Playoffs: Top 8 Seeds? [Archive] - AnyGivenSaturday.com

FUBeAR

October 9th, 2022, 07:49 AM

We’re about 1/2way thru the season. Never too early to start thinking about Playoffs: Top 8 Seeds.

Here’s what Mr. Massey thinks…

https://i.postimg.cc/mZjQK1jw/F0-CD1-AA5-3721-42-E1-B9-E3-350-AD84-EAACD.png

#1 - Weber State
#2 - Sacramento State
#3 - South Dakota State
#4 - Montana
#5 - North Dakota State
#6 - Montana State
#7 - Holy Cross
#8 - Mercer

Everyone good with these?

Houndawg

October 9th, 2022, 07:58 AM

We’re about 1/2way thru the season. Never too early to start thinking about Playoffs: Top 8 Seeds.

Here’s what Mr. Massey thinks…

https://i.postimg.cc/mZjQK1jw/F0-CD1-AA5-3721-42-E1-B9-E3-350-AD84-EAACD.png

#1 - Weber State
#2 - Sacramento State
#3 - South Dakota State
#4 - Montana
#5 - North Dakota State
#6 - Montana State
#7 - Holy Cross
#8 - Mercer

Everyone good with these?

its week six, means nothing right now

FUBeAR

October 9th, 2022, 08:52 AM

its week six, means nothing right now
So, you don’t like the Salukis @ #9 then?

caribbeanhen

October 9th, 2022, 11:13 AM

How does Princeton go up 13 spots by beating Lafayette?

Gil Dobie

October 9th, 2022, 11:15 AM

Switch Montana St and NDSU at this point of the season.

grizband

October 9th, 2022, 02:52 PM

Here's where Sagarin has the top 8 FCS teams ranked (numbers in parentheses are overall Sagarin ranking).

1. Montana (72)
2. North Dakota State (77)
3. Sacramento State (82)
4. South Dakota State (85)
5. Weber State (90)
6. Mercer (106)
7. Montana State (118)
8. Incarnate Word (120)

MSUBobcat

October 9th, 2022, 03:01 PM

Here's where Sagarin has the top 8 FCS teams ranked (numbers in parentheses are overall Sagarin ranking).

1. Montana (72)
2. North Dakota State (77)
3. Sacramento State (85)
4. Weber State (90)
5. Mercer (106)
6. Montana State (118)
7. Incarnate Word (118)
8. Holy Cross (125)

Sac is actually 82. SDSU is 85 and would be 4th in Sagarin.

grizband

October 9th, 2022, 03:09 PM

Sac is actually 82. SDSU is 85 and would be 4th in Sagarin.
You are correct; I have updated my original post. Something seemed off, it was obviously that I omitted SDSU.

FUBeAR

October 9th, 2022, 06:32 PM

Here's where Sagarin has the top 8 FCS teams ranked (numbers in parentheses are overall Sagarin ranking).

1. Montana (72)
2. North Dakota State (77)
3. Sacramento State (82)
4. South Dakota State (85)
5. Weber State (90)
6. Mercer (106)
7. Montana State (118)
8. Incarnate Word (120)
So, unless FUBeAR is misreading these rankings … (or is misunderstanding Catholic org structures)… the primary difference in the Top 8 is that…

…Sagarin is Benedictine & Massey is Jesuit?

FUBeAR

October 9th, 2022, 07:31 PM

Here's where Sagarin has the top 8 FCS teams ranked (numbers in parentheses are overall Sagarin ranking).

1. Montana (72)
2. North Dakota State (77)
3. Sacramento State (82)
4. South Dakota State (85)
5. Weber State (90)
6. Mercer (106)
7. Montana State (118)
8. Incarnate Word (120)
Looking at it here - http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm and seeing it a little differently…

1. Montana (72)
2. North Dakota State (77)
3. Sacramento State (82)
4. South Dakota State (85)
5. Weber State (90)
6. Mercer (106)
7. Southern Illinois (112)
8. Montana State (118)

Salukis in; Cardinals (non-Jesuits) out…

Yes?

UNHWildcat18

October 9th, 2022, 07:36 PM

How does Princeton go up 13 spots by beating Lafayette?

Yet UNH goes down -8 for winning a game vs SBU to contrast Fordham went +5 for beating Lehigh……. I don’t understand how this stuff works sometimes.

As far as the. 1-8 seeding, just too early for now.

acbearkat

October 9th, 2022, 07:44 PM

Yet UNH goes down -8 for winning a game vs SBU to contrast Fordham went +5 for beating Lehigh……. I don’t understand how this stuff works sometimes.

As far as the. 1-8 seeding, just too early for now.

I agree it's too early right now. I'll try to catch some FCS action this weekend. I haven't watched much so far this year. Yesterday, I was celebrating that Texas beatdown of Oklahoma. The broadcast quality for the Sam Houston home games has been abysmal.

ElCid

October 9th, 2022, 08:18 PM

Yet UNH goes down -8 for winning a game vs SBU to contrast Fordham went +5 for beating Lehigh……. I don’t understand how this stuff works sometimes.

As far as the. 1-8 seeding, just too early for now.

Yeah but I know you know it isn't just this week's games. But the games that happened last week and the week before, etc . Fordham may have gone up for how all their other opponents did. NH moved down for the same reason. I'm certain that W Mich getting thumped by E Mich, after W. Mich thumped NH last week, cost a few of those spots. Good news is that is works in both directions.

FUBeAR

October 9th, 2022, 10:35 PM

HeroSports’ Sam Herder says these are the Top 8 at this point in the season…

https://herosports.com/fcs-top-25-sam-herder-ballot-10-10-2022-bzbz/?fbclid=IwAR2-PRnZGLjMqhOVbBKXMIJ5Y8U6jbpw4eaRe8MOg4riaXAOwxZW7_ E2KKQ

1. North Dakota State
2. South Dakota State
3. Montana
4. Montana State
5. Weber State
6. Sacramento State
7. Mercer
8. Holy Cross

caribbeanhen

October 10th, 2022, 06:13 AM

Yet UNH goes down -8 for winning a game vs SBU to contrast Fordham went +5 for beating Lehigh……. I don’t understand how this stuff works sometimes.

As far as the. 1-8 seeding, just too early for now.

Richmond shredded Stony Brook by like 42 points ... New Hampshire only beat them by 10

Milktruck74

October 10th, 2022, 06:11 PM

Oh my little Fubby- As a man who spent enough a miserable existence reading scientific studies and trying to torture the data to say what I wanted it to say, I can spot the flaw in your logic from Johnson City. If you are going to rely on Mr. Massey to predict the top 8 in FCS, you must actually open the schedule for you little Cronic Bears and see what Mr. Massey has to say about their W-L Record. My Massey currently has them at 50% vs the Mocs, but he has the final score as the Mocs by 1...So, you think a Mercer team that is not going to win the conference (according to Mr Massey) is going to be seeded ahead of the team that beat them head to head and actually took the SoCon AQ? I'll give you a minute or two so you can spin this!!! And Go Mocs!

mmiller_34

October 10th, 2022, 06:15 PM

Any of those other 7 schools would beat SDSU by at least 20.

The #March is on.

FUBeAR

October 10th, 2022, 07:46 PM

Oh my little Fubby- As a man who spent enough a miserable existence reading scientific studies and trying to torture the data to say what I wanted it to say, I can spot the flaw in your logic from Johnson City. If you are going to rely on Mr. Massey to predict the top 8 in FCS, you must actually open the schedule for you little Cronic Bears and see what Mr. Massey has to say about their W-L Record. My Massey currently has them at 50% vs the Mocs, but he has the final score as the Mocs by 1...So, you think a Mercer team that is not going to win the conference (according to Mr Massey) is going to be seeded ahead of the team that beat them head to head and actually took the SoCon AQ? I'll give you a minute or two so you can spin this!!! And Go Mocs!

Mr. Massey thinks - present tense, certain. This is what Mr. Massey thinks today; the day FUBeAR started this thread. These are Mr. Massey’s Top 8 Teams.

As you know, the current virtual toss-up projection for the 10/22 contest between the Bears & Mocs very well may change after the ETSU @ Mercer & VMI @ Chattanooga games this weekend. Correspondingly, Mr. Massey’s Top 8 Teams may change as well.

If either or both of these do change, please feel free to update this thread accordingly.

In the interim…

…Mercer is Mr. Massey’s #8 Seed …

…and…

…Chattanooga will be hoping they don’t have to spend Thanksgiving weekend in New Hampshire…

…well, that’s only if the Mocs don’t quit before the season ends…”quit” with or without playing their final 1-3 games … as they’ve done the past 2 seasons.

The Cats

October 11th, 2022, 08:05 AM

Just a little early to project the top 8 seeds, except to give folks something to argue about...

FUBeAR

October 11th, 2022, 08:24 AM

Just a little early to project the top 8 seeds, except to give folks something to argue about...
You say “argue.”

FUBeAR says “discuss.”

Others may say “debate.”

Any of those wrong?

Sitting Bull

October 11th, 2022, 08:31 AM

I would think eventually, as the season moves on, that a CAA team breaks into one of the top 8 seeds. Likely will come in part from the intra conference games/attrition in the Big Sky and MV. Would be strange if not. Not sure it’s ever happened before.

MR. CHICKEN

October 11th, 2022, 09:05 AM

I would think eventually, as the season moves on, that a CAA team breaks into one of the top 8 seeds. Likely will come in part from the intra conference games/attrition in the Big Sky and MV. Would be strange if not. Not sure it’s ever happened before.

...ONE EXAMPLE..........WEBER.....HAS MONTANA STATE/MONTANA/SAC ST...........BACK TA BACK TA BACK..........xeekx.......AWK!

FUBeAR

October 11th, 2022, 10:27 AM

...ONE EXAMPLE..........WEBER.....HAS MONTANA STATE/MONTANA/SAC ST...........BACK TA BACK TA BACK..........xeekx.......AWK!
Somehow…all 4 of those Teams will get wins in each of those games and they’ll all 4 be seeded with 10-1 records. Big Sky does some kind of Voodoo / Mind Masking on their records to make losses vanish. Happens every year.

MSUBobcat

October 11th, 2022, 11:02 AM

Just a little early to project the top 8 seeds, except to give folks something to argue about...

You get the hell off this forum with that kind of attitude!!!

MSUBobcat

October 11th, 2022, 11:17 AM

...ONE EXAMPLE..........WEBER.....HAS MONTANA STATE/MONTANA/SAC ST...........BACK TA BACK TA BACK..........xeekx.......AWK!

Montana has Sac, Weber and MSU from Oct 22 to Nov 19, all road games (and Idaho and EWU at home). Sac still has @Weber and UM (and Davis and EWU). MSU has Weber and UM both at home. I only messed around with it for a minute or two, but I can't find a combo that at least one of the four doesn't end with 2 conference losses. MSU has the "easiest" route to the conference championship, as we have WSU and UM both at home and have already played Davis and EWU. Our other games are road games at NoCo, NAU and Poly which are all in the bottom 4 of the conference (ISU-o being the other bottom feeder).

The Cats

October 11th, 2022, 12:16 PM

You get the hell off this forum with that kind of attitude!!!

I'll leave right behind you.

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You get the hell off this forum with that kind of attitude!!!

I'll leave right behind you.

MSUBobcat

October 11th, 2022, 01:02 PM

I'll leave right behind you.

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I'll leave right behind you.

Comment so nice you left it twice, eh?

I recognize that without debating current week rankings, this forum would be pretty bland, so I think I'll stay.

