he called that number a "Support Ratio" and has ranked them by school AND by Conference (shown below the list of schools - average rank and average 'support ratio' for each conference).
Oh yeah - FUBeAR used College Navigator's "Student Population" for the enrollment numbers. Unless FUBeAR botched up copying/pasting...if you don't like the enrollment number for your school, take it up with the good people at that site.
Interested in y'all's thoughts or feel free to ignore....it's a lotta numbers!
Attendance
Rank
Overall
FCS
'Support
Ratio'
Rank
Within
Conference
'Support
Ratio'
Rank
Team
Conference
Avg
Attendance
% Capacity
Enrollment
Support
Ratio
8
1
1
Alabama St.
SWAC
17,385
65.60%
3,828
4.5415
1
2
2
Jackson St.
SWAC
30,060
75.10%
6,906
4.3527
23
3
1
Furman
SoCon
10,467
65.40%
2,443
4.2845
14
4
3
Alcorn
SWAC
12,018
53.40%
2,933
4.0975
21
5
1
SC St.
MEAC
10,661
48.40%
2,649
4.0245
45
6
4
UAPB
SWAC
7,761
53.50%
2,387
3.2514
84
7
2
VMI
SoCon
4,854
48.50%
1,512
3.2103
66
8
5
MVSU
SWAC
5,692
54.20%
1,879
3.0293
20
9
3
The Citadel
SoCon
11,005
95.70%
3,721
2.9575
9
10
2
Norfolk St.
MEAC
15,656
52.10%
5,783
2.7072
36
11
1
Holy Cross
Patriot
8,344
35.50%
3,083
2.7065
2
12
1
Montana
Big Sky
26,269
104.10%
9,995
2.6282
58
13
6
Bethune-Cookman
SWAC
6,398
66.60%
2,727
2.3462
47
14
1
Hampton
CAA
7,431
61.90%
3,286
2.2614
93
15
4
Wofford
SoCon
4,019
30.90%
1,823
2.2046
91
16
1
Davidson
Pioneer
4,166
92.50%
1,927
2.1619
13
17
7
Alabama A&M
SWAC
12,934
61.59%
6,007
2.1532
7
18
8
Southern
SWAC
17,465
61.20%
8,226
2.1231
6
19
9
FAMU
SWAC
17,616
89.70%
9,215
1.9117
5
20
1
SDSU
MVFC
18,208
94.10%
11,327
1.6075
61
21
2
Richmond
CAA
6,165
70.80%
3,876
1.5906
86
22
1
Gardner-Webb
Big South/OVC
4,827
56.70%
3,144
1.5353
34
23
1
McNeese
Southland
8,840
49.60%
6,230
1.4189
53
24
1
Abilene Christian
UAC
7,090
78.70%
5,079
1.3959
98
25
2
Lafayette
Patriot
3,795
28.90%
2,729
1.3906
4
26
2
Tarleton St.
UAC
18,697
77.90%
14,092
1.3268
3
27
2
Montana St.
Big Sky
21,610
121.50%
16,681
1.2955
11
28
2
NDSU
MVFC
15,121
80.80%
12,242
1.2352
60
29
10
Grambling
SWAC
6,170
31.40%
5,058
1.2198
33
30
3
NC Central
MEAC
9,055
90.50%
7,553
1.1989
42
31
3
Elon
CAA
8,008
71.10%
7,123
1.1242
27
32
5
Mercer
SoCon
9,741
95.50%
8,889
1.0958
101
33
2
CSU
Big South/OVC
3,684
92.10%
3,418
1.0778
25
34
4
W&M
CAA
10,268
88.10%
9,654
1.0636
31
35
3
UNI
MVFC
9,379
57.40%
8,945
1.0485
127
36
2
Presbyterian
Pioneer
1,254
19.30%
1,199
1.0459
15
37
6
WCU
SoCon
11,935
86.50%
11,635
1.0258
16
38
3
Idaho
Big Sky
11,737
73.30%
11,507
1.0200
28
39
4
Murray St.
MVFC
9,645
60.20%
9,479
1.0175
70
40
7
Samford
SoCon
5,618
83.80%
5,682
0.9887
30
41
3
North Ala.
UAC
9,494
66.70%
9,830
0.9658
71
42
2
Nicholls
Southland
5,614
53.40%
5,883
0.9543
108
43
3
Colgate
Patriot
2,878
28.10%
3,141
0.9163
26
44
5
YSU
MVFC
10,065
48.70%
11,071
0.9091
37
45
4
Austin Peay
UAC
8,309
83.10%
9,326
0.8910
48
46
11
Texas Southern
SWAC
7,422
33.70%
8,632
0.8598
82
47
4
Delaware St.
MEAC
5,009
71.50%
5,826
0.8598
88
48
1
Merrimack
NEC
4,505
128.70%
5,505
0.8183
17
49
5
EKU
UAC
11,655
58.20%
14,324
0.8137
41
50
3
Tennessee Tech
Big South/OVC
8,021
48.60%
9,902
0.8100
90
51
5
Campbell
CAA
4,214
76.60%
5272
0.7993
55
52
3
Morehead St.
Pioneer
6,980
69.80%
8,807
0.7926
64
53
4
Lehigh
Patriot
5,851
36.50%
7,394
0.7913
18
54
1
Yale
Ivy
11,581
18.00%
14,776
0.7838
24
55
6
UND
MVFC
10,288
83.70%
13,876
0.7414
38
56
8
Chattanooga
SoCon
8,177
39.50%
11,283
0.7247
40
57
6
SFA
UAC
8,100
55.50%
11,327
0.7151
54
58
7
Central Ark.
