Week 8 2022 Score Thread

[bonarae]

Post score updates and final scores of FCS games here. :)

Two Northeast FCS games on the docket for today:

Princeton at Harvard
LIU at Wagner

Both have 7 PM EDT kickoff time.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Princeton 7 Harvard 0 8:27 1Q

Phillies have my focus while this game and Temple vs Tulsa will be worth keeping tabs on...

[KPSUL]

LIU 13
Wagner 14

2Q

[KPSUL]

LIU 13
Wagner 21
2Q

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Princeton 14 Harvard 10 Half

[KPSUL]

Princeton 14
Harvard 10

Halftime

[NY Crusader 2010]

My hunch is that this is the game of the year for the Ivy. I'm watching.

FCS Football Friday night > Thursday Night NFL x 100

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

My hunch is that this is the game of the year for the Ivy. I'm watching.

FCS Football Friday night > Thursday Night NFL x 100

I believe Princeton is a legit Top 20 team when they're focused. Not a team you would want to face in the playoffs. Seriously, how cool would a Delaware vs Princeton playoff game be?!?!

[KPSUL]

LIU 16
Wagner 24

halftime

[bonarae]

Apologies, I have graduate school class and I need to prepare for it...

Princeton 21, Harvard 10 11:08 3Q
Wagner 24, LIU 16 start 3Q

[bonarae]

Harvard collapses again...

Princeton 28, Harvard 10 56 seconds left in 3Q

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Princeton 28 Harvard 10 0:56 3Q

[bulldog10jw]

Harvard collapses again...

Princeton 28, Harvard 10 56 seconds left in 3Q

The revenge factor not working out.

[KPSUL]

LIU 19
Wagner 24

3rd Q

[MR. CHICKEN]

L.I.U. 19
WAGNER 30 5:55 3Q

[KPSUL]

LIU 19
Wagner 30

5:50 3Q

[bonarae]

Princeton padding on points...

Princeton 31, Harvard 10 9:38 left

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The Tigers are picking up steam. They were sleep walking when they played Lehigh early in the season. This team has a legit chance to finish 10-0 imo....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Old Nassau time again in Cambridge!

Tigers 37-10 7:16 4Q

[bonarae]

7:16 left in regulation
Princeton 37
Harvard 10

[bulldog10jw]

A rare occurrence to see a Harvard team look this bad.

[NY Crusader 2010]

Princeton totally dominated that 2nd half in all phases.

[bonarae]

Final from Boston:
Princeton 37
Harvard 10

Looks like Murphy is done after a few more years like this. xsmhx

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Princeton totally dominated that 2nd half in all phases.

Surace has really elevated the talent level at Princeton. They have G5 level guys all over the field imo. However, he loves to win by always being one step ahead. Sometimes it backfires...

Will the Tigers be ranked come Monday? Or will the AGS bias prevent it? That's a Top 20 team, or better. My last gasp "it's a damn shame the IL doesn't participate in the playoffs" of the night. With that said, Yale and Penn will be tricky. Especially Penn because they have the type of defense that can frustrate the Tiger's sometimes gimmicky offense.

[bonarae]

Wagner 37
LIU 19
10:08 left in regulation

[caribbeanhen]

Surace has really elevated the talent level at Princeton. They have G5 level guys all over the field imo. However, he loves to win by always being one step ahead. Sometimes it backfires...

Will the Tigers be ranked come Monday? Or will the AGS bias prevent it? That's a Top 20 team, or better. My last gasp "it's a damn shame the IL doesn't participate in the playoffs" of the night. With that said, Yale and Penn will be tricky. Especially Penn because they have the type of defense that can frustrate the Tiger's sometimes gimmicky offense.

Princeton is all the Ivy has this year

10/16/2022 7:49:19

Your vote is listed below.


1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Sac State Hornets
3: Weber State Wildcats
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Mercer Bears
6: North Dakota State Bison
7: Holy Cross Crusaders
8: William & Mary Tribe
9: Incarnate Word Cardinals
10: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
11: Idaho Vandals
12: Montana Grizzlies
13: Samford Bulldogs
14: Richmond Spiders
15: Chattanooga Mocs
16: Jackson State Tigers
17: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
18: Southern Illinois Salukis
19: Furman Paladins
20: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
21: Rhode Island Rams
22: Elon Phoenix
23: Fordham Rams
24: Princeton Tigers
25: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks

Caribbeanhen

[bonarae]

Wagner 37
LIU 26
6:27 left in regulation

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Princeton is all the Ivy has this year

10/16/2022 7:49:19

Your vote is listed below.


1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Sac State Hornets
3: Weber State Wildcats
4: Montana State Bobcats
5: Mercer Bears
6: North Dakota State Bison
7: Holy Cross Crusaders
8: William & Mary Tribe
9: Incarnate Word Cardinals
10: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
11: Idaho Vandals
12: Montana Grizzlies
13: Samford Bulldogs
14: Richmond Spiders
15: Chattanooga Mocs
16: Jackson State Tigers
17: Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
18: Southern Illinois Salukis
19: Furman Paladins
20: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
21: Rhode Island Rams
22: Elon Phoenix
23: Fordham Rams
24: Princeton Tigers
25: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks

Caribbeanhen

Give me Princeton -9.5 against Fordham and I'd happily take the Tigers. And Fordham is also a Top 25 team. The idiotic IL policies do these teams no favor with their spring football rules and limited scheduling. Princeton should be able to flex their muscles more regionally if nothing else....