Chalupa Batman

October 11th, 2022, 01:30 PM

Montana has Sac, Weber and MSU from Oct 22 to Nov 19, all road games (and Idaho and EWU at home). Sac still has @Weber and UM (and Davis and EWU). MSU has Weber and UM both at home. I only messed around with it for a minute or two, but I can't find a combo that at least one of the four doesn't end with 2 conference losses. MSU has the "easiest" route to the conference championship, as we have WSU and UM both at home and have already played Davis and EWU. Our other games are road games at NoCo, NAU and Poly which are all in the bottom 4 of the conference (ISU-o being the other bottom feeder).

There's 5 games among the top 4 of the Big Sky, so at least 1 team is guaranteed 2 losses. It's also entirely possible that Sac State & Montana State both finish 8-0 as their schedules are way more manageable, they don't have any back-to-backs against the other top 4 teams like Montana & Weber do. Weber has the toughest stretch of all, starting 10/22 they have @MSU then Montana & Sac State at home in 3 consecutive weekends.

WestCoastAggie

October 11th, 2022, 01:35 PM

HeroSports’ Sam Herder says these are the Top 8 at this point in the season…

https://herosports.com/fcs-top-25-sam-herder-ballot-10-10-2022-bzbz/?fbclid=IwAR2-PRnZGLjMqhOVbBKXMIJ5Y8U6jbpw4eaRe8MOg4riaXAOwxZW7_ E2KKQ

1. North Dakota State
2. South Dakota State
3. Montana
4. Montana State
5. Weber State
6. Sacramento State
7. Mercer
8. Holy Cross

I can't see one conference hogging half of the seeds. I also see the CAA champ being seeded.

Chalupa Batman

October 11th, 2022, 01:43 PM

I can't see one conference hogging half of the seeds. I also see the CAA champ being seeded.

The same 4 Big Sky teams listed here were all seeded in 2019. They were also seeded in spots 3-6 as they are here too.

FUBeAR

October 11th, 2022, 01:50 PM

The same 4 Big Sky teams listed here were all seeded in 2019. They were also seeded in spots 3-6 as they are here too.
And they all finished 10-1 even though they all played each other.

Chalupa Batman

October 11th, 2022, 02:12 PM

And they all finished 10-1 even though they all played each other.

Very impressive considering 2 of them finished 6-2 in conference play that year.

FUBeAR

October 11th, 2022, 02:31 PM

Very impressive considering 2 of them finished 6-2 in conference play that year.FBK,R?

Chalupa Batman

October 11th, 2022, 02:50 PM

FBK,R?

I have no idea what this means

MR. CHICKEN

October 11th, 2022, 02:55 PM

FBK,R?

....AH KNOW IT'S NOT......."FIXED IT FOR YOU".......BRAWK!

FUBeAR

October 11th, 2022, 03:02 PM

....AH KNOW IT'S NOT......."FIXED IT FOR YOU".......BRAWK!
The Chicken alphabet would be very different from the Merican one, if so.

“FUBeAR knows, right?”

https://sayingimages.com/wp-content/uploads/sarcastic-nicholas-cage-i-know-meme.jpg

FUBeAR

October 16th, 2022, 07:25 AM

Mr. Massey has updated his Top 8 Seeds for the FCS Playoffs…

https://i.postimg.cc/440C4Dxw/9-B32-FE35-78-C6-4-A4-B-82-A1-C7-C75-B74-D6-C2.jpg

#1 - Sacramento State
#2 - Weber State
#3 - South Dakota State
#4 - North Dakota State
#5 - Montana State
#6 - Mercer
#7 - Holy Cross
#8 - Montana

This week…

#8 Montana is @ #1 Sacramento State
#2 Weber State is @ #5 Montana State
#3 South Dakota State is @ #12 North Dakota
#6 Mercer is @ #10 Chattanooga…

…so that could shake things up in the “Massey Seeds.”

caribbeanhen

October 16th, 2022, 07:31 AM

Mr. Massey has updated his Top 8 Seeds for the FCS Playoffs…

https://i.postimg.cc/440C4Dxw/9-B32-FE35-78-C6-4-A4-B-82-A1-C7-C75-B74-D6-C2.jpg

#1 - Sacramento State
#2 - Weber State
#3 - South Dakota State
#4 - North Dakota State
#5 - Montana State
#6 - Mercer
#7 - Holy Cross
#8 - Montana

This week…

#8 Montana is @ #1 Sacramento State
#2 Weber State is @ #5 Montana State
#3 South Dakota State is @ #12 North Dakota
#6 Mercer is @ #10 Chattanooga…

…so that could shake things up in the “Massey Seeds.”

the good CAA teams ain’t that bad, but the bad CAA teams are sinking the overall computer rankings

Stony Brook
Albany
Hampton

So Bad (SPM)

dewey

October 16th, 2022, 09:52 AM

Mr. Massey has updated his Top 8 Seeds for the FCS Playoffs…

https://i.postimg.cc/440C4Dxw/9-B32-FE35-78-C6-4-A4-B-82-A1-C7-C75-B74-D6-C2.jpg

#1 - Sacramento State
#2 - Weber State
#3 - South Dakota State
#4 - North Dakota State
#5 - Montana State
#6 - Mercer
#7 - Holy Cross
#8 - Montana

This week…

#8 Montana is @ #1 Sacramento State
#2 Weber State is @ #5 Montana State
#3 South Dakota State is @ #12 North Dakota
#6 Mercer is @ #10 Chattanooga…

…so that could shake things up in the “Massey Seeds.”

If SDSU finishes the season with their only loss being to Iowa they should be #1.

Dewey

wapiti

October 16th, 2022, 10:22 AM

If SDSU finishes the season with their only loss being to Iowa they should be #1.

Dewey

Not if either Weber or Sac finish undefeated

Bison Fan in NW MN

October 16th, 2022, 10:27 AM

Not if either Weber or Sac finish undefeated

Plus, don't both of them have FBS wins?

One of them will be the #1 seed if they are undefeated. Jacks will be the #2 if they win out.

caribbeanhen

October 16th, 2022, 10:31 AM

Not if either Weber or Sac finish undefeated

Those two are looking really good but now the good Big Sky teams start playing each other and it’s about time

Sitting Bull

October 16th, 2022, 10:38 AM

Those two are looking really good but now the good Big Sky teams start playing each other and it’s about time

Idaho’s only major challenge ahead looks like game @Sac State. If they win that, they would likely be 9-2, Big Sky champs and 9-0 vs FCS. If they lost at Sac, they would still likely be 8-3 and a playoff team.

Their remaining Big Sky games are Portland State, Sac State, Cal Davis, Eastern Washington and Idaho State.

caribbeanhen

October 16th, 2022, 10:43 AM

Idaho’s only major challenge ahead looks like game @Sac State. If they win that, they would likely be 9-2, Big Sky champs and 9-0 vs FCS. If they lost at Sac, they would still likely be 8-3 and a playoff team.

Their remaining Big Sky games are Portland State, Sac State, Cal Davis, Eastern Washington and Idaho State.

I had Idaho at number 19 last week, check gohens again after your nice post

RabidRabbit

October 16th, 2022, 04:03 PM

Plus, don't both of them have FBS wins?

One of them will be the #1 seed if they are undefeated. Jacks will be the #2 if they win out.Does Sac vs Weber occur this year?

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Chalupa Batman

October 16th, 2022, 04:23 PM

Does Sac vs Weber occur this year?

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Yes, 11/5 at Weber.

Montana State & Sac State avoid each other though.

FUBeAR

October 16th, 2022, 10:04 PM

Oh my little Fubby- As a man who spent enough a miserable existence reading scientific studies and trying to torture the data to say what I wanted it to say, I can spot the flaw in your logic from Johnson City. If you are going to rely on Mr. Massey to predict the top 8 in FCS, you must actually open the schedule for you little Cronic Bears and see what Mr. Massey has to say about their W-L Record. My Massey currently has them at 50% vs the Mocs, but he has the final score as the Mocs by 1...So, you think a Mercer team that is not going to win the conference (according to Mr Massey) is going to be seeded ahead of the team that beat them head to head and actually took the SoCon AQ? I'll give you a minute or two so you can spin this!!! And Go Mocs!
Any interest in revising or deleting this post, MT74? As FUBeAR responded / projected he would, Mr. Massey now sees things a bit differently than he did a week ago…

Mercer University (http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-0379030414683754:9954400133&ie=UTF-8&q=Mercer%20University%20Bears,%20Football,%20Colle ge%20Football,%20Macon,%20GA&sa=Search&ref=#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=Mercer%20University%20Bears,%20Football,%20C ollege%20Football,%20Macon,%20GA&gsc.page=1) Bears (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/mascots?m=Bears) (10-1 / 8-0)

Date

Opponent
Result
PF
PA

11-19
at
Samford (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/6987)
61 % (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/game.php?gid=935076244)
32
27

11-12

Furman (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/2800)
70 % (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/game.php?gid=935076092)
28
21

10-29
at
VMI (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/8450)
84 % (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/game.php?gid=935075858)
35
17

10-22
at
Chattanooga (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/7809)
50 % (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/game.php?gid=935075778)
24
23

10-15

ETSU (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/2321)
W (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/game.php?gid=935075638)
55
33

10-08

W Carolina (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/8742)
W (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/game.php?gid=935075533)
49
6

10-01
at
Wofford (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/9126)
W (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/game.php?gid=935075432)
42
7

09-24
at
Gardner Webb (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/2825)
W (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/game.php?gid=935075338)
45
14

09-17

Citadel (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/1545)
W (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/game.php?gid=935075185)
17
0

09-03
at
Auburn (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/402)
L (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/game.php?gid=935074887)
16
42

08-27

Morehead St (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/5105)
W (https://masseyratings.com/cf2022/game.php?gid=935074927)
63
13

caribbeanhen

October 18th, 2022, 07:09 PM

How many Auto bids this year? 11 ?

FUBeAR

October 18th, 2022, 07:26 PM

Don’t think the Playoff Selection Committee uses Versus Sports Simulator (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/) to guide them in developing their seeds & at-large bids, but FUBeAR is intrigued with their Power Ranking of FCS Teams as if they were doing the seeds today…

Versus Sports Simulator - Power Ranking

Pwr School Conference W L Off Def
1 Mercer Southern 6-1 3 5
2 Sacramento St Big Sky 6-0 2 14
3 Weber St Big Sky 6-0 18 1
4 Incarnate Word Southland 6-1 1 46
5 Holy Cross Patriot League 6-0 6 10
6 South Dakota St Missouri Valley 6-1 28 2
7 Montana Big Sky 5-1 14 9
8 Jackson St SWAC 6-0 5 18 (most likely will not participate in Playoffs)
9 North Dakota St Missouri Valley 5-2 16 12

10 Chattanooga Southern 5-1 33 4
11 Delaware CAA 5-1 35 7
12 Idaho Big Sky 4-2 9 24
13 Samford Southern 5-1 41 8
14 William & Mary CAA 5-1 19 22
15 Southern Illinois Missouri Valley 5-2 23 20
16 UC-Davis Big Sky 2-4 13 28
17 Furman Southern 5-2 31 13
18 Montana St Big Sky 6-1 10 34
19 SE Missouri St Ohio Valley 5-1 11 35
20 SE Louisiana Southland 3-3 12 38

Preferred Walk-On

October 18th, 2022, 07:38 PM

Don’t think the Playoff Selection Committee uses Versus Sports Simulator (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/) to guide them in developing their seeds & at-large bids, but FUBeAR is intrigued with their Power Ranking of FCS Teams as if they were doing the seeds today…

Versus Sports Simulator - Power Ranking

Pwr School Conference W L Off Def
1 Mercer Southern 6-1 3 5
2 Sacramento St Big Sky 6-0 2 14
3 Weber St Big Sky 6-0 18 1
4 Incarnate Word Southland 6-1 1 46
5 Holy Cross Patriot League 6-0 6 10
6 South Dakota St Missouri Valley 6-1 28 2
7 Montana Big Sky 5-1 14 9
8 Jackson St SWAC 6-0 5 18 (most likely will not participate in Playoffs)
9 North Dakota St Missouri Valley 5-2 16 12

10 Chattanooga Southern 5-1 33 4
11 Delaware CAA 5-1 35 7
12 Idaho Big Sky 4-2 9 24
13 Samford Southern 5-1 41 8
14 William & Mary CAA 5-1 19 22
15 Southern Illinois Missouri Valley 5-2 23 20
16 UC-Davis Big Sky 2-4 13 28
17 Furman Southern 5-2 31 13
18 Montana St Big Sky 6-1 10 34
19 SE Missouri St Ohio Valley 5-1 11 35
20 SE Louisiana Southland 3-3 12 38

FUBeAR, please, please , pretty please make this the seeding. Again, pretty please.