UAC
7,048
70.40%
9,913
0.7110
29
59
6
NC A&T
CAA
9,582
44.50%
13,487
0.7105
118
60
2
Stonehill
NEC
1,806
75.20%
2,543
0.7102
85
61
4
UT Martin
Big South/OVC
4,831
64.40%
6,868
0.7034
56
62
7
South Dakota
MVFC
6,890
75.70%
9,856
0.6991
46
63
8
SIU
MVFC
7,544
50.20%
11,107
0.6792
62
64
12
Prairie View
SWAC
6,062
40.40%
9,056
0.6694
63
65
2
Princeton
Ivy
5,882
19.60%
8,842
0.6652
115
66
5
Robert Morris
Big South/OVC
2,242
74.70%
3,431
0.6535
103
67
4
Butler
Pioneer
3,595
63.60%
5,525
0.6507
10
68
7
Delaware
CAA
15,564
86.10%
24,039
0.6474
68
69
6
EIU
Big South/OVC
5,672
56.70%
8,857
0.6404
35
70
8
UNH
CAA
8,716
79.10%
13,953
0.6247
120
71
5
Valparaiso
Pioneer
1,778
35.50%
2,958
0.6011
43
72
9
ETSU
SoCon
7,990
103.80%
13,483
0.5926
59
73
3
Sacred Heart
NEC
6,346
158.60%
10,721
0.5919
51
74
4
Idaho St.
Big Sky
7,226
60.20%
12,301
0.5874
77
75
7
Tennessee St.
Big South/OVC
5,400
8.00%
9,218
0.5858
65
76
8
SEMO
Big South/OVC
5,732
57.30%
9,927
0.5774
122
77
4
Saint Francis
NEC
1,646
47.00%
2,857
0.5761
109
78
9
Monmouth
CAA
2,842
67.60%
5,027
0.5653
81
79
5
Morgan St.
MEAC
5,075
50.70%
9,101
0.5576
113
80
6
Drake
Pioneer
2,481
17.04%
4,685
0.5296
83
81
3
Northwestern St.
Southland
4,915
30.70%
9,389
0.5235
67
82
5
EWU
Big Sky
5,678
66.10%
10,910
0.5204
121
83
9
Bryant
Big South/OVC
1,725
39.20%
3,536
0.4878
76
84
4
Tex. A&M-Commerce
Southland
5,420
54.20%
11,306
0.4794
92
85
9
Indiana St.
MVFC
4,088
32.10%
8,658
0.4722
105
86
10
Lindenwood
Big South/OVC
3,280
54.60%
7,000
0.4686
106
87
3
Dartmouth
Ivy
3,153
28.60%
6,744
0.4675
87
88
10
Villanova
CAA
4,676
38.90%
10,383
0.4504
128
89
5
Wagner
NEC
872
26.40%
1,949
0.4474
97
90
7
St. Thomas
Pioneer
3,868
76.90%
9,025
0.4286
119
91
5
HCU
Southland
1,797
35.90%
4,257
0.4221
75
92
6
Howard
MEAC
5,433
76.60%
12,886
0.4216
78
93
11
Maine
CAA
5,138
51.30%
12,231
0.4201
12
94
6
Sac St.
Big Sky
13,348
62.90%
31,818
0.4195
80
95
8
Utah Tech
UAC
5,132
51.30%
12,556
0.4087
32
96
10
Missouri St.
MVFC
9,143
52.20%
22,535
0.4057
102
97
7
N. Col.
Big Sky
3,648
42.90%
9,380
0.3889
107
98
11
WIU
MVFC
2,915
17.80%
7,643
0.3814
104
99
6
CCSU
NEC
3,574
64.90%
9,468
0.3775
19
100
4
Harvard
Ivy
11,555
38.10%
30,631
0.3772
124
101
8
Stetson
Pioneer
1,442
24.00%
3,928
0.3671
52
102
12
Illinois St.
MVFC
7,194
53.70%
20,683
0.3478
95
103
9
Dayton
Pioneer
3,964
36.10%
11,674
0.3396
125
104
5
Bucknell
Patriot
1,281
9.70%
3,787
0.3383
100
105
5
Brown
Ivy
3,765
18.80%
11,189
0.3365
49
106
8
Cal Poly
Big Sky
7,392
66.70%
22,000
0.3360
69
107
6
Lamar
Southland
5,643
35.20%
16,803
0.3358
72
108
12
UAlbany
CAA
5,558
65.30%
16,658
0.3337
114
109
7
UIW
Southland
2,386
39.70%
7,305
0.3266
116
110
10
Marist
Pioneer
2,096
41.90%
6,464
0.3243
79
111
13
Rhode Island
CAA
5,135
99.30%
17,473
0.2939
96
112
8
SLU
Southland
3,944
53.30%
13,465
0.2929
94
113
9
SUU
UAC
4,011
47.10%
14,330
0.2799
39
114
9
Weber St.
Big Sky
8,155
49.80%
29,914
0.2726
22
115
10
UC Davis
Big Sky
10,562
97.30%
39,679
0.2662
50
116
11
Northern Ariz.
Big Sky
7,235
72.30%
28,086
0.2576
57
117
14
Stony Brook
CAA
6,477
52.60%
25,710
0.2519
117
118
7
Duquesne
NEC
1,822
82.80%
8,107
0.2247
73
119
6
Cornell
Ivy
5,509
25.60%
25,898
0.2127
74
120
7
Penn
Ivy
5,474
10.30%
28,201
0.1941
99
121
15
Towson
CAA
3,783
33.70%
19,793
0.1911
44
122
1
Kennesaw
IND
7,857
94.60%
43,190
0.1819
112
123
6
Fordham
Patriot
2,548
36.40%
16,556
0.1539
126
124
11
San Diego
Pioneer
1,278
22.10%
8,815
0.1450
110
125
7
Georgetown
Patriot
2,734
109.30%
20,984
0.1303
89
126
8
Columbia
Ivy
4,366
25.60%
34,782
0.1255
111
127
12
Portland St.
