Worst NDSU team since…?

[crusader11]

Discuss.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Sack then a brutal INT when they were in position to get this to a one possession game. UND has been the aggressor all game....

[TheKingpin28]

2010. Not 2009 bad but meathead is doing his best to make us believe it's that bad.

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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

UND 35-17...wow...

Seems like it might be a great night to spend at Brick and Barley on 3rd Street in GF!!

[grizband]

2010. Not 2009 bad but meathead is doing his best to make us believe it's that bad.

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Was Entz considered a good coaching hire at the time? He's taken the Bison to four playoff appearances, with two championships and a second place finish.

[POD Knows]

Was Entz considered a good coaching hire at the time? He's taken the Bison to four playoff appearances, with two championships and a second place finish.
He lived off others recruits. The skill of this team is way below the previous 12 years of this run. Today the Bison are showing their true colors. Might as well get used to it.

[crusader11]

Was Entz considered a good coaching hire at the time? He's taken the Bison to four playoff appearances, with two championships and a second place finish.

A lot of guys would have done that.

[Christiank22]

Was Entz considered a good coaching hire at the time? He's taken the Bison to four playoff appearances, with two championships and a second place finish.

Anyone could have done that

[Christiank22]

If anyone is surprised by this they haven’t watched us all year. We are a bottom half of the valley team. We will not make the playoffs this year. Worst team since 2009 and we are only going to get worse. Thanks Entz

[Gil Dobie]

We had a great run, best in FCS history. It was great while it lasted.

[POD Knows]

NDSU is **** this year. They are out of my top 25. Absolute garbage.

[POD Knows]

UND is better at every position group than the except kicking. EVERY ****ING POSITION GROUP. prove me wrong and how the **** did this happen.

[Bison56]

Stopped recruiting Midwest tough kids. Went to Read option, never under center, don't have a RB or at least they don't use them.

[POD Knows]

All you guys that picked NDSU over UND. How could you not grasp how weak and soft this NDSU team is. I wouldn’t be surprised if Murray State made a game out of it

[Christiank22]

UND is better at every position group than the except kicking. EVERY ****ING POSITION GROUP. prove me wrong and how the **** did this happen.

Matt Entz. I was called an idiot for saying he sucks. Now look. We are one of the worst teams in the MVFC thanks to that idiot

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

NDSU is at best a fringe Top 25 team at this point. This is shocking. Not the loss....the optics....

[WrenFGun]

I'm here knowing that at least while my team sucks, watching NDSU suck brings me tremendous joy.

[POD Knows]

NDSU is at best a fringe Top 25 team at this point. This is shocking. Not the loss....the optics....
Not shocking to us that saw a decent BISON team get manhandled and emasculated by SDSU in Frisco last year. That team was a paper tiger. Entz needs to go. There is no recovering from this. This is sort of a veteran team as well.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I'm here knowing that at least while my team sucks, watching NDSU suck brings me tremendous joy.

Suck is contextual. We're breaking barriers at Lehigh....

[grizband]

Suck is contextual. We're breaking barriers at Lehigh....
Wofford and The Citadel have entered the chat.

[TheKingpin28]

Was Entz considered a good coaching hire at the time? He's taken the Bison to four playoff appearances, with two championships and a second place finish.Exactly what POD said. I wasn't a fan but I was willing to give him a chance. Once he let the players run the team and make it clear that politics was more important than results on the field and being in the class, I wanted him gone.

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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

They storm the field in Grand Forks!

[Ivytalk]

Schadenfreude, there, Wrenny?

[TheKingpin28]

They storm the field in Grand Forks!That is why they are absolute scum. Imagine storming the field for a regular season game.

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[Christiank22]

I do find it pretty pathetic that UND is storming the field over this. This game will always mean more to them than us

[grizband]

Noth Dakota's first win over North Dakota State since 2003. Which, interestingly, is the year the Bison upset Montana in Coach Hauck's first season as head coach.

[WrenFGun]

Schadenfreude, there, Wrenny?

My UNH education doesn't let me understand those kinds of words.

[Ivytalk]

My UNH education doesn't let me understand those kinds of words.
You’re pulling my wrinkled old leg!

[JSUSoutherner]

Lol

[grizband]

That is why they are absolute scum. Imagine storming the field for a regular season game.

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Imagine the tables are turned, and North Dakota has 9 national titles in FCS, and North Dakota State hadn't beaten them since 2003. Don't you think Bison fans would also storm the field in that scenario?

[ElCid]

I do find it pretty pathetic that UND is storming the field over this. This game will always mean more to them than us

First win in the series in 20 years. And not just a win, but thumping. And you don't think that warrants a bit of enthusiasm? Hmm. Interesting. I'd never begrudge a team for that.

[Christiank22]

Imagine the tables are turned, and North Dakota has 9 national titles in FCS, and North Dakota State hadn't beaten them since 2003. Don't you think Bison fans would also storm the field in that scenario?

I would hope not, if they did I would be calling those fans pathetic as well

[Christiank22]

First win in the series in 20 years. And not just a win, but thumping. And you don't think that warrants a bit of enthusiasm? Hmm. Interesting. I'd never begrudge a team for that.

Just goes to show how much we mean to them I guess. I couldn’t imagine rushing the field for anything besides a title. Especially not to a bottom of the conference team like us

[POD Knows]

Lol
Weren’t you the one that tossed shade on those of us WHO ****ING KNOW the state of this team after the USD loss.

[POD Knows]

I would hope not, if they did I would be calling those fans pathetic as well
This.

[JSUSoutherner]

Weren’t you the one that tossed shade on those of us WHO ****ING KNOW the state of this team after the USD loss.
Sure am.

Now ask me if I'm at all bothered by being wrong about NDSU being mortal again.

[POD Knows]

Sure am.

Now ask me if I'm at all bothered by being wrong about NDSU being mortal again.
Hell. If I were you guys I would be trolling the hell out of this. But those of you that basically said we were being over the top were completely wrong. WE knew what the deal was and had real concerns over the quality of this team. It manifested itself in the Natty last year and was easy to see, you didn’t even have to look that hard.

[JSUSoutherner]

Hell. If I were you guys I would be trolling the hell out of this. But those of you that basically said we were being over the top were completely wrong. WE knew what the deal was and had real concerns over the quality of this team. It manifested itself in the Natty last year and was easy to see, you didn’t even have to look that hard.
Well at least you can take solace in the fact you were right.