[bonarae]

Give me Princeton -9.5 against Fordham and I'd happily take the Tigers. And Fordham is also a Top 25 team. The idiotic IL policies do these teams no favor with their spring football rules and limited scheduling. Princeton should be able to flex their muscles more regionally if nothing else....

Spring football rules? I think the Southern teams have an edge in this.
Limited scheduling? I have ranted this on here and rarely on the Ivy Voy board over a period of several years.

More regionally? I prefer cross-regional games with the likes of the Vandals, UC Davis, UIW, etc. I am sick and tired of Ivy League's scheduling model. xsmhx

[bonarae]

Final from Staten Island:
Wagner 37
LIU 26

(The live stats of Wagner is lost on me...)

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Final from Staten Island:
Wagner 37
LIU 26

(The live stats of Wagner is lost on me...)

The streak is over! Party on Staten Island!!

[SeattleCat]

UT-Martin is hanging tough with #3 Tennessee this morning. 14-7 with UTM driving. surprising because their QB does not look very good, not much on his passes.... Pick as i'm typing.

[crusader11]

Jackson St -17 today....WOW!

That's a ton of points.

[SeattleCat]

That pick took everything out of UTM 24-7 Volunteers.

[CenMEBlackBearFan]

Monmouth 14 Rhody 7, 1:58 left in the first
UNH7-Elon 0 , 2:11 left in the first

[mvfcfan]

Indiana State already down 0-13 against Illinois State

[ncspiderfan]

Monmouth 21 Rhode Island21 8:05 2nd
New Hampshire 21 Elon 7 7:33 2nd

[rtzlunar]

Chattanooga 17-0 over Mercer 1st quarter

[POD Knows]

Chatty putting a can of whoop ass on Mercer. 17-0 in Q1

[rtzlunar]

Mercer showing signs of life. 24-7 Mocs 2nd quarter

[POD Knows]

Mercer showing signs of life. 24-7 Mocs 2nd quarter
Hutchinson looks good for Chatty. First game I have seen for Chatty this year.

[POD Knows]

Hey. Watching the Chatty Mercer game and I hear cars honking, can you watch a game from your car at this place

[skinny_uncle]

Ill State 20 Indy State 7 at the half.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Indiana State already down 0-13 against Illinois State

ISUr up 20-7 at half.

Our kicking game is possibly the worst in FCS. Left 7 points on the field ... 2 easy FGs (neither missed .. 1 muffed and 1 blocked) and a blocked XP. We played well for most part other than that. Our pass game is firing today so far. We're finally starting to establish some WRs to match our stud TE Taula.

That said, ISUb is known for going down early and coming back .. stay tuned, we know they played their last 3 losses within a TD. They are a very tough 1-5 team .. and they're at home.

edit: stats finally loaded at half. ISUr Annexstad is 19-28 for 245 yards (2 TDs, 1 pick) at the half. ISUr hasn't seen that in a full game for a long time.

[ncspiderfan]

Richmond 17 Hampton 0 14:26 2nd

[ncspiderfan]

Richmond 17 Hampton 0 14:26 2nd

Rhode Island 28 Monmouth 24 10:35 3rd
New Hampshire 23 Elon 7 12:36 3rd
Richmond 17 Hampton 7 11:46 2nd

[SeattleCat]

3-0 Weber over Montana State. Pick by Weber sets them up at the 10 but the Bobcats hold for a FG.

[Milktruck74]

Hey. Watching the Chatty Mercer game and I hear cars honking, can you watch a game from your car at this place

I'll assume you are making a joke, but if not...its a train whistle!

[Redbird 4th & short]

ISUr defense gets a 3 and out to start half. We drives the field from 45 yard line with bunch of runs to the 2 yard line. Get sacked on 3rd down. Shanks a 30 yard FG.

Score still 20-7 .... kicking game has now left 10 points on the field.

edit: correction .. shanked 25 yd FG.

[skinny_uncle]

SIU 7 USD 0 on a Williams TD

[SeattleCat]

Bobcats with a Safety on weber after they hike out the back of the endzone on the punt. 3-2 Weber

[POD Knows]

I'll assume you are making a joke, but if not...its a train whistle!
LMFAO. sounds like car horns on TV. It wasn’t a joke and it doesn’t sound like a train whistle.

[SeattleCat]

Touchdown Tommy for 6! 9-3 Montana State!

[Redbird 4th & short]

ISUb scores again after midfield turnover.

ISUr now leads 20-13 with 3:18 in Q3 .. stats arent loading, but first downs are about 25 to 7, and were' only up 6. Our kicking game and 2 TOs are killing us. That and Spack went all conservative in 2nd half .. 28 passes in first half ... I think zero in 2nd half so far ???

