Ill St @ #1/2 NDSU

[Hansel]

kickoff in 20 minutes

[Mountain Panther]

For some reason I think this game is going to be real close.

[Hansel]

For some reason I think this game is going to be real close.

We'll see, I hope not :)

[ISUMatt]

For some reason I think this game is going to be real close.

I dont think, but I hope so...ISUMatt thinks the Bison will roll 52-7

[Hansel]

NDSU wins toss- defers Ill St to receive

[Peems]

Could some people give some updates? thanks in advance

[Hansel]

Ill St returns to 30

[Hansel]

Drone scramble to NDSU 44

[Hansel]

Ill St to NDSU 29

[Hansel]

Defense starting out shaky again

[Hansel]

Ill St First Down on NDSU 15

[Tealblood]

NDSU 1/2 is that a half or 1 slash 2

[Hansel]

First and Goal Ill St at NDSU 4

[Tealblood]

maybe we could go UNI#1 NDSU #1A

[Hansel]

NDSU 1/2 is that a half or 1 slash 2

1 slash 2 ;)

:)

[Hansel]

TD pass Illinois State

[Tealblood]

good luck NDSU #1A time to go drink a beer with the Mrs.

[Hansel]

7-0 ISU 10:30 to go

[Hansel]

NDSU returns the kickoff to the 41

[Hansel]

Tyler Roehl takes it 40 yards to ISU 18

he carried a man on his back for 13 yards

[Hansel]

TD Pass Bison- Walker to Heckendorf

[Hansel]

3 play 59 yard 1:31 Drive

7-7

[Hansel]

ISU returns to 36

[Hansel]

Ill St to NDSU 44

[Mountain Panther]

IlSt starts with great field position again.

[FCSFAN]

please post scores on the score thread

[Hansel]

fumbled shotgun snap..... NDSU Recovers

[ISUMatt]

7-7 halfway through the 1st

[Hansel]

NDSU pass to ISU 18

[Hansel]

First and Goal NDSU at ISU 2

[Hansel]

QB sneak Walker- NDSU TD

[Hambone]

Looks like this one could get pretty high scoring (and I'm assuming NDSU will do a majority of the scoring).

[Hansel]

xp blocked

NDSU 13-7

5:01 to go in 1 Q

[ISUMatt]

LOL I assume NDSU will do most the scoring as well

[Hansel]

ISU returns to NDSU 32

[Hansel]

3 and out for Ill St... punt upcoming- if they are smart they will punt away from Washingotn

[Hansel]

Ball Bounces out at NDSU 19

[Hansel]

First down NDSU to own 32

[Hansel]

NDSU with first down at ISU 33

[Hansel]

13-7 NDSU at quarter

[Hansel]

Roehl runs through about 5 tackles for a TD

[Hansel]

20-7 NDSU 14:49 to go in half

[ISUMatt]

hmmm 20-7...almost to my 52-7 pick :)

[Hansel]

ISU 3 and out

NDSU ball on own 40

[Hansel]

Paschall run to the ISU 20

[Hansel]

NDSU to ISU 2

[Hansel]

Roehl walks in for a TD

[Hansel]

missed XP

26-7 NDSU 11:29 to go in half

[skinny_uncle]

hmmm 20-7...almost to my 52-7 pick :)
This season has to be driving you nuts, Matt.

[Hansel]

ISU returns KO to own 30

[Hansel]

First Down ISU inside NDSU 30

[Hansel]

29 yd Drone TD pass for ISU

[Hansel]

26-14 NDSU

9:39 to go in half

[Hansel]

NDSU ball on own 19 after KO

[Hansel]

82 yd Roehl TD RUn

[ISUMatt]

Drone looking good today...the Drone we needed the first 6 games and didnt get

[ISUMatt]

82 yd Roehl TD RUn

But yet we have NO run defense

[Hansel]

33-15 NDSU

9:11 to go in half

[skinny_uncle]

Drone looking good today...the Drone we needed the first 6 games and didnt get

He was missing Robinson.

[ISUMatt]

This season has to be driving you nuts, Matt.

It sure does suck Skinny, but as a fan, we just keep showing up/watching and cheer for our team!!

[Hansel]

But yet we have NO run defense

Roehl is a machine- he may get 200 yds in the first half

[skinny_uncle]

It sure does suck Skinny, but as a fan, we just keep showing up/watching and cheer for our team!!
See ya next week.

[Hansel]

ISU to start on own 22

[Hansel]

Tyler Roehl with 10 carries 173 yards and 3 TDs with 8 mins to go in half

[ISUMatt]

See ya next week.

