UNI & Montana in the 2nd Round

[Gil Dobie]

They might not play each other in the 2nd round, but is there any reason they won't make it to the quarter-finals of the playoffs?

[skinny_uncle]

They could lose in the first round? I know it is hard to believe, but these things can happen.

[Houndawg]

They might not play each other in the 2nd round, but is there any reason they won't make it to the quarter-finals of the playoffs?

Not for UNI, but if SIU gets sent to Montana I see upset potential based on the way SIU handled playing at the UNI dome this year.

[Purple For Life]

UNI will go all the way. Montana won't. 'Nuff said, end of story.

[appfan2008]

i would predict that they will both be in the second round but any thing can happen! ags...

[Griz0383]

Please, send us a gateway team!

[Houndawg]

Please, send us a gateway team!

You better hope they send you one and don't send you TO one. It's your only chance:D

[SeattleGriz]

Not for UNI, but if SIU gets sent to Montana I see upset potential based on the way SIU handled playing at the UNI dome this year.

I love these sort of statements.

SIU had a very tough time last year with Montana, and we returned 19 starters from that team.

Enjoy the video, and notice the 3rd qtr stats were SIU only had 34 yds rushing, when they averaged 245.

http://streamingmedia.montanagrizzlies.com/umgriz/2006_2007/Football/Multimedia/vs_Southern_/um-siu-2006.wmv

[FCSFAN]

Please, send us a gateway team!Like Western Illinois?

[igo4uni]

Like Western Illinois?

:D :D :D xcoolx xcoolx xcoolx xcoolx xwhistlex xwhistlex xwhistlex xwhistlex xwhistlex xwhistlex xwhistlex xwhistlex

[89Hen]

They might not play each other in the 2nd round, but is there any reason they won't make it to the quarter-finals of the playoffs?


They could lose in the first round? I know it is hard to believe, but these things can happen.
xnodx xnodx xnodx

FWIW, Montana is 5-5 in the first round in their last 10 trips. UNI is 7-3.

[Tailbone]

xnodx xnodx xnodx

FWIW, Montana is 5-5 in the first round in their last 10 trips. UNI is 7-3.

They are also 2-3 in NC games when getting past the first round.
UNI is .............0-fer

[JayJ79]

If both Montana and UNI win out, they'd likely be on opposite sides of the bracket. UNI should be able to wrap up the 1 seed by going 11-0, and it sounds like most folk figure Montana on getting a 2 or 3 seed. That would mean no possible matchup until the championship game.

Though if the committee decides to factor in Montanas GPI or SOS, then they might give them a 4 seed, which would mean a semifinal matchup.

Or Montana could lose to IdSU or MtSU to knock them to the 4 seed or unseed them. And of course, UNI could stumble (and a loss to either InSU or SUU would definitely hurt their seeding). And of course, either team could lose in the early rounds of the playoffs, as was mentioned by others.

[Houndawg]

I love these sort of statements.

SIU had a very tough time last year with Montana, and we returned 19 starters from that team.

Enjoy the video, and notice the 3rd qtr stats were SIU only had 34 yds rushing, when they averaged 245.

http://streamingmedia.montanagrizzlies.com/umgriz/2006_2007/Football/Multimedia/vs_Southern_/um-siu-2006.wmv

xrolleyesx Ancient history.

[Purple For Life]

Please, send us to a gateway team!
xwhistlex

[SeattleGriz]

As I have said before, how about we forget the Gateway, Big Sky, Southland slugfest for the first round this year and get someone from the Meac, Patriot or OVC like the SoCon and CAA get every year.

[Houndawg]

As I have said before, how about we forget the Gateway, Big Sky, Southland slugfest for the first round this year and get someone from the Meac, Patriot or OVC like the SoCon and CAA get every year.

I think we can all agree about that.xthumbsupx Although we have been fortunate enough to draw OVC teams early the last couple of years.

[FCS Go!]

As I have said before, how about we forget the Gateway, Big Sky, Southland slugfest for the first round this year and get someone from the Meac, Patriot or OVC like the SoCon and CAA get every year.

I'm betting on the at-large from OVC. I could go without a Gateway team until the semi-final round.

