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McCowboys
June 5th, 2023, 11:20 AM
Here is a historical record of how McNeese has done against some of the current and past FCS members. List yours.
The schools with asterisks, of course, are no longer in FCS.
Unfortunately, many of the (0-1) records came as a result of playoff losses by McNeese.
*Appalachian State (1-0) The Cowboys won in Boone (big upset) shortly before ASU went to FBS.
Cal Poly (0-1)
Eastern Illinois (3-0) The Cowboys and Panthers will meet in Illinois this season.
Eastern Washington (0-1)
*Georgia Southern (2-1)
*Jacksonville State (7-1) These teams were once conference members in the Southland Football League.
*James Madison (1-1)
*Marshall (2-1)
Missouri State (4-2)
Montana State (1-1)
Montana (3-3) - All the victories were won by the home team.
Northern Arizona (0-1)
Portland State (2-1)
South Dakota State (1-1)
*Troy (7-4) These teams were once conference members in the Southland Football League.
Delaware (2-1)
Idaho (3-0)
Maine (0-2)
New Hampshire (0-1)
Northern Iowa (4-8)
South Dakota (1-0)
UT-Martin (3-1)
Villanova (1-0)
Youngstown State ((3-2)
crusader11
June 5th, 2023, 04:19 PM
Albany 1-2
Brown 33-25-3
Bryant 2-1
CCSU 2-0
Columbia 6-2
Cornell 0-5
Dartmouth 37-40-4
Dayton 9-1
Delaware 2-1
Duquesne 2-3
Furman 0-1
Harvard 26-45-2
Howard 1-0
Maine 5-0-1
Marist 2-0
Merrimack 1-1
Monmouth 2-3
Morgan St 2-0
New Hampshire 9-9 -- Great rivalry brewing here. Hope this game is played in more seasons than not.
Penn 3-2
Princeton 3-7 -- Wish HC played the non-New England Ivys a bit more.
Rhode Island 9-1 -- Great to see a home and home series developing here. Makes all the sense in the world with the schools only an hour or so from each other.
Richmond 1-0
Sacred Heart 3-0
San Diego 0-2
South Dakota St 0-2
Towson 4-5 -- Worth noting Towson was a PL member for a few years.
Villanova 9-14
VMI 2-0-1
Wagner 0-1
Western Carolina 0-1
William & Mary 2-0
Yale 7-29 -- Really mind boggling the futility HC has had over the years against Yale
DFW HOYA
June 5th, 2023, 04:36 PM
Georgetown vs. FBS schools, all time: 72-71-15
Georgetown vs. FCS schools other than PL and Ivy: 81-50-2
Georgetown vs. PL schools, since 2001: 25-102
I see we have a problem here...
mvemjsunpx
June 6th, 2023, 12:46 AM
Team (W-L, last meeting)
* - No longer FCS
† - No longer has football
Italics - Team is FCS now, but all meetings were played when team was not FCS
Abilene Christian (1-0, 1984)
Albany (2-0, 2007)
*Appalachian St. (3-1, 2013)
*Boise St. (9-16, 1995)
Cal Poly (18-5, 2022)
†Cal St. Northridge (4-1, 2000)
*Coastal Carolina (0-1, 2013)
Delaware (0-1, 1993)
Dixie St./Utah Tech (1-0, 2021)
Drake (1-0, 2018)
East Tennessee St. (1-0, 1996)
Eastern Illinois (1-0, 2000)
Eastern Kentucky (1-0, 1995)
Eastern Washington (30-18, 2022)
Furman (1-0, 2001)
*Georgia Southern (1-2, 2000)
†Hofstra (3-1, 2004)
Idaho (30-56-2, 2022)
Idaho St. (47-13, 2022)
Indiana St. (1-0, 2022)
Jackson St. (1-0, 1989)
*Jacksonville St. (1-0, 1993)
*James Madison (1-2, 2021)
*Liberty (1-1, 2015)
Maine (2-0, 2004)
*Marshall (1-1, 1996)
McNeese St. (3-3, 2006)
Mississippi Valley St. (1-0, 2016)
Monmouth (1-0, 2019)
Montana St. (73-42-5, 2022)
New Hampshire (1-0, 2004)
Nicholls St. (1-0, 1996)
North Alabama (1-0, 2019)
North Dakota (15-9-1, 2018)
North Dakota St. (4-6, 2022)
North Texas (1-0, 1994)
Northern Arizona (37-14, 2021)
Northern Colorado (15-2, 2021)
Northern Iowa (6-0, 2018)
Northwestern St. (4-0, 2022)
Portland St. (33-13, 2022)
Richmond (1-1, 2008)
Sacramento St. (20-4, 2022)
*Sam Houston St. (3-1, 2004)
St. Francis (PA) (1-0, 2016)
†St. Mary's (2-0, 2001)
San Diego (1-1, 2014)
*Savannah St. (1-0, 2017)
South Dakota (14-6, 2022)
South Dakota St. (8-0, 2015)
Southeastern Louisiana (1-0, 2019)
Southern Illinois (1-0, 2006)
Southern Utah (8-2, 2021)
Stephen F. Austin (4-0, 2009)
*Texas St. (1-0, 2008)
*Troy (St.) (1-0, 1996)
UC Davis (8-1, 2019)
Valparaiso (1-0, 2017)
Villanova (0-1, 2009)
Weber St. (40-16, 2022)
Western Illinois (2-3, 2021)
Wofford (0-1, 2007)
Youngstown St. (0-2, 1999)
McCowboys
June 6th, 2023, 06:39 AM
Team (W-L, last meeting)
* - No longer FCS
† - No longer has football
Italics - Team is FCS now, but all meetings were played when team was not FCS
Abilene Christian (1-0, 1984)
Albany (2-0, 2007)
*Appalachian St. (3-1, 2013)
*Boise St. (9-16, 1995)
Cal Poly (18-5, 2022)
†Cal St. Northridge (4-1, 2000)
*Coastal Carolina (0-1, 2013)
Delaware (0-1, 1993)
Dixie St./Utah Tech (1-0, 2021)
Drake (1-0, 2018)
East Tennessee St. (1-0, 1996)
Eastern Illinois (1-0, 2000)
Eastern Kentucky (1-0, 1995)
Eastern Washington (30-18, 2022)
Furman (1-0, 2001)
*Georgia Southern (1-2, 2000)
†Hofstra (3-1, 2004)