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FUBeAR

October 18th, 2022, 08:16 PM

FUBeAR, please, please , pretty please make this the seeding. Again, pretty please.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalknah - we need 10, 13, and 17 to move up some 1st.

Preferred Walk-On

October 18th, 2022, 08:29 PM

nah - we need 10, 13, and 17 to move up some 1st.

That would be the real trick. Especially if Mercer were to remain #1, they would have beaten #10, #13, and #17.

For #10 to move up, they will have to beat #1, #13, and #17, and probably have to have a couple of losses by #'s ahead of them. Of course with these power rankings, once #10 beats #1, the sky is the limit, right? If #13 and #17 move up into top 8 consideration, that likely means only one SoCon team seeded, simply because they all have to play each other to finish the season (except for #13 and #17). You will get to see first hand what is poo-pooed on the forums with respect to the MVFC and cannibalization. Enjoy!

Best of luck going forward, and again, I hope this is the playoff seeding that occurs. No seeing SDSU for the upteenth time in the playoffs (here or there), no Big Sky teams coming or going. Traveling to exotic destinations and playing out-of-conference games that would never happen otherwise (assuming everyone holds up their end of the bargain, including #8). Perfect, just perfect. You have made my day.

Preferred Walk-On

October 18th, 2022, 08:41 PM

Traveling to exotic destinations and playing out-of-conference games that would never happen otherwise (assuming everyone holds up their end of the bargain, including #8). Perfect, just perfect. You have made my day.

Excuse me, I meant #9 sliding into #8’s DM’s. Of course, this would probably then be the year Deion decides they should be in the playoffs…

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FUBeAR

October 19th, 2022, 04:01 PM

CBS Sports, currently sees the Top 8 seeds like this… https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-top-25-new-no-1-emerges-in-fcs-power-rankings-mercer-off-to-best-start-since-2013/?fbclid=IwAR3pnUWCW2IZpyglonnUqdI5zvxL8KsabrTX3lb3 nG5azvoBq_N_BO45AC4

1. South Dakota State 5-1
2. Sacramento State 6-0
3. Weber State 6-0
4. North Dakota State 5-2
5. Holy Cross 6-0
6. Montana State 6-1
7. Mercer 6-1
8. Jackson State 8-0 (most likely will not participate in the playoffs)
9. William & Mary 5-1

Gil Dobie

October 19th, 2022, 04:48 PM

FUBeAR thinks FUBeAR should select the 8 seeds this year. ;)

RabidRabbit

October 19th, 2022, 04:58 PM

CBS Sports, currently sees the Top 8 seeds like this… https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-top-25-new-no-1-emerges-in-fcs-power-rankings-mercer-off-to-best-start-since-2013/?fbclid=IwAR3pnUWCW2IZpyglonnUqdI5zvxL8KsabrTX3lb3 nG5azvoBq_N_BO45AC4

1. South Dakota State 5-1
2. Sacramento State 6-0
3. Weber State 6-0
4. North Dakota State 5-2
5. Holy Cross 6-0
6. Montana State 6-1
7. Mercer 6-1
8. Jackson State 8-0 (most likely will not participate in the playoffs)
9. William & Mary 5-1This would almost assure no all BSC or MVFC final

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FUBeAR

October 19th, 2022, 05:16 PM

FUBeAR thinks FUBeAR should select the 8 seeds this year. ;)
FUBeAR has only been your humble and honest reporter in this thread. All data presented has been sourced, with links provided.

If FUBeAR selected the 8 seeds, he would struggle to decide whether VMI, The Citadel, or Wofford would be the 1 unseeded SoCon Team.

FUBeAR

October 19th, 2022, 11:04 PM

Not sure ‘zactly who/what “The Bluebloods” are, but he/she/they claim to be STATS Perform voter(s). At, present, they would seed ‘em this-a-way…https://thebluebloodspod.com/fcs-top-25-the-bluebloods-week-7-ballot/

1. South Dakota State (6-1)
2. Sacramento State (6-0)
3. Montana State (6-1)
4. Weber State (6-0)
5. North Dakota State (5-2)
6. Holy Cross (6-0)
7. Mercer (6-1)
8. Jackson State (6-0) (not likely to participate in playoffs)
9. Incarnate Word (6-1)

That excite everyone?

Catatonic

October 20th, 2022, 09:54 AM

Don’t think the Playoff Selection Committee uses Versus Sports Simulator (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/) to guide them in developing their seeds & at-large bids, but FUBeAR is intrigued with their Power Ranking of FCS Teams as if they were doing the seeds today…

Versus Sports Simulator - Power Ranking

Pwr School Conference W L Off Def
1 Mercer Southern 6-1 3 5
2 Sacramento St Big Sky 6-0 2 14
3 Weber St Big Sky 6-0 18 1
4 Incarnate Word Southland 6-1 1 46
5 Holy Cross Patriot League 6-0 6 10
6 South Dakota St Missouri Valley 6-1 28 2
7 Montana Big Sky 5-1 14 9
8 Jackson St SWAC 6-0 5 18 (most likely will not participate in Playoffs)
9 North Dakota St Missouri Valley 5-2 16 12

10 Chattanooga Southern 5-1 33 4
11 Delaware CAA 5-1 35 7
12 Idaho Big Sky 4-2 9 24
13 Samford Southern 5-1 41 8
14 William & Mary CAA 5-1 19 22
15 Southern Illinois Missouri Valley 5-2 23 20
16 UC-Davis Big Sky 2-4 13 28
17 Furman Southern 5-2 31 13
18 Montana St Big Sky 6-1 10 34
19 SE Missouri St Ohio Valley 5-1 11 35
20 SE Louisiana Southland 3-3 12 38

fubear’s playoff selections might work somewhere in the Meta universe. Back here on earth there are autobids to factor in.

FUBeAR

October 20th, 2022, 10:23 AM

fubear’s playoff selections might work somewhere in the Meta universe. Back here on earth there are autobids to factor in.
1) These are Versus Sports Simulator’s Power Rankings; not FUBeAR’s.
2) And…the focus of this thread is Seeds, not Playoff Selections. That’s why there is a break after 8 Teams - 9 in this case because of JSU….the rest of the list are ‘contenders’ for Seeding per Versus Sports Simulator’s Power Rankings.

Try to focus.

SpreadTheWord

October 20th, 2022, 10:43 AM

Not sure ‘zactly who/what “The Bluebloods” are, but he/she/they claim to be STATS Perform voter(s). At, present, they would seed ‘em this-a-way…https://thebluebloodspod.com/fcs-top-25-the-bluebloods-week-7-ballot/

1. South Dakota State (6-1)
2. Sacramento State (6-0)
3. Montana State (6-1)
4. Weber State (6-0)
5. North Dakota State (5-2)
6. Holy Cross (6-0)
7. Mercer (6-1)
8. Jackson State (6-0) (not likely to participate in playoffs)
9. Incarnate Word (6-1)

That excite everyone?

I'll take it! :)

caribbeanhen

October 20th, 2022, 11:16 AM

CBS Sports, currently sees the Top 8 seeds like this… https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-top-25-new-no-1-emerges-in-fcs-power-rankings-mercer-off-to-best-start-since-2013/?fbclid=IwAR3pnUWCW2IZpyglonnUqdI5zvxL8KsabrTX3lb3 nG5azvoBq_N_BO45AC4

1. South Dakota State 5-1
2. Sacramento State 6-0
3. Weber State 6-0
4. North Dakota State 5-2
5. Holy Cross 6-0
6. Montana State 6-1
7. Mercer 6-1
8. Jackson State 8-0 (most likely will not participate in the playoffs)
9. William & Mary 5-1

“Most likely will not participate in the playoffs”

so you’re telling me there’s a chance 😂

SeattleCat

October 20th, 2022, 11:17 AM

CBS Sports, currently sees the Top 8 seeds like this… https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-top-25-new-no-1-emerges-in-fcs-power-rankings-mercer-off-to-best-start-since-2013/?fbclid=IwAR3pnUWCW2IZpyglonnUqdI5zvxL8KsabrTX3lb3 nG5azvoBq_N_BO45AC4

1. South Dakota State 5-1
2. Sacramento State 6-0
3. Weber State 6-0
4. North Dakota State 5-2
5. Holy Cross 6-0
6. Montana State 6-1
7. Mercer 6-1
8. Jackson State 8-0 (most likely will not participate in the playoffs)
9. William & Mary 5-1

Montana State would boat race Holy Cross. That's a joke having them at 5, but is CBS sports so not surprised.

caribbeanhen

October 20th, 2022, 11:20 AM

Montana State would boat race Holy Cross. That's a joke having them at 5, but is CBS sports so not surprised.

I don’t think so

Do you know who the holy Cross quarterback is? do you know who their middle linebacker is?

Montana state ain’t so special

MSUBobcat

October 20th, 2022, 11:45 AM

I don’t think so

Do you know who the holy Cross quarterback is? do you know who their middle linebacker is?

Montana state ain’t so special

Yeah, until we can play a full 60 minutes and not take the 1st quarter off, we aren't boat racing any good teams.

crusader11

October 20th, 2022, 12:00 PM

Montana State would boat race Holy Cross. That's a joke having them at 5, but is CBS sports so not surprised.

Probably haven't watched a snap of HC this season.

To the casual guy, I get it. You look at the Patriot League and the name "Holy Cross" and assume they MUST be inferior to a Big Sky team.

Montana State nearly loss to 1-5 Eastern Washington, lest you forget.

Houndawg

October 20th, 2022, 12:14 PM

So, you don’t like the Salukis @ #9 then?

not yet

ming01

October 20th, 2022, 12:36 PM

1 Weber State 11-0 (Wins over MSU/Sac St/Montana/FBS should trump SDSU beating NDSU and losing to Iowa
2 SDSU 10-1
3 NDSU 9-2
4 Sac State 10-1
5 William & Mary 9-2
6 Incarnate Word 10-1
7 Holy Cross 11-0
8 Montana 8-3

Candidates:
Montana State 8-3
Mercer 8-3
Delaware 8-3
Chattanooga 8-3

Im sure there's bound to be several unexpected losses that shake this up more.

crusader11

October 20th, 2022, 12:40 PM

Don't think W&M, with a home loss to Elon and another loss, is getting seeded fifth.

MSUBobcat

October 20th, 2022, 01:22 PM

1 Weber State 11-0 (Wins over MSU/Sac St/Montana/FBS should trump SDSU beating NDSU and losing to Iowa
2 SDSU 10-1
3 NDSU 9-2
4 Sac State 10-1
5 William & Mary 9-2
6 Incarnate Word 10-1
7 Holy Cross 11-0
8 Montana 8-3

Candidates:
Montana State 8-3
Mercer 8-3
Delaware 8-3
Chattanooga 8-3

Im sure there's bound to be several unexpected losses that shake this up more.

