2022 FCS Coaching news

[kdinva]

VMI's Coach Wachenheim resigns......been very hard for VMI to compete recently with the COVID/Double redshirt stuff.

https://roanoke.com/sports/college/scott-wachenheim-resigns-as-vmis-football-coach/article_fb3adc22-690e-11ed-8aae-03ca24f62635.html

[Libertine]

Wach is arguably the most accomplished football coach at VMI in at least the last half century, particularly in light of how college football has changed. It's even more remarkable given the number of quality assistant coaches and high-level grad transfers that his program ultimately developed for other schools. Good luck to him and Karla going forward.

[Mocs123]

Wach did a good job at VMI. The Keydets head coaching job has to be one of the most challenging in the country and he had some success there.

[FUBeAR]

Hate to see him go. Got the absolute most out of the talent available to him. Must have an incredible ability to ID HS talent that will fit into the program. Also, had heavy ‘churn’ of Assistants - most moving up to bigger/better jobs and Team did not lose continuity. Really, really good Football Coach. SoCon will miss him. Hey, maybe once he’s had some time off, TR or Maconga, as an Asst Coach, might appeal to him. He would make any Team better.

[ngineer]

Hate to see him go. Got the absolute most out of the talent available to him. Must have an incredible ability to ID HS talent that will fit into the program. Also, had heavy ‘churn’ of Assistants - most moving up to bigger/better jobs and Team did not lose continuity. Really, really good Football Coach. SoCon will miss him. Hey, maybe once he’s had some time off, TR or Maconga, as an Asst Coach, might appeal to him. He would make any Team better.

Think he'd be a fit for Lehigh?

[FUBeAR]

Think he'd be a fit for Lehigh?
Without question

[Pards Rule]

Think he'd be a fit for Lehigh?

I looked online this morning and Gilmore still there - as of now...Hmmm Wachenheim to Bethlehem?

[Pards Rule]

Ngineer respect your insight and opinions - what do you think of Troxell?

[FUBeAR]

I looked online this morning and Gilmore still there - as of now...Hmmm Wachenheim to Bethlehem?
Might prefer the beach to the mountains. Could be headed to ChuckTown as the next Bell Captain for CIT’s Football Team. Keydet to Cadet Coach has been done before… on the hardcourt.

[Libertine]

Might prefer the beach to the mountains. Could be headed to ChuckTown as the next Bell Captain for CIT’s Football Team. Keydet to Cadet Coach has been done before… on the hardcourt.

I laughed when I read this comment. "Yeah, right", I thought.

And then I saw this...


The Citadel announced Monday it would not be renewing head football coach Brent Thompson's contract (https://abcnews4.com/news/local/the-citadel-decides-not-to-renew-contract-with-head-football-coach-brent-thompson-wciv).

[ElCid]

It's now official, our coach is out. Started out great, but had a slow downward trend. Lots of talk by fans, but not sure of direction. I hope we get someone who sticks around a bit, but not likely in today's world.

[FUBeAR]

It's now official, our coach is out. Started out great, but had a slow downward trend. Lots of talk by fans, but not sure of direction. I hope we get someone who sticks around a bit, but not likely in today's world.
What would you think about Coach W. coming to CIT?

[OhioHen]

VMI's Coach Wachenheim resigns......been very hard for VMI to compete recently with the COVID/Double redshirt stuff.

https://roanoke.com/sports/college/scott-wachenheim-resigns-as-vmis-football-coach/article_fb3adc22-690e-11ed-8aae-03ca24f62635.html
If he ends up coaching another FCS team, that team immediately makes my watch list for the upcoming season. If already on the watch list, they receive serious consideration for inclusion in my preseason poll. Dude is that good.

[DFW HOYA]

Rob Ambrose out at Towson. 76-76 in 13 seasons, highlighted by a 2013 FCS finals appearance.

Tigers finished 6-5 this past season.

https://towsontigers.com/news/2022/11/21/ambrose-will-not-return-as-towson-football-head-coach.aspx

[ngineer]

Ngineer respect your insight and opinions - what do you think of Troxell?

I "liked" the decision to hire him last year, as I remember his stint at the school earlier, plus he bleeds maroon (I was hoping LC would make another non-sensical hire like Garrett!). I sense the players like and 'gravitate' to him, like our guys did with Andy. You don't see that at Lehigh, now. I do think he needs changes on offense. Not sure if it is lack of personnel, as I know LC had a number of impactful injuries this year. But, overall, I think he had a good first season..winning four and almost knocking off the champ.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

It's noon Monday and Tom Gilmore is still listed as head coach on Lehigh's website! WHY?!?!?!

[ngineer]

I laughed when I read this comment. "Yeah, right", I thought.

And then I saw this...

Almost looks like a done deal in the background! BTW, Bethlehem is only 60 miles from the 'shore' as opposed to the 'beach'!!

[wapiti]

Will Beau @CP be given one more year?
He has been HC for 3 season. (One being the short Covid season)




Cal Poly Mustangs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Poly_Mustangs_football) (Big Sky Conference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Sky_Conference)) (2020–Present)


2020 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_NCAA_Division_I_FCS_football_season)
Cal Poly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Cal_Poly_Mustangs_football_team)
0–3
0–3[a] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beau_Baldwin#cite_note-10)
8th





2021 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_NCAA_Division_I_FCS_football_season)
Cal Poly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Cal_Poly_Mustangs_football_team)
2–9
1–7
T–11th





2022 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_NCAA_Division_I_FCS_football_season)
Cal Poly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Cal_Poly_Mustangs_football_team)
2–9
1–7
T–11th





Cal Poly:
4–21
2–17

[lionsrking2]

Lamar's job is open. That job is a potential gold mine if they could ever hire the right guy.

https://twitter.com/LamarFootball/status/1594722118884855808?s=20&t=XvbASit9q_jhofqyxYHu3w

[Green Cookie Monster]

Will Beau @CP be given one more year?
He has been HC for 3 season. (One being the short Covid season)




Cal Poly Mustangs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Poly_Mustangs_football) (Big Sky Conference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Sky_Conference)) (2020–Present)


2020 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_NCAA_Division_I_FCS_football_season)
Cal Poly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Cal_Poly_Mustangs_football_team)
0–3
0–3[a] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beau_Baldwin#cite_note-10)
8th





2021 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_NCAA_Division_I_FCS_football_season)
Cal Poly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Cal_Poly_Mustangs_football_team)
2–9
1–7
T–11th





2022 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_NCAA_Division_I_FCS_football_season)
Cal Poly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Cal_Poly_Mustangs_football_team)
2–9
1–7
T–11th





Cal Poly:
4–21
2–17





The CP fans think he will stick around. Three years later they are still blaming Tim Walsh for “destroying the program”. I used to believe in the give them time scenario, but with TT who immediately built a contender the following year at Sac, I now think time is just a waste. Beau has lost his magic it appears.

[Green Cookie Monster]

Lamar's job is open. That job is a potential gold mine if they could ever hire the right guy.

https://twitter.com/LamarFootball/status/1594722118884855808?s=20&t=XvbASit9q_jhofqyxYHu3w

Black gold, Texas Tea?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Rob Ambrose out at Towson. 76-76 in 13 seasons, highlighted by a 2013 FCS finals appearance.

Tigers finished 6-5 this past season.

https://towsontigers.com/news/2022/11/21/ambrose-will-not-return-as-towson-football-head-coach.aspx

Amazingly, Gordy Combs, the man Ambrose replaced at Towson, was 91-91 in his 19 seasons leading the Tigers. This means over the last 32 years Towson is exactly a .500 program between two coaches. That is a crazy stat imo....

[WestCoastAggie]

Amazingly, Gordy Combs, the man Ambrose replaced at Towson, was 91-91 in his 19 seasons leading the Tigers. This means over the last 32 years Towson is exactly a .500 program between two coaches. That is a crazy stat imo....

Two Words: Job Security

[Libertine]

In perhaps the least surprising news of the day, FootballScoop is reporting that Ed McCaffrey is out at Northern Colorado (https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-ed-mccaffrey-will-not-return-at-northern-colorado).

[Catbooster]

The CP fans think he will stick around. Three years later they are still blaming Tim Walsh for “destroying the program”. I used to believe in the give them time scenario, but with TT who immediately built a contender the following year at Sac, I now think time is just a waste. Beau has lost his magic it appears.
Yeah, but as I recall, Sac had some talent when TT took over and he didn't totally change everything. This year, Eck also got good results taking over a team with decent talent and a similar O and D to what he's running now.

Baldwin is completely changing the style of play. I think that reasonably takes a number of years. But if I were a Cal-Poly fan, I'd be nervous that I don't see much improvement. You'd like to at least be able to see that the ship is turning towards the right direction by now. I'd be inclined to give him a couple more years, but maybe that's because I don't have a dog in the fight.

I mean, look at Bobby. 5 years (so far) to return to dominance. xcoffeex

[Daytripper]

Lamar's job is open. That job is a potential gold mine if they could ever hire the right guy.

https://twitter.com/LamarFootball/status/1594722118884855808?s=20&t=XvbASit9q_jhofqyxYHu3w

You are absolutely right, but....the admin has to buy in. They try to run that place on the cheap when they don't have to.

Where is Puddin Tane??

[Leopard Loyalist]

Lafayette made announcement about not renewing Garrett's contract on the Monday after last year's loss to Lehigh. So the clock is ticking down on Gilmore. If he has one more year on his contract, that makes it a different situation, I guess. But the results on the field require some action nevertheless.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lafayette made announcement about not renewing Garrett's contract on the Monday after last year's loss to Lehigh. So the clock is ticking down on Gilmore. If he has one more year on his contract, that makes it a different situation, I guess. But the results on the field require some action nevertheless.

Gilmore is gone!!

[ColonialInsider]

Keep an eye on Bernard Clark at Robert Morris. In four full seasons u three games during the COVID created spring season of 2021, Clark is just 13-34 and just had an 0-11 season. Yes, the transition to the Big South is part of that, but this is NOT what RMU envisioned after Clark went 7-5/6-1 in the final year in the Northeast Conference.

No news yet, but RMU moves slow on this stuff sometimes. Something to watch.

[lionsrking2]

Black gold, Texas Tea?

Well, 'Black gold, Texas Tea' fits Beaumont to a 'tea.'

[Daytripper]

Coach Prime talking to Colorado and USF. https://247sports.com/Article/College-football-coaching-news-Deion-Sanders-Colorado-South-Florida-report-198224540/

[VandalBasher]

Coach Prime talking to Colorado and USF. https://247sports.com/Article/College-football-coaching-news-Deion-Sanders-Colorado-South-Florida-report-198224540/

Prime could do wonders at USF. Colorado hasn't been relevant since the early 90's.

[Southsider]

Very short statement now on LU site. Gilmore is out.

[Daytripper]

Prime could do wonders at USF. Colorado hasn't been relevant since the early 90's.

How can you not be successful in a town like Boulder?

[mvemjsunpx]

Yeah, but as I recall, Sac had some talent when TT took over and he didn't totally change everything.

Sac had a boatload of injuries during the last Jody Sears season, and a lot of those players then got hardship wavers. As a result, Taylor essentially inherited the team that went 7-4 in 2017.