[SeattleCat]

Weber answers and takes the kick to the house 10-9 Weber.

[skinny_uncle]

SIU 7 USD 7 on a Theis TD.

[WrenFGun]

UNH stops Elon on 4th down, it's 33-15 UNH with 845 to go in the 4th.

[JALMOND]

Big Sky scores

Portland State 14, Idaho 14 2 mins left 1st
Northern Arizona 3, Idaho State 0 End 1st
Weber State 10, Montana State 9 5:30 left 1st
UC Davis 6, Northern Colorado 3 2:30 left 1st

[skinny_uncle]

SIU 14 USD 7 on a pass to A. Cox.

[Redbird 4th & short]

whew ... big run by Wenkers Wright to 5, score 2 plays later AND AND AND, we actually converted the XP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ISUr leads 27-14 early in 4th.

[WrenFGun]

Absolute Statement from UNH today.

Laube breaks one for 80, 40-15 UNH.

[SeattleCat]

Weber takes a punt to the house as the Bobcats sleep through special teams 17-9.

[ncspiderfan]

Monmouth 35 Rhode Island 28 5:08 4th
Richmond 24 Hampton 10 Half
New Hampshire 40 Elon 15 6:28 4th

[UAalum72]

Nova gets a 70-yd run in the first 23 seconds, 7-0

[Grizalltheway]

24-9 Weber. Cats' offense isn't built to play from behind. This could (and hopefully will :D) get out of hand in a hurry.

[I Bleed Purple]

24-9 Weber. Cats' offense isn't built to play from behind. This could (and hopefully will :D) get out of hand in a hurry.

One can only hope.

[WrenFGun]

UNH is going to beat Elon, 40-22.

For the Rodney Dangerfield of FCS this year, it's time to get some credit.

[Redbird 4th & short]

whew ... big run by Wenkers Wright to 5, score 2 plays later AND AND AND, we actually converted the XP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ISUr leads 27-14 early in 4th.

Begs the question .. put aside horrendous placekicking game .. why wouldn't we got for 2 up 26-14 ?? They need two TDs either way at 27-14 or 26-14.

Ugh !

[Redbird 4th & short]

ISUb gets 67 yd catch and run TD.

Now ISUr 27-21 with 10:18 left in game.

[ncspiderfan]

Rhode Island and Monmouth to OT at 35 each

[bobcathpdevil56]

Special teams coach nightmare. Weber 24-MSU 11 after another safety on punt snap.

[Milktruck74]

FuBear, How will you spin this to keep the Mocs under Mercer and Furple in your power rankings?

[UAalum72]

18-yd TD pass to Hayek, 14-0 Nova 10:52 2nd

[ncspiderfan]

Rhode Island and Monmouth to OT at 35 each
Both score TD, 2OT

[skinny_uncle]

SIU 21 USD 7 TD pass to Miller.

[Milktruck74]

UTC 41
Mercer 21

9:00 to go and the Mocs are Driving...and FuBear is changing into his Purple shirt!

[JALMOND]

Big Sky score update

Portland State 14, Idaho 14, 5:46 left 2nd
Northern Arizona 17, Idaho State 7, 18 sec left 2nd
Weber State 24, Montana State 18, 2:34 left 2nd
UC Davis 20, Northern Colorado 3, 2:06 left 2nd

[bobcathpdevil56]

Another bad snap. 24-20 Weber over MSU

[Chalupa Batman]

Weber’s long snapper is single handily trying to keep Montana State in this game.

[bobcathpdevil56]

Three safeties off bad snaps to the punter

[JALMOND]

Weber’s long snapper is single handily trying to keep Montana State in this game.

Portland State didn't let Weber punt last week. Long snapper may be a bit rusty. :D

[skinny_uncle]

SIU 21 USD 10 right before the half.

[bobcathpdevil56]

MSU 27-Weber 24. Crazy crazy 1st half

[SeattleCat]

MSU 27-Weber 24. Crazy crazy 1st half
Craziest thing I've ever seen.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

UND up on SDSU 14-0

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

SDSU pick 6......UND 14-7

[ncspiderfan]

Rhode Island 48 Monmouth 46 Final 7OT

[JALMOND]

Halftime Big Sky scores

Portland State 21, Idaho 21 HALF
Northern Arizona 17, Idaho State 7 HALF
Montana State 27, Weber State 24 just before Half
UC Davis 27, Northern Colorado 3 HALF

[rtzlunar]

Final - Chattanooga 41 Mercer 21. Mercer QB Fred Peyton throwing picks like another Peyton that wore orange in big games.

[UAalum72]

20-yd pass to Pringle makes it 21-0, them Albany drives for a TD on a 26-yd pass to Easton with 6 seconds left.

21-7 Villanova at the half.

[skinny_uncle]

SIU 21 USD 17

[skinny_uncle]

SIU 24 USD 17

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

UND 21-7 over SDSU

[bobcathpdevil56]

Another punt safety. That’s 4 for the Bobcats. They score on the next drive. 36-24 MSU

[kdinva]

Weber’s long snapper is single handily trying to keep Montana State in this game.

i counted four so far.....8 gift points for mt.st.

