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pete4256
November 17th, 2007, 05:45 PM
What did all the Payton finalists do today? Foster finished with 27 carries for 195 yards and three touchdowns. Through the air, he went 11-17 for 107 yards. He also caught two passes for 17 yards.
He'll the regular season with the following numbers:
Rushing:
261 Attempts 1844 Yards 24 Touchdowns 7.1 YPC
Passing:
170 Attempts 109 Comp 1203 Yards 6 TDs 4 Ints
I don't have his receiving or return yards
UNHWildCats
November 17th, 2007, 05:58 PM
Santos 25-32 355 yards and 4 TD
For the season Santos is 230-315 73% for 2,721 yards and 22 TD in 10 games. He missed the second half of a game with an injury and sat out the second half of a couple games.
If the Wildcats dont make the playoffs Santos will finish his career with the highest completion percent breaking Dave Dickenson's record. Santos sits at 68.5%, Dickenson's record was 67.3.
Santos also broke the completions record previously held at 1039, Santos now has 1096.
If UNH makes the playoffs, Santos has a shot at most touchdowns (passing and rushing and receiving combined) the record is 159, Santos has 152.
He's 79 passing attempts short of the FCS record of 1680.
These are on top of FCS records he has set in previous seasons.
pete4256
November 17th, 2007, 06:01 PM
Santos 25-32 355 yards and 4 TD
For the season Santos is 230-315 73% for 2,721 yards and 22 TD in 10 games. He missed the second half of a game with an injury and sat out the second half of a couple games.
If the Wildcats dont make the playoffs Santos will finish his career with the highest completion percent breaking Dave Dickenson's record. Santos sits at 68.5%, Dickenson's record was 67.3.
Santos also broke the completions record previously held at 1039, Santos now has 1096.
If UNH makes the playoffs, Santos has a shot at most touchdowns (passing and rushing and receiving combined) the record is 159, Santos has 152.
He's 79 passing attempts short of the FCS record of 1680.
These are on top of FCS records he has set in previous seasons.
Notice I didn't post Foster's career stats. Santos's career stats are irrelevant. Were career stats a factor, Adrian Peterson would have won three Paytons.
UNHWildCats
November 17th, 2007, 06:12 PM
Notice I didn't post Foster's career stats. Santos's career stats are irrelevant. Were career stats a factor, Adrian Peterson would have won three Paytons.
The career numbers I put were relevant to 2007 as rthey set new FCS records, I also mentioned a couple that he is within striking distance of if UNH hyas a playoff game, these could be relevent to his case as in this season his strong play has led him to breaking NCAA FCS records.
pete4256
November 17th, 2007, 06:15 PM
Anybody else? What did Hightower do today? Other Payton finalists?
ElonPride
November 17th, 2007, 06:28 PM
Anybody else? What did Hightower do today? Other Payton finalists?
Hudgins 99 receiving yards 2 TDs.
pete4256
November 17th, 2007, 06:42 PM
Hudgins 99 receiving yards 2 TDs.
How many catches? 107 coming in? He's had a great year.
Houndawg
November 17th, 2007, 07:02 PM
Nick Hill 23/27 285 yds. 70 yds rushing. Some NFL training camp is going to find him hard to get rid of.
ElonPride
November 17th, 2007, 07:05 PM
How many catches? 107 coming in? He's had a great year.
9 catches
on the year:
1474 receiving yards
18 Tds
117 receptions
134 receivng yards per game
AND HE'S ONLY A SOPHOMORE!xsmiley_wix
hc12
November 17th, 2007, 09:43 PM
dom randolph 29of42 for 441 3 tds 32 yds rushing
UNHWildCats
November 17th, 2007, 09:45 PM
9 catches
on the year:
1474 receiving yards
18 Tds
117 receptions
134 receivng yards per game
AND HE'S ONLY A SOPHOMORE!xsmiley_wix
How many TDs did he have last year?
UMass922
November 17th, 2007, 09:57 PM
Mike McLeod of Yale had 20 carries for only 50 yards and no touchdowns.
Omar Cuff of Delaware had 17 carries for 75 yards and no touchdowns.