[Chalupa Batman]

2010. Not 2009 bad but meathead is doing his best to make us believe it's that bad.

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2010 team would roll this years team. So I’d say this is the worst team since 2009.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

2010 team would roll this years team. So I’d say this is the worst team since 2009.

2010 is the infamous TD no TD ending against eventual champ EWU? Yeah, this year's edition is FAR worse....

[POD Knows]

Well at least you can take solace in the fact you were right.
Every cloud has a silver lining

[CockyGeek]

When you can't understand why people would storm the field is how you know you've been good for too long.

[crusader11]

Don’t blame NoDak one bit for storming.

[ElCid]

Don’t blame NoDak one bit for storming.

No joke. It's just an "attempt" at belittling them.

[bonarae]

What was the "tipping point" of NDSU's dynasty in the FCS fading out? It's happening before our eyes now.

[Christiank22]

What was the "tipping point" of NDSU's dynasty in the FCS fading out? It's happening before our eyes now.

Hiring Matt Entz

[TheKingpin28]

Imagine the tables are turned, and North Dakota has 9 national titles in FCS, and North Dakota State hadn't beaten them since 2003. Don't you think Bison fans would also storm the field in that scenario?Act like you've been there before, oh wait, they haven't. It was their national title game and NDSU got bitch slapped. Maybe this will lead to coaching staff getting fired and players who actually care about the name on the front.

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[TheKingpin28]

2010 team would roll this years team. So I’d say this is the worst team since 2009.I have to believe this team can pretend to be useful enough to beat 2010.

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[TheKingpin28]

What was the "tipping point" of NDSU's dynasty in the FCS fading out? It's happening before our eyes now.Matt Entz being hired as HC/transfer portal chnaging rules/Tyler Roehl destroying the West Coast Offense.

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[Christiank22]

Act like you've been there before, oh wait, they haven't. It was their national title game and NDSU got bitch slapped. Maybe this will lead to coaching staff getting fired and players who actually care about the name on the front.

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Exactly this. This was the biggest win in the history of UND football. Just look at how many threads there are on here, Reddit, Twitter, etc.

I was hoping for a bigger loss today. A 50 burger. Something that forced our ADs hand to make a change.

[POD Knows]

Is NDSU bad enough now to move up, I think they have hit that target. The time is now

[Chalupa Batman]

I have to believe this team can pretend to be useful enough to beat 2010.

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It would be comical watching this years team trying to slow down DJ McNorton. And Bohl would coach circles around Entz.

[penguinpower]

2011

[Christiank22]

It would be comical watching this years team trying to slow down DJ McNorton. And Bohl would coach circles around Entz.

Bruce Anderson and Wentz… my god they would destroy us. Easton Stick would have 200 yds rushing and 300yds passing.

[NDSU1980]

2009. I even hate to think about that team. Bohl wasn't even smart enough to recruit a quarterback in those days.

[penguinpower]

2009. I even hate to think about that team. Bohl wasn't even smart enough to recruit a quarterback in those days.

I think a shift in power within the conference started when SDSU built that brand new stadium. It's a war of assets in a way, and I think it really helped in their recruiting. Plus you guyshave been through several coaching changes too. But it's just as much a war of the assets to me when it comes to kids.

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2009. I even hate to think about that team. Bohl wasn't even smart enough to recruit a quarterback in those days.

I think a shift in power within the conference started when SDSU built that brand new stadium. It's a war of assets in a way, and I think it really helped in their recruiting. Plus you guys have been through several coaching changes too. But it's just as much a war of the assets to me when it comes to kids.

[FUBeAR]

…FUBeAR became aware that North Dakota State fielded a Football Team.

[Chalupa Batman]

I always thought that what Chris Kleiman did at NDSU was very similar to what Chris Petersen did for Boise State and Mark Few did for Gonzaga basketball: Inherit a very good program/team, and take that level of success to another stratosphere that not even the most optimistic fans thought was possible. Like Boise when Petersen moved on, NDSU has not been able to maintain the level of success that his predecessor had. I suspect that Gonzaga would've suffered a similar fate and faded back into relative obsurity had they not been able to hold on to Few, it is very hard to maintain that level of excellence across 3 coaches.

[ming01]

What was the "tipping point" of NDSU's dynasty in the FCS fading out? It's happening before our eyes now.

SDSU manhandling us in Frisco

[Redbird 4th & short]

Don’t blame NoDak one bit for storming.

This !!

Wow, the lack of perspective and awareness is astounding. Pissed about UND storming the field .. seriously??

Guys, step back, take a breath, and think about it.

[gofurman]

Wofford and The Citadel have entered the chat.
Exactly. It’s all relative. Especially in West Virginia 😂

[dewey]

2010 team would roll this years team. So I’d say this is the worst team since 2009.

That 2010 team was dang good and made a nice run in the playoffs.

This years team is the worst since the 2009 team.

Entz needs to go along with Roehl.

Dewey

[ST_Lawson]

Me, having just watched my team get steamrolled 48-7 by a now 2-4 Missouri State, knowing that we have to go play an angry NDSU team that's probably going to be looking to take out some revenge on the next visitor to the Fargodome...

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[Christiank22]

This !!

Wow, the lack of perspective and awareness is astounding. Pissed about UND storming the field .. seriously??

Guys, step back, take a breath, and think about it.

No one’s pissed. It’s flattering. I just find it tacky to do in a regular season game

[Christiank22]

Me, having just watched my team get steamrolled 48-7 by a now 2-4 Missouri State, knowing that we have to go play an angry NDSU team that's probably going to be looking to take out some revenge on the next visitor to the Fargodome...

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There’s nothing angry about this team. Don’t worry

[Catbooster]

First win in the series in 20 years. And not just a win, but thumping. And you don't think that warrants a bit of enthusiasm? Hmm. Interesting. I'd never begrudge a team for that.
Acting as though a bunch of teenager+ students shouldn't get excited about a football game makes no sense. It comes across as a stuffy old guy who's only remaining way to feel superior is to criticize the students for being too excited about winning a game.

Or like those fans that want you to sit down during the game - don't be so excited, stay seated and clap politely.