In the hypothetical where UM loses to UI, Sac and Weber but beats MSU in the Brawl (rivalry game, so anything can happen), you'd give Montana the 8th seed over a 9-2 Idaho who has the H2H victory? Or you think Idaho drops a game to either EWU or Davis at home?

SeattleCat

October 20th, 2022, 01:43 PM

I don’t think so

Do you know who the holy Cross quarterback is? do you know who their middle linebacker is?

Montana state ain’t so special

Do you know who our QB's are? (Division 1 Rushing TD leader)

or our DT whos top 10 in the Nation for sacks? A freaking TACKLE.

We're more special than you think we are.

Preferred Walk-On

October 20th, 2022, 01:44 PM

Not sure ‘zactly who/what “The Bluebloods” are, but he/she/they claim to be STATS Perform voter(s). At, present, they would seed ‘em this-a-way…https://thebluebloodspod.com/fcs-top-25-the-bluebloods-week-7-ballot/

1. South Dakota State (6-1)
2. Sacramento State (6-0)
3. Montana State (6-1)
4. Weber State (6-0)
5. North Dakota State (5-2)
6. Holy Cross (6-0)
7. Mercer (6-1)
8. Jackson State (6-0) (not likely to participate in playoffs)
9. Incarnate Word (6-1)

That excite everyone?

I'll take it! :)

It would be fun to see Incarnate Word @ South Dakota State, North Dakota State @ Weber State, Mercer @ Sac State, and Holy Cross @ Montana State in the quarterfinals, assuming each takes care of business. Fresh matchups not seen very often.

caribbeanhen

October 20th, 2022, 02:31 PM

Probably haven't watched a snap of HC this season.

To the casual guy, I get it. You look at the Patriot League and the name "Holy Cross" and assume they MUST be inferior to a Big Sky team.

Montana State nearly loss to 1-5 Eastern Washington, lest you forget.

Truth!

FUBeAR

October 20th, 2022, 03:22 PM

So…Sharp College Football applied some advanced math to developing their Top 8 seeds https://www.sharpcollegefootball.com/fcs-power-rank

https://i.postimg.cc/3xPh5GJJ/87-D90-C45-0-A77-4899-BB86-4242-DDB73-FE6.jpg

* Showing 9 because of Jackson State

Interesting that their math shows the big SoCon Showdown with Mercer @ Chattanooga this Saturday as a #1 vs. #5 matchup.

More or less accurate than what humans, using their own internal ‘fuzzy math,’ have derived?

Detailed explanation of their math for you math geeks out there… https://www.sharpcollegefootball.com/post/what-is-beta_rank

caribbeanhen

October 20th, 2022, 04:25 PM

The Massey composite index has Mercer at number 5 (same spot as the CHEBT 👁 poll)

Delaware at 8
William at 9

Big Sky a tad lower than AGS

https://masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm

FUBeAR

October 23rd, 2022, 02:11 PM

Mr. Massey has revised his projection of the Top 8 Seeds…

https://i.postimg.cc/9053YbpS/7-C4-A2-AEE-74-B0-4-D2-C-88-CE-4-CBBDDB51498.jpg

#1 - Sacramento State
#2 - South Dakota State
#3 - Weber State
#4 - Montana State
#5 - North Dakota State
#6 - Chattanooga
#7 - Montana
#8 - Holy Cross

#9 - Mercer
#10 - Incarnate Word
#11 - Samford

JacksFan40

October 23rd, 2022, 02:37 PM

Mr. Massey has revised his projection of the Top 8 Seeds…

https://i.postimg.cc/9053YbpS/7-C4-A2-AEE-74-B0-4-D2-C-88-CE-4-CBBDDB51498.jpg

#1 - Sacramento State
#2 - South Dakota State
#3 - Weber State
#4 - Montana State
#5 - North Dakota State
#6 - Chattanooga
#7 - Montana
#8 - Holy Cross

#9 - Mercer
#10 - Incarnate Word
#11 - Samford
Weber being ahead of Montana State seems wrong.

NY Crusader 2010

October 23rd, 2022, 03:15 PM

Do you know who our QB's are? (Division 1 Rushing TD leader)

or our DT whos top 10 in the Nation for sacks? A freaking TACKLE.

We're more special than you think we are.

I think everyone knows who your QB is. I was really rooting for you guys in the playoffs last year, especially against NDSU. Tough that for the second year in a row, a big ticket QB got hurt in the national championship game.

I think it's obvious that Montana State would be favored against Holy Cross, especially up in Bozeman. But as far as rankings, if you look at our schedule we do have a win against a team currently in first place in an FBS conference (Buffalo) and we're undefeated. But unlike the powers of the Big Sky and Missouri Valley Football Conference, there's no room for error when it comes to earning a seed out of the Patriot League. We have no choice but to go 11-0.

FUBeAR

October 23rd, 2022, 11:25 PM

Mr. Sagarin has updated his projected Top 8 seeds (overall d1 ranking)

1 - Sacramento State (74)
2 - South Dakota State (75)
3 - North Dakota State (85)
4 - Weber State (88)
5 - Montana (91)
6 - Montana State (99)
7 - Incarnate Word (109)
8 - Mercer (111)

9 - Idaho (112)
10 - Chattanooga (115)
11 - UC Davis (117)
12 - Southern Illinois (121)
13 - SE Louisiana (126)
14 - Northern Iowa (128)
15 - Holy Cross (130)
16 - North Dakota (133)
17 - Samford (134)

CopperCat

October 24th, 2022, 12:20 AM

Probably haven't watched a snap of HC this season.

To the casual guy, I get it. You look at the Patriot League and the name "Holy Cross" and assume they MUST be inferior to a Big Sky team.

Montana State nearly loss to 1-5 Eastern Washington, lest you forget.

NEARLY. But that means they didn't lose......this kind of conversation NEVER happened 10 years ago when the griz were ALMOST losing to teams on the road. Pretty nonsensical argument if you ask me.

Apparently beating #5 Weber and their top 10 defense wasn't enough to draw some positive attention around here.....

WE_ARE_LIONS

October 24th, 2022, 12:34 AM

Mr. Sagarin has updated his projected Top 8 seeds (overall d1 ranking)

1 - Sacramento State (74)
2 - South Dakota State (75)
3 - North Dakota State (85)
4 - Weber State (88)
5 - Montana (91)
6 - Montana State (99)
7 - Incarnate Word (109)
8 - Mercer (111)

9 - Idaho (112)
10 - Chattanooga (115)
11 - UC Davis (117)
12 - Southern Illinois (121)
13 - SE Louisiana (126)
14 - Northern Iowa (128)
15 - Holy Cross (130)
16 - North Dakota (133)
17 - Samford (134)

Incarnate Word comes to Commerce, TX next week to face the D1/Southland newcomers, and I’m not sure Incarnate Word can gain much of anything there. If UIW wins they beat a team in transition, so no surprise there. Also, they won’t get much schedule help from a win over our boys.

But if they lose then they lose so much more than the game. TAMUC already beat Southeastern Louisiana, and Incarnate Word is the biggest challenge left on the schedule by far. A Lion win puts Commerce as heavy favorites for an undefeated conference crown.

Plus, that means UIW is 3rd in conference at best, and almost assuredly staring at road games if they make playoffs at that point.

FUBeAR

October 24th, 2022, 02:33 AM

Versus Sports Simulator - the one y’all liked so much - has updated who they say should get the Top 8 seeds based on their Power Ranking…

2022-2023 FCS College Football Rankings
Week 8: Sunday October 23, 2022

Pwr
Rank
School
Conference
W
L
Pwr
Off
Def

1
Sacramento St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Sacramento%20St)
Big Sky
7
0
1
2
17

2
Mercer (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Mercer)
Southern
6
2
2
3
12

3
Weber St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Weber%20St)
Big Sky
6
1
3
9
3

4
Incarnate Word (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Incarnate%20Word)
Southland
7
1
4
1
44

5
Chattanooga (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Chattanooga)
Southern
6
1
5
26
2

6
South Dakota St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/South%20Dakota%20St)
Missouri Valley
7
1
6
19
4

7
Montana (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Montana)
Big Sky
5
2
7
22
5

8
Jackson St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Jackson%20St) (not likely to participate)
SWAC
7
0
8
18
11

9
North Dakota St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/North%20Dakota%20St)
Missouri Valley
5
2
9
21
10

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—
-
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—
—

10
Idaho (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Idaho)
Big Sky
5
2
10
6
28

11
UC-Davis (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/UC-Davis)
Big Sky
3
4
11
11
22

12
Holy Cross (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Holy%20Cross)
Patriot League
7
0
12
12
21

13
Furman (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Furman)
Southern
6
2
13
31
8

14
Montana St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Montana%20St)
Big Sky
7
1
14
5
41

15
Samford (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Samford)
Southern
6
1
15
23
14

Still love ‘em?

Mocs123

October 24th, 2022, 06:33 AM

Versus Sports Simulator - the one y’all liked so much - has updated who they say should get the Top 8 seeds based on their Power Ranking…

2022-2023 FCS College Football Rankings
Week 8: Sunday October 23, 2022

Pwr
Rank
School
Conference
W
L
Pwr
Off
Def

1
Sacramento St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Sacramento%20St)
Big Sky
7
0
1
2
17

2
Mercer (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Mercer)
Southern
6
2
2
3
12

3
Weber St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Weber%20St)
Big Sky
6
1
3
9
3

4
Incarnate Word (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Incarnate%20Word)
Southland
7
1
4
1
44

5
Chattanooga (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Chattanooga)
Southern
6
1
5
26
2

6
South Dakota St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/South%20Dakota%20St)
Missouri Valley
7
1
6
19
4

7
Montana (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Montana)
Big Sky
5
2
7
22
5

8
Jackson St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Jackson%20St) (not likely to participate)
SWAC
7
0
8
18
11

9
North Dakota St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/North%20Dakota%20St)
Missouri Valley
5
2
9
21
10

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—

10
Idaho (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Idaho)
Big Sky
5
2
10
6
28

11
UC-Davis (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/UC-Davis)
Big Sky
3
4
11
11
22

12
Holy Cross (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Holy%20Cross)
Patriot League
7
0
12
12
21

13
Furman (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Furman)
Southern
6
2
13
31
8

14
Montana St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Montana%20St)
Big Sky
7
1
14
5
41

15
Samford (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Samford)
Southern
6
1
15
23
14

Still love ‘em?

I'm good with that list!

Preferred Walk-On

October 24th, 2022, 07:22 AM

I'm good with that list!

Really? So Mercer IS three spots better than Chattanooga then?

FUBeAR, I’d take that seeding as well (assuming Jackson State is not participating). The rankings suck, but the seeding…excellent.

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Tribal

October 24th, 2022, 07:44 AM

Not one CAA team. That’s rich.

NY Crusader 2010

October 24th, 2022, 07:56 AM

NEARLY. But that means they didn't lose......this kind of conversation NEVER happened 10 years ago when the griz were ALMOST losing to teams on the road. Pretty nonsensical argument if you ask me.

Apparently beating #5 Weber and their top 10 defense wasn't enough to draw some positive attention around here.....

That game got a lot of attention....for other reasons. A win is a win though, and that was a very good one.

lionsrking2

October 24th, 2022, 08:12 AM

Incarnate Word comes to Commerce, TX next week to face the D1/Southland newcomers, and I’m not sure Incarnate Word can gain much of anything there. If UIW wins they beat a team in transition, so no surprise there. Also, they won’t get much schedule help from a win over our boys.