Big Sky
2,636
36.60%
21,609
0.1220
123
128
8
LIU
NEC
1,565
22.30%
15,737
0.0994
65
65
128
128
128
7,159
58.08%
10,888
0.9889
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FCS
'Support
Ratio'
Avg
Rank
Rank
Conference
Rank
Support
Ratio
Avg
19
1
SWAC
1
2.5463
30
2
SoCon
2
1.8983
44
3
MEAC
3
1.6283
56
4
UAC
5
0.8342
60
5
MVFC
6
0.7954
61
6
Big South/OVC
7
0.7540
69
7
Patriot
4
0.9182
71
8
CAA
8
0.7552
77
9
Pioneer
10
0.6715
80
10
Southland
11
0.5942
83
11
Big Sky
9
0.6762
86
12
NEC
12
0.4807
96
13
Ivy
13
0.3953
121
14
Independent
14
0.1819
DFW HOYA
November 22nd, 2023, 09:37 AM
Two thoughts, and yes, the enrollment numbers are inflated:
1. The top 10 are mostly rural schools, nine of the bottom 10 are in cities.
2. The larger bias is in proximity: 57 percent of Alabama State students come from Alabama and likely most its alumni. Three percent of Georgetown students come from DC and while roughly 20 percent of alumni are within an hour of the campus, it's not easily accessible and not a Saturday destination. How many Cornell alumni are driving 4-6 hours from NYC to watch a game?
The Cats
November 22nd, 2023, 02:57 PM
What a load of malarkey. Leave it to fubear to figure out a way to show FU in the top three in the entire FCS, it took a lot of twisting and turns to make it work out, but leave it to fubear, he'll get it done....
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We had a little discussion about this on the FU Board when one of our good SoCon friends came over to disparage the 'support' that Furman Fans had provided for their Team at the Wofford game in terms of attendance.
So, FUBeAR started thinking....
Sure, there are 9 million variables that go into attendance, but one thing that would be interesting and, perhaps, enlightening is to assess the level of 'home attendance support' students and alumni, theoretically, provide. In other words...let's look at Attendance as a function of Enrollment...again...9 million other variables drive attendance (we all KNOW that), but one would have to acknowledge that it's at least intuitive that the more students, more alumni, more living alumni that a school has (all 9 million other things being equal-ish), that they at least have a higher 'opportunity' for higher attendance.
So...anyway ... in a very LONG chart below, FUBeAR is showing Attendance/Enrollment ratios - he called that number a "Support Ratio" and has ranked them by school AND by Conference (shown below the list of schools - average rank and average 'support ratio' for each conference).
Oh yeah - FUBeAR used College Navigator's "Student Population" for the enrollment numbers. Unless FUBeAR botched up copying/pasting...if you don't like the enrollment number for your school, take it up with the good people at that site.
Interested in y'all's thoughts or feel free to ignore....it's a lotta numbers!
Attendance
Rank
Overall
FCS
'Support
Ratio'
Rank
Within
Conference
'Support
Ratio'
Rank
Team
Conference
Avg
Attendance
% Capacity
Enrollment
Support
Ratio
8
1
1
Alabama St.
SWAC
17,385
65.60%
3,828
4.5415
1
2
2
Jackson St.
SWAC
30,060
75.10%
6,906
4.3527
23
3
1
Furman
SoCon
10,467
65.40%
2,443
4.2845
14
4
3
Alcorn
SWAC
12,018
53.40%
2,933
4.0975
21
5
1
SC St.
MEAC
10,661
48.40%
2,649
4.0245
45
6
4
UAPB
SWAC
7,761
53.50%
2,387
3.2514
84
7
2
VMI
SoCon
4,854
48.50%
1,512
3.2103
66
8
5
MVSU
SWAC
5,692
54.20%
1,879
3.0293
20
9
3
The Citadel
SoCon
11,005
95.70%
3,721
2.9575
9
10
2
Norfolk St.
MEAC
15,656
52.10%
5,783
2.7072
36
11
1
Holy Cross
Patriot
8,344
35.50%
3,083
2.7065
2
12
1
Montana
Big Sky
26,269
104.10%
9,995
2.6282
58
13
6
Bethune-Cookman
SWAC
6,398
66.60%
2,727
2.3462
47
14
1
Hampton
CAA
7,431
61.90%
3,286
2.2614
93
15
4
Wofford
SoCon
4,019
30.90%
1,823
2.2046
91
16
1
Davidson
Pioneer
4,166
92.50%
1,927
2.1619
13
17
7
Alabama A&M
SWAC
12,934
61.59%
6,007
2.1532
7
18
8
Southern
SWAC
17,465
61.20%
8,226
2.1231
6
19
9
FAMU
SWAC
17,616
89.70%
9,215
1.9117
5
20
1
SDSU
MVFC
18,208
94.10%
11,327
1.6075
61
21
2
Richmond
CAA
6,165
70.80%
3,876
1.5906
86
22
1
Gardner-Webb
Big South/OVC
4,827
56.70%
3,144
1.5353
34
23
1
McNeese
Southland
8,840
49.60%
6,230
1.4189
53
24
1
Abilene Christian
UAC
7,090
78.70%
5,079
1.3959
98
25
2
Lafayette
Patriot
3,795
28.90%
2,729
1.3906
4
26
2
Tarleton St.
