Ivy League Week 8

[brownbear]

This is the first of 5 straight weeks of only games between Ivy League schools.

Here's the standings:

Yale 2-0 5-0
Harvard 2-0 3-2
Brown 1-1 2-3
Penn 1-1 2-3
Princeton 1-1 2-3
Dartmouth 1-1 1-4
Cornell 0-2 3-2
Columbia 0-2 1-4

And for this week's picks:

Columbia at Dartmouth - Dartmouth by 10

Brown at Cornell - Brown by 7

Princeton at Harvard - Harvard by 14

Yale at Penn - Yale by 17

[Ivytalk]

This is the first of 5 straight weeks of only games between Ivy League schools.

Here's the standings:

Yale 2-0 5-0
Harvard 2-0 3-2
Brown 1-1 2-3
Penn 1-1 2-3
Princeton 1-1 2-3
Dartmouth 1-1 1-4
Cornell 0-2 3-2
Columbia 0-2 1-4

And for this week's picks:

Columbia at Dartmouth - Dartmouth by 10

Brown at Cornell - Brown by 7

Princeton at Harvard - Harvard by 14

Yale at Penn - Yale by 17

I agree with the above results, but I think the Harvard-Princeton and Yale-Penn margins will be narrower. Princeton always plays us tough in Cambridge.

[bulldog10jw]

I agree with the above results, but I think the Harvard-Princeton and Yale-Penn margins will be narrower. Princeton always plays us tough in Cambridge.

I'm with you Ivytalk. I think Yale will win, but they haven't beaten Penn in Philly in a while. Close game.

I would rather play Princeton coming off a win. They will really be fired up because if they lose they are toast for this year. Another close game.

[YaleFootballFan]

I'm with you Ivytalk. I think Yale will win, but they haven't beaten Penn in Philly in a while. Close game.

I would rather play Princeton coming off a win. They will really be fired up because if they lose they are toast for this year. Another close game.

Yale hasn't won at Penn since 1990.

One more Ivy loss and Penn is pretty much out of the Ivy title race. They know what's at stake and they'll come into Saturday's game against Yale ready to play. Expect over 20,000 at Franklin Field, with lots of Yale fans making the trip down to Philly.

[blu-bulldog]

Hey guys, heres my 2 cents. On this upcoming Saturday.
Yale over Penn in a close one by 10
Harvard over Princeton by 17
Dartmouth over Columbia by 20
Brown over Cornell by 14

[bulldog10jw]

Hey guys, heres my 2 cents. On this upcoming Saturday.
Yale over Penn in a close one by 10
Harvard over Princeton by 17
Dartmouth over Columbia by 20
Brown over Cornell by 14

To paraphrase Ivytalk, I agree with your picks, but not your margins.

I think Harvard-Priceton will be a FG or 1 TD game.

Cornell should be able to stay close to Brown at home.

Dartmouth is better than Columbia, but I don't think 20 points better. Columbia will put on a better show after the embarrassment at Penn last Saturday.

In fact, I would not be surprised if every Ivy game was decided by a TD or less.

But I would be happy if you were right. xthumbsupx

[appfan2008]

will yale lose this year?

[bonarae]

Yale-Penn: Yale by 7 (close)
Harvard-Princeton: Harvard by 6
Dartmouth-Columbia: Dartmouth by 7
Cornell over Brown by 3 (close)

All should be close, but the two closest are marked with (close).

[bulldog10jw]

will yale lose this year?

If someone shuts down their running game and they have to depend on the pass, they certainly could lose. I'm not sure they are good enough to roll over everyone on the ground.

The defense is good and opportunistic, but they do give up yardage.

In other words, who knows? ;)

[VT Wildcat Fan53]

Just what you don't need, a CAA fan's uniformed picks:

Columbia at Dartmouth. Buddy's Big Green of Dartmouth get the Offense going, 45-17

Brown at Cornell. Estes gets Brown to .500 with big win out in Ithaca, 21-14.

Princeton at Harvard. Murphy's Harvard boys are in high gear now, galloping to a 45-28 victory at home. Harvard remains undefeated for all but 2 minutes of the season.

Yale at Penn - Yale by 17. Siedlecki stays perfect for all minutes of the season, Yale 46-14.

[YaleFootballFan]

will yale lose this year?

Hopefully not.

Yale hasn't had an undefeated season since 1968 (8-0-1) and an unbeaten/untied season since 1960 (9-0). Needless to say, it's been a while.

