2023 Baseball Hall of Fame Contemporary Ballot

[Gil Dobie]

What 8 players will be announced on Nov 7th, for the Contemporary Ballot, players who played a majority of their career after 1980.

Barry Bonds (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Bonds), Roger Clemens (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Clemens), Sammy Sosa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Sosa), Fred McGriff (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_McGriff), Curt Schilling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curt_Schilling), and Kenny Lofton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Lofton). Dwight Evans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Evans_(baseball)), Dave Parker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Parker), Lou Whitaker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Whitaker), Don Mattingly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Mattingly), Dale Murphy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Murphy), Albert Belle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Belle), Will Clark (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Clark), Orel Hershiser (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orel_Hershiser), Joe Carter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Carter), Mark McGwire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_McGwire), Ron Guidry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Guidry), Dan Quisenberry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Quisenberry), Kevin Appier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Appier), Bob Boone (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Boone), Kevin Brown (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Brown_(right-handed_pitcher)), Jose Canseco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Canseco), Jack Clark (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Clark_(baseball)), David Cone (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cone), Brian Downing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Downing), Cecil Fielder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Fielder), Chuck Finley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Finley), Steve Finley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Finley), John Franco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Franco), Andrés Galarraga (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9s_Galarraga), Kirk Gibson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Gibson), Juan González (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Gonz%C3%A1lez_(baseball)), Dwight Gooden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Gooden), Mark Grace (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Grace), Ken Griffey Sr. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Griffey_Sr.), Pedro Guerrero (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Guerrero_(first_baseman/outfielder)), Keith Hernandez (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Hernandez), Carney Lansford (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carney_Lansford), Chet Lemon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chet_Lemon), Fred Lynn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Lynn), Dennis Martínez (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Mart%C3%ADnez), Willie McGee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_McGee), Randy Myers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Myers), John Olerud (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Olerud), Rafael Palmeiro (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Palmeiro), Tony Peña (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Pe%C3%B1a), Willie Randolph (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Randolph), Jeff Reardon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Reardon), Rick Reuschel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Reuschel), Dave Righetti (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Righetti), Bret Saberhagen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Saberhagen), Steve Sax (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Sax), Dave Stewart (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Stewart_(baseball)), Dave Stieb (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Stieb), Frank Tanana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Tanana), Kent Tekulve (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Tekulve), Fernando Valenzuela (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Valenzuela), Mo Vaughn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo_Vaughn), Robin Ventura (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Ventura), Frank Viola (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Viola), David Wells (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wells), John Wetteland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wetteland), Devon White (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devon_White_(baseball)), Frank White (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_White_(baseball)), Bernie Williams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Williams), Matt Williams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Williams_(third_baseman)) and Willie Wilson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Wilson_(baseball)).

I would go with Fred McGriff, Curt Schilling, Dave Parker, Lou Whitaker, Don Mattingly, Dale Murphy, Ron Guidry, Keith Hernandez

[Bisonoline]

Thats a lot of great ball players.

[dbackjon]

Thats a lot of great ball players.

Really good players plus a bunch of juicers.

Other than a few of the juicers, none of that list screams Hall of Fame

[dbackjon]

What 8 players will be announced on Nov 7th, for the Contemporary Ballot, players who played a majority of their career after 1980.

