Does anyone know how fast wes welker is?

[terrierbob]

Is he one of the fastest on the team, or is he just "football quick?

[UNHWildCats]

With the help of and some blatant sampling from the classic online tributes to Chuck Norris and Jack Bauer, I bring you my homage to Wes Welker:


•At the Indianapolis Scouting Combine, Wes Welker’s 40-yard dash time was 1.7 seconds. When scouts double-checked their stopwatches, they saw it had shrunk to 0.7 seconds. They then brought the data to NASA to see if such a speed was humanly possible. NASA said yes, it’s possible, if you’re Wes Welker. NASA then officially petitioned the government to change our unit of time from “seconds” to “Welkers.” This prompted Hollywood to change popular movie titles to Gone in 60 Welkers, Thirty Welkers Over Tokyo, and the Italian classic Trenta Welkeri D’amore (Thirty Welkers of Love)

•If you play defensive back in the N.F.L. and you wake up on Monday morning, it’s because Wes Welker spared your life.

•Wes Welker once ran so fast that he went back in time and lined up against Ronnie Lott, Dick “Night Train” Lane, Mel Blount, Mel Renfro, Willie Brown, and Mike Haynes — one against six. He caught one slant pass and burned them so bad, they’ve since been removed from the Hall of Fame.

http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/26/i-heart-wes-welker/

[UNHWildCats]

http://texastech.scout.com/2/564503.html

This site says he ran a 4.6

[UNHWildCats]

Listed below are just a handful of wide receivers 40-yard dash times before the 2004 draft. They are listed by name, dash time (in seconds) and weight.
* Mike Williams - 4.50, 220
* Larry Fitzgerald - 4.55, 218.
* Roy Williams - 4.45, 208
* Reggie Williams - 4.50, 220
* Michael Clayton - 4.45, 185
* Lee Evans - 4.33, 196
* Michael Jenkins - 4.53, 213
* Rashaun Woods - 4.50, 194
* Devery Henderson - 4.37, 190
* Bernard Berrian - 4.41, 178
* Ernest Wilford - 4.58, 221
* Derrick Hamilton - 4.50, 213
* Devard Darling - 4.45, 205
* Keary Colbert - 4.56, 203
* Darius Watts - 4.50, 175
* Jerricho Cotchery - 4.63, 197
* P.K. Sam - 4.50, 193
* Triandos Luke - 4.45, 190
* Clarence Moore - 4.50, 200
* Jamaar Taylor - 4.45, 193
* Wes Welker - 4.60, 189

http://www.e-sports.com/articles/1537/1/Mike-Williams-lack-of-speed-or-desire/Page1.html

[Peems]

Lee Evans is a bullet!

[Cobblestone]

I think the Steelers found him to be a bit quick tonight.

[Cocky]

Why do players run a 4.3 in HS, a 4.4 in college, then it's a 4.5 in the NFL?

[813Jag]

Why do players run a 4.3 in HS, a 4.4 in college, then it's a 4.5 in the NFL?
Better timing equipment.

[tribe_pride]

Why do players run a 4.3 in HS, a 4.4 in college, then it's a 4.5 in the NFL?


Better timing equipment.

Nope. It's the difference in when people push the stop/start on the stopwatch. None of these are automated or else you would never see a time better than 4.5 even for the fastest guys.

The 4.3 and 4.4 are known in track as a Daddy's stopwatch. Generally, the stopwatch is started when the timer sees the player move and are stopped sometime around the finish. In HS and college, the timers are trying to help their player get better times so may start the watch a split second after the move and anticipate the finish more. The Pros are looking for a more accurate time. As long as the people using the data understand how people time these 40s, its not a big deal.

Read this article to see how fake 40 times are.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/20050418-9999-1s18forty.html

Note this part:


Ben Johnson, who is believed to have run 40 yards faster than any human in history. Johnson is best known for injecting copious amounts of steroids and winning the 100 meters at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul in 9.79 seconds, only to have his gold medal and world record stripped after failing a post-race drug test.

Timing officials have since broken down that famed race into 10-meter increments, and Johnson was so preposterously fast that he went through 50 meters in 5.52 seconds and 60 meters in 6.37 – both under the current world records at those distances. He went through 40 yards that day in 4.38 seconds.

He was running in spikes . . . on a warm afternoon perfectly suited for sprinting . . . with a slight tailwind . . . with years of training from arguably track's top coach, Charlie Francis . . . with Carl Lewis and six others of the fastest men on the planet chasing him . . . with 69,000 people roaring at Seoul's Olympic Stadium . . . with hundreds of millions of people watching on TV . . . with the ultimate prize in sports, an Olympic gold medal, at stake.

And, as we learned later, with muscles built with the assistance of the anabolic steroid stanazolol.

[MplsBison]

What about the Indianapolis Combine, don't that have like a string or something across the finish line?

[Franks Tanks]

Welker is more quick that flat out fast. He looks so fast because he can change direction and accelerate very quickly, which is many times more important than flat out speed anyway.

[tribe_pride]

What about the Indianapolis Combine, don't that have like a string or something across the finish line?

I assume that was for me. Just went to Wikipedia and if you take that as true, here is what I found.


There actually is no single, "official" 40 time at the NFL Combine. National Scouting, which runs the combine, provides three times per run, two fully hand-held and one stopped electronically. Each player may run twice, thereby yielding a potential six times. National Scouting provides all six of these times to NFL teams. The teams then do what they want with those times, or ignore them. Some teams use the best electronic time. Some teams throw out the fastest and slowest and average the rest. Some teams use the best time provided. And some teams use a time provided by their own scout on site.

Note that the stop is electronic but the start is hand-started still. Not sure where the reported times fall out of these but I have to assume that it is the fastest of the 3 or 6 to make people look really good.

Also, note that the 4.38 in my previous post that Johnson ran was from the gun. Not sure of his reaction time but if we go on the quick side of .12, that still only puts him at 4.26 from the time he started to move. Hand times are not very accurate.

In track races, the accepted standard to convert a hand-timed event to its automatically timed equivalent is to round up to the nearest tenth of a second and add .24 seconds. That would make Sanders 4.17 up to 4.44. To actually compare it to Johnson's start from the gun, add .15-.2 to get 4.59-4.64. Still extremely fast but just showing it for comparison sake.

[MplsBison]

Don't they have laser sensors that can tell when a person crosses both the starting line and finish line?


Why stay with (subjective) handheld timers?

[tribe_pride]

Don't they have laser sensors that can tell when a person crosses both the starting line and finish line?


Why stay with (subjective) handheld timers?


After years of telling people about 4.2, 4.3, 4.4 was good to great, 4.5 is average and that 4.6 or worse is bad, how would it look when 4.5-4.6 was only for the top few people and everyone was worse than that by far.

[HIU 93]

Why do players run a 4.3 in HS, a 4.4 in college, then it's a 4.5 in the NFL?

1. Weightlifting. They add pounds of muscle each time weightlifting techniques/equipment increase.

2. Age- People slow as they get older.

[HIU 93]

Fast enough to get the job done- that's all that counts.

[spelunker64]

1. Weightlifting. They add pounds of muscle each time weightlifting techniques/equipment increase.

2. Age- People slow as they get older.

That's what came to mind with me first... xnodx