[Green Cookie Monster]

How can you not be successful in a town like Boulder?

https://media2.giphy.com/media/JRPtASBa2IjyAhIBob/giphy.gif

[Daytripper]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/JRPtASBa2IjyAhIBob/giphy.gif

Exactly. If I was a potential stud recruit it would be my first choice. Babes and buds.

[Libertine]

Y'all know that weed is legal in a lot of places now, right?

[Daytripper]

Y'all know that weed is legal in a lot of places now, right?

What? I'm in Texas so I don't know anything.

[WestCoastAggie]

Coach Prime talking to Colorado and USF. https://247sports.com/Article/College-football-coaching-news-Deion-Sanders-Colorado-South-Florida-report-198224540/

Ehh... Stay at Jackson State unless Colorado is going to move to UA and really invest into their football program.

[SeattleCat]

Northern Colorado fires former Broncos WR Ed McCaffery.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/northern-colorado-fires-ed-mccaffrey-former-all-pro-wr-went-6-16-in-three-seasons-marred-by-controversy/

[MR. CHICKEN]

]Northern Colorado fires former Broncos WR Ed McCaffery.[/B]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/northern-colorado-fires-ed-mccaffrey-former-all-pro-wr-went-6-16-in-three-seasons-marred-by-controversy/


....OH GREAT.......THERE GOES...'NOTHERAH DOOR MAT....FO' CRAZY 8"S....xmadx.....BRAWK!

[Daytripper]

Houston Christian HC Vic Shealy resigns. https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2022/11/21/houston-christian-coach-vic-shealy-resigns?ref=article_preview_img

Tough place to win.

[bonarae]

Lamar lets go of Blaine Morgan, as posted in another thread.

https://footballscoop.com/news/lamar-dismisses-head-coach-blane-morgan

[Puddin Tane]

Lamar's job is open. That job is a potential gold mine if they could ever hire the right guy.

https://twitter.com/LamarFootball/status/1594722118884855808?s=20&t=XvbASit9q_jhofqyxYHu3w

hey we won the conference championship…in 1971

[Puddin Tane]

Black gold, Texas Tea?

i think all that money must get thrown behind UT, atm, or lsu

[Puddin Tane]

Houston Christian HC Vic Shealy resigns. https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2022/11/21/houston-christian-coach-vic-shealy-resigns?ref=article_preview_img

Tough place to win.

always liked ole vic. Seemed he was having to play with one hand tied behind his back

[acbearkat]

David Bailiff is out at A&M-Commerce.


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[Professor Chaos]

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1596537379862417408

Does he stay or does he go? Tough to turn down an FCS->P5 promotion but the Pac-12's status as a true P5 is in question and CU isn't exactly a Pac-12 stalwart to begin with. Does Coach Prime wait for a better offer elsewhere perhaps?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Keep a very close eye on Incarnate Word head coach GJ Kinne. Seems extremely likely he's headed to Tulsa to lead his alma mater.....

[Daytripper]

Keep a very close eye on Incarnate Word head coach GJ Kinne. Seems extremely likely he's headed to Tulsa to lead his alma mater.....

Poor UIW...a continuous stepping-stone.

[MR. CHICKEN]

.....DELAWARE STATE FIRED HEAD COACH ROD MILSTEAD......YESTERDAY.....HE WENT 17-33.....STILL HAD 1 YEAR ON CONTRACT.....xwavex.....BRAWK!

[Daytripper]

Dayton's Rick Chamberlin retires after 48 years with the program. https://footballscoop.com/news/rick-chamberlin-retires-at-dayton

[Libertine]

Dayton's Rick Chamberlin retires after 48 years with the program. https://footballscoop.com/news/rick-chamberlin-retires-at-dayton

Well, Boogs will finally be happy (https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?291032-Urban-Meyer-to-coach-at-FCS-level). There's no word yet that Urban Mayer is beating down the Flyers' door but I'm sure it's imminent.

[bonarae]

Dayton's Rick Chamberlin retires after 48 years with the program. https://footballscoop.com/news/rick-chamberlin-retires-at-dayton

The end of an era at Dayton... xcoffeex

[dewey]

Dayton's Rick Chamberlin retires after 48 years with the program. https://footballscoop.com/news/rick-chamberlin-retires-at-dayton

Wow. What an impressive career. Crazy to think how many young men coach Chamberlain got to mentor/coach and befriend.

Hats off to you coach.

Dewey

[ngineer]

Well, Boogs will finally be happy (https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?291032-Urban-Meyer-to-coach-at-FCS-level). There's no word yet that Urban Mayer is beating down the Flyers' door but I'm sure it's imminent.

Not 'another Urban Renewal Project'...xrolleyesx

[acbearkat]

Bethune-Cookman has made a coaching change.

Bethune-Cookman making change atop football program - Footballscoop (https://footballscoop.com/news/bethune-cookman-making-change-atop-football-program)

[atthewbon]

https://twitter.com/ODonnellFox13/status/1597946120331632640?s=20&t=zTpJi5cSm5injXzMIp5rcw

Deion Sanders seems to have a lot of suitors

[FUBeAR]

https://twitter.com/ODonnellFox13/status/1597946120331632640?s=20&t=zTpJi5cSm5injXzMIp5rcw

Deion Sanders seems to have a lot of suitors
https://twitter.com/ODonnellFox13/status/1597946120331632640

[Daytripper]

https://twitter.com/ODonnellFox13/status/1597946120331632640

All three of those programs have positives for Prime: Colorado is a state flagship with nowhere to go but up. Cincy is a current powerhouse. USF would a recruiting wonderland for him. I could see him taking any of the three.

[ST_Lawson]

USF would a recruiting wonderland for him.

I feel like USF is a better fit for him personality-wise. Also, he's from Florida, grew up just down the coast a bit in Fort Myers, went to Florida State. Feels like Colorado and Ohio are a bit too far from the coast for him.

[Chalupa Batman]

I feel like USF is a better fit for him personality-wise. Also, he's from Florida, grew up just down the coast a bit in Fort Myers, went to Florida State. Feels like Colorado and Ohio are a bit too far from the coast for him.

This makes sense. But I'd like to see him at Cincinnati just to see him get under the skin of the Buckeyes.

[Daytripper]

I feel like USF is a better it for him personality-wise. Also, he's from Florida, grew up just down the coast a bit in Fort Myers, went to Florida State. Feels like Colorado and Ohio are a bit too far from the coast for him.

Yes. But Cincinnati is in the Big 12. That will matter to Prime's ego. It doesn't matter where in the country you are, if Sanders walks into your living room to recruit you, it will be really hard to say no.

[aceinthehole]

Central Connecticut will not renew the contract of coach Ryan McCarthy. He did win a NEC Championship in 2019 (11-2), but then lost a season to COVID and went 6-16 in the past 2 years. He was the OC for 4 seasons prior to being named HC. He came to Central after spending many seasons at Albany.

CCSU Football Coaching Announcement - Central Connecticut State (prestosports.com) (https://ccsu.prestosports.com/sports/fball/2022-23/releases/20221130g18ez4)

[NY Crusader 2010]

Good luck to Deion. Obviously he's known for the swagger and for his ability to land top recruits, but you don't have the level of success he's had at such a short time at Jackson State without actually being a very good coach.

Wish we could've seen Jackson State actually play someone this year -- either a top 10 FCS team or a decent AAC or Sun Belt team to see how they'd have stacked up. Because we'll never know.

[Daytripper]

Good luck to Deion. Obviously he's known for the swagger and for his ability to land top recruits, but you don't have the level of success he's had at such a short time at Jackson State without actually being a very good coach.

Wish we could've seen Jackson State actually play someone this year -- either a top 10 FCS team or a decent AAC or Sun Belt team to see how they'd have stacked up. Because we'll never know.

We will soon find out how good of a coach he really is. We know he can recruit...but everybody in the P5 can recruit.

[Libertine]

Charleston Southern has hired Gabe Giardina as their new head coach. Giardina comes back to Ladson after four seasons as the HC at D2 Albany State where he went 37-17 but, prior to that he was the OC/OL coach during Jamey Chadwell's run at CSU. Prior to that, he was RB's coach at CSU under Jay Mills from 2008-2011.

https://www.postandcourier.com/sports/college/charleston-southern-hires-former-jamey-chadwell-assistant-as-new-football-coach/article_2e8410a8-70ee-11ed-bd38-2325b8e0faa4.html

This is doesn't feel like a typical Jeff Barber hire for CSU. Barber likes to make significant hires that make statements about the athletic direction of the university, hence hiring Autry Denson from Notre Dame four years ago. I don't think CSU can afford that at this point post-COVID. This, feels like CSU waking up still hungover two days after a rager and going back to the Chadwell keg to see if they can scrape anything more out of it before being forced to toss the whole thing out.


Fun possibly unrelated fact: During a game at CSU in 2013, I once heard Giardina loudly ripping into one of his O-linemen on the sideline who had whiffed his blocking assignment and asking the kid if it was because he was stupid. I was on top of the press box at the time.

[ngineer]

Charleston Southern has hired Gabe Giardina as their new head coach. Giardina comes back to Ladson after four seasons as the HC at D2 Albany State where he went 37-17 but, prior to that he was the OC/OL coach during Jamey Chadwell's run at CSU.

https://www.postandcourier.com/sports/college/charleston-southern-hires-former-jamey-chadwell-assistant-as-new-football-coach/article_2e8410a8-70ee-11ed-bd38-2325b8e0faa4.html

Fun fact: During a game at CSU in 2013, I once heard Giardina loudly ripping into one of his O-linemen on the sideline who had whiffed his blocking assignment and asking the kid if it was because he was stupid. I was on top of the press box at the time.

Sounds like a class act....

[Daytripper]

Charleston Southern has hired Gabe Giardina as their new head coach. Giardina comes back to Ladson after four seasons as the HC at D2 Albany State where he went 37-17 but, prior to that he was the OC/OL coach during Jamey Chadwell's run at CSU. Prior to that, he was RB's coach at CSU under Jay Mills from 2008-2011.

https://www.postandcourier.com/sports/college/charleston-southern-hires-former-jamey-chadwell-assistant-as-new-football-coach/article_2e8410a8-70ee-11ed-bd38-2325b8e0faa4.html

This is doesn't feel like a typical Jeff Barber hire for CSU. Barber likes to make significant hires that make statements about the athletic direction of the university, hence hiring Autry Denson from Notre Dame four years ago. I don't think CSU can afford that at this point post-COVID. This, feels like CSU waking up still hungover two days after a rager and going back to the Chadwell keg to see if they can scrape anything more out of it before being forced to toss the whole thing out.


Fun possibly unrelated fact: During a game at CSU in 2013, I once heard Giardina loudly ripping into one of his O-linemen on the sideline who had whiffed his blocking assignment and asking the kid if it was because he was stupid. I was on top of the press box at the time.

A very tough place to win. Very. That success at Chuck South, and his success at Coastal, is what made Chadwell such a coaching hot commodity and rock star. He will be coaching a P5 program shortly.

[acbearkat]

Central Connecticut State has made a head coaching change.

Central Connecticut State announces head coaching change - Footballscoop (https://footballscoop.com/news/central-connecticut-state-announces-head-coaching-change)

[SFA 93]

UIW GJ Kinne new Head Coach at TX State coach.