[Cocky]

Entz is NDSUs John Grass. Grass rode Clarks system to the finals then started the slide down. Had to make a change to stop the slide and sure NDSU will be doing the same soon.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

No one’s pissed. It’s flattering. I just find it tacky to do in a regular season game


Bullshi*

I was in Cedar Falls when UNI broke our streak. Fans are fans and let them celebrate. UND fans storming the field was fine with me and it doesn't matter if it was a regular season game.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

When you can't understand why people would storm the field is how you know you've been good for too long.


This here 100%

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

It remains to be seen if this is a bad team but all the indications are there that is could be.

I've been saying this for awhile, moving to the read option crap like every other team is hot garbage. Bison were a power team that ran a version of the west coast 49er offense but now they look over to the sideline this year to see if they need to change the play. Let the freaking QB audible out of a bad call

Poor athletes on defense is really getting exposed. All 3 levels are weak. Plus our generational strength of our OL every year is way down this year. Weak OL.

#1: Coaching

[ysubigred]

This is a great thread..

I wish the flightless birds had NDSUs problems..

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[Pards Rule]

My perspective is limited to timeframe from Sept 2011 when I went to Fargo for 4 day visit to watch Lafayette play (we had a weak team). But made great friends out there to this day (one just sent me a package of that Big Deck BBQ sauce - yum) and they (Tony and Pat) have n=been here to visit me on Long Beach Island NJ after the Delaware game a few years ago. So, I have to state this years team as it wont get into playoffs even.

[POD Knows]

My perspective is limited to timeframe from Sept 2011 when I went to Fargo for 4 day visit to watch Lafayette play (we had a weak team). But made great friends out there to this day (one just sent me a package of that Big Deck BBQ sauce - yum) and they (Tony and Pat) have n=been here to visit me on Long Beach Island NJ after the Delaware game a few years ago. So, I have to state this years team as it wont get into playoffs even.
I don’t believe a 7-4 Bisona team should be playoff eligible and that is probably the best this team an hope for. They are gonna get throttled by SDSU, that is the third loss, and will lose another to either SIU or UNI. This outcome should be a situation where coaches are let go. With all the advantages and resources this school has there should never, ever be a time when they fall that hard. The Petrino hire to me always seemed odd as his “resume” was not that impressive and we now have the worst Bison D since 2009 but he inherited a cupboard that was sort of bare and very overrated

I think this staff either has no real eye for talent or they simply got lazy and expected the rep of the program to automatically entice recruits.

[Pards Rule]

I don’t believe a 7-4 Bisona team should be playoff eligible and that is probably the best this team an hope for. They are gonna get throttled by SDSU, that is the third loss, and will lose another to either SIU or UNI. This outcome should be a situation where coaches are let go. With all the advantages and resources this school has there should never, ever be a time when they fall that hard. The Petrino hire to me always seemed odd as his “resume” was not that impressive and we now have the worst Bison D since 2009 but he inherited a cupboard that was sort of bare and very overrated

I think this staff either has no real eye for talent or they simply got lazy and expected the rep of the program to automatically entice recruits.

Yes the rep of the program did entice recruits but now SDSU is doing very well, so that magic will help them. The whole thing is as baffling as Gov. Doug Bergstrom's candidacy for president. Im hoping Lafayette gets a return visit out to Fargo. Hey it was the only time I have ever been in the sports section (thanks Fargo Forum!)

[semobison]

The Bison are 4-3 in their last seven games going back to the Natty and our defense is giving up 26ppg. During our championship runs we gave up 12-13 ppg for over a decade! We won Natty’s with a pedestrian offense but our defense was always stingy. Not any more.

[jacksfan29!]

The Bison are 4-3 in their last seven games going back to the Natty and our defense is giving up 26ppg. During our championship runs we gave up 12-13 ppg for over a decade! We won Natty’s with a pedestrian offense but our defense was always stingy. Not any more.

Saw a post on Bisonville that nailed it. How is it SDSU has not lost players to the portal, except for players moving down due to playing time. Yet NDSU are. Coaching, something is wrong in the locker room in Fargo. I see a coaching change coming.

[POD Knows]

Yes the rep of the program did entice recruits but now SDSU is doing very well, so that magic will help them. The whole thing is as baffling as Gov. Doug Bergstrom's candidacy for president. Im hoping Lafayette gets a return visit out to Fargo. Hey it was the only time I have ever been in the sports section (thanks Fargo Forum!)I don't want NDSU to play Lafeyette, I want the Bison to play teams we can beat at this stage of the game. xlolx

Also, if you ever get a chance to get back over here, put a bug in Pat's ear to cook up some gumbo for the tailgate, it is absolutely world class chow. Oh baby.

[Hammerhead]

The only time I've seen bison fans storm the field was at D-II or FCS championship games.


Imagine the tables are turned, and North Dakota has 9 national titles in FCS, and North Dakota State hadn't beaten them since 2003. Don't you think Bison fans would also storm the field in that scenario?

[MR. CHICKEN]

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[Hammerhead]

The silver lining for me is I can buy premium unused seats from season ticketholders instead of sitting near the top of the end zone like we have been since moving back to Fargo 8 years ago.

I don't see this team going past the first round in the playoffs if they even get that far.

[Pards Rule]

I don't want NDSU to play Lafeyette, I want the Bison to play teams we can beat at this stage of the game. xlolx

Also, if you ever get a chance to get back over here, but a bug in Pat's ear to cook up some gumbo for the tailgate, it is absolutely world class chow. Oh baby.

LOL Im hopiong better than 42-6 (we did score TD but missed PAT, Lehigh was skunked)...I heard gumbo awesome. i miss TAB and the rest. I went down to Frisco Jan 2012 to cheer you on! Someone even read about it and offered me a free ticket. I have a standing invite from Tony and Pat to return! Even if Pards arent playing!

[Christiank22]

It remains to be seen if this is a bad team but all the indications are there that is could be.

I've been saying this for awhile, moving to the read option crap like every other team is hot garbage. Bison were a power team that ran a version of the west coast 49er offense but now they look over to the sideline this year to see if they need to change the play. Let the freaking QB audible out of a bad call

Poor athletes on defense is really getting exposed. All 3 levels are weak. Plus our generational strength of our OL every year is way down this year. Weak OL.

#1: Coaching

What are you smoking and can I get some??

Remains to be seen….?

This team is going to go 6-5, miss playoffs, and get throttled by SDSU, SIU, and UNI.

This team is legitimately one of the worst teams in the MVFC. Matt Entz and Matt Larsen should be unemployed by the end of the year. I wonder how they feel knowing they ruined the greatest run in FCS history.