Its not gonna be pretty next week...SIU owes us after the beatdown last year

[Hansel]

ISU with a first down at NDSU 22

[Hansel]

near INT in the endzone 2nd Down coming up

[Hansel]

First and ten ISU at NDSU 11

[Hansel]

3rd and 1 coming up for ISU at NDSU 2

[Hansel]

NDSU stop ISU on 4th and 1

[Hansel]

Time for a Roehl 98 yard TD run

[ISUMatt]

gosh we cant get 1 stinking yard ugh

[Hansel]

NDSU converts on 3rd out to own 15

[ISUMatt]

man o man we may give up 500 1st half yards tonight

[Hansel]

NDSU stopped on third- ISU timeout with 16 secs left

first punt for NDSU upcoming

[Hansel]

bad snap NDSU kicks ball out of endzone for safety

[Hansel]

33-21 NDSU at half

Ill St scored somehow of a blocked/fumbled punt

[ONCEaBISON/ALWAYSaBISON]

33-21 NDSU at half

Ill St scored somehow of a blocked/fumbled punt

It was a penalty on Drago for illegal kick. He recovered a muffed snap and kicked it out of the end zone while the ball was still in play.

[ISUMatt]

Ball was at the 1 and Rafael Rice rushed it in with 6 seconds left 33-21 at half...much better down 12 than I ever imagined it would be

[birdbrain]

Ball was at the 1 and Rafael Rice rushed it in with 6 seconds left 33-21 at half...much better down 12 than I ever imagined it would beIf it wasn't for giving up those big plays it'd be even closer. That Roehl run was sloppy play!

[Hansel]

NDSU to receive at start of second half

[Hansel]

NDSU at own 23

[birdbrain]

UNI beat us with a big run, let's keep this close and score

[Hansel]

If it wasn't for giving up those big plays it'd be even closer. That Roehl run was sloppy play!

Roehl makes a lot of tacklers look "sloppy" ;)

[Hansel]

Roehl rumbles past midfield-

[birdbrain]

Roehl makes a lot of tacklers look "sloppy" ;)I was talking about players being out of position, not bad tackling.

[Hansel]

Walker throws under pressure to ISU 30

[Hansel]

NDSU to 15

[birdbrain]

at least Kye is in place

[Hansel]

TD WALKER to HECKENDORF

[Hansel]

40-21 11:48 to go in Third

[Hansel]

Roehl now has 13 carries for 206 yards

[Hansel]

ISU runs to NDSU 32

not a lot of D out there

[Hansel]

now to the NDSU 20

[birdbrain]

ILS at the NDSU 11

[Hansel]

First and Goal ISU from 10

[Hansel]

TD ISU :(

[birdbrain]

ISU runs to NDSU 32
not a lot of D out thereRice makes teams look they have no D. :p

TD pass to Sallllem

Redbirds behind 28-40

[Hansel]

40-28 9:48 to go in Third

[birdbrain]

I think UNI was tougher

[Hansel]

NDSU return to own 44

[Hansel]

NDSU inside ISU territory

[birdbrain]

Roehl's a good back but what's this with the taunting?????????? xnonox

[Hansel]

4th and 6 coming up for NDSU at ISU 28

[Hansel]

Missed FG

kicking game sucks today

[birdbrain]

ILS stops NDSU, kicker misses FG

[Hansel]

3rd and 10 for ISU- NDSU D needs to make a play

[Hansel]

incomplete-

punt upcoming

[birdbrain]

If only Drone could throw well, receiver was wide open and the ball went way over his head

[Hansel]

NDSU ball on own 30

[birdbrain]

5:08 left in the third quarter ILS behind by 12, 28-40

[Hansel]

Roehl with a first down run

[Hansel]

NDSU completion to ISU 7

[Hansel]

2nd and goal from 4.5

[Hansel]

Roehl goes in for his 4th TD untouched

[Hansel]

47-28 NDSU

3:01 left in third

[Hansel]

Roehl 17 carries 239 yards 4 TDs

[Hansel]

Ill St to start on own 23

[birdbrain]

we have lost each quarter by 6 points so come on and score Redbirds!

[Hansel]

offsetting personal fouls on kickoff- getting a little chippy out there

[Hansel]

3rd and short coming up.....

[Hansel]

STUFFED on the run

punt upcoming

[Hansel]

NDSU ball on own 45

[Hansel]

First down inside ISU territory

43 secs left in third

[Hansel]

End of three

47-28 NDSU

[Hansel]

Paschall with a 38 yard TD run for NDSU

[ISUMatt]

If you dont want the guy taunting you, try stopping him for a change...thats what I say...

