2023-2024 Men's Basketball Thread

[bonarae]

Some teams have released schedules for the upcoming season by now...

Harvard:

Highlight: vs Indiana Hoosiers at the Pacers' homecourt in Indianapolis on November 26 (first in 51 seasons!)
Others:
UMass Boston (D-III)
at Rice
3 consecutive Massachusetts games: Northeastern, UMass Amherst and BC
'Gate
American U
Ramblers (H&H; 1st game back before COVID)
Army
Holy Cross
Iona
UAlbany (last OOC, January 2, 2024)

Last pre-Ivy Madness game: March 9 at Dartmouth (OVC will punch the first men's Big Dance ticket on the same day, in Evansville.)

Ivy Madness: March 15-17 at Columbia

[ngineer]

Lehigh will open the season at UNC-Chapel Hill on November 12. The Tar Heels were Lehigh’s biggest cheerleader back in 2012 at Greensboro Colosseum in the Mountain Hawks’ upset of Duke making it feel like a home game. Should be interesting.

[ngineer]

Correction. Lehigh will be opening up at home versus Cornell on 11/6, and then go on the road, not at UNC-Chapel Hill, but two days sooner at Penn State. Then, on to take on the Tar Heels. A couple of good measuring sticks to start the season.

[bonarae]

Harvard blitzes by the UMass Boston Beacons 78-50 to open our 2023-24 season.

[McNeese75]

https://mcneesesports.com/news/2023/11/6/mens-basketball-bayou-bandits-wrangle-the-rams-76-65.aspx

The Will Wade era has begun at McNeese. Even though he was not on the court the teams performance spoke for itself. The first time McNeese has opened with a win over a Div I team since 1995.

[bonarae]

Harvard wins at Rice, 89-76. Back to Boston to face Northeastern at Lavietes on Tuesday.

[bonarae]

Harvard routs Northeastern 80-56 last Tuesday. At UMass Amherst tonight, 7 PM EST.

[McNeese75]

McNeese is 4-0 for the first time since 1971, lol. Now, three of the four have been sub-level teams and the scores were not close. The real challenge begins this week with a road trip to Western Carolina (just beat Notre Dame and Middle Tennessee), Texas State, Louisiana Tech and UAB. We are about to learn a lot more about the Bayou Bandits.

[Laker]

Towson playing Wake Forest on TV tonight. Their colors are black and gold- anyone know why they are wearing light blue?

[bonarae]

Harvard gets through a 4-0 start so far, defeating UMass Amherst on the road in OT, 78-75. At BC tomorrow.

[McNeese75]

McNeese misses a 3 point shot at the buzzer and loses to Western Carolina 74-76 at their place. WC beat Notre Dame and Middle Tennessee previously. Onward to Texas State and Louisiana Tech.

[bonarae]

Harvard lost at BC, 73-64. Colgate in Hamilton, NY on Wednesday before Thanksgiving.

[bonarae]

Harvard beat Colgate on the road 76-70 last Wednesday. Now off to Indy to face the Hoosiers on Sunday.

[ngineer]

Harvard beat Colgate on the road 76-70 last Wednesday. Now off to Indy to face the Hoosiers on Sunday.

That's a good win for the Crimson. Colgate loaded from last year's PL championship. Picked to repeat with Lehigh a distant second.

[ngineer]

Lehigh gave Providence (5-1) a scrappy game tonight, and about as expected, losing 76-64. Lehigh just not big/skilled enough under the board. Cold from trey land in the first half dug a 16 point hole, then climbed back to high single digits the rest of the night, but couldn't get closer. So, despite the (1-5) record, the OOC schedule had been very challenging, but should be favored in three of the remaining four OOC games, with only underdog role against Boston College on 12/21. PL season will start on 1/3 at American.

[bonarae]

Harvard lost to the Hoosiers in the Pacers' arena, 89-76.

[McNeese75]

Harvard lost to the Hoosiers in the Pacers' arena, 89-76.

That is really not a bad loss.

[McNeese75]

McNeese went into UAB last night as a 7 pt underdog. Came away with a dominating 21 pt victory giving the UAB head Coach Kennedy a rare home loss (50-7). Pokes are 6-2 and Will Wade has not made it to courtside yet.


https://mcneesesports.com/news/2023/11/28/mens-basketball-wells-nets-36-as-cowboys-rout-uab-81-60.aspx

[bonarae]

Harvard withstood a rally by American U in the second half and won at home, 80-75. Off to Chicago to face the Ramblers on Saturday.

[bonarae]

Harvard lost big to the Ramblers, 75-53. Army up next at Lavietes on Friday before the finals break.

[JacksFan40]

SDSU beat Wichita State 79-69 in Wichita. Huge win for the guys, seems like they’re starting to put things together.

[dbackjon]

Wednesday NAU got a last second win at ACU

https://twitter.com/NAUBasketball/status/1732602279889359159

[bonarae]

Harvard beats Army 70-64 last Friday night EST. Finals break is on; we will be back on the 21st against Holy Cross.

[dbackjon]

Saturday last second win for NAU over UIW

https://twitter.com/NAUBasketball/status/1733621674090623217

[POD Knows]

NDSU played some team from Oak Hills Christian College from Bemidji, MN. The score was 108 to 14. This “college” has about 100 students. This is a joke and embarrassing and everyone involved with this needs to be publicly flogged

To make matters worse, there is a quality D2 program across the river in Moorhead that these gutless ****s in the Bison BB program refuse to schedule. They are absolutely afraid that they will lose. Pathetic.

[dbackjon]

NDSU played some team from Oak Hills Christian College from Bemidji, MN. The score was 108 to 14. This “college” has about 100 students. This is a joke and embarrassing and everyone involved with this needs to be publicly flogged

To make matters worse, there is a quality D2 program across the river in Moorhead that these gutless ****s in the Bison BB program refuse to schedule. They are absolutely afraid that they will lose. Pathetic.

Game has attracted some national attention, most reactions are similar to yours - why?

[POD Knows]

NDSU played some team from Oak Hills Christian College from Bemidji, MN. The score was 108 to 14. This “college” has about 100 students. This is a joke and embarrassing and everyone involved with this needs to be publicly flogged

To make matters worse, there is a quality D2 program across the river in Moorhead that these gutless ****s in the Bison BB program refuse to schedule. They are absolutely afraid that they will lose. Pathetic.


Game has attracted some national attention, most reactions are similar to yours - why?Are you asking why my reactions to this are negative or why they scheduled this debacle? My reaction to this is simple, games like this are pointless and lazy and the fact that NDSU ignores potentially more competitive games with D2's (not a fan of D2 scheduling but it is what it is) because of FEAR is not a good look for the program

[McNeese75]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1734242274631135743

Tomorrow night. 8-2 McNeese at home vs Southern Miss. Will Wade makes his courtside appearance for the first time in a game. xhurrayx

[dbackjon]

Are you asking why my reactions to this are negative or why they scheduled this debacle? My reaction to this is simple, games like this are pointless and lazy and the fact that NDSU ignores potentially more competitive games with D2's (not a fan of D2 scheduling but it is what it is) because of FEAR is not a good look for the program

People are asking why did this debacle get scheduled.

[McNeese75]

People are asking why did this debacle get scheduled.

McNeese had a similar game on the 5th and won 92-23. The reason given was to fill in the time and avoid having a big gap in the schedule between games. Sounds plausable but still not very entertaining. I have no idea what other possibilites existed for scheduling.