[jacksfan29!]

What are you smoking and can I get some??

Remains to be seen….?

This team is going to go 6-5, miss playoffs, and get throttled by SDSU, SIU, and UNI.

This team is legitimately one of the worst teams in the MVFC. Matt Entz and Matt Larsen should be unemployed by the end of the year. I wonder how they feel knowing they ruined the greatest run in FCS history.

They won't get throttled by SIU or UNI. Who knows what happens against SDSU, it is a rivalry game, a lot of emotions. UND was a terrible team when SDSU played them, one week in Grand Forks and suddenly they looked like world beaters. Anything can happen from week to week, that said, yesterday is the first time in the FCS years I recall a Bison team looking like they quit. I said it before, something is wrong in that locker room.

[Christiank22]

They won't get throttled by SIU or UNI. Who knows what happens against SDSU, it is a rivalry game, a lot of emotions. UND was a terrible team when SDSU played them, one week in Grand Forks and suddenly they looked like world beaters. Anything can happen from week to week, that said, yesterday is the first time in the FCS years I recall a Bison team looking like they quit. I said it before, something is wrong in that locker room.

Matt Entz is what’s wrong. He is truly one of the worst coaches in all of college football.

I appreciate the optimist but no, this team is done. They respond to losses by feeling sorry for themselves and expecting everything to go their way. There’s no fire, no drive, and no leadership on this team. It’s 100% on coaching. Makes me sick to see Entz on the sideline, the dude doesn’t deserve to be called an NDSU football coach.

[MTfan4life]

yesterday is the first time in the FCS years I recall a Bison team looking like they quit.

Granted it was the COVID year, but they definitely quit against SIU when they got thumped in Carbondale.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

What are you smoking and can I get some??

Remains to be seen….?

This team is going to go 6-5, miss playoffs, and get throttled by SDSU, SIU, and UNI.

This team is legitimately one of the worst teams in the MVFC. Matt Entz and Matt Larsen should be unemployed by the end of the year. I wonder how they feel knowing they ruined the greatest run in FCS history.


I don't smoke junior unlike your generation of slackers.

I've been a critic of this team since last year. Bison will win the next 2 games and have a pretty slim chance against SDSU. SIU and UNI are winnable games.

If this coaching staff keeps doing this status quo crap, they deserve to be fired.

[Christiank22]

I don't smoke junior unlike your generation of slackers.

I've been a critic of this team since last year. Bison will win the next 2 games and have a pretty slim chance against SDSU. SIU and UNI are winnable games.

If this coaching staff keeps doing this status quo crap, they deserve to be fired.

Aww yes. We’re the slackers yet you’re the one diluting yourself thinking this team has a chance at anything. You were probably one of the people who defended Entz.

SIU will dominate this defense and UNI will coach circles around Entz.

We have the same chance of beating SDSU as I have of winning the lottery. Ps I don’t play the lottery.

I know a few real estate agents in Fargo, I’ll give Entz their number so he can get the hell out of Fargo as soon as possible.

[MTfan4life]

I don't smoke junior unlike your generation of slackers.

I've been a critic of this team since last year. Bison will win the next 2 games and have a pretty slim chance against SDSU. SIU and UNI are winnable games.

If this coaching staff keeps doing this status quo crap, they deserve to be fired.

This right here. The sky isn't falling quite yet, but there's definitely reason to be irked. They're still 4-2 with a non-con win over a likely conference champion. They'd still get into the playoffs at 7-4. With two guaranteed wins, all they have to do is finish 1-2 against their final 3 opponents. Then you get the Montana advantage of having a home first round game against the OVC or Southland, and then probably get sent to Bozeman.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Aww yes. We’re the slackers yet you’re the one diluting yourself thinking this team has a chance at anything. You were probably one of the people who defended Entz.

SIU will dominate this defense and UNI will coach circles around Entz.

We have the same chance of beating SDSU as I have of winning the lottery. Ps I don’t play the lottery.

I know a few real estate agents in Fargo, I’ll give Entz their number so he can get the hell out of Fargo as soon as possible.


Ya, they do. They can make the playoffs not matter how smart you think you are.

Coaching staff and players need a come to Jesus moment and figure out their issues.

[caribbeanhen]

It remains to be seen if this is a bad team but all the indications are there that is could be.

I've been saying this for awhile, moving to the read option crap like every other team is hot garbage. Bison were a power team that ran a version of the west coast 49er offense but now they look over to the sideline this year to see if they need to change the play. Let the freaking QB audible out of a bad call

Poor athletes on defense is really getting exposed. All 3 levels are weak. Plus our generational strength of our OL every year is way down this year. Weak OL.

#1: Coaching

this 100%

[POD Knows]

This right here. The sky isn't falling quite yet, but there's definitely reason to be irked. They're still 4-2 with a non-con win over a likely conference champion. They'd still get into the playoffs at 7-4. With two guaranteed wins, all they have to do is finish 1-2 against their final 3 opponents. Then you get the Montana advantage of having a home first round game against the OVC or Southland, and then probably get sent to Bozeman.
No way a 7-4 a bison team gets in the playoffs unless they want 6 MVFC teams in. We lose every tie breaker against the bubble teams. Get a grip. The Bison make it at 8-3 and they will never get there. Save this post for fact. ****.

[MTfan4life]

No way a 7-4 a bison team gets in the playoffs unless they want 6 MVFC teams in. We lose every tie breaker against the bubble teams. Get a grip. The Bison make it at 8-3 and they will never get there. Save this post for fact. ****.

Saved. I understand you're at the bottom of your third box of tissues. Montana got in just last season at 7-4 without a single win over a team better than 4-7. New Hampshire annually gets in with minimal resumes. UNI was 6-5 in 2021 when they got in. They generally favor storied programs.

[Bisonoline]

Pissed??? Not me. I find it amusing.:D

[Bisonoline]

My perspective is limited to timeframe from Sept 2011 when I went to Fargo for 4 day visit to watch Lafayette play (we had a weak team). But made great friends out there to this day (one just sent me a package of that Big Deck BBQ sauce - yum) and they (Tony and Pat) have n=been here to visit me on Long Beach Island NJ after the Delaware game a few years ago. So, I have to state this years team as it wont get into playoffs even.

Hey thanks for the T-Shirt!!!!!!!!!