Idaho (30-56-2, 2022)
Idaho St. (47-13, 2022)
Indiana St. (1-0, 2022)
Jackson St. (1-0, 1989)
*Jacksonville St. (1-0, 1993)
*James Madison (1-2, 2021)
*Liberty (1-1, 2015)
Maine (2-0, 2004)
*Marshall (1-1, 1996)
McNeese St. (3-3, 2006)
Mississippi Valley St. (1-0, 2016)
Monmouth (1-0, 2019)
Montana St. (73-42-5, 2022)
New Hampshire (1-0, 2004)
Nicholls St. (1-0, 1996)
North Alabama (1-0, 2019)
North Dakota (15-9-1, 2018)
North Dakota St. (4-6, 2022)
North Texas (1-0, 1994)
Northern Arizona (37-14, 2021)
Northern Colorado (15-2, 2021)
Northern Iowa (6-0, 2018)
Northwestern St. (4-0, 2022)
Portland St. (33-13, 2022)
Richmond (1-1, 2008)
Sacramento St. (20-4, 2022)
*Sam Houston St. (3-1, 2004)
St. Francis (PA) (1-0, 2016)
†St. Mary's (2-0, 2001)
San Diego (1-1, 2014)
*Savannah St. (1-0, 2017)
South Dakota (14-6, 2022)
South Dakota St. (8-0, 2015)
Southeastern Louisiana (1-0, 2019)
Southern Illinois (1-0, 2006)
Southern Utah (8-2, 2021)
Stephen F. Austin (4-0, 2009)
*Texas St. (1-0, 2008)
*Troy (St.) (1-0, 1996)
UC Davis (8-1, 2019)
Valparaiso (1-0, 2017)
Villanova (0-1, 2009)
Weber St. (40-16, 2022)
Western Illinois (2-3, 2021)
Wofford (0-1, 2007)
Youngstown St. (0-2, 1999)
Very impressive! I have always had lots of respect for Montana. Go Griz!
bonarae
June 6th, 2023, 06:50 AM
Harvard (Harvard's record follows the team name):
NOW D-III:
Amherst - 24-1
Bates - 23-0
Bowdoin - 17-0
Centre College - 2-1
UChicago - 2-0 (both games played in the waning years of Maroons football pre-WWII)
Coast Guard - 3-0
Colby - 3-0
Geneva - 0-1
Middlebury - 4-0-1
MIT - 15-0 (19th century)
Renssaeler - 1-0
Rochester Yellow Jackets - 1-0
Springfield - 14-0
Trinity Bantams - 3-0 (do not confuse with the Trinity Tigers of Texas...)
Tufts - 15-4
Washington and Jefferson - 1-0
Washington St. Louis - 1-0
Wesleyan - 17-1
Williams College - 30-0
WPI - 2-0 (19th century)
NOW FBS:
Army - 19-18-2
BC - 3-0-1
Buffalo Bulls - 1-1
UConn - 1-0 (1946!)
Florida Gators - 3-0
UGA - 1-0
Indiana Hoosiers - 2-0
UMass - 11-8-1 (Harvard lost last two games in this series so far, and with a losing record in UMass' I-AA days.)
Michigan - 4-4 (Wow...)
Navy - 1-1-3 xeyebrowx
Tar Heels - 2-0
Ohio U - 3-0
Oregon Ducks - 1-0 (Harvard's ONLY bowl game was a win!)
Penn State - 3-0-2
Purdue - 0-1
Rutgers - 2-3
Stanford - 0-1
Texas Longhorns - 1-0
Vandy - 1-0
UVa - 8-1
EX-FCS:
BU - 8-4 (Harvard lost its last two games in this series, both in the I-AA era.)
Northeastern (I refer to this team as the Boston Huskies here on AGS) - 7-1 (in the same year those Huskies shut down Ohio U, we lost a close game to them 17-14.)
Vermont - 2-0
PL:
Bucknell - 6-3-1
Colgate -5-4
Fordham - 2-2
Georgetown - 5-0
Holy Cross - 45-26-2
Lafayette - 18-3
Lehigh - 8-8
PFL:
Davidson - 3-0 (last was in 1953!)
USD Toreros - 3-1
Valpo - 1-0 (1920)
OTHER CURRENT FCS PLAYING TEAMS:
Howard - 2-0
Maine - 11-0 (none since the League of Nations days xbawlingx)
Merrimack - 1-0
UNH - 7-0 (none since US started in WWII)
Rhody - 3-2
W&M - 4-4-2
bonarae
June 6th, 2023, 07:08 AM
ETSU (I am quite confused on where the lower-division teams currently play but I have done my best):
Ex-SoCon:
App - 13-33-1
Elon - 2-1
Georgia Southern - 5-9
Marshall - 4-13
FBS:
Auburn - 0-1
UCF - 0-2
Clumpson - 0-1
ECU - 4-6-1
EMU - 0-1
Jacksonville State - 1-2
Kentucky - 0-1
Liberty - 4-0-1
Louisiana Tech - 1-3
Memphis - 0-2
Miami Hurricanes - 0-1
MTSU - 12-23-1
Mississippi State - 0-2
Montana Griz - 0-1
Montana State - 0-1
NC State - 1-2
NIU - 0-1
Pitt - 0-1
USC Gamecocks - 0-1
Tennessee Vols - 0-1
UTEP - 0-1
Toledo - 0-1
Troy State - 0-1
Tulsa - 0-1
Vandy - 1-1
Virginia Tech - 0-2
WKU - 6-18-2
Other FCS:
Austin Peay - 15-12-2
Davidson - 2-0
Delaware State - 1-0
EKU - 9-20-2
Gardner-Webb - 2-2
Kennesaw State - 2-1
Morehead State - 16-12
Murray State - 9-9-3
UNA - 1-5
NC A&T - 0-1
NDSU - 0-1
RMU - 2-1
St. Francis Red Flash - 0-1
SLU - 1-1
UTM - 1-0
TTU - 18-14
Villanova - 1-0
W&M - 1-1
D-II (ETSU played in D-II before moving up):
Bluefield - 3-2-1
California (Pennsylvania) - 1-0
Carson-Newman - 10-20-1
Concord - 1-2
Lenoir-Rhyne - 0-2
Limestone - 1-0
Lincoln Memorial - 2-2-1
Mars Hill - 9-2-1
Maryville - 15-9
Newberry - 2-0
Shorter - 1-0
Tusculum - 17-4-3
Valdosta State - 1-0
Virginia Wise - 1-0
D-III / NAIA:
Brevard - 1-0
Catawba - 1-0
Cumberland - 7-1
Emory and Henry - 9-11
Erskine - 1-3
Georgetown Kentucky - 1-0
Guilford - 1-0
Hiwassee (now extinct?) - 4-5
Kentucky Wesleyan - 1-0
King's (not sure if correct) - 3-9
Lees-McRae - 2-0
Maryville Tech (extinct) - 1-0
Milligan - 6-7-2
Mississippi College - 0-1
Murphy College (extinct) - 1-0
Parsons College (extinct?) - 0-0-1
Rutherford - 1-0
Salem - 1-0
Tennessee Wesleyan - 5-0 (extinct?)