[89Hen]

As I have said before, how about we forget the Gateway, Big Sky, Southland slugfest for the first round this year and get someone from the Meac, Patriot or OVC like the SoCon and CAA get every year.

xnonox xnonono2x

I'll take 8-3 Southland teams all day long.

[SeattleGriz]

xnonox xnonono2x

I'll take 8-3 Southland teams all day long.


Okay, you can take McNeese, and we'll take Fordham.

Granted McNeese isn't 8-3, but they are the only team to make it from the Southland this year.

I'll pull some strings and make it happen.

[89Hen]

Okay, you can take McNeese, and we'll take Fordham.

Granted McNeese isn't 8-3, but they are the only team to make it from the Southland this year.

I'll pull some strings and make it happen.
I'm guessing you missed my post last week on Montana's first round opponents. You haven't faced a team in the first round with less than three losses in quite a while. xnodx Quityerbitchin.

[SeattleGriz]

I'm guessing you missed my post last week on Montana's first round opponents. You haven't faced a team in the first round with less than three losses in quite a while. xnodx Quityerbitchin.

Sorry, my bad. Hard to keep up with your 12.7 posts per minute average.:D

[Hansel]

I'm guessing you missed my post last week on Montana's first round opponents. You haven't faced a team in the first round with less than three losses in quite a while. xnodx Quityerbitchin.

Last 10 first round opponents for Montana (5-5 record)

2006 McNeese (7-4 SLC) @ Montana W 31-6
2005 Cal Poly (8-3 GWFC) @ Montana L 35-21
2004 NW St (8-3 SLC) @ Montana W 55-7
2003 Western Illinois (8-3 GFC) @ Montana L 43-40
2002 NW St (9-3 SLC) @ Montana W 45-14
2001 NW St (8-3 SLC) @ Montana W 28-19
2000 E Illinois (8-3 OVC) @ Montana W 45-13
1999 Youngstown (9-2 GFC) @ Montana L 30-27
1998 Montana @ WIU (9-2 GFC) L 52-9
1997 Montana @ McNeese (10-1 SLC) L 19-14

[DuckDuckGriz]

Last 10 first round opponents for Montana (5-5 record)

2006 McNeese (7-4 SLC) @ Montana W 31-6
2005 Cal Poly (8-3 GWFC) @ Montana L 35-21
2004 NW St (8-3 SLC) @ Montana W 55-7
2003 Western Illinois (8-3 GFC) @ Montana L 43-40
2002 NW St (9-3 SLC) @ Montana W 45-14
2001 NW St (8-3 SLC) @ Montana W 28-19
2000 E Illinois (8-3 OVC) @ Montana W 45-13
1999 Youngstown (9-2 GFC) @ Montana L 30-27
1998 Montana @ WIU (9-2 GFC) L 52-9
1997 Montana @ McNeese (10-1 SLC) L 19-14

Ten is a convenient number. Go 4 more and the record is 9-5.

[Hansel]

Ten is a convenient number. Go 4 more and the record is 9-5.

actually 8-6- with all the additional 4 (Mont 3-1) games being played in Missoula

[Grizalltheway]

Last 10 first round opponents for Montana (5-5 record)

2006 McNeese (7-4 SLC) @ Montana W 31-6
2005 Cal Poly (8-3 GWFC) @ Montana L 35-21
2004 NW St (8-3 SLC) @ Montana W 55-7
2003 Western Illinois (8-3 GFC) @ Montana L 43-40
2002 NW St (9-3 SLC) @ Montana W 45-14
2001 NW St (8-3 SLC) @ Montana W 28-19
2000 E Illinois (8-3 OVC) @ Montana W 45-13
1999 Youngstown (9-2 GFC) @ Montana L 30-27
1998 Montana @ WIU (9-2 GFC) L 52-9
1997 Montana @ McNeese (10-1 SLC) L 19-14

I'll take a 9-2 OVC team over an 8-3 Cal Poly any day. xcoffeex

[DuckDuckGriz]

actually 8-6- with all the additional 4 (Mont 3-1) games being played in Missoula

Correct. Erasing that 49-48 game from memory worked up till that point.

[Grizaholic17]

I'm guessing you missed my post last week on Montana's first round opponents. You haven't faced a team in the first round with less than three losses in quite a while. xnodx Quityerbitchin.

huh, i wonder why? Maybe it's because we kick butt during regular season to earn a high seed, so that we play a low seeded team.