But if they lose then they lose so much more than the game. TAMUC already beat Southeastern Louisiana, and Incarnate Word is the biggest challenge left on the schedule by far. A Lion win puts Commerce as heavy favorites for an undefeated conference crown.

Plus, that means UIW is 3rd in conference at best, and almost assuredly staring at road games if they make playoffs at that point.

UIW will win out and be a top 8 seed.

Mocs123

October 24th, 2022, 08:21 AM

Really? So Mercer IS three spots better than Chattanooga then?

FUBeAR, I’d take that seeding as well (assuming Jackson State is not participating). The rankings suck, but the seeding…excellent.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Do I think Mercer is three spots better, but I do think they are a playoff worthy team, and if you offered me a #5 seed today, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

caribbeanhen

October 24th, 2022, 08:32 AM

Not one CAA team. That’s rich.

good point

it’s Kool Aide

crusader11

October 24th, 2022, 08:59 AM

Not one CAA team. That’s rich.

Do we believe that a two-loss (that's FCS losses) CAA team automatically puts them out of contention for a seed?

If so, that leaves five teams in the discussion:

W&M
Delaware
URI
Richmond
UNH

Even if UNH were to win out (while they'd receive the CAA at-large), no way are they getting a seed with the loss to NC Central and their only OOC win coming against Dartmouth.

W&M and UD, if either finishes 10-1, are absolutely receiving a top 8 seed. They both have tough roads over the next month.

URI is an interesting study. At 9-2 with losses to UD and Pitt, would they sneak in to that final seed? Don't think so, mostly because their only two OOC wins are Brown and Bryant.

Richmond is in a similar spot to URI. Matching 5-2 (3-1) records with one of their losses coming against an FBS team (UVA). Winning out could mean a seed for them, but -- just like URI -- their OOC wins just aren't very strong (Lehigh and St. Francis), so think they'd still be on the outside.

So, I've convinced myself that UD and W&M are the only two teams that have a shot at a seed.

FUBeAR

October 24th, 2022, 10:36 AM

Sharp College Football’s advanced math, now updated, says these are the Top Teams https://www.sharpcollegefootball.com/fcs-power-rank.

Everyone agrees with this ranking…right?

https://i.postimg.cc/MHNR8qkv/2-F0-C6-BDF-3863-4-AAB-97-AE-00036-DB892-A2.jpg

jacksfan29!

October 24th, 2022, 10:49 AM

8 and 9 would beat Mercer by 4 touchdowns. That would be fun.

FUBeAR

October 24th, 2022, 10:51 AM

8 and 9 would beat Mercer by 4 touchdowns.
Science denier, huh?

FUBeAR

October 24th, 2022, 11:00 AM

Not one CAA team. That’s rich.
Don’t fret Tribal. The good people at Versus Sports didn’t forget the Can Add Anyone Conference…3 Teams in their Top 25.

Pwr
Rank
School
Conf
W
L
Off
Def

17
Delaware (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Delaware)
CAA
6
1
42
6

20
William & Mary (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/William%20%26%20Mary)
CAA
6
1
15
33

24
Richmond (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Richmond)
CAA
5
2
33
24

31
Elon (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Elon)
CAA
5
3
44
30

37
Rhode Island (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Rhode%20Island)
CAA
5
2
35
47

55
Monmouth NJ (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Monmouth%20NJ)
CAA
3
4
29
96

56
New Hampshire (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/New%20Hampshire)
CAA
6
2
72
39

65
Villanova (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Villanova)
CAA
4
3
53
75

95
Maine (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Maine)
CAA
2
5
82
102

99
Towson (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Towson)
CAA
2
5
103
85

100
Hampton (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Hampton)
CAA
4
3
107
82

102
Albany NY (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Albany%20NY)
CAA
1
6
58
124

107
Stony Brook (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Stony%20Brook)
CAA
1
6
123
72

caribbeanhen

October 24th, 2022, 11:57 AM

Don’t fret Tribal. The good people at Versus Sports didn’t forget the Can Add Anyone Conference…3 Teams in their Top 25.

Pwr
Rank
School
Conf
W
L
Off
Def

17
Delaware (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Delaware)
CAA
6
1
42
6

20
William & Mary (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/William%20%26%20Mary)
CAA
6
1
15
33

24
Richmond (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Richmond)
CAA
5
2
33
24

31
Elon (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Elon)
CAA
5
3
44
30

37
Rhode Island (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Rhode%20Island)
CAA
5
2
35
47

55
Monmouth NJ (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Monmouth%20NJ)
CAA
3
4
29
96

56
New Hampshire (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/New%20Hampshire)
CAA
6
2
72
39

65
Villanova (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Villanova)
CAA
4
3
53
75

95
Maine (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Maine)
CAA
2
5
82
102

99
Towson (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Towson)
CAA
2
5
103
85

100
Hampton (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Hampton)
CAA
4
3
107
82

102
Albany NY (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Albany%20NY)
CAA
1
6
58
124

107
Stony Brook (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Stony%20Brook)
CAA
1
6
123
72

congrats on your new job at vs sports FuBear 🎉

crusader11

October 24th, 2022, 12:06 PM

Someone at the NCAA predicts FAMU to get an at-large: https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2022-10-24/2022-fcs-playoff-bracket-predictions-teams-seeds-picks-less-one-month-selections

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

WestCoastAggie

October 24th, 2022, 12:33 PM

Someone at the NCAA predicts FAMU to get an at-large: https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2022-10-24/2022-fcs-playoff-bracket-predictions-teams-seeds-picks-less-one-month-selections

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

NC Central has far better odds with wins over A&T and UNH.

caribbeanhen

October 24th, 2022, 02:41 PM

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2022-playoff-predictions-5-bzbz/

Delaware at Mercer in first round

that would be something (SPM)

FUBeAR

October 24th, 2022, 04:27 PM

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2022-playoff-predictions-5-bzbz/

Delaware at Mercer in first round

that would be something (SPM)y’all don’t want any of that Maconga smoke!

Tribe4SF

October 24th, 2022, 04:40 PM

https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2022-playoff-predictions-5-bzbz/

Delaware at Mercer in first round

that would be something (SPM)

Despite UDDan's explanation that Herder projects future games when doing this I doubt we see three Big Sky teams seeded in the top 5 by the time it all shakes out. As I said on GoHens, if W&M and Delaware finish 10-1 at least one will be seeded.

caribbeanhen

October 24th, 2022, 06:38 PM

Despite UDDan's explanation that Herder projects future games when doing this I doubt we see three Big Sky teams seeded in the top 5 by the time it all shakes out. As I said on GoHens, if W&M and Delaware finish 10-1 at least one will be seeded.

UD Dan is known all over the world by the Foxy Ladies and Keen girls

he’ll be going down in history as the best FCS reporter their ever will be 😂

jacksfan29!

October 24th, 2022, 08:08 PM

Science denier, huh?

Common sense realist.

FUBeAR

October 31st, 2022, 01:06 PM

Mr. Massey says..

https://i.postimg.cc/KY1v27xP/03012-ED9-21-F0-4-E39-9-E13-70-C93620-F4-CF.jpg

#1 - Sacramento State
#2 - South Dakota State
#3 - Weber State
#4 - Montana State
#5 - North Dakota State
#6 - Incarnate Word
#7 - Holy Cross
#8 - Chattanooga

#9 - Mercer
#10 - Samford
#11 - Montana
#12 - Idaho
#13 - Furman

FUBeAR

October 31st, 2022, 01:22 PM

Mr. Sagarin says…

College Football 2022 through games of October 29 Saturday
RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 | PREDICTOR | GOLDEN_MEAN | RECENT
HOME ADVANTAGE=[ 1.82] [ 1.94] [ 2.02] [ 1.65]
#1 (62) South Dakota State = 71.24 8 1 53.93( 148) 0 0 | 0 0 | 68.79 70 | 71.40 62 | 72.33 56 MVFC
#2 (75) Sacramento State = 68.34 8 0 50.53( 160) 0 0 | 0 0 | 67.11 85 | 68.65 76 | 68.68 75 BIG SKY
#3 (78) North Dakota State = 67.95 6 2 52.23( 154) 0 0 | 0 0 | 67.41 84 | 69.40 72 | 67.39 78 MVFC
#4 (83) Weber State = 66.81 7 1 55.80( 139) 0 0 | 0 0 | 66.86 86 | 67.06 84 | 66.52 82 BIG SKY
#5 (90) Montana = 65.47 5 3 50.84( 159) 0 0 | 0 0 | 66.05 87 | 63.87 96 | 65.85 89 BIG SKY
#6 (103) Incarnate Word = 63.26 8 1 45.09( 192) 0 0 | 0 0 | 62.45 103 | 61.89 108 | 64.23 99 SOUTHLND
#7 (105) Montana State = 63.02 7 1 46.75( 183) 0 0 | 0 1 | 59.60 118 | 63.99 95 | 64.17 100 BIG SKY
#8 (106) UC Davis = 62.38 4 4 53.21( 152) 0 0 | 0 0 | 61.75 106 | 57.64 130 | 65.07 94 BIG SKY

#9 (111 ) Idaho = 61.99 5 3 55.36( 141) 0 0 | 0 0 | 59.71 117 | 59.02 125 | 64.58 95 BIG SKY
#10 (112) Mercer = 61.83 7 2 44.57( 195) 0 0 | 0 0 | 60.82 111 | 58.30 126 | 64.05 102 SOUTHERN
#11 (122) Southern Illinois = 59.14 5 4 55.66( 140) 0 0 | 0 0 | 58.32 124 | 59.97 118 | 59.00 127 MVFC
#12 (123) Northern Iowa = 59.13 5 4 54.03( 147) 0 0 | 0 0 | 57.76 127 | 59.04 124 | 59.72 121 MVFC
#13 (125) Chattanooga = 59.03 6 2 47.40( 178) 0 0 | 0 1 | 57.50 128 | 59.49 121 | 59.43 123 SOUTHERN
#14 (126) Samford = 58.78 7 1 47.21( 181) 0 1 | 0 1 | 56.56 131 | 59.04 123 | 59.62 122 SOUTHERN

FUBeAR

October 31st, 2022, 01:39 PM

Incarnate Word moves Mercer out of the Top Spot in Sharp College Football’s https://www.sharpcollegefootball.com/fcs-advanced-stats reckoning. Winning on the road by 41 isn’t as impressive as it used to be, it seems…

https://i.postimg.cc/fWX9091W/20604-D59-84-B5-4-F57-8-CFA-637-FAED59-B12.jpg

FUBeAR

October 31st, 2022, 01:45 PM

Versus Simulator’s FCS power ranking…https://www.versussportssimulator.com/FCS/rankings

2022-2023 FCS College Football Rankings

Week 9: Sunday October 30, 2022

Pwr
School
Conference
W
L
Off
Def

1
Sacramento St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Sacramento%20St)
Big Sky
8
0
2
14

2
Weber St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Weber%20St)
Big Sky
7
1
13
2

3
South Dakota St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/South%20Dakota%20St)
Missouri Valley
8
1
15
1

4
Incarnate Word (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Incarnate%20Word)
Southland
8
1
1
23

5
Mercer (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Mercer)
Southern
7
2
4
11

6
Jackson St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Jackson%20St)
SWAC
8
0
19
4

7
Montana (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Montana)
Big Sky
5
3
24
6

8
North Dakota St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/North%20Dakota%20St)
Missouri Valley
6
2
17
7

9
UC-Davis (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/UC-Davis)
Big Sky
4
4
8
18

10
Chattanooga (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Chattanooga)
Southern
6
2
32
3

11
Idaho (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Idaho)
Big Sky
5
3
7
19

12
Samford (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Samford)
Southern
7
1
16
13

13
Montana St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Montana%20St)
Big Sky
7
1
5
36

14
Furman (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Furman)
Southern
7
2
33
10

crusader11

October 31st, 2022, 01:51 PM

These computers don't like my alma mater.