[Hansel]

54-28 NDSU

14:51 to play

[birdbrain]

No smack because we always play UNI tough but I think after seeing us against both, UNI has a faster team and their QB is better.

Another big play with ILS defense out of position. That has been the story all season. We piss away games we are playing close with giving up big plays.

Nice job capitalizing on it NDSU. Your announcers are really annoying homers though. :p

[ISUMatt]

369 rushing yards for NDSU...pathetic

[Hansel]

Paschall makes the tackle on the kickoff after his TD run

[Hansel]

INT NDSU

[birdbrain]

Now come the turnovers, a typical ILS game. :(

[Hansel]

First down ISU to own 20

12 mins to go

[Hansel]

Personal Foul on NDSU extends drive

[Hansel]

Lardinois sack for NDSU on third down

[Hansel]

ISU downs punt on NDSU 4

[Hansel]

Roehl with a 15 yard run for a first down

[Hansel]

NDSU converts a 3rd and 1

[Hansel]

NDSU takes a timeout to bring in their backup QB

[Hansel]

NDSU to punt

[Hansel]

Touchback- ISU ball

[Chi Panther]

score update?

[CatFan22]

score update?

Seconded.

[Hansel]

54-28 NDSU

3mins to go

ISU with a 3rd and 10 from midfield

[Hansel]

4th and 2 upcoming

[Hansel]

Incomplete

NDSU ball

[Hansel]

2 mins ago

emptying the bench looking to runout clock

[Chi Panther]

Way to go Bison!!!!xbowx

[Hansel]

NDSU gets a first down

54-28 NDSU- final

[Hansel]

NDSU with 416 yards of rushing

Roehl 20 carries 257 yards 4 TDs

Paschall 10 carries 105 yards 1 TD

[Drblankstare]

No smack because we always play UNI tough but I think after seeing us against both, UNI has a faster team and their QB is better.

Another big play with ILS defense out of position. That has been the story all season. We piss away games we are playing close with giving up big plays.

Nice job capitalizing on it NDSU. Your announcers are really annoying homers though. :p


Show me some who arentxlolx

[Go_Herd]

[QUOTE=birdbrain;721278]No smack because we always play UNI tough but I think after seeing us against both, UNI has a faster team and their QB is better. [QUOTE]

I really have never cared if we are better than UNI because I think it's impossible to tell and it is because we will never play. But I do have to say this: How can UNI have a better QB?

Walker was 15-23 for 233 yards and 2TD. A quarterback really doesn't have to do much when you have 416 yards rushing.

Game Illinois State vs. UNI

UNI's Mr. Sanders stats 16-26 for 166 yards INT, 2 TD

I just want to know why UNI has a better quarterback?

[Go_Herd]

No smack because we always play UNI tough but I think after seeing us against both, UNI has a faster team and their QB is better. :p

I don't think NDSU is better than UNI, and no-one will ever know. But I do have to ask this: How can/does UNI have a better QB?

Illinois State vs. NDSU
Walker was 15-23 for 233 yards and 2TD. He really didn't have to do much when his running backs got 416 yards rushing.

Illinois State vs. UNI
UNI's Mr. Sanders stats 16-26 for 166 yards INT, 2 TD

I just want to know why UNI has a better quarterback?--never seen him so I want to know?

[Chi Panther]

I don't think NDSU is better than UNI, and no-one will ever know. But I do have to ask this: How can/does UNI have a better QB?

Illinois State vs. NDSU
Walker was 15-23 for 233 yards and 2TD. He really didn't have to do much when his running backs got 416 yards rushing.

Game Illinois State vs. UNI
UNI's Mr. Sanders stats 16-26 for 166 yards INT, 2 TD

I just want to know why UNI has a better quarterback, seriously?

This debate will be about as pointless as which team is better.....

But I do believe there was anther thread the other day about what is your team missing....as far as if you could have any other player in I-AA...who would it be.

IF UNI also had your LB Mays......UNI's Front 7 would be Silly good.....xbowx

[Reed Rothchild]

I don't think NDSU is better than UNI, and no-one will ever know. But I do have to ask this: How can/does UNI have a better QB?

Illinois State vs. NDSU
Walker was 15-23 for 233 yards and 2TD. He really didn't have to do much when his running backs got 416 yards rushing.

Illinois State vs. UNI
UNI's Mr. Sanders stats 16-26 for 166 yards INT, 2 TD

I just want to know why UNI has a better quarterback?--never seen him so I want to know?

Sanders sprained his AC joint that game (a wound that still lingers) and still led the team on a game winning drive.

[Go_Herd]

This debate will be about as pointless as which team is better.....

