Playoff Contenders' Strength of Schedule Rankings

[JMU Duke Dog]

From Massey and only including those teams in contention for the playoffs...

1. Appalachian State
2. Elon
3. Northern Iowa
4. Wofford
5. Massachusetts
6. James Madison
7. New Hampshire
8. Richmond
9. Georgia Southern
10. Delaware
11. Hofstra
12. Southern Illinois
13. Eastern Kentucky
14. Eastern Washington
15. McNeese State
16. Colgate
17. Holy Cross
18. Cal Poly
19. Albany
20. Jacksonville State
21. Eastern Illinois
22. Alabama A&M
23. Montana
24. Fordham
25. Delaware State
26. Norfolk State
27. Dayton

[GreatAppSt]

23. Montanaxeyebrowx ;) :D xlolx But, but they've got no losses.

[GannonFan]

SOS is such a tough measure when teams only play 11 games and maybe only 1 of those games are against anyone of note outside the conference. Just not enough of a sampling size for anyone to make SOS that reliable of a figure.

[GreatAppSt]

SOS is such a tough measure when teams only play 11 games and maybe only 1 of those games are against anyone of note outside the conference. Just not enough of a sampling size for anyone to make SOS that reliable of a figure.


Yeah but it sure makes some fun fodder to use when poking a stick at someone.:D

PS aren't you up late? Go to bed GF.

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Where's San Diego, Austin Peay, etc.?

[JMUSaxMRD]

Where's San Diego, Austin Peay, etc.?

I believe it said only those teams that are being considered for the playoffs... hehe

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SOS is such a tough measure when teams only play 11 games and maybe only 1 of those games are against anyone of note outside the conference. Just not enough of a sampling size for anyone to make SOS that reliable of a figure.637 games have been played by FCS squads so far this year. Of 122 teams most play at least three OOC. Statistics cite that as more than enough to make fair comparisons at this point in the season.

[UMass922]

How it rates UMass's schedule ahead of UNH's is beyond me. BC must count for a zillion points.

[GannonFan]

637 games have been played by FCS squads so far this year. Of 122 teams most play at least three OOC. Statistics cite that as more than enough to make fair comparisons at this point in the season.

It could if the OOC games were spread out enough and showed enough of a cross-section. However, there just aren't enough games between conferences, especially the bigger conferences (i.e. the ones that will put most of the playoff teams in) to draw a good enough conclusion. Statistics could show something useful if there were enough cross-conference games - unfortunately, there just aren't.

[AZGrizFan]

OK.....we GET it....Montana's SOS is weak.....


Move along. Get over it. xrolleyesx xrolleyesx xrolleyesx xrolleyesx

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It could if the OOC games were spread out enough and showed enough of a cross-section. However, there just aren't enough games between conferences, especially the bigger conferences (i.e. the ones that will put most of the playoff teams in) to draw a good enough conclusion. Statistics could show something useful if there were enough cross-conference games - unfortunately, there just aren't.I wonder why stats people like Massey, Sagarin, etc. say there are more than enough? More would be even better they say but there are plenty now to interconnect all teams by this point in the season.

[USDFAN_55]

Where's San Diego, Austin Peay, etc.?

There are a few on your list that shouldn't be considered. Funny how San Diego has one bad game (during the week of the San Diego fire storm, which limited practice to a basketball gym), and everyone immediately says they are overrated.

[AZGrizFan]

23. Montanaxeyebrowx ;) :D xlolx But, but they've got no losses.

I'd be curious to see what would happen to Montana's SOS if they substituted a Utah State or San Diego State (or something like that) for Fort Lewis.

[umassfan]

I love how UMass's SOS is so high and prob the two hardest games besides BC are left. Guess we have played someone this year.

[URMite]

Where's San Diego, Austin Peay, etc.?

Does etc = Morehead St? adding those 3 = all <4 loss >6DI win teams.

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All Massey SOS:

1 W Carolina
2 Southern Utah
3 Rhode Island
4 Appalachian St
5 Furman
6 Northeastern
7 Chattanooga
8 William & Mary
9 Elon
10 Villanova
11 Northern Iowa
12 Wofford
13 Massachusetts
14 Illinois St
15 Maine
16 James Madison
17 W Illinois
18 Towson
19 New Hampshire
20 SF Austin
21 S Dakota St
22 Citadel
23 Richmond
24 Ga Southern
25 Delaware
26 Hofstra
27 CS Sacramento
28 Indiana St
29 N Colorado
30 Missouri St
31 Youngstown St
32 Sam Houston St
33 Portland St
34 Northwestern LA
35 N Dakota St
36 Texas St
37 UC Davis
38 S Carolina St
39 Ark Pine Bluff
40 Weber St
41 Nicholls St
42 S Illinois
43 Cent Arkansas
44 E Kentucky
45 N Arizona
46 Gardner Webb
47 Idaho St
48 MS Valley St
49 TX Southern
50 SE Louisiana
51 E Washington
52 Jackson St
53 Dartmouth
54 Tennessee St
55 Lehigh
56 McNeese St
57 Colgate
58 Alabama St
59 Holy Cross
60 Coastal Car
61 TN Martin
62 Grambling
63 Cal Poly SLO
64 Montana St
65 Stony Brook
66 Albany NY
67 Brown
68 Jacksonville St
69 Liberty
70 Florida A&M
71 Alcorn St
72 E Illinois
73 Murray St
74 Alabama A&M
75 Samford
76 Montana
77 Southern Univ
78 Charleston So
79 Fordham
80 NC A&T
81 SE Missouri St
82 Delaware St
83 Cornell
84 Hampton
85 Georgetown
86 VMI
87 Columbia
88 W Salem St
89 Norfolk St
90 Harvard
91 Penn
92 Bucknell
93 Prairie View
94 Howard
95 Princeton
96 Morgan St
97 Tennessee Tech
98 Austin Peay
99 Yale
100 Monmouth NJ
101 Bethune-Cookman
102 Jacksonville
103 Robert Morris
104 Drake
105 St Francis PA
106 Dayton
107 Lafayette
108 Presbyterian
109 Davidson
110 San Diego
111 Savannah St
112 Central Conn
113 NC Central
114 Butler
115 Morehead St
116 Marist
117 Wagner
118 La Salle
119 Sacred Ht
120 Valparaiso
121 Iona
122 Duquesne