[Franks Tanks]

Charleston Southern has hired Gabe Giardina as their new head coach. Giardina comes back to Ladson after four seasons as the HC at D2 Albany State where he went 37-17 but, prior to that he was the OC/OL coach during Jamey Chadwell's run at CSU. Prior to that, he was RB's coach at CSU under Jay Mills from 2008-2011.

https://www.postandcourier.com/sports/college/charleston-southern-hires-former-jamey-chadwell-assistant-as-new-football-coach/article_2e8410a8-70ee-11ed-bd38-2325b8e0faa4.html

This is doesn't feel like a typical Jeff Barber hire for CSU. Barber likes to make significant hires that make statements about the athletic direction of the university, hence hiring Autry Denson from Notre Dame four years ago. I don't think CSU can afford that at this point post-COVID. This, feels like CSU waking up still hungover two days after a rager and going back to the Chadwell keg to see if they can scrape anything more out of it before being forced to toss the whole thing out.


Fun possibly unrelated fact: During a game at CSU in 2013, I once heard Giardina loudly ripping into one of his O-linemen on the sideline who had whiffed his blocking assignment and asking the kid if it was because he was stupid. I was on top of the press box at the time.

Getting called stupid by an oline coach is a relief. The kid must’ve been one of his favorites.

[Libertine]

Getting called stupid by an oline coach is a relief. The kid must’ve been one of his favorites.

I'll never forget the look on #62's face. I'm sure he felt like somebody's favorite just then.

[acbearkat]

UIW GJ Kinne new Head Coach at TX State coach.




I was going to post that last night, but I can't post via the Tapatalk app right now, but here's the link to the FootballScoop article:

Sources: GJ Kinne expected to be head coach at Texas State - Footballscoop (https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-gj-kinne-expected-to-be-head-coach-at-texas-state)

[Daytripper]

Cal Poly's Baldwin going to Arizona State as OC: https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-cal-poly-head-coach-to-be-arizona-state-offensive-coordinator-beau-baldwin

[caribbeanhen]

Cal Poly's Baldwin going to Arizona State as OC: https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-cal-poly-head-coach-to-be-arizona-state-offensive-coordinator-beau-baldwin

has Cal Poly been any good since the ditched the option?

[Catbooster]

has Cal Poly been any good since the ditched the option?
Pretty sure that Baldwin was the one who ditched the option...

[mvemjsunpx]

has Cal Poly been any good since the ditched the option?

No, but they weren't any good the last 3 years they ran the option either.

[uofmman1122]

Primetime is over at Jackson State.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35176614/colorado-buffaloes-name-deion-sanders-head-coach

[bonarae]

Primetime is over at Jackson State.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35176614/colorado-buffaloes-name-deion-sanders-head-coach

xsighx

[Daytripper]

Primetime is over at Jackson State.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35176614/colorado-buffaloes-name-deion-sanders-head-coach

This will be a really interesting team to follow. Boom or bust for the Buffaloes.

[uofmman1122]

Over/under on Jackson State players jumping to CU?

You HAVE to figure Prime's son and those two 4-5 star guys will go, too, right?

[dewey]

Over/under on Jackson State players jumping to CU?

You HAVE to figure Prime's son and those two 4-5 star guys will go, too, right?

Absolutely! It will be interesting to see how many go to Boulder.

Dewey

[Professor Chaos]

Absolutely! It will be interesting to see how many go to Boulder.

Dewey
NDSU plays there in 2024... that game just got more interesting. :)

[uofmman1122]

NDSU plays there in 2024... that game just got more interesting. :)
They're very likely to be hot garbage next year, but if Prime works his recruiting magic and lands a bunch of 5-stars, it could be a different team in 2024.

[Cocky]

Deion will have a good chance of collecting many portal talents.

Wonder which conference he was told Colorado will be a member of in the future?

Colorado has been and is so low the gamble is easy to take. Even if Deion fails the university will be back in the media.

[Daytripper]

SLU head coach Frank Scelfo in talks to move across conference to Lamar. Wow. Lamar finally acting like they care about football. https://footballscoop.com/news/lamar-pursuing-southeastern-louisiana-head-coach-frank-scelfo

[caribbeanhen]

SLU head coach Frank Scelfo in talks to move across conference to Lamar. Wow. Lamar finally acting like they care about football. https://footballscoop.com/news/lamar-pursuing-southeastern-louisiana-head-coach-frank-scelfo

why in the world would he want to do that?

[katss07]

why in the world would he want to do that?
Because Lamar is rich

[Daytripper]

Because Lamar is rich

This. They have the money. They have just chosen not to spend it on athletics, specifically football.

[caribbeanhen]

This. They have the money. They have just chosen not to spend it on athletics, specifically football.

Thats interesting, so are they having a change in philosophy now

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

This. They have the money. They have just chosen not to spend it on athletics, specifically football.


Hotbed of football in TX and Lamar "chooses" to not invest in football? Seems hard to believe but must be true.

I spent many winters in Kountze, TX just north of Beaumont and wondered why they couldn't put a decent product on the field.

[MR. CHICKEN]

This. They have the money. They have just chosen not to spend it on athletics, specifically football.


......WHAA SPEND BOATLOADS.......WHEN OWN-LAH....ONE TEAM.......ENDS UP BLINGED..............ANYWHO............AWK!

[Daytripper]

Thats interesting, so are they having a change in philosophy now

That is my guess. Maybe Puddin Tane has more insight.

[uofmman1122]

Absolutely ****ing wild to me that Deion introduced Shedeur to the Colorado team as their next QB while they both still have a game to play at Jackson State.

I mean, it makes sense because of course he's gonna follow his dad there, but also just wild.

[Retro]

Colorado should still be in pac12. Deion may recruit some good players, but coaching them is a whole different level. He succeeded in the worst DI and FCS scholarship conference without any big wins OOC. He’s not gonna magically get a bunch of 5 star players over proven coaches and schools like Utah, usc etc and not everyone likes Deion. The kids today weren’t even alive when he played.

[FUBeAR]

Absolutely ****ing wild to me that Deion introduced Shedeur to the Colorado team as their next QB while they both still have a game to play at Jackson State.

I mean, it makes sense because of course he's gonna follow his dad there, but also just wild.
Reckon we can find all these names in the portal tomorrow, if not already?

https://dbukjj6eu5tsf.cloudfront.net/sidearm.sites/cubuffs.com/images/responsive_2021/logo_nav_main.svg (https://cubuffs.com/index.aspx)2022 Football Roster


#
NAME
POS.
HT.
WT.
YR.
HOMETOWN / HIGH SCHOOL
PREVIOUS SCHOOL
TWITTER
INSTAGRAM






5
J.T. Shrout (https://cubuffs.com/sports/football/roster/j-t-shrout/15829)
QB
6-3
210
So.
Santa Clarita, Calif. / Hart
Tennessee




7
Owen McCown (https://cubuffs.com/sports/football/roster/owen-mccown/15980)
QB
6-2
175
Fr.
Rusk, Texas. / Rusk





9
Drew Carter (https://cubuffs.com/sports/football/roster/drew-carter/15765)
QB
6-3
195
So.
Tigard, Ore. / Tigard

drew_503 (https://twitter.com/drew_503)
dcsmooth_ (https://www.instagram.com/dcsmooth_)


14
Maddox Kopp (https://cubuffs.com/sports/football/roster/maddox-kopp/15874)
QB
6-5
210
Fr.
Houston, Texas / St. Thomas
Houston




16
Colton Allen (https://cubuffs.com/sports/football/roster/colton-allen/15989)
QB
6-3
200
Fr.
Highlands Ranch, Colo. / Valor Christian





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[ST_Lawson]

Colorado should still be in pac12.

I thought they were still in the PAC12...their website and wikipedia both say they are. Or did you intend that differently?



Deion may recruit some good players, but coaching them is a whole different level. He succeeded in the worst DI and FCS scholarship conference without any big wins OOC. He’s not gonna magically get a bunch of 5 star players over proven coaches and schools like Utah, usc etc and not everyone likes Deion. The kids today weren’t even alive when he played.

Yeah, I don't doubt his ability to recruit. He did get a 5-star to come to the FCS. Coaching against P5 FBS-level coaching staffs is a whole different ball game though.
If the goal was to get people talking about Colorado football though...a team that won 1 game last year and has only had 1 winning season in the last 15 years...mission accomplished.

[Professor]

Reckon we can find all these names in the portal tomorrow, if not already?

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NAME
POS.
HT.
WT.
YR.
HOMETOWN / HIGH SCHOOL
PREVIOUS SCHOOL
TWITTER
INSTAGRAM






5
J.T. Shrout (https://cubuffs.com/sports/football/roster/j-t-shrout/15829)
QB
6-3
210
So.
Santa Clarita, Calif. / Hart
Tennessee




7
Owen McCown (https://cubuffs.com/sports/football/roster/owen-mccown/15980)
QB
6-2
175
Fr.
Rusk, Texas. / Rusk





9
Drew Carter (https://cubuffs.com/sports/football/roster/drew-carter/15765)
QB
6-3
195
So.
Tigard, Ore. / Tigard

drew_503 (https://twitter.com/drew_503)
dcsmooth_ (https://www.instagram.com/dcsmooth_)


14
Maddox Kopp (https://cubuffs.com/sports/football/roster/maddox-kopp/15874)
QB
6-5
210
Fr.
Houston, Texas / St. Thomas
Houston




16
Colton Allen (https://cubuffs.com/sports/football/roster/colton-allen/15989)
QB
6-3
200
Fr.
Highlands Ranch, Colo. / Valor Christian





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#7 McCowen already is. I believe the rest will stay. Sheduer will be a Jr in the fall

- - - Updated - - -


Colorado should still be in pac12. Deion may recruit some good players, but coaching them is a whole different level. He succeeded in the worst DI and FCS scholarship conference without any big wins OOC. He’s not gonna magically get a bunch of 5 star players over proven coaches and schools like Utah, usc etc and not everyone likes Deion. The kids today weren’t even alive when he played.

Lol ok. USC just went from worst to the Pac 12 game. Colorado will be bowl eligible next year

[FUBeAR]

#7 McCowen already is. I believe the rest will stay. Sheduer will be a Jr in the fall
So, college QB’s are gonna bide their time, stand in line, and wait their turn (even if it is only 1 or 2 years) knowing they have no hope of unseating the Starter?

Not the College Football environment FUBeAR has been watching for the past decade or so.

[POD Knows]

Absolutely ****ing wild to me that Deion introduced Shedeur to the Colorado team as their next QB while they both still have a game to play at Jackson State.

I mean, it makes sense because of course he's gonna follow his dad there, but also just wild.His speech to the players at Colorado is classic. There is gonna be big turnover on that team in the near term is my guess.

[Libertine]

# believe the rest will stay.
No, they won't. Deion basically told the bulk of the current CU players (in general not specific individuals) to go ahead and jump in the portal.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2022/12/05/deion-sanders-brings-tension-first-meeting-colorado-head-coach/10837178002/

[NY Crusader 2010]

Colorado should still be in pac12. Deion may recruit some good players, but coaching them is a whole different level. He succeeded in the worst DI and FCS scholarship conference without any big wins OOC. He’s not gonna magically get a bunch of 5 star players over proven coaches and schools like Utah, usc etc and not everyone likes Deion. The kids today weren’t even alive when he played.

