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SU DOG
May 9th, 2023, 11:27 AM
I like the top choice, but I will agree with FUBeAR even beforehand that Furman's QB should be a higher pick.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-top-returning-2023-quarterbacks-bzbz/

FUBeAR
May 9th, 2023, 11:37 AM
I like the top choice, but I will agree with FUBeAR even beforehand that Furman's QB should be a higher pick.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-top-returning-2023-quarterbacks-bzbz/Nah…that’s exactly where a typically uninformed, underinformed, and/or unknowledgeable media person would rank Huff. These are the same people who vote in polls and end up on Playoff Selection Committees. We’re very familiar with their work. They know stuff. They just don’t (really) know Football.

Understand everyone loving their own QB, but FUBeAR, speaking as objectively as possible, wouldn’t trade Huff for any 2 others on this list…or any 2 on any list of FBS QB’s either. He’s the David Durden (search NFL Draft 2023 Project X) of QB’s.


Hiers fully healed up? Did we ever get full, specific disclosure around the details of his hand/wrist injury incurred vs. Mercer in the final regular season game that seriously put the kibosh on Samford’s Playoff hopes in 2022?

SU DOG
May 9th, 2023, 12:43 PM
Michael incurred a broken wrist vs Mercer. He tried to go vs SELA but hit his hand on a helmet and it was totally numb. He was nowhere close to 100% vs NDSU but made a courageous attempt. During recent spring training he was said to be completely well and in mid-season form. Speaking objectively as possible, I wouldn't trade Michael Hiers for any other FCS QB and maybe not many FBS QBs.

Redbird 4th & short
May 9th, 2023, 04:05 PM
I like the top choice, but I will agree with FUBeAR even beforehand that Furman's QB should be a higher pick.

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-top-returning-2023-quarterbacks-bzbz/

Going to guess Sam Herder followed our previous thread on this same topic .. top returning FCS QBs where UNIs Theo Day was mentioned as just outside the top 10 despite being the top statistical QB (sans dual threat) in the MVFC. And that guy offering up a very tepid, he "has a chance to be a good QB next year" .. or something similar. Or maybe Herder already knew well how good of a pure QB Theo Day was already.

My ISUr QB Zach Annexstad had a very sporadic year last year, but also had very little support, other than at TE .. no real run game or healthy RBs, no established WRs, and a patchwork OL. We did have 2 good TEs (48 catches, 430 yds) .. but theyre both gone, Taula being a UDFA. Yet Annexstad had some very good halves and a couple good games. There were several games where he was on fire the 1st half, and Spack would shut down the pass game if it was close game. For our UNI game, he actually statistically outplayed Theo Day that day. If Annexstad support is improved as much we think/hope this year, plus another year in a new OC/system, he could make some noise this fall.

Tribe4SF
May 9th, 2023, 05:38 PM
A different look at returning QBs.

FCS Football: Highest Graded Returning Quarterbacks In 2023 (thebluebloodscfb.com) (https://www.thebluebloodscfb.com/fcs-football-highest-graded-returning-quarterbacks-in-2023/)

Redbird 4th & short
May 11th, 2023, 06:22 AM
A different look at returning QBs.

FCS Football: Highest Graded Returning Quarterbacks In 2023 (thebluebloodscfb.com) (https://www.thebluebloodscfb.com/fcs-football-highest-graded-returning-quarterbacks-in-2023/)

Good find and very interesting data and analytsics. It is purely statistical but objective at least. Quick review of the various metrics is impressive. Though saw nothing to indicate it is adjusting for strength of schedule ... I didn't sign up, so could only see so much. But it seems pretty comperehensive other than possibly not adjusting for SOS.

In any case, it takes a lot into account .. not just obvious passing stats, but also evaluates running stats, and the largely ignored, "how much and how well" they dealt with pocket pressure, including timing in the pocket, which is impressive if they have stats to assess things like coverage sacks or OL breakdown .. not sure it could know if QB was holding onto ball too long, or not sensing pressure early enough. Buut still a lot of good stats considered and being scored into an index. And UNI's Theo Day was #1, HC's Sluka #2, EKU's McKinney #3 tied w/ Idaho's McCoy and NCC's Richard. Then W&Ms Wilson at #6, followed by SDSU's Gronowski at #7.