Barry Bonds (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Bonds), Roger Clemens (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Clemens), Sammy Sosa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Sosa), Fred McGriff (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_McGriff), Curt Schilling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curt_Schilling), and Kenny Lofton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Lofton). Dwight Evans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Evans_(baseball)), Dave Parker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Parker), Lou Whitaker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Whitaker), Don Mattingly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Mattingly), Dale Murphy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Murphy), Albert Belle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Belle), Will Clark (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Clark), Orel Hershiser (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orel_Hershiser), Joe Carter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Carter), Mark McGwire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_McGwire), Ron Guidry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Guidry), Dan Quisenberry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Quisenberry), Kevin Appier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Appier), Bob Boone (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Boone), Kevin Brown (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Brown_(right-handed_pitcher)), Jose Canseco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Canseco), Jack Clark (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Clark_(baseball)), David Cone (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cone), Brian Downing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Downing), Cecil Fielder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Fielder), Chuck Finley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Finley), Steve Finley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Finley), John Franco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Franco), Andrés Galarraga (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9s_Galarraga), Kirk Gibson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Gibson), Juan González (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Gonz%C3%A1lez_(baseball)), Dwight Gooden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Gooden), Mark Grace (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Grace), Ken Griffey Sr. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Griffey_Sr.), Pedro Guerrero (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Guerrero_(first_baseman/outfielder)), Keith Hernandez (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Hernandez), Carney Lansford (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carney_Lansford), Chet Lemon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chet_Lemon), Fred Lynn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Lynn), Dennis Martínez (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Mart%C3%ADnez), Willie McGee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_McGee), Randy Myers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Myers), John Olerud (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Olerud), Rafael Palmeiro (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Palmeiro), Tony Peña (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Pe%C3%B1a), Willie Randolph (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Randolph), Jeff Reardon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Reardon), Rick Reuschel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Reuschel), Dave Righetti (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Righetti), Bret Saberhagen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Saberhagen), Steve Sax (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Sax), Dave Stewart (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Stewart_(baseball)), Dave Stieb (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Stieb), Frank Tanana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Tanana), Kent Tekulve (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Tekulve), Fernando Valenzuela (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Valenzuela), Mo Vaughn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo_Vaughn), Robin Ventura (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Ventura), Frank Viola (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Viola), David Wells (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wells), John Wetteland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wetteland), Devon White (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devon_White_(baseball)), Frank White (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_White_(baseball)), Bernie Williams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Williams), Matt Williams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Williams_(third_baseman)) and Willie Wilson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Wilson_(baseball)).

I would go with Fred McGriff, Curt Schilling, Dave Parker, Lou Whitaker, Don Mattingly, Dale Murphy, Ron Guidry, Keith Hernandez

Quite a few from the 2001 World Series

Roger Clemens - NYY Game 7 starter
Curt Schilling - AZ Dbacks Game 7 starter
Steve Finley - AZ Dbacks CF starter
Mark Grace - AZ Dbacks 1B starter
Matt Williams - AZ Dbacks 3B starter

Of course, Jeter and Rivera from the Yankees (plus manager Joe Torre) are already in the HOF as well as AZ Dbacks Randy Johnson

[caribbeanhen]

What 8 players will be announced on Nov 7th, for the Contemporary Ballot, players who played a majority of their career after 1980.

Barry Bonds (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Bonds), Roger Clemens (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Clemens), Sammy Sosa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Sosa), Fred McGriff (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_McGriff), Curt Schilling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curt_Schilling), and Kenny Lofton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Lofton). Dwight Evans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Evans_(baseball)), Dave Parker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Parker), Lou Whitaker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Whitaker), Don Mattingly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Mattingly), Dale Murphy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Murphy), Albert Belle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Belle), Will Clark (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Clark), Orel Hershiser (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orel_Hershiser), Joe Carter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Carter), Mark McGwire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_McGwire), Ron Guidry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Guidry), Dan Quisenberry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Quisenberry), Kevin Appier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Appier), Bob Boone (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Boone), Kevin Brown (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Brown_(right-handed_pitcher)), Jose Canseco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Canseco), Jack Clark (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Clark_(baseball)), David Cone (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cone), Brian Downing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Downing), Cecil Fielder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Fielder), Chuck Finley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Finley), Steve Finley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Finley), John Franco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Franco), Andrés Galarraga (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9s_Galarraga), Kirk Gibson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Gibson), Juan González (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Gonz%C3%A1lez_(baseball)), Dwight Gooden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Gooden), Mark Grace (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Grace), Ken Griffey Sr. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Griffey_Sr.), Pedro Guerrero (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Guerrero_(first_baseman/outfielder)), Keith Hernandez (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Hernandez), Carney Lansford (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carney_Lansford), Chet Lemon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chet_Lemon), Fred Lynn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Lynn), Dennis Martínez (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Mart%C3%ADnez), Willie McGee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_McGee), Randy Myers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Myers), John Olerud (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Olerud), Rafael Palmeiro (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Palmeiro), Tony Peña (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Pe%C3%B1a), Willie Randolph (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Randolph), Jeff Reardon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Reardon), Rick Reuschel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Reuschel), Dave Righetti (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Righetti), Bret Saberhagen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Saberhagen), Steve Sax (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Sax), Dave Stewart (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Stewart_(baseball)), Dave Stieb (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Stieb), Frank Tanana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Tanana), Kent Tekulve (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Tekulve), Fernando Valenzuela (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Valenzuela), Mo Vaughn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo_Vaughn), Robin Ventura (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Ventura), Frank Viola (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Viola), David Wells (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wells), John Wetteland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wetteland), Devon White (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devon_White_(baseball)), Frank White (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_White_(baseball)), Bernie Williams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Williams), Matt Williams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Williams_(third_baseman)) and Willie Wilson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Wilson_(baseball)).