I do think Deion has some cred that goes beyond being a great recruiter at an FCS program. The level of dominance that Jackson State showed within their group of opponents makes it pretty obvious the bar was raised there substantially in a short period of time. The X's and O's are there IMO -- the man can not only recruit but also coach those recruits. Even at the FCS level you don't go from middle of the pack in your league to champs overnight just by bringing in a handful of 4 stars. JSU was not really even competing for SWAC titles before he got there, the only "championships" they were winning were in attendance.

He'll meet his match for sure in the Pac 12 (or whatever league Colorado ends up in) but I'm going to predict he brings them into the Top 25 within two years. Bold, but I see it happening.

Like Chesney at Holy Cross, he "gets" the current generation of HS and collegiate athletes.

[NY Crusader 2010]

No, they won't. Deion basically told the bulk of the current CU players (in general not specific individuals) to go ahead and jump in the portal.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2022/12/05/deion-sanders-brings-tension-first-meeting-colorado-head-coach/10837178002/

Great speech. Well done, Deion. He's going to win.

"I want my players focused on the NFL, not NIL"

[ST_Lawson]

No, they won't. Deion basically told the bulk of the current CU players (in general not specific individuals) to go ahead and jump in the portal.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2022/12/05/deion-sanders-brings-tension-first-meeting-colorado-head-coach/10837178002/

He said the ones who don't want to work can go ahead and leave...which is valid. If players aren't willing to really work to get better, then what are they even doing there?

[Libertine]

Looks like Cal Poly is promoting from within to fill their head coaching vacancy. Former Eastern Washington and Washington State head coach Paul Wullf, currently the associate head coach at Cal Poly, is expected to be named to the job on Tuesday.

https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-cal-poly-to-promote-paul-wulff-to-head-coach

[Franks Tanks]

Fordham losing OC and OL coach to ODU.

Old Dominion: Kevin Decker has been hired as the Monarchs’ new offensive coordinator and Alex Huettel as offensive line coach. Both come from Fordham.

ODU’s HC, Ricky Rahne, is a former Cornell QB and worked with Joe Mo at PSU.

[Puddin Tane]

That is my guess. Maybe Puddin Tane has more insight.

we’re a womens soccer school!

[Bisonator]

Great speech. Well done, Deion. He's going to win.

"I want my players focused on the NFL, not NIL"
We'll see, gonna be a lot harder to win at CU then Jackson State. Not really sure what to think of him as a coach but his bravado and media **** rubs me the wrong way. Guess I'm too old for this new age BS. I wouldn't want to play for him that's for sure.

[Professor]

So, college QB’s are gonna bide their time, stand in line, and wait their turn (even if it is only 1 or 2 years) knowing they have no hope of unseating the Starter?

Not the College Football environment FUBeAR has been watching for the past decade or so.

We shall see. But there will have to be a backup. In 2 years , Sheduer will be gone. Will still be plenty of talent

[Professor]

I do think Deion has some cred that goes beyond being a great recruiter at an FCS program. The level of dominance that Jackson State showed within their group of opponents makes it pretty obvious the bar was raised there substantially in a short period of time. The X's and O's are there IMO -- the man can not only recruit but also coach those recruits. Even at the FCS level you don't go from middle of the pack in your league to champs overnight just by bringing in a handful of 4 stars. JSU was not really even competing for SWAC titles before he got there, the only "championships" they were winning were in attendance.

He'll meet his match for sure in the Pac 12 (or whatever league Colorado ends up in) but I'm going to predict he brings them into the Top 25 within two years. Bold, but I see it happening.

Like Chesney at Holy Cross, he "gets" the current generation of HS and collegiate athletes.

Exactly. Over 200 recruits have reached out. Its been like 3 days

https://coloradobuffaloeswire.usatoday.com/2022/12/05/recruits-transfer-players-cu-deion-sanders-hire/

[FUBeAR]

We shall see. But there will have to be a backup. In 2 years , Sheduer will be gone. Will still be plenty of talent
Well, FUBeAR did see that Coach Prime was smart enough to add a Furman Alum to his staff already. In the full video of his intro speech, he introduces “Coach Kelly” and they share a hug. That’s David Kelly, former Paladin RB, WR, & DB…and 1 of FUBeAR’s 2 hosts on his Official Visit to Furman so many, many years ago. Coach Kelly has been EVERYWHERE since his Grad Asst Coaching stint at Furman in 1979. 40+ years of experience, mostly in D1 P5. He will be able to provide wise counsel as the new Head Coach transitions from the SWAC to the PAC12.

[ElCid]

Well, this is just weird. Rumor mill says that former Tennessee head coach and current Alabama senior offensive analyst, Derek Dooley is currently lobbying to be The Citadel Head Coach. He turned around La Tech to a degree, then had a dismal record at Tenn, but he got a team in shambles. He has done some good things as a position coach and coordinator. Not sure how we can meet his expected salary, but he probably wants a head coach gig to try one more time before he gets too old. He may not care about the money. But I would hate to have another coach do a hit and run like Houston did. May be wanting to retire in Charleston.

In any event, it's a little bizarre.

[crusader11]

Fordham losing OC and OL coach to ODU.

Old Dominion: Kevin Decker has been hired as the Monarchs’ new offensive coordinator and Alex Huettel as offensive line coach. Both come from Fordham.

ODU’s HC, Ricky Rahne, is a former Cornell QB and worked with Joe Mo at PSU.

I had posted in another thread (I think) that Decker would have been a great candidate for the Lehigh job...but something tells me he may not have been interested in it. He'll be making more money as the OC at ODU compared to head coach at a PL school, and has a better path to an FBS head job one day.

[Libertine]

Northern Colorado is hiring ex-Southern Utah boss Ed Lamb as the Bears next head coach. He's been at BYU for the last seven years.

[Chalupa Batman]

Whoa! Weber State gig is open

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1600348084751384576

[Retro]

#7 McCowen already is. I believe the rest will stay. Sheduer will be a Jr in the fall

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Lol ok. USC just went from worst to the Pac 12 game. Colorado will be bowl eligible next year

yeah, they brought in a proven top 5 FBS winning coach and 2 of the biggest proven transfers to a school that is a traditional Power and still recruits well despite lackluster success recently. Deion is a glory hound, and turned around a team in the worst FCS conference. JSU never beat a decent fcs team. I give it 2 years before he’s gone after maybe 5 wins.

[Karl Havoc]

Whoa! Weber State gig is open

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1600348084751384576

It is a sad day for Wildcat fans.

[SeattleCat]

It is a sad day for Wildcat fans.

9 years is a long time to have a coach as successful as Hill was, now you just gotta hope the U opens the purse strings so you guys can land another good one.

[Professor Chaos]

I would think a typical coaching progression would be BYU DC to Weber St HC not the other way around. Maybe he feels like BYU's current HC is on the move soon giving him a chance to take over there or follow to somewhere bigger and better.

Or maybe they just offered to double/triple his annual salary.

[ST_Lawson]

Or maybe they just offered to double/triple his annual salary.

With them joining the Big 12, probably that. They won't be getting Big 10 or SEC TV money, but Big 12 money is probably more than Independent TV money. BYU is estimated to be getting between $8 and $14 million for their independent TV deal, and should be around $50 million when they join the Big 12 for TV, bowl games, NCAA tournament payouts, etc.
It's less responsibility, but I'd bet it's WAY more money.

According to an article I found regarding Weber State's Jay Hill from February 2021:

His last contract increased his base salary to $185,000, according to public records at the time, in addition to a $90,000 annual base for a rate of $275,000 that made him the highest-paid coach in the Big Sky Conference at the time.

Meanwhile, it looks like coordinators at the Big 12 level are making anywhere from around $600k to just over $1mil per year. If he's getting the middle of that range (~$800k), that's just under a 3x increase.

[Karl Havoc]

I would think a typical coaching progression would be BYU DC to Weber St HC not the other way around. Maybe he feels like BYU's current HC is on the move soon giving him a chance to take over there or follow to somewhere bigger and better.

Or maybe they just offered to double/triple his annual salary.

He will go from making $290k to $1M. I also think it will give him a much better chance at to get a Power 5 HC jog down the line. He was getting a lot of looks for jobs 2-3 years ago but nothing materialized and I think he was falling off the radar a bit.

[ST_Lawson]

He will go from making $290k to $1M. I also think it will give him a much better chance at to get a Power 5 HC jog down the line. He was getting a lot of looks for jobs 2-3 years ago but nothing materialized and I think he was falling off the radar a bit.

I've heard elsewhere that the "long term plan" is for him to take over for Kyle Whittingham (currently 63) as HC at Utah when he retires. Whittingham has been coaching at Utah since 1994 and HC since 2005. Hill played at Utah in '98-'99, coached at Utah at various positions from '01-'13 before taking over the HC job at Weber State in 2014. Getting a few years of coordinator experience at the P5 level is probably the final thing he'd need on his resume to be in line to take over at Utah. And to have that P5 experience be literally just down the road at BYU (depending on where he lives, might not even need to move/uproot his family) is just about the ideal scenario for him.

[Daytripper]

Arena League player and coach, and TAMU Commerce alum Clint Dolezel to be new head coach at his alma mater. First time coaching 11-man football. https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-texas-a-m-commerce-to-arena-football-legend-as-head-coach-clint-dolezel

[Libertine]

...Clint Dolezel to be new head coach at his alma mater. First time coaching 11-man football.

xeyebrowx

[acbearkat]

Arena League player and coach, and TAMU Commerce alum Clint Dolezel to be new head coach at his alma mater. First time coaching 11-man football. https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-texas-a-m-commerce-to-arena-football-legend-as-head-coach-clint-dolezel

That's a questionable hire to say the least.

[Puddin Tane]

That's a questionable hire to say the least.


i like it! Thinking outside the box!

[SpreadTheWord]

i like it! Thinking outside the box!

lol the other Southland schools sure love it!

[Libertine]

If I were a TAMU-C fan, I'd be less concerned about the on-field differences because, at its core, football is football and the size of the field and number of players on it is a matter of tactical detail, not program philosophy. However, I'd be far more concerned about Dolezel's experience with managing a full college roster -- AFL and IFL rosters are limited to 20 players -- as well as recruiting and then managing four-year college kids vs. semi-pro adults who are actively trying to prove their ability in the short-term. I expect that his first few recruiting classes are going to have a LOT of juco guys in them.

[Daytripper]

According to footballscoop.com, Sac State's Troy Taylor is one of the finalists for the Stanford job. That's a big jump. https://footballscoop.com/news/an-update-on-stanfords-search

[ST_Lawson]

Coach Vincent Dancy at Mississippi Valley State is leaving to join Deion Sanders staff at Colorado
https://www.si.com/college/hbcu/football/coach-vincent-dancy-resigns-joins-deion-sanders-at-colorado

[dbackjon]

According to footballscoop.com, Sac State's Troy Taylor is one of the finalists for the Stanford job. That's a big jump. https://footballscoop.com/news/an-update-on-stanfords-search

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1600919734442397696

[ngineer]

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1600919734442397696

Sure it 's not Lafayette's old Garrett??xsmiley_wix

[uofmman1122]

Garrett dropped out. Sounding like Taylor might be the guy at Stanford.

https://twitter.com/jasongarrett/status/1601072644224270336

[SeattleCat]

Garrett dropped out. Sounding like Taylor might be the guy at Stanford.

https://twitter.com/jasongarrett/status/1601072644224270336

Wow good for him... really really bad for Sac.