[JALMOND]

Other Big Sky updates

Idaho 28, Portland State 21 7:31 left 3rd
Northern Arizona 24, Idaho State 7, 14:50 left 4th
UC Davis 41, Northern Colorado 3, End 3rd

[UAalum72]

Albany opens the 2nd half with a 71 yd drive in 7 minutes. 21-14 Nova

[skinny_uncle]

SIU 24 USD 24

[SeattleCat]

43-24 Montana State after a soul crushing drive.

[bobcathpdevil56]

43-24 MSU over Weber. Late 3rd quarter

- - - Updated - - -


43-24 Montana State after a soul crushing drive.

SeattleCat beat me to it

[UAalum72]

After a 73-yd punt pins Nova, Albany scores a safety on a sack. 21-16 Nova, 2:11 left in the 3rd

[JALMOND]

Big Sky updates

Idaho 35, Portland State 21, 22 secs left 3rd
Northern Arizona 24, Idaho State 10, 5:13 left 4th
UC Davis 48, Northern Colorado 10, 10:29 left 4th

[Chalupa Batman]

Helluva catch by the Weber State WR for a TD, 2 pointer good. 43-32 Montana State in the 3rd quarter in the shootout we all saw coming

[JALMOND]

Big Sky scores

Northern Arizona 24, Idaho State 10 FINAL
Idaho 42, Portland State 21, 10:32 left 4th
UC Davis 55, Northern Colorado 10, 4:05 left 4th

[bobcathpdevil56]

MSU 43-Weber 38 with 6 mins left. Gonna be a wild ending

[bonarae]

First update:
Jackson State 15, Campbell 7 6:15 left in regulation
Tennessee Tech 20, Kennesaw State 17 6:48 left in regulation
Yotes 24, Salukis 24 8:17 left
Tennessee State 37, EIU 14 9:59 left
Samford 41, ETSU 31 4:50 3Q
Maine 27, Stony Brook 21 start 4Q
UND 21, SDSU 14 14:52 3Q
YSU 10, WIU 7 13:46 3Q
UNI 14, Missouri State 0 start 2Q

[UAalum72]

After Albany misses a 27-yd field goal, Nova throws an 80-yd TD to Pringle. 28-16 Nova, 4:44 left

[skinny_uncle]

USD 27 SIU 24 final.

[bonarae]

UNI 17, Missouri State 0 7:58 2Q
Samford 48, ETSU 31 3:23 3Q
USD 27, SIU 24 2:31 left
UND 21, SDSU 21 11:48 3Q

[bonarae]

Holy Cross 17, Lafayette 14 start 4Q
Prairie View 27, Lamar 7 10:53 2Q

[bonarae]

Jackson State 22, Campbell 7 3:16 left
KSU 24, TTU 20 1:21 left

[bonarae]

Upset Alert

Lafayette 21, Holy Cross 17 13:32 4Q

[unknown-swac]

So much for Jackson St getting exposed today.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

USD beats SIU

[bonarae]

Jackson State 22, Campbell 7 FINAL
EKU 49, UNA 46 4:54 left
Tennessee State 37, EIU 14 5:01 left
UPSET - USD 27, SIU 24 FINAL
Tennessee Tech 27, KSU 24 27 seconds left in regulation
SDSU 28, UND 21 7:11 3Q
WIU 10, YSU 10 9:32 3Q
UNI 17, Missouri State 7 4:07 2Q

[bonarae]

Prairie View 27, Lamar 14 6:33 2Q

[UAalum72]

Albany TD pass with 1:54 left 28-23 Nova

[bonarae]

SDSU 35, UND 21 6:42 3Q

[bonarae]

W&M 37 Towson 10 14:26 4Q

- - - Updated - - -

Tennessee State 37, EIU 17 1:28 left

[UAalum72]

Albany recovers the onside kick.

[bonarae]

Stony Brook 28, Maine 27 5:48 left in regulation
Prairie View 34, Lamar 14 6:02 2Q

[bonarae]

Samford 48, ETSU 38 10:50 left
TTU 27, KSU 27 in 1st OT
W&M 37, Towson 17 10:24 left

- - - Updated - - -

UNA 53, EKU 49 30 seconds left (upset alert)

[bobcathpdevil56]

43-38 Bobcats win

[grizband]

43-38 Bobcats win
Take away three of those safeties, and Weber wins haha

[SeattleCat]

Take away three of those safeties, and Weber wins haha
4

[bonarae]

WIU 13, YSU 10 4:26 3Q

[UAalum72]

5-yd TD to Greaney, Albany leads with 0:53 left, 2 pt conversion fails, 29-28

[bonarae]

W&M 44, Towson 17 8:57 left
EKU 56, UNA 53 8 seconds left in regulation

[mvemjsunpx]

Jackson State 22, Campbell 7 FINAL

Live stats say 22-14 was the final (Campbell scored with 28 seconds left).

