UNI vs MSU

[01pantherfan]

UNI will be at MSU this weekend, I havnt seen much about the Bears other then scores, looks like the can put up some points but also get scored on allot.

I think UNI will be focused after last weeks scare from YSU

Thoughts ?


my prediction

UNI 42
MSU 17

[andy7171]

I'm an idiot.

[MSUBear42]

I have no clue what to think. I think it's either a blowout by UNI or a really close game, depending on how UNI comes out to play. There's not doubt that MSU will be pumped up for this, this is our "National Championship" of sorts.

UNI 42
MSU 31

[MR. CHICKEN]

I'm not going to call this an upset, but I think MSU will be playing to redeem themselves after this last disasterous weekend. They'll be playing for pride at home.


DISASTEROUS WEEKENDxconfusedx .....MISSOURI STATE BEAT INDIANA STATE 63-7................BRAWK!

[andy7171]

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DISASTEROUS WEEKENDxconfusedx .....MISSOURI STATE BEAT INDIANA STATE 63-7................BRAWK!

I ... I .... inexcusable. :o

[Killsback]

UNI 52
MSU 13

[DOME]

I think Farley is a little ticked about getting out coached this last week so he wants to make a statement.
UNI 52
MSU 14

[D1B]

Beware of "Panther Disease"

Panther Disease: A nearly always fatal malady where UNI loses at least one regular season game it should easily win. Said loss usually costs them home field throughout the playoffs and thus a national championship or they outright miss the playoffs. See: Western Illinois 2006, North Dakota 2006

MSU 24
UNI 10

[crunifan]

I'm excited for this game. I'm coming down to Springfield for the first time and I know quite a few other Panther fans are as well. Hopefully there is a nice purple section down there.

With the close call last week, I expect the players to be focused and well prepared, and when that happens, UNI is pretty tough to beat.

[RE/MAXGriz]

I know nothing about either team, I'm just trying to get my post numbers up xlolx

UNI 35, MSU 29

[friederr]

UNI should come out strong after a little scare last weekend... also, a win clinches the gateway! look for a big game from the panthers

38-10

[unigriff]

i've been to every game so far...for a poor college student...thats a pretty good traveling record:) 5-0 (3-0 at home)

i am still up in the air on making the trip...so who knows...

If i go: UNI 45 MSU 21
If I dont go UNI 34-MSU 28.

[friederr]

3 of the 5 away games were somewhat close to cedar falls, but still impressive

[BearsCountry]

The Terry Allen Bowl. I'm hoping for a repeat of 2005.

[unigriff]

Driving (with stops involved) one way.

Iowa State 1hr 15 minutes,
Drake 2 hours
WIU 3.5 hrs
Illinois State 4-4.5 hours
SDSU 4.5 Hours

Missouri State-7hrs

[unigriff]

The Terry Allen Bowl. I'm hoping for a repeat of 2005.

well sanders is already injured, so u missed out on that possible factor,
this team is quite possibly BETTER than 2005s team.
+ a wakeup call last week....smells like trouble for Bear Week and the TA Bowl Part 3.

[nmatsen]

Beware of "Panther Disease"

Panther Disease: A nearly always fatal malady where UNI loses at least one regular season game it should easily win. Said loss usually costs them home field throughout the playoffs and thus a national championship or they outright miss the playoffs. See: Western Illinois 2006, North Dakota 2006

MSU 24
UNI 10

Illinois State 2001

[Houndawg]

UNI will be at MSU this weekend, I havnt seen much about the Bears other then scores, looks like the can put up some points but also get scored on allot.

I think UNI will be focused after last weeks scare from YSU

Thoughts ?


my prediction

UNI 42
MSU 17

Good defenses haven't had any trouble against them. Not smack, they're still a couple of years away. Pressure on the Freshman QB is the key to the game.

[PantherRob82]

Should be a win in store for my first time down to springfield. Will be fun either way. xthumbsupx

[leatherneck177]

UNI 38

MSU 13

[Panther FANatic]

Good defenses haven't had any trouble against them. Not smack, they're still a couple of years away. Pressure on the Freshman QB is the key to the game.

THAT ^^^ might pose a problem. I have noticed that we are having a lot of trouble getting pressure on the oppositions QB without blitzing. I still think we are a far superior team but I definately don't want to get in a scoring match with them. I know their coaching staff (or at least the good ones from UNI) will have them ready.

