2023 NFL Thread

[bonarae]

Welcome to a new season of the AGS NFL thread.

[bonarae]

NFLPA survey reveals eight sometimes surprisingly bad sets of complaints from the players.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nflpa-survey-ranking-the-eight-biggest-nfl-player-complaints-with-the-jaguars-rat-infestation-at-the-top/

[bonarae]

Another significant jersey-related change... #0 is now a legal number.

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-owners-approve-proposal-to-allow-players-to-wear-no-0

[ngineer]

Eagles will be using as an 'alternative' jersey their old "Kelly Greens"!! Lurie actually wanted to change a couple years ago, but they couldn't get a good matching 'Kelly green' for the helmet. I guess that has been ironed out.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile... Jags will be forced to play at a neutral site...

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jaguars-may-be-forced-out-of-home-stadium-for-two-years-as-tiaa-bank-field-undergoes-renovations/

[Bisonoline]

Look like the NFL is whoring itself out again. Playoff games will be on Peacock.

[bonarae]

Fair-catch rule on KO returns? Now, that's another conversation starter.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-approves-one-year-trial-run-for-new-fair-catch-rule-that-could-have-dramatic-impact-on-kickoff-returns/

[OhioHen]

Fair-catch rule on KO returns? Now, that's another conversation starter.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-approves-one-year-trial-run-for-new-fair-catch-rule-that-could-have-dramatic-impact-on-kickoff-returns/
Just another way to eliminate a potentially exciting play from the game under the guise of caring about "player safety." Why not just eliminate kickoffs and have them start on the 25 to begin each half and following every score. No high-speed collisions in that scenario.

[bonarae]

Just another way to eliminate a potentially exciting play from the game under the guise of caring about "player safety." Why not just eliminate kickoffs and have them start on the 25 to begin each half and following every score. No high-speed collisions in that scenario.

Who kills the "joy" of the game of football the most? The NCAA, Ivy League or the NFL? xchinscratchx

[Gil Dobie]

Who kills the "joy" of the game of football the most? The NCAA, Ivy League or the NFL? xchinscratchx

The NFL Commish.

[bonarae]

The Commanders finally have new owners... but will another court injunction stop it still?

[bonarae]

Oh, XFL-style kickoffs in the works for the league this season? xconfusedx

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-considering-xfl-kickoffs-as-a-model-for-future-rule-changes-per-report/

[FUBeAR]

Oh, XFL-style kickoffs in the works for the league this season? xconfusedx

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-considering-xfl-kickoffs-as-a-model-for-future-rule-changes-per-report/
FUBeAR has long been a proponent of removing all Kicking - Kickoffs, FG’s, (kicked) XP’s, and Punts from Football. This could, in most cases, eliminate 3 to 6 roster spots benefitting programs / leagues seeking to save money OR allow 3-6 more Position Players benefitting programs / leagues seeking to add quality depth, which also enhances Player safety, as removing these types of Plays from Football also, obviously does. Another benefit is speeding up the game.

Eliminating all except Punts is really easy. Removing Punts is harder and would require some well-thought-out rules changes and testing/tweaking, but it can be done.

Seems as if this article portends another step in the right (AKA, the FUBeAR) direction.

[Gil Dobie]

NFL = 12 minutes of action per game.

[FUBeAR]

NFL = 12 minutes of action per game.Just on Kickoffs alone or on all Kicking plays?

[OhioHen]

NFL = 12 minutes of action per game.
Meaning it is roughly double the action per game in MLB.

[Gil Dobie]

Just on Kickoffs alone or on all Kicking plays?

Entire game, the rest is time between plays.

[Gil Dobie]

Meaning it is roughly double the action per game in MLB.

Actually 18 minutes in a MLB baseball game. NBA is 48 minutes and NHL 60 minutes of action.

[OhioHen]

Actually 18 minutes in a MLB baseball game. NBA is 48 minutes and NHL 60 minutes of action.
I've timed a baseball game. Unless you count the time from start of windup to foul ball lands in the stands or excessively long home run trot ends, there's no way you get to 18 minutes in a typical game.

[Gil Dobie]

I've timed a baseball game. Unless you count the time from start of windup to foul ball lands in the stands or excessively long home run trot ends, there's no way you get to 18 minutes in a typical game.

Going by CBS sports.

Doesn't take away the fact there is only 12 minutes of action in an NFL game.

[POD Knows]

Actually 18 minutes in a MLB baseball game. NBA is 48 minutes and NHL 60 minutes of action.And soccer is like 90 minutes of action, most of it unwatchable.

[SFA 93]

Xavier Gipson I think makes the cut for the Jets as the #6WR and PR.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O39fpPavulc

Caught 7 passes for 97 yards in the Jets last game.

Special player with NFL caliber speed.







(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O39fpPavulc)

[SFA 93]

10 players from UAC teams that made 53 man rosters

Here’s the breakdown on what schools they came from.