[bobcathpdevil56]

Take away three of those safeties, and Weber wins haha

Agreed. That was one of the weirdest/craziest games I’ve ever watched. Up there with Cat/Griz when the Griz fumbled on the goal line

[UAalum72]

Nova wins 31-29. Defensive Holding and PI penalties against Albany on the final drive.

[bonarae]

Kennesaw State 33, TTU 30 FINAL/OT
Samford 48, ETSU 45 8:24 left in regulation
UNI 24, Missouri State 7 halftime

[CopperCat]

Take away three of those safeties, and Weber wins haha

And if the refs call not one but TWO holding calls on kick returns, Cats win by 14.

[bonarae]

Holy Cross 24, Lafayette 21 4 minutes left in regulation
SFA 41, SUU 38 13 seconds left in regulation

[bonarae]

W&M 44, Towson 24 4:50 left
Prairie View 34, Lamar 21 1:13 2Q

[bonarae]

Samford 55, ETSU 45 5:24 left
Stony Brook 28, Maine 27 FINAL (Seawolves finally win)

[SeattleCat]

https://youtu.be/1z1VJOx3tOQ (https://youtu.be/1z1VJOx3tOQ)

[MSUBobcat]

Take away three of those safeties, and Weber wins haha

Give us... any ****ing call all game and the safeties don't matter.

[CopperCat]

Give us... any ****ing call all game and the safeties don't matter.

100% this.

[bonarae]

W&M 44, Towson 24 FINAL
SDSU 42, UND 21 10:26 4Q

- - - Updated - - -

Holy Cross 24, Lafayette 21 FINAL

[bonarae]

SDSU 49, UND 35 1:10 left
WIU 27, YSU 25 2:28 left
UNI 31, Missouri State 14 4:40 3Q
Prairie View 47, Lamar 21 7:05 3Q

[SeattleCat]

Sdsu and UND are trying to show up Montana State

[ncspiderfan]

Youngstown State 28 WIU 27 Final

Last play FG

[bonarae]

YSU 28, WIU 27 50 seconds left
SDSU 49, UND 35 FINAL

[bonarae]

UNI 38, Missouri State 14 14:50 4Q

[bonarae]

Gardner-Webb 13, Charleston Southern 7 start 3Q

[Kemo]

I just saw the box score for Montana State / Weber State.

The talk of the day is apparently the 4 safeties the Wildcats' punting unit gave up, but I want to know how MSU's QB rushed 32 times for 273 yards???!!!

[bonarae]

Gardner-Webb 20, Charleston Southern 7 8:40 3Q
UNI 41, Missouri State 20 4:15 left
Prairie View 54, Lamar 21 2:31 left

[bonarae]

CP 7, EWU 0 10:58 1Q

[bobcathpdevil56]

I just saw the box score for Montana State / Weber State.

The talk of the day is apparently the 4 safeties the Wildcats' punting unit gave up, but I want to know how MSU's QB rushed 32 times for 273 yards???!!!

Touchdown Tommy! You know him.

[rtzlunar]

So much for Jackson St getting exposed today.

Yes. An 8-point home win against a Big South team proves what a powerhouse Coach Prime has assembled. Sad when that’s JSU’s best win of the year.

[SFA 93]

SFA's WR Xavier Gipson 10 catches for 256 yards (26 yards a catch) and 2 TD's (school record)
SFA's RB Jerrell Wimbley 21 carries for 138 yards (6.6 yards a carry)

[Chalupa Batman]

https://youtu.be/1z1VJOx3tOQ (https://youtu.be/1z1VJOx3tOQ)


I've seen where schools let any student come in and try out for kicker, Weber should do the same for long snapper.

[Kemo]

Touchdown Tommy! You know him.

All too well... All too well...

[jacksfan29!]

I just saw the box score for Montana State / Weber State.

The talk of the day is apparently the 4 safeties the Wildcats' punting unit gave up, but I want to know how MSU's QB rushed 32 times for 273 yards???!!!

Weber defense not all it is cracked up to be. Huge holes.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Montana 7 Sac State 1:11 1Q

Not sure if the Hornets QB is going to last the game given the way he plays....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wow, Sac State just took out the Montana QB. Looked like a pretty blatant cheap shot....

[Chalupa Batman]

Montana's lucky that FG didn't get blocked and returned for a TD. Very nice bounce back effort from the Griz so far.

[Roamingriz]

The cheapest targeting I've seen this year.....

[Roamingriz]

It was just way late after the ball left his hand

[MSUBobcat]

It was just way late after the ball left his hand

It was straight dirty. The hit would have been a really late hit to begin with. But crowning him...

[Libertine]

I've seen where schools let any student come in and try out for kicker, Weber should do the same for long snapper.

How is there not another LS on the roster? I just can't believe they kept sending that kid out there. Isn't doing the same thing over and over expecting different results the definition of insanity?

[Roamingriz]

Sac is dirty

[Roamingriz]

Who hits a fair catcher these days?

[bonarae]

It's hard to rank the teams after the Jacks in our ballots....