But I do believe there was anther thread the other day about what is your team missing....as far as if you could have any other player in I-AA...who would it be.

IF UNI also had your LB Mays......UNI's Front 7 would be Silly good.....xbowx

I would take Ramses Barden from Cal Poly, be nice to have a big time reciever even though ours are pretty good. His the only big time reciever I've seen, but being stuck in the midwest I'm sure there are some good ones from the East

Didn't know about the injury to Sanders during the ISU game, thats pretty impressive then-a game winning drive

[skinny_uncle]

Sanders sprained his AC joint that game (a wound that still lingers) and still led the team on a game winning drive.
It seems like Sanders is getting pretty beat up this year. Maybe you should let him rest against Indiana State.

[NDSUFREAK]

i'd still take Walker over any QB. Most people dont know or seem to care about how good he really is.

[No_Skill]

i'd still take Walker over any QB. Most people dont know or seem to care about how good he really is.

The man has ice in his veins. xcoolx xcoolx xcoolx xcoolx xcoolx xcoolx xcoolx xcoolx xcoolx xcoolx xcoolx xcoolx xcoolx

[AmsterBison]

That Kye Stewart from Illinois State was something else last night. I was also pretty impressed with how ISU's offensive line played.

And, yeah, for the guy who said the FargoDome's announcer was being an annoying homer, there has been some comment about that in Fargo. NDSU's beat reporter mentioned it and I was puzzled with the announcer giving out the stats too.

[Go Bison]

No smack because we always play UNI tough but I think after seeing us against both, UNI has a faster team and their QB is better.

Another big play with ILS defense out of position. That has been the story all season. We piss away games we are playing close with giving up big plays.

Nice job capitalizing on it NDSU. Your announcers are really annoying homers though. :p

Thanks for the analysis. For the last two year everyone keeps says that NDSU is not fast enough, and NDSU just keeps on winning. I don't know how they do it.

IF NDSU wanted to throw the ball more I think Walker's stats would be huge. However, NDSU has taken the run first, balanced offensive attack which has proven to be quite effective.

[BisonBacker]

Thats the worst part about this transition. NDSU won't have to opportunity to prove it in the playoffs. I'd love to see an NDSU vs. UNI game. I like our chances with Walker at the helm but we will never know. xmadx

[nmatsen]

I don't think NDSU is better than UNI, and no-one will ever know. But I do have to ask this: How can/does UNI have a better QB?

Illinois State vs. NDSU
Walker was 15-23 for 233 yards and 2TD. He really didn't have to do much when his running backs got 416 yards rushing.

Illinois State vs. UNI
UNI's Mr. Sanders stats 16-26 for 166 yards INT, 2 TD

I just want to know why UNI has a better quarterback?--never seen him so I want to know?

vs Western Illinois (with both teams on the road, perhaps a more accurate comparison than comparing one qb on the road outdoors and one qb at home in the dome)

Walker 13-21 (62%, the same % that you claim was inferior vs ILSU)

Sanders 8-8 (100%, it literally cannot get any better than that.)

Eric Sanders is completing 76.6% of his passes this year. He goes on stretches of 15-20 throws at a time without an incompletion. Walker is 71.6. That means for every one hundred passes thrown Sanders completes 5 more than Walker.

Look, I am in no way trying to knock Walker's performance. He is one heck of a quarterback. Just in MY OPINION not as good as Sanders. We will have another opportunity to compare against SDSU in two weeks. But, just to let you know what kind of stats you are up against:

Sanders vs SDSU
27-32 for 330 yards.

However. I believe this will be a rivalry game for you so I don't expect Walker to be as effective. Then again, I would bet that in his career he has NEVER been that effective.

One more thing, what is up with you claiming to be 1/2, even on your teams website? Most people use the Sports Network Poll and then just deal with it. When we were number one in the coaches poll we didn't call ourselves the number 1/2 team in the country. We were number two, we owned it, we didn't try to look for the only poll that had us at number one and try to use it to promote how good we were.

[Reed Rothchild]

UNI and NDSU would be an interesting matchup this year. The strength of the Bison lies in their running game and that goes against the heart of a run-stuffing UNI defense.

[bisonguy]

One more thing, what is up with you claiming to be 1/2, even on your teams website? Most people use the Sports Network Poll and then just deal with it. When we were number one in the coaches poll we didn't call ourselves the number 1/2 team in the country. We were number two, we owned it, we didn't try to look for the only poll that had us at number one and try to use it to promote how good we were.

The Fargo media has used the coaches poll since NDSU's first season competing in I-AA. NDSU is probably using both now after the media starting receiving solicitations from UNI's SID for #1 votes in the Sports Network poll.