Sitting Bull

October 31st, 2022, 02:31 PM

Reality looks more like this

RANKINGSMon, 10/31/2022

Rank
Team
Comments
Prior

1
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/o-s/southdakotastate_110x110.gif
South Dakota State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20893)
Jackrabbits had no problem at home with Indiana State. Potentially, their last road game in 2022 comes next, at Northern Iowa.
1

2
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/college_thumb/logos/college-team-logos/o-s/sacramentostate_110x110.gif
Sacramento State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20863)
Hornets won another close one at home, this time over Idaho. The resume is close to being the best. A win next week at Weber State may do it.
2

3
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/l-n/montanastate_logo.gif
Montana State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20887)
Bobcats had the week off, prepping for a two week roadie. First one at Northern Arizona is sometimes tricky.
3

4
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/l-n/northdakotastate.jpg
North Dakota State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20897)
Bison grind out a solid win at home against Illinois State. You figure the coming road tilt at Western Illinois will pose little issue.
4

5
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/t-z/weberstate_logo.gif
Weber State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20852)
Wildcats followed their Montana State loss with a Montana win. The last of three grinders comes this week at home vs. Sac State.
6

6
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/college_thumb/logos/college-team-logos/d-k/holycross_110x110.gif
Holy Cross (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20824)
Crusaders needed every point they could muster to beat back Fordham. A home win over Lehigh next week would clinch the Patriot autobid.
9

7
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/college_thumb/logos/college-team-logos/d-k/incarnate_word_logo.png
Incarnate Word (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20831)
Cardinals took a solid road win over TX A&M-Commerce. Outside looking in for the Southland auto, but a win vs. Houston Christian may clinch at-large.
5

8
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/o-s/samford_logo.gif
Samford (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/node/364)
Bulldogs won at The Citadel and are all alone atop the SoCon. Need home win vs. VMI because those last two games are both vs. ranked opponents.
12

9
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/t-z/williamandmary_logo.png
William & Mary (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20801)
Tribe were in a slobberknocker with Rhode Island and prevailed 31-30. Might be underranked still, considering the resume. Go to Hampton next week.
10

10
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/d-k/idaho_110x110.gif
Idaho (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/node/415)
Vandals fell just short, in the waning minutes at Sacramento State. That was their first FCS loss. Two home games coming with Eastern Washington next.
11

11
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/d-k/furman_110x110.gif
Furman (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20759)
Paladins beat Chattanooga. The SoCon logjam is impressive and they're right in the middle of it. Week off coming before huge game vs. Furman.
23

12
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/d-k/jacksonstate_logo.gif
Jackson State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20807)
Tigers shutout Southern, who looked like their best remaining opponent. Road game to Texas Southern comes next. Any stopping these Tigers?
13

13
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/college_thumb/logos/college-team-logos/a-c/chattanooga_110x110.gif
Chattanooga (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20856)
Mocs had been rolling. But that momentum was halted in their trip to Furman. The Citadel is up next, also on the road.
7

14
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/l-n/mercer_110x110.gif
Mercer (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20843)
Bears loss at Chattanooga didn't linger into this week, as they destroyed VMI. Like Furman, they'll take the week off to prepare for that coming matchup.
15

15
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/l-n/newhampshire_110x110.gif
New Hampshire (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/18651)
(https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/node/321)
Wildcats had the week off. Still the only CAA undefeated, they travel to one of the two remaining that have only one conference loss - Richmond.
16

16
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/o-s/rhodeisland_logo.gif
Rhode Island (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20810)
Rams seem to get into tight, crazy games. Followed up the Monmouth overtime game with close loss at W&M. A rebound vs. Maine is now essential.
17

17
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/o-s/richmond_110x110.gif
Richmond (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20804)
Spiders took care of business in Maine. Last three are all toughies. The first at New Hampshire might be most important.
20

18
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/d-k/fordham_110x110.gif
Fordham (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/college/fordham)
(https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/node/386)
Rams used that bye week well in prep for Holy Cross and almost pulled the upset. Count on lots of offense at Bucknell next week.
19

19
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/d-k/elon_logo.gif
Elon (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20765)
Phoenix have played a brutal schedule. W's vs. W&M, Richmond and Delaware. L's to URI and UNH. Battle tested. Come home to face Albany now.
NR

20
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/d-k/delaware_110x110.gif
Delaware (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20849)
Blue Hens drop 12 spots after losing to Elon. Wonder if non-con wins over two MEAC schools will hurt them later. Home vs. dangerous Monmouth next.
8

21
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/o-s/southeasternmissouri_state_110x110.gif
Southeast Missouri (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/node/320)
Redhawks lost at home to Eastern Kentucky. OVC title and autobid is still possible. A road win at Tennessee State would eliminate the Tigers.
14

22
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/d-k/easternkentucky2019logo.jpg
Eastern Kentucky (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20796)
Colonels recorded a vitally important win over SE Missouri. Right back to work in the ASUN/WAC next week at home vs. Central Arkansas.
NR

23
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/o-s/princeton_110x110.gif
Princeton (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20780)
Tigers are the lone undefeated Ivy Leaguer left having just disposed of Cornell. Home date with struggling Dartmouth cannot be overlooked.
24

24
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/t-z/tennesseemartin_110x110.gif
UT Martin (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20834)
Skyhawks followed the FBS Tennessee loss with a comfortable win over Houston Christian. Home non-con with Kennesaw State is next.
21

25
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/l-n/northdakota_logo.gif
North Dakota (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20782)
Fightin' Hawks win their final non-con at home vs. Abilene Christian. Next two opponents are combined 3-13, must haves. Indiana State is next.
NR

wapiti

October 31st, 2022, 02:45 PM

Reality looks more like this

RANKINGSMon, 10/31/2022

Rank
Team
Comments
Prior

1
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/o-s/southdakotastate_110x110.gif
South Dakota State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20893)
Jackrabbits had no problem at home with Indiana State. Potentially, their last road game in 2022 comes next, at Northern Iowa.
1

2
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/college_thumb/logos/college-team-logos/o-s/sacramentostate_110x110.gif
Sacramento State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20863)
Hornets won another close one at home, this time over Idaho. The resume is close to being the best. A win next week at Weber State may do it.
2

3
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/l-n/montanastate_logo.gif
Montana State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20887)
Bobcats had the week off, prepping for a two week roadie. First one at Northern Arizona is sometimes tricky.
3

4
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/l-n/northdakotastate.jpg
North Dakota State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20897)
Bison grind out a solid win at home against Illinois State. You figure the coming road tilt at Western Illinois will pose little issue.
4

5
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/t-z/weberstate_logo.gif
Weber State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20852)
Wildcats followed their Montana State loss with a Montana win. The last of three grinders comes this week at home vs. Sac State.
6

6
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/college_thumb/logos/college-team-logos/d-k/holycross_110x110.gif
Holy Cross (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20824)
Crusaders needed every point they could muster to beat back Fordham. A home win over Lehigh next week would clinch the Patriot autobid.
9

7
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/college_thumb/logos/college-team-logos/d-k/incarnate_word_logo.png
Incarnate Word (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20831)
Cardinals took a solid road win over TX A&M-Commerce. Outside looking in for the Southland auto, but a win vs. Houston Christian may clinch at-large.
5

8
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/o-s/samford_logo.gif
Samford (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/node/364)
Bulldogs won at The Citadel and are all alone atop the SoCon. Need home win vs. VMI because those last two games are both vs. ranked opponents.
12

9
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/t-z/williamandmary_logo.png
William & Mary (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20801)
Tribe were in a slobberknocker with Rhode Island and prevailed 31-30. Might be underranked still, considering the resume. Go to Hampton next week.
10

10
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/d-k/idaho_110x110.gif
Idaho (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/node/415)
Vandals fell just short, in the waning minutes at Sacramento State. That was their first FCS loss. Two home games coming with Eastern Washington next.
11

11
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/d-k/furman_110x110.gif
Furman (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20759)
Paladins beat Chattanooga. The SoCon logjam is impressive and they're right in the middle of it. Week off coming before huge game vs. Furman.
23

12
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/d-k/jacksonstate_logo.gif
Jackson State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20807)
Tigers shutout Southern, who looked like their best remaining opponent. Road game to Texas Southern comes next. Any stopping these Tigers?
13

13
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/college_thumb/logos/college-team-logos/a-c/chattanooga_110x110.gif
Chattanooga (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20856)
Mocs had been rolling. But that momentum was halted in their trip to Furman. The Citadel is up next, also on the road.
7

14
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Mercer (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20843)
Bears loss at Chattanooga didn't linger into this week, as they destroyed VMI. Like Furman, they'll take the week off to prepare for that coming matchup.
15

15
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New Hampshire (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/18651)
(https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/node/321)
Wildcats had the week off. Still the only CAA undefeated, they travel to one of the two remaining that have only one conference loss - Richmond.
16

16
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Rhode Island (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20810)
Rams seem to get into tight, crazy games. Followed up the Monmouth overtime game with close loss at W&M. A rebound vs. Maine is now essential.
17

17
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Richmond (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20804)
Spiders took care of business in Maine. Last three are all toughies. The first at New Hampshire might be most important.
20

18
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Fordham (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/college/fordham)
(https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/node/386)
Rams used that bye week well in prep for Holy Cross and almost pulled the upset. Count on lots of offense at Bucknell next week.
19

19
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Elon (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20765)
Phoenix have played a brutal schedule. W's vs. W&M, Richmond and Delaware. L's to URI and UNH. Battle tested. Come home to face Albany now.
NR

20
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Delaware (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20849)
Blue Hens drop 12 spots after losing to Elon. Wonder if non-con wins over two MEAC schools will hurt them later. Home vs. dangerous Monmouth next.
8

21
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Southeast Missouri (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/node/320)
Redhawks lost at home to Eastern Kentucky. OVC title and autobid is still possible. A road win at Tennessee State would eliminate the Tigers.
14

22
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Eastern Kentucky (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20796)
Colonels recorded a vitally important win over SE Missouri. Right back to work in the ASUN/WAC next week at home vs. Central Arkansas.
NR

23
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Princeton (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20780)
Tigers are the lone undefeated Ivy Leaguer left having just disposed of Cornell. Home date with struggling Dartmouth cannot be overlooked.
24

24
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UT Martin (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20834)
Skyhawks followed the FBS Tennessee loss with a comfortable win over Houston Christian. Home non-con with Kennesaw State is next.
21

25
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North Dakota (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20782)
Fightin' Hawks win their final non-con at home vs. Abilene Christian. Next two opponents are combined 3-13, must haves. Indiana State is next.
NR

If Jackson State played every team in this list they would most likely be 0 - 24

Preferred Walk-On

October 31st, 2022, 02:57 PM

Versus Simulator’s FCS power ranking…https://www.versussportssimulator.com/FCS/rankings

2022-2023 FCS College Football Rankings

Week 9: Sunday October 30, 2022

Pwr
School
Conference
W
L
Off
Def

1
Sacramento St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Sacramento%20St)
Big Sky
8
0
2
14

2
Weber St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Weber%20St)
Big Sky
7
1
13
2

3
South Dakota St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/South%20Dakota%20St)
Missouri Valley
8
1
15
1

4
Incarnate Word (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Incarnate%20Word)
Southland
8
1
1
23

5
Mercer (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Mercer)
Southern
7
2
4
11

6
Jackson St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Jackson%20St)
SWAC
8
0
19
4

7
Montana (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Montana)
Big Sky
5
3
24
6

8
North Dakota St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/North%20Dakota%20St)
Missouri Valley
6
2
17
7

9
UC-Davis (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/UC-Davis)
Big Sky
4
4
8
18

10
Chattanooga (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Chattanooga)
Southern
6
2
32
3

11
Idaho (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Idaho)
Big Sky
5
3
7
19

12
Samford (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Samford)
Southern
7
1
16
13

13
Montana St (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Montana%20St)
Big Sky
7
1
5
36

14
Furman (https://www.versussportssimulator.com/CFB/teams/Furman)
Southern
7
2
33
10

Again, yes please.