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[POD Knows]

Saved. I understand you're at the bottom of your third box of tissues. Montana got in just last season at 7-4 without a single win over a team better than 4-7. New Hampshire annually gets in with minimal resumes. UNI was 6-5 in 2021 when they got in. They generally favor storied programs.
Tissues. I think it is hilarious. I am not one of these guys that lives and dies over this ****. I am a Bison fan but it is pretty low on my list of important things. If they want to go to GF and drop their pants, salud, that is on them.

[Gil Dobie]

Worst team since 2002. Coach reminds me of Babich, offense and defense. Bison will be lucky to go 6-5.

If Entz comes back, 2-8 next year. We have recruits, they are not being developed like the Bohl/Kleiman years.

[MSUBobcat]

Tissues. I think it is hilarious. I am not one of these guys that lives and dies over this ****. I am a Bison fan but it is pretty low on my list of important things. If they want to go to GF and drop their pants, salud, that is on them.

I dunno, man. You salty AF for not living and dying over this ****...

[POD Knows]

I dunno, man. You salty AF for not living and dying over this ****...
I get salty over small **** all the time, I wouldn’t read too much into it. Now get the **** off my lawn. 😀

[Bisonoline]

Aww yes. We’re the slackers yet you’re the one diluting yourself thinking this team has a chance at anything. You were probably one of the people who defended Entz.

SIU will dominate this defense and UNI will coach circles around Entz.

We have the same chance of beating SDSU as I have of winning the lottery. Ps I don’t play the lottery.

I know a few real estate agents in Fargo, I’ll give Entz their number so he can get the hell out of Fargo as soon as possible.

Nice false equivalency. How do you equate your generation of slackers with him thinking this team may be better than what you think????

What type of mental gymnastics got you to make that leap?????? WOW

[MSUBobcat]

I get salty over small **** all the time, I wouldn’t read too much into it. Now get the **** off my lawn. 😀

Lol. Fair enough. Turn that ****ing music down!

[TheKingpin28]

It would be comical watching this years team trying to slow down DJ McNorton. And Bohl would coach circles around Entz.

The more I thought about it, the more I realized DJ would have ran a freight train through the middle of this "defense".

[bonarae]

Meanwhile... are they the Midwestern and/or more well-managed version of ETSU football? xchinscratchx

[Gil Dobie]

The more I thought about it, the more I realized DJ would have ran a freight train through the middle of this "defense".

That same hole in the middle has been exposed by several teams the last 2 years. No changes appear to have been made.

[Pards Rule]

Hey thanks for the T-Shirt!!!!!!!!!

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Pat youre welcome. You look good in it! For those that dont know, one afternoon I walked into a Lewisburg Walmart (this past spring and I know sounds like start of bad joke)... and beheld a rack of these! I guess shipped to the wrong Bison?! Anyways bought a bunch of them for $1.00 apiece and sent some out to my good friends on the Red River. Folks I spent four days basking in the wonders of Fargo so how could I not return some favor!

[TheKingpin28]

That same hole in the middle has been exposed by several teams the last 2 years. No changes appear to have been made.It's why I've been calling him Meathead all this time.

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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Nice false equivalency. How do you equate your generation of slackers with him thinking this team may be better than what you think????

What type of mental gymnastics got you to make that leap?????? WOW


PL, he's a little punk idiot!

xnodx

[Gil Dobie]

It's why I've been calling him Meathead all this time.

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Used to be great when the Bison would come out the 2nd half with adjustments on offense or defense.

[Bisonator]

The correct answer is 2009. Worst NDSU team since 2009. The recruiting and coaching has been falling off since Klieman left. The lines are very average and that's a huge issue especially in the MVFC. We will be lucky to finish 4th or 5th in the conference. Looking at 3 or 4 losses at least.

[POD Knows]

The correct answer is 2009. Worst NDSU team since 2009. The recruiting and coaching has been falling off since Klieman left. The lines are very average and that's a huge issue especially in the MVFC. We will be lucky to finish 4th or 5th in the conference. Looking at 3 or 4 losses at least.
Hell. That 2009 team was more competitive in most of their losses than this team. When they finish 6-5 I am gonna jump the shark and state that it is the worst team since the move to D1. At least there were a lot of quality players on the 2009 team.

[Bisonator]

Hell. That 2009 team was more competitive in most of their losses than this team. When they finish 6-5 I am gonna jump the shark and state that it is the worst team since the move to D1. At least there were a lot of quality players on the 2009 team.
You maybe right we'll see how the rest of the season plays out I guess. My hope is we start playing some of the younger guys and they impress but time will tell.

[Professor Chaos]

Mentioned this in the AGS Poll thread but this week broke an incredible streak of 175 consecutive polls where NDSU was ranked in the top 8 of the AGS Poll - it started with the final poll of the 2010 season.

I always knew that streak would come to an end but for them to completely fall of a cliff is pretty astounding. Plenty of blame to go around but most of it needs to be heaped right at the top with HC Matt Entz. I never would've thought someone 2 seasons removed from a national title and one season removed from a national runner-up would be on the hot seat but here we are - his team has earned him that heat.

[POD Knows]

You maybe right we'll see how the rest of the season plays out I guess. My hope is we start playing some of the younger guys and they impress but time will tell.These guys that stick around 5/6/7 years are a detriment to these teams, the young guys don't get to see the field, start looking elsewhere and bail. There are a handful of NDSU guys coming back next year maybe and I think the team would be better off if they just packed it in.

[Bisonator]

These guys that stick around 5/6/7 years are a detriment to these teams, the young guys don't get to see the field, start looking elsewhere and bail. There are a handful of NDSU guys coming back next year maybe and I think the team would be better off if they just packed it in.

Giving guys an extra year due to covid was dumb but the coaching staff playing older players over more talented players is just plain stupid. The best players should play.

[crusader11]

Mentioned this in the AGS Poll thread but this week broke an incredible streak of 175 consecutive polls where NDSU was ranked in the top 8 of the AGS Poll - it started with the final poll of the 2010 season.

I always knew that streak would come to an end but for them to completely fall of a cliff is pretty astounding. Plenty of blame to go around but most of it needs to be heaped right at the top with HC Matt Entz. I never would've thought someone 2 seasons removed from a national title and one season removed from a national runner-up would be on the hot seat but here we are - his team has earned him that heat.

Should Courtney Messingham been the guy instead?

What about Joe Klanderman?