SFA 4
UCA 2
SOUTHERN UTAH 2
EKU 1
TARLETON 1

[POD Knows]

Fire ****ing Tomlin now, JFC, oh Blutto, the Steelers haven't finished under 500 for a bunch of years under Tomlin. **** that, when did getting to 500 be the benchmark for this once proud franchise, ****ing aye, fire this ****ing loser. He has done nothing for this team since he won a Super Bowl with some other coaches guys. Worst coach for the best franchise in the NFL. I simply do not get the love for this LOSER.

[Gil Dobie]

Bears are under new ownership, Love era has started.

[JacksFan40]

Either the Cowboys defense is ridiculously good this season, or the Giants O-Line is complete dogwater. No QB could've done well facing that kind of pressure all game last night.

[POD Knows]

SFA guy a big hero in the Jets game.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Sounds like Rodgers season (career?) came to end tonight due to a torn Achilles.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Jets fear QB Aaron Rodgers suffered serious Achilles injury - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38381823/qb-aaron-rodgers-injures-ankle-opening-drive-new-york-jets-debut)


So, Rodgers "strains or partially" tears his calf or Achilles tendon during training camp and then steps awkwardly getting sacked and now could be done. Well he is almost 40 and injuries do not heal as fast when you get older. He's probably done for good or won't be back until next year if the Achilles is torn.

[SFA 93]

Break out the Xavier Gipson jerseys!

[MR. CHICKEN]

Sounds like Rodgers season (career?) came to end tonight due to a torn Achilles.

....IT'S WHY...THEY CALL IT....."HARD KNOCKS"...........BRAWK!

[POD Knows]

I thought Tomlin Inc sucked at coaching, Raiders McDaniel says hold my beer.

[POD Knows]

FIRE ****ING TOMLIN NOW. No real student of Steeler football can tolerate this. I don’t give a **** about his stupid .500 year by year deal. **** him. He is the poster child for average.

[POD Knows]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-should-be-embarrassed-fans-and-robert-saleh-erupt-over-snf-officiating/ar-AA1hxOwo?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1cd7a5660fea4c82a57c6350e702172f&ei=9#image=1

Not a Jets fan but they got hosed in the second half of the last quarter by the zebras, need to keep the Chiefs winning, Taylor Swift and all. It is freaking all-star wrestling at this point in time.

[OhioHen]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-should-be-embarrassed-fans-and-robert-saleh-erupt-over-snf-officiating/ar-AA1hxOwo?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1cd7a5660fea4c82a57c6350e702172f&ei=9#image=1

Not a Jets fan but they got hosed in the second half of the last quarter by the zebras, need to keep the Chiefs winning, Taylor Swift and all. It is freaking all-star wrestling at this point in time.
Hell, even freakin' useless Cris Collinsworth was on top of the idiocy of that call.

[POD Knows]

Hell, even freakin' useless Cris Collinsworth was on top of the idiocy of that call.
The non call on that hold on 3rd and 22 was worse. There were some strange calls against the Chiefs early on but when the chips were down in Q4, the stripes stepped up big time for KC.

[bonarae]

The non call on that hold on 3rd and 22 was worse. There were some strange calls against the Chiefs early on but when the chips were down in Q4, the stripes stepped up big time for KC.

Meanwhile... is NFL officiating worse than, say, SEC officiating?

[POD Knows]

Meanwhile... is NFL officiating worse than, say, SEC officiating?
Football is almost impossible to officiate but I hate ticky tack calls in key situations. No idea on the SEC folks.

[bonarae]

Time to update this thread.

Lions fell to the Pack and the "curse" of their Thanksgiving game participation continues... xrulesx

[Gil Dobie]

Time to update this thread.

Lions fell to the Pack and the "curse" of their Thanksgiving game participation continues... xrulesx

Packers reach my predicted 5 wins already, cool.

[Gil Dobie]

Packets move into playoff contention with win over Swifties.

[POD Knows]

Packets move into playoff contention with win over Swifties.
Maybe the worst 2 minutes of officiating of the year. Terrible roughing call on GB, terrible call on the out of bounds clock stoppage (should have been forward progress with the clock running at 19 seconds) and then a really bad missed PI against Green Bay

Had 3 MVFC guys show up big last night, Tucker/SDSU, Watson/NDSU and Cochrane/USD all played well. Looks like Watson pulled another hamstring last night towards the end of the game. That sucks. He has a history of that kind of injury

[bonarae]

3-0 final score in an NFL game? Worst game ever played in the regular season? xeyebrowx


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[bonarae]

Big Ben has feared the worst for the current Steelers... xsmhx

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ben-roethlisberger-challenges-steelers-offensive-leaders-to-step-up-fears-teams-rich-tradition-is-done/

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Raiders 63-21 Chargers (Dec 14, 2023) Box Score - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401547593)


Former Bison QB Easton Stick actually had a pretty good game in his first start in his passing stats. Too bad the Chargers had 5 turnovers (Easton with 3 of them)...:(

[POD Knows]

Raiders 63-21 Chargers (Dec 14, 2023) Box Score - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401547593)


Former Bison QB Easton Stick actually had a pretty good game in his first start in his passing stats. Too bad the Chargers had 5 turnovers (Easton with 3 of them)...:(
When did Stick turn into a fumble machine. I think he has had 4 fumbles in two games. That interception last night was a weird play, the guy came in unblocked apparently on some kind of bubble screen pass. Sitck had a bunch of TD passes in garbage time and looked OK outside of the turnovers but that Chargers team is putrid. The D was horrible and that game and effort last night by them was as bad as I have ever seen in the NFL.