[matboz]

I think UNI comes out ready to play ... scores some big points in the first half ... and the reserves continue scoring in the second half (see WIU recap) ... 41-10

[Houndawg]

THAT ^^^ might pose a problem. I have noticed that we are having a lot of trouble getting pressure on the oppositions QB without blitzing. I still think we are a far superior team but I definately don't want to get in a scoring match with them. I know their coaching staff (or at least the good ones from UNI) will have them ready.

Whatever it takes to make him decide quickly.

[Reed Rothchild]

Beware of "Panther Disease"

Panther Disease: A nearly always fatal malady where UNI loses at least one regular season game it should easily win. Said loss usually costs them home field throughout the playoffs and thus a national championship or they outright miss the playoffs. See: Western Illinois 2006, North Dakota 2006

MSU 24
UNI 10


Illinois State 2001
SIU 2000
WIU 1999
I think Dunbar lost to Indiana State once.

[Reed Rothchild]

THAT ^^^ might pose a problem. I have noticed that we are having a lot of trouble getting pressure on the oppositions QB without blitzing. I still think we are a far superior team but I definately don't want to get in a scoring match with them. I know their coaching staff (or at least the good ones from UNI) will have them ready.

Yeah, it seems we've been blitzing a lot less in order to have more guys back in zone. The dline hasn't been getting the pressure they used to.

[Chi Panther]

Seems that we have alot of Run Stuffers and not Pass Rushers......

[spelunker64]

C'mon MSU! xrolleyesx :D

[Barnstormer]

Da Bears only chance to win is if they have Ditka. :-)

[unigriff]

ITS CONFIRMED...UNIGRIFF will be in attendance....spells DOOM for da teddy bears!

[skinny_uncle]

The Bears have not lost at home yet this year. They will this weekend. They have no D. Corey Lewis will have a field day.

[PantherRob82]

I predict Corey Lewis goes over 1k for the year on Saturday.

[JayJ79]

I predict Corey Lewis goes over 1k for the year on Saturday.

Yes, I'd be quite surprised (barring injury) if he's not able to pick up 113 yards (currently sitting at 887 for the season) against a defense that had given up 300 rushing yards on average against conference opponents.


Conference Games Only - Stats
RUSHING DEFENSE G Rushes Yards Avg. TD Yds/G
----------------------------------------------------------
1. Northern Iowa....... 4 121 420 3.5 1 105.0
6. Missouri State...... 5 272 1516 5.6 20 303.2

[MSULB#47]

MSU will score and the MSU Defense will make the stops they have to make.....

UNI vs MSU should be a very exciting game..the earlier MSU can put points on the board the better....

If your basing your position on the WIU game, that was a strange game.....

Donaldson had 200+ yards by the 4th Quarter, yet MSU was still down by ONE touchdown with 10 minutes left in the game xeyebrowx

MSU just could'nt score in the redzone...nor can you stop a team ALL game long in the redzone...without scoring yourself.....that simple

[crunifan]

MSU will score and the MSU Defense will make the stops they have to make.....

UNI vs MSU should be a very exciting game..the earlier MSU can put points on the board the better....

If your basing your position on the WIU game, that was a strange game.....

Donaldson had 200+ yards by the 4th Quarter, yet MSU was still down by ONE touchdown with 10 minutes left in the game xeyebrowx

MSU just could'nt score in the redzone...nor can you stop a team ALL game long in the redzone...without scoring yourself.....that simple

I think they were basing their position on UNI vs. Western Illinois. We held Donaldson to less than 100 yards, and we ran ALL over their defense. UNI made running over a good WIU defense look amazingly easy.

So, if we can do that to a decent defense, we imagine it should be even easier for a bad defense.

[BearsCountry]

Oh brother not this again.

[skinny_uncle]

I predict Corey Lewis goes over 1k for the year on Saturday.
I'll bet you are right. The Bear D has been giving up 240 yards per game rushing. The only team giving up more in the Gateway is Indiana State.

[ShowMeBear2]

UNI will be at MSU this weekend, I havnt seen much about the Bears other then scores, looks like the can put up some points but also get scored on allot.

I think UNI will be focused after last weeks scare from YSU

Thoughts ?


my prediction

UNI 42
MSU 17


UNI also can play defense. Bears defense has trouble stopping anyteam from 3rd and long this year.

[ShowMeBear2]

Only good player Bears have on defense is 1 Jeron Poole.........straight from Austin,Texas.

[MSUBear42]

I thought poole was from CA?

What about Dawson? He's pretty solid. And Farar, too.