[McNeese75]

#8 on Sports Center


https://fb.watch/oWTwO3ew3O/


The NET Rankings are used by the Selection Committee and updated daily

http://bit.ly/3RkpEzf (http://bit.ly/3RkpEzf)

See #41

[POD Knows]

People are asking why did this debacle get scheduled.
No idea and the explanation from the coaching staff is such weak sauce that I won’t even try and translate it into real language. It is tough for these low/mid major BB programs to get home games but I am sure that instead of this school there would have been a decent D2 they could have scheduled. So far on this there has been no real major fallout for the AD and coach who scheduled this so I guess this will pass. I also think we had to pay that school to come over here to play, which is also a head shaker.

[dbackjon]

NAU with third straight buzz-beater win

https://twitter.com/MarchMadnessMBB/status/1736160887218557260

[McNeese75]

Sunday Mcneese beat ULL 74-72 after having two starters ejected with 10 minutes to go in the game. Pokes are 3-0 over the Sunbelt.
https://mcneesesports.com/news/2023/12/17/mens-basketball-record-crowd-watches-cowboys-rally-for-74-72-win-over-ull.aspx

[ElCid]

Our BB team has been largely abysmal over the years. But we just scored a great win last night over a fairly bad Notre Dame team...by 20...in South Bend. They may be bad this year, but it's always nice to get a win over an ACC team. Almost beat Boston College, in a home game, earlier in the season as well.

[bonarae]

Harvard beats Holy Cross at home 74-72 in our first game back from finals break.

Iona up next on the 30th.

[JacksFan40]

SDSU got swept at the Sun Bowl invitational by Wyoming (78-65) yesterday and Norfolk State (84-65) today.

After the Wichita win I was hoping we’d turned the corner but nope. This team sucks. Zero passion, zero drive, and zero accountability. Bunch of guys only focused on their individual stat-lines and no focus on teamwork. This has gradually gotten worse and worse since Nagy left but it’s finally reached a breaking point.

Henderson needs to be canned and I’m pretty much done caring about this program until that day. He was handed a great situation by Otzelberger and has tanked the program since. With the investments being made into this program we need to expect a quality mid-major program, not fighting with Kansas City in the cellar of one of the worst D1 conferences.

Whoever wins the Summit will get obliterated by one of the 1 seeds.

[bonarae]

Whoever wins the Summit will get obliterated by one of the 1 seeds.

Or get sent to Dayton outright... xrulesx

[ngineer]

Lehigh has one game left in its OOC schedule at Marist on December 30 at 2 pm. Mountain Hawks were picked to be #2 team in the Patriot this year, but currently stands at 2-8. While they have had a tough OOC schedule, there have been too many games that were winnable and they choked in the final minutes. They have actually played a number of power conference schools fairly tough, but then turn around and lose to some teams they should beat. It's like they play up or down to their competition. Main problem I see is their lack of a good sized/athletic big man. They have couple big guys (over 6'10"), but either not athletic or lack of dexterity. After a competitive season last year, and such high expectations for this year, it will be interesting if any changes are made if Lehigh does not come close to winning the PL. Colgate is heavy favorite, but failure to make semifinals in the PL would the continuation of a long run of underperformance. Lehigh has been mediocre, at best, ever since CJ McCollum graduated in 2013. Coach Reed is in his 17th season, and while highly regarded as a teacher, and person of character, his in game coaching decisions are curious at times. Lehigh, with rare exceptions in the past 120 years, seems to only care that we are 'competitive'. When the occasional star arrives is when we will have a winning season. Considering the school's history in basketball (one of the ten worst in win/loss percentage) having a 16-14 record and 10-8 in the league is good enough.xeyebrowx

[clenz]

Now that the OOC games are all but over we can take a look at the conference NET rankings to get an idea of where everyone sorts out.

I was warned that the Summit was just inches away from blowing past the MVC every single year for the last 10-13 years on this site by Dakota school fans. The Valley was going to fall apart without Creighton and we messed up adding Valpo when that didn't happen losing Wichita and adding Loyola was a bad move that was going to cripple us further and then Loyola made a final four and was a top 25 team and they left and everyone swore that would would be the final nail in the coffin. Meanwhile the Summit was getting stability and were flying up the charts.

Well....you guys were right. There is the smallest **** hair between the two leagues at this point. By this time next year - 2025 at the latest - the Summit will be well clear of the Valley.

teamrankings.com (https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/rpi-ranking/rpi-rating-by-conf)




Rank
Conference
Rating


1
SEC
0.58


2
Big East
0.572


3
ACC
0.567


4
B10
0.536


5
B12
0.556


6
MWC
0.548


7
P12
0.533


8
A10
0.516


9
MVC
0.514


10
AAC
0.505


11
WCC
0.504


12
Ivy
0.504


13
Big Sky
0.495


14
WAC
0.494


15
CUSA
0.484


16
SoCon
0.484


17
Big West
0.482


18
MAC
0.477


19
Big South
0.477


20
CAA
0.475


21
Am. East
0.472


22
Horizon
0.472


23
Sun Belt
0.469


24
SWAC
0.466


25
Summit
0.466


26
MAAC
0.453


27
SLC
0.449


28
ASUN
0.448


29
OVC
0.446


30
MEAC
0.434


31
Indy
0.429


32
NEC
0.419


33
Patriot
0.414




The gap between 25th and 9th has never been closer.

OOC win % for each conference - MVC 62.07 Summit 36.05

Net of individual teams really shows just how close the two are as well



23
Indiana State

MVC


73
Drake

MVC


87
Southern Illinois

MVC


92
Evansville

MVC


97
Missouri State

MVC


122
Northern Iowa

MVC


129
UIC

MVC


136
Bradley

MVC


146
Denver

Summit


150
Belmont

MVC


175
Saint Thomas

Summit


186
Oral Roberts

Summit


190
Illinois State

MVC


203
North Dakota State

Summit


204
South Dakota State

Summit


247
North Dakota

Summit


270
Murray State

MVC


285
South Dakota

Summit


286
Omaha

Summit


291
UMKC

Summit


317
Valparaiso

MVC




Maybe those are skewed and the Summit does really well H2H. Tough to say as there were only 3 games between the two leagues this year but the Valley went 3-0 with the average score of those games being 78-65


ISUR
75

NDSU
65


MOSU
84

ORU
69


SIU
76

NDSU
63




Well...at least they were right that adding Valpo was a gigantic ****ing mistake - but nearly everyone in the Valley largely agreed with that assuming they didn't dump a bunch of money into their programs - which they haven't done.

[McNeese75]

McNeese goes into Ann Arbor and takes down Michigan 87-76.

Shahada Wells is a 6'0' guard. "Wells had 30 points, 10 rebounds, 6 rebounds, and 5 steals. If that wasn’t enough to whet your palate about how talented this team is, Wells, with his 30-10 game to go along with six assists and five steals, is the first player in college basketball to record at least 30-10-5-5 since LSU’s Ben Simmons in the 2015 season. And he’s the first to do it against a high-major school since 2011."

The game recap, etc can be found on the following blog for Saturday:

https://zemsgems.wordpress.com/

[bonarae]

Harvard lost to Iona 69-60. One last OOC against UAlbany at Lavietes on Tuesday before our Ivy slate begins.


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[ElCid]

Furman loses to Div II Anderson, a 5-6 team and a 36 point underdog going in, by 79-74. LOL.

[ngineer]

Lehigh upsets Marist in New York to get first D-1 win of the year! Lehigh now 3-8, though a number of those losses were to UNC, PITT, B.C., Providence, and PSU.

[bonarae]

Harvard wraps up its OOC with a W over UAlbany at home, 76-71. At Jadwin on Saturday night EST to open the Ivy slate.

[clenz]

I wanted to do another MVC/Summit update. That gap is closing at record speeds.

MVC remains 9th in conference ranking. The Summit remains at 25 - but I'm sure they are bound to be ahead of the Valley by March.