UAC
18,697
77.90%
14,092
1.3268
3
27
2
Montana St.
Big Sky
21,610
121.50%
16,681
1.2955
11
28
2
NDSU
MVFC
15,121
80.80%
12,242
1.2352
60
29
10
Grambling
SWAC
6,170
31.40%
5,058
1.2198
33
30
3
NC Central
MEAC
9,055
90.50%
7,553
1.1989
42
31
3
Elon
CAA
8,008
71.10%
7,123
1.1242
27
32
5
Mercer
SoCon
9,741
95.50%
8,889
1.0958
101
33
2
CSU
Big South/OVC
3,684
92.10%
3,418
1.0778
25
34
4
W&M
CAA
10,268
88.10%
9,654
1.0636
31
35
3
UNI
MVFC
9,379
57.40%
8,945
1.0485
127
36
2
Presbyterian
Pioneer
1,254
19.30%
1,199
1.0459
15
37
6
WCU
SoCon
11,935
86.50%
11,635
1.0258
16
38
3
Idaho
Big Sky
11,737
73.30%
11,507
1.0200
28
39
4
Murray St.
MVFC
9,645
60.20%
9,479
1.0175
70
40
7
Samford
SoCon
5,618
83.80%
5,682
0.9887
30
41
3
North Ala.
UAC
9,494
66.70%
9,830
0.9658
71
42
2
Nicholls
Southland
5,614
53.40%
5,883
0.9543
108
43
3
Colgate
Patriot
2,878
28.10%
3,141
0.9163
26
44
5
YSU
MVFC
10,065
48.70%
11,071
0.9091
37
45
4
Austin Peay
UAC
8,309
83.10%
9,326
0.8910
48
46
11
Texas Southern
SWAC
7,422
33.70%
8,632
0.8598
82
47
4
Delaware St.
MEAC
5,009
71.50%
5,826
0.8598
88
48
1
Merrimack
NEC
4,505
128.70%
5,505
0.8183
17
49
5
EKU
UAC
11,655
58.20%
14,324
0.8137
41
50
3
Tennessee Tech
Big South/OVC
8,021
48.60%
9,902
0.8100
90
51
5
Campbell
CAA
4,214
76.60%
5272
0.7993
55
52
3
Morehead St.
Pioneer
6,980
69.80%
8,807
0.7926
64
53
4
Lehigh
Patriot
5,851
36.50%
7,394
0.7913
18
54
1
Yale
Ivy
11,581
18.00%
14,776
0.7838
24
55
6
UND
MVFC
10,288
83.70%
13,876
0.7414
38
56
8
Chattanooga
SoCon
8,177
39.50%
11,283
0.7247
40
57
6
SFA
UAC
8,100
55.50%
11,327
0.7151
54
58
7
Central Ark.
UAC
7,048
70.40%
9,913
0.7110
29
59
6
NC A&T
CAA
9,582
44.50%
13,487
0.7105
118
60
2
Stonehill
NEC
1,806
75.20%
2,543
0.7102
85
61
4
UT Martin
Big South/OVC
4,831
64.40%
6,868
0.7034
56
62
7
South Dakota
MVFC
6,890
75.70%
9,856
0.6991
46
63
8
SIU
MVFC
7,544
50.20%
11,107
0.6792
62
64
12
Prairie View
SWAC
6,062
40.40%
9,056
0.6694
63
65
2
Princeton
Ivy
5,882
19.60%
8,842
0.6652
115
66
5
Robert Morris
Big South/OVC
2,242
74.70%
3,431
0.6535
103
67
4
Butler
Pioneer
3,595
63.60%
5,525
0.6507
10
68
7
Delaware
CAA
15,564
86.10%
24,039
0.6474
68
69
6
EIU
Big South/OVC
5,672
56.70%
8,857
0.6404
35
70
8
UNH
CAA
8,716
79.10%
13,953
0.6247
120
71
5
Valparaiso
Pioneer
1,778
35.50%
2,958
0.6011
43
72
9
ETSU
SoCon
7,990
103.80%
13,483
0.5926
59
73
3
Sacred Heart
NEC
6,346
158.60%
10,721
0.5919
51
74
4
Idaho St.
Big Sky
7,226
60.20%
12,301
0.5874
77
75
7
Tennessee St.
Big South/OVC
5,400
8.00%
9,218
0.5858
65
76
8
SEMO
Big South/OVC
5,732
57.30%
9,927
0.5774
122
77
4
Saint Francis
NEC
1,646
47.00%
2,857
0.5761
109
78
9
Monmouth
CAA
2,842
67.60%
5,027
0.5653
81
79
5
Morgan St.
MEAC
5,075
50.70%
9,101
0.5576
113
80
6
Drake
Pioneer
2,481
17.04%
4,685
0.5296
83
81
3
Northwestern St.
Southland
4,915
30.70%
9,389
0.5235
67
82
5
EWU
Big Sky
5,678
66.10%
10,910
0.5204
121
83
9
Bryant
Big South/OVC
1,725
39.20%
3,536
0.4878
76
84
4
Tex. A&M-Commerce
Southland
5,420
54.20%
11,306
0.4794
92
85
9
Indiana St.
MVFC
4,088
32.10%
8,658
0.4722
105
86
10
Lindenwood
Big South/OVC
3,280
54.60%
7,000
0.4686
106
87
3
Dartmouth
Ivy
3,153
28.60%
6,744
0.4675
87
88
10
Villanova
CAA
4,676
38.90%
10,383
0.4504
128
89
5
Wagner
NEC
872
26.40%
1,949
0.4474
97
90
7
St. Thomas
Pioneer
3,868
76.90%
9,025
0.4286
119
91
5
HCU
Southland
1,797
35.90%
4,257
0.4221
75
92
6
Howard
MEAC
5,433
76.60%
12,886
0.4216
78
93
11
Maine
CAA
5,138
51.30%
12,231
0.4201
12
94
6
Sac St.