Union Kentucky - 4-4-1
Warner - 1-0
Weaver College - 1-1 (extinct?)
WV Tech - 1-0
WV Wesleyan - 1-0
bulldog10jw
June 6th, 2023, 07:54 PM
Yale 7-29 -- Really mind boggling the futility HC has had over the years against Yale
Not lately
PaladinNation
June 7th, 2023, 05:36 PM
geez… I thought I could quickly build out an all-time OOC list for Furman, yikes.
Some interesting series records with FBS teams (granted some of these matchups were many years ago)
Central Florida 2-0
Duke 2-1
Memphis St 1-0
Mississippi 1-0
North Carolina St 8-5
South Carolina 20-28-1
Virginia 1-0
Wake Forest 11-7
FUBeAR
June 7th, 2023, 08:57 PM
geez… I thought I could quickly build out an all-time OOC list for Furman, yikes.
Some interesting series records with FBS teams (granted some of these matchups were many years ago)
Central Florida 2-0
Duke 2-1
Memphis St 1-0
Mississippi 1-0
North Carolina St 8-5
South Carolina 20-28-1
Virginia 1-0
Wake Forest 11-7Figured out a way to do this from the FU Source data…but it was still A LOT of tedious fiddlin’ - so FUBeAR decided to gain some insight by grouping the data…
Grouped into current Divsion / Group / FCS Conference and results calculated. Results are calculated over ‘life’ of series regardless of what division either Team was in when the game was played. These are grouped to the best of FUBeAR’s off-the-top-of-his-furry-head knowledge. If you see anything wrong and care to tell me, I’ll move it and recalculate…maybe.
Opponent W-L-T
Current SoCon Teams
Chattanooga 31-21-0
The Citadel 61–37-3
East Tennessee State 28-9-0
Mercer 11-8-2
Samford 13-12-0
VMI 30-10-0
Western Carolina 35-13-2
Wofford 56-33-7
Total FU vs. SoCon 265-143-14 (.645)
Current other FCS Teams / Conferences
Current Big Sky Teams
Idaho 1-0-0
Montana 0-1-0
Montana State 0-1-0
Northern Arizona 1-0-0
Total FU vs. Big Sky 2-2 (.500)
Current Big South Teams
Charleston Southern 2-0-0
Gardner-Webb 4-1-0
Total FU vs. Big South 6-1-0 (.857)
Current CAA Teams
Delaware 2-0-0
Elon 13-8-0
North Carolina A&T 1-0-0
Rhode Island 1-0-0
Richmond 10-15-0
Villanova 0-2-0
William & Mary 8-7-0
Total FU vs. CAA Teams 35-32-0 (.522)
Current MEAC Teams
Howard 1-0-0
South Carolina State 12-5-0
Total FU vs. MEAC Teams 13-5-0 (.722)
Current MVFC Teams
North Dakota State 0-1-0
Youngstown State 1-0-0
Total FU vs. MVFC Teams 1-1-0 (.500)
Current OVC Teams
Tennessee Tech 2–1-0
Total FU vs. OVC Teams 2-1-0 (.667)
Current Patriot League Teams
Bucknell 0-4-0
Colgate 3-0-0
Georgetown 0-1-0
Holy Cross 1-0-0
Lehigh 3-0-0
Total FU vs. Patriot League Teams 7-5-0 (.583)
Current PFL Teams
Davidson 39-15-0
Presbyterian 43-12-1
Stetson 0-2-0
Total FU vs. PFL Teams 82-29-1 (.737)
Current Southland Teams
Incarnate Word 0-1-0
Nicholls State 1-0-0
Southwestern Louisiana 0-1-0
Total FU vs. Southland Teams 1-2-0 (.333)
Current UAC Teams
Austin Peay 0-1-0
Eastern Kentucky 1-1-0
Stephen F. Austin 0-1-0
Total FU vs. UAC Teams 1-3-0 (.250)
Total FU vs. FCS Non-SoCon 150-81-1 (.649)
Total FU vs. SoCon 265-143-14 (.645)
Total FU vs. FCS 415-224-15 (.646)
Current FBS P5 Teams
Alabama 0-5-0
Auburn 0-4-0
Clemson 10-44-4
Duke 2-1-0
Florida 2-7-0
Florida State 2-8-0
Georgia 2-21-0
Georgia Tech 2-10-3
Louisville 0-1-0
Miami (Fla.) 1-2-0
Michigan State 0-1-0
Mississippi 1-0-0
Missouri 0-1-0
North Carolina 1-5-0
North Carolina State 8-6-4
Penn State 0-1-0
Pittsburgh 0-1-0
South Carolina 20-28-1
Tennessee 0-2-0
Vanderbilt 1-2-0
Virginia 1-0-0
Virginia Tech 0-7-0
Wake Forest 11-7-0
West Virginia 1-3-0
Total FU vs. P5 Teams 65-167-12 (.291)
Current FBS G5 Teams
Appalachian State 23-18-3
Army 0-5-0
Central Florida 2-0
Coastal Carolina 1-7-0
Connecticut 2-0-0
East Carolina 3-11-0
Georgia Southern 9-16-0
Georgia State 0-1-0
Jacksonville State 3-0-0
James Madison 2-1-0
Kennesaw State 0-1-0
Liberty 3-0-0
Marshall 15-8-0
Massachusetts 0-1-0
Memphis State 1-0-0
Nevada 1-1-0
Ohio 0-1-0
Western Kentucky 1-0-0
Wyoming 0-1-0
FU Total vs. FBS G5 Teams 66-72-3 (.479)
Total FU vs. P5 Teams 65-167-12 (.291)
Total FU vs. FBS Teams 131-239-15 (.360)
‘Other’ Teams
Bailey 2-0-0
Bingham 2-1-0
Boston University 1-0-0
Carson-Newman 4-1-1