Current NET Rankings of each conference's teams


43
Indiana St.
MVC


75
Southern Illinois
MVC


77
Drake
MVC


88
Northern Iowa
MVC


96
Missouri St.
MVC


116
Bradley
MVC


126
St. Thomas
Summit


133
Illinois Chicago
MVC


147
Belmont
MVC


152
South Dakota St.
Summit


153
Evansville
MVC


189
Denver
Summit


193
Murray St.
MVC


220
Oral Roberts
Summit


227
North Dakota St.
Summit


233
Illinois St.
MVC


276
Nebraska Omaha
Summit


282
UMKC
Summit


293
North Dakota
Summit


311
South Dakota
Summit


318
Valparaiso
MVC




Also, **** Valpo

[POD Knows]

NDSU has not won a MBB GAME since they played that church league team a couple weeks back.

[bonarae]

Princeton clamped the Crimson’s streak with a big win, 89-58.

The P’s are dominant in the Ivies once again.


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[Bisonator]

I wanted to do another MVC/Summit update. That gap is closing at record speeds.

MVC remains 9th in conference ranking. The Summit remains at 25 - but I'm sure they are bound to be ahead of the Valley by March.

Current NET Rankings of each conference's teams


43
Indiana St.
MVC


75
Southern Illinois
MVC


77
Drake
MVC


88
Northern Iowa
MVC


96
Missouri St.
MVC


116
Bradley
MVC


126
St. Thomas
Summit


133
Illinois Chicago
MVC


147
Belmont
MVC


152
South Dakota St.
Summit


153
Evansville
MVC


189
Denver
Summit


193
Murray St.
MVC


220
Oral Roberts
Summit


227
North Dakota St.
Summit


233
Illinois St.
MVC


276
Nebraska Omaha
Summit


282
UMKC
Summit


293
North Dakota
Summit


311
South Dakota
Summit


318
Valparaiso
MVC




Also, **** Valpo
Congrats I'm sure the MVC will get multiple bids and be well represented in the final four this year! xlolx

[clenz]

Congrats I'm sure the MVC will get multiple bids and be well represented in the final four this year! xlolx
See, it's funny to me that the Dakota 4 fans were so against Murray State because it didn't make the league better and they were good and "ONLY ADD GOOD TEAMS TO THE VALLEY. WE HAVE TO BE THE HIGHEST LEVEL POSSIBLE"

but when it comes to any other sport and playing in a **** conference they quickly fall back to the "yeah but why play in a better league if it isn't going to do XYZ?".

[bonarae]

Meanwhile... if Gonzaga continues their play like that, they will be off to the NIT. xlolx

Downsizing arenas in this day and age? Why did Baylor do that? https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/the-court-report-why-programs-should-follow-baylor-downsize-arenas-for-better-college-basketball-experience/

[bonarae]

Late but this kills March Madness... xbawlingx

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/38757643/no-nit-automatic-bids-regular-season-conference-champs

[clenz]

Meanwhile... if Gonzaga continues their play like that, they will be off to the NIT. xlolx

Downsizing arenas in this day and age? Why did Baylor do that? https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/the-court-report-why-programs-should-follow-baylor-downsize-arenas-for-better-college-basketball-experience/
Because we are going to see a shift, especially as the split happens more and more, to colleges "right sizing" stadiums and arenas. The rush for more and more seats because more and more fans will show up is over. Baylor is a high end team in a high end conference. However, they are a small private school that isn't going to fill 10k+ seats. That's a ton of money spent in construction on things that aren't going to return any money.

Gone are the days of everyone wanting a 45k+ seat stadium and 11k+ arena. You'll find many programs are looking at 25-35k stadiums and outside of a the top of the top P5s you'll find most arenas will be smaller moving forward. Smaller, more intiment, more intense atmosphere without needing 10k to get it. More suites that can be sold at higher prices, and more fan friendly amenities and attractions to get people in the area.

Any FCS team - even those with grandiose FBS high end G5 dreams - would be smart to remodel/build in the 25k range max but make it super nice and fan friendly. Any FCS team that is going to be FCS or whatever the FCS is moving forward is going to be smart to make sure it's right sized and realize you're crowds aren't going to be big. It's better to sell out and make a handful of people upset they didn't get a ticket every few years than spend more and have 20% capacity and a dead atmosphere. Same for baksetball arenas. I see what Fairfield built for an arena and it's gorgeous. Seats about 3500, but for them that's the true max of what they should have done, and they did it to the 9s across the board.
https://www.fairfield.edu/news/images/2023/september/09-14-2023_image_mahoney_dk.jpg

San Jose State needed to do something to fix their stadium, so they did and reduced capacity from 32k to 20-21k in the process because 32k for SJSU is hilariously dumb outside of about 1 game a decade at this point. Since 2018 they went from this dead, soulless, cement relic of the past
https://astroturf.com/static/ef632631cd89622f10ec8cb9a881a358/san-jose-state.jpg

To this
https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2019/08/30002224/IMG_8054-2-e1567147832198-1024x683.jpg

To this - with incredible state-of-the-art facilities for their athletic teams in place of those stands. Forcing everyone to one side of the stadium, plus endzones.
https://media.zenfs.com/en/deseret_news_992/10c314cdc7ef1cc839cabf354ed5a94d

Some will say it's dumb, or whatever, but it looks outstanding on TV, and the facilities/suites that other side has now is far more profitable for the AD and the students than 11k more empty seats from 40 years ago. They still likely need to clean up the other seats that are left with a facelift, but it's one of the first proof-of-concept for shrinking capacity for nicer stadiums.

TV and streaming isn't going away. The need for massive stadiums and arenas isn't going to exist moving forward. Right size your stadium/arena with major upgrades for fans who are there.

[bonarae]

Harvard is now 0-2 in Ivy play thanks to a 74-72 close loss to Brown at home.

[ElCid]

Because we are going to see a shift, especially as the split happens more and more, to colleges "right sizing" stadiums and arenas. The rush for more and more seats because more and more fans will show up is over. Baylor is a high end team in a high end conference. However, they are a small private school that isn't going to fill 10k+ seats. That's a ton of money spent in construction on things that aren't going to return any money.

Gone are the days of everyone wanting a 45k+ seat stadium and 11k+ arena. You'll find many programs are looking at 25-35k stadiums and outside of a the top of the top P5s you'll find most arenas will be smaller moving forward. Smaller, more intiment, more intense atmosphere without needing 10k to get it. More suites that can be sold at higher prices, and more fan friendly amenities and attractions to get people in the area.

Any FCS team - even those with grandiose FBS high end G5 dreams - would be smart to remodel/build in the 25k range max but make it super nice and fan friendly. Any FCS team that is going to be FCS or whatever the FCS is moving forward is going to be smart to make sure it's right sized and realize you're crowds aren't going to be big. It's better to sell out and make a handful of people upset they didn't get a ticket every few years than spend more and have 20% capacity and a dead atmosphere. Same for baksetball arenas. I see what Fairfield built for an arena and it's gorgeous. Seats about 3500, but for them that's the true max of what they should have done, and they did it to the 9s across the board.
https://www.fairfield.edu/news/images/2023/september/09-14-2023_image_mahoney_dk.jpg

San Jose State needed to do something to fix their stadium, so they did and reduced capacity from 32k to 20-21k in the process because 32k for SJSU is hilariously dumb outside of about 1 game a decade at this point. Since 2018 they went from this dead, soulless, cement relic of the past
https://astroturf.com/static/ef632631cd89622f10ec8cb9a881a358/san-jose-state.jpg

To this
https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2019/08/30002224/IMG_8054-2-e1567147832198-1024x683.jpg

To this - with incredible state-of-the-art facilities for their athletic teams in place of those stands. Forcing everyone to one side of the stadium, plus endzones.
https://media.zenfs.com/en/deseret_news_992/10c314cdc7ef1cc839cabf354ed5a94d

Some will say it's dumb, or whatever, but it looks outstanding on TV, and the facilities/suites that other side has now is far more profitable for the AD and the students than 11k more empty seats from 40 years ago. They still likely need to clean up the other seats that are left with a facelift, but it's one of the first proof-of-concept for shrinking capacity for nicer stadiums.