Preferred Walk-On

October 31st, 2022, 02:58 PM

Mr. Sagarin says…

College Football 2022 through games of October 29 Saturday
RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 | PREDICTOR | GOLDEN_MEAN | RECENT
HOME ADVANTAGE=[ 1.82] [ 1.94] [ 2.02] [ 1.65]
#1 (62) South Dakota State = 71.24 8 1 53.93( 148) 0 0 | 0 0 | 68.79 70 | 71.40 62 | 72.33 56 MVFC
#2 (75) Sacramento State = 68.34 8 0 50.53( 160) 0 0 | 0 0 | 67.11 85 | 68.65 76 | 68.68 75 BIG SKY
#3 (78) North Dakota State = 67.95 6 2 52.23( 154) 0 0 | 0 0 | 67.41 84 | 69.40 72 | 67.39 78 MVFC
#4 (83) Weber State = 66.81 7 1 55.80( 139) 0 0 | 0 0 | 66.86 86 | 67.06 84 | 66.52 82 BIG SKY
#5 (90) Montana = 65.47 5 3 50.84( 159) 0 0 | 0 0 | 66.05 87 | 63.87 96 | 65.85 89 BIG SKY
#6 (103) Incarnate Word = 63.26 8 1 45.09( 192) 0 0 | 0 0 | 62.45 103 | 61.89 108 | 64.23 99 SOUTHLND
#7 (105) Montana State = 63.02 7 1 46.75( 183) 0 0 | 0 1 | 59.60 118 | 63.99 95 | 64.17 100 BIG SKY
#8 (106) UC Davis = 62.38 4 4 53.21( 152) 0 0 | 0 0 | 61.75 106 | 57.64 130 | 65.07 94 BIG SKY

#9 (111 ) Idaho = 61.99 5 3 55.36( 141) 0 0 | 0 0 | 59.71 117 | 59.02 125 | 64.58 95 BIG SKY
#10 (112) Mercer = 61.83 7 2 44.57( 195) 0 0 | 0 0 | 60.82 111 | 58.30 126 | 64.05 102 SOUTHERN
#11 (122) Southern Illinois = 59.14 5 4 55.66( 140) 0 0 | 0 0 | 58.32 124 | 59.97 118 | 59.00 127 MVFC
#12 (123) Northern Iowa = 59.13 5 4 54.03( 147) 0 0 | 0 0 | 57.76 127 | 59.04 124 | 59.72 121 MVFC
#13 (125) Chattanooga = 59.03 6 2 47.40( 178) 0 0 | 0 1 | 57.50 128 | 59.49 121 | 59.43 123 SOUTHERN
#14 (126) Samford = 58.78 7 1 47.21( 181) 0 1 | 0 1 | 56.56 131 | 59.04 123 | 59.62 122 SOUTHERN

A .500 team seeded #8...and no SoCon? Would we need to do a welfare check on FUBeAR? ;)

Preferred Walk-On

October 31st, 2022, 03:00 PM

Reality looks more like this

RANKINGSMon, 10/31/2022

Rank
Team
Comments
Prior

1
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South Dakota State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20893)
Jackrabbits had no problem at home with Indiana State. Potentially, their last road game in 2022 comes next, at Northern Iowa.
1

2
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Sacramento State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20863)
Hornets won another close one at home, this time over Idaho. The resume is close to being the best. A win next week at Weber State may do it.
2

3
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Montana State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20887)
Bobcats had the week off, prepping for a two week roadie. First one at Northern Arizona is sometimes tricky.
3

4
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North Dakota State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20897)
Bison grind out a solid win at home against Illinois State. You figure the coming road tilt at Western Illinois will pose little issue.
4

5
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Weber State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20852)
Wildcats followed their Montana State loss with a Montana win. The last of three grinders comes this week at home vs. Sac State.
6

6
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Holy Cross (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20824)
Crusaders needed every point they could muster to beat back Fordham. A home win over Lehigh next week would clinch the Patriot autobid.
9

7
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Incarnate Word (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20831)
Cardinals took a solid road win over TX A&M-Commerce. Outside looking in for the Southland auto, but a win vs. Houston Christian may clinch at-large.
5

8
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Samford (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/node/364)
Bulldogs won at The Citadel and are all alone atop the SoCon. Need home win vs. VMI because those last two games are both vs. ranked opponents.
12

9
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William & Mary (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20801)
Tribe were in a slobberknocker with Rhode Island and prevailed 31-30. Might be underranked still, considering the resume. Go to Hampton next week.
10

10
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Idaho (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/node/415)
Vandals fell just short, in the waning minutes at Sacramento State. That was their first FCS loss. Two home games coming with Eastern Washington next.
11

11
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Furman (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20759)
Paladins beat Chattanooga. The SoCon logjam is impressive and they're right in the middle of it. Week off coming before huge game vs. Furman.
23

12
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Jackson State (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20807)
Tigers shutout Southern, who looked like their best remaining opponent. Road game to Texas Southern comes next. Any stopping these Tigers?
13

13
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Chattanooga (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20856)
Mocs had been rolling. But that momentum was halted in their trip to Furman. The Citadel is up next, also on the road.
7

14
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Mercer (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20843)
Bears loss at Chattanooga didn't linger into this week, as they destroyed VMI. Like Furman, they'll take the week off to prepare for that coming matchup.
15

15
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New Hampshire (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/18651)
(https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/node/321)
Wildcats had the week off. Still the only CAA undefeated, they travel to one of the two remaining that have only one conference loss - Richmond.
16

16
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Rhode Island (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20810)
Rams seem to get into tight, crazy games. Followed up the Monmouth overtime game with close loss at W&M. A rebound vs. Maine is now essential.
17

17
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Richmond (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20804)
Spiders took care of business in Maine. Last three are all toughies. The first at New Hampshire might be most important.
20

18
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Fordham (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/college/fordham)
(https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/node/386)
Rams used that bye week well in prep for Holy Cross and almost pulled the upset. Count on lots of offense at Bucknell next week.
19

19
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Elon (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20765)
Phoenix have played a brutal schedule. W's vs. W&M, Richmond and Delaware. L's to URI and UNH. Battle tested. Come home to face Albany now.
NR

20
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Delaware (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20849)
Blue Hens drop 12 spots after losing to Elon. Wonder if non-con wins over two MEAC schools will hurt them later. Home vs. dangerous Monmouth next.
8

21
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Southeast Missouri (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/node/320)
Redhawks lost at home to Eastern Kentucky. OVC title and autobid is still possible. A road win at Tennessee State would eliminate the Tigers.
14

22
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/d-k/easternkentucky2019logo.jpg
Eastern Kentucky (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20796)
Colonels recorded a vitally important win over SE Missouri. Right back to work in the ASUN/WAC next week at home vs. Central Arkansas.
NR

23
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Princeton (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20780)
Tigers are the lone undefeated Ivy Leaguer left having just disposed of Cornell. Home date with struggling Dartmouth cannot be overlooked.
24

24
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UT Martin (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20834)
Skyhawks followed the FBS Tennessee loss with a comfortable win over Houston Christian. Home non-con with Kennesaw State is next.
21

25
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/sites/default/files/logos/college-team-logos/l-n/northdakota_logo.gif
North Dakota (https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/20782)
Fightin' Hawks win their final non-con at home vs. Abilene Christian. Next two opponents are combined 3-13, must haves. Indiana State is next.
NR

No, no, no no no! Well, maybe, but no.

lucchesicourt

November 1st, 2022, 03:14 PM

FuBear, if you played Cal (FBS), SDSU, Montana St, and Weber St. In the first 5 weeks how many losses would your team have?

Kramden

November 1st, 2022, 07:38 PM

Holy Cross, in my opinion, is not close to being a top 8 seed.

crusader11

November 1st, 2022, 07:46 PM

Holy Cross, in my opinion, is not close to being a top 8 seed.

Right on the fringe, IMO. At 11-0, HC is getting a seed. Sorry. It’s a shame that the PL is just so damn bad outside of Fordham that it’s difficult to compile better wins and not have the SOS where it is (especially because HC has played a decent OOC schedule).

For what it’s worth, the Buffalo win is going to be the best FBS win an FCS team has this season. That needs to count for something.

Chalupa Batman

November 1st, 2022, 09:30 PM

Right on the fringe, IMO. At 11-0, HC is getting a seed. Sorry. It’s a shame that the PL is just so damn bad outside of Fordham that it’s difficult to compile better wins and not have the SOS where it is (especially because HC has played a decent OOC schedule).

For what it’s worth, the Buffalo win is going to be the best FBS win an FCS team has this season. That needs to count for something.

Holy Cross is most definitely a seed if they go 11-0. The Buffalo win is good, and the Fordham, Yale, Harvard wins are all solids wins too. Even the Merrimack win is decent. Probably a 7 but I wouldn't be surprised if they were #6. HC had a pretty good schedule for this years team, about the only way it would've been better is if they replaced one of the Ivy's with a CAA team like Villanova, Rhode Island, New Hampshire.

Panther88

November 2nd, 2022, 02:50 PM

Folk are losing focus so this needs to be bumped up. :D

Panther88

November 2nd, 2022, 10:40 PM

Lets get this back where it belongs.

Bumped. :D

Milktruck74

November 4th, 2022, 06:45 PM

According to this ranking My Mocs are at 13..12 if you eliminate the JSU Primes...They need 4 slots to get a seed. They beat number 14 two weeks ago and lost by 4 AT #11 last week without the leagues best RB and with some questionable calls (targeting that took away an interception on the 25 yard line that the NCAA later ruled WAS NOT targeting abd reinstated the Mocs Starting Mike LB)...so with three games left, including one with number 8, and looking at the top 10 eating each other....If the Mocs win out, can they back into a seed?

FUBeAR

November 4th, 2022, 06:55 PM

If the Mocs win out, can they back into a seed?Yes - in a just & righteous world.

so…probably not

Milktruck74

November 4th, 2022, 07:02 PM

If Mercer wins out they will have one loss to #13 and wins over #11 and #8....does that get a seed? It should! And Furman would win out they would have a loss to #8 and wins over #13 an #14...SoCon gets a Seed This year!!!! Id love to see the Mocs and Furman or Mercer win out...That would put the SoCon barking at two potential seeds!!!CRAZY!!!!!

FUBeAR

November 4th, 2022, 07:07 PM

If Mercer wins out they will have one loss to #13 and wins over #11 and #8....does that get a seed? It should! And Furman would win out they would have a loss to #8 and wins over #13 an #14...SoCon gets a Seed This year!!!! Id love to see the Mocs and Furman or Mercer win out...That would put the SoCon barking at two potential seeds!!!CRAZY!!!!!
Yep - with FU having the D2 win, ‘they’ would use that to keep 2 SoCon Teams from having seeds, but if Chattanooga and Mercer win out, they both should get seeds…in a just and righteous world.