Definntely thorough and objective.

Passing Reports

Passing Grades
Grades and base passing stats

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Passing Depth
The ability to successfully throw the deep ball is one that not all quarterbacks possess. This report shows only passing attempts targeted at the selected distances.

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Passing Pressure
Dealing with pressure is a huge part of playing quarterback in the NFL. This report reflects performance on plays with the selected pressure level.

QB (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/passing-pressure?position=QB) ALL (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/passing-pressure?position=QB,NQB)

Passing Concept
See how quarterbacks perform on Play Action and Screen passes and compare it to the times they do not use that pass concept.

QB (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/passing-concept?position=QB) ALL (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/passing-concept?position=QB,NQB)

Time In Pocket
The Time In The Pocket report lets you find out which quarterbacks are holding onto the ball the most and how it impacts performance.

QB (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/time-in-pocket?position=QB) ALL (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/time-in-pocket?position=QB,NQB)

Allowed Pressure
Pressures are a stat a QB can own. This report considers plays where the offense allowed pressure.

QB (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/passing-allowed-pressure?position=QB) ALL (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/passing-allowed-pressure?position=QB,NQB)

nodak651
May 11th, 2023, 03:22 PM
Good find and very interesting data and analytsics. It is purely statistical but objective at least. Quick review of the various metrics is impressive. Though saw nothing to indicate it is adjusting for strength of schedule ... I didn't sign up, so could only see so much. But it seems pretty comperehensive other than possibly not adjusting for SOS.

In any case, it takes a lot into account .. not just obvious passing stats, but also evaluates running stats, and the largely ignored, "how much and how well" they dealt with pocket pressure, including timing in the pocket, which is impressive if they have stats to assess things like coverage sacks or OL breakdown .. not sure it could know if QB was holding onto ball too long, or not sensing pressure early enough. Buut still a lot of good stats considered and being scored into an index. And UNI's Theo Day was #1, HC's Sluka #2, EKU's McKinney #3 tied w/ Idaho's McCoy and NCC's Richard. Then W&Ms Wilson at #6, followed by SDSU's Gronowski at #7.

Definntely thorough and objective.

Passing Reports

Passing Grades
Grades and base passing stats

QB (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/passing?position=QB) ALL (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/passing?position=QB,NQB)

Passing Depth
The ability to successfully throw the deep ball is one that not all quarterbacks possess. This report shows only passing attempts targeted at the selected distances.

QB (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/passing-depth?position=QB) ALL (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/passing-depth?position=QB,NQB)

Passing Pressure
Dealing with pressure is a huge part of playing quarterback in the NFL. This report reflects performance on plays with the selected pressure level.

QB (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/passing-pressure?position=QB) ALL (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/passing-pressure?position=QB,NQB)

Passing Concept
See how quarterbacks perform on Play Action and Screen passes and compare it to the times they do not use that pass concept.

QB (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/passing-concept?position=QB) ALL (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/passing-concept?position=QB,NQB)

Time In Pocket
The Time In The Pocket report lets you find out which quarterbacks are holding onto the ball the most and how it impacts performance.

QB (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/time-in-pocket?position=QB) ALL (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/time-in-pocket?position=QB,NQB)

Allowed Pressure
Pressures are a stat a QB can own. This report considers plays where the offense allowed pressure.

QB (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/passing-allowed-pressure?position=QB) ALL (https://premium.pff.com/ncaa/positions/2022/REGPO/passing-allowed-pressure?position=QB,NQB)



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Redbird 4th & short
May 11th, 2023, 04:58 PM
That website is amazing. They have a one week free trial. Some really cool info, especially for the off season.

might have to try the 1 week free trial just to see what all it can do.