TV and streaming isn't going away. The need for massive stadiums and arenas isn't going to exist moving forward. Right size your stadium/arena with major upgrades for fans who are there.

We are experiencing this exact phenomenon. Our stadium sat 22,500 when I was a cadet. We eliminated the end zone bleachers a long time ago, late 80s. Then we rebuilt the home side with luxury boxes and lounges. Still about 22k. Our record is 23k+ and we used to get a good 16-18k average in good years. Our home side is now as good as the best FCS stadiums. Then our visitor side was condemned for asbestos. It was halved, then we tore it down about 6 years ago and put up temp bleachers which are still there to this day. We apparently have the money now to rebuild, but instead of replacing it with a similar 10K seats, it will be downsized to 4-5k(?).

[McNeese75]

Late but this kills March Madness... xbawlingx

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/38757643/no-nit-automatic-bids-regular-season-conference-champs

Southland Conference

Lamar (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2320/lamar-cardinals) could have a Disney-like finish
Alvin Brooks was a guard for the Cardinals in the late 1970s. Now he's in his third season as head coach, and has already matched last season's win total. Picked to finish ninth in the league's preseason poll, Lamar entered this week in a tie for first place. The school hopes to reach the NCAA tournament for the first time since 2012.


Lamar is no longer tied for first place. Cowboys took them down 88-69

https://mcneesesports.com/news/2024/1/16/mens-basketball-mcneese-takes-sole-possession-of-1st-place-with-win-over-lamar.aspx

[McNeese75]

https://zemsgems.files.wordpress.com/2024/01/image-27.png?w=810

Not bad hops for Wells (#13) a 6'0" guard.

[Bisonoline]

https://zemsgems.files.wordpress.com/2024/01/image-27.png?w=810

Not bad hops for Wells (#13) a 6'0" guard.

xeekxxawesomexxnodx

[bonarae]

Harvard had its first Ivy win by beating the Quackers 70-61 at the Palestra.

[bonarae]

Should court storming be banned?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketballs-best-of-the-week-bronny-james-bonks-his-head-court-storming-causes-problems-once-again/

[bonarae]

Harvard was stopped by Yale at home 78-65.

[McNeese75]

McNeese beat UNO 102 - 65 in front of the third sellout of the season (4,200 plus standing room) McNeese scored 32 points on fast breaks and gave up 1 point to UNO on breaks. The McNeese bench outscored UNO 34-12 and won the battle in the paint 54-26. The Cowboys shot 63% from the field, 55% from behind the arc, and a total of five turnovers. McNeese turned the ball over only one time in the second half.

https://zemsgems.files.wordpress.com/2024/01/image-53.png?w=1024


McNeese improved to 18-2 with a 13 game win streak which is currently #1 in the NCAA after Dayton lost yesterday.

[clenz]

It's a great season with McNeese

They sold their soul for someone like Will Wade. Right now they are reaping the benefits.

Given Wade's history I'm sure none of these wins will come around to be vacated and he sticks around past this year to see the continued success and accept any potential issues the NCAA finds with him.

Having said that, enjoy it while it lasts.

[McNeese75]

There are no remainng issues with Wade (he served a 10 game suspension at the first of this season). What you consider selling our soul we call giving him another chance (to our benefit certainly). He has a 3 year contract but I think someone is going to throw money at him after this season that he can't refuse. Ideally we would get another year out of him but depending on how this year ends up, I doubt it. If we can retain one or both of his assistants as head coach then we will still be in a good place.

We are having fun xdrunkyx McNeese beat UAB soundly (21 pts) at their house in November and they just beat Penny Hardawayt's #19 Memphis yesterday. A little bump in the strength of schedule, which is needed as the SLC is not the strongest this year (although there have been some good wins by the teams)

[McNeese75]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1752346951251791874

I realize I keep chirping here about the McNeese BB team but after the disasterous football season last year we will take all the fun we can get (as shown by the fan reactioin in the video)

[bonarae]

Harvard beat Columbia 62-59 yesterday. Tonight: at home versus Cornell.

[bonarae]

Cornell clamped Harvard at Lavietes 89-76. Next game against Dartmouth next Saturday.

[McNeese75]

McNeese goes down to a very hot shooting Southeastern team. Pokes still had two shots in the last 5 seconds to tie the game but no go. Onward to Monday night xnodx

[AshevilleApp2]

Appalachian is among the Others Receiving Votes in both polls!

[bonarae]

Harvard whips the unionizing Dartmouth MBB team at Lavietes, 77-59. Off to NY to face Columbia and Cornell on the road Friday and Saturday.

[ngineer]

Lehigh beat Laughyette in BOTH men’s and women’s basketball Saturday with women winning in Easton, 70-68 in OT, and men winning in double OT,
94-90 at Stabler Arena! The Rivalry never disappoints for excitement.

[McNeese75]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT1UqLlPYWE

Check out #1 and #7

[bonarae]

Harvard lost at Cornell, 75-62. Columbia tomorrow.

[bonarae]

Harvard came from behind to beat Columbia on the road, 80-75. The P's at Lavietes next weekend.

[bonarae]

Harvard finishes the regular season earlier than expected due to a conflict with Dartmouth... (March 9 to March 5) However, the other six Ivies will finish on March 9.

https://ivyleague.com/news/2024/2/14/womens-basketball-dartmouth-vs-harvard-basketball-games-rescheduled-to-tuesday-march-5.aspx

Meanwhile... in the "first bid will be punched to the Dance there" league (OVC)... Morehead State is the front-runner for the #1 seed there (tourney there starts March 6 and bid is awarded March 9.)

[ngineer]

Lehigh has now ripped off 4 straight wins, two in OT, to move into a tie for third place in the PL. A couple of the walking wounded have returned, but more impressive is the play of a couple frosh who gained major time experience during the slew of injuries. PL is a fairly competitive this year, though Colgate favored, they have shown vulnerabilities.

[McNeese75]

McNeese used a suffocating defense to beat Nicholl state 74-47.

McNeese's No. 1 NCAA ranking in scoring margin increased to 19.5 after the win.
The Cowboys have won their last two games by an average score of 89.5-50.5.
McNeese is tied with four other teams in the NCAA with 23 wins, the second-most in the nation; #1 UConn tops the NCAA with 24 victories.
The nine road wins are the second-most in the nation.

[bonarae]

Not McNeese but another SLC game made the news after a brawl breaks out postgame between UIW and TAMUC... :(

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/watch-brawl-erupts-between-incarnate-word-texas-a-m-commerce-in-postgame-handshake-line/

[bulldog10jw]

https://www.midmajormadness.com/2024/2/19/24077144/column-yale-princeton-and-cornell-are-the-ivy-leagues-best-top-3-in-years

In the portal era, the strength of the Ivy’s top shows the value of roster continuity

.....In the transfer portal era of college basketball, losing undergraduate stars has become inevitable for mid majors. However, the Ivy League isn’t a normal mid-major league.


It’s cliche, but choosing to attend an Ivy League school isn’t a four-year decision, it’s a 40-year decision. While some players might be able to seek NIL deals at bigger basketball schools, there’s no league with greater buy in from its players and coaches than the Ivy.