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There are a few on your list that shouldn't be considered. Funny how San Diego has one bad game (during the week of the San Diego fire storm, which limited practice to a basketball gym), and everyone immediately says they are overrated.Here it is with a few extra:

1. Appalachian State
2. Elon
3. Northern Iowa
4. Wofford
5. Massachusetts
6. James Madison
7. New Hampshire
8. Richmond
9. Georgia Southern
10. Delaware
11. Hofstra
12. Southern Illinois
13. Eastern Kentucky
14. Eastern Washington
15. McNeese State
16. Colgate
17. Holy Cross
18. Cal Poly
19. Albany
20. Jacksonville State
21. Eastern Illinois
22. Alabama A&M
23. Montana
24. Fordham
25. Delaware State
26. Norfolk State
27. Austin Peay
28. Dayton
29. San Diego
30. Morehead State

Which are the few on the list that shouldn't be considered?

[Purple Knight]

Montana at 76, whoa. xsmiley_wix :) :D xlolx

[appfan2008]

How it rates UMass's schedule ahead of UNH's is beyond me. BC must count for a zillion points.

same with us and the michigan game

[appfan2008]

All Massey SOS:

1 W Carolina
2 Southern Utah
3 Rhode Island
4 Appalachian St
5 Furman
6 Northeastern
7 Chattanooga
8 William & Mary
9 Elon
10 Villanova
11 Northern Iowa
12 Wofford
13 Massachusetts
14 Illinois St
15 Maine
16 James Madison
17 W Illinois
18 Towson
19 New Hampshire
20 SF Austin
21 S Dakota St
22 Citadel
23 Richmond
24 Ga Southern
25 Delaware
26 Hofstra
27 CS Sacramento
28 Indiana St
29 N Colorado
30 Missouri St
31 Youngstown St
32 Sam Houston St
33 Portland St
34 Northwestern LA
35 N Dakota St
36 Texas St
37 UC Davis
38 S Carolina St
39 Ark Pine Bluff
40 Weber St
41 Nicholls St
42 S Illinois
43 Cent Arkansas
44 E Kentucky
45 N Arizona
46 Gardner Webb
47 Idaho St
48 MS Valley St
49 TX Southern
50 SE Louisiana
51 E Washington
52 Jackson St
53 Dartmouth
54 Tennessee St
55 Lehigh
56 McNeese St
57 Colgate
58 Alabama St
59 Holy Cross
60 Coastal Car
61 TN Martin
62 Grambling
63 Cal Poly SLO
64 Montana St
65 Stony Brook
66 Albany NY
67 Brown
68 Jacksonville St
69 Liberty
70 Florida A&M
71 Alcorn St
72 E Illinois
73 Murray St
74 Alabama A&M
75 Samford
76 Montana
77 Southern Univ
78 Charleston So
79 Fordham
80 NC A&T
81 SE Missouri St
82 Delaware St
83 Cornell
84 Hampton
85 Georgetown
86 VMI
87 Columbia
88 W Salem St
89 Norfolk St
90 Harvard
91 Penn
92 Bucknell
93 Prairie View
94 Howard
95 Princeton
96 Morgan St
97 Tennessee Tech
98 Austin Peay
99 Yale
100 Monmouth NJ
101 Bethune-Cookman
102 Jacksonville
103 Robert Morris
104 Drake
105 St Francis PA
106 Dayton
107 Lafayette
108 Presbyterian
109 Davidson
110 San Diego
111 Savannah St
112 Central Conn
113 NC Central
114 Butler
115 Morehead St
116 Marist
117 Wagner
118 La Salle
119 Sacred Ht
120 Valparaiso
121 Iona
122 Duquesne

shows what happens when western plays alabama and georgia in the same year!

[ChickenMan]

From Massey and only including those teams in contention for the playoffs...

1. Appalachian State
2. Elon
3. Northern Iowa
4. Wofford
5. Massachusetts
6. James Madison
7. New Hampshire
8. Richmond
9. Georgia Southern
10. Delaware
11. Hofstra
12. Southern Illinois
13. Eastern Kentucky
14. Eastern Washington
15. McNeese State
16. Colgate
17. Holy Cross
18. Cal Poly
19. Albany
20. Jacksonville State
21. Eastern Illinois
22. Alabama A&M
23. Montana
24. Fordham
25. Delaware State
26. Norfolk State
27. Dayton


9 of the Top 10 from the CAA (5) and SoCon (4)

[JohnStOnge]

SOS is such a tough measure when teams only play 11 games and maybe only 1 of those games are against anyone of note outside the conference. Just not enough of a sampling size for anyone to make SOS that reliable of a figure.

Perhaps, but I think something like Massey is the best that can be done. If I'm correct, the Massey system that was taken from doesn't consider margin of victory and that's a disadvantage. An advantage (though i think not a very large one) of Massey's system is that it considers non D-I opponents.

Anyway, power systems like that do take into account every outcome of every game played (or ever D-I game played if it's something like Sagarin). It takes into account a lot more information in a far more comprehensive way than you or I could just by eyeballing scores, common opponets, etc.

[appfan2008]

you can say 10 of the Top 11 from the CAA (6) and SoCon (5)