Sac and Griz are tied 24-all, 3:39 left in regulation

[bonarae]

Looks like our last game of Week 8 may head into OT barring a long completion.

1:05 left in regulation, still 24 all

[bonarae]

10 seconds left in regulation, Montana calls a TO. Problem, Sac is still not within FG distance.

[bonarae]

Two timeouts left for each. Sac calls its own TO, four seconds left in regulation.

[bonarae]

One second left, Griz call time again, but Sac is still on the Griz 38.

[bonarae]

Wow. Griz pick off a Sac pass and it's end of regulation. 24-all is the score.

Glad I came back in time.

[bonarae]

It's the Griz's turn in the 1st OT now.

Sac 31, Griz 24

[bonarae]

Sac survives...

31-24 is the final score

[Roamingriz]

Whatever sac state. Happily see them with our whole team

[uofmman1122]

F&%$ Sac State and their cheap ass defense.

[bonarae]

F&%$ Sac State and their cheap ass defense.

Should the BSC suspend a handful of players, assistants and the DC of Sac State? xchinscratchx

[uofmman1122]

Should the BSC suspend a handful of players, assistants and the DC of Sac State? xchinscratchx
It's fine, they only needed to knock out our QB and get a terrible blown call in order to come back. This conference is a joke.

[uofmman1122]

What a ****ing joke. This was 4th down on a drive they scored a TD on after this by the way. Absolutely disgraceful.

https://twitter.com/Bwahlberg/status/1584064555281309701

[Ridge1982]

Never in my wildest dreams did I ever envision Lindenwood having a winning record this late in the season. I hope Stugart stays in St. Chuck for a long time.

[katss07]

Wait guys, does this win count for Sacramento State? Montana fans are telling me the REFS impacted the outcome. Maybe the game should be replayed. Too unfair to the Griz!

[BS50]

Never in my wildest dreams did I ever envision Lindenwood having a winning record this late in the season. I hope Stugart stays in St. Chuck for a long time.

He's done an amazing job. Officially 4-2 vs the D1 teams on their schedule so guaranteed a winning record vs them. I would expect them to win their 2 D2 games so looking at a 7 or 8 win season (TTU will be tougher than their last 3 games)

Exceeded my expectations for sure. And I have to emphasize again, this is a D2 built team. Overall the bodies on the roster are smaller than the teams they're playing.

You do have to worry about Jed sticking around. Northern Colorado will be lurking this year in sure if the part ways with McCaffery. They're the elephant in the Lindenwood room. I hope that LU now being on equal footing divisionally, and seeing the incredible support from the school and community helps him feel like this is the place to be for the long haul!

[Ridge1982]

Hopefully the new AD and Porter will have their replacement in place should that happens.

[Ridge1982]

…and what Lindenwood has over Northern Colorado are a talent rich metro area, facilities, and they don’t play in the Big Sky.

[BS50]

…and what Lindenwood has over Northern Colorado are a talent rich metro area, facilities, and they don’t play in the Big Sky.

Agreed. But there are personal factors at play here. The job would have no shortage of highly qualified candidates should it come open. But I hope it doesn't. I really feel like we have the right man in place to do some special things in the very near future.

[Redbird 4th & short]

horrendous obviously ... but did it get reviewed and still not get overturned ?


What a ****ing joke. This was 4th down on a drive they scored a TD on after this by the way. Absolutely disgraceful.

https://twitter.com/Bwahlberg/status/1584064555281309701

[uofmman1122]

horrendous obviously ... but did it get reviewed and still not get overturned ?
Yes, reviewed with supposedly every camera angle ESPN2 had available, but still stood as called. It is what it is, but we played well enough to win that game, so hopefully we can use this as fuel to win out.

[Catbooster]

horrendous obviously ... but did it get reviewed and still not get overturned ?
Yes. Apparently the Big Sky limits reviews to a certain number of cameras/angles. They don't want a game televised on ESPN, with lots of different cameras, to have an "advantage" over a game that's just being streamed by the school with relatively few camera angles. Gotta keep things "fair".

This is apparently from an "extra" camera angle that the officials can't use in their review. From other angles it was not obvious enough to overturn the ruling on the field.

[Catbooster]

Yes, reviewed with supposedly every camera angle ESPN2 had available, but still stood as called. It is what it is, but we played well enough to win that game, so hopefully we can use this as fuel to win out.
Are you sure?

I've heard they don't use every camera angle (as posted above). Maybe I heard wrong?

[uofmman1122]

Are you sure?

I've heard they don't use every camera angle (as posted above). Maybe I heard wrong?
Kent Haslam said in an interview that they have access to all the camera angles from ESPN. So maybe he’s wrong, but I dunno why he’d say that if it wasn’t the case.

[MSUBobcat]

Kent Haslam said in an interview that they have access to all the camera angles from ESPN. So maybe he’s wrong, but I dunno why he’d say that if it wasn’t the case.