[McNeese75]

Not McNeese but another SLC game made the news after a brawl breaks out postgame between UIW and TAMUC... :(

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/watch-brawl-erupts-between-incarnate-word-texas-a-m-commerce-in-postgame-handshake-line/

yeah, them boys was kung fu fighting for sure.

[bonarae]

Harvard lost to Princeton 66-53. The Quackers tomorrow.


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[Professor Chaos]

Court storming is dumb... there are a few select instances where it's justified but it happens so often now it was only a matter of time before something like this happened: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39591762/duke-kyle-filipowski-injured-fan-wake-court-storming-win

Fine the **** out of schools that allow their fans to storm the court I say... if it's a big enough win do it anyway and some big donor will pay for it but it would reduce a lot of the silly ones. For instance earlier this month UND fans stormed the court after beating NDSU in Grand Forks... NDSU was 10-12 going into the game and UND was favored to win by 4.5. End the stupidity.

[POD Knows]

Court storming is dumb... there are a few select instances where it's justified but it happens so often now it was only a matter of time before something like this happened: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39591762/duke-kyle-filipowski-injured-fan-wake-court-storming-win

Fine the **** out of schools that allow their fans to storm the court I say... if it's a big enough win do it anyway and some big donor will pay for it but it would reduce a lot of the silly ones. For instance earlier this month UND fans stormed the court after beating NDSU in Grand Forks... NDSU was 10-12 going into the game and UND was favored to win by 4.5. End the stupidity.
It is freaking dumb. Storming the floor or the field for a regular season win is the height of lameness. The fines need to be in the 7 figure range and damages if somebody gets hurt.

[bonarae]

Harvard stops the Quackers at the final men’s basketball Lavietes game for the season, 74-70. We are still tied for fourth in the Ivy standings alongside Brown.


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[ngineer]

Lehigh sweeps Laughyette in The Rivalry, winning at Kirby in Easton, 71-63. The win is Lehigh's 6th in a row and has them in a tie for 3rd in the PL with American U., one game behind Laughyette. Colgate leads. Top 6 teams get first round byes in PL tournament and a top 3 will earn home court for the first playoff game.

[bonarae]

Court storming but in a positive way... MVSU won its very first conference game in 2023-2024.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/mississippi-valley-state-fans-storm-court-after-delta-devils-avoid-winless-season-by-winning-first-game/

[pardfan]

To start things off in men's basketball, Lafayette was 7-0 in PL (even beat Colgate) after a really bad non-conference performance. But now they are 3-6 in their last nine and are losing to bottom-feeder Navy as I write this. Bucknell could easily beat us in the last game. 7-0 then 3-8. Amazing and pathetic...all at the same time.

[JacksFan40]

SDSU beat UND last night 72-62 to outright win the Summit regular season title. Jacks will have a guaranteed trip to the NIT at least if they lose in the Summit tournament.

[McNeese75]

Beware of the Cowboys if they survive the Confernece Tournament


https://twitter.com/i/status/1762487296199184484

[bonarae]

Brown gets the last Ivy Madness seat by beating Harvard at their homecourt 71-68.

[ngineer]

To start things off in men's basketball, Lafayette was 7-0 in PL (even beat Colgate) after a really bad non-conference performance. But now they are 3-6 in their last nine and are losing to bottom-feeder Navy as I write this. Bucknell could easily beat us in the last game. 7-0 then 3-8. Amazing and pathetic...all at the same time.

The PL is a big blanket. Even Colgate, which is on top has shown some cracks this year. I would not be surprised to see anyone of the top 6 or 7 teams win the tournament. Get hot for three games. Lehigh did it way back in 1986 or so, when they ran the table through the old East Coast Conference with freshman stars Queenan and Polaha. Of course, they drew #1 Georgetown with Patrick Ewing in the NCAA, but made a credible showing, actually winning the second half after being caught in the headlights in the first. Women's side of the League is similar. A lot of teams with enough to make it interesting.

[bonarae]

Brown gets the last Ivy Madness seat by beating Harvard at their homecourt 71-68.

Brown can secure it by winning its game against Dartmouth or through a Harvard loss against Yale tomorrow.

[bonarae]

Brown gets the last Ivy Madness seat. Harvard is out, losing to Yale 80-60. Meanwhile, Cornell, Princeton and Yale join the Bears in Columbia's homecourt two weekends from now.

[POD Knows]

The NDSU men’s team and program sucks, fire everybody. This team has no heart and that is partially due to the leadership. They lost two freaking games to the last place team in the conference and the games weren’t close.

[bonarae]

Tune-up to the Madness is on! xhurrayx

Many FCS-participating teams are the top seeds in their conference tournaments.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/march-madness-2024-conference-tournament-brackets-schedules-dates-times-tv-channels-automatic-bids/

[Laker]

Brown gets the last Ivy Madness seat. Harvard is out, losing to Yale 80-60. Meanwhile, Cornell, Princeton and Yale join the Bears in Columbia's homecourt two weekends from now.

Have you seen this? I was surprised by the number of Ivy teams listed at the bottom.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHywDj3XUAAwCIz?format=jpg&name=large

[bonarae]

Dartmouth MBB team votes to unionize.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/dartmouth-mens-basketball-team-votes-to-unionize-in-historic-moment-for-college-sports/

[bonarae]

Harvard closes out the season by losing to Dartmouth on the road, 76-69. A long offseason for us, then... xsighx

[bonarae]

Morehead State is the first autobid clinched for the Big Dance 2024. How many #1 seeds had wasted chances so far in any conference? xchinscratchx

[bonarae]

#1 seeds from mid majors still in the hunt for their conference's Dance autobid:

Colgate
Indiana State
(College of) Charleston
Samford
South Dakota State
Appalachian State
St. Mary's Gaels
Oakland U

yet to start:

UC Irvine
Utah State
Richmond
Sam Houston
Princeton
Quinnipiac
Toledo
Norfolk State
McNeese
Grambling
Grand Canyon

[bonarae]

Drake and Stetson are the next to punch tickets. Both were #2 seeds.

[clenz]

Drake and Stetson are the next to punch tickets. Both were #2 seeds.
I know it won't happen because the NCAA ****ing sucks but Indiana State 1000% deserves an AL.

[bonarae]

Big Sky's top two seeds say goodbye to their chances of Dancing. CBI is their best bet.

Colgate vs. Lehigh in the PL Final. ETSU vs. Samford in the SoCon final.

App says goodbye to their Dancing chances too. :(

Remaining top seeds with Dancing chances:
Colgate
(College of) Charleston
Samford
South Dakota State
St. Mary's Gaels
Oakland U

yet to start:

UC Irvine
Utah State
Richmond
Sam Houston
Princeton
Quinnipiac
Toledo
Norfolk State
McNeese
Grambling
Grand Canyon

[AshevilleApp2]

Attended the SOCON semis yesterday and saw one pretty good game and one great one. Samford jumped out to a lead and held off some Furman runs in the first game. Then ETSU came back from 20 down with about 12 minutes to go and beat UTC by one in overtime. Awesome game. Go Bucs!

[bonarae]

Samford is the first #1 seed from a mid major to clear the hurdle of the conference tournament and punch its Dance ticket.

JMU also punches its Dance ticket from a #2 seed in its conference tournament.

That being said:

Dancing:
Morehead State
Drake
Stetson
Samford
JMU

Remaining #1 seeds in conference tournaments with Dancing chances:
South Dakota State
Colgate
(College of) Charleston
Oakland U
St. Mary's Gaels

yet to start:

UC Irvine
Utah State
Richmond
Sam Houston
Princeton
Quinnipiac
Toledo
Norfolk State
McNeese
Grambling
Grand Canyon

[bonarae]

btw, here is a story about Samford's rise to the Dance through its HC:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/how-samford-coach-bucky-mcmillan-has-the-bulldogs-soaring-to-new-heights-after-leading-a-high-school-dynasty/

[bonarae]

The CIT is back after a five year hiatus... do you think its return is good again for mid-majors?