But… they won’t.

Chalupa Batman

November 4th, 2022, 07:50 PM

Yep - with FU having the D2 win, ‘they’ would use that to keep 2 SoCon Teams from having seeds, but if Chattanooga and Mercer win out, they both should get seeds…in a just and righteous world.

But… they won’t.

They would both certainly be in discussion for seeds, and may very well both get seeded, but way too many other variables to say they SHOULD both get seeded.

For instance....if SDSU, NDSU, Montana State, Weber State, & Sac State all win out (outside of Sac losing to Weber) they will all be locks to be seeded, which would leave 3 available.

And if the following teams all win out you would have 10-1 Incarnate Word, 11-0 Holy Cross, & 10-1 William & Mary or 9-2 Richmond (whoever wins the season finale) in the mix for seeds as well. Between those 3 teams and Chattanooga & Mercer from the scenario in your post, 2 very good teams are going to be playing Thanksgiving weekend.

FUBeAR

November 4th, 2022, 09:10 PM

They would both certainly be in discussion for seeds, and may very well both get seeded, but way too many other variables to say they SHOULD both get seeded.

For instance....if SDSU, NDSU, Montana State, Weber State, & Sac State all win out (outside of Sac losing to Weber) they will all be locks to be seeded, which would leave 3 available.

And if the following teams all win out you would have 10-1 Incarnate Word, 11-0 Holy Cross, & 10-1 William & Mary or 9-2 Richmond (whoever wins the season finale) in the mix for seeds as well. Between those 3 teams and Chattanooga & Mercer from the scenario in your post, 2 very good teams are going to be playing Thanksgiving weekend.
UIW lost to unranked 5-3 SELA.
W&M lost to barely ranked 6-3 Elon.
Richmond also lost to barely ranked 6-3 Elon and has beaten nobody.….and at least 3 of your “locks” wouldn’t have any better resumes than 9-2 Chatt & 9-2 Mercer, once the subjective bias is extracted, in this scenario.

But…you’re right.

If Mercer & Chatt win out, the Committee will, undoubtedly, screw Mercer (due to H2H loss to Chatt) and probably Chatt also.

Chalupa Batman

November 4th, 2022, 11:00 PM

UIW lost to unranked 5-3 SELA.
W&M lost to barely ranked 6-3 Elon.
Richmond also lost to barely ranked 6-3 Elon and has beaten nobody.….and at least 3 of your “locks” wouldn’t have any better resumes than 9-2 Chatt & 9-2 Mercer, once the subjective bias is extracted, in this scenario.

But…you’re right.

If Mercer & Chatt win out, the Committee will, undoubtedly, screw Mercer (due to H2H loss to Chatt) and probably Chatt also.

William & Mary's loss to an Elon team that also beat Richmond & Delaware and that's practically a lock for the playoffs (as long as the Phoenix don't forget what times their games against Albany & Hampton are) is that bad in your book? The Tribe would also have beaten an FBS team (albeit a bad one) by 3 scores, beat likely playoff participant Delaware, & depending how the rest of the season shakes out would have victories over potential playoff teams Rhode Island, Richmond, & Campbell. I'm not saying that their resume would be objectively better than Chatty or Mercer, but in no way can you say that either of the SoCon teams' resumes are objectively better than the Tribe's either.

If it's Richmond that wins out instead of W&M, they would be 9-1 against FCS with wins against playoff teams Delaware & William & Mary, along with their lone loss being a road loss in double OT to an Elon team that is 99.9% going to be in the playoffs. As I said with William & Mary, you can't say the Spiders' resume is objectively better or worse than one or either of the SoCon teams.

Incarnate Word's resume looks like it would be the weak given the way Southern Illinois has fallen off the last couple weeks but given where they are in the polls right now they are very much going to be in the mix for a seed, and the committee isn't going to view their lone loss to SLU (8-1 against FCS competition assuming they also win out) as harshly as you do.

As is the case every single year after a consensus 5-6 teams are seeded, there are another 6 or so teams that are worthy of consideration for one of the final 2-3 seeds. This year will be no different, and 3 things can happen regarding the SoCon teams: 1) neither of them will be seeded, 2) 1 and only 1 of them will be seeded, or 3) they'll both be seeded. I'm not saying which of these should happen, but that you can't come to the conclusion that anything other than #3 happening means your team(s) got screwed. The two SoCon teams would be compared with at least 3 other teams who all have comparable resumes to each other for only 2 or 3 seed spots, and at least 3 of them will have to play Thanksgiving weekend.

MR. CHICKEN

November 5th, 2022, 07:06 AM

Yep - with FU having the D2 win, ‘they’ would use that to keep 2 SoCon Teams from having seeds, but if Chattanooga and Mercer win out, they both should get seeds…in a just and righteous world.

But… they won’t.

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FUBeAR

November 5th, 2022, 07:43 AM

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You’re pretty good at spendin’ other people’s money, aren’t ya, Mr. Chicken?

Travel to / from the Upstate of South Carolina to Utah (if that’s even a real place) sure ain’t chicken feed. The D2 Furman played is located 14 miles from Paladin Stadium, about the same distance as Delaware’s average Away game.

Massey rates 35 lower division Teams ahead of Utah Tech. Maybe the Playoff Selection Committee needs to stop being tone-deaf to the economic realities of FCS Football and do their job by evaluating Teams’ strength of schedules based on actual strength of schedule instead of an arbitrary alphanumeric assignation.

Cluck the Playoff Selection Committee and their clucking lazy stupidity.

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FUBeAR

November 5th, 2022, 08:01 AM

Blah, blah, blah…

…As is the case every single year after a consensus 5-6 teams are seeded…

blah, blah, blah

YOU’LL ACCEPT THE CIRCULAR LOGIC BIAS AND LIKE IT!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcJjlL3izVc

MR. CHICKEN

November 5th, 2022, 08:12 AM

You’re pretty good at spendin’ other people’s money, aren’t ya, Mr. Chicken?

Travel to / from the Upstate of South Carolina to Utah (if that’s even a real place) sure ain’t chicken feed. The D2 Furman played is located 14 miles from Paladin Stadium, about the same distance as Delaware’s average Away game.

Massey rates 35 lower division Teams ahead of Utah Tech. Maybe the Playoff Selection Committee needs to stop being tone-deaf to the economic realities of FCS Football and do their job by evaluating Teams’ strength of schedules based on actual strength of schedule instead of an arbitrary alphanumeric assignation.

Cluck the Playoff Selection Committee and their clucking lazy stupidity.

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Milktruck74

November 5th, 2022, 09:36 AM

If/When (and still a bunch of games to hash it out) Chattanooga and Mercer win out, you'd have two 9-2 teams with losses to top 15 FBS programs and top 15 FCS programs...and atleast two wins against top 25 FCS programs...and both have a sagarin SOS in the 160-190 range just like everybody else mentioned...That is a difficult resume to deny a seed to...however the committee will probably see SoCon beside their name and instantly write them off.

MR. CHICKEN

November 5th, 2022, 10:00 AM

If/When (and still a bunch of games to hash it out) Chattanooga and Mercer win out, you'd have two 9-2 teams with losses to top 15 FBS programs and top 15 FCS programs...and atleast two wins against top 25 FCS programs...and both have a sagarin SOS in the 160-190 range just like everybody else mentioned...That is a difficult resume to deny a seed to...however the committee will probably see SoCon beside their name and instantly write them off.

.....COOD WE HOLD DUH TEARS.....UNTIL IT ACTUALY....HAPPENS...........AWK?

FUBeAR

November 5th, 2022, 11:17 AM

.....COOD WE HOLD DUH TEARS.....UNTIL IT ACTUALY....HAPPENS...........AWK?
Because everyone here is so welcoming and responds so positively to posters whose Teams get totally screwed by the F’d up Playoff Selection Committee and the F’d up structure of the Playoffs just as long as they only post about it after “IT ACTUALY….HAPPENS.” Right?

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ElCid

November 5th, 2022, 11:30 AM

If/When (and still a bunch of games to hash it out) Chattanooga and Mercer win out, you'd have two 9-2 teams with losses to top 15 FBS programs and top 15 FCS programs...and atleast two wins against top 25 FCS programs...and both have a sagarin SOS in the 160-190 range just like everybody else mentioned...That is a difficult resume to deny a seed to...however the committee will probably see SoCon beside their name and instantly write them off.

Mercer lost to Auburn. Not a horrible showing, but Auburn is so far out of the top 15 that it isn't even close. The Illinois loss by Chattanooga, which everyone seemed to ridicule at the time, looks a lot better as the weeks passed.

Milktruck74

November 5th, 2022, 11:35 AM

Mercer lost to Auburn. Not a horrible showing, but Auburn is so far out of the top 15 that it isn't even close. The Illinois loss by Chattanooga, which everyone seemed to ridicule at the time, looks a lot better as the weeks passed.

You are correct sir...my fault, I was combining Furman and MErcer and maybe a little Samford....so I was thinking UGA or Clemspn....but Like you say, a loss to any SEC team (Sans Vandy) shouldn't be a blemish on any FCS school's record.

Chalupa Batman

November 5th, 2022, 12:47 PM

YOU’LL ACCEPT THE CIRCULAR LOGIC BIAS AND LIKE IT!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcJjlL3izVc

Yes, just like you expect me to accept the circular logic bias from the SOCON that Mercer is good and Chattanooga is good because they beat Mercer and Furman is good because they beat Chattanooga and Samford is good because they beat Furman and round & round we go.

NY Crusader 2010

November 5th, 2022, 01:24 PM

Awful playcall on 3rd and 13 for Lehigh unless you were planning on going for it on 4th down...

FUBeAR

November 5th, 2022, 01:26 PM

Yes, just like you expect me to accept the circular logic bias from the SOCON that Mercer is good and Chattanooga is good because they beat Mercer and Furman is good because they beat Chattanooga and Samford is good because they beat Furman and round & round we go.
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crusader11

November 5th, 2022, 04:31 PM

For argument’s sake, let’s say Weber loses this game to Sac St and wins their next two to finish 9-2.

Do they get a seed above 11-0 Holy Cross?

I can’t help but go through all of the scenarios in which HC could be looking at a top four seed.

Chalupa Batman

November 5th, 2022, 04:42 PM

For argument’s sake, let’s say Weber loses this game to Sac St and wins their next two to finish 9-2.

Do they get a seed above 11-0 Holy Cross?

I can’t help but go through all of the scenarios in which HC could be looking at a top four seed.

I don’t think Weber would be above HC, but the Crusaders would obviously be behind at least 2 SOCON teams.

crusader11

November 5th, 2022, 04:44 PM

I don’t think Weber would be above HC, but the Crusaders would obviously be behind at least 2 SOCON teams.

Definitely behind the team losing to VMI at the half.

taper

November 5th, 2022, 04:52 PM

Definitely behind the team losing to VMI at the half.
Be careful throwing stones after last week's game against Fordham.

crusader11

November 5th, 2022, 04:56 PM

Be careful throwing stones after last week's game against Fordham.

Fordham was ranked in the top 20 and 6-1 entering the game.

VMI is 1-7...

FUBeAR

November 5th, 2022, 05:32 PM

Fordham was ranked in the top 20 and 6-1 entering the game.

VMI is 1-7...
Like Holy Cross, VMI is undefeated in the Patriot League.

Chalupa Batman

November 5th, 2022, 05:35 PM

Like Holy Cross, VMI is undefeated in the Patriot League.

Well then, all the SOCON playoff teams MUST be seeded above HC. Anything else is an epic screw job.