[BisonBacker]

This debate is like my dad can beat up your dad crap. Without seeing both it's really just a stats thing and in that you will never see Walkers best ability which is his performance under pressure. The guy has ICE in his veins. I only wish the two teams could compete on the field to prove which is the best but it is what it is. Regarding the comment about being number one why the insecurity about your ranking? Your going to get your chance to prove your worth in the playoffs something NDSU cannot do. Are you worried some will speculate if you win it all who would really be better? NDSU fans won't hang on that ranking and claim a championship by vote so don't worry. We can however be proud that in some polls we are ranked #1 and I see nothing wrong with that. Go win in the playoffs and you will get the FCS championship if your worthy of it.xcoffeex

[Gil Dobie]

vs Western Illinois (with both teams on the road, perhaps a more accurate comparison than comparing one qb on the road outdoors and one qb at home in the dome)

Walker 13-21 (62%, the same % that you claim was inferior vs ILSU)

Sanders 8-8 (100%, it literally cannot get any better than that.)

Eric Sanders is completing 76.6% of his passes this year. He goes on stretches of 15-20 throws at a time without an incompletion. Walker is 71.6. That means for every one hundred passes thrown Sanders completes 5 more than Walker.

Look, I am in no way trying to knock Walker's performance. He is one heck of a quarterback. Just in MY OPINION not as good as Sanders. We will have another opportunity to compare against SDSU in two weeks. But, just to let you know what kind of stats you are up against:

Sanders vs SDSU
27-32 for 330 yards.

However. I believe this will be a rivalry game for you so I don't expect Walker to be as effective. Then again, I would bet that in his career he has NEVER been that effective.

It's like comparing apples and oranges, different team, different offensive plays, different receivers, different coaches, different opponents, different other shiat. Walker plays well in the Bison scheme, Saunders plays well in the UNI scheme. UNI fans will claim Saunders is better, NDSU fans will claim Walker is better.

[Casey_Orourke]

Has there ever been a similar case where a team moved from one conference to another, went undefeated and thus ineligible for the playoffs?

[BisonBacker]

Good question, I'm not sure.

[No_Skill]

I'm guessing it's never happened before.

Is is just me or has it been really quiet on AGS about the subject? Even from Bison fans.

It seems like there was more talk last year when we went 10-1.

[swaghook]

The Bison and the panthers will get to play head to head next year.The better team will be the one that can reload after losing this years seniors. Let the best team win. xnodx

[swaghook]

I'm guessing it's never happened before.

Is is just me or has it been really quiet on AGS about the subject? Even from Bison fans.

It seems like there was more talk last year when we went 10-1.Should there be a lot of talk? The subject is DOA the Bison won't be in the play offs the FCS will crown a #1 team this year.

Now that does not mean that the number one team this year necessarily has to be the number one team going into the preseason ranking for next year based upon loses to graduation another team may stack up better on paper.;)

[No_Skill]

Should there be a lot of talk? The subject is DOA the Bison won't be in the play offs the FCS will crown a #1 team this year.

Now that does not mean that the number one team this year necessarily has to be the number one team going into the preseason ranking for next year based upon loses to graduation another team may stack up better on paper.;)

Just making an observation. It's been a weird couple of seasons, that's for sure.

If we finish the season 11-0 I see us #2 in the end of regular season polls and no better than #3 in the final polls. 2008 preseason...anywhere in the top 5.

[Griz0383]

How many seniors will NDSU lose to graduation? Montana will lose many but we always play with depth and key personell will be back!

[NDSUFREAK]

....opportunity to compare against SDSU in two weeks. But, just to let you know what kind of stats you are up against:

Sanders vs SDSU
27-32 for 330 yards.

However. I believe this will be a rivalry game for you so I don't expect Walker to be as effective. Then again, I would bet that in his career he has NEVER been that effective.



Walker vs Ball State....451 passing yards, 3 TD, 29-46, 0 INTS

Walker won't have those stats against SDSU. What Walker has over Saunders is the ability to control the field even when he isn't passing. He is a true FIELD GENERAL. Clutch QB, comeback kid. It all doesn't rely on stats. Does he stay composed when down and out, step it up when he needs to. Thread the needle passing the ball. Does he WIN....he sure as hell does.

[NDSUFREAK]

How many seniors will NDSU lose to graduation? Montana will lose many but we always play with depth and key personell will be back!