[bonarae]

Another mid-major related article ... but I think conference tournaments have to go too... xsighx

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2024-03-11/mid-majors-are-already-bringing-madness-march-their-conference-tournaments

[clenz]

The CIT is back after a five year hiatus... do you think its return is good again for mid-majors?
Actual mid-majors? The CIT and CBI do nothing.

For low-majors - aka those who want to think they are mid-majors and refuse to admit they are low majors - it's good for them to have those games I guess.

[pokefan02]

McNeese State is one step closer to the Big Dance

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[bonarae]

St. Mary's, Charleston, Oakland U and South Dakota State join Samford as #1 conference tournament seeds clearing the hurdle and punching their Dance tickets.

Dancing:
Morehead State
Drake
Stetson
Samford
JMU
Wagner
Oakland U
(College of) Charleston
St. Mary's Gaels
South Dakota State

Remaining #1 seeds in conference tournaments with Dancing chances:
Colgate
McNeese
Vermont

yet to play / start:

UC Irvine
Utah State
Richmond
Sam Houston
Princeton
Quinnipiac
Toledo
Norfolk State
Grambling
Grand Canyon

[bonarae]

Oakland U men's and Green Bay women's HCs both say that the conference tournaments of their conference "make them young again".

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2024-03-12/made-young-again-how-postseason-basketball-reignites-passion-two-seasoned

[bonarae]

Not D-I, but a NAIA school is about to close its doors with both sexes' basketball teams still in the running for the NAIA title...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/even-as-antelope-valley-shutters-its-basketball-teams-remain-alive-with-dreams-of-a-national-title/

[bonarae]

Here's where things stand right now:

Dancing:
Morehead State
Drake
Stetson
Samford
JMU
Wagner
Oakland U
(College of) Charleston
St. Mary's Gaels
South Dakota State
Colgate
McNeese
Montana State

Remaining #1 seeds in conference tournaments with Dancing chances:
Vermont
Sam Houston
Quinnipiac
Norfolk State
Grambling

yet to play / start:

UC Irvine
Utah State
Richmond
Princeton
Toledo
Grand Canyon

[wapiti]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GG4Ab50WwAAkH1G.jpg:large

[bonarae]

Both Toledo and Richmond say goodbye to Dancing. Here's where things stand (no championship dates today):


Dancing:
Morehead State
Longwood
Drake
Stetson
Samford
JMU
Wagner
Oakland U
(College of) Charleston
St. Mary's Gaels
South Dakota State
Colgate
McNeese
Montana State

Remaining #1 seeds in conference tournaments with Dancing chances:
Vermont
Sam Houston
Quinnipiac
Norfolk State
Grambling

yet to play / start:

UC Irvine
Utah State
Princeton
Grand Canyon

[bonarae]

Ugh, it's whittled down to a few once again xbawlingx

Dancing:
Morehead State
Longwood
Drake
Stetson
Samford
JMU
Wagner
Oakland U
(College of) Charleston
St. Mary's Gaels
South Dakota State
Colgate
McNeese
Montana State

Remaining #1 seeds in conference tournaments with Dancing chances:
Vermont
Grambling
Grand Canyon

yet to play / start:
Princeton

[Ivytalk]

Well, Princeton manages to lose to Brown. Sayonara, Tigers.

[bonarae]

Dancing:
Morehead State
Longwood
Drake
Stetson
Samford
JMU
Wagner
Oakland U
(College of) Charleston
St. Mary's Gaels
South Dakota State
Colgate
McNeese
Montana State
Vermont
Howard
WKU
Lobos
St. Peter's
Akron
Long Beach State
Grambling
Grand Canyon

Three autobids remain to be won tomorrow. The Selection Sunday show will already be on by the time I wake up tomorrow...

[bulldog10jw]

Yale over Brown 62-61 in the ILT final on a buzzer beater after Brown gives up a 6 point lead in the last twenty five seconds.

Brown missed three free throws at the end that could have put the game away

[bonarae]

All FCS participating teams except one (Dayton) in the 2024 NCAA Tournament are autobids.

Stetson - 16 EAST
Duquesne - 11 EAST
Yale - 13 EAST
Morehead State - 14 EAST
Drake - 10 EAST
SDSU - 15 EAST
Colgate - 14 WEST
Dayton - 7 WEST
McNeese - 12 MIDWEST
Samford - 13 MIDWEST

In Dayton:
Wagner and Howard - for 16 WEST
Grambling and Montana State - for 16 MIDWEST

NIT, CBI and CIT teams from the FCS will be posted tomorrow.

[bonarae]

CBI (only 15 teams):
Northern Colorado
Montana
Presbyterian

Griz and Presby face each other in the 1st round.

NIT: (only top 4 from each region are seeded)
Indiana State, Villanova: #1 seeds
Princeton: #2

Unseeded:
Richmond
Cornell

St. John's, Pitt, Sooners, Hoosiers, etc. all stay home and declined the NIT invitation.

[McNeese75]

Cowboys (12) dancing into Salt Lake City to meet Gonzaga (5) at +6.5 pts. Should be interesting xdrunkyx

[bonarae]

CIT Classics:
ACU vs. TAMUCC
Tarleton vs. Texas Southern
Alabama A&M vs. Austin Peay
Norfolk State vs. ?

Full CIT field not yet released.

[bonarae]

Wagner now faces the Tar Heels.

[Laker]

We dream of hitting that game winning shot at the buzzer. This happened last night- his first points of the game, down one- final MSU-Mankato 43, Northwest Missouri State 42 for the regional championship.

https://dxbhsrqyrr690.cloudfront.net/sidearm.nextgen.sites/msumavericks.com/images/2024/3/19/IMG_2937.jpg

[clenz]

and because of that shot Missouri State is 1 step closer to naming their next head coach

[bonarae]

Tarleton vs. ACU for CIT's Lou Henson championship game.

[bonarae]

Both unseeded NIT teams say goodbye (Richmond and Cornell) yesterday. Princeton, Villanova and Indiana State all play today.

[bonarae]

Grambling survives in OT and will face Purdon't.

Tarleton beats ACU handily.

Games in progress: Indiana State, Princeton, Villanova.

[bonarae]

The Trees used a strong 2nd half to send SMU home.

[bonarae]

Princeton's season has come to a sad end, right at home, against UNLV.

What if... had those NIT-snubbers for this year accepted, wouldn't Cornell and Villanova be left out? xchinscratchx

[bonarae]

Villanova was slain by VCU as well. Only the Trees survived the NIT bloodbath of FCS-participating teams.

Alabama A&M won the CIT's Hugh Durham Classic and will now face Norfolk State for the John McLendon Classic and the CIT Semifinal. Tarleton faces the Mastodons of PFW in the other CIT Semifinal.

Playing later in the NCAA Tournament:
Duquesne vs. BYU (11 v 6)
Wagner vs. North Carolina (16 v 1)
Morehead State vs. Illini (14 v 3)
Nevada Reno vs. Dayton (10 v 7)
McNeese vs. Gonzaga (12 v 5)
SDSU vs. Iowa State (15 v 2)
Samford vs. Kansas (13 v 4)
Drake vs. Wazzu (10 v 7)

Good luck to all! xhurrayx

[bonarae]

Duquesne beat BYU, while Wagner, Morehead lost so far.

[bonarae]

Dayton squeaked by Nevada Reno...