According to the article on 406 MT Sports (https://406mtsports.com/college/big-sky-conference/university-of-montana/big-sky-commissioner-offers-lackluster-response-about-week-8-officiating/article_f56caa02-53ea-11ed-b7a9-cb1c2f820664.html), he said he's always been "taught" the officiating crew has the same angles as ESPN. I don't know where that teaching came from, or if it's correct, but doesn't sound like he was 100% confident he was correct, either.

Edit: I don't know if this partnership (https://bigskyconf.com/news/2015/7/17/MBB_0717155020.aspx) is still in effect, but it would seem to support Catbooster's assertion that all BSC games utilize the same equipment/angles, regardless of if ESPN is covering it with more cameras. And the thinking is sound, IMO. If there are 2 identical plays (extreme hypothetical here), one shouldn't be ruled one way because it was on ESPN and the other ruled another because it wasn't. Everyone gets the same quality of review, which under the NCAA rulebook Rule 12, Section 4, Article 2a, "The type of equipment used to carry out necessary instant replay duties shall be determined by each conference." The equipment has nothing to do with ESPN from what I can gather.

[Catbooster]

Kent Haslam said in an interview that they have access to all the camera angles from ESPN. So maybe he’s wrong, but I dunno why he’d say that if it wasn’t the case.
Well, I'd probably go with what Haslam said (even if he is a Griz) rather than what I read/heard since I can't remember the source. Your AD should know better than what was possibly some rando on the internet.

[Catbooster]

According to the article on 406 MT Sports (https://406mtsports.com/college/big-sky-conference/university-of-montana/big-sky-commissioner-offers-lackluster-response-about-week-8-officiating/article_f56caa02-53ea-11ed-b7a9-cb1c2f820664.html), he said he's always been "taught" the officiating crew has the same angles as ESPN. I don't know where that teaching came from, or if it's correct, but doesn't sound like he was 100% confident he was correct, either.

Edit: I don't know if this partnership (https://bigskyconf.com/news/2015/7/17/MBB_0717155020.aspx) is still in effect, but it would seem to support Catbooster's assertion that all BSC games utilize the same equipment/angles, regardless of if ESPN is covering it with more cameras. And the thinking is sound, IMO. If there are 2 identical plays (extreme hypothetical here), one shouldn't be ruled one way because it was on ESPN and the other ruled another because it wasn't. Everyone gets the same quality of review, which under the NCAA rulebook Rule 12, Section 4, Article 2a, "The type of equipment used to carry out necessary instant replay duties shall be determined by each conference." The equipment has nothing to do with ESPN from what I can gather.

I don't know. I read/heard it somewhere - to paraphrase: to ensure consistency and fairness all Big Sky games use the same angles for replays (all of the schools have those angles) regardless whether television provides some additional angles.

Personally, I think that's stupid. Shouldn't we try to be as accurate as possible rather than limit some sites so they're not more accurate than others? Use what you've got to try to get the best call.

But I can't recall where I saw/heard it - if I would have guessed I'd have said Colter on a podcast, but that's a guess. Quite possible it was some tweet or a random post on a message board. It's easy to believe that the camera angles are limited because it allows us to explain the clip in Brint's tweet, which seems fairly clear that he was out of bounds. But I don't know the source and Haslam should know.

[uofmman1122]

According to the article on 406 MT Sports (https://406mtsports.com/college/big-sky-conference/university-of-montana/big-sky-commissioner-offers-lackluster-response-about-week-8-officiating/article_f56caa02-53ea-11ed-b7a9-cb1c2f820664.html), he said he's always been "taught" the officiating crew has the same angles as ESPN. I don't know where that teaching came from, or if it's correct, but doesn't sound like he was 100% confident he was correct, either.

Edit: I don't know if this partnership (https://bigskyconf.com/news/2015/7/17/MBB_0717155020.aspx) is still in effect, but it would seem to support Catbooster's assertion that all BSC games utilize the same equipment/angles, regardless of if ESPN is covering it with more cameras. And the thinking is sound, IMO. If there are 2 identical plays (extreme hypothetical here), one shouldn't be ruled one way because it was on ESPN and the other ruled another because it wasn't. Everyone gets the same quality of review, which under the NCAA rulebook Rule 12, Section 4, Article 2a, "The type of equipment used to carry out necessary instant replay duties shall be determined by each conference." The equipment has nothing to do with ESPN from what I can gather.
But you're likely getting two different Ref crews making subjective calls based on what they're seeing, so this idea of "fairness in consistency" is silly. The goal should be to get it correct. A system where one call of an identical play is incorrect due to limited tech, while another is correct due to better angles is infinitely superior to a system where both calls are incorrect because to has to be "fair".

Not saying this at you, but just this idea that this is what the BSC should be striving for.

I also agree with Catbooster that I've heard this on message boards and twitter before, but not from any single source. It seems to me that Haslam should know.

[MSUBobcat]

But you're likely getting two different Ref crews making subjective calls based on what they're seeing, so this idea of "fairness in consistency" is silly. The goal should be to get it correct. A system where one call of an identical play is incorrect due to limited tech, while another is correct due to better angles is infinitely superior to a system where both calls are incorrect because to has to be "fair".