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I was leaning toward Cuff going into today as my favorite for the Payton, but I really think I'd have to go with Jayson Foster now. Those are very impressive numbers in a losing effort against an FBS team. Even though GSU's not going to make the playoffs, I'm starting to believe that Foster is the best player in FCS right now--at the very least, he's the one who means the most to his team.
When it comes down to it, the Payton (like the Heisman) ought to go to the guy who had the best season, even if his team didn't finish near the top. Ultimately it's an individual award, not a team award. And I think Foster has had the best individual season in FCS this year. So he'd get my vote.
slostang
November 17th, 2007, 10:08 PM
Ramses Barden got pulled early in a 55-7 blow out over Iona. He had 2 receptions for 48 yards and a TD.
He finishes the year with:
57 receptions
1467 yards
18 touchdowns
25.7 yards a reception.
He is only a junior.
straightshooter
November 17th, 2007, 10:13 PM
Foster doesn't play defense for GSU. You can't penalize him for an inconsistent defense. The one thing that Foster has done is put GSU in position at the end of every game for the team to get a win. Two of the GSU loses came on missed FG (Elon and Furman). Foster put GSU in position to win with a great run the Furman game when he converted a fourth and seven with a couple of minutes to go.
How many RB or QB have nine rushing TDs over 50 yards this season? The 1,844 yards rushing for the season completely blows the all time Division 1 QB rushing record out of the water.
alexale23
November 17th, 2007, 11:02 PM
I know this years Payton award is not decided yet. But who will be the favorites next year. I think JMU QB Rodney Landers will be on the watch list.
Who else is coming back and will be on it?
X-Factor
November 17th, 2007, 11:16 PM
I know this years Payton award is not decided yet. But who will be the favorites next year. I think JMU QB Rodney Landers will be on the watch list.
Who else is coming back and will be on it?
While I don't think Tyler Roehl of NDSU finished the year strong enough to win it this year, he has to be considered one of the front runners for it next year.
1400+ yards
21TD
~7 ypc
(in 10 games)
DC 'gater
November 17th, 2007, 11:16 PM
Colgate's Jordan Scott
39 attempts
206 yards
3 TDs
1873 yards and 20 TDs for the season
pete4256
November 17th, 2007, 11:41 PM
Colgate's Jordan Scott
39 attempts
206 yards
3 TDs
1873 yards and 20 TDs for the season
Why oh why did he have to run for 206 yards? I still don't think he's a finalist. He averages less than 5 ypc, doesn't he?
appfan2008
November 17th, 2007, 11:44 PM
103 yards today for kevin richardson... he also set the schools all time rushing record today...
GO APPS!
USDFAN_55
November 17th, 2007, 11:46 PM
Josh Johnson's numbers:
2976 yards passing for 43 TDs and 1 INT
Passer Efficiency of 197.2
674 rushing yards with 2 TDs
Only 1 INT is very impressive with that many TDsxnodx
ASUG8
November 17th, 2007, 11:47 PM
103 yards today for kevin richardson... he also set the schools all time rushing record today...
GO APPS!
+ 3 games consecutive 100+ yd games
+ most ASU all purpose yards.
Even so, I still like Foster.
slostang
November 18th, 2007, 12:02 AM
He is not a Payton contender, but Cal Poly QB Jonathan Dally had an outstanding year. Here are his numbers this year.
Passing:
104 of 192 for 2,238
29 touchdowns
5 interceptions
Running:
762 yards
12 touchdowns
Total yards:
3,000
Total touchdowns:
41
ElonPride
November 18th, 2007, 12:34 AM
He is not a Payton contender, but Cal Poly QB Jonathan Dally had an outstanding year. Here are his numbers this year.
Passing:
104 of 192 for 2,238
29 touchdowns
5 interceptions
Running:
762 yards
12 touchdowns
Total yards:
3,000
Total touchdowns:
41
I wonder why Elon's Scott Riddle didn't make the final list.....here's his stats:
346-508
3817 passing yards
31 passing TDs
9 rushing Tds
68.1 Completion %
347 passing yards per game
His SoCon record 9 straight games of 300+ yards passing was snapped today (he had 296 yards passing today).
Was he left off the list because he is a true freshman?