[Chalupa Batman]

Jackrabbits are hanging around against Iowa State, down 7 at the half. Cyclones hit their first 9 or 10 shots but SDSU has played well since.

[Laker]

Oakland beating Kentucky is a great way to start the full first round. Grizzly makes ten threes, scores 32 and puts away a Big Blue blood.

And Sankey doesn't want teams like this in. I wonder why? Suck an egg!

[bonarae]

SDSU goes down to the Cyclones. McNeese bows to the Zags.

[bonarae]

Drake is out as well, losing to Wazzu in the final minutes.

[bulldog10jw]

Samford deserved better. Bad call on a blocked shot after a big comeback.

[bonarae]

Next set tomorrow:

Colgate vs. Baylor (14 v 3)
Stetson vs. UConn (16 v 1)
Yale vs. Auburn (14 v 3)
Grambling vs. Purdue (16 v 1)

Only Duquesne and Dayton have advanced so far. Indiana State will play in the NIT 2nd round against the Goofies on Sunday. CBI begins this weekend.

[POD Knows]

Samford deserved better. Bad call on a blocked shot after a big comeback.
Terrible call but not unexpected. Would have loved to see KU out.

[FUBeAR]

Samford deserved better. Bad call on a blocked shot after a big comeback.
Yep - it’s a dang shame to be robbed of a potential championship and/or knocked out of playoffs/tournaments by horrible - likely intentionally biased - officiating. We Furman Fans can certainly empathize with our fellow SoCon competitors.

[bonarae]

Yale has done it again. They beat Auburn.

The other FCS-playing Dancing teams today all lost. Grambling is still playing as of writing.

[bulldog10jw]

Yale beats Auburn 78-76 to advance to the round of 32. A win on Sunday against SDSU would almost certainly mean a game against UConn next week.

[McNeese75]

Yale beats Auburn 78-76 to advance to the round of 32. A win on Sunday against SDSU would almost certainly mean a game against UConn next week.

Congrats to Yale. Great win!!!

[bonarae]

Only three FCS-participating teams advance to the round of 32: Duquesne, Dayton and Yale.

[bonarae]

How about our ex-FCS move uppers!

JMU slays the Badgers!

[Chalupa Batman]

Such an awesome story. Even wore their shirts too! Well done by the Idaho band.

https://youtu.be/bkwMPhDpwZs?si=7jWJikf4YKzNYUze

[Ivytalk]

Well played, Yale!

There, I said it.

[FUBeAR]

Only three FCS-participating teams advance to the round of 32: Duquesne, Dayton and Yale.
That inspires a FUBeAR trivia quiz…

Since the Covid screwed up year(s), only 2 schools have won both an NCAA Men’s Basketball Tournament game AND won an FCS Playoff game in the same calendar year.

Duquesne & Dayton could join these 2 elite schools this coming Fall, of course…but FUBeAR doesn’t project that happening.

Anyway - as a hint … the 2 schools that are the answer to this question also have another major athletics accomplishment in common, and are 2 of the only 3 such schools to have ever achieved this quite notable accomplishment.

Which 2 FCS schools are these dual sports WINNERS?

Extra Credit - only 1 of those 2 schools has accomplished that same feat in BOTH a calendar year AND an academic year (since Covid). Which one?

[bonarae]

Dayton is sent home, so are Alabama A&M and Bethune-Cookman.

[bonarae]

That inspires a FUBeAR trivia quiz…

Since the Covid screwed up year(s), only 2 schools have won both an NCAA Men’s Basketball Tournament game AND won an FCS Playoff game in the same calendar year.

Duquesne & Dayton could join these 2 elite schools this coming Fall, of course…but FUBeAR doesn’t project that happening.

Anyway - as a hint … the 2 schools that are the answer to this question also have another major athletics accomplishment in common.

Which 2 FCS schools are these dual sports WINNERS?

Extra Credit - only 1 of those 2 schools has accomplished that same feat in BOTH a calendar year AND an academic year (since Covid). Which one?

Another clue - one of them is an ex-FCS move upper now?

[FUBeAR]

Another clue - one of them is an ex-FCS move upper now?
Don’t think so … unless FUBeAR missed one / made a mistake - always a distinct possibility.

[bonarae]

Duquesne, Delaware State are also gone. Norfolk State goes to the CIT title game. Tarleton / PFW won’t play until Monday, however.


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[McNeese75]

I guess the Zag blowout of McNeese does not hurt quite as much after that ass whipping they put on Kansas yesterday.

[bonarae]

Griz advance in OT, beating Presby. Northern Colorado is going home. Indiana State is off to the NIT quarterfinals, beating the Goofies.

[bonarae]

Last FCS-participating dancing team is going home after Yale slumped against the Aztecs.

Where things stand:

NIT
Indiana State
CBI
Montana
CIT
Norfolk State
Tarleton (pending game tomorrow)

[FUBeAR]

That inspires a FUBeAR trivia quiz…

Since the Covid screwed up year(s), only 2 schools have won both an NCAA Men’s Basketball Tournament game AND won an FCS Playoff game in the same calendar year.

Duquesne & Dayton could join these 2 elite schools this coming Fall, of course…but FUBeAR doesn’t project that happening.

Anyway - as a hint … the 2 schools that are the answer to this question also have another major athletics accomplishment in common, and are 2 of the only 3 such schools to have ever achieved this quite notable accomplishment.

Which 2 FCS schools are these dual sports WINNERS?

Extra Credit - only 1 of those 2 schools has accomplished that same feat in BOTH a calendar year AND an academic year (since Covid). Which one?
0 guesses?

OK - the Million $ prize is going back into FUBeAR’s crypto trading account…

The answer…

1. Furman (of course) - Furman Football defeated Elon on 11/26/22 to win an FCS Playoff game AND Furman Basketball defeated Virginia on 3/16/23 in the NCAA Tournament to give the Paladins the ‘academic year’ part of the question. Furman Football also defeated Chattanooga on 12/2/23 in an FCS Playoff game to complete the ‘calendar year’ component. Furman (enrollment of 2,827) has been the only NCAA school since Covid to achieve this “Extra Credit” part of the question.

2. Richmond (enrollment of 3,145) achieved the ‘calendar year’ part of the question in 2022. Richmond Basketball defeated Iowa on 3/17/22 in an NCAA Tournament game and Richmond Football defeated Davidson on 11/26/22 in an FCS Playoff game.

Info about the “hint” - Furman and Richmond are 2 of the 3 Private Schools to have ever won an NCAA Division I-AA / FCS National Championship. Villanova (enrollment of 6,989) is the 3rd. The Wildcats have also been pretty good in hoops, in the past, FUBeAR believes.

Thanks for (not) playing…losers. :D

[bonarae]

The Griz were sent home by the Red Wolves. Tarleton is leading at halftime against the Mastodons.

[bonarae]

0 guesses?

OK - the Million $ prize is going back into FUBeAR’s crypto trading account…

The answer…

1. Furman (of course) - Furman Football defeated Elon on 11/26/22 to win an FCS Playoff game AND Furman Basketball defeated Virginia on 3/16/23 in the NCAA Tournament to give the Paladins the ‘academic year’ part of the question. Furman Football also defeated Chattanooga on 12/2/23 in an FCS Playoff game to complete the ‘calendar year’ component. Furman (enrollment of 2,827) has been the only NCAA school since Covid to achieve this “Extra Credit” part of the question.

2. Richmond (enrollment of 3,145) achieved the ‘calendar year’ part of the question in 2022. Richmond Basketball defeated Iowa on 3/17/22 in an NCAA Tournament game and Richmond Football defeated Davidson on 11/26/22 in an FCS Playoff game.

