Everything The BCS Didn't Want?

[UNHWildCats]

Boy what a mess we might have.

West Virginia losing, Missouri tied in the 3rd, if they both lose who joins Ohio State in the BCS title game?

How bout Appy? Let them go beat Ohio State and let them Michigan fans a chance to laugh back at Ohio State fans :p

My guess is if they both lose, LSU or Virginia Tech makes the jump up... both have two losses and Virginia Tech had a slight advantge on LSU this week, how will LSU fans feel if they both finish 11-2 and Virginia Tech just edges them out even though LSU clobbered them this season?

[Zoo]

You just posted alot of likely scenarios, but what about Georgia at #4?

Won't they play Ohio State in the National Championship game then if both Missouri and West Virginia lose?

[UNHWildCats]

I dunno, I think wins in conference Championships for LSU and Vir Tech could jump them. Georgia is possible, but no lock. Voters may shy away from a team whou couldnt even get to its Conf Championship game.

[Peems]

maybe USC. All I know is that I don't want to watch Ohio St. but it looks like I will

[mcveyrl]

This is great!!!

[NDSUFREAK]

PITT WINS!!!

[blackfordpu]

This is amazing and you are right, the BCS did not want this.

If both teams lose, which it looks like WVU is going to, it will be a real guessing game as to who goes to the BCS NC.

Ohio State in no way deserves to play in the title game. Horrible SOS, lost a game late and just wasn't that impressive all year.

Georgia didn't even win its division or go to the conference title game. If you don't win your conference how can you play for the NC?

Kansas, same situation as Georgia.

Virginia Tech did win its conference so they would be an ok choice, however how could you have them in above LSU who beat the hell out of them earlier this season?

LSU looks to have the inside track should this scenerio play out but they are a two loss team. When is the last time a two loss team played for the title? Voters would hate to have to put them in but they seem to be the lesser of the evils.

USC, Oklahoma and Florida are way to low in the polls. How can you have teams ranked eight, nine and ten in the title game?

Could an undefeated Hawaii get in? They have as much a claim as any of the teams listed above.

If there was ever a year to discredit the BCS this is it. There are a bunch of three and four teams out there but no clear one and two.

[lambertjr]

Imagine the chaos if Hawai'i wins and Mizzo loses?

Missouri is down by 14 right now.
What if Hawai'i blows out Washington by 30 or 40?

[NDSUFREAK]

Just throw ASU in there :D

GO DEVILS!

[Zoo]

The BCS must be bawiling their eyes out right now. xlolx

LOL BCS.

[T-Dog]

Screw it, put Hawaii in the BCS Title game. All they've done is WIN EVERY GAME THEY'VE PLAYED. That's something everyone else is having a difficult time grasping.

[FCS Preview]

Georgia didn't even win its division or go to the conference title game. If you don't win your conference how can you play for the NC?

Kansas, same situation as Georgia.

LSU looks to have the inside track should this scenerio play out but they are a two loss team. When is the last time a two loss team played for the title?

USC, Oklahoma and Florida are way to low in the polls. How can you have teams ranked eight, nine and ten in the title game?

On the other hand, we have had a playoff system and we see:

Southern Illinois (12-1)
Appalachian State (11-2)
Richmond (11-2)
Delaware (10-3)

Not ony will a 2-loss team be playing for the NC, but we could have a 3-loss team in there.

And while it might not be teams ranked 8,9,10 it is teams ranked 4,5,6,13.

And of course, with Delaware and SIU in one bracket, we will have a team that didn't even win it's conference, playing for the NC.

We are so used to having to have perfect or near-perfect teams in the FBS level, what is so bad about an imperfect team? Isn't that what we love about the playoffs?

[UNHWildCats]

im sorry but games against Chuck South and Northern Colorado???? Hawaii doesnt belong in a BCS game let alone the title game

[lambertjr]

I know it's not popular but I agree.....If Hawai'i wins tonight, they are the only undefeated team in D1.
They've earned a shot in that game.