[uofmman1122]

Wow good for him... really really bad for Sac.
Amazing for him. You don't see that kind of upward mobility often, although their most successful coach of all time went from FCS to them, so maybe they're trying to recapture that magic.

As for Sac State, it depends how much of his staff he takes with him. If it's all/most of it, I think it's back to the Big Sky cellar for Sac after long.

Kind of related, if by some miracle Vigen gets poached after this season, this and Hill leaving might be the best thing that could have ever happened for Bobby and the Griz. xlolx

[SpreadTheWord]

UIW and Sac State dealing with coaching changes during a playoff run right now...

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[Franks Tanks]

Garrett dropped out. Sounding like Taylor might be the guy at Stanford.

https://twitter.com/jasongarrett/status/1601072644224270336
Good decision by Stanford. These older NFL guys almost always fail (except for Pete Carroll).

[SeattleCat]

Amazing for him. You don't see that kind of upward mobility often, although their most successful coach of all time went from FCS to them, so maybe they're trying to recapture that magic.

As for Sac State, it depends how much of his staff he takes with him. If it's all/most of it, I think it's back to the Big Sky cellar for Sac after long.

Kind of related, if by some miracle Vigen gets poached after this season, this and Hill leaving might be the best thing that could have ever happened for Bobby and the Griz. xlolx

If we somehow win the Natty I think I would almost expect Vigen to move on, he's a great coach and we're just a stepping stone. When we do lose Vigen, I think it will be in the best interest for both Montana and Montana State to start seriously pursuing moving up. If we want to stay relevant we need the money to just fricken keep decent coaches with the cost of living in MT now.

[uofmman1122]

If we somehow win the Natty I think I would almost expect Vigen to move on, he's a great coach and we're just a stepping stone. When we do lose Vigen, I think it will be in the best interest for both Montana and Montana State to start seriously pursuing moving up. If we want to stay relevant we need the money to just fricken keep decent coaches with the cost of living in MT now.
Move up where? Neither school has a shot at the MWC, and that new WAC conference looks like a sinking ship.

I'd love for the top of the Big Sky/MVFC to move up together, but that sounds like a pipe dream.

I'm still not convinced we aren't far away from the P5 completely breaking away from the NCAA, so thinking about where we fit in the current landscape might become a moot exercise.

Anyways, I would hate for Vigen to move on after this year for one reason, simply because we wouldn't have any chance for redemption next year, like we lost when Choate left.

[wapiti]

Move up where? Neither school has a shot at the MWC, and that new WAC conference looks like a sinking ship.

I'd love for the top of the Big Sky/MVFC to move up together, but that sounds like a pipe dream.

I'm still not convinced we aren't far away from the P5 completely breaking away from the NCAA, so thinking about where we fit in the current landscape might become a moot exercise.

Anyways, I would hate for Vigen to move on after this year for one reason, simply because we wouldn't have any chance for redemption next year, like we lost when Choate left.

If the PAC 12 raids the MWC then who is MWC going to raid? MSU and UM are 2 of the better options for the MWC.

[SeattleCat]

Move up where? Neither school has a shot at the MWC, and that new WAC conference looks like a sinking ship.

I'd love for the top of the Big Sky/MVFC to move up together, but that sounds like a pipe dream.

I'm still not convinced we aren't far away from the P5 completely breaking away from the NCAA, so thinking about where we fit in the current landscape might become a moot exercise.

Anyways, I would hate for Vigen to move on after this year for one reason, simply because we wouldn't have any chance for redemption next year, like we lost when Choate left.

Move up anywhere to stay relevant. I think when all the dust settles there should be a home and I think we have to take it or fade away.

[uofmman1122]

If the PAC 12 raids the MWC then who is MWC going to raid? MSU and UM are 2 of the better options for the MWC.

I think the MWC would consider NMSU, UTEP, UTSA, or North Texas before they would want UM and MUS (they'd have to take both).


Move up anywhere to stay relevant. I think when all the dust settles there should be a home and I think we have to take it or fade away.

My hunch is that there won't be a "move up" scenario. The top of FCS and G5 are more likely to be forced to form their own league after the P5 breaks away. Thinking about in terms of how things are right now, where G5 is a level above, might not make sense anymore. Everything could fundamentally change.

[wapiti]

I think the MWC would consider NMSU, UTEP, UTSA, or North Texas before they would want UM and MUS (they'd have to take both).


I'm sure if MSU got invited they would bring little bro along.

[uofmman1122]

I'm sure if MSU got invited they would bring little bro along.
Well, if they only wanted one, then neither are going.

[BlueGoldAg]

UC Davis Offensive Coordinator, Cody Hawkins, has been named the new Head Coach at Idaho State. Hawkins is the son of Aggie Head Coach Dan Hawkins. This should make for an interesting father-son battle when Idaho State plays at Davis next year on November 11, 2023. Hawkins guided the Aggies to the 4th best offensive team in the nation this year with an average of 486.5 yards per game against the toughest schedule in Aggie history.

https://ucdavisaggies.com/news/2022/12/9/cody-hawkins-named-idaho-state-head-football-coach.aspx

[uofmman1122]

It's official.

Troy Taylor to Stanford.

https://twitter.com/bmarcello/status/1601641748660654081

[JALMOND]

UC Davis Offensive Coordinator, Cody Hawkins, has been named the new Head Coach at Idaho State. Hawkins is the son of Aggie Head Coach Dan Hawkins. This should make for an interesting father-son battle when Idaho State plays at Davis next year on November 11, 2023. Hawkins guided the Aggies to the 4th best offensive team in the nation this year with an average of 486.5 yards per game against the toughest schedule in Aggie history.

https://ucdavisaggies.com/news/2022/12/9/cody-hawkins-named-idaho-state-head-football-coach.aspx


Portland State head coach Bruce Barnum was the other finalist. Vik fans can never catch a break.

[Libertine]

Portland State head coach Bruce Barnum was the other finalist. Vik fans can never catch a break.

xlolx I see what you did there.

[SFA 93]

Lamar (FCS - TX): Pete Rossomando, who served as the offensive line coach before becoming the interim head coach at Charlotte this past season, has been named the new head coach at Lamar.

Was head coach at New Haven (2008-2013) and later Central Connecticut (2014-2018).

Interim HC at Charlotte 2-2-0 (2022)

Record as Head Coach 67-49-0
Playoff Record 1-3-0
3 Northeast 10 Championships (2010-2012)
1 Northeast Championship (2017)

Liberty Mutual Coach of the Year (2012)

[ngineer]

Lamar (FCS - TX): Pete Rossomando, who served as the offensive line coach before becoming the interim head coach at Charlotte this past season, has been named the new head coach at Lamar.

Was head coach at New Haven (2008-2013) and later Central Connecticut (2014-2018).

Interim HC at Charlotte 2-2-0 (2022)

Record as Head Coach 67-49-0
Playoff Record 1-3-0
3 Northeast 10 Championships (2010-2012)
1 Northeast Championship (2017)

Liberty Mutual Coach of the Year (2012)

Lamar got a good coach. He elevated Central Connecticut State the years he was there. Reportedly, he was a finalist in the interviews at Lehigh back in 2018.

[ngineer]

Okay, now that Holy Cross is eliminated, What is the over/under on how many days until it is announced that Chesney is leaving Holy Cross to climb further up the coaching chain? A lot of speculation that he would be headed to Syracuse circulated a few weeks ago...Not sure as a coordinator or HC. Meanwhile , Lehigh fans are hoping for an early Christmas present.

[fillfittonfield]

Okay, now that Holy Cross is eliminated, What is the over/under on how many days until it is announced that Chesney is leaving Holy Cross to climb further up the coaching chain? A lot of speculation that he would be headed to Syracuse circulated a few weeks ago...Not sure as a coordinator or HC. Meanwhile , Lehigh fans are hoping for an early Christmas present.

Don’t think he’s going anywhere for at least one more year. Just my gut feeling.

Any update on the the Lehigh search? Feel like I haven’t heard any updates on you guys over the last few weeks. Do you have a favorite?

[FUBeAR]

Don’t think he’s going anywhere for at least one more year. Just my gut feeling.
yeah…he probably wouldn’t have time for an FBS HC gig while he’s still trying to figure out how to move the ball vs. the Russkies.

https://www.bostonherald.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/holy-cross-cc02.jpg?w=274
https://thejewishnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Zelensky-2.jpg

[Libertine]

Towson is reportedly hiring Pete Shinnick from D2 West Florida. Shinnick started the UWF program in 2016 and won the D2 national championship just three years later. He also founded the UNC-Pembroke program from scratch in 2005.

[Libertine]

UT-RGV is reportedly hiring Travis Bush from Canyon High School in New Braunfels, TX. Prior to moving to the high school ranks in 2016, Bush served as an assistant coach at multiple D1 stops all over Texas, including being the OC at Houston for three years.

[crusader11]

yeah…he probably wouldn’t have time for an FBS HC gig while he’s still trying to figure out how to move the ball vs. the Russkies.

https://www.bostonherald.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/holy-cross-cc02.jpg?w=274
https://thejewishnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/Zelensky-2.jpg

Don’t disrespect Chesney like that. He’s much better looking than the Ukrainian guy.

HC should be even better next year, so I don’t think Chesney will be moving this year, unless a very attractive job were to fall into his lap.

Navy is now looking for a coach, which is one opening I was hoping wouldn’t happen this cycle.

[Professor Chaos]

Okay, now that Holy Cross is eliminated, What is the over/under on how many days until it is announced that Chesney is leaving Holy Cross to climb further up the coaching chain? A lot of speculation that he would be headed to Syracuse circulated a few weeks ago...Not sure as a coordinator or HC. Meanwhile , Lehigh fans are hoping for an early Christmas present.
Syracuse still hasn't hired anyone yet? Usually FBS schools, especially the P5 ones, want to have a new coach with as much time as possible before the early singing period (which starts on Wednesday 12/21 this year) since that's when most FBS caliber recruits sign their LOIs. Both times that NDSU has gotten a coach poached it was around the 2nd round of the FCS playoffs so I'd think the chances of Chesney leaving are less now than they would've been a week or two ago... most FBS teams don't give two ****s if the coach they're courting is coaching in the FCS playoffs so they won't wait around.

[caribbeanhen]

Don’t disrespect Chesney like that. He’s much better looking than the Ukrainian guy.

HC should be even better next year, so I don’t think Chesney will be moving this year, unless a very attractive job were to fall into his lap.

Navy is now looking for a coach, which is one opening I was hoping wouldn’t happen this cycle.

its the Ukraine girls that really knock me out

Ukraine guys need not apply

[Franks Tanks]

Okay, now that Holy Cross is eliminated, What is the over/under on how many days until it is announced that Chesney is leaving Holy Cross to climb further up the coaching chain? A lot of speculation that he would be headed to Syracuse circulated a few weeks ago...Not sure as a coordinator or HC. Meanwhile , Lehigh fans are hoping for an early Christmas present.

Where’s he gonna go? Purdue, North Texas and Navy are the only open jobs in FBS, unless of course a sitting head coach takes one of those jobs.

