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Syntax Error
December 6th, 2007, 02:57 PM
http://www.wm.edu/news/images/dcwill/evolutionoflogo.jpg

http://www.wm.edu/news/?id=8509

http://www.wm.edu/news/images/dcwill/4logos2.jpg

Lehigh Football Nation
December 6th, 2007, 03:00 PM
Birds everywhere will be relieved they got rid of those "offensive" feathers. Jury still out on whether Sesame Street will be suing to make the letters "non-offensive" as well. xrolleyesx

Having gotten that off my chest, it looks pretty good. xthumbsupx

Syntax Error
December 6th, 2007, 03:02 PM
I like the 1945 one better. :)

citdog
December 6th, 2007, 03:07 PM
CitDog Likey!xnodx

93BlueHen
December 6th, 2007, 03:11 PM
Well, they used to be the Indians, then the Tribe. They should probably change the mascot to Loosely Affiliated Group of Race-Ambiguous People to make sure no one is offended.

citdog
December 6th, 2007, 03:12 PM
Well, they used to be the Indians, then the Tribe. They should probably change the mascot to Loosely Affiliated Group of Race-Ambiguous People to make sure no one is offended.



xbowx xrulesx xwhistlex xlolx

Go...gate
December 6th, 2007, 03:16 PM
Let's Go LAGRAPS!!!!!

UNHWildCats
December 6th, 2007, 03:20 PM
How about "The William & Mary People" or would that be offensive to animals and aliens?? :p

GannonFan
December 6th, 2007, 03:20 PM
Hey, good for them. And they said taking the feather off would be hard to do. xlolx xlolx xlolx

But the part I like is that they finally got away from the color scheme with the yellow. It was just a blantant ripoff of Waste Management (a trash company) trucks - seriously, did they not vett the design when they came up with it. Now with the muted color outlining the W&M I like it a lot better.

http://www.itchmo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/waste-management-truck.jpg

greenG
December 6th, 2007, 03:20 PM
Well, they used to be the Indians, then the Tribe. They should probably change the mascot to Loosely Affiliated Group of Race-Ambiguous People to make sure no one is offended.

xlolxxlolxxlolxxlolxxlolx
xthumbsupxxthumbsupxxthumbsupx

greenG
December 6th, 2007, 03:22 PM
How about "The William & Mary People" or would that be offensive to animals and aliens?? :p

Would that be like the Village People only with better grades?

UNHWildCats
December 6th, 2007, 03:23 PM
Would that be like the Village People only with better grades?
EEEEKK Steer clear of images of Indians....lol

Marcus Garvey
December 6th, 2007, 03:26 PM
Political correctness aside, because I sure as hell don't follow PC, I always thought Indians/Tribe was a pretty piss-poor nickname for a college named after a couple of British monarchs. Too bad Syracuse erroneously changed their name from Orangemen, because "Orange" would be the perfect nickname for W&M. After all, King William was from the House of Orange.

93BlueHen
December 6th, 2007, 03:30 PM
Hey, good for them. And they said taking the feather off would be hard to do. xlolx xlolx xlolx

But the part I like is that they finally got away from the color scheme with the yellow. It was just a blantant ripoff of Waste Management (a trash company) trucks - seriously, did they not vett the design when they came up with it. Now with the muted color outlining the W&M I like it a lot better.

http://www.itchmo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/waste-management-truck.jpg

Had to laugh GF, because every time I see a Waste Management truck I think about Bill and Biatch. Funny stuff.

HiHiYikas
December 6th, 2007, 03:32 PM
I like it, particularly since it's a move back towards some of the better-looking logos of the past.

For just about any other college, I would say it looks way too fancy for an athletic logo. On William and Mary, it works.

89Hen
December 6th, 2007, 03:37 PM
http://www.wm.edu/news/images/dcwill/4logos2.jpg
xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx

I do not like it. An upside down W is not an M. :(

GannonFan
December 6th, 2007, 03:39 PM
xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx

I do not like it. An upside down W is not an M. :(

Really? Gee, I really have my 4 year old screwed up then!!! xlolx xlolx xlolx

Russ B
December 6th, 2007, 03:41 PM
The 1959 logo makes me giggle.