Centre 2-0-0
Charleston Ath. Assoc. 0-0-1
Charleston YMCA 1-0-0
Clemson “B” 1-0-0
Clemson “C” 1-0-0
College of Charleston 2-0-0
Davis-Elkins 1-0-1
Erskine 14-0-2
48th Infantry 2-0-0
Frederick 1-0-0
George Washington 6-8-1
Guilford 2-0-0
Hofstra 1-2-0
Lenoir-Rhyne 2-0-0
Mars Hill 3-0-0
Maryville 0-1-0
Mississippi College 5-2-0
Newberry 23-5-0
North Greenville 1-0-0
Oglethorpe 6-3-0
Parsons 0-1-0
Piedmont 1-0-0
Point 1-0-0
Riverside 0-1-0
St. Albans 0-0-1
2nd Development Reg 0-1-0
Tampa 0-3-1
Washington & Lee 2-3-0
West Georgia 1-0-0
Total FU vs. ‘ Other’ 88-32-8 (.719)
Total FU Overall 634-495-38 (.560)
AmsterBison
June 8th, 2023, 09:38 AM
Can't vouch for this 100% but..
NDSU is 85-7 (.924) against OOC FCS opponents since starting in the FCS (unlike the NCAA, I include the four probationary years). NDSU is 36-3 (.923) versus OOC FCS opponents in the playoffs.
Only 3 of the 50 OOC FCS teams that NDSU has played has a W. NDSU's record against those three teams is 13-4 (.765) with two of those losses coming in the playoffs versus the eventual national champion.
Descr
WLT
Austin Peay
1-0
Butler
1-0
Cal Poly-SLO
1-0
Central Arkansas
1-0
Central Connecticut State
1-0
Charleston Southern
1-0
Coastal Carolina
2-0
Colgate
1-0
Delaware
2-0
Delaware State
1-0
Drake
1-0
East Tennessee State
1-0
Eastern Washington
4-1
Furman
1-0
Georgia Southern
3-0
Illinois State
1-0
Incarnate Word
2-0
Jacksonville State
1-0
James Madison
4-1
Lafayette College
1-0
Lehigh
1-0
Mississippi Valley State
3-0
Montana
3-1
Montana State
4-1
Morgan State
1-0
New Hampshire
1-0
Nicholls State
3-0
North Alabama
1-0
North Carolina A&T
1-0
North Dakota
2-0
Northeastern
1-0
Northwestern State (LA)
2-0
Prairie View A&M
1-0
Richmond
1-0
Robert Morris
3-0
Sam Houston State
5-2
Samford
1-0
San Diego
2-0
South Dakota
1-0
Southern Illinois
0-1
St. Francis (PA)
1-0
Stephen F. Austin
2-0
SUNY-Albany
1-0
Towson
2-0
UC Davis
1-0
Valparaiso
2-0
Wagner
1-0
Weber State
4-0
Western Illinois
1-0
Wofford
2-0
Corrected a playoff stat.
FUBeAR
June 8th, 2023, 09:56 AM
Can't vouch for this 100% but..
NDSU is 85-7 (.924) against OOC FCS opponents since starting in the FCS (unlike the NCAA, I include the four probationary years)
Only 3 of the 50 OOC FCS teams that NDSU has played has a W. NDSU's record against those three teams is 13-4 (.765) with two of those losses coming in the playoffs versus the eventual national champion. Montana and EWU are the only FCS teams to have a regular season OOC win versus NDSU.
Descr
WLT
Austin Peay
1-0
Butler
1-0
Cal Poly-SLO
1-0
Central Arkansas
1-0
Central Connecticut State
1-0
Charleston Southern
1-0
Coastal Carolina
2-0
Colgate
1-0
Delaware
2-0
Delaware State
1-0
Drake
1-0
East Tennessee State
1-0
Eastern Washington
4-1
Furman
1-0
Georgia Southern
3-0
Illinois State
1-0
Incarnate Word
2-0
Jacksonville State
1-0
James Madison
4-1
Lafayette College
1-0
Lehigh
1-0
Mississippi Valley State
3-0
Montana
3-1
Montana State
4-1
Morgan State
1-0
New Hampshire
1-0
Nicholls State
3-0
North Alabama
1-0
North Carolina A&T
1-0
North Dakota
2-0
Northeastern
1-0
Northwestern State (LA)
2-0
Prairie View A&M
1-0
Richmond
1-0
Robert Morris
3-0
Sam Houston State
5-2
Samford
1-0
San Diego
2-0
South Dakota
1-0
Southern Illinois
0-1
St. Francis (PA)
1-0
Stephen F. Austin
2-0
SUNY-Albany
1-0
Towson
2-0
UC Davis
1-0
Valparaiso
2-0
Wagner
1-0
Weber State
4-0
Western Illinois
1-0
Wofford
2-0
Just curious - without too much difficulty, can you break that down into Home & Away W-L record w/percentages?
AmsterBison
June 8th, 2023, 10:16 AM
Just curious - without too much difficulty, can you break that down into Home & Away W-L record w/percentages?
Regular season:
11-4 Away
37-0 Home
1-0 "Neutral"
Playoffs:
1-2 Away
27-1 Home
9-0 Neutral
Since the initial struggles with scheduling during the probationary period, NDSU has tried to only do away games with top programs - NDSU's OOC road games since being playoff eligible have been against Sam Houston State, Montana, Weber State, Towson, Delaware, and Eastern Washington (went 4-2). NDSU is 6-3 vs P5 teams in away games for comparison.