[Franks Tanks]

Syracuse still hasn't hired anyone yet? Usually FBS schools, especially the P5 ones, want to have a new coach with as much time as possible before the early singing period (which starts on Wednesday 12/21 this year) since that's when most FBS caliber recruits sign their LOIs. Both times that NDSU has gotten a coach poached it was around the 2nd round of the FCS playoffs so I'd think the chances of Chesney leaving are less now than they would've been a week or two ago... most FBS teams don't give two ****s if the coach they're courting is coaching in the FCS playoffs so they won't wait around.
Dino Babers is the Head Coach at Syracuse. Agree, if something was happening, they don’t give a rip if Holy Cross was still playing and they certainly would’ve fired Babers.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Dino Babers is the Head Coach at Syracuse. Agree, if something was happening, they don’t give a rip if Holy Cross was still playing and they certainly would’ve fired Babers.

Syracuse snuck past Boston College in the season finale to avoid ending the regular season on a 6 game losing streak. Even so, it would not come as a total shock should Babers "opt" to leave for a NFL OC gig or even Purdue. The Orange have already lost both their OC and DC in recent days. Keep an eye on the 'Cuse....

[ngineer]

Where’s he gonna go? Purdue, North Texas and Navy are the only open jobs in FBS, unless of course a sitting head coach takes one of those jobs.

I did say, "as a coordinator or HC"...Agree, if he is going to be hired as an HC it would be by tomorrow.

[Franks Tanks]

I did say, "as a coordinator or HC"...Agree, if he is going to be hired as an HC it would be by tomorrow.

Gotcha, and would make sense. Navy would be a possibility it seems. Navy was paying Ken 2 million and with them now being in the AAC, that’s a pretty attractive job.

Any news at all over at Lehigh?

[crusader11]

Chesney isn't leaving HC to become a coordinator somewhere.

[caribbeanhen]

Chesney isn't leaving HC to become a coordinator somewhere.

truth

[Daytripper]

Chesney isn't leaving HC to become a coordinator somewhere.

You do realize he can possibly make 5 -7 times more money as a P5 coordinator than he is making at Holy Cross?

[Libertine]

Dayton is hiring Western Michigan LB's coach Trevor Andrews as the their next head coach. Andrews played safety for the Flyers back in the day.

- - - Updated - - -

Houston Christian is hiring Campbell associate head coach Braxton Harris as their new head coach.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

You do realize he can possibly make 5 -7 times more money as a P5 coordinator than he is making at Holy Cross?

I agree, although I think it would have to be a really good opportunity; ND or Michigan DC? If he was an offensive guy I would say kick Tommy Reese to the curb and hire Chesney as the OC. One could argue Chesney would still be a significant upgrade. Otherwise, I think Chesney stays the course until the right FBS head gig opens. Syracuse would be pretty attractive imo...

[crusader11]

You do realize he can possibly make 5 -7 times more money as a P5 coordinator than he is making at Holy Cross?

Few things...

1) He's run his own program for the past 13 seasons. Simply don't see him taking a backseat and no longer being "the guy" at his next destination.

2) Don't believe he wants to hitch his wagon to another coach. What happens if that coach at XYZ P5 schools flames out? He doesn't want to then be forced into his next job just to stay employed.

3) From what I have gathered about Chesney, he'd actually struggle stepping into the role of coordinator. He's very, very good about allowing his OC and DC run those sides of the program. Where Chesney makes his mark is as a program builder, culture changer, hiring the best people for their roles on staff, recruiter, and motivator. Going the coordinator route is not going to be his path to the big time.

4) Not all about the money to him (although obviously big dollars talk). His family have been in the Worcester area since 2013 and this is where he has raised his kids. I'm not saying he won't leave at some point, but it has to be a very good situation for him.

5) HC figures to be even better next year. As he's developing his own personal brand, 2023 would be the time to leave. There's going to be even more buzz going into next season and during the season around HC and Chesney than there was this year. They also play more of a national schedule next season (Army and BC), so if HC knocks off one of those teams, wins the PL for the fifth straight time, and advances deeper into the FCS playoffs, he's going to have better options.

In summation, some coaches might immediately jump at a Group of Five head coaching job or P5 job just to take the money and continue the escalate the coaching ladder, but that's not Chesney.

[ElCid]

Rumor mill is churning. Seems we are hiring former player and DC Maurice Drayton, who left us for pros in various capacities when he didn't get the nod last time. Not official yet. Not unexpected.

[Catbooster]

Few things...

1) He's run his own program for the past 13 seasons. Simply don't see him taking a backseat and no longer being "the guy" at his next destination.

2) Don't believe he wants to hitch his wagon to another coach. What happens if that coach at XYZ P5 schools flames out? He doesn't want to then be forced into his next job just to stay employed.

3) From what I have gathered about Chesney, he'd actually struggle stepping into the role of coordinator. He's very, very good about allowing his OC and DC run those sides of the program. Where Chesney makes his mark is as a program builder, culture changer, hiring the best people for their roles on staff, recruiter, and motivator. Going the coordinator route is not going to be his path to the big time.

4) Not all about the money to him (although obviously big dollars talk). His family have been in the Worcester area since 2013 and this is where he has raised his kids. I'm not saying he won't leave at some point, but it has to be a very good situation for him.

5) HC figures to be even better next year. As he's developing his own personal brand, 2023 would be the time to leave. There's going to be even more buzz going into next season and during the season around HC and Chesney than there was this year. They also play more of a national schedule next season (Army and BC), so if HC knocks off one of those teams, wins the PL for the fifth straight time, and advances deeper into the FCS playoffs, he's going to have better options.

In summation, some coaches might immediately jump at a Group of Five head coaching job or P5 job just to take the money and continue the escalate the coaching ladder, but that's not Chesney.
I assume you are right. But every time I see a fan put out an explanation of why a coach won't leave their program, I can't help but think "uh oh. That coach is about to leave"

[Libertine]

Rumor mill is churning. Seems we are hiring former player and DC Maurice Drayton, who left us for pros in various capacities when he didn't get the nod last time. Not official yet. Not unexpected.

Drayton is a good one. Wouldn't this be like the third time he's worked for you guys?

[ElCid]

Drayton is a good one. Wouldn't this be like the third time he's worked for you guys?

Yup, third round for him. Hope he has some magic. Defense guy, so hope he gets a good OC. Not sure what he will do in regard to scheme. Just waiting on sigs now apparently. He will probably take a pay cut although he had some issues in Pros and got demoted last year any way. But sort of nice to have a grad.

[bonarae]

T.C. Taylor, an alumnus of Jackson State and current WR coach, becomes the next Head Coach there.

[Daytripper]

T.C. Taylor, an alumnus of Jackson State and current WR coach, becomes the next Head Coach there.

Big shoes to fill. I am sure there will be a lot of unfair comparisons to Prime.

[WestCoastAggie]

Big shoes to fill. I am sure there will be a lot of unfair comparisons to Prime.

I always believed TC was going to be the coach in 2020 before Coach Prime came onto the scene.

[dbackjon]

https://twitter.com/SacHornetsFB/status/1602809730925068289?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Sac State elevates Andy Thompson

[FUBeAR]

https://twitter.com/jeff_fromthepc/status/1602830778488045568

[ElCid]

https://twitter.com/jeff_fromthepc/status/1602830778488045568

Lots of gnashing of teeth on our board about the process and whether we needed the "search firm" since some claim it was him all along. I know you push the process part of it, but I wonder how much process we really needed with a grad and the familiarity of a twice former coach to boot. One poster even flat out said it was nothing but window dressing for some people. Not sure if that was actual knowledge or just whining.

The other sore spot is the timing. He isn't going to be 100% on the job until the second week of Jan due to his obligations with the Raiders. So...we will miss a year of full on recruiting. I don't know if it will be as dire as some paint it, but it won't be good.

He maybe should have gotten the nod last time, but between an O coordinator running an option O and a D coordinator, it isn't surprising Thompson got picked.

The next question will be if he will content to remain indefinitely as his life's goal, or will he be looking to jump higher when, if, he has success. Having a stable, successful coach for an extended period would be nice. I hate being nothing but a stepping stone or filter for coaches on the move. But we need to see how he does first.

[Libertine]

The other sore spot is the timing. He isn't going to be 100% on the job until the second week of Jan due to his obligations with the Raiders. So...we will miss a year of full on recruiting. I don't know if it will be as dire as some paint it, but it won't be good.

If it helps, I'd be really surprised if Drayton weren't actively on the job in Charleston by Christmas. He's the Raiders' assistant special teams coordinator and that team is three days away from being essentially eliminated from the playoffs.

[ElCid]

If it helps, I'd be really surprised if Drayton weren't actively on the job in Charleston by Christmas. He's the Raiders' assistant special teams coordinator and that team is three days away from being essentially eliminated from the playoffs.

That's what I thought, but someone on our board posted that, they are in the know, and he will still be on the job there until the 8th of Jan. Didn't make sense to me.

[ElCid]

It's now official. Former Bulldog player and defensive coordinator Maurice Drayton has been named the next head football coach at The Citadel.

https://citadelsports.com/news/2022/12/14/drayton-named-head-football-coach.aspx

[WestCoastAggie]

Sam Washington is no longer the coach at A&T, ALLEGEDLY.

[dbackjon]

Sam Washington is no longer the coach at A&T, ALLEGEDLY.

https://hbcugameday.com/2022/12/14/sam-washington-north-carolina-at-part-ways/

[ngineer]

Lehigh reportedly has just completed on campus interviews of a small group of “finalists “ who made it through a “Zoom” culling process. Supposedly, over 70 applications were formally submitted and a group of about 15-20 were given a “Zoom” interview. It is hoped we have an announcement by Monday ..fingers crossed.

[Libertine]

Sam Washington is no longer the coach at A&T, ALLEGEDLY.

Did not see that coming, especially as A&T wrapped up their season nearly a month ago and we're only a week out from the early signing period. I'm guessing he's going to someone else's staff.

[DFW HOYA]

Lehigh reportedly has just completed on campus interviews of a small group of “finalists “ who made it through a “Zoom” culling process. Supposedly, over 70 applications were formally submitted and a group of about 15-20 were given a “Zoom” interview. It is hoped we have an announcement by Monday ..fingers crossed.

15-20 does not suggest a clear front-runner, and also suggests a lot of less prominent names in the mix. OK, I get it, Bob Chesney is not walking through that door, but I'm not sure Lehigh can sign a NEC coordinator or a head coach from the Centennial Conference given where the program is right now.

[WestCoastAggie]

Did not see that coming, especially as A&T wrapped up their season nearly a month ago and we're only a week out from the early signing period. I'm guessing he's going to someone else's staff.

I learned the Chancellor ended the relationship. If he did that for Connell Maynor, I’ll be pissed.

[Franks Tanks]

15-20 does not suggest a clear front-runner, and also suggests a lot of less prominent names in the mix. OK, I get it, Bob Chesney is not walking through that door, but I'm not sure Lehigh can sign a NEC coordinator or a head coach from the Centennial Conference given where the program is right now.


Did not see that coming, especially as A&T wrapped up their season nearly a month ago and were only a week out from the early signing period. I'm guessing he's going to someone else's staff.

I disagree, despite recent struggles, Lehigh is one of the best FCS jobs in the area with a history of success and caring about football. I just think Joe Sterret has lost his fastball and didn’t go into the process with a short list or a clear vision for the type of coach he wants.