[brownbear]

Hopefully not.

Yale hasn't had an undefeated season since 1968 (8-0-1) and an unbeaten/untied season since 1960 (9-0). Needless to say, it's been a while.

And Yale hasn't gone 10-0 since 1909.

[blu-bulldog]

I don't like to forcast on a season. But if Yale is real ,this is the best test
for this team.I feel like a little kid before Christmas. I want to see this Yale team continue on it's quest.

[brownbear]

I don't like to forcast on a season. But if Yale is real ,this is the best test
for this team.I feel like a little kid before Christmas. I want to see this Yale team continue on it's quest.

In a way, I hope Yale is still undefeated when we play them so we can go into the bowl and give them their first loss and ruin their perfect season (if we don't get killed by them first).

[Ivytalk]

We got our 10-0 in 2004. Yale's really good, and I'd be pleased to see them get it. Although not as pleased as I'd be with 9-1 and a Harvard revenge win at the Bowl!:D :p

[bulldog10jw]

We got our 10-0 in 2004. Yale's really good, and I'd be pleased to see them get it. Although not as pleased as I'd be with 9-1 and a Harvard revenge win at the Bowl!:D :p

Hasn't Harvard had two perfect seasons under Murphy. Maybe 2000 or 2001.

Thought about it. Was it 2001 and a game was cancelled due to 9-11? 9-0 as opposed to 10-0?

[brownbear]

We got our 10-0 in 2004. Yale's really good, and I'd be pleased to see them get it. Although not as pleased as I'd be with 9-1 and a Harvard revenge win at the Bowl!:D :p

We've never had a perfect season, ever. Went 9-0-1 in 1926 and just barely missed going undefeated in 2005 with our only loss against Harvard in double OT. We can't be undefeated this year, so the top goal is to try and win the Ivy League, which is still possible due to our 1-1 record and the fact that the Ivy League doesn't do tiebreakers when it comes to titles.

[bulldog10jw]

We've never had a perfect season, ever. Went 9-0-1 in 1926 and just barely missed going undefeated in 2005 with our only loss against Harvard in double OT. We can't be undefeated this year, so the top goal is to try and win the Ivy League, which is still possible due to our 1-1 record and the fact that the Ivy League doesn't do tiebreakers when it comes to titles.

Brown also had 1 loss seasons in 1976 and 1999. I remember because Yale had 1 loss seasons those same years and in both cases Brown was the only loss and in both cases it was the opening game and then Yale swept the rest of the season. I don't know who Brown lost to in '99, but if I remember correctly in '76 they lost to a lousy Penn team on some kind of a fake punt (or something like that).

Yale has had a several 1 loss seasons since the last perfect season in 1960. They always lost either the first game (1967, 1976, 1999) or the 9th game (1968, 1974, 1979, 1981).

[brownbear]

Brown also had 1 loss seasons in 1976 and 1999. I remember because Yale had 1 loss seasons those same years and in both cases Brown was the only loss and in both cases it was the opening game and then Yale swept the rest of the season. I don't know who Brown lost to in '99, but if I remember correctly in '76 they lost to a lousy Penn team on some kind of a fake punt (or something like that).

Yale has had a several 1 loss seasons since the last perfect season in 1960. They always lost either the first game (1967, 1976, 1999) or the 9th game (1968, 1974, 1979, 1981).

The Penn game in 1976 was a fumbled punt with about four minutes left that Penn took advantage of and scored a touchdown. Penn won 7-6.

In 1999, Brown was beating Cornell 28-7 in the 3rd quarter but lost 33-28 for their only loss.

Brown also had one loss years in 1916, 1928, 1932, and 1949. In 1916, 1926, and 1932, Brown came in perfect into the last game of the season, all against Colgate, and Colgate spoiled all three seasons.

[blu-bulldog]

Urg those lousy red raiders. I would love to go to this game but I have to work.But I will be there for the Brown game and alas Harvard..

[Ivytalk]

Hasn't Harvard had two perfect seasons under Murphy. Maybe 2000 or 2001.

Thought about it. Was it 2001 and a game was cancelled due to 9-11? 9-0 as opposed to 10-0?

Right, bulldog. The '01 team went 9-0, with the Holy Cross game cancelled due to 9-11. Murph went 9-1 in '97, with the only loss to Bucknell.xeekx

[TheValleyRaider]

Brown also had one loss years in 1916, 1928, 1932, and 1949. In 1916, 1926, and 1932, Brown came in perfect into the last game of the season, all against Colgate, and Colgate spoiled all three seasons.