In the playoffs, NDSU only lost to the eventual national champion in away games - and it makes sense to have a losing record because winning on the road is hard enough but in the playoffs, the lesser team is supposed to be the one traveling.
FUBeAR
June 8th, 2023, 10:37 AM
Regular season:
11-4 Away
37-0 Home
1-0 "Neutral"
Playoffs:
1-2 Away
27-1 Home
9-0 Neutral
So…
* 86% of the bizuns OOC losses have been Away games.
* And, the bizuns have lost 67% of the Playoff games they have played at an Opponent’s Home stadium.
* And, less than 20% of the bizuns overall OOC games have been Away games.
* And, less than 8% of the bizuns OOC Playoff games have been Away games.
Got it.
AmsterBison
June 8th, 2023, 10:59 AM
So…
* 86% of the bizuns OOC losses have been Away games.
* And, the bizuns have lost 67% of the Playoff games they have played at an Opponent’s Home stadium.
* And, less than 20% of the bizuns overall OOC games have been Away games.
* And, less than 8% of the bizuns OOC Playoff games have been Away games.
Got it.
Well, when talking about NDSU OOC losses, you are already dealing with a extremely small sample size which makes it improbable that you could conclude anything with any amount of certainty.
But here's a pro-tip for free: If you don't want to play road playoff games, make your conference one of the toughest in the FCS, win at least twice as often against P5 teams as you lose, and win 90% of your regular season games. It also helps to go undefeated.
Edit: I hate to waste this query
OOC Teams NDSU has beat since 2010 in regular season away games: Kansas, Minnesota, Colorado State, Kansas State, Weber State, Iowa State, Iowa, Eastern Washington, Delaware, and Towson
OOC Teams NDSU has lost to since 2010 (regular season away games): Montana and Arizona.
OOC Teams NDSU has beat to since 2010 (away playoff games): Montana State
OOC Teams NDSU has lost to since 2010 (away playoff games): Eastern Washington (in OT to the eventual national champion), Sam Houston (by 4 to the eventual national champion)
SFA 93
June 9th, 2023, 06:54 PM
SFA
ALABAMA STATE 1-0-0
ALBANY 1-0-0
ALCORN STATE 4-0-0
APPALACHIAN STATE 1-0-0
ARKANSAS STATE 0-2-0
BOISE STATE 1-4-0
EASTERN ILLINOIS 1-0-0
EASTERN KENTUCKY 2-0-0
FURMAN 1-0-0
GARDNER-WEBB 1-0-0
GEORGIA SOUTHERN 0-2-0
GRAMBLING STATE 1-0-0
HOUSTON CHRISTIAN 4-1-0
ILLINOIS STATE 1-0-0
JACKSON STATE 3-2-0
JACKSONVILLE STATE 3-3-0
LAMAR 15-19-2
LOUISIANA TECH 1-5-0
MCNEESE STATE 13-17-2
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY STATE 1-0-0
MISSOURI STATE 1-0-0
MONTANA 0-4-0
MONTANA STATE 0-4-0
NICHOLLS STATE 19-11-0
NORTH DAKOTA STATE 0-2-0
NORTHERN ARIZONA 1-1-0
NORTHWESTERN STATE 25-41-3
PRAIRIE VIEW A&M 5-1-0
SACRAMENTO STATE 1-0-0
SAMFORD 2-0-0
SOUTH DAKOTA STATE 0-2-0
SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA 11-9-1
TEXAS A&M - CORPUS CHRISTI 2-0-0
TEXAS A&M - COMMERCE 12-43-1
TEXAS SOUTHERN 1-0-0
TEXAS STATE 26-53-1
TROY 3-2-0
UCDAVIS 1-0-0
IDAHO 0-2-0
LOUISIANA 1-14-1
LOUISIANA - MONROE 5-13-0
NEVADA 1-2-0
NEW HAMPSHIRE 1-1-0
NORTH DAKOTA 1-0-0
NORTH TEXAS 4-22-3
NORTHERN IOWA 3-7-0
UIW 5-2-0
UT-ARLINGTON 1-3-1
VILLANOVA 0-1-0
WESTERN ILLINOIS 1-2-0
YOUNGSTOWN STATE 2-1-1
McCowboys
June 9th, 2023, 08:43 PM
SFA
ALABAMA STATE 1-0-0
ALBANY 1-0-0
ALCORN STATE 4-0-0
APPALACHIAN STATE 1-0-0
ARKANSAS STATE 0-2-0
BOISE STATE 1-4-0
EASTERN ILLINOIS 1-0-0
EASTERN KENTUCKY 2-0-0
FURMAN 1-0-0
GARDNER-WEBB 1-0-0
GEORGIA SOUTHERN 0-2-0
GRAMBLING STATE 1-0-0
HOUSTON CHRISTIAN 4-1-0
ILLINOIS STATE 1-0-0
JACKSON STATE 3-2-0
JACKSONVILLE STATE 3-3-0
LAMAR 15-19-2
LOUISIANA TECH 1-5-0
MCNEESE STATE 13-17-2
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY STATE 1-0-0
MISSOURI STATE 1-0-0
MONTANA 0-4-0
MONTANA STATE 0-4-0
NICHOLLS STATE 19-11-0
NORTH DAKOTA STATE 0-2-0
NORTHERN ARIZONA 1-1-0
NORTHWESTERN STATE 25-41-3
PRAIRIE VIEW A&M 5-1-0
SACRAMENTO STATE 1-0-0
SAMFORD 2-0-0
SOUTH DAKOTA STATE 0-2-0
SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA 11-9-1
TEXAS A&M - CORPUS CHRISTI 2-0-0
TEXAS A&M - COMMERCE 12-43-1
TEXAS SOUTHERN 1-0-0
TEXAS STATE 26-53-1
TROY 3-2-0
UCDAVIS 1-0-0
IDAHO 0-2-0
LOUISIANA 1-14-1
LOUISIANA - MONROE 5-13-0
NEVADA 1-2-0
NEW HAMPSHIRE 1-1-0
NORTH DAKOTA 1-0-0
NORTH TEXAS 4-22-3
NORTHERN IOWA 3-7-0
UIW 5-2-0
UT-ARLINGTON 1-3-1
VILLANOVA 0-1-0
WESTERN ILLINOIS 1-2-0
YOUNGSTOWN STATE 2-1-1
Thank God for basketball! ;-)
NY Crusader 2010
June 11th, 2023, 07:47 AM
Harvard (Harvard's record follows the team name):
NOW D-III:
Amherst - 24-1
Bates - 23-0
Bowdoin - 17-0
Centre College - 2-1
UChicago - 2-0 (both games played in the waning years of Maroons football pre-WWII)
Coast Guard - 3-0
Colby - 3-0
Geneva - 0-1
Middlebury - 4-0-1
MIT - 15-0 (19th century)
Renssaeler - 1-0
Rochester Yellow Jackets - 1-0
Springfield - 14-0
Trinity Bantams - 3-0 (do not confuse with the Trinity Tigers of Texas...)