[UNHWildCats]

I know it's not popular but I agree.....If Hawai'i wins tonight, they are the only undefeated team in D1.
They've earned a shot in that game.
To me this is right there with San Diego last year.... teams shouldnt be rewarded with crappy schedules.

[Peems]

I wish Hawaii would get a chance, but they won't because they never won a NC 40 years ago and that is all that matters.

[Pards Rule]

I just dont want Ohio State in it!

[lambertjr]

im sorry but games against Chuck South and Northern Colorado???? Hawaii doesnt belong in a BCS game let alone the title game

They had Michigan on the schedule until the Wolverines pulled out.

[Peems]

To me this is right there with San Diego last year.... teams shouldnt be rewarded with crappy schedules.

They tried to schedule USC, but they wouldn't, and Michigan backed out to play...App. St.

I know a lot of us out here in MT complain about OOC scheduling and how hard it is, but Hawaii has it 1,000x times harder

[UNHWildCats]

They had Michigan on the schedule until the Wolverines pulled out.
And that matters why........xrolleyesx

[Pards Rule]

TD Okies..Its over for Mizzou...

[UNHWildCats]

They tried to schedule USC, but they wouldn't, and Michigan backed out to play...App. St.

I know a lot of us out here in MT complain about OOC scheduling and how hard it is, but Hawaii has it 1,000x times harder
I understand its hard to schedule games, but you still shouldnt reward teams with mediocre at best schedules.....

[Pards Rule]

So who should play for the title?

[lambertjr]

I wish Hawaii would get a chance, but they won't because they never won a NC 40 years ago and that is all that matters.

The golden rule is that no school from the MAC,WAC,Sun Belt,C-USA,MWC or anywhere other than the "big time conf.'s" will EVER play for the NC.

[UNHWildCats]

Hawaii still has to win a game tonite anyway to even lock up a BCS at large bid

[lambertjr]

And that matters why........xrolleyesx
You questioned their schedule and I was just putting the info out there that Hawai'i had a stronger schedule until they got hosed by the "mighty big 10"
Michigan St. did the same thing to them a year ago..........And Texas did it 3 years ago.

[UNHWildCats]

You questioned their schedule and I was just putting the info out there that Hawai'i had a stronger schedule until they got hosed by the "mighty big 10"
Michigan St. did the same thing to them a year ago.
again that matters why?

Strength of schedule doesnt matter who you were supposed to play, it matters who you did play.

[lambertjr]

Hawaii still has to win a game tonite anyway to even lock up a BCS at large bid
Very true!

[NDSUFREAK]

Lets have a FIESTA for ASU :)

[Peems]

ESPN is stating that it will be Ohio St. versus LSU

[Pards Rule]

Brent says OSU-Hawaii...

[blackfordpu]

again that matters why?

Strength of schedule doesnt matter who you were supposed to play, it matters who you did play.

It has to mean something when you try to schedule the big boys but they are too scared to play you.

They played the schedule that they were given and to this point have won every game, most of them in convincing fashion. Should they win tonight they should get a shot, just like Boise last year.

[NDSUFREAK]

ESPN is stating that it will be Ohio St. versus LSU

I can believe OSU because they haven't had a chance to lose in 2 weeks....but LSU? I just don't see them as Championship material. How many times can they be saved in a year?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

What are the chances of a split NC title game if OSU loses to LSU? I would think a 12-1 Kansas or 11-2 USC should also have a say depending on how it turns out.

[UNHWildCats]

It has to mean something when you try to schedule the big boys but they are too scared to play you.
ok, they get credit for trying to play them schools, but it doesnt matter when it comes to playing for a National Championship*

[UNHWildCats]

What are the chances of a split NC title game if OSU loses to LSU? I would think a 12-1 Kansas or 11-2 USC should also have a say depending on how it turns out.
Very possible.

[lambertjr]

again that matters why?

Strength of schedule doesnt matter who you were supposed to play, it matters who you did play.
They've beaten everyone they've played. It's not Hawai'i's fault if their opponents aren't all in the top 25.