11 seniors

[BisonBacker]

11 seniors


:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

[Go_Herd]

Walker vs Ball State....451 passing yards, 3 TD, 29-46, 0 INTS

Walker won't have those stats against SDSU. What Walker has over Saunders is the ability to control the field even when he isn't passing. He is a true FIELD GENERAL. Clutch QB, comeback kid. It all doesn't rely on stats. Does he stay composed when down and out, step it up when he needs to. Thread the needle passing the ball. Does he WIN....he sure as hell does.

Lets not go through stats and everything, nothing will be accomplished beacause of it. We know that we wouldn't take anyone as our quarterback other than Walker, and there is no way to convice the nation that he is the best guy in the leauge.

It's like saying my mom bakes better cookies than your mom because she uses bigger chocolate chips, well what if you don't like bigger chips--thats the real question

Lets get the thread back on track.

I don't know if I shoud be impressed with ISU passing offense or dissapointed at our defense. Probably both are needed. Those draw plays sure were working well for ISU in the first half.

[X-Factor]

Illinois State offensive line was very good. I think we had a couple of sacks, but overall they kept the pressure off more than most teams this year and Drone had plenty of time to throw. However, the Bison offense was a huge miss match for Illinois State so it really didn't matter.

[NDSUFREAK]

Lets not go through stats and everything, nothing will be accomplished beacause of it. We know that we wouldn't take anyone as our quarterback other than Walker, and there is no way to convice the nation that he is the best guy in the leauge.

It's like saying my mom bakes better cookies than your mom because she uses bigger chocolate chips, well what if you don't like bigger chips--thats the real question

Lets get the thread back on track.

I don't know if I shoud be impressed with ISU passing offense or dissapointed at our defense. Probably both are needed. Those draw plays sure were working well for ISU in the first half.

i merely responded to the comment of how he said Walker has never had an effective (stat) game. its alright

[Houndawg]

What Walker has over Saunders is the ability to control the field even when he isn't passing. He is a true FIELD GENERAL. Clutch QB, comeback kid. It all doesn't rely on stats. Does he stay composed when down and out, step it up when he needs to. Thread the needle passing the ball. Does he WIN....he sure as hell does.

I haven't seen Walker play but every quality you mention here is posessed by Sanders, in spades. Personally I'll take Nick Hill over either of them.;)

[BisonBacker]

In all fairness to any of the QB's mentioned for fans who haven't seen all of them play in more then just a few games it's all just opinion anyway. They are all good.

[Go_Herd]

i merely responded to the comment of how he said Walker has never had an effective (stat) game. its alright

yeah i know freak, your like the first line of defense for anyone calling out NDSU players and I've always appreciated that.

http://blogs.argusleadermedia.com/sports/

SDSU's blog, He put it a great way, the Southland prides themselves on being built on speed and always figure that teams from the north are too slow to compete wih them. Look at our and SDSU's record against the Southland. That's why you gotta play the game.

[Jacks02]

vs Western Illinois (with both teams on the road, perhaps a more accurate comparison than comparing one qb on the road outdoors and one qb at home in the dome)

Walker 13-21 (62%, the same % that you claim was inferior vs ILSU)

Sanders 8-8 (100%, it literally cannot get any better than that.)

Eric Sanders is completing 76.6% of his passes this year. He goes on stretches of 15-20 throws at a time without an incompletion. Walker is 71.6. That means for every one hundred passes thrown Sanders completes 5 more than Walker.

Look, I am in no way trying to knock Walker's performance. He is one heck of a quarterback. Just in MY OPINION not as good as Sanders. We will have another opportunity to compare against SDSU in two weeks. But, just to let you know what kind of stats you are up against:

Sanders vs SDSU
27-32 for 330 yards.

However. I believe this will be a rivalry game for you so I don't expect Walker to be as effective. Then again, I would bet that in his career he has NEVER been that effective.

One more thing, what is up with you claiming to be 1/2, even on your teams website? Most people use the Sports Network Poll and then just deal with it. When we were number one in the coaches poll we didn't call ourselves the number 1/2 team in the country. We were number two, we owned it, we didn't try to look for the only poll that had us at number one and try to use it to promote how good we were.

Sanders is the best QB I've seen play against SDSU in a long time. He completely picked us apart that game.

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I'd have to say that Sanders is a better QB than Walker but that's like saying Reese's Peanut Butter Cups are better than Reese's Peanut Butter Big Cups.

http://www.hersheys.com/reeses/products/index.asp

[gregatim]

Perhaps the NFL will ultimately answer the debate of Walker v. Sanders for us?xcoffeex

[NDB]

their QB is better.



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walker had a great day throwing a few unbelievable passes.

his line read 22-15-0-233-2-44-0

four passes were flat out dropped by our receivers (man it's tough to catch a ball when it hits you right in both hands!)

only two drives out of twelve led by walker ended on 4th down

sanders may be better, but he would have to play like john elway week in and week out to justify a claim like yours.