Yes, I need to grow up. :D

93BlueHen
December 6th, 2007, 03:42 PM
Really? Gee, I really have my 4 year old screwed up then!!! xlolx xlolx xlolx

While we're at it, shouldn't a DoubleU really be called a DoubleV?xeyebrowx

Marcus Garvey
December 6th, 2007, 03:44 PM
The 1959 logo makes me giggle.

Yes, I need to grow up. :D

I see it now. It's like "Stick Figure Porn!" LOL
xlolx xlolx xlolx

TwinTownBisonFan
December 6th, 2007, 03:52 PM
Looks pretty classy if you ask me. I don't entirely love it, but it's alright.

Having gone to college in North Dakota, I can appreciate the racial sensitivity thing to a pretty significant degree... but Tribe is so vague, and the feathers too were ambiguous. Yes, it was clearly connoting native people, but it was not derrogitory toward anyone, the images were clearly not the kind of Chief Wahoo stuff that is genuinely offensive... it probably should have been fine.

That said, I'm not that familiar with the situation, but I feel like this course of action was a bit overblown. I hadn't heard of any native american groups who were upset by this one.

89Hen
December 6th, 2007, 03:55 PM
Really? Gee, I really have my 4 year old screwed up then!!! xlolx xlolx xlolx
Not in that font. The old way was OK when you really couldn't say if it were an M or a W, but with this one, there's no doubt. I've always loved W&M colors, logos and unis, but I really don't care for this one. xsmhx

APPride
December 6th, 2007, 04:05 PM
I see it now. It's like "Stick Figure Porn!" LOL
xlolx xlolx xlolx

you guys beat me to it...I was gonna say it had a certain "suggestiveness"
...(maybe they were planning ahead for the 10 year anniversary of the logo...xrotatehx )

TheValleyRaider
December 6th, 2007, 04:34 PM
xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx

I do not like it. An upside down W is not an M. :(

Agreed

They would have been better off going with an M like they have on their football helmets

Blue Hen Nation
December 6th, 2007, 04:38 PM
William and Mary Laplanders. I don't think they'll get pissed.

HensRock
December 6th, 2007, 04:40 PM
Guess they shot down my suggestion...

http://www.gohens.net/images/NewWMLogo.jpg

appfan2008
December 6th, 2007, 04:42 PM
I like it pretty good... but definately not the best i have seen

Syntax Error
December 6th, 2007, 04:44 PM
I have a real problem with the ampersand

Monarch History
December 6th, 2007, 07:32 PM
Guess they shot down my suggestion...

http://www.gohens.net/images/NewWMLogo.jpg

I'm sure thousands of W&M alums would pick your logo over the others.xthumbsupx

ASUMountaineer
December 6th, 2007, 08:35 PM
Guess they shot down my suggestion...

http://www.gohens.net/images/NewWMLogo.jpg

Great logo.

Tribe4SF
December 6th, 2007, 08:53 PM
When I saw the new logo I thought it was a joke. Eight months with a high-profile committee for nothing we haven't seen before.xthumbsdownx

Sentiment is running 7-1 against in the local media poll.

89Hens design, by the way, is an original by your's truly which was reproduced as car magnets which sold like hotcakes.

AppMan
December 6th, 2007, 08:59 PM
Hey, good for them. And they said taking the feather off would be hard to do. xlolx xlolx xlolx

But the part I like is that they finally got away from the color scheme with the yellow. It was just a blantant ripoff of Waste Management (a trash company) trucks - seriously, did they not vett the design when they came up with it. Now with the muted color outlining the W&M I like it a lot better.

http://www.itchmo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/waste-management-truck.jpg

Let's Go Trashmen!

AppMan
December 6th, 2007, 09:02 PM
xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx

I do not like it. An upside down W is not an M. :(

William & Upside Down William?

Tribe4SF
December 7th, 2007, 04:23 AM
William & Upside Down William?

xlolx xnodx EUREKA!!!