Big Sky
13,348
62.90%
31,818
0.4195
80
95
8
Utah Tech
UAC
5,132
51.30%
12,556
0.4087
32
96
10
Missouri St.
MVFC
9,143
52.20%
22,535
0.4057
102
97
7
N. Col.
Big Sky
3,648
42.90%
9,380
0.3889
107
98
11
WIU
MVFC
2,915
17.80%
7,643
0.3814
104
99
6
CCSU
NEC
3,574
64.90%
9,468
0.3775
19
100
4
Harvard
Ivy
11,555
38.10%
30,631
0.3772
124
101
8
Stetson
Pioneer
1,442
24.00%
3,928
0.3671
52
102
12
Illinois St.
MVFC
7,194
53.70%
20,683
0.3478
95
103
9
Dayton
Pioneer
3,964
36.10%
11,674
0.3396
125
104
5
Bucknell
Patriot
1,281
9.70%
3,787
0.3383
100
105
5
Brown
Ivy
3,765
18.80%
11,189
0.3365
49
106
8
Cal Poly
Big Sky
7,392
66.70%
22,000
0.3360
69
107
6
Lamar
Southland
5,643
35.20%
16,803
0.3358
72
108
12
UAlbany
CAA
5,558
65.30%
16,658
0.3337
114
109
7
UIW
Southland
2,386
39.70%
7,305
0.3266
116
110
10
Marist
Pioneer
2,096
41.90%
6,464
0.3243
79
111
13
Rhode Island
CAA
5,135
99.30%
17,473
0.2939
96
112
8
SLU
Southland
3,944
53.30%
13,465
0.2929
94
113
9
SUU
UAC
4,011
47.10%
14,330
0.2799
39
114
9
Weber St.
Big Sky
8,155
49.80%
29,914
0.2726
22
115
10
UC Davis
Big Sky
10,562
97.30%
39,679
0.2662
50
116
11
Northern Ariz.
Big Sky
7,235
72.30%
28,086
0.2576
57
117
14
Stony Brook
CAA
6,477
52.60%
25,710
0.2519
117
118
7
Duquesne
NEC
1,822
82.80%
8,107
0.2247
73
119
6
Cornell
Ivy
5,509
25.60%
25,898
0.2127
74
120
7
Penn
Ivy
5,474
10.30%
28,201
0.1941
99
121
15
Towson
CAA
3,783
33.70%
19,793
0.1911
44
122
1
Kennesaw
IND
7,857
94.60%
43,190
0.1819
112
123
6
Fordham
Patriot
2,548
36.40%
16,556
0.1539
126
124
11
San Diego
Pioneer
1,278
22.10%
8,815
0.1450
110
125
7
Georgetown
Patriot
2,734
109.30%
20,984
0.1303
89
126
8
Columbia
Ivy
4,366
25.60%
34,782
0.1255
111
127
12
Portland St.
Big Sky
2,636
36.60%
21,609
0.1220
123
128
8
LIU
NEC
1,565
22.30%
15,737
0.0994
65
65
128
128
128
7,159
58.08%
10,888
0.9889
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FCS
'Support
Ratio'
Avg
Rank
Rank
Conference
Rank
Support
Ratio
Avg
19
1
SWAC
1
2.5463
30
2
SoCon
2
1.8983
44
3
MEAC
3
1.6283
56
4
UAC
5
0.8342
60
5
MVFC
6
0.7954
61
6
Big South/OVC
7
0.7540
69
7
Patriot
4
0.9182
71
8
CAA
8
0.7552
77
9
Pioneer
10
0.6715
80
10
Southland
11
0.5942
83
11
Big Sky
9
0.6762
86
12
NEC
12
0.4807
96
13
Ivy
13
0.3953
121
14
Independent
14
0.1819
SeattleCat
November 22nd, 2023, 03:06 PM
What a load of malarkey. Leave it to fubear to figure out a way to show FU in the top three in the entire FCS, it took a lot of twisting and turns to make it work out, but leave it to fubear, he'll get it done....
33195
Right, Ratio of support??? I guess thats ok for teams that can't fill their stadiums but for the teams that overly sold out every game it means nothing. If Montana & Montana State had 35K capacity stadiums we'd still sell out.
UAalum72
November 22nd, 2023, 03:08 PM
Enrollment figures appear to include graduate students, which is a major portion at some schools and has no effect at others, and who may have been undergrad at other places with no athletic loyalty to the grad school. They probably aren't paying athletics fees and getting game tickets either.
MSUBobcat
November 22nd, 2023, 03:25 PM
BIG SKY CONFERENCE
2023 Season Total: Average Attendances & # of Home Games Played
Univ. of Montana...... 26,269 ave. 6 home games
Montana State...... 21,260 ave. 6 home games
Sacramento State...... 13,348 ave. 5 home games
Univ. of Idaho..... 11,694 ave. 4 home games
Cal Davis..... 10,561 ave. 5 home games
Weber State..... 8,155 ave. 5 home games
Idaho State..... 7,502 ave. 5 home games
Cal Poly..... 7,375 ave. 6 home games
Northern Arizona..... 7,235 ave. 5 home games
Eastern Washington..... 5,677 ave. 5 home games
Northern Colorado..... 3,648 ave. 5 home games
Portland St Univ...... 2,604 ave. 5 home games
Portland State really needs a stadium closer to campus.
