The Sports Network Poll 11-19-07

[The Moody1]

1. Northern Iowa Panthers (97) 11-0 2,650 1
2. Montana Grizzlies (10) 11-0 2,494 3
3. McNeese State Cowboys (5) 11-0 2,482 4
4. Southern Illinois Salukis 10-1 2,329 5
5. Appalachian State Mountaineers 9-2 2,200 6
6. Richmond Spiders 9-2 2,067 7
7. Massachusetts Minutemen 9-2 1,992 8
8. North Dakota State Bison (1) 10-1 1,880 2
9. Eastern Kentucky Colonels 9-2 1,653 12
10. Delaware State Hornets 10-1 1,611 10
11. Wofford Terriers 8-3 1,590 13
12. James Madison Dukes 8-3 1,449 14
13. Delaware Blue Hens 8-3 1,272 9
14. Eastern Washington Eagles 8-3 1,229 14
15. Youngstown State Penguins 7-4 930 17
16. Grambling State Tigers 8-2 841 19
17. New Hampshire Wildcats 7-4 816 20
18. Eastern Illinois Panthers 8-3 747 21
19. Georgia Southern Eagles 7-4 698 16
20. Yale Bulldogs 9-1 630 11
21. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 7-4 488 NR
22. Harvard Crimson 8-2 423 NR
23. Elon Phoenix 7-4 414 24
24. Cal Poly Mustangs 7-4 331 25
25. Fordham Rams 8-3 260 18
Others receiving votes: Villanova 238, Norfolk State 186, The Citadel 132, Dayton 100, Hofstra 84, Liberty 81, Albany 74, Western Illinois 61, Alabama A&M 38, South Carolina State 36, Sam Houston State 33, Prairie View 27, Furman 26, San Diego 14, Hampton 12, Southern 9, Holy Cross 6, Nicholls State 5, Colgate 4, Lafayette 1.
As of November 19, 2007, at 02:33 PM ET

[WrenFGun]

Villanova should, IMO, be ranked over Fordham.

[WMTribe90]

Villanova should, IMO, be ranked over Fordham.

I'd put Villanova at 21 right in front of Harvard. DSU is a bit high at 10, I think the 13-15 range is more like it. Otherwise its a decent final poll.

[RAMS83]

Fordham wrapped up the AQ two weeks ago and had a bye week. Bad loss but not much to get up for so to speak. They knew a win this week wouldnt have got them a home game. Anyway Fordham is 5-0 on the road and played their best when they had too. They Beat Holy Cross-Colgate- Lehigh - Lafayette - URI (which beat UMass) - Columbia - Marist and Georgetown. Top 25 or not Umass is going to have their hands full. Promise.

[Cleets]

Jeez... what..?

Should be:
Harvard 25
Yale (26 - 40) you choose

How Harvard is below Yale is a mystery
Besides completely obliterating Yale in The Yale Bowl...
Harvard was two plays away from an undefeated season and went all year without allowing 100 yrds on the ground..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

I'm not delirious and think Harvard is better than APP St or Richmond but I know they're better than Yale

xmadx

[stevdock]

Losing by 5 points on the road to your rival is worth dropping 6 spots? That's a pretty big drop IMO. I think that AGS was more correct with dropping us to 5 or 6 instead of all the way to 8. The final poll though, I am sure we will be back in the top 5.

[citdog]

DIDN'T WE JUST BEAT ELON? DON'T WE HAVE THE SAME RECORD? tHE cITADEL HAS GOTTEN NO RESPECT THIS SEASON. WE E=WILL HAVE TO TAKE IT OUT ON THE REST OF THE FCS NEXT SEASON!

[citdog]

Fordham wrapped up the AQ two weeks ago and had a bye week. Bad loss but not much to get up for so to speak. They knew a win this week wouldnt have got them a home game. Anyway Fordham is 5-0 on the road and played their best when they had too. They Beat Holy Cross-Colgate- Lehigh - Lafayette - URI (which beat UMass) - Columbia - Marist and Georgetown. Top 25 or not Umass is going to have their hands full. Promise.


THIS SAME POST SOUNDS AS DUMB ON THIS THREAD AS IT DID ON THE OTHER ONE.