[TheKingpin28]

Used to be great when the Bison would come out the 2nd half with adjustments on offense or defense.That was when we had a coaching staff that wasn't RPO based and actually cared about a legacy.

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[Christiank22]

Mentioned this in the AGS Poll thread but this week broke an incredible streak of 175 consecutive polls where NDSU was ranked in the top 8 of the AGS Poll - it started with the final poll of the 2010 season.

I always knew that streak would come to an end but for them to completely fall of a cliff is pretty astounding. Plenty of blame to go around but most of it needs to be heaped right at the top with HC Matt Entz. I never would've thought someone 2 seasons removed from a national title and one season removed from a national runner-up would be on the hot seat but here we are - his team has earned him that heat.

I know it’s hard to believe but watching the games it was pretty obvious from the beginning that entz was lost out there. Since he took over we’ve had issues with discipline, lacked adjustments, and started a bunch of gimmicky **** (see swinging gate)

We out talented everyone, now we have his recruits who aren’t as talented and we’re horrible. I can’t wait to see him gone

[Professor Chaos]

Should Courtney Messingham been the guy instead?

What about Joe Klanderman?
There's plenty of good candidates out there from the Bohl/Klieman tree... but it's probably all hot air until at least the end of next season. Entz probably will get a chance to turn it around (people forget that Craig Bohl's team lost their way in the middle of his tenure before he got them back on track) but I bet his leash is as short of a coach who's 53-9 with two national titles can have.

[Bisonoline]

Pat youre welcome. You look good in it! For those that dont know, one afternoon I walked into a Lewisburg Walmart (this past spring and I know sounds like start of bad joke)... and beheld a rack of these! I guess shipped to the wrong Bison?! Anyways bought a bunch of them for $1.00 apiece and sent some out to my good friends on the Red River. Folks I spent four days basking in the wonders of Fargo so how could I not return some favor!

We loved having you. You know you are welcome back anytime!!!!!

[Bisonoline]

Used to be great when the Bison would come out the 2nd half with adjustments on offense or defense.

Entz out smarted them by NOT doing any 2cnd half adjustments. HA he fooled them.

[dewey]

I think this NDSU team is the worst since 2009. That 2009 finished 3-8 but of those 8 losses none of them were by more than 15 points and a lot closer.

Dewey

[Gil Dobie]

I think this NDSU team is the worst since 2009. That 2009 finished 3-8 but of those 8 losses none of them were by more than 15 points and a lot closer.

Dewey

That team was better than this team. Bohl would have outcoached the crap out of Entz in a head to head game 2009 vs 2023. Thats why I said 2002, Entz and Babich are both at the low end of the coaching gene pool.

[bonarae]

Mentioned this in the AGS Poll thread but this week broke an incredible streak of 175 consecutive polls where NDSU was ranked in the top 8 of the AGS Poll - it started with the final poll of the 2010 season.

I always knew that streak would come to an end but for them to completely fall of a cliff is pretty astounding. Plenty of blame to go around but most of it needs to be heaped right at the top with HC Matt Entz. I never would've thought someone 2 seasons removed from a national title and one season removed from a national runner-up would be on the hot seat but here we are - his team has earned him that heat.

Are NDSU's troubles even comparable to ETSU's, at least in football? Dartmouth is probably joining the mix, but that's too early to tell for our Ivy comparant?

[Professor Chaos]

Are NDSU's troubles even comparable to ETSU's, at least in football? Dartmouth is probably joining the mix, but that's too early to tell for our Ivy comparant?
I don't think so. NDSU has every built-in advantage you can have at this level unlike those teams. It's much more akin to Montana IMO. They'll have their pick from a lot of really good coaches if they part ways with Entz or Entz will get it figured out. Looks like they'll be pretty average while that is being determined.

[MR. CHICKEN]

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[Gil Dobie]

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You must enjoy watching those fake field goals. Bison lost a lot of players from last year. Some even left to play for Kleiman. I think NDSU will return to relevance before DA BLUE KLUCKERS.

[Gil Dobie]

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The Bison have had down years, but have always comeback. Won 3 in the 1960s, 4 in the 1980s, 1 in 1990 and 9 in FCS.

[Professor Chaos]

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They didn't just lose to UND - they got destroyed. I was mentally prepared for them to lose that game but not the way they did. They were out-coached, out-executed, out-focused, out-efforted, out-everythinged and just flat out quit on top of it all. That's inexcusable and it'll take a while to regain the "just a bad game" benefit of the doubt they lost from those of us who support them.

[POD Knows]

They didn't just lose to UND - they got destroyed. I was mentally prepared for them to lose that game but not the way they did. They were out-coached, out-executed, out-focused, out-efforted, out-everythinged and just flat out quit on top of it all. That's inexcusable and it'll take a while to regain the "just a bad game" benefit of the doubt they lost from those of us who support them.
They are outmanned at every position. Name one Bison skill player that you would take over the guys UND has. Would you take Cam Miller over Tommy S, maybe, but their running backs and receivers are better than NDSU. I would trade both our O line and D line right now with UND. that is a sad statement but it is true.

[MR. CHICKEN]

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[Professor Chaos]

They are outmanned at every position. Name one Bison skill player that you would take over the guys UND has. Would you take Cam Miller over Tommy S, maybe, but their running backs and receivers are better than NDSU. I would trade both our O line and D line right now with UND. that is a sad statement but it is true.
It's tough to say because I think NDSU's coaching staff has botched so many things lately who knows what a competent coaching staff could do with these players. NDSU football used to be better than the sum of its parts whereas now they're worse than the sum of their parts. NDSU has won practically every single head-to-head recruiting battle they have had with UND in recent memory - UND did what NDSU used to do to the Gophers and beat them with players they didn't want (and UND stomped NDSU with those players no less). It all points back to the coaching whether the problem is recruiting, retention, player development, scheme, etc.

[geaux_sioux]

They are outmanned at every position. Name one Bison skill player that you would take over the guys UND has. Would you take Cam Miller over Tommy S, maybe, but their running backs and receivers are better than NDSU. I would trade both our O line and D line right now with UND. that is a sad statement but it is true.

I would take Eli Green and Carson Hegerle

[geaux_sioux]

It's tough to say because I think NDSU's coaching staff has botched so many things lately who knows what a competent coaching staff could do with these players. NDSU football used to be better than the sum of its parts whereas now they're worse than the sum of their parts. NDSU has won practically every single head-to-head recruiting battle they have had with UND in recent memory - UND did what NDSU used to do to the Gophers and beat them with players they didn't want (and UND stomped NDSU with those players no less). It all points back to the coaching whether the problem is recruiting, retention, player development, scheme, etc.