At this point, he should ask a Dave Clawson or Kevin Higgins to do him a solid and ask their opinion. Nobody knows the best guys better than current coaches you trust.

[Libertine]

Missouri State just came open. Bobby Petrino is reportedly leaving to be the OC at UNLV. Feel free to start your "Bobby Petrino in Sin City" jokes now.

[Bisonator]

Mo state back to irrelevancy........that was quick haha

[SpreadTheWord]

UIW is promoting associate head coach/WR coach/recruiting coordinator Clint Killough to head coach. This is a home run hire. We couldn't be more excited about it.

[Daytripper]

UIW is promoting associate head coach/WR coach/recruiting coordinator Clint Killough to head coach. This is a home run hire. We couldn't be more excited about it.

Continuity is good, but does he have any head coaching experience?

[Daytripper]

Missouri State just came open. Bobby Petrino is reportedly leaving to be the OC at UNLV. Feel free to start your "Bobby Petrino in Sin City" jokes now.

He interviewed for the TAMU OC position. He may have been offered it but likely chose UNLV because can be a freak in relative anonymity in Vegas.

[dbackjon]

Continuity is good, but does he have any head coaching experience?

The last three (at least) NDSU coaches didn't have any Head Coaching experience, and that seems to have worked out well.

[SpreadTheWord]

Continuity is good, but does he have any head coaching experience?

Did Eric Morris or GJ Kinne have any???

[FUBeAR]

Continuity is good, but does he have any head coaching experience?
Not even close. Only has 2.5 years experience as a ‘real’ position Coach (bolded below). Actually, after further review, maybe only 1 year as it seems the Inside Receivers Coach reported to the Wide Receivers Coach. So 1.5 years as an Asst Position Coach & 1 year as a full-fledged Position Coach. 0 years as an On-the-Field Coordinator. FUBeAR has never seen a faster track to HC than this one. Good luck to him. He may be GREAT!

2017 - Bowling Green State University, Defensive Backs/ Special Teams Graduate Assistant
2017 - Also served at BG stint as the WRs Graduate Assistant
2018 - UIW - Quality Control - Wide Receivers
2019 - UIW - Quality Control/On Campus Recruiting Coordinator
2020 - UIW - Inside Receivers / Recruiting Coordinator (6 game season)
2021 - UIW - Inside Receivers / Recruiting Coordinator
2022 - UIW - Associate Head Coach/Wide Receivers/Recruiting Coordinator

[Bisonator]

The last three (at least) NDSU coaches didn't have any Head Coaching experience, and that seems to have worked out well.
Not true. Kleiman was HC at Loras......whatever the hell that is but your point stands.:D

[Professor Chaos]

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1603423192416194562

Impressive for a guy to be named a head coach of a D1 program before his 30th birthday.

[Daytripper]

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1603423192416194562

Impressive for a guy to be named a head coach of a D1 program before his 30th birthday.

Kind of a risky move IMHO if it is just for the sake of continuity.

[ngineer]

Kind of a risky move IMHO if it is just for the sake of continuity.

Not necessarily. Pete Lembo became the nation's youngest head coach at Lehigh in 2001 at age 29, when Kevin Higgins unexpectedly left due to an "offer that could not be refused" from the NFL, albeit it was with the bottom rung Detroit Lions. One could not blame him for taking the chance. But Lembo, OC Cecchini and DC Gilmore had approached the AD and promised they would all stay another 2-3 years if the new HC was one of them. Lehigh was riding a big wave at the time and keeping the momentum was paramount. Lembo go the nod and Lehigh continued to surf for another five years.

[FUBeAR]

Not necessarily. Pete Lembo became the nation's youngest head coach at Lehigh in 2001 at age 29, when Kevin Higgins unexpectedly left due to an "offer that could not be refused" from the NFL, albeit it was with the bottom rung Detroit Lions. One could not blame him for taking the chance. But Lembo, OC Cecchini and DC Gilmore had approached the AD and promised they would all stay another 2-3 years if the new HC was one of them. Lehigh was riding a big wave at the time and keeping the momentum was paramount. Lembo go the nod and Lehigh continued to surf for another five years.


Pete Lembo Biographical details


Born
April 16, 1970


Lembo was 30; almost 31 when he was named Lehigh’s HC on February 7, 2001.

But…more importantly, he had 7 years of experience as a college position Coach and experience as an Offensive Coordinator when he was named a Head Coach.

This could turn out to be a homerun hire for UIW, but using an analogy to FUBeAR’s Search Firm experience. If FUBeAR submitted a ‘blinded’ version of Killough’s resume to a typical Search Committee seeking an FCS Head Coach, they would ask for a refund of their Retainer immediately.

[SpreadTheWord]

Pete Lembo Biographical details


Born
April 16, 1970


Lembo was 30; almost 31 when he was named Lehigh’s HC on February 7, 2001.

But…more importantly, he had 7 years of experience as a college position Coach and experience as an Offensive Coordinator when he was named a Head Coach.

This could turn out to be a homerun hire for UIW, but using an analogy to FUBeAR’s Search Firm experience. If FUBeAR submitted a ‘blinded’ version of Killough’s resume to a typical Search Committee seeking an FCS Head Coach, they would ask for a refund of their Retainer immediately.

Really glad you weren't on the hiring committee then. xsmiley_wix

[ngineer]

Pete Lembo Biographical details


Born
April 16, 1970


Lembo was 30; almost 31 when he was named Lehigh’s HC on February 7, 2001.

But…more importantly, he had 7 years of experience as a college position Coach and experience as an Offensive Coordinator when he was named a Head Coach.

This could turn out to be a homerun hire for UIW, but using an analogy to FUBeAR’s Search Firm experience. If FUBeAR submitted a ‘blinded’ version of Killough’s resume to a typical Search Committee seeking an FCS Head Coach, they would ask for a refund of their Retainer immediately.

Interesting. I am pretty sure when he was selected that they said he was 29...or it may have been when they announced him being 'associate head coach' for Higgins. Regardless, the can be need for continuity in order to retain most of your core team, AND as long has the HC has an excellent staff around him, it can work. Gilmore, the following year, received the Assistant Coach of the Year Award in the nation at the FCS level, and Cecchini was hired away soon after by Harvard as their OC.

[Libertine]

UIW is promoting associate head coach/WR coach/recruiting coordinator Clint Killough to head coach. This is a home run hire. We couldn't be more excited about it.

By any reasonable metric, this is not a home run hire. In fact, it's barely a hire at all.

Having said that, Killough may truly be some kind of wunderkind who will wow the rest of FCS. But you have to acknowledge that, from the outside looking in, hiring a guy to run your D1 program who has only been coaching for five years total -- one of which was a chapter in the tragic comedy of Mike Jinks' tenure at Bowling Green, btw -- and who's barely old enough to rent a car for recruiting visits, looks like all kinds of risky.

[ST_Lawson]

Missouri State has a Coach Beard

https://i.giphy.com/media/fUANz4lTHQVSlhRV8X/giphy.gif

https://twitter.com/MOStateFootball/status/1603752361213759491

[FUBeAR]

Missouri State has a Coach Beard

https://i.giphy.com/media/fUANz4lTHQVSlhRV8X/giphy.gif

https://twitter.com/MOStateFootball/status/1603752361213759491

”Beard is married to the former Katie Petrino.”

…now that seems interesting, huh? Almost seems as if the torch was passed. Cool…maybe.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY5-EYvj9ok

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

”Beard is married to the former Katie Petrino.”

…now that seems interesting, huh? Almost seems as if the torch was passed. Cool…maybe.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY5-EYvj9ok

Yeah this seems a bit...sketchy?

The Petrino stink is often hard to eliminate.....

[FUBeAR]

Yeah this seems a bit...sketchy?

The Petrino stink is often hard to eliminate.....
Reminds FUBeAR, in some ways, of Wofford’s last miserable failure of a Head Coaching hire rife with nepotism. As an Atlanta Falcons Fan, ie Petrino HATER, FUBeAR hopes this works out just as well for MiseryState as that hire did for Wofford.

[Libertine]

Yeah this seems a bit...sketchy?

The Petrino stink is often hard to eliminate.....

I think this -- and the UIW hire -- illustrate how, with the start of the Early Signing Period less than a week away, AD's seem to panic and promote the first guy sitting to the right in the staff meetings just to "keep the program's momentum going". For UIW, you can probably make a realistic argument for that but MO State's momentum is "meh" at best.

[WestCoastAggie]

I think this -- and the UIW hire -- illustrate how, with the start of the Early Signing Period less than a week away, AD's seem to panic and promote the first guy sitting to the right in the staff meetings just to "keep the program's momentum going". For UIW, you can probably make a realistic argument for that but MO State's momentum is "meh" at best.

I can tell you one school that isn't rushing to make a hire before next week.

[caribbeanhen]

I can tell you one school that isn't rushing to make a hire before next week.

I was surprised to hear your Coach got fired, I guess not winning the Big South was a big part of it

[WestCoastAggie]

I was surprised to hear your Coach got fired, I guess not winning the Big South was a big part of it

Believe it or not, there were Alumni that didn't believe Sam would have much success in the CAA. I guess our Chancellor, who is also an Alumnus, felt the same way.

[caribbeanhen]

Believe it or not, there were Alumni that didn't believe Sam would have much success in the CAA. I guess our Chancellor, who is also an Alumnus, felt the same way.

Interesting, we’re they expecting success right away? given the CAA has teams like the ones below your already middle of the pack.... Coach just needed to recruit
Hampton
Albany
Stony Brook
Monmouth
Towson

[FUBeAR]

Interesting, we’re they expecting success right away? given the CAA has teams like the ones below your already middle of the pack.... Coach just needed to recruit
Hampton
Albany
Stony Brook
Monmouth
Towson
Why are you picking on those 5?

2022 Football Standings


SCHOOL
CAA


Delaware (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2832)
4-4


Towson (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2831)
4-4


Villanova (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2829)
4-4


Monmouth (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2823)
3-5


UAlbany (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2822)
2-6


Maine (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2828)
2-6


Hampton (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2824)
1-7


Stony Brook (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2825)
1-7



If you’re including Towson, don’t you have to include Maine, Delaware and Villanova also? A&T is easily in the top 1/2 of the CAA now…maybe top third.

[caribbeanhen]

Why are you picking on those 5?

2022 Football Standings


SCHOOL
CAA


Delaware (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2832)
4-4


Towson (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2831)
4-4


Villanova (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2829)
4-4


Monmouth (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2823)
3-5


UAlbany (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2822)
2-6


Maine (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2828)
2-6


Hampton (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2824)
1-7


Stony Brook (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2825)
1-7



If you’re including Towson, don’t you have to include Maine, Delaware and Villanova also? A&T is easily in the top 1/2 of the CAA now…maybe top third.


Nope

[WestCoastAggie]

Interesting, we’re they expecting success right away? given the CAA has teams like the ones below your already middle of the pack.... Coach just needed to recruit
Hampton
Albany
Stony Brook
Monmouth
Towson

He and his staff were able to recruit. Heck, our star Soph RB just got an offer from UGA out of the portal and one of our starting LBs moved on to ECU with another generating FBS/P5 interest. We also had multiple players drafted or landing NFL FA deals.