Info about the “hint” - Furman and Richmond are 2 of the 3 Private Schools to have ever won an NCAA Division I-AA / FCS National Championship. Villanova (enrollment of 6,989) is the 3rd. The Wildcats have also been pretty good in hoops, in the past, FUBeAR believes.

Thanks for (not) playing…losers. :D

Wow. Never noticed it. Was quite busy with my masteral thesis proposal, which I have to re-defend aside from tracking the FCS playing postseason basketball teams...

[bonarae]

Indiana State is the last FCS participating team standing in the postseason. Tarleton was wiped out by a strong second half by the Mastodons.

[Chalupa Batman]

0 guesses?

OK - the Million $ prize is going back into FUBeAR’s crypto trading account…

The answer…

1. Furman (of course) - Furman Football defeated Elon on 11/26/22 to win an FCS Playoff game AND Furman Basketball defeated Virginia on 3/16/23 in the NCAA Tournament to give the Paladins the ‘academic year’ part of the question. Furman Football also defeated Chattanooga on 12/2/23 in an FCS Playoff game to complete the ‘calendar year’ component. Furman (enrollment of 2,827) has been the only NCAA school since Covid to achieve this “Extra Credit” part of the question.

2. Richmond (enrollment of 3,145) achieved the ‘calendar year’ part of the question in 2022. Richmond Basketball defeated Iowa on 3/17/22 in an NCAA Tournament game and Richmond Football defeated Davidson on 11/26/22 in an FCS Playoff game.

Info about the “hint” - Furman and Richmond are 2 of the 3 Private Schools to have ever won an NCAA Division I-AA / FCS National Championship. Villanova (enrollment of 6,989) is the 3rd. The Wildcats have also been pretty good in hoops, in the past, FUBeAR believes.

Thanks for (not) playing…losers. :D

I was thinking about this over the weekend as I was going to play along, but ended up thinking about it so long I eventually got sidetracked watching all the action this weekend. I remembered Furman beating Virginia last year and winning playoff games the last two years, and my initial thought was Villanova for the other one. Then I thought there might be a tricky answer, like South Carolina State winning the Celebration Bowl and a 16 seed vs. 16 seed play in game. Richmond never even crossed my mind, although I know they're generally pretty good at basketball.

Out of curiosity though, I went back and checked on Villanova......they won 2 games in the 2021 NCAA basketball tournament to advance to the Sweet 16, and defeated Holy Cross in a FCS playoff game that fall. Then in the 2022 NCAA basketball tournament, they won 4 games to advance to the Final Four. So like Furman & Richmond, they won an NCAA basketball tournament game and a FCS playoff game in the same calendar year. And like Furman, they also did so in the same academic year.

[FUBeAR]

I was thinking about this over the weekend as I was going to play along, but ended up thinking about it so long I eventually got sidetracked watching all the action this weekend. I remembered Furman beating Virginia last year and winning playoff games the last two years, and my initial thought was Villanova for the other one. Then I thought there might be a tricky answer, like South Carolina State winning the Celebration Bowl and a 16 seed vs. 16 seed play in game. Richmond never even crossed my mind, although I know they're generally pretty good at basketball.

Out of curiosity though, I went back and checked on Villanova......they won 2 games in the 2021 NCAA basketball tournament to advance to the Sweet 16, and defeated Holy Cross in a FCS playoff game that fall. Then in the 2022 NCAA basketball tournament, they won 4 games to advance to the Final Four. So like Furman & Richmond, they won an NCAA basketball tournament game and a FCS playoff game in the same calendar year. And like Furman, they also did so in the same academic year.
You are correct, but, regrettably, not a million $ winner … and Wikipedia is wrong … only shows their loss to SDSU in 2021 and FUBeAR was only looking for a “W,” not noting what round they got that “L” and doing the logic req’d to know they would have to have won a game.. FUBeAR should know better than counting on Wikipedia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villanova_Wildcats_football



2019 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_NCAA_Division_I_FCS_football_season#Postseaso n)
First Round
Southeastern Louisiana
L 44–45


2021 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_NCAA_Division_I_FCS_football_season#Postseaso n)
Quarterfinals
South Dakota State
L 21–35


2023 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_NCAA_Division_I_FCS_football_season#Postseaso n)
Second Round
Quarterfinals
Youngstown State
South Dakota State
W 45-28
L 12–23



Welcome to the club of WINNERS, Wildcats. Told y’all they were pretty good at hoops in the past.

[Laker]

I thought we had a school closing thread but I don't see it. D3 Birmingham Southern to close. At one time they were D1. Birmingham-Southern to close - D3sports (https://d3sports.com/notables/2024/03/birmingham-southern-to-close)

[bonarae]

Norfolk State vs. PFW tomorrow, 7 PM EDT. This is for the CIT Championship.

Indiana State advances to the NIT semifinals, beating the Cincinnati Bearcats in a close game, 85-81. Perhaps the NIT is the Trees' destiny this season, right? xdontknowx xchinscratchx Next opponent for the Sycamores is the winner of the Utah Utes vs. VCU NIT game to be played tomorrow, on April 2 in Butler's home court, Hinkle Fieldhouse.

[bonarae]

Norfolk State wins the 2024 CIT composed of only 9 teams. Will the CIT fold up eventually?

Indiana State will now face the Utah Utes in the NIT semifinal.

[Laker]

MSU-Mankato win the D2 title on a buzzer beater (well, almost. .8 of a second). This is the day after the Mav women won the D2 title. Unreal.

[Professor Chaos]

MSU-Mankato win the D2 title on a buzzer beater (well, almost. .8 of a second). This is the day after the Mav women won the D2 title. Unreal.
Great season for MSU-Mankato basketball! I believe the men had two buzzer beaters as they advanced through the D2 tournament. Quite the accomplishment at any level to have the national champions in both men's and women's basketball!

[Laker]

Great season for MSU-Mankato basketball! I believe the men had two buzzer beaters as they advanced through the D2 tournament. Quite the accomplishment at any level to have the national champions in both men's and women's basketball!

Thanks! Yes, buzzer beater at the regional final at MSU vs Northwest MO St and Saturday in the championship game. Women hit the buzzer beater in the semis. Joey Batt comes back from her broken hand and missed about five games, Taylor Theusch started all last year and came back late in the year to hit threes after being out with a foot injury, Russo the post couldn't play in the title game at all, Bursch the other guard was maybe 50% but still put in enough time to get the win. I saw a number of the 2009 women's title team in St Joseph's on Friday. Both places had quite a number of Mav fans- good to see. Still like a dream.

[Chalupa Batman]

MSU-Mankato win the D2 title on a buzzer beater (well, almost. .8 of a second). This is the day after the Mav women won the D2 title. Unreal.

That was a heck of a championship game and a great finish! I've never seen a team press after missed shots like Nova Southeastern does, and to also just bring in 5 new guys every 2-3 minutes. That was really unique to see.

[bonarae]

Trees now face Seton Hall for the NIT title tonight EDT at Butler's homecourt.

[bonarae]

Trees lose their NIT title bid in the final minutes of the second half... Seton Hall wins the NIT.

That's all folks for the FCS participating teams. See you all in 2024-2025.

[clenz]

That Indiana State team is going to win the A10 next year.

[Ivytalk]

The Edey-Burns matchup in the semis should be fun to watch.

[bonarae]

Calipari is going to Fayetteville. Kentucky is starting fresh at last.... xdontknowx

[AshevilleApp2]

That Indiana State team is going to win the A10 next year.
Maybe. I just saw that eight players entered the portal.

[clenz]

Maybe. I just saw that eight players entered the portal.
Every single starter is in the portal - and all will end up at SLU from what I've gathered.

That team only went 6.5 deep anyway.

The St Louis Sycamores will win the A10