MSUBobcat
November 22nd, 2023, 03:43 PM
What a load of malarkey. Leave it to fubear to figure out a way to show FU in the top three in the entire FCS, it took a lot of twisting and turns to make it work out, but leave it to fubear, he'll get it done....
33195
Population of Greenville and Spartanburg counties are nearly the population of the entire state of Montana... Has enrollment declined significantly? Why did they expand the stadium from 13,200 to 16k in 1985? The population of the surrounding area has blown up, yet in a year with a pretty good team, they would have only have only filled the PRE-expansion stadium 80%. Seems like Furman's "ratio of support" is tanking.......
Kabooom
November 23rd, 2023, 01:05 PM
Portland State really needs a stadium closer to campus.
Was awesome back in the day going to a game at PG&E Park. Attendance since then has literally been High schoolish since the boot from downtown.
They need to find a way to get back to that venue.
Too busy for that venues pro soccer schedule?
nodak651
November 23rd, 2023, 08:14 PM
Was awesome back in the day going to a game at PG&E Park. Attendance since then has literally been High schoolish since the boot from downtown.
They need to find a way to get back to that venue.
Too busy for that venues pro soccer schedule?
Maybe they don't want them tearing up the field?
grizband
November 24th, 2023, 01:22 AM
Was awesome back in the day going to a game at PG&E Park. Attendance since then has literally been High schoolish since the boot from downtown.
They need to find a way to get back to that venue.
Too busy for that venues pro soccer schedule?
Maybe they don't want them tearing up the field?
Downtown is obviously more conducive for travel, and attracting any potential casual Vikings fans to the game. However, I believe Portland State originally lost use of Providence (formerly PG&E) Park, because of the soccer schedule. Between September and November, Providence Park held soccer matches on the following Saturdays:
9/09 (Timbers)
9/16 (Thorns)
9/23 (Timbers)
9/30 (Thorns)
10/07 (Thorns)
10/21 (Timbers)
11/05 (Thorns)
That leaves only 5 open Saturdays on the calendar between September and November 2023 (prior to the FCS playoffs), for Portland State to schedule games. Aside from scheduling issues, I assume nodak651 is correct, that Providence doesn't want the chance of their field being torn up by football teams.
MUMD
November 24th, 2023, 09:35 PM
We had a little discussion about this on the FU Board when one of our good SoCon friends came over to disparage the 'support' that Furman Fans had provided for their Team at the Wofford game in terms of attendance.
So, FUBeAR started thinking....
Sure, there are 9 million variables that go into attendance, but one thing that would be interesting and, perhaps, enlightening is to assess the level of 'home attendance support' students and alumni, theoretically, provide. In other words...let's look at Attendance as a function of Enrollment...again...9 million other variables drive attendance (we all KNOW that), but one would have to acknowledge that it's at least intuitive that the more students, more alumni, more living alumni that a school has (all 9 million other things being equal-ish), that they at least have a higher 'opportunity' for higher attendance.
So...anyway ... in a very LONG chart below, FUBeAR is showing Attendance/Enrollment ratios - he called that number a "Support Ratio" and has ranked them by school AND by Conference (shown below the list of schools - average rank and average 'support ratio' for each conference).
Oh yeah - FUBeAR used College Navigator's "Student Population" for the enrollment numbers. Unless FUBeAR botched up copying/pasting...if you don't like the enrollment number for your school, take it up with the good people at that site.
Interested in y'all's thoughts or feel free to ignore....it's a lotta numbers!
Attendance
Rank
Overall
FCS
'Support
Ratio'
Rank
Within
Conference
'Support
Ratio'
Rank
Team
Conference
Avg
Attendance
% Capacity
Enrollment
Support
Ratio
8
1
1
Alabama St.
SWAC
17,385
65.60%
3,828
4.5415
1
2
2
Jackson St.
SWAC
30,060
75.10%
6,906
4.3527
23
3
1
Furman
SoCon
10,467
65.40%
2,443
4.2845
14
4
3
Alcorn
SWAC
12,018
53.40%
2,933
4.0975
21
5
1
SC St.
MEAC
10,661
48.40%
2,649
4.0245
45
6
4
UAPB
SWAC
7,761
53.50%
2,387
3.2514
84
7
2
VMI
SoCon
4,854
48.50%
1,512
3.2103
66
8
5
MVSU
SWAC
5,692
54.20%
1,879
3.0293
20
9
3
The Citadel
SoCon
11,005
95.70%
3,721
2.9575
9
10
2
Norfolk St.
MEAC
15,656
52.10%
5,783
2.7072
36
11
1
Holy Cross
Patriot
8,344
35.50%
3,083
2.7065
2
12
1
Montana
Big Sky
26,269
104.10%
9,995
2.6282
58
13
6
Bethune-Cookman
SWAC
6,398
66.60%
2,727
2.3462
47
14
1
Hampton
CAA
7,431
61.90%
3,286
2.2614
93
15
4
Wofford
SoCon
4,019
30.90%
1,823
2.2046
91
16
1
Davidson
Pioneer
4,166
92.50%
1,927
2.1619
13
17
7
Alabama A&M
SWAC
12,934
61.59%
6,007
2.1532
7
18
8
Southern
SWAC
17,465
61.20%
8,226
2.1231
6
19
9
FAMU
SWAC
17,616
89.70%
9,215
1.9117
5
20
1
SDSU
MVFC
18,208
94.10%
11,327
1.6075
61
21
2
Richmond
CAA
6,165
70.80%
3,876
1.5906
86
22
1
Gardner-Webb
Big South/OVC
4,827
56.70%
3,144
1.5353
34
23
1
McNeese
Southland
8,840
49.60%
6,230
1.4189
53
24
1
Abilene Christian
UAC
7,090
78.70%
5,079
1.3959
98
25
2
Lafayette
Patriot
3,795
28.90%
2,729
1.3906
4
26
2
Tarleton St.