The first time I saw your defense take the field I said to my dad next to me “they aren’t as big as they used to be” and man did that show in the trenches. You guys used to have at least one guy, usually 3 at least, who were mean as hell and would take games over.

[F'N Hawks]

Speaking of Hegerle, he would look really good in UND’s offense.

[JacksFan40]

It's tough to say because I think NDSU's coaching staff has botched so many things lately who knows what a competent coaching staff could do with these players. NDSU football used to be better than the sum of its parts whereas now they're worse than the sum of their parts. NDSU has won practically every single head-to-head recruiting battle they have had with UND in recent memory - UND did what NDSU used to do to the Gophers and beat them with players they didn't want (and UND stomped NDSU with those players no less). It all points back to the coaching whether the problem is recruiting, retention, player development, scheme, etc.
I'd say that the emergence of SDSU as the premier FCS program and the decline of NDSU happening at the same time is not a coincidence either. NDSU typically got whoever they wanted in this region, as you mentioned, after the P5 schools got who they wanted and sometimes they'd beat the P5 schools for some recruits. SDSU was left with whatever they could get. Now SDSU is getting whoever they want and is directly competing with NDSU for recruits, and now winning a lot of the battles. I think the days of NDSU getting great players from SDSUs backyard (Waege, Ching etc.) is going to become very rare.

[POD Knows]

I would take Eli Green and Carson Hegerle
Has Hegerle even played down this year? I will trade you Green for Belquist right now, no questions asked

[F'N Hawks]

Has Hegerle even played down this year? I will trade you Green for Belquist right now, no questions asked

Haha I bet. Speaking of which, the Bison staff didn’t even talk to him at their camp right after he attended UND’s and showed out. Little things like that are hurting Entz too

[POD Knows]

Haha I bet. Speaking of which, the Bison staff didn’t even talk to him at their camp right after he attended UND’s and showed out. Little things like that are hurting Entz too
Yea, we know all about that, why do you think there is a decent amount of teeth grinding over the coaching regime over here. This current team, under this current leadership, is a ghost of what it once was. We can argue about whether or not it is schemes or "processes" that are the issues here or if it is just poor recruiting and player development. I happen to be of the mind that the quality just isn't there with this player group. Don't have any idea how this decay happened this quickly but it did and it is obvious.

People are clamoring to get the young guys reps now, particularly on D, well, we have seen how our two deep has played on D in some of the blow out games and it has been a train wreck. It is pretty clear that NDSU is going to have to get into a rebuilding mode and if that entails losing the arrogance with respect to drawing players from the portal, then that is what they are gonna have to do.

[Professor Chaos]

I'd say that the emergence of SDSU as the premier FCS program and the decline of NDSU happening at the same time is not a coincidence either. NDSU typically got whoever they wanted in this region, as you mentioned, after the P5 schools got who they wanted and sometimes they'd beat the P5 schools for some recruits. SDSU was left with whatever they could get. Now SDSU is getting whoever they want and is directly competing with NDSU for recruits, and now winning a lot of the battles. I think the days of NDSU getting great players from SDSUs backyard (Waege, Ching etc.) is going to become very rare.
NDSU still wins plenty of recruiting battles with SDSU - I think it's a matter of NDSU losing what they did under Klieman more than SDSU's emergence that's led to NDSU's downfall. Whether it's identifying and recruiting talent, retaining talent, or developing it their downfall is mainly self-inflicted IMO. I know not every coach is going to be at Klieman's level and it's also a lot harder than most of us acknowledge to stay at the level NDSU was at for so long but we're seeing real-life proof of the higher you rise the harder you fall.

[Gil Dobie]

Yea, we know all about that, why do you think there is a decent amount of teeth grinding over the coaching regime over here. This current team, under this current leadership, is a ghost of what it once was. We can argue about whether or not it is schemes or "processes" that are the issues here or if it is just poor recruiting and player development. I happen to be of the mind that the quality just isn't there with this player group. Don't have any idea how this decay happened this quickly but it did and it is obvious.

People are clamoring to get the young guys reps now, particularly on D, well, we have seen how our two deep has played on D in some of the blow out games and it has been a train wreck. It is pretty clear that NDSU is going to have to get into a rebuilding mode and if that entails losing the arrogance with respect to drawing players from the portal, then that is what they are gonna have to do.

Didn't Bohl have a plane, and traveled the state looking at recruits?

[JSUSoutherner]

Lol

[POD Knows]

Lol
Like is said, we should be bad enough now to move up to FBS, it seemed to work for you guys

[kdinva]

Giving guys an extra year due to covid was dumb

THIS right here, too many 24 and 25 year olds still playing (except in Lex Vegas)

[geaux_sioux]

Has Hegerle even played down this year? I will trade you Green for Belquist right now, no questions asked

I trust that if there’s a position that your meathead coaches don’t really understand it’s wr. I’d take both guys and put them in our system and watch them flourish. Maybe. I mean we did just have a guy who wasn’t playing much for us transfer to sdsu and he plays more there than he did for us. Sometimes guys just need a fresh opportunity. Carson and Eli can portal their way over here any time.

[JacksFan40]

THIS right here, too many 24 and 25 year olds still playing (except in Lex Vegas)
We have a bunch of 6th year seniors on our team, a big reason why we are so good, so I am alright with it. Next season should be the last season with players still using the extra COVID season.

[POD Knows]

I trust that if there’s a position that your meathead coaches don’t really understand it’s wr. I’d take both guys and put them in our system and watch them flourish. Maybe. I mean we did just have a guy who wasn’t playing much for us transfer to sdsu and he plays more there than he did for us. Sometimes guys just need a fresh opportunity. Carson and Eli can portal their way over here any time.
They don’t understand that position and they are completely incapable of getting RBs involved in the passing game. Your OC is LIGHT YEARS better than what NDSU has at the present time. I would love to see a graphic that shows where the Bison throw the ball. They completely ignore the field between the hash marks. It is a mystery to me as other teams just destroy us with slants and other things in that area.

[MR. CHICKEN]

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[Gil Dobie]

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Must have switched to the Blue Hens feed bags.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

We have a bunch of 6th year seniors on our team, a big reason why we are so good, so I am alright with it. Next season should be the last season with players still using the extra COVID season.