[Thunderstruck84]

One more thing, what is up with you claiming to be 1/2, even on your teams website? Most people use the Sports Network Poll and then just deal with it. When we were number one in the coaches poll we didn't call ourselves the number 1/2 team in the country. We were number two, we owned it, we didn't try to look for the only poll that had us at number one and try to use it to promote how good we were.
Apparently "most people" doesn't include the NCAA who has only the coaches FCS poll on they're website or ESPN as the worldwide leader referred to NDSU as the top ranked team in the FCS several times during the coverage and analysis of the NDSU/Minnesota game.

There is nothing wrong with promoting a #1 ranking in a major poll and being proud of it. It is even more of a boon for Bison fans since our team doesn't have the opportunity to prove it themselves in the playoffs and until NDSU in not ranked #1 in either the Sports Network or Coaches poll I will continue to cheer for and refer to my team as the #1 ranked Bison.

[da_Bison]

vs Western Illinois (with both teams on the road, perhaps a more accurate comparison than comparing one qb on the road outdoors and one qb at home in the dome)

Walker 13-21 (62%, the same % that you claim was inferior vs ILSU)

Sanders 8-8 (100%, it literally cannot get any better than that.)

Eric Sanders is completing 76.6% of his passes this year. He goes on stretches of 15-20 throws at a time without an incompletion. Walker is 71.6. That means for every one hundred passes thrown Sanders completes 5 more than Walker.

Look, I am in no way trying to knock Walker's performance. He is one heck of a quarterback. Just in MY OPINION not as good as Sanders. We will have another opportunity to compare against SDSU in two weeks. But, just to let you know what kind of stats you are up against:

Sanders vs SDSU
27-32 for 330 yards.

However. I believe this will be a rivalry game for you so I don't expect Walker to be as effective. Then again, I would bet that in his career he has NEVER been that effective.

One more thing, what is up with you claiming to be 1/2, even on your teams website? Most people use the Sports Network Poll and then just deal with it. When we were number one in the coaches poll we didn't call ourselves the number 1/2 team in the country. We were number two, we owned it, we didn't try to look for the only poll that had us at number one and try to use it to promote how good we were.
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Hey numb nuts, its probably because WE ARE # 1, check the ISU web site and read who beat them, also do a search for Redbirds and ALL the sports writers say #1 NDSU. Don't get so cocky, I have a feeling you WILL NOT be in Chatty. IMHO, it will be either SIU or APP State winning it all, possibly GSU

http://goredbirds.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/ilsu-m-footbl-body.html

[JBB]

UNI and NDSU would be an interesting matchup this year. The strength of the Bison lies in their running game and that goes against the heart of a run-stuffing UNI defense.

Actually the hallmark of the #1 ranked NDSU BISON is balance. Its true we score a little more on the ground and do rush for a few more yds than we get through the air, but if the run is stopped Walker will win it with his arm.

Ask the Central Michigan Chippewas. Walker put up 261 yds passing against a team that made it tough to rush, at least for a while. I think the same would happen to UNI.

The Redbirds may have had a little more gas in the tank when UNI squeaked by with a 10 pt win but the comparative scores of the common opponent lead me to believe NDSU is the best team in the land.

[Bison77]

vs Western Illinois (with both teams on the road, perhaps a more accurate comparison than comparing one qb on the road outdoors and one qb at home in the dome)

Walker 13-21 (62%, the same % that you claim was inferior vs ILSU)

Sanders 8-8 (100%, it literally cannot get any better than that.)

Eric Sanders is completing 76.6% of his passes this year. He goes on stretches of 15-20 throws at a time without an incompletion. Walker is 71.6. That means for every one hundred passes thrown Sanders completes 5 more than Walker.

Look, I am in no way trying to knock Walker's performance. He is one heck of a quarterback. Just in MY OPINION not as good as Sanders. We will have another opportunity to compare against SDSU in two weeks. But, just to let you know what kind of stats you are up against:

Sanders vs SDSU
27-32 for 330 yards.

However. I believe this will be a rivalry game for you so I don't expect Walker to be as effective. Then again, I would bet that in his career he has NEVER been that effective.

One more thing, what is up with you claiming to be 1/2, even on your teams website? Most people use the Sports Network Poll and then just deal with it. When we were number one in the coaches poll we didn't call ourselves the number 1/2 team in the country. We were number two, we owned it, we didn't try to look for the only poll that had us at number one and try to use it to promote how good we were.