We'll rename The College!xthumbsupx

Local sentiment poll now running 10-1 against.:o

colorless raider
December 7th, 2007, 07:45 AM
http://www.wm.edu/news/images/dcwill/evolutionoflogo.jpg

http://www.wm.edu/news/?id=8509

http://www.wm.edu/news/images/dcwill/4logos2.jpg

Having been thru this with the "Red" Raiders" you have my sympathy, Good luck with whichever logo you choose.

andy7171
December 7th, 2007, 08:03 AM
I like the new logos. Especially the one in the crest. I didn't see in the article that one of these is going on the football helmet though.

I personally like the script Tribe on the green helmet with the stripes.

http://www.nationalchamps.net/Helmet_Project/William_and_Mary_OLD2.gif

Tribe4SF
December 7th, 2007, 10:31 AM
I like the new logos. Especially the one in the crest. I didn't see in the article that one of these is going on the football helmet though.

I personally like the script Tribe on the green helmet with the stripes.

http://www.nationalchamps.net/Helmet_Project/William_and_Mary_OLD2.gif

I liked the old green helmet with Tribe on it as well.

Objections are focused on the font, and the fact that this is really nothing new, and not very distinctive. The committee said they wanted to produce a unifying logo for the 30 odd existing ones, but all they did was produce #31. Alot of time and money wasted from my view. We went from a distinct, and recognizable feathered logo to an unattractive recycle that is overwhelmingly unpopular already. If you look at the helmet in my avatar, it's basically the same thing.

Local sentiment poll now running 12-1 against.

andy7171
December 7th, 2007, 10:53 AM
Local sentiment poll now running 12-1 against.
Is this local sentiment poll the one that gathers in the old church parking lot on Saturdays? :D xthumbsupx

Tribe4SF
December 7th, 2007, 11:04 AM
Is this local sentiment poll the one that gathers in the old church parking lot on Saturdays? :D xthumbsupx

That group is well represented, I can assure you.xthumbsupx

greenG
December 7th, 2007, 12:57 PM
I have a real problem with the ampersand

Ampersandiphobia afflicts thousands of Americans each year. Now there's hope, Ampersandisil has proven effective in clinical studies of patients who fear ampersands...

greenG
December 7th, 2007, 01:01 PM
Political correctness aside, because I sure as hell don't follow PC, I always thought Indians/Tribe was a pretty piss-poor nickname for a college named after a couple of British monarchs. Too bad Syracuse erroneously changed their name from Orangemen, because "Orange" would be the perfect nickname for W&M. After all, King William was from the House of Orange.

Since its founding, W&M has had an educational outreach to the local tribes, hence the nickname Indians until PC caught up with them.

HensRock
December 7th, 2007, 01:05 PM
89Hens design, by the way, is an original by your's truly which was reproduced as car magnets which sold like hotcakes.

Well I guess we can say, "great minds think alike", because I can assure you, that is my original idea and artwork. BTW, I'm not 89Hen.

OL FU
December 7th, 2007, 01:16 PM
Well I guess we can say, "great minds think alike", because I can assure you, that is my original idea and artwork. BTW, I'm not 89Hen.


Royaltiesxwhistlex

Tribe4SF
December 7th, 2007, 01:42 PM
Royaltiesxwhistlex

Apologies to HensRock for confusing him.

Indeed there were royalties, and they ain't gettin shared!:D

Local sentiment poll now running 14-1 against!

Marcus Garvey
December 7th, 2007, 02:00 PM
Ampersandiphobia afflicts thousands of Americans each year. Now there's hope, Ampersandisil has proven effective in clinical studies of patients who fear ampersands...

This is fantastic news indeed! For with a fear of ampersands, thousands of Americans are unable to use pointers or references when programming in C or C++. This is good news indeed!

OL FU
December 7th, 2007, 02:18 PM
Apologies to HensRock for confusing him.

Indeed there were royalties, and they ain't gettin shared!:D

Local sentiment poll now running 14-1 against!

Greedy Capitalist Pigxrolleyesx xlolx

Tribe4SF
December 7th, 2007, 02:40 PM
Greedy Capitalist Pigxrolleyesx xlolx


Oink, oink!xnodx

Seawolf97
December 7th, 2007, 10:23 PM
Ampersandiphobia afflicts thousands of Americans each year. Now there's hope, Ampersandisil has proven effective in clinical studies of patients who fear ampersands...

Now is that effective for four hours or 36 hours if interupted?xrolleyesx