Not saying this at you, but just this idea that this is what the BSC should be striving for.

I also agree with Catbooster that I've heard this on message boards and twitter before, but not from any single source. It seems to me that Haslam should know.

I don't disagree that the overall goal should be getting it right, 100%. FWIW, in the hypothetical, all else would be equal except for the number of cameras. Think of it as if ESPN had planned to broadcast but something kept the camera crew from making it. You wouldn't have known there were better angles. My inference from the conference hiring DVSports to handle the instant replay for the entire conference, the placement would be standardized, i.e. no "if this had happened at Stadium X instead of Stadium Y, the call would have been overturned because they put their camera HERE and you put it THERE."

Also in the rulebook under Article 3. Location, "All equipment used to review a play during the replay processand the personnel using that equipment shall be located in a separate, securelocation in the press box. This room shall not be available or accessible to anyperson not directly involved in instant replay." ESPN's equipment likely would not be hooked up to the secured equipment used to review.

Again, I'm not arguing for less ability to review. I'm just a layperson trying to interpret the rulebook and the actions of the conference in hiring a 3rd party to handle IR, and I can see where Haslam may be incorrect that all TV angles are available the review team. I will happily accept being wrong if this is not the case.

[WE_ARE_LIONS]

I don't disagree that the overall goal should be getting it right, 100%. FWIW, in the hypothetical, all else would be equal except for the number of cameras. Think of it as if ESPN had planned to broadcast but something kept the camera crew from making it. You wouldn't have known there were better angles. My inference from the conference hiring DVSports to handle the instant replay for the entire conference, the placement would be standardized, i.e. no "if this had happened at Stadium X instead of Stadium Y, the call would have been overturned because they put their camera HERE and you put it THERE."

Also in the rulebook under Article 3. Location, "All equipment used to review a play during the replay processand the personnel using that equipment shall be located in a separate, securelocation in the press box. This room shall not be available or accessible to anyperson not directly involved in instant replay." ESPN's equipment likely would not be hooked up to the secured equipment used to review.

Again, I'm not arguing for less ability to review. I'm just a layperson trying to interpret the rulebook and the actions of the conference in hiring a 3rd party to handle IR, and I can see where Haslam may be incorrect that all TV angles are available the review team. I will happily accept being wrong if this is not the case.

I like the way you worded that, and it describes my agreement better than I may have otherwise said it. What happens if a program contending for a playoff spot (but with less overall clout) lost on an incorrect call because less angles are available, while a traditional power won because extra angles provided better context for a big ref decision? In this case, I believe making it fair across each program is the lesser of two evils.

[uofmman1122]

I don't disagree that the overall goal should be getting it right, 100%. FWIW, in the hypothetical, all else would be equal except for the number of cameras. Think of it as if ESPN had planned to broadcast but something kept the camera crew from making it. You wouldn't have known there were better angles. My inference from the conference hiring DVSports to handle the instant replay for the entire conference, the placement would be standardized, i.e. no "if this had happened at Stadium X instead of Stadium Y, the call would have been overturned because they put their camera HERE and you put it THERE."

Also in the rulebook under Article 3. Location, "All equipment used to review a play during the replay processand the personnel using that equipment shall be located in a separate, securelocation in the press box. This room shall not be available or accessible to anyperson not directly involved in instant replay." ESPN's equipment likely would not be hooked up to the secured equipment used to review.

Again, I'm not arguing for less ability to review. I'm just a layperson trying to interpret the rulebook and the actions of the conference in hiring a 3rd party to handle IR, and I can see where Haslam may be incorrect that all TV angles are available the review team. I will happily accept being wrong if this is not the case.
I'm just not sure what cameras would they be using otherwise? I don't think this conference and its schools have the money to have separate cameras and operators on each site every week. My assumption is they use the game feeds. Also, as I said, the stadiums are different with the same numbers of cameras, anyways. They're different because they have different ref crews working different games making calls in a subjective manner. It's never going to be "equal" in any sense, and so the idea that you force "equality" at the expense of accuracy just seems stupid to me.


I like the way you worded that, and it describes my agreement better than I may have otherwise said it. What happens if a program contending for a playoff spot (but with less overall clout) lost on an incorrect call because less angles are available, while a traditional power won because extra angles provided better context for a big ref decision? In this case, I believe making it fair across each program is the lesser of two evils.
Why are you assuming this benefits one team? Better/more cameras at Montana doesn't solely benefit Montana. You can see this as the teams playing in Greeley get screwed over because they don't have cameras, but I see it as it's the teams in Missoula getting screwed over because they have the ability to be more accurate, but don't because "if we mess up in Greeley, we must also mess up in Missoula".

And I still haven't really seen something saying this is even true -- that they don't use every angle available. "It's a third party company running everything" doesn't mean anything. It's incredibly easy to split feeds and use them in a "secured" room that only this company has access to.

Anyways, if they didn't have access to the views everyone saw during the game, that's stupid, IMO, but nothing we can do. If they did, it's a ****ty way to lose a game, but we had other chances, too. I still just don't think "make it worse for everyone" is a good solution.