ASUG8
November 18th, 2007, 12:53 AM
I wonder why Elon's Scott Riddle didn't make the final list.....here's his stats:
346-508
3817 passing yards
31 passing TDs
9 rushing Tds
68.1 Completion %
347 passing yards per game
His SoCon record 9 straight games of 300+ yards passing was snapped today (he had 296 yards passing today).
Was he left off the list because he is a true freshman?
I don't know, but he sucks for being that good that early - I dread him in coming years..
URMite
November 18th, 2007, 12:53 AM
Hightower is still hurt from the Delaware game. So he played less than half our downs. 15 carries for 60 yds.
We had to start on next years payton with Josh Vaughn 28 carries 132 yds 2 TD sxsmiley_wix
URMite
November 18th, 2007, 12:56 AM
I wonder why Elon's Scott Riddle didn't make the final list.....here's his stats:
346-508
3817 passing yards
31 passing TDs
9 rushing Tds
68.1 Completion %
347 passing yards per game
His SoCon record 9 straight games of 300+ yards passing was snapped today (he had 296 yards passing today).
Was he left off the list because he is a true freshman?
Damn I hate to see you guys replace Bucknell on our schedule next year. xnonono2x
colgate13
November 18th, 2007, 07:28 AM
Why oh why did he have to run for 206 yards? I still don't think he's a finalist. He averages less than 5 ypc, doesn't he?
Scott's final numbers:
11 games 409 attempts total yards 1875 avg 4.6 td's 20 avg/game 170.5
I don't know what about that should disqualify him as a finalist. He's a workhorse, plain and simple and he's been a key to our success. He will be back next year and should be a candidate once again. If he stays healthy he has a really good shot at surpassing the first Walter Payton winner Kenny Gamble and becoming Colgate's all time leader in rushing yards and rushing TDs (he currently has 4,473 yards, the record is 5,220).
I think if Colgate is a playoff team next year Scott has a good shot to be one of the 3 finalists.
But all of that is a long way away...
ASUPATCH
November 18th, 2007, 08:14 AM
I know this years Payton award is not decided yet. But who will be the favorites next year. I think JMU QB Rodney Landers will be on the watch list.
Who else is coming back and will be on it?
I would have to think Armanti Edwards would have a good shot at it next year.
WildCat In The Hat
November 18th, 2007, 08:38 AM
Josh Johnson's numbers:
2976 yards passing for 43 TDs and 1 INT
Passer Efficiency of 197.2
674 rushing yards with 2 TDs
Only 1 INT is very impressive with that many TDsxnodx
Huge Santos fan here-but Josh Johnson has to be the clear favorite for the award. 43 TD's and 1 INT-thats unbelievable.
appfan2008
November 18th, 2007, 09:35 AM
I wonder why Elon's Scott Riddle didn't make the final list.....here's his stats:
346-508
3817 passing yards
31 passing TDs
9 rushing Tds
68.1 Completion %
347 passing yards per game
His SoCon record 9 straight games of 300+ yards passing was snapped today (he had 296 yards passing today).
Was he left off the list because he is a true freshman?
the only thing i can think is politics and the fact he plays at elon... other than that he deserves it!
blueballs
November 18th, 2007, 09:55 AM
Huge Santos fan here-but Josh Johnson has to be the clear favorite for the award. 43 TD's and 1 INT-thats unbelievable.
Disagree... you've got to consider the level of competition he did it against. I can't see a mid major player getting the award over full scholly playoff auto conference players if any of those players are deserving.
Not to say he is not great because that is a heckuva stat, but he wouldn't have done anywhere close to that in the SoCon or CAA.
gophoenix
November 18th, 2007, 10:08 AM
the only thing i can think is politics and the fact he plays at elon... other than that he deserves it!
Yeah, that kept Hudgins off the list huh xrolleyesx
Jerbearasu
November 18th, 2007, 10:20 AM
Yeah, that kept Hudgins off the list huh xrolleyesx
It's hard for receivers to get votes for the Payton. I just think back to 04 when Davon Folkes had something like 2000 yards receiving and I think 65% of App's total offense and finished 3rd. I think he broke the FCS record for yards in a season and he was trumped by 2 QBs...
ElonPride
November 18th, 2007, 10:20 AM
Damn I hate to see you guys replace Bucknell on our schedule next year. xnonono2x
I can't wait to play you guys. I live in Richmond, so I won't have to drive far to see the game!