[JDC325]

So GSU beats #5, #11, #21 and #28 and is in the toughest conference and is left out and UNH beats #10 and #30 and is in? OK xnonono2x

[Kabooom]

Losing by 5 points on the road to your rival is worth dropping 6 spots? That's a pretty big drop IMO. I think that AGS was more correct with dropping us to 5 or 6 instead of all the way to 8. The final poll though, I am sure we will be back in the top 5.

That is a pretty BIG drop!....Hmmmm.....Probably just Division II bias...xlolx

[RAMS83]

THIS SAME POST SOUNDS AS DUMB ON THIS THREAD AS IT DID ON THE OTHER ONE.

Hey Citdog,

stop crying like a baby. your team is home for the holidays. just like they should be. lol

[WrenFGun]

So GSU beats #5, #11, #21 and #28 and is in the toughest conference and is left out and UNH beats #10 and #30 and is in? OK xnonono2x

Oy,

If you'd listen to CSN waves, the chairman of the committee blatantly stated that those without 7 DI wins were stricken from the board because none of those teams had overwhelming resumes to get in. PERIOD.

[SuperEagle]

after looking at this poll I am a little miffed. Going into the selection show I did not think my Eagles deserved to be in the playoffs. However, after reviewing New Hampshire's schedule, we have a valid case to be in over them.
For instance,
GSU ended the year 3-1 against teams that finished the year ranked. Not bad at all. Our other losses were to an FBS team, a team that was terrible in the FCS in overtime and #37 Furman who ended the year strong.
New Hampshire was awful against teams that finished ranked losing 3 out of 4. Ranked teams beat them by 17,7 and 20 points. 2 not even being close. The only ranked team that beat GSU won in OT by 3.
GSU lost to unranked FCS teams by 7 in OT and by 2. New Hampshire lost to an unranked team by 18.
GSU did lose to an FBS opponent by 8 while New Hampshire beat one by 13 pts. Kudos to them.
Neither team finished strong with GSU losing their final 2 while NH lost 2 of their last 3.
GSU finished 107 in the final sagarin ratings while NH was 110. What's funny too is that our schedule (including have a DII) was ranked 18 spots harder that NH schedule.
I think a STRONG argument could have been made for my Eagles getting in over NH. Now, if we could just get a SOCON representative on the committee we may have a chance in the future.

[ElonPride]

Oy,

If you'd listen to CSN waves, the chairman of the committee blatantly stated that those without 7 DI wins were stricken from the board because none of those teams had overwhelming resumes to get in. PERIOD.


If you think UNH's resume is better than GSU's.....well....I'm beating a dead horse.

[FCS Preview]

If you think UNH's resume is better than GSU's.....well....I'm beating a dead horse.

In the eyes of the NCAA:
6 FCS wins + 1 FBS win > 6 FCS wins + 1 D-II win.

[gsugt1]

In the eyes of the NCAA:
6 FCS wins + 1 FBS win > 6 FCS wins + 1 D-II win.

This was posted at TSC.


So GSU beats #5, #11, #21 and #28 and is in the toughest conference and is left out and UNH beats #10 and #30 and is in ?

[SuperEagle]

In the eyes of the NCAA:
6 FCS wins + 1 FBS win > 6 FCS wins + 1 D-II win.
**
so what about Norfolk State then? They had a better record than both GSU and NH. Oh, was their schedule not strong enough? Well, GSU had a tougher schedule than NH so the committee can't use schedule strength as a reason can they?

[JDC325]

Oy,

If you'd listen to CSN waves, the chairman of the committee blatantly stated that those without 7 DI wins were stricken from the board because none of those teams had overwhelming resumes to get in. PERIOD.

Yeah a win against all those ranked teams is not overwhelming....xeyebrowx The chairman from UMASS right?.. and a win against Iona and Dartmouth a.500 conference record and ONE quality win does get you in.....oh brother! That is arbitrary at best I wonder what next years criteria will be to get in the most CAA teams? xnonono2x

Oh and IONA and Dartmouth are DIV I in name ONLY!! Anyone with half a brain cell knows that!