[Chi Panther]

They are also 2-3 in NC games when getting past the first round.
UNI is .............0-fer

I think UNI would have handled Montana in 1996.....but too bad we both had to play Marshall.....

[DuckDuckGriz]

I think UNI would have handled Montana in 1996.....but too bad we both had to play Marshall.....

I highly doubt that. The `96 Griz were unstoppable up till Huntington. This includes 70-7 slaughter of Troy State in the playoffs and a 35-14 road pounding at Oregon State.

[Chi Panther]

I still think that 96 was the best UNI team. 3 NFL players 2 drafted in the third round and we did play Marshall closer than you. It was the only college game I-A or I-AA that Moss did not have a receiving TD......:)

[Griz0383]

Griz would have whoooppeeddd ur ass in 1996

[Mountain Panther]

Griz would have whoooppeeddd ur ass in 1996

That's pure conjecture. The classy and educated Griz posters on this board would have at least tried to back up such a ridiculous statement with facts.

I see you squeaked by another sub-.500 team today. Good job.

[DuckDuckGriz]

That's pure conjecture. The classy and educated Griz posters on this board would have at least tried to back up such a ridiculous statement with facts.

I see you squeaked by another sub-.500 team today. Good job.

2001: UM 32 - last place ISU 28
UM 38 - UNI 0

BSC squeakers are nothing new.;)

[Mountain Panther]

2001: UM 32 - last place ISU 28
UM 38 - UNI 0

BSC squeakers are nothing new.;)

You see? A classy and educated Griz fan did some research!

But it still does not prove that Montana would have beat us in 1996. ;)

ANYWAY, back to the topic of the thread, I hope we play Montana in the playoffs in 2007!

[Chi Panther]

Semifinals (12/14):
Marshall 31, UNI 14
Championship (12/21):
Marshall 49, Montana 29


We hit the uprights on a first half field goal, and a Dedric Ward TD was called back on holding in first half....coulda should BS.....

Hard to give up 49 points....

[uofmman1122]

Semifinals (12/14):
Marshall 31, UNI 14
Championship (12/21):
Marshall 49, Montana 29


We hit the uprights on a first half field goal, and a Dedric Ward TD was called back on holding in first half....coulda should BS.....

Hard to give up 49 points....Obviously harder to score 29 xcoffeex

[Gil Dobie]

xnodx xnodx xnodx

FWIW, Montana is 5-5 in the first round in their last 10 trips. UNI is 7-3.

How many of those Griz or Panther teams were undefeated during the season, going into the first round playoff game?

[RE/MAXGriz]

I think even if the Griz lose to Montana St this weekend they'll probably be positioned to play at the #4 or #3 seed in the 2nd round rather than in UNI. They would be 10-1 and not 8-3 or 7-4 like these handful of CAA and Southern Conf teams that will get at-large bids.

Someone earlier asked if either of these teams could not make it to the quarter finals, and I think that just about every single year there's upsets and usually some of the best teams in the regular season get bumped out earlier than expected. For example, in 2004 SIU was supposed to be the most incredible (then) 1-AA team ever and EWU beat them in the 1st round - then on the same day New Hampshire beats #4 seed GSU, which opened the door for Montana to keep hosting games all thru the playoffs.

Really, anything can happen, because it usually does. I think last year with the semi finals having the top 4 seeds was probably a lot more rare than having semis with at least half the teams playing in it not being seeded.

[SeattleGriz]

I still think that 96 was the best UNI team. 3 NFL players 2 drafted in the third round and we did play Marshall closer than you. It was the only college game I-A or I-AA that Moss did not have a receiving TD......:)


If I remeber correctly, didn't you guys double him all day to limit his yardage. The Griz played single coverage and well, you see what he did to us.

[igo4uni]

If I remeber correctly, didn't you guys double him all day to limit his yardage. The Griz played single coverage and well, you see what he did to us.

I don't remember what I had for lunch yesterday...........How can I remember what coverage we used on Moss over 10 years ago???:D :D :D :D :D

[KAUMASS]

Love to see both UNI and Montana draw an at large CAA or SoCon team for the first round.

[FCS Go!]

