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gophoenix
October 21st, 2007, 09:24 PM
SoCon the best again?

1 SOUTHEASTERN = 80.76
2 BIG EAST = 79.21
3 PAC-10 = 78.20
4 BIG 12 = 78.18
5 ATLANTIC COAST = 77.36
6 BIG TEN = 75.37
7 MOUNTAIN WEST = 69.08
8 I-A INDEPENDENTS = 65.13
9 WESTERN ATHLETIC = 62.50
10 MID-AMERICAN = 61.02
11 SOUTHERN = 58.87
12 CONFERENCE USA = 58.60
13 COLONIAL = 56.87
14 GATEWAY = 56.30
15 SUN BELT = 56.11
16 GREAT WEST = 52.84
17 BIG SKY = 45.33
18 SOUTHLAND = 45.00
19 PATRIOT LEAGUE = 44.38
20 SOUTHWESTERN = 43.23
21 IVY LEAGUE = 43.11
22 MID-EASTERN = 40.95
23 BIG SOUTH = 38.92
24 OHIO VALLEY = 38.26
25 PIONEER = 34.25
26 I-AA INDEPENDENTS = 30.15
27 NORTHEAST = 29.50
28 METRO ATLANTIC = 18.34

appstate38
October 21st, 2007, 09:26 PM
Get ready for the CAA boys to pitch a holy fit over this one..... Are you ready??? Here is comes.

gophoenix
October 21st, 2007, 09:29 PM
Sagarin I-AA top 25:

41 Northern Iowa
50 North Dakota State
69 UMass
71 App St
73 Southern Illinois
77 Elon
79 Yale
82 McNeese St
84 Wofford
88 James Madison
96 New Hampshire
98 Delaware
99 Richmond
101 Georgia Southern
106 Montana
108 Villanova
114 Hofstra
115 Holy Cross
118 Grambling St
121 Youngstown St
123 Eastern kentucky
124 Western Illinois
127 South Dakota State
129 Eastern Washington
131 The Citadel

gophoenix
October 21st, 2007, 09:30 PM
Get ready for the CAA boys to pitch a holy fit over this one..... Are you ready??? Here is comes.

I posted it for the discussion. Every week the Sagarin had been posted before this time.... but this week it wasn't.

DOME
October 21st, 2007, 11:04 PM
Panthers keep climbing peg by peg, 15 more spots to go :)

terrierbob
October 21st, 2007, 11:14 PM
Elon deserves it.

CatFan22
October 21st, 2007, 11:38 PM
Elon deserves it.

Deserves what?

UNHWildCats
October 22nd, 2007, 01:07 AM
I wont complain about the conference rankings. The CAA and Southern are both rocking along.... I can see them combining for a good chunk of the at larges

Peems
October 22nd, 2007, 01:09 AM
I don't see how Ga. Southern jumped so high by beating App.?

UMass922
October 22nd, 2007, 02:16 AM
Get ready for the CAA boys to pitch a holy fit over this one..... Are you ready??? Here is comes.

What's there to pitch a holy fit over? Looks about right to me.

Dukie95
October 22nd, 2007, 08:40 AM
At first, I was a little surprised to see Elon rise that high, and App St. not fall. But, Elon and GSU have just joined the Wofford/ASU party of riding the Michigan win.

Conference strength is determined by OOC schedule. App St. has the granddaddy of OOC wins and now three other teams in the SoCon have either beaten App St. or beaten teams that beat App St.

Meanwhile, JMU's two OOC wins (VMI & CCU) have both lost to PU....at home. :( That's one stinky OOC schedule. ;)

th0m
October 22nd, 2007, 08:58 AM
Didn't expect Elon to be this high, but they certainly deserve it.

OhioHen
October 22nd, 2007, 08:59 AM
I don't see how Ga. Southern jumped so high by beating App.?

Because ASU beat Michigan. Pre-season bias in the system plus recent Michigan wins over "major" college programs keeps ASU's rating high which in turn helps the ratings of anyone who beats them.

UDBlueLotFan
October 22nd, 2007, 09:08 AM
I consider UD's OCC a "push." Navy cancels out West Chester(DII) and Monmouth. Dukie, wouldn't consider CCU a weak OCC team; just a down year for them.

gophoenix
October 22nd, 2007, 09:27 AM
At first, I was a little surprised to see Elon rise that high, and App St. not fall. But, Elon and GSU have just joined the Wofford/ASU party of riding the Michigan win.