Since you think that stat's tell it all - what was the point spread of UNI's win over the Redbirds vs the Bison? xthumbsupx - Hell we could have scored a couple more in the 4th quarter if we wanted.

[Chi Panther]

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Hey numb nuts, its probably because WE ARE # 1, check the ISU web site and read who beat them, also do a search for Redbirds and ALL the sports writers say #1 NDSU. Don't get so cocky, I have a feeling you WILL NOT be in Chatty. IMHO, it will be either SIU or APP State winning it all, possibly GSU

http://goredbirds.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/ilsu-m-footbl-body.html

Possibly the GSU team who barely beat SDSU at home.......

[Chi Panther]

Actually the hallmark of the #1 ranked NDSU BISON is balance. Its true we score a little more on the ground and do rush for a few more yds than we get through the air, but if the run is stopped Walker will win it with his arm.

Ask the Central Michigan Chippewas. Walker put up 261 yds passing against a team that made it tough to rush, at least for a while. I think the same would happen to UNI.

The Redbirds may have had a little more gas in the tank when UNI squeaked by with a 10 pt win but the comparative scores of the common opponent lead me to believe NDSU is the best team in the land.

Where did you play Ill State and where did we play them.....also rivalry game.....

Both teams are good.....it would have been a damn shame for UNI/NDSU/Montana/McNeese State to all have to play early in the playoffs......NDSU deserves to be in on ability.....but not by the Rules......

[Barnstormer]

Can you really compare scores from common opponents? Sure it's fun for this stuff, but the only way to prove if one team is better then the other is for them to play.

Example:
Kansas State wins at #7 Texas 41-21
Texas wins at Iowa State 56-3

So that means ISU will lose to Kansas State?

No, ISU wins 31-20

But I suppose I can use that logic to say UNI is better then Texas. :-) Yeah, I'll do that!

[lizrdgizrd]

Hey numb nuts, its probably because WE ARE # 1, check the ISU web site and read who beat them, also do a search for Redbirds and ALL the sports writers say #1 NDSU.


Actually the hallmark of the #1 ranked NDSU BISON is balance.
What's with all the #1 talk, Bisoners? I know you're #1 in the coaches' poll, but AGS and SN both have you at #2 (at least until later today). xconfusedx

[Thunderstruck84]

What's with all the #1 talk, Bisoners? I know you're #1 in the coaches' poll, but AGS and SN both have you at #2 (at least until later today). xconfusedx
Because in the eyes of many Bison fans, including myself, we view NDSU as the best FCS football team in the country and we consider a #1 ranking in any major poll this early in our transition to be a tremendous accomplishment and something to be proud of. NDSU also does not have the playoffs to look forward to so recognition in the polls is the greatest metric of their seasonal accomplishments. I could argue til I'm blue in the face about who is better between NDSU and UNI but the bottom line is both teams have legitimate claims to be considered as the #1 team in the land and, as of now, both fan bases can legitimately claim that they're team is #1.

[lizrdgizrd]

Because in the eyes of many Bison fans, including myself, we view NDSU as the best FCS football team in the country and we consider a #1 ranking in any major poll this early in our transition to be a tremendous accomplishment and something to be proud of. NDSU also does not have the playoffs to look forward to so recognition in the polls is the greatest metric of their seasonal accomplishments. I could argue til I'm blue in the face about who is better between NDSU and UNI but the bottom line is both teams have legitimate claims to be considered as the #1 team in the land and, as of now, both fan bases can legitimately claim that they're team is #1.
You can't have 2 #1s. That only works in teeball. xpeacex

[Thunderstruck84]

You can't have 2 #1s. That only works in teeball. xpeacex
And there won't be at the end of season. Each team has a legitimate claim to being #1 right now. I only have one #1 as I'm sure you do, even though they are most likely different. NDSU's problem is just that (*teeball reference*) our last batter will come a month earlier than the season ending #1's will.

[bisonguy]

What's with all the #1 talk, Bisoners? I know you're #1 in the coaches' poll, but AGS and SN both have you at #2 (at least until later today). xconfusedx

It's not just Bison fans:
http://www.ncaasports.com/football/mens/story/10427078


READY TO ROEHL: Top-ranked North Dakota State upended its second Division I Football Bowl Subdivision opponent of 2007 as the Bison downed Minnesota, 27-21, in front of 63,088 at the Metrodome.

[ONCEaBISON/ALWAYSaBISON]

It's not just Bison fans:
http://www.ncaasports.com/football/mens/story/10427078

On top of that, from all I have read on the opposing school websites, their SIDs are also calling NDSU the #1 team. I am sure UNI's opponents are doing the same when writing about them.