[MSUfan2010]

If UNI has a decent running game they should have a field day. Bears can score points, its true, but cant stop a grandma with a cane from running the ball.

UNI-38
MSU-24

[skinny_uncle]

If UNI has a decent running game they should have a field day. Bears can score points, its true, but cant stop a grandma with a cane from running the ball.

UNI-38
MSU-24

UNI averages over 200 yards a game rushing with Lewis over 100 yds/game. The flipside is their rushing D only gives up 89 yards a game. Time for the Air Bear offense. You are in deep trouble.

[ysubigred]

Driving (with stops involved) one way.

Iowa State 1hr 15 minutes,
Drake 2 hours
WIU 3.5 hrs
Illinois State 4-4.5 hours
SDSU 4.5 Hours

Missouri State-7hrs

How many hours to Y-town xcoffeex

MSU 41-13

[unigriff]

ysubig...we didnt go to YSU this year did we...no...go read the rest of the posts...as a poor student...making all those roadtrips...pretty impressive...doubt ull find too many "normal" students going to away games...especially in the FCS.

[douglasdmb]

I hear that one of UNI's "star players" will not be playing on Saturday. What's the deal?

[Mountain Panther]

I hear that one of UNI's "star players" will not be playing on Saturday. What's the deal?

RUMORS until something official comes out. That thread on PantherNation has already been removed since it's so ridiculous.

[PantherRob82]

How many hours to Y-town xcoffeex

MSU 41-13

I think it was about 10-11 hrs last year. Looking forward to coming again next year.

[PantherRob82]

I hear that one of UNI's "star players" will not be playing on Saturday. What's the deal?

Can't imagine it would matter.

[ysubigred]

ysubig...we didnt go to YSU this year did we...no...go read the rest of the posts...as a poor student...making all those roadtrips...pretty impressive...doubt ull find too many "normal" students going to away games...especially in the FCS.

I know you didn't. I was just wondering about the mileage maybe last year??! Map quest and someone who actually drove it +/- usually differs.

Not being a smarty pants xpeacex

[ysubigred]

I think it was about 10-11 hrs last year. Looking forward to coming again next year.

Cool. I Live in KY (Fort Knox) and planned on heading up to the Fabulous UNI Dome but too many other commitments came up xbawlingx

[MSUBear42]

Can't imagine it would matter.

Sure made a difference last time you guys were down here.

[Mountain Panther]

Sure made a difference last time you guys were down here.

We didn't lose our star quarterback this time.

[MSUBear42]

Yeah, sorry to hear about it. It sucks whenever anyone gets kicked off a team with only 2 games left.

[MSUBear42]

The podcast from the Springfield News-Leader about the game can be found here: http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=BLOGS07

[JayJ79]

Yeah, sorry to hear about it. It sucks whenever anyone gets kicked off a team with only 2 games left.

Hope you're not a Math major down in Mo State.
@ Mo State
Indiana State
Southern Utah

that's THREE games.
And barring a COMPLETE collapse, they will play at least one playoff game.

[douglasdmb]

Hope you're not a Math major down in Mo State.
@ Mo State
Indiana State
Southern Utah

that's THREE games.


You sure showed him. xeyebrowx

[JayJ79]

You sure showed him. xeyebrowx

sorry, forgot my emoticon to indicate the joking tone of my post :p

[skinny_uncle]

RUMORS until something official comes out. That thread on PantherNation has already been removed since it's so ridiculous.
Sounds juicy. What's the scoop?

[Mountain Panther]

Sounds juicy. What's the scoop?

The entire offense line AND the backups perished in a freak strawberry picking accident. Tragic. xnonono2x

[skinny_uncle]

The entire offense line AND the backups perished in a freak strawberry picking accident. Tragic. xnonono2x
xlolx

[PantherRob82]

Sure made a difference last time you guys were down here.

a 3 pt difference. We could throw 0 passes and win this saturday. Sanders only threw 8 against WIU. xrolleyesx

[PantherRob82]

Chris Parsons senior safety is out. A majority of fans didn't like him and will be glad to see Nick Nelson playing more. Bummer for Parsons. Too bad. shouldn't effect the game.

[MSUBear42]

Hope you're not a Math major down in Mo State.
@ Mo State
Indiana State
Southern Utah

that's THREE games.
And barring a COMPLETE collapse, they will play at least one playoff game.

What the? xnonox We only have 2, forgot others had more.

[crunifan]

What the? xnonox We only have 2, forgot others had more.