[blackfordpu]

On the other hand, we have had a playoff system and we see:

Southern Illinois (12-1)
Appalachian State (11-2)
Richmond (11-2)
Delaware (10-3)

Not ony will a 2-loss team be playing for the NC, but we could have a 3-loss team in there.

And while it might not be teams ranked 8,9,10 it is teams ranked 4,5,6,13.

And of course, with Delaware and SIU in one bracket, we will have a team that didn't even win it's conference, playing for the NC.

We are so used to having to have perfect or near-perfect teams in the FBS level, what is so bad about an imperfect team? Isn't that what we love about the playoffs?

We have a playoff system so it is all decided on the field. There is a difference between earning your spot and having it handed to you by biased computers/voters. Money is a powerful thing, just ask Hawaii.

[UNHWildCats]

They've beaten everyone they've played. It's not Hawai'i's fault if their opponents aren't all in the top 25.
Ahhh I just fiugured this out,,,, i need to look at Locations more often,.,, So where in Hawai'i are you from?

[TwinTownBisonFan]

Real quick, ESPN said Les Miles was going to Michigan this morning... so let's not assume New England's favorite network is the bastion of accuracy ;)

As for those dogging Hawai'i for SoS... let's look at MAC champion Ohio State shall we??? Youngstown? Akron? hardly a stellar OOC sked. They played Illinois and Michigan... that's really it.

[lambertjr]

"Money is a powerful thing, just ask Hawaii."
There it is!!

[UNHWildCats]

Real quick, ESPN said Les Miles was going to Michigan this morning... so let's not assume New England's favorite network is the bastion of accuracy ;)

As for those dogging Hawai'i for SoS... let's look at MAC champion Ohio State shall we??? Youngstown? Akron? hardly a stellar OOC sked. They played Illinois and Michigan... that's really it.
Im not convinced Miles isnt going to Michigan, he simply could have seen his players were distracted and wanted to focus them on the game....

[blackfordpu]

Real quick, ESPN said Les Miles was going to Michigan this morning... so let's not assume New England's favorite network is the bastion of accuracy ;)

As for those dogging Hawai'i for SoS... let's look at MAC champion Ohio State shall we??? Youngstown? Akron? hardly a stellar OOC sked. They played Illinois and Michigan... that's really it.

YES, THANK YOU!!!

Ohio State doesn't deserve to be there any more than Hawaii does.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

UNH, i honestly think the press coverage changed everything on this, i think miles was gone... the press broke at a TERRIBLE time, and may have forced his hand to stay. boy wouldn't that be something

[lambertjr]

Ahhh I just fiugured this out,,,, i need to look at Locations more often,.,, So where in Hawai'i are you from?

Kanehoe. It's on Oahu, on the other side of Diamond Head.xpeacex

[Peems]

Kirk Herbstreit is a dumbarse and I can't believe that LSU would let that guy influence what they do. The last thing I want to watch is LSU vs. Ohio St. what a boring boring boring championship game.

[UNHWildCats]

Kanehoe. It's on Oahu, on the other side of Diamond Head.xpeacex
got a picture? xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xsmiley_wix

[TwinTownBisonFan]

Kirk Herbstreit is a dumbarse and I can't believe that LSU would let that guy influence what they do. The last thing I want to watch is LSU vs. Ohio St. what a boring boring boring championship game.

agreed...

I like the idea of Hawai'i-OSU. I dont like the bucks, but they are #3

[lambertjr]

Kirk Herbstreit is a dumbarse and I can't believe that LSU would let that guy influence what they do. The last thing I want to watch is LSU vs. Ohio St. what a boring boring boring championship game.

I'm a huge LSU fan and would love to see them in the NC but I have no idea how this is going to work out.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

As much as I hate to admit it xoopsx, I think Georgia deserves it. The SEC championship is a higher prize than the BCS national championship (come on, you know it's true). So what if they did not win it. Hawaii will not get it...Kansas has more of a shot than Hawaii does.