I would go with Fred McGriff, Curt Schilling, Dave Parker, Lou Whitaker, Don Mattingly, Dale Murphy, Ron Guidry, Keith Hernandez

Frank Tanana... wow I had forgotten about him. A hard throwing lefty that came up with the Angels and was one of the most highly touted prospects ever

[Gil Dobie]

Belle, Bonds, Clemens, Palmeiro, Mattingly, McGriff, Schilling and Murphy make the ballot.

[Gil Dobie]

The Contemporary Baseball Era player ballot was determined this fall by the Historical Overview Committee, comprised of 11 veteran historians: Bob Elliott (Canadian Baseball Network); Jim Henneman (formerly Baltimore Sun); Steve Hirdt (Stats Perform); Rick Hummel (St. Louis Post-Dispatch); David O’Brien (The Athletic); Jack O’Connell (BBWAA); Jim Reeves (formerly Fort Worth Star-Telegram); Tracy Ringolsby (InsideTheSeams.com); Glenn Schwarz (formerly San Francisco Chronicle); Susan Slusser (San Francisco Chronicle); and Mark Whicker (Los Angeles News Group).
The 16-member Hall of Fame Board-appointed electorates charged with the review of the Contemporary Baseball Era player ballot will be announced later this fall. The Committee will meet to discuss and review the candidacies of the eight finalists as part of baseball’s Winter Meetings on Dec. 4 in San Diego, Calif.

[Gil Dobie]

Crime Dog goes to Cooperstown.

[Gil Dobie]

PLAYER VOTES (PCT)
Fred McGriff 16 votes, (100%)
Don Mattingly 8 votes, (50%)
Curt Schilling 7 votes (43.8%)
Dale Murphy 6 votes (37.5%)
Albert Belle Less than 4 votes
Barry Bonds Less than 4 votes
Roger Clemens Less than 4 votes
Rafael Palmeiro Less than 4 votes

[grizband]

PLAYER VOTES (PCT)
Fred McGriff 16 votes, (100%)
Don Mattingly 8 votes, (50%)
Curt Schilling 7 votes (43.8%)
Dale Murphy 6 votes (37.5%)
Albert Belle Less than 4 votes
Barry Bonds Less than 4 votes
Roger Clemens Less than 4 votes
Rafael Palmeiro Less than 4 votes
What are your thoughts? Is McGriff truly a Hall of Fame caliber player? I always considered him maybe one step below that level.

[Gil Dobie]

What are your thoughts? Is McGriff truly a Hall of Fame caliber player? I always considered him maybe one step below that level.

He was a bit overshadowed by the PED era numbers, but 493 homers, may have hit 500 if not for the 1994 strike during his best season. 10 times he hit over 30 HRs, 8 times over 100 RBIs, I would say he is.

These former players on the committee, all voted for him. Chipper Jones, Greg Maddux, Jack Morris, Ryne Sandberg, Lee Smith, Frank Thomas and Alan Trammell.

[caribbeanhen]

He was a bit overshadowed by the PED era numbers, but 493 homers, may have hit 500 if not for the 1994 strike during his best season. 10 times he hit over 30 HRs, 8 times over 100 RBIs, I would say he is.

These former players on the committee, all voted for him. Chipper Jones, Greg Maddux, Jack Morris, Ryne Sandberg, Lee Smith, Frank Thomas and Alan Trammell.

Yep, McGriff deserves to be in the HOF

[POD Knows]

Yep, McGriff deserves to be in the HOF
I always liked McGriffs “finish” at the top of his swing, it reminded me of my wiffle ball swing from back in the day.

[BisonFan02]

The crime dog should get in just for staring in Tom Emanski's defensive drills video. :D

[ngineer]

Glad to see the "Crime Dog" get into the HOF!!