I take it that Missouri State has a bye the last week of the season?

That's pretty unfortunate. Teams really appreciate that extra week to rest and recover.

[skinny_uncle]

a 3 pt difference. We could throw 0 passes and win this saturday. Sanders only threw 8 against WIU. xrolleyesx
Could be. The Bears have not shown any ability to stop a good running game.

[MSULB#47]

UNI also can play defense. Bears defense has trouble stopping anyteam from 3rd and long this year.

There it is...thats what kills us every game....3rd and 22..3rd and 19..3rd and 9....

The D makes their stands...but you have to be consistent on 3rd down....

Excellent Observation!

[MSULB#47]

Hmmmmmxeyebrowx

UNI is ranked 6th in Pass Defense
MSU is 7th

interesting.....

MSU is 2nd in Pass OFFENSE....UNI 3rd...

interesting

Rushing Offense

4. Northern Iowa....... 8 380 1644 4.3 21 205.5
5. Missouri State...... 9 390 1836 4.7 30 204.0

PASS DEF EFFICIENCY G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds TD Effic
--------------------------------------------------------------
1. Western Illinois.... 9 241 121 12 50.2 1367 9 100.2
2. Southern Illinois... 8 242 140 14 57.9 1425 4 101.2
3. Northern Iowa....... 8 272 169 13 62.1 1755 7 115.3
4. Missouri State...... 9 264 157 10 59.5 2017 9 127.3
************************************************** ***

Here is our achilles heal.....

OPP 3RD-DN CONVERT G Conv Att Pct
-------------------------------------------
1. Western Illinois.... 9 42 126 33.3
2. Southern Illinois... 8 39 112 34.8
3. Northern Iowa....... 8 40 107 37.4
4. Youngstown State.... 9 51 129 39.5
5. Illinois State...... 9 55 129 42.6
6. Missouri State...... 9 63 126 50.0
7. Indiana State....... 9 60 117 51.3

[MSULB#47]

Do the math regarding the number of good defensive players MSU has......

TACKLES (All positions) Player Team Cl G Pos Solo Ast Total Avg/G Sack
----------------------------------------------------------------
1. Stewart,Kye......... Stat Manipulators
2. Hronec,Bill........... Stat Manipulators
3. Williams,Jason...... WIU JR 9 LB 35 56 91 10.1 6
4. Faulkner, Shonda.... INS SR 9 LB 37 51 88 9.8 1
5. Middlebrooks,Darrius INS FR 9 DB 34 53 87 9.7 0
6. Bennett,Jerome...... WIU SR 9 LB 22 61 83 9.2 0
7. Poole,Jeron......... MSU SR 9 LB 33 47 80 8.9 2
8. Dawson,Jeremy....... MSU JR 9 LB 21 57 78 8.7 1
9. Mixon, Chauncey..... SIU SO 8 LB 34 35 69 8.6 4
10.Mobley, Chris....... INS SO 9 DB 34 37 71 7.9 0
Wright, J........... YSU SR 9 LB 40 31 71 7.9 0
12.Miller,Derek........ MSU FR 9 DB 31 38 69 7.7 0

Our DB Marus Colbert is 17th in the Gateway in Tackles.....

We have some great players on the Defensive side of the ball!!!

[Panther FANatic]

Chris Parsons senior safety is out. A majority of fans didn't like him and will be glad to see Nick Nelson playing more. Bummer for Parsons. Too bad. shouldn't effect the game.

Really this is a very interesting comment to me... A lot of fans don't like him? Wow that seems really harsh to not like a critical player on your team???

[Thunderstruck84]

C'mon MSU! xrolleyesx :D

I concur! xhurrayx

[douglasdmb]

Hmmmmmxeyebrowx

UNI is ranked 6th in Pass Defense
MSU is 7th

interesting.....

MSU is 2nd in Pass OFFENSE....UNI 3rd...

interesting

Rushing Offense

4. Northern Iowa....... 8 380 1644 4.3 21 205.5
5. Missouri State...... 9 390 1836 4.7 30 204.0

PASS DEF EFFICIENCY G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds TD Effic
--------------------------------------------------------------
1. Western Illinois.... 9 241 121 12 50.2 1367 9 100.2
2. Southern Illinois... 8 242 140 14 57.9 1425 4 101.2
3. Northern Iowa....... 8 272 169 13 62.1 1755 7 115.3
4. Missouri State...... 9 264 157 10 59.5 2017 9 127.3
************************************************** ***

Here is our achilles heal.....