How many different number ones has the FBS had this year, anyways?

[blackfordpu]

As much as I hate to admit it xoopsx, I think Georgia deserves it. The SEC championship is a higher prize than the BCS national championship (come on, you know it's true). So what if they did not win it. Hawaii will not get it...Kansas has more of a shot than Hawaii does.

How many different number ones has the FBS had this year, anyways?

If you don't win your conference how can you play for the BCS NC? How is that justifiable?

[UNHWildCats]

If you don't win your conference how can you play for the BCS NC? How is that justifiable?
its not unprecedented though

[blackfordpu]

its not unprecedented though

Doesn't make it right.

[lambertjr]

got a picture? xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xsmiley_wix

http://www.city-data.com/picfilesc/picc17384.php

I hope that worked.

[blackfordpu]

http://www.city-data.com/picfilesc/picc17384.php

I hope that worked.

I hate to get off topic but very nice.:)

[UNHWildCats]

http://www.city-data.com/picfilesc/picc17384.php

I hope that worked.

LMAO!

Not of the place.... of you xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xwhistlex xwhistlex xwhistlex xwhistlex xreadx xreadx

[TwinTownBisonFan]

http://www.city-data.com/picfilesc/picc17384.php

I hope that worked.

what a hell hole :D

i much prefer the 7 degree high we had in MN this week xrotatehx

[TwinTownBisonFan]

u dub 7-0 on Hawai'i... all the arguing could be moot

[Peems]

UW just scored but it is under review.

[Peems]

u dub 7-0 on Hawai'i... all the arguing could be moot

Do you really think that Hawai'i won't score?

[blackfordpu]

u dub 7-0 on Hawai'i... all the arguing could be moot

Kind of premature isn't that? It is just four minutes into the first quarter and Hawaii hasn't even gotten the ball yet.

[TheValleyRaider]

Don't discount Oklahoma. They'd have knocked off the #1 team, which could easily vaunt them over teams like Georgia and Ohio State who haven't been playing. I'm guessing right now the game will be Ohio State - Oklahoma. Watch the Sooners get a big jump in the rankings after tonight

[TwinTownBisonFan]

my point is that all the talk about hawai'i might have been premature, they still have to win, and i think a lot of people look past that... like me

[lambertjr]

Damn! UW just got another TD.

[UNHWildCats]

another Washington TD

[Pards Rule]

Holy *****....may be another undefeated going down

[Peems]

Go Rainbow Warriors!

[UMass922]

The last thing I want to watch is LSU vs. Ohio St. what a boring boring boring championship game.

Agreed. Getting a cardboard championship game like that will be especially disappointing in light of all the surprises, upstarts, and new faces that seemed, at one point or another this season, to have a legitimate shot at playing for the title: Missouri, Kansas, West Virginia, South Florida, Boston College, Oregon, Arizona State . . . Couldn't just one of those teams not have faltered? It was really looking like we were going to get at least one different flavor, possibly two, playing for the BCS title--but instead we're going to get vanilla. LSU, Ohio State, Oklahoma . . . who cares? It's one thing when you have two "traditional" teams that are great, dominant, and fun to watch--like Texas and USC a couple years ago--but all of these teams this year are very very flawed, and it's hard to get excited about any of them.

[dbackjon]

For those of you dissing Ohio State, they have as good as resume as ANY other team. All of the top twelve or so teams have MAJOR blemishes. Ohio State is just as deserving as any Conference Champion.

And for those dissing the Big 10, the Big 10 is the only BCS conference with a WINNING record against other BCS teams. 9-4. Others have .500 or losing records against other BCS conferences.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

For those of you dissing Ohio State, they have as good as resume as ANY other team. All of the top twelve or so teams have MAJOR blemishes. Ohio State is just as deserving as any Conference Champion.

And for those dissing the Big 10, the Big 10 is the only BCS conference with a WINNING record against other BCS teams. 9-4. Others have .500 or losing records against other BCS conferences.