[bonarae]

Vic Fangio, Dolphins DC, has an opinion about Lamar Jackson: only one player like him in the past 50 years?! Michael Vick was the player he compared, but he was a bust IMHO.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/dolphins-dc-vic-fangio-on-defending-lamar-jackson-only-one-player-has-been-like-him-in-the-last-50-years/

[ngineer]

Eagles defense sucks big time. Horrible co@ching. Worse than mt typing. Offense has skills, but, again play calling atrocious. Failing to use their run game consistently. SMFH!

[Gil Dobie]

Green Bay moves into drivers seat for final playoff spot. Win and in, lose and pray for help.

[OhioHen]

Green Bay moves into drivers seat for final playoff spot. Win and in, lose and pray for help.
If Seattle's run defense could stop your average pee-wee league rushing offense, all the NFC spots would already be locked up. Now the Hawks need help from Da Bears (like the help from the Lions last season).

[ngineer]

I am waiting for the Eagles to trip over Jimmy Hoffa's body in the Meadowlands this weekend....

[bonarae]

The NFL HC scene will be a WHOLE LOT younger after this season ends. Pats and 'Hawks say goodbye to their long-standing HCs. But do you think Harbaugh will be welcome again in the pros?

[Laker]

Buffalo's home game with Pittsburgh has been postponed until 4:30 ET on Monday.

[MR. CHICKEN]

.....PEACOCK.....DIDN'T GET MAH DUCATS.....LAST NIGHT........xsmhx......AWK!

[Gil Dobie]

#beatDallas

[JacksFan40]

This Cowboys defense is soft as **** and has been all year against good teams. There’s a reason Dan Quinn’s team choked a 25 point lead in the SB.
Fire everyone and go get Belichick.

[JSUSoutherner]

This Cowboys defense is soft as **** and has been all year against good teams. There’s a reason Dan Quinn’s team choked a 25 point lead in the SB.
Fire everyone and go get Belichick.
Love it.

[Gil Dobie]

#beatsanfran

[ngineer]

If the Iggles haven't given their coordinators their walking papers already, something is wrong. In my ire Monday night I was screaming for Sirianni's head too, but after some thought, it may have been Roseman and Lurie who forced making Patricia the DC, which really screwed the pooch. With some of the players' comments and the fact the guy has won more than any Iggles coach in their first three years, I would give him next season to "right the ship" and, if he can't , "walk the plank."

[bonarae]

Meanwhile... has Vegas gotten the right hire in elevating Antonio Pierce to full time HC?

[Bisonator]

Guess the new lions are the same as the old lions........

Was hoping for a Lions/Ravens super bowl guess it's going to be a SB 54 replay.....

[bonarae]

Guess the new lions are the same as the old lions........

Akin to the Bills of the 1990s? xdontknowx

[caribbeanhen]

When does baseball season start ?

[Bisonoline]

Guess the new lions are the same as the old lions........

Was hoping for a Lions/Ravens super bowl guess it's going to be a SB 54 replay.....

Not even close.

[bonarae]

Will the NFL adopt a kickoff rule from the former XFL?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-might-steal-this-rule-from-the-xfl-which-could-lead-to-two-major-changes-on-kickoffs/

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Also, a list of 25 ring-less players of all time. (Without Super Bowl rings and for some of them, playoff wins)

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-top-25-nfl-players-who-never-won-a-super-bowl-jj-watt-joins-list-of-legends-who-didnt-win-a-ring/

[Bisonator]

Will the NFL adopt a kickoff rule from the former XFL?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-might-steal-this-rule-from-the-xfl-which-could-lead-to-two-major-changes-on-kickoffs/

- - - Updated - - -

Also, a list of 25 ring-less players of all time. (Without Super Bowl rings and for some of them, playoff wins)

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-top-25-nfl-players-who-never-won-a-super-bowl-jj-watt-joins-list-of-legends-who-didnt-win-a-ring/
Lol 6 of them were Vikings......could probably name more than 25 Vikings to that list.....

[bonarae]

Goodell has shared his sentiments on several NFL related topics, including kickoffs, playing surfaces...

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-super-bowl-roger-goodell-discusses-key-nfl-topics-including-officiating-future-of-kickoffs-gambling/

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

NFL expands the reach of its International Games to Spain and Brazil.

Canton Class of 2024: Dwight Freeney, Randy Gradishar, Devin Hester, Andre Johnson, Steve McMichael, Julius Peppers and Patrick Willis.

[ngineer]

Meanwhile...

NFL expands the reach of its International Games to Spain and Brazil.

Canton Class of 2024: Dwight Freeney, Randy Gradishar, Devin Hester, Andre Johnson, Steve McMichael, Julius Peppers and Patrick Willis.

Surprised Eric Allen hasn't been selected as yet. I thought him one of the top DBs for years.