I don't remember what I had for lunch yesterday...........How can I remember what coverage we used on Moss over 10 years ago???:D :D :D :D :D

Obviously not a real fan...;)

[McTailGator]

They might not play each other in the 2nd round, but is there any reason they won't make it to the quarter-finals of the playoffs?



Montana and UNI will not meet until the finals. If Montana wins out they are a 2 or a 3 seed. Can't meet until the end.

[Chi Panther]

If I remeber correctly, didn't you guys double him all day to limit his yardage. The Griz played single coverage and well, you see what he did to us.

Tyree Talton who was drafted by the Lions.....also picked off the Hawkeyes QB 3x's in one game.....

Moss wasn't the problem for us....it was stopping Doug Chapman.....

[JohnStOnge]

Okay, you can take McNeese, and we'll take Fordham.

Granted McNeese isn't 8-3, but they are the only team to make it from the Southland this year.

I'll pull some strings and make it happen.

McNeese does have a 4-2 record against the old A-10 in playoff action and the two losses were by 2 and 4 points.

[WyomingGrizFan]

If I remember correctly, didn't you guys double him all day to limit his yardage. The Griz played single coverage and well, you see what he did to us.

Yeah, that is one bone of contention that I have about that game; single coverage by a #3 Billy Ivey out of West Covina, Calif., a one-year letter winner, supposedly, and a senior that year. Whom I had never even had heard about before that game.
Had a pass interference call on Marshall's first offensive play, a pass by Eric Kresser towards Moss, and seven plays later the first of four TDs by Moss.

[SeattleGriz]

Yeah, that is one bone of contention that I have about that game; single coverage by a #3 Billy Ivey out of West Covina, Calif., a one-year letter winner, supposedly, and a senior that year. Whom I had never even had heard about before that game.
Had a pass interference call on Marshall's first offensive play, a pass by Eric Kresser towards Moss, and seven plays later the first of four TDs by Moss.


I remember that play. Kresser dropped back and unloaded a bomb. Then as the camera pans downfield, you see Randy Moss standing there waiting for the ball...one thousand one, one thousdand two, then Ivey finally catches up to Moss right after the ball got there.

I knew it was going to be a long day.

[CopperCat]

UNI will go all the way. Montana won't. 'Nuff said, end of story.

Yup.

[DuckDuckGriz]

Yup.

If my team had made it past the first round only once in almost a quarter of a century I guess "Yup" would be all I had to say too...


:D

[Tod]

I still think that 96 was the best UNI team. 3 NFL players 2 drafted in the third round and we did play Marshall closer than you. It was the only college game I-A or I-AA that Moss did not have a receiving TD......:)

Obviously we'll never know, but I've seen speculation from several folks that are regular and respected AGS posters that think the '96 Griz team was the best Griz team ever.

xtwocentsx

[Peems]

Obviously we'll never know, but I've seen speculation from several folks that are regular and respected AGS posters that think the '96 Griz team was the best Griz team ever.

xtwocentsx

Hard to say that when the best Griz player wasn't even on that team.

[Grizaholic17]

Hard to say that when the best Griz player wasn't even on that team.

How can you define THE best griz player. Many greats have walked onto that field, and although Dickenson seems to stand out, his greatness is so great because he kick started a great tradition. What about Humphrey and Bierman and Petek and Edwards and all of the others. So many greats, let's not just define one.

[mvemjsunpx]

Hard to say that when the best Griz player wasn't even on that team.


Yeah, but that player didn't have a defense with 10 senior starters like what the Griz had in 1996.

[Tod]

Semifinals (12/14):
Marshall 31, UNI 14
Championship (12/21):
Marshall 49, Montana 29


We hit the uprights on a first half field goal, and a Dedric Ward TD was called back on holding in first half....coulda should BS.....

Hard to give up 49 points....

Really? You're going to stake your claim to greatness on a 17 point loss vs. a 20 point loss to a common opponent?

xrolleyesx xrolleyesx xrolleyesx

[th0m]

I love these sort of statements.

SIU had a very tough time last year with Montana, and we returned 19 starters from that team.

Enjoy the video, and notice the 3rd qtr stats were SIU only had 34 yds rushing, when they averaged 245.

http://streamingmedia.montanagrizzlies.com/umgriz/2006_2007/Football/Multimedia/vs_Southern_/um-siu-2006.wmv

They averaged 245 rushing yards in the 3rd quarter?