I think a lot of fans just don't want to see them or LSU or Oklahoma... It's like not wanting to see the Yankees or Red Sox... they are the teams that the media fixates on... they are the teams that win every year... and thus when poll voters get lazy they just pick OSU

I disagree with your assessment of OSU on top of that. The Bucks played nobody in their OOC, and their notable Big Ten games were Michigan and Illinois, and they LOST to the Illini. I think the B10 was mediocre at best this season. Add to that, Youngstown, Akron, and Minnesota (who were no better than a MAC team this year) really there is ONE quality win on their resume.

[Peems]

For those of you dissing Ohio State, they have as good as resume as ANY other team. All of the top twelve or so teams have MAJOR blemishes. Ohio State is just as deserving as any Conference Champion.

And for those dissing the Big 10, the Big 10 is the only BCS conference with a WINNING record against other BCS teams. 9-4. Others have .500 or losing records against other BCS conferences.

It's not about their resume, it's just that it will be so BORING to watch LSU/Ohio St. I WANT EXCITEMENT!!!!xnodx

[AZBison]

PITT WINS!!!

You are my favorite poster on here, NDSU and ASU fan like myself.

I'm not too concerned if we get the fiesta bowl or not, we beat the au MILDcats and had a 10-2 season with a first year head coach, we have most of out offense comming back and as fara defense goes mainly our OL will be leaving and just about anything will be an improvement upon our OL.

2008, ASU v. UA for the Pac 10 title!!!!!

[AZBison]

For those of you dissing Ohio State, they have as good as resume as ANY other team. All of the top twelve or so teams have MAJOR blemishes. Ohio State is just as deserving as any Conference Champion.

And for those dissing the Big 10, the Big 10 is the only BCS conference with a WINNING record against other BCS teams. 9-4. Others have .500 or losing records against other BCS conferences.

What exactly are ASU's major blemishes? losses to @ #5 Oregon (healthy Dixon) and #12 USC.
Just terrible losses, major blemishes [/sarcasm].

[FCS Preview]

Put the country's only D-I undefeated team in the NC game...

[813Jag]

ESPN is stating that it will be Ohio St. versus LSU
This could be a tryout game for Les Miles, if he can beat Ohio State, he'd already be ahead of Lloyd Carr. I don't believe he's staying, Nick Saban has done the same thing twice, alot of coaches do that. We'll see what happens this month.

I can believe OSU because they haven't had a chance to lose in 2 weeks....but LSU? I just don't see them as Championship material. How many times can they be saved in a year?
LSU's had alot of close games, but so did Florida last season and Ohio State in 2002.

[Ivytalk]

Agreed. Getting a cardboard championship game like that will be especially disappointing in light of all the surprises, upstarts, and new faces that seemed, at one point or another this season, to have a legitimate shot at playing for the title: Missouri, Kansas, West Virginia, South Florida, Boston College, Oregon, Arizona State . . . Couldn't just one of those teams not have faltered? It was really looking like we were going to get at least one different flavor, possibly two, playing for the BCS title--but instead we're going to get vanilla. LSU, Ohio State, Oklahoma . . . who cares? It's one thing when you have two "traditional" teams that are great, dominant, and fun to watch--like Texas and USC a couple years ago--but all of these teams this year are very very flawed, and it's hard to get excited about any of them.

Very well and succinctly put!xthumbsupx I refuse to watch Ohio State in a championship game again. What college hoops games are on that day?:p

[Pards Rule]

OSU got handed the NC in 2003 with that bogus pass interference call.

[JohnStOnge]

OSU got handed the NC in 2003 with that bogus pass interference call.

Every time I see reference to that I have to bring up the point that a bad officials' call helped Miami get into ovetime to begin with. In fact it was two errors on one play (a missed call and a bad call). It was when Ohio State had its last third down of regulation. First of all there were two instances of obvious holding on the receiver during the play. On one, the Miami defender pulled the guy's shirt about three feet out...real obvious.