Tufts - 15-4
Washington and Jefferson - 1-0
Washington St. Louis - 1-0
Wesleyan - 17-1
Williams College - 30-0
WPI - 2-0 (19th century)
NOW FBS:
Army - 19-18-2
BC - 3-0-1
Buffalo Bulls - 1-1
UConn - 1-0 (1946!)
Florida Gators - 3-0
UGA - 1-0
Indiana Hoosiers - 2-0
UMass - 11-8-1 (Harvard lost last two games in this series so far, and with a losing record in UMass' I-AA days.)
Michigan - 4-4 (Wow...)
Navy - 1-1-3 xeyebrowx
Tar Heels - 2-0
Ohio U - 3-0
Oregon Ducks - 1-0 (Harvard's ONLY bowl game was a win!)
Penn State - 3-0-2
Purdue - 0-1
Rutgers - 2-3
Stanford - 0-1
Texas Longhorns - 1-0
Vandy - 1-0
UVa - 8-1
EX-FCS:
BU - 8-4 (Harvard lost its last two games in this series, both in the I-AA era.)
Northeastern (I refer to this team as the Boston Huskies here on AGS) - 7-1 (in the same year those Huskies shut down Ohio U, we lost a close game to them 17-14.)
Vermont - 2-0
PL:
Bucknell - 6-3-1
Colgate -5-4
Fordham - 2-2
Georgetown - 5-0
Holy Cross - 45-26-2
Lafayette - 18-3
Lehigh - 8-8
PFL:
Davidson - 3-0 (last was in 1953!)
USD Toreros - 3-1
Valpo - 1-0 (1920)
OTHER CURRENT FCS PLAYING TEAMS:
Howard - 2-0
Maine - 11-0 (none since the League of Nations days xbawlingx)
Merrimack - 1-0
UNH - 7-0 (none since US started in WWII)
Rhody - 3-2
W&M - 4-4-2
So Harvard is a combined 140-2 all-time against Amherst, Bates, Bowdoin, Springfield, MIT, Wesleyan and Williams. If AGS existed in the 1890's, we REALLY would've been screaming about how you guys needed to upgrade the OOC schedule!
Sitting Bull
June 11th, 2023, 09:33 AM
W&M top 20
Richmond. 64-64-5
VMI. 53-33-2
*Virginia Tech. 18-42-4
*Virginia. 6-31-1
Delaware. 19-25
*JMU. 17-27
*Navy. 6-35-1
Villanova. 20-16-1
The Citadel. 18-7
New Hampshire. 15-6
*NC State. 8-13
*Wake Forest. 9-10-1
Rhode Island. 16-3
*East Carolina. 4-13-1
Towson. 11-7
*West Virginia. 0-16-1
Maine. 8-8
Furman. 7-8
*North Carolina. 0-13-2
Davidson. 9-4-1
*FBS
Sitting Bull
June 11th, 2023, 10:09 AM
W&M vs FCS OOC (Primary)
Ivy
Brown. 1-1
Columbia. 0-1
Dartmouth. 6-1
Harvard. 4-4-2
Penn. 6-1
Princeton. 2-1-1
Yale. 1-1
So Con
App State. 2-1
Chattanooga. 1-1
The Citadel. 18-7
Furman. 7-8
Georgia Southern. 1-1
Marshall. 2-1
Samford. 0-1
VMI. 53-33-2
Wofford. 2-0
Patriot
Bucknell. 6-0
Colgate. 8-4
Georgetown. 1-2
Holy Cross. 0-2
Lafayette. 6-1
Lehigh. 8-1
Big Sky
Montana State. 0-1
Weber State. 1-0
MV
Northern Iowa 0-1
Southern Illinois. 1-0.
Southland
McNeese. 0-1
Gil Dobie
June 11th, 2023, 10:47 AM
So…
* 86% of the bizuns OOC losses have been Away games.
* And, the bizuns have lost 67% of the Playoff games they have played at an Opponent’s Home stadium.
* And, less than 20% of the bizuns overall OOC games have been Away games.
* And, less than 8% of the bizuns OOC Playoff games have been Away games.
Got it.
Thank for you interest in NSDU football.
bulldog10jw
June 11th, 2023, 11:55 AM
So Harvard is a combined 140-2 all-time against Amherst, Bates, Bowdoin, Springfield, MIT, Wesleyan and Williams. If AGS existed in the 1890's, we REALLY would've been screaming about how you guys needed to upgrade the OOC schedule!
Who else was there to play in the 19th century that didn't involve travel which would of necessity been on a train and may have taken days?
NY Crusader 2010
June 11th, 2023, 02:52 PM
Who else was there to play in the 19th century that didn't involve travel which would of necessity been on a train and may have taken days?
There wasn't. This was the norm back in those days, probably until the late 1920's or early 1930's. The infamous 222-0 Georgia Tech-Cumberland game was sometime around WWI.
I wonder if any team travel took place by horse and buggy back then...or was it all rail?
ElCid
June 11th, 2023, 06:16 PM
There wasn't. This was the norm back in those days, probably until the late 1920's or early 1930's. The infamous 222-0 Georgia Tech-Cumberland game was sometime around WWI.
I wonder if any team travel took place by horse and buggy back then...or was it all rail?
Trains were everywhere by then. It was the interstate of it's day. Pretty sure anything out of town would be by rail probably into the 50s for most schools. Maybe semi local games were by some other means. It's a cool topic though.