[JDC325]

In the eyes of the NCAA:
6 FCS wins + 1 FBS win > 6 FCS wins + 1 D-II win.


The nCAA needs to apply some common sense. What a joke. I guess Quantity over QUALITY wins out!!

[gophoenix]

DIDN'T WE JUST BEAT ELON? DON'T WE HAVE THE SAME RECORD? tHE cITADEL HAS GOTTEN NO RESPECT THIS SEASON. WE E=WILL HAVE TO TAKE IT OUT ON THE REST OF THE FCS NEXT SEASON!

No,
The SoCon has no respect. The Citadel, Elon, GSU, Wofford and App should be ranked. All won against multiple top 25 teams. All with winning conference record in the top conference.

But, we have to make way for the 8 CAA members, don't you know.

[ERASU2113]

Yea it was pretty messed up how 2 teams from the top conference get in while have to sit. GSU definately should be in over UNH...but as said earlier, it's just beating a dead horse now.

[RationalGriz]

GSU fans. It basically came down to the fact that the Eagles did not have 7 division 1 wins. They had a great season, and I would say have a deserving resume, as did The Citadel and Elon, but they were in the same boat. If any of these 3 had the 7th D-1 Win, they would have been in over UNH

[Grizaholic17]

The poll looks pretty much on the ball to me. Maybe nova up a little.

[GaSouthern]

SoCon fans will be happy next year when Appy, Wofford, GSU, Elon, Citadel and Furman all get easy wins against Samford to help our playoff cause / record.

[Cleets]

What's weird to me is I kinda thought GSU could win it all this year...
I'm no SoCon sympathizer that's for sure...

But when you look at the final 16 don't you kinda need to be able to say, after examining each one:
"Yeah... they could win out and take home the trophy"

There are a few teams up there where... I read there name and think about it and say:
"Nope... No chance"

but with GSU... they could have won it all this year (and that's coming from me..!!!) xoopsx

[santosballnewhampshire]

So GSU beats #5, #11, #21 and #28 and is in the toughest conference and is left out and UNH beats #10 and #30 and is in? OK xnonono2x

that sucksxlolx

[RationalGriz]

that sucksxlolx



Glad you have added so much to this thread.

[eaglewraith]

that sucksxlolx

Why don't you go ride your boy's sack a little more?

[JDC325]

that sucksxlolx

....and obviously someone at UNH swallows! Iona, Dartmouth and 4-4 conf....give me a break!!xnonono2x

[Houndawg]

THIS SAME POST SOUNDS AS DUMB ON THIS THREAD AS IT DID ON THE OTHER ONE.

Hey Citdog,

stop crying like a baby. your team is home for the holidays. just like they should be. lol

You're the one that should quit crying. You want a home game? Bid, like everyone else.

[FargoBison]

NDSU should not have gotten a 1st place vote but I also don't think NDSU should have fallen that far, SDSU is a good team and tough to beat at home. I also don't understand how anyone in their right mind could rank Fordham over the likes of Villanova and The Citadel.

[Houndawg]

GSU fans. It basically came down to the fact that the Eagles did not have 7 division 1 wins. They had a great season, and I would say have a deserving resume, as did The Citadel and Elon, but they were in the same boat. If any of these 3 had the 7th D-1 Win, they would have been in over UNH

Not to mention YSU, who lost to UNI (by 1), SIU (by 7), Ohio State, and Illinois State. YSU would pimp-slap UNH.

[WildCat In The Hat]

So GSU beats #5, #11, #21 and #28 and is in the toughest conference and is left out and UNH beats #10 and #30 and is in? OK xnonono2x


Beat Colorado State and there's no need to sit at home and whine. I don't care if they are FBS-they have 2 wins. By the way you forgot to mention in your whine, that UNH beat the FBS team (Marshall) they played.
You can't expect to make the playoffs when you lose to Chattanooga (2-9) and one of your wins is at home against West Georgia.....West Georgia?? Are you kidding me?


xpeacex

[WildCat In The Hat]

Not to mention YSU, who lost to UNI (by 1), SIU (by 7), Ohio State, and Illinois State. YSU would pimp-slap UNH.


Wow Houndog, they are very impressive losses.



xpeacex