Second, the guy caught the ball in bounds but the officials called it out of bounds incomplete. In todays' "instant replay" world it's very likely that the call on the field would've been overturned and Ohio State would've kept the ball. In any case, had the officials either called the obvious holding (or the less obvious second instance of it that occurred on the same play...a smaller shirt tug) or made the correct call on the complete pass for the first down, it would've been first down Ohio State with 2 minutes left and Miami having one timeout left. You get the picture.

So, no, the officials didn't win the game for Ohio State. There were bad calls both ways. Ohio State outplayed Miami in that game; physically beat the Canes up. The Buckeys deserved to win and had they lost in overtime it would've been because the officials gave Miami the chance to tie the game in regulation.

[lambertjr]

OMG.....Please don't dig up this dead horse.

[brownbear]

This year is very interesting. In past years, when the BCS had to pick a second team to be in the NC, two conferences are pleased by the decision that is made, while usually one conference is angry at the decision because they feel they have a team that is good enough to be in the championship game, and they got a bad deal. Here are some of those:

2006 - Florida over Michigan (obviously Florida was a much better team, but there was still controversy)

2004 - USC and Oklahoma get in, Auburn is completely left out mainly because of the preseason rankings that put USC no. 1 and OU no. 2, and Auburn was much lower ranked to start, although this couldn't be avoided without a playoff

2003 - Oklahoma and LSU get in, USC left out, USC basically claims title by beating Michigan in the Rose Bowl

2001 - Nebraska in instead of Oregon, even though Nebraska get killed by Colorado in the last game in the season and missed the Big 12 title game while Oregon won the Pac-10

This year, something great will happen. It won't just be one lonely team screaming that they should play for the national title, but instead you have at least four conferences will be angry. If Hawaii's in, you'll get five angry conferences. Finally, you'll have more pissed off teams than happy teams. I am really excited to see who they pick, and how the BCS chairman can back up the BCS tonight on TV during the selection show.

[Pards Rule]

OMG.....Please don't dig up this dead horse.

Haha...I wont even start with Clarett's eligibility.

[CopperCat]

Dammit Missouri!!!!! Now I might have to watch Ohio State instead of you guys, which = B O R I N G. They will have made the BCS title game simply by proxy. I'm thinking that this might be the year that there are osme legitimately crappy BCS games simply based on the fact that the BCS counts on having at least one undefeated team from a BCS conference. And lo and behold, the only undefeated team left is Hawaii.........

College presidents of the world, WE NEED A FRICKIN' PLAYOFF SYSTEM!!!!!!

[dbackjon]

College presidents of the world, WE NEED A FRICKIN' PLAYOFF SYSTEM!!!!!!


And that says it all.


If LSU, WVU, Missouri, etc wanted to be in the MNC game, then it was simple - win!

[CopperCat]

And that says it all.


If LSU, WVU, Missouri, etc wanted to be in the MNC game, then it was simple - win!

No, it's not that simple. Does Ohio State have to play a championship game for the Big 10 title? No, they don't. How about USC? Nope. If some teams risk losing their shot at the big game because of a CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME then I say there is a problem if everybody else has played their conference games out and gets into the NC game simply by proxy.

And not to mention that people think so highly of USC and OSU simply because they are USC and OSU. It sickens me.

[dbackjon]

No, it's not that simple. Does Ohio State have to play a championship game for the Big 10 title? No, they don't. How about USC? Nope. If some teams risk losing their shot at the big game because of a CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME then I say there is a problem if everybody else has played their conference games out and gets into the NC game simply by proxy.

And not to mention that people think so highly of USC and OSU simply because they are USC and OSU. It sickens me.

If WVU had won yesterday, would you be bitching because they don't play a conference championship game, either?

Look, the Big 12, ACC, and SEC expanded to 12 teams so they could reap the financials rewards of having a conference championship game. In the process, they have broken up other conferences. Now that greed is coming back to BITE them on their asses, and I am laughing at them. The ACC didn't need 12 teams. But, they lied/swindled/etc to get BC in order to get the 12 teams needed for the money-making conference championship game.