The talent was never the issue. It was the schemes. They never evolved in order to manage beating a team like Monmouth, Furman, or what we'll see in the CAA.

[acbearkat]

I'm stunned that Lamar hired someone who has no ties to the state of Texas as their next head coach. They need someone who can recruit the Houston area and the Golden Triangle area. Their new head coach needs to hire assistant coaches who know the recruiting landscape.

[dbackjon]

Not true. Kleiman was HC at Loras......whatever the hell that is but your point stands.:D

I missed that - one whole year as HC. Loras Duhawks, DIII in Dubuque. I actually have a friend whose nephew plays currently on the Loras team.

[KPSUL]

Why are you picking on those 5?

2022 Football Standings


SCHOOL
CAA


Delaware (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2832)
4-4


Towson (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2831)
4-4


Villanova (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2829)
4-4


Monmouth (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2823)
3-5


UAlbany (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2822)
2-6


Maine (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2828)
2-6


Hampton (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2824)
1-7


Stony Brook (https://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=2825)
1-7



If you’re including Towson, don’t you have to include Maine, Delaware and Villanova also? A&T is easily in the top 1/2 of the CAA now…maybe top third.

I wouldn't include Towson, Delaware or Nova in the list that NC A&T is "better than". I wouldn't have included Monmouth if QB Tony Muskett hadn't deserted to UVA and there weren't 9 other MU players in the portal. I would put NC A&T on a par with Monmouth, Maine and Albany. That leaves Stony Brook and Hampton the CAA teams that NC A&T are already "better than". Monmouth was widely touted as a team that would be highly competitive in the CAA right out of the gate; and they had a better recent Big South resume than NC A&T the last 2-3 seasons before moving to the CAA. NC A&T had their best seasons 2016 - 2019.

And wait to you see the 2023 New Hampshire team - you're gonna luv'em!

[dbackjon]

Yeah this seems a bit...sketchy?

The Petrino stink is often hard to eliminate.....

So they promoted Bobby's son-in-law...

[FUBeAR]

And wait to you see the 2023 New Hampshire team - you're gonna luv'em!Who do you think will love the 2023 UNH Wildcats more…FUBeAR or the 2023 Playoff Selection Committee?


#DefundTheCommittee

[caribbeanhen]

He and his staff were able to recruit. Heck, our star Soph RB just got an offer from UGA out of the portal and one of our starting LBs moved on to ECU with another generating FBS/P5 interest. We also had multiple players drafted or landing NFL FA deals.

The talent was never the issue. It was the schemes. They never evolved in order to manage beating a team like Monmouth, Furman, or what we'll see in the CAA.

gotcha but seems like he should of had a year in CAA ... I guess your telling me he stubbornly kept things simple despite being asked to be a schemer.... I gotcha down for 3-5 now in CAA

[UNHWildcat18]

Who do you think will love the 2023 UNH Wildcats more…FUBeAR or the 2023 Playoff Selection Committee?


#DefundTheCommittee

Stupid statements as usual, keep crying

[WestCoastAggie]

gotcha but seems like he should of had a year in CAA ... I guess your telling me he stubbornly kept things simple despite being asked to be a schemer.... I gotcha down for 3-5 now in CAA

Exactly. What worked in the MEAC and against teams that can't throw, won't work against teams with good to great QB play. And it's a reason why the PR says "mutually agreed to part ways." He didn't want to coach in the CAA. We need someone that wants to be there.

[ncspiderfan]

Western Michigan: FootballScoop can confirm that Richmond (FCS - VA) offensive coordinator Billy Cosh will be the new offensive coordinator for the Broncos. Pete Thamel was first to share the news. Sources share that Lance Taylor vetted a number of candidates for the opening the past several days, including Joe Davis who spent last season at Eastern Illinois (FCS).



Damn

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Ed Reed has been named the head coach at Bethune-Cookman.

[WestCoastAggie]

gotcha but seems like he should of had a year in CAA ... I guess you’re telling me he stubbornly kept things simple despite being asked to be a schemer.... I gotcha down for 3-5 now in CAAkeep that prediction in pencil until next week at the latest.

Things are brewing in Aggieland and it will be a doozie.

[Libertine]

Ed Reed has been named the head coach at Bethune-Cookman.

This move makes no sense at all for either party. Ed Reed is an all-time great player at every level but there is very little in his work or playing history that suggests he has the executive or recruiting skills necessary to be a college head coach and even less to suggest that coaching even interests him.

This isn't the equivalent of Jackson State hiring Deion Sanders, it's the equivalent of Indianapolis hiring Jeff Saturday.

[unknown-swac]

This move makes no sense at all for either party. Ed Reed is an all-time great player at every level but there is very little in his work or playing history that suggests he has the executive or recruiting skills necessary to be a college head coach and even less to suggest that coaching even interests him.

This isn't the equivalent of Jackson State hiring Deion Sanders, it's the equivalent of Indianapolis hiring Jeff Saturday.

Except it's not much different at all other than the fact that Deion is more vocal. His only coaching experience was on the high school level. People said hiring Deion was dumb too. How about wait and see.

[Libertine]

Except it's not much different at all other than the fact that Deion is more vocal. His only coaching experience was on the high school level. People said hiring Deion was dumb too. How about wait and see.

Y'all can go back on this forum and look but I never said JSU hiring Deion was dumb. It was high-risk/high-reward but it wasn't dumb. Still, this isn't that situation at all.

Deion had been active in business and had already built his own program from the ground up at Prime Academy so he had a lot of experience making executive decisions well before he set foot in Jackson. He was also an established and charismatic marketing brand. You can downplay his coaching experience as merely being at the HS level but at least he had it. Further, Deion had a clear endgame in mind when he took the JSU job, stating publicly on multiple occasions that he wanted to be a P5 head coach in the near future.

Ed Reed has NONE of this going into B-C.

Ed Reed was a part-time assistant DB coach for one year in 2015 and was a figurehead admin at the U for the last three years. That's a gap of five years where nothing coaching-related or program-related happened and the last three years in which he could've been actively coaching at least a position but didn't. This tells us that (A) Ed Reed gets into college athletics when he feels like it and that (B) he doesn't feel like it all that often. Is Ed Reed a good marketer? Has Ed Reed even been in the public eye since he retired? The only thing I can barely point to in terms of headlines -- and just barely -- is a briefly publicized Twitter spat with Jack Del Rio. What of that suggests that Ed Reed will successfully lead the Bethune-Cookman program? Frankly, I'm shocked he was even interested in the job.

I get that Terry Sims has been 4-18 since the epidemic year but this seems like B-C is grasping at straws, trying to recreate the Deion @ JSU Experience without understanding why that situation was unique. In fact, it reads a lot like the Tennessee State hiring of Eddie George, also in the wake of Deion at JSU. So far, that last hasn't gone particularly well for TSU.

[OhioHen]

Who do you think will love the 2023 UNH Wildcats more…FUBeAR or the 2023 Playoff Selection Committee?


#DefundTheCommittee
FUBeAR>committee. Marty has retired.

[unknown-swac]

If thats the case then your logic makes no sense.

[bonarae]

Did we miss out on MVSU hiring Kendrick Wade? xchinscratchx

[UNHWildcat18]

FUBeAR>committee. Marty has retired.

So sorry that evil wizard Marty kept that one 7-4 UD team out of the playoffs that one time. I am sure you guys would have won the Natty that year. Stupid Marty.

[Libertine]

Missouri State just came open. Bobby Petrino is reportedly leaving to be the OC at UNLV. Feel free to start your "Bobby Petrino in Sin City" jokes now.

Ha. Jokes on UNLV.

Bobby has already moved on to be the offensive coordinator at Texas A&M.

[Milktruck74]

Wofford takes the "interim" title off Shawn Watson. He went 3-3 after the Conklin debacle....so probably a solid hire. I would be interested to know who Wofford looked at in addition to CSW?

[FUBeAR]

Wofford takes the "interim" title off Shawn Watson. He went 3-3 after the Conklin debacle....so probably a solid hire. I would be interested to know who Wofford looked at in addition to CSW?
…and Truman beat Dewey. Where ya been? This was 12/1/22 news.

https://twitter.com/woffordterriers/status/1598367993309847552

[WestCoastAggie]

It’s official.

https://twitter.com/ncataggies/status/1611467689402290181?s=46&t=qfuUt6QiuXRax-LaWPePOg

[aceinthehole]

Central Connecticut is the last FCS team to fill their head coaching vacancy. Adam Lechtenberg, a former offensive coordinator at CCSU is named 15th head coach in program history.

Not a very exciting hire, but probably the best we can expect with the current support from our President. This was not an appealing job for more experienced guys, but it isn't that hard to win here. He was part of our 2010 NEC Championship and we have 2 NCAA playoff appearances in our last 5 seasons played.

A former walk-on at Nebraska, Lechtenberg has coached at TCU, Virginia Tech, Memphis, Tenn-Martin, and D-II Central Oklahoma. His highlights are recruiting at Virgina Tech and Memphis for Justin Fuente. Young with potential, but not sure how he will build and manage a program, but we will see ...

https://twitter.com/CCSUBlueDevils/status/1613287340138713089

https://ccsu.prestosports.com/sports/fball/2022-23/releases/20230111c9niro

[Libertine]

The honeymoon is apparently already over for Ed Reed and Bethune-Cookman in Daytona. I may have been wrong about the dynamic in play here because, based on this, it looks like Reed may be more invested in the program than the B-C admin.

Trigger warning: very NSFW for language

https://twitter.com/i/status/1614735235257712641

[Pards Rule]

Rob Ambrose out at Towson. 76-76 in 13 seasons, highlighted by a 2013 FCS finals appearance.

Tigers finished 6-5 this past season.

https://towsontigers.com/news/2022/11/21/ambrose-will-not-return-as-towson-football-head-coach.aspx

Havent been on this site since Frisco game but on this AM and ironically see this and I drove thru Towson Univ just this past week on biz. BTW Raisin Canes opened inline downtown last week. I was going to try it (never been before) BUT line went out door to sidewalk.

[FUBeAR]

BTW Raisin Canes opened inline downtown last week. I was going to try it (never been before) BUT line went out door to sidewalk.
Food sounds expensive there, but delivery is as reliable as the mail…

https://twitter.com/fos/status/1613627165462994945

[CockyGeek]

Ed Reed is out at Bethune-Cookman. I guess his tirade should have been behind closed doors.

[FUBeAR]

Ed Reed is out at Bethune-Cookman. I guess his tirade should have been behind closed doors.
https://twitter.com/twentyer/status/1616829582325460992

[Libertine]

Ed Reed is out at Bethune-Cookman.

I can't really say 'I told you so' because I think I was wrong about some of the specifics of the situation even though I was exactly correct that Ed Reed and Bethune-Cookman weren't a fit.

I just hope that, going forward, B-C and other HBCU's honestly evaluate why the "Deion Effect" worked at Jackson State before hopping on the nearest ex-NFL player who shows an interest in their program.

[DFW HOYA]

Over the last three days, Ed Reed sowed the seeds of his own demise. He was not a good representative of the school of to its students.

[Bisonoline]

Havent been on this site since Frisco game but on this AM and ironically see this and I drove thru Towson Univ just this past week on biz. BTW Raisin Canes opened inline downtown last week. I was going to try it (never been before) BUT line went out door to sidewalk.

Very good chicken.