USDFAN_55
November 18th, 2007, 11:37 AM
Disagree... you've got to consider the level of competition he did it against. I can't see a mid major player getting the award over full scholly playoff auto conference players if any of those players are deserving.
Not to say he is not great because that is a heckuva stat, but he wouldn't have done anywhere close to that in the SoCon or CAA.
That's just speculation and opinion. No one knows how he would do in the other FCS conferences.
eaglesrthe1
November 18th, 2007, 12:03 PM
That's just speculation and opinion. No one knows how he would do in the other FCS conferences.
Perhaps, but that is what will cost him votes, and the Payton. Not saying it's fair (even though I think that it is to some extent), but that's the way it is.
See Bruce Eugene.
eaglesrthe1
November 18th, 2007, 12:07 PM
A 2000 yd rusher would be a lock for the Payton. A RB with 1850 yds rushing would be in the mix... AP was a 3 time finalist with 1795, 1694, and 1807 rushing yards. Foster has more yards than that.
Strictly as a RB, Foster is 2nd in yds, 4th in yds/carry, and 2nd in tds, while only being 13th in carries, which just further demonstrates that he is on a different level. Tack on 1200 yds passing with 2/3 completion rate, and I don't see how anyone can't say he isn't the favorite going in. The one statistic that is the most amazing about Foster is that while he is 2nd in rushing TDS, 60% of them came from more than 30yds out.
If I had to guess at the three finalists, it would be Flacco, Cuff, and Foster. Johnson may be a dark horse, but if Santos is picked it would be based on his career, much like AP was rewarded a finalist spot for his career. I know that I'm a homer, but Foster is above the rest.
UDChE89
November 18th, 2007, 12:14 PM
A 2000 yd rusher would be a lock for the Payton. A RB with 1850 yds rushing would be in the mix... AP was a 3 time finalist with 1795, 1694, and 1807 rushing yards. Foster has more yards than that.
Strictly as a RB, Foster is 2nd in yds, 4th in yds/carry, and 2nd in tds, while only being 13th in carries, which just further demonstrates that he is on a different level. Tack on 1200 yds passing with 2/3 completion rate, and I don't see how anyone can't say he isn't the favorite going in. The one statistic that is the most amazing about Foster is that while he is 2nd in rushing TDS, 60% of them came from more than 30yds out.
If I had to guess at the three finalists, it would be Flacco, Cuff, and Foster. Johnson may be a dark horse, but if Santos is picked it would be based on his career, much like AP was rewarded a finalist spot for his career. I know that I'm a homer, but Foster is above the rest.
Nice thought... we at UD would love it to have two Payton candidates, but Flacco's not on the list.
eaglesrthe1
November 18th, 2007, 12:16 PM
Eh, my oversight.
skinny_uncle
November 18th, 2007, 12:26 PM
The main problem with this award is how hard it is to compare players who play different positions.
pete4256
November 18th, 2007, 01:14 PM
A 2000 yd rusher would be a lock for the Payton. A RB with 1850 yds rushing would be in the mix... AP was a 3 time finalist with 1795, 1694, and 1807 rushing yards. Foster has more yards than that.
Strictly as a RB, Foster is 2nd in yds, 4th in yds/carry, and 2nd in tds, while only being 13th in carries, which just further demonstrates that he is on a different level. Tack on 1200 yds passing with 2/3 completion rate, and I don't see how anyone can't say he isn't the favorite going in. The one statistic that is the most amazing about Foster is that while he is 2nd in rushing TDS, 60% of them came from more than 30yds out.
If I had to guess at the three finalists, it would be Flacco, Cuff, and Foster. Johnson may be a dark horse, but if Santos is picked it would be based on his career, much like AP was rewarded a finalist spot for his career. I know that I'm a homer, but Foster is above the rest.
I'm pretty sure AP was a four-time finalist. He was "one of the three" every year at GSU.
Eyes of Old Main
November 18th, 2007, 01:28 PM
Foster should win, hands down. There are arguments that can be made for many people to be finalists, but as far as I see, Foster is the only choice to win it if you are basing it solely off this season (as is the intention).
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