There is no requirement that these conferences play a championship game. It comes down to money. Sucks for their short-sightedness.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

If you don't win your conference how can you play for the BCS NC? How is that justifiable?

As long as you are going to use that logic..."how can you be in the BCS NC if you have even lost a single game?"

[JohnStOnge]

Look, the Big 12, ACC, and SEC expanded to 12 teams so they could reap the financials rewards of having a conference championship game. In the process, they have broken up other conferences. Now that greed is coming back to BITE them on their asses, and I am laughing at them.

It really hasn't bitten the SEC. In fact, I think it's helped them. Their champs have been to and won three BCS championship games. They've got more BCS championships than any other league. The Big 12 has two, and I don't think any other league has more than one. I don't know if either LSU in 2003 or Florida last season would've made it in without the SEC championship game to add to their resume.

Right now, it looks like the SEC might get to yet another one. And if LSU does get in it'll be another case where they may have the opportunity to play in the SEC championship game to thank for it.

[GeauxLions94]

Kirk Herbstreit is a dumbarse and I can't believe that LSU would let that guy influence what they do. The last thing I want to watch is LSU vs. Ohio St. what a boring boring boring championship game.

Just like Florida vs. Ohio State last year.

[blackfordpu]

Just like Florida vs. Ohio State last year.

I have a feeling it will be the same result.

[Peems]

Just like Florida vs. Ohio State last year.

exactly, that game was beyond boring, especially after the Boise St. game

[brownbear]

exactly, that game was beyond boring, especially after the Boise St. game

I fell asleep at halftime during the OSU-UF game

[CopperCat]

I would probably rather see VT than OSU in the NC game, simply because VT played their way up the standings. Oklahoma merits some discussion as well, as they beat the #1 TEAM IN THE COUNTRY. And guess what, all the homer morons who vote in the polls don't care about VT and Oklahoma because they are obsessed with LSU and OSU. VT and OU don't have the quite the prestige as of late that LSU and OSU do (or so we are told by sports media) and thus they get screwed. Say whatever you want about WVU and Missouri playing themselves out of the NC game. I say there are other teams that played their way IN to the NC game, but got hosed simply because of some very homerish and selfish people.xnonono2x

[dbackjon]

I would probably rather see VT than OSU in the NC game, simply because VT played their way up the standings. Oklahoma merits some discussion as well, as they beat the #1 TEAM IN THE COUNTRY. And guess what, all the homer morons who vote in the polls don't care about VT and Oklahoma because they are obsessed with LSU and OSU. VT and OU don't have the quite the prestige as of late that LSU and OSU do (or so we are told by sports media) and thus they get screwed. Say whatever you want about WVU and Missouri playing themselves out of the NC game. I say there are other teams that played their way IN to the NC game, but got hosed simply because of some very homerish and selfish people.xnonono2x


So you would want a rematch between LSU and VT? The 48-7 thrashing that LSU put on VT wasn't enough?

And Oklahoma has gotten it's share of homerish votes over the years - and losing to Colorado sealed their fate - losing is one thing, losing to a bad team like Colorado, or Stanford is a killer.

[TheValleyRaider]

I would probably rather see VT than OSU in the NC game, simply because VT played their way up the standings. Oklahoma merits some discussion as well, as they beat the #1 TEAM IN THE COUNTRY. And guess what, all the homer morons who vote in the polls don't care about VT and Oklahoma because they are obsessed with LSU and OSU. VT and OU don't have the quite the prestige as of late that LSU and OSU do (or so we are told by sports media) and thus they get screwed. Say whatever you want about WVU and Missouri playing themselves out of the NC game. I say there are other teams that played their way IN to the NC game, but got hosed simply because of some very homerish and selfish people.xnonono2x

Yeah, not really buying Oklahoma, of all teams, getting screwed by an unsympathetic or biased group of voters. They beat either TT or Colorado, and they're playing tOSU. VT maybe, although as pointed out, the xasswhipx they took down in Baton Rouge looks pretty bad.