OPP 3RD-DN CONVERT G Conv Att Pct
-------------------------------------------
1. Western Illinois.... 9 42 126 33.3
2. Southern Illinois... 8 39 112 34.8
3. Northern Iowa....... 8 40 107 37.4
4. Youngstown State.... 9 51 129 39.5
5. Illinois State...... 9 55 129 42.6
6. Missouri State...... 9 63 126 50.0
7. Indiana State....... 9 60 117 51.3

Where are the stats that compare our run defense to UNI's? xeyebrowx

[MSULB#47]

Where are the stats that compare our run defense to UNI's? xeyebrowx

Its already been posted!!!...I knew you would come in doing the 'twist'xcoolx

Your too predictable doug..it was cute for awhile...

Objectivity is the name of the game these days....



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[JayJ79]

Where are the stats that compare our run defense to UNI's? xeyebrowx

You guys have a run defense?? xsmiley_wix

Just kidding with ya.
Best of luck, Bears.
Hope it's an exciting, injury-free game tommorrow.

[douglasdmb]

Its already been posted!!!...I knew you would come in doing the 'twist'xcoolx

Your too predictable doug..it was cute for awhile...

Objectivity is the name of the game these days....



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Fair enough, but the stats that you posted made it seem like you were ignoring the stats that were posted all of two pages ago.

How am I being subjective?

[MSULB#47]

Fair enough, but the stats that you posted made it seem like you were ignoring the stats that were posted all of two pages ago.

How am I being subjective?

Doug, relax, we were discussing some specific points relating to the Defense.

One: Ability of our Defensive Players...Stats given....

Two: Point was made about our inability to hold our opponent on 3rd down - Stats given

In fact the issue of # of yards we give up is misleading anyway....considering 500+ was given up to one team....and we still had opportunities to win that particular game..in the 4th qtr....

The real issue with our defense is NOT the 'Run Defense Stat'..its the Opponents 3rd Down conversion stat.....rated #6th xsmhx

If we can hold our Opponent 3rd down conversions to a minimum...who cares how many yards they run..If you dont have the ball you dont score...

Football is a simple game.... ;)

[skinny_uncle]

If the Bears pull this off, I will be impressed. I think your QB would have to have a career day to pull it off. Air Bear is the way to go.

[douglasdmb]

Doug, relax, we were discussing some specific points relating to the Defense.

One: Ability of our Defensive Players...Stats given....

Two: Point was made about our inability to hold our opponent on 3rd down - Stats given

In fact the issue of # of yards we give up is misleading anyway....considering 500+ was given up to one team....and we still had opportunities to win that particular game..in the 4th qtr....

The real issue with our defense is NOT the 'Run Defense Stat'..its the Opponents 3rd Down conversion stat.....rated #6th xsmhx

If we can hold our Opponent 3rd down conversions to a minimum...who cares how many yards they run..If you dont have the ball you dont score...

Football is a simple game.... ;)

1.) Is it at all possible that our 3rd Down conversion numbers are so bad because our run defense is bad and gives up first downs on the ground?

2.) I don't care how close the WIU game was going into the fourth quarter, we still gave up a ton of yards. Have you considered the fact that if our run defense was better that we might have had the lead at that point?

[MSUBear42]

No joke /\


BTW, congrats on Jerons TD Interception return.

[BearsCountry]

If the Bears pull this off, I will be impressed. I think your QB would have to have a career day to pull it off. Air Bear is the way to go.

I agree with that and we have a pretty good ace in the hole on the sideline.

[PantherRob82]

Really this is a very interesting comment to me... A lot of fans don't like him? Wow that seems really harsh to not like a critical player on your team???

He was cocky and made some bonehead moves. Wish he didn't do what he did, but that said, a good amount of people didn't like him.

[Houndawg]

I concur! xhurrayx

Not me. I want them undefeated going into the rematch with SIU.:D

[PantherRob82]

Not me. I want them undefeated going into the rematch with SIU.:D

Which will probably be 2nd rd unless you guys get a seed. xnonono2x

[MSUBear42]

Good game, UNI. #1 for a reason.

[skinny_uncle]

Which will probably be 2nd rd unless you guys get a seed. xnonono2x
With UMass losing today, it's a possibility.

[Reed Rothchild]

MSU has always had a reputation of being the dirtiest team in the Gateway. Players don't forget.

[douglasdmb]

MSU has always had a reputation of being the dirtiest team in the Gateway. Players don't forget.

Examples?