UAC
18,697
77.90%
14,092
1.3268
3
27
2
Montana St.
Big Sky
21,610
121.50%
16,681
1.2955
11
28
2
NDSU
MVFC
15,121
80.80%
12,242
1.2352
60
29
10
Grambling
SWAC
6,170
31.40%
5,058
1.2198
33
30
3
NC Central
MEAC
9,055
90.50%
7,553
1.1989
42
31
3
Elon
CAA
8,008
71.10%
7,123
1.1242
27
32
5
Mercer
SoCon
9,741
95.50%
8,889
1.0958
101
33
2
CSU
Big South/OVC
3,684
92.10%
3,418
1.0778
25
34
4
W&M
CAA
10,268
88.10%
9,654
1.0636
31
35
3
UNI
MVFC
9,379
57.40%
8,945
1.0485
127
36
2
Presbyterian
Pioneer
1,254
19.30%
1,199
1.0459
15
37
6
WCU
SoCon
11,935
86.50%
11,635
1.0258
16
38
3
Idaho
Big Sky
11,737
73.30%
11,507
1.0200
28
39
4
Murray St.
MVFC
9,645
60.20%
9,479
1.0175
70
40
7
Samford
SoCon
5,618
83.80%
5,682
0.9887
30
41
3
North Ala.
UAC
9,494
66.70%
9,830
0.9658
71
42
2
Nicholls
Southland
5,614
53.40%
5,883
0.9543
108
43
3
Colgate
Patriot
2,878
28.10%
3,141
0.9163
26
44
5
YSU
MVFC
10,065
48.70%
11,071
0.9091
37
45
4
Austin Peay
UAC
8,309
83.10%
9,326
0.8910
48
46
11
Texas Southern
SWAC
7,422
33.70%
8,632
0.8598
82
47
4
Delaware St.
MEAC
5,009
71.50%
5,826
0.8598
88
48
1
Merrimack
NEC
4,505
128.70%
5,505
0.8183
17
49
5
EKU
UAC
11,655
58.20%
14,324
0.8137
41
50
3
Tennessee Tech
Big South/OVC
8,021
48.60%
9,902
0.8100
90
51
5
Campbell
CAA
4,214
76.60%
5272
0.7993
55
52
3
Morehead St.
Pioneer
6,980
69.80%
8,807
0.7926
64
53
4
Lehigh
Patriot
5,851
36.50%
7,394
0.7913
18
54
1
Yale
Ivy
11,581
18.00%
14,776
0.7838
24
55
6
UND
MVFC
10,288
83.70%
13,876
0.7414
38
56
8
Chattanooga
SoCon
8,177
39.50%
11,283
0.7247
40
57
6
SFA
UAC
8,100
55.50%
11,327
0.7151
54
58
7
Central Ark.
UAC
7,048
70.40%
9,913
0.7110
29
59
6
NC A&T
CAA
9,582
44.50%
13,487
0.7105
118
60
2
Stonehill
NEC
1,806
75.20%
2,543
0.7102
85
61
4
UT Martin
Big South/OVC
4,831
64.40%
6,868
0.7034
56
62
7
South Dakota
MVFC
6,890
75.70%
9,856
0.6991
46
63
8
SIU
MVFC
7,544
50.20%
11,107
0.6792
62
64
12
Prairie View
SWAC
6,062
40.40%
9,056
0.6694
63
65
2
Princeton
Ivy
5,882
19.60%
8,842
0.6652
115
66
5
Robert Morris
Big South/OVC
2,242
74.70%
3,431
0.6535
103
67
4
Butler
Pioneer
3,595
63.60%
5,525
0.6507
10
68
7
Delaware
CAA
15,564
86.10%
24,039
0.6474
68
69
6
EIU
Big South/OVC
5,672
56.70%
8,857
0.6404
35
70
8
UNH
CAA
8,716
79.10%
13,953
0.6247
120
71
5
Valparaiso
Pioneer
1,778
35.50%
2,958
0.6011
43
72
9
ETSU
SoCon
7,990
103.80%
13,483
0.5926
59
73
3
Sacred Heart
NEC
6,346
158.60%
10,721
0.5919
51
74
4
Idaho St.
Big Sky
7,226
60.20%
12,301
0.5874
77
75
7
Tennessee St.
Big South/OVC
5,400
8.00%
9,218
0.5858
65
76
8
SEMO
Big South/OVC
5,732
57.30%
9,927
0.5774
122
77
4
Saint Francis
NEC
1,646
47.00%
2,857
0.5761
109
78
9
Monmouth
CAA
2,842
67.60%
5,027
0.5653
81
79
5
Morgan St.
MEAC
5,075
50.70%
9,101
0.5576
113
80
6
Drake
Pioneer
2,481
17.04%
4,685
0.5296
83
81
3
Northwestern St.
Southland
4,915
30.70%
9,389
0.5235
67
82
5
EWU
Big Sky
5,678
66.10%
10,910
0.5204
121
83
9
Bryant
Big South/OVC
1,725
39.20%
3,536
0.4878
76
84
4
Tex. A&M-Commerce
Southland
5,420
54.20%
11,306
0.4794
92
85
9
Indiana St.