The Jacks 6th year guys are pretty darn good, NDSU's are not.

Jacks have a nice run going here. W/O a large number of injuries to key players, they are easily going 15-0 this year. Enjoy it.

[JSUSoutherner]

This thread sure ended quickly after NDSU dismantled an OVC team.

[Gil Dobie]

This thread sure ended quickly after NDSU dismantled an OVC team.

Still looking at a possible 3-5 loss season.

[Chalupa Batman]

This thread sure ended quickly after NDSU dismantled an OVC team.

Don't worry, it will pick up again on November 4 at about 3:30 CST.

[MR. CHICKEN]

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[Chalupa Batman]

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I'm a little more optimistic about the last two games (home against SIU and @ UNI) then other Bison fans, I like our chances to win both. Though I wouldn't be surprised to see us lose one of them, but would be surprised if we lost both.

But I am not at all optimistic about the Marker game. If Stig was still coaching we'd lose by about the same score we lost in Frisco. With Rogers coaching he might make us wish FCS had a mercy rule.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I'm a little more optimistic about the last two games (home against SIU and @ UNI) then other Bison fans, I like our chances to win both. Though I wouldn't be surprised to see us lose one of them, but would be surprised if we lost both.

But I am not at all optimistic about the Marker game. If Stig was still coaching we'd lose by about the same score we lost in Frisco. With Rogers coaching he might make us wish FCS had a mercy rule.


I was down there in '07 when the Bison were heavily favored and got beat. Bison can win but it is highly unlikely. SDSU has beaten NDSU when the Bison have been favored so maybe the Bison can return the favor.

This Bison is the least talented team since probably the late 2000s.

[bonarae]

I'm expecting a little closer score than a beatdown. Maybe 10-17 points. But Jacks have the upper hand for this season.

[nodak651]

They don’t understand that position and they are completely incapable of getting RBs involved in the passing game. Your OC is LIGHT YEARS better than what NDSU has at the present time. I would love to see a graphic that shows where the Bison throw the ball. They completely ignore the field between the hash marks. It is a mystery to me as other teams just destroy us with slants and other things in that area.
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[Professor Chaos]

I'm expecting a little closer score than a beatdown. Maybe 10-17 points. But Jacks have the upper hand for this season.
You'd think so but both times this year that they've been punched in the mouth (by lesser teams than SDSU) they've folded so I have very little confidence they've got the heart/toughness to hang with a team like SDSU on the road once they face some adversity.

[POD Knows]

3312833127Thanks for providing this. I am honestly surprised at the number of throws between the numbers. I stand corrected. I wonder how this ration would compare to other offenses.

[F'N Hawks]

Thanks for providing this. I am honestly surprised at the number of throws between the numbers. I stand corrected. I wonder how this ration would compare to other offenses.

Seemed like against UND they were all outside the hashes. Had to do with scrambling too though

[POD Knows]

Seemed like against UND they were all outside the hashes. Had to do with scrambling too thoughThey do throw more passes outside the numbers by a decent margin but I was surprised it was this close. Used to run seam routes with the TE's and I cant remember the last time we did that, used to run middle screens, haven't seen that for a while either. I would have bet money that the margin on throws outside the numbers were about a 3 to 1 ratio, I guess that is why I don't gamble much. :D

[Ivytalk]

They do throw more passes outside the numbers by a decent margin but I was surprised it was this close. Used to run seam routes with the TE's and I cant remember the last time we did that, used to run middle screens, haven't seen that for a while either. I would have bet money that the margin on throws outside the numbers were about a 3 to 1 ratio, I guess that is why I don't gamble much. :D
Where is Cult of Snorty? Or should I ask, who was Snorty? Or should I ask, what did Snorty do for fun?xsmiley_wix

[dewey]

They do throw more passes outside the numbers by a decent margin but I was surprised it was this close. Used to run seam routes with the TE's and I cant remember the last time we did that, used to run middle screens, haven't seen that for a while either. I would have bet money that the margin on throws outside the numbers were about a 3 to 1 ratio, I guess that is why I don't gamble much. :D

Those middle screens to DJ McNorton in 2010, 2011 and maybe 2012 were beautiful.

Dewey

[POD Knows]

Those middle screens to DJ McNorton in 2010, 2011 and maybe 2012 were beautiful.

Dewey
Have we thrown one of those since then, we have had a bunch of good RB's and good O lines that could pull that off. It is a mystery. I have seen teams run screen against us with success.

[bobcathpdevil56]

Have we thrown one of those since then, we have had a bunch of good RB's and good D lines that could pull that off. It is a mystery. I have seen teams run screen against us with success.

Damn the Bizon were good if they had D linemen running screens for them. 😉😉

[POD Knows]

Damn the Bizon were good if they had D linemen running screens for them. 
****. Fixed it.

[BlackNGoldR3v0lut10n]

Wofford and A Citadel have entered the chat.

FYP

[BlackNGoldR3v0lut10n]

Are NDSU's troubles even comparable to ETSU's, at least in football? Dartmouth is probably joining the mix, but that's too early to tell for our Ivy comparant?

ETSU hired Randy Sanders back in 2017 who I felt was an amazing hire. He knew what a championship-level football team at the college level looks like. Four seasons in, Sanders got ETSU two SoCon titles (the 2018 title was ETSU's first SoCon FB title in school history). I would submit to you that had Sanders not retired, ETSU would be in the national title conversation today. This ETSU fan would LOVE to have the difficulties NDSU is having.

[Bisonoline]

Where is Cult of Snorty? Or should I ask, who was Snorty? Or should I ask, what did Snorty do for fun?xsmiley_wix

Snorty is the Bison Mascot, Logo or Moniker. He was invented by Pete Lana who was a wide receiver that played in the very late 60s and very early 70s.


Picture of Original Snorty

https://i.imgur.com/z2edIce.jpg

[uni88]

Where is Cult of Snorty? Or should I ask, who was Snorty? Or should I ask, what did Snorty do for fun?xsmiley_wix

His name is Snorty, what do you think he does for fun?

https://i.imgur.com/OVbiByz.jpeg

[Chalupa Batman]

His name is Snorty, what do you think he does for fun?

https://i.imgur.com/OVbiByz.jpeg

He's never done cocaine but he's smelled it a couple of times.