McCowboys
June 11th, 2023, 06:35 PM
There wasn't. This was the norm back in those days, probably until the late 1920's or early 1930's. The infamous 222-0 Georgia Tech-Cumberland game was sometime around WWI.
I wonder if any team travel took place by horse and buggy back then...or was it all rail?
Regardless of transportation and how it has improved, things haven't changed much as far as scheduling goes for some of the schools in that region. Rarely are teams west of the Mississippi on the schedules.
bulldog10jw
June 11th, 2023, 09:18 PM
I wonder if any team travel took place by horse and buggy back then...or was it all rail?
I assume most of the cities where colleges in the east were located, even back then, were already on major rail lines.
Sader87
June 12th, 2023, 11:40 AM
Holy Cross is 3-0 lifetime against Georgia....as Casey Stengel would say, you can look it up. xdrunkyx
AmsterBison
June 12th, 2023, 12:39 PM
NDSU vs Non-Conference, Regular Season:
Conference
W-L
Avg Score
Atlantic 10 Conference
1-0
23-10
Big 10 Conference
3-1
24-19
Big 12 Conference
3-1
20-18
Big Sky Conference
10-2
34-16
Big South Conference
2-0
34-10
Colonial Athletic Association
4-0
37-11
FCS Independent
2-0
38-7
Frontier Conference
1-0
56-3
Great Lakes Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
1-0
56-10
Great West Football Conference
1-0
38-16
Gulf South Conference
1-0
59-7
Mid-American Conference
2-0
36-19
Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference
2-0
43-4
Missouri Valley Football Conference
2-1
32-22
Mountain West Conference
1-1
18-12
Northeast Conference
5-0
55-9
Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference
1-0
66-7
Ohio Valley Conference
1-0
41-6
Pacific 12 Conference
0-1
28-31
Patriot League
1-0
42-6
Pioneer Football Conference
3-0
59-8
Pioneer Football Conference
1-0
52-0
South Atlantic Conference
1-0
49-19
Southern Conference
1-0
34-14
Southland Conference
9-1
34-19
Southwestern Athletic Conference
4-0
60-5
AmsterBison
June 12th, 2023, 12:43 PM
NDSU vs Non-Conference, Playoffs:
Conference
W-L
Avg Score
Big Sky Conference
8-1
41-18
Big South Conference
2-0
44-23
Colonial Athletic Association
7-1
28-14
Northeast Conference
1-0
43-17
Ohio Valley Conference
1-0
37-10
Patriot League
2-0
30-0
Pioneer Football Conference
2-0
42-5
Southern Conference
7-0
29-9
Southland Conference
5-1
34-12
Western Athletic Conference
1-0
35-32
orygunbison2
June 12th, 2023, 12:58 PM
Montana and EWU are the only FCS teams to have a regular season OOC win versus NDSU.
I must be having a senior moment. I don't remember a regular season lost to EWU. Am I just forgetting?
Go Green
June 12th, 2023, 01:59 PM
I assume most of the cities where colleges in the east were located, even back then, were already on major rail lines.
I'm pretty sure the nearest train station for Hanover was in White River Junction--a good six or seven miles away.
bulldog10jw
June 12th, 2023, 08:21 PM
I'm pretty sure the nearest train station for Hanover was in White River Junction--a good six or seven miles away.
Wonder how Yale got to Hanover from WRJ that first game in the 1880's.
By the way, Yale Field, the predecessor of the Yale Bowl was across the street from the Bowl's current location. It was probably a few miles from the train station. I assume a lot of walking was involved in getting to those early games for players and fans.
NY Crusader 2010
June 12th, 2023, 08:34 PM
Wonder how Yale got to Hanover from WRJ that first game in the 1880's.
By the way, Yale Field, the predecessor of the Yale Bowl was across the street from the Bowl's current location. It was probably a few miles from the train station. I assume a lot of walking was involved in getting to those early games for players and fans.
Would have to imagine carriages were involved when it came to moving equipment. Sorry, what equipment -- the ball?
AmsterBison
June 13th, 2023, 12:59 PM
Wonder how Yale got to Hanover from WRJ that first game in the 1880's.
By the way, Yale Field, the predecessor of the Yale Bowl was across the street from the Bowl's current location. It was probably a few miles from the train station. I assume a lot of walking was involved in getting to those early games for players and fans.
Intercity travel back then was almost all by train. And as evidence of a memory of that, I present Exhibit A: The Simpsons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX-k66VrmQo
It makes sense. NDSU's "close" game in Montana was around 750 miles away and nothing else would possibly work.
Bisonator
June 14th, 2023, 09:07 AM
I must be having a senior moment. I don't remember a regular season lost to EWU. Am I just forgetting?
No NDSU has never lost a regular season game to EWU.
AmsterBison
June 14th, 2023, 09:22 AM
No NDSU has never lost a regular season game to EWU.
I think I had a sentence all screwed up in an earlier post. Sam Houston State (2009), Southern Illinois (2005), Montana (2015), and Montana State (2005) are the OOC teams that have regular season wins against NDSU (all away games.)
It seems like NDSU must've lost a regular season game at home against an OOC opponent since joining DI, but I just can't think of it at the moment.