MVFC
4,088
32.10%
8,658
0.4722
105
86
10
Lindenwood
Big South/OVC
3,280
54.60%
7,000
0.4686
106
87
3
Dartmouth
Ivy
3,153
28.60%
6,744
0.4675
87
88
10
Villanova
CAA
4,676
38.90%
10,383
0.4504
128
89
5
Wagner
NEC
872
26.40%
1,949
0.4474
97
90
7
St. Thomas
Pioneer
3,868
76.90%
9,025
0.4286
119
91
5
HCU
Southland
1,797
35.90%
4,257
0.4221
75
92
6
Howard
MEAC
5,433
76.60%
12,886
0.4216
78
93
11
Maine
CAA
5,138
51.30%
12,231
0.4201
12
94
6
Sac St.
Big Sky
13,348
62.90%
31,818
0.4195
80
95
8
Utah Tech
UAC
5,132
51.30%
12,556
0.4087
32
96
10
Missouri St.
MVFC
9,143
52.20%
22,535
0.4057
102
97
7
N. Col.
Big Sky
3,648
42.90%
9,380
0.3889
107
98
11
WIU
MVFC
2,915
17.80%
7,643
0.3814
104
99
6
CCSU
NEC
3,574
64.90%
9,468
0.3775
19
100
4
Harvard
Ivy
11,555
38.10%
30,631
0.3772
124
101
8
Stetson
Pioneer
1,442
24.00%
3,928
0.3671
52
102
12
Illinois St.
MVFC
7,194
53.70%
20,683
0.3478
95
103
9
Dayton
Pioneer
3,964
36.10%
11,674
0.3396
125
104
5
Bucknell
Patriot
1,281
9.70%
3,787
0.3383
100
105
5
Brown
Ivy
3,765
18.80%
11,189
0.3365
49
106
8
Cal Poly
Big Sky
7,392
66.70%
22,000
0.3360
69
107
6
Lamar
Southland
5,643
35.20%
16,803
0.3358
72
108
12
UAlbany
CAA
5,558
65.30%
16,658
0.3337
114
109
7
UIW
Southland
2,386
39.70%
7,305
0.3266
116
110
10
Marist
Pioneer
2,096
41.90%
6,464
0.3243
79
111
13
Rhode Island
CAA
5,135
99.30%
17,473
0.2939
96
112
8
SLU
Southland
3,944
53.30%
13,465
0.2929
94
113
9
SUU
UAC
4,011
47.10%
14,330
0.2799
39
114
9
Weber St.
Big Sky
8,155
49.80%
29,914
0.2726
22
115
10
UC Davis
Big Sky
10,562
97.30%
39,679
0.2662
50
116
11
Northern Ariz.
Big Sky
7,235
72.30%
28,086
0.2576
57
117
14
Stony Brook
CAA
6,477
52.60%
25,710
0.2519
117
118
7
Duquesne
NEC
1,822
82.80%
8,107
0.2247
73
119
6
Cornell
Ivy
5,509
25.60%
25,898
0.2127
74
120
7
Penn
Ivy
5,474
10.30%
28,201
0.1941
99
121
15
Towson
CAA
3,783
33.70%
19,793
0.1911
44
122
1
Kennesaw
IND
7,857
94.60%
43,190
0.1819
112
123
6
Fordham
Patriot
2,548
36.40%
16,556
0.1539
126
124
11
San Diego
Pioneer
1,278
22.10%
8,815
0.1450
110
125
7
Georgetown
Patriot
2,734
109.30%
20,984
0.1303
89
126
8
Columbia
Ivy
4,366
25.60%
34,782
0.1255
111
127
12
Portland St.
Big Sky
2,636
36.60%
21,609
0.1220
123
128
8
LIU
NEC
1,565
22.30%
15,737
0.0994
65
65
128
128
128
7,159
58.08%
10,888
0.9889
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FCS
'Support
Ratio'
Avg
Rank
Rank
Conference
Rank
Support
Ratio
Avg
19
1
SWAC
1
2.5463
30
2
SoCon
2
1.8983
44
3
MEAC
3
1.6283
56
4
UAC
5
0.8342
60
5
MVFC
6
0.7954
61
6
Big South/OVC
7
0.7540
69
7
Patriot
4
0.9182
71
8
CAA
8
0.7552
77
9
Pioneer
10
0.6715
80
10
Southland
11
0.5942
83
11
Big Sky
9
0.6762
86
12
NEC
12
0.4807
96
13
Ivy
13
0.3953
121
14
Independent
14
0.1819
Wow FUBeAR this is awesome! I have to wonder, is FCS analysis your full time job? I also notice the times of your posts (this one at 0230). I think you are spot on. Like I tell the asshole SEC fans, the numbers in the SoCon are about 10%: 10% of the school size and stadium capacity. Anyway, your analysis proves once again that football just matters more in the South.
MUMD
November 24th, 2023, 09:39 PM
Enrollment figures appear to include graduate students, which is a major portion at some schools and has no effect at others, and who may have been undergrad at other places with no athletic loyalty to the grad school. They probably aren't paying athletics fees and getting game tickets either.
Astute observation. My school (Mercer) has almost 50% grad students yet still came in over 1.00. FUBeAR's Furman has few grad students.
MUMD
November 24th, 2023, 09:44 PM
Population of Greenville and Spartanburg counties are nearly the population of the entire state of Montana... Has enrollment declined significantly? Why did they expand the stadium from 13,200 to 16k in 1985? The population of the surrounding area has blown up, yet in a year with a pretty good team, they would have only have only filled the PRE-expansion stadium 80%. Seems like Furman's "ratio of support" is tanking.......
You are really missing FUBeAR's point. Who are Cats/Griz competing for fans with? Clemson is within an hour of Greenville/Spartanburg, and Columbia within 2. Yet Furman is a very small school with a good FCS history who is holding their own. Maybe they should play in a 12K stadium so it looks full? You really can't compare the sparse and spread out Big Sky with eastern conferences.
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