Conference strength is determined by OOC schedule. App St. has the granddaddy of OOC wins and now three other teams in the SoCon have either beaten App St. or beaten teams that beat App St.

Meanwhile, JMU's two OOC wins (VMI & CCU) have both lost to PU....at home. :( That's one stinky OOC schedule. ;)

I don't think it is just that. The App over Michigan win is proving valuable, but App also beat Elon by more than South Florida did. And considering Elon held a South Florida team down more than many I-As are doing is helping too.

th0m
October 22nd, 2007, 09:43 AM
Conference strength is determined by OOC schedule. App St. has the granddaddy of OOC wins and now three other teams in the SoCon have either beaten App St. or beaten teams that beat App St.

Actually:

Teams that have beaten ASU:

Wofford
GSU

Teams that have beaten Wofford or GSU:

Elon (beat both, actually)
Chattanooga

DetroitFlyer
October 22nd, 2007, 10:22 AM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt07.htm

1. Northern Iowa
2. North Dakota State
3. Massachusetts
4. Appalachian State
5. Southern Illinois
6. Elon
7. Yale
8. McNeese State
9. Wofford
10. James Madison
11. New Hampshire
12. Delaware
13. Richmond
14. Georgia Southern
15. Montana
16. Villanova
17. Hofstra
18. Holy Cross
19. Grambling
20. Youngstown State
21. Eastern Kentucky
22. Western Illinois
23. South Dakota State
24. Eastern Washington
25. Citadel
26. Alabama A&M
27. Norfolk State
28. SC State
29. Illinois State
30. San Diego
31. Furman
32. Harvard
33. Montana State
34. Nicholls State
35. Delaware State
36. Chattanooga
37. William & Mary
38. UC Davis
39. Liberty
40. Jackson State
41. Missouri State
42. Southern University
43. Cal Poly-SLO
44. Northern Arizona
45. Lehigh
46. Fordham
47. Jacksonville State
48. Sam Houston State
49. Central Arkansas
50. Cornell
51. Towson
52. Colgate
53. Albany (NY)
54. Prairie View A&M
55. Northeastern
56. Hampton
57. Eastern Illinois
58. Gardner-Webb
59. Portland State
60. Dayton
61. Texas State
62. Rhode Island
63. Tennessee State
64. Western Carolina
65. Stony Brook
66. Pennsylvania
67. Lafayette
68. Sacramento State
69. Alabama State
70. Central Connecticut
71. Drake
72. Southern Utah
73. Weber State
74. Iona
75. Coastal Carolina
76. Dartmouth
77. Brown
78. Winston-Salem State
79. Florida A&M
80. SE Louisiana
81. Maine
82. Idaho State
83. Austin Peay
84. Morgan State
85. Northwestern State
86. Ark.-Pine Bluff
87. Miss. Valley State
88. Presbyterian
89. Princeton
90. Davidson
91. Tennessee-Martin
92. Howard
93. Wagner
94. Samford
95. Morehead State
96. Tennessee Tech
97. Bethune-Cookman
98. Bucknell
99. Charleston Southern
100. Stephen F. Austin
101. Alcorn State
102. Murray State
103. VMI
104. Monmouth-NJ
105. Georgetown
106. SE Missouri State
107. NC Central
108. Jacksonville
109. Columbia
110. Robert Morris
111. Duquesne
112. Northern Colorado
113. Valparaiso
114. Texas Southern
115. NC A&T
116. Indiana State
117. Butler
118. Sacred Heart
119. St. Francis-Pa.
120. Marist
121. Savannah State
122. La Salle


PFL Teams:

30. San Diego
60. Dayton
71. Drake
90. Davidson
95. Morehead State
108. Jacksonville
113. Valparaiso
117. Butler


Potential Future PFL Teams:

74. Iona
120. Marist
122. La Salle

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc07.htm

Conferences:

1. SOUTHERN
2. COLONIAL
3. GATEWAY
4. GREAT WEST
5. BIG SKY
6. SOUTHLAND
7. PATRIOT LEAGUE
8. SOUTHWESTERN
9. IVY LEAGUE
10. MID-EASTERN
11. BIG SOUTH
12. OHIO VALLEY
13. PIONEER
14. I-AA INDEPENDENTS
15. NORTHEAST
16. METRO ATLANTIC


For "Honor"

13. PFL
15. NEC

furman94
October 22nd, 2007, 10:25 AM
Wow, this has to be the highest Elon has been in the polls in the history of the program!

Go Dins! Beat App!
Go BoSox! Beat Colorado!