UAalum72
June 14th, 2023, 10:53 AM
Albany, since becoming Division I in 1999. OOC record 36-48
Opponent W L Last Meeting
Vs. Big Sky (0-3)
Montana 0 2 2007 (14-35, L)
Montana State 0 1 2019 (21-47, L)
Vs. Big South (2-2)
Stony Brook 1 1 2011 (28-31, L)
Monmouth 1 1 2019 (35-38, OT, L)
Vs. IVY (3-3)
Brown 0 2 2004 (7-35, L)
Columbia 2 0 2014 (42-7, W)
Cornell 0 1 2006 (21-23, L)
Yale 1 0 2010 (23-20, W)
Vs. Pioneer (1-2)
Dayton 0 1 2007 (21-42, L)
Drake 0 1 2002 (42-49, OT, L)
Jacksonville 1 0 2008 (28-0, W)
Vs. MAAC (3-0)
Canisius 2 0 2002 (24-22, W)
St. Peter’s 1 0 2003 (64-9, W)
Vs. NEC (while a member of CAA) (7-2)
Bryant 1 0 2019 (45-3, W)
Central Connecticut 2 1 2022 (45-26, W)
Duquesne 2 1 2015 (17-14, W) (Duq in MAAC in 2002, NEC 2013,15)
St. Francis (Pa.) 2 0 2018 (35-28, W)
Vs MEAC (3-1)
Hampton 0 1 2022 (37-38, OT L)
Morgan State 3 0 2021 (41-14, W)
Vs. Patriot (10-8)
Colgate 3 2 2014 (24-17, W)
Fordham 2 3 2022 (45-48, W)
Holy Cross 2 1 2016 (45-28, W)
Lafayette 1 0 2019 (36-7, W)
Lehigh 1 1 2006 (17-16, W)
Towson 1 1 2003 (16-35, L)
Vs. A -10/CAA (while a member of NEC) (5-13)
Delaware 1 1 2008 (7-38, L)
Hofstra 1 4 2008 (22-16, W)
Maine 3 2 2012 (30-20 .W)
Massachusetts 0 3 2009 (1-44, L)
New Hampshire 0 1 2008 (24-32, L)
Northeastern 0 2 2003 (0-51, L)
Vs. Southern Conference (0-1)
Georgia Southern 0 1 2009 (26-29, L)
Vs. Missouri Valley (0-2)
North Dakota State 0 1 2021 (6-28, L)
Youngstown State 0 1 2012 (24-31, L)
Vs. FBS and FCS Independent (1-9)
Florida Atlantic 0 1 2001 (9-27, L)
Florida International 0 1 2002 (26-35, L)
Old Dominion 0 2 2017 (31-17, L) (C-USA in 2017)
Baylor 0 1 2022 (10-69, L)
Central Michigan 0 1 2019 (21-38, L)
Buffalo 1-1 2016 (22-16, W)
Pittsburgh 0 1 2018 (7-33, L)
Syracuse 0 1 2021 (24-62, L)
Sub- D-I (1-2)
Mass.-Lowell 1 0 1999 (40-0, W)
Rowan 0 2 2000 (3-31, L)
Son of Eli
June 14th, 2023, 01:15 PM
Yale’s main OOC rivals in terms of games played are UConn and Army. Yale holds a winning records against both (32-18 vs UConn and 22-16-8 vs Army). This century Yale is 1-0 against Army (49-43 OT) and 0-1 vs UConn (21-15). Hoping for more games between Yale and these historic rivals in the near future.
Son of Eli
June 14th, 2023, 01:31 PM
W&M vs FCS OOC (Primary)
Ivy
Brown. 1-1
Columbia. 0-1
Dartmouth. 6-1
Harvard. 4-4-2
Penn. 6-1
Princeton. 2-1-1
Yale. 1-1
So Con
App State. 2-1
Chattanooga. 1-1
The Citadel. 18-7
Furman. 7-8
Georgia Southern. 1-1
Marshall. 2-1
Samford. 0-1
VMI. 53-33-2
Wofford. 2-0
Patriot
Bucknell. 6-0
Colgate. 8-4
Georgetown. 1-2
Holy Cross. 0-2
Lafayette. 6-1
Lehigh. 8-1
Big Sky
Montana State. 0-1
Weber State. 1-0
MV
Northern Iowa 0-1
Southern Illinois. 1-0.
Southland
McNeese. 0-1
I would like to see more games between the Ivy League and William & Mary.
crusader11
June 14th, 2023, 01:44 PM
I would like to see more games between the Ivy League and William & Mary.
Believe me, we are all hoping the Ivy League ramps up its OOC scheduling.
DFW HOYA
June 14th, 2023, 02:10 PM
W&M vs FCS OOC (Primary)
Georgetown. 1-2
How long ago was this? (Hint: Cary Field hadn't even been built.)
This is one of those rivalry games which makes too much sense, but Georgetown's lack of progress in the PL makes this a non-starter.
NY Crusader 2010
June 14th, 2023, 07:12 PM
How long ago was this? (Hint: Cary Field hadn't even been built.)
This is one of those rivalry games which makes too much sense, but Georgetown's lack of progress in the PL makes this a non-starter.
You guys can't even get Villanova to put you on their schedule even ONCE. Forget W&M, who would go back to making VMI an annual rivalry game in a heartbeat before ever agreeing to any sort of long-term scheduling agreement with Georgetown.
bulldog10jw
June 14th, 2023, 07:14 PM
I would like to see more games between the Ivy League and William & Mary.
I went to both games against W&M. The 1983 game was played in Norfolk (The Oyster Bowl) and both teams showed up wearing white uniforms. A bad Yale team (1-9) lost 26-14.
In 1987 the rematch was at the Bowl the week after Yale played in Hawaii. Yale won 40-34 scoring the winning TD with under a minute to play. That was the first hint that Yale was a pretty good team in 1987. I remember being jet lagged having returned from Hawaii the day before.
Son of Eli
June 14th, 2023, 07:23 PM
I went to both games against W&M. The 1983 game was played in Norfolk (The Oyster Bowl) and both teams showed up wearing white uniforms. A bad Yale team (1-9) lost 26-14.
In 1987 the rematch was at the Bowl the week after Yale played in Hawaii. Yale won 40-34 scoring the winning TD with under a minute to play. That was the first hint that Yale was a pretty good team in 1987. I remember being jet lagged having returned from Hawaii the day before.
Yale won that game on a RB TD pass
https://www.newspapers.com/article/daily-press-1987-yale-wm/57363523/
NY Crusader 2010
June 14th, 2023, 07:30 PM
Prior to joining the Yankee Conference in the early 1990's W&M was a I-AA independent for a while. They had more freedom to schedule back then. Now, they have 3 OOC games, one of which is always an FBS game. And up until about 10 years ago, VMI was an annual opponent. So for about a 20 year period, the Tribe really only had one open date each year to play with. More recently, they've had series with Lafayette, Colgate, Norfolk State and Campbell (who will soon be a CAA opp.). Would love to see W&M play Penn or Princeton again.
bulldog10jw
June 14th, 2023, 07:32 PM
Yale won that game on a RB TD pass
https://www.newspapers.com/article/daily-press-1987-yale-wm/57363523/
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Son of Eli again.
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