Urg those lousy red raiders.

I guess I now know at least one school that voted for Cornell over Colgate in the Ivy League's formation :D

[bulldog10jw]

The Penn game in 1976 was a fumbled punt with about four minutes left that Penn took advantage of and scored a touchdown. Penn won 7-6.

In 1999, Brown was beating Cornell 28-7 in the 3rd quarter but lost 33-28 for their only loss.

Brown also had one loss years in 1916, 1928, 1932, and 1949. In 1916, 1926, and 1932, Brown came in perfect into the last game of the season, all against Colgate, and Colgate spoiled all three seasons.


Wasn't 1932 the famous Colgate ''undefeated, untied, unscored-upon and uninvited'' team. Never knew that Brown was also unbeaten going into that game.

[brownbear]

Wasn't 1932 the famous Colgate ''undefeated, untied, unscored-upon and uninvited'' team. Never knew that Brown was also unbeaten going into that game.

Yes it was, and Colgate won the game 21-0

[bulldog10jw]

I guess I now know at least one school that voted for Cornell over Colgate in the Ivy League's formation :D

Actually, I don't know why the Ivies wanted Penn over Colgate. Penn played big time football with Bednarik etc. back then and didn't seem to be the fit Colgate would have been.

Plus we have now had 25 years of Penn accepting players with academics that are, to say the least, questionable.xsmhx

[brownbear]

Actually, I don't know why the Ivies wanted Penn over Colgate. Penn played big time football with Bednarik etc. back then and didn't seem to be the fit Colgate would have been.

Plus we have now had 25 years of Penn accepting players with academics that are, to say the least, questionable.xsmhx

Without Penn, some other teams in the Ivy League would have made March Madness for once.

[bulldog10jw]

Without Penn, some other teams in the Ivy League would have made March Madness for once.

Princeton would have gone 25 straight years. Weren't the P's always alternating 1st and 2nd all those years.

Although Brown did sneak in one year, didn't they?

[brownbear]

Princeton would have gone 25 straight years. Weren't the P's always alternating 1st and 2nd all those years.

Although Brown did sneak in one year, didn't they?

Brown went in 1986, got killed by Syracuse in the first round, and since 1988, it's been all Princeton and Penn.

[blu-bulldog]

I never knew that was the situation.My Dad never told me Colgate and Penn were voted on to get in the Ivy League.?Was there any other schools?.

[brownbear]

Wasn't Rutgers offered an invitation to join the Ivy League but turned it down?

[TheValleyRaider]

Wasn't Rutgers offered an invitation to join the Ivy League but turned it down?

That would be an appropriately "Rutgers" thing to do xlolx xlolx xlolx

And meanwhile Columbia screams "Wait, we didn't have to be in last all those years? Why Rutgers? Why!?!?"

[bulldog10jw]

Wasn't Rutgers offered an invitation to join the Ivy League but turned it down?


I would be surprised. The term "Ivy League", even before there WAS an Ivy League referred to old, established, PRIVATE, east coast universities that had been founded along with the founding of the country.

[YaleFootballFan]

Brown went in 1986, got killed by Syracuse in the first round, and since 1988, it's been all Princeton and Penn.

Don't forget, Yale shared the Ivy title with Penn and Princeton in 2001. It was the first time that a non-P won a piece of the Ivy men's basketball crown since Cornell won it all in '88.

This year we could very well see a team other than the P's win the Ivy title outright. Several college basketball publications have already predicted either Cornell or Yale to win the Ivy crown.

[blu-bulldog]

Helloooo how are ya.!! Nice article in the New Haven Register.On how Yale has gotten to this point.Let me know what you think.?..

[brownbear]

Brown is featured in this week's Sports Illustrated in the Who's Hot Who's Not page!

Who's Hot:

"Browns"

The Ivy Leaguers beat Princeton last Saturday while in Cleveland the Dawgs were barking... (rest of the paragraph about that team from Ohio)

However, next to the Browns headline was Who's Not: "Bears." Glad we weren't in that one about Cal and the Chicago Bears.

[bulldog10jw]

Helloooo how are ya.!! Nice article in the New Haven Register.On how Yale has gotten to this point.Let me know what you think.?..

http://www.nhregister.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18932002&BRD=1281&PAG=461&dept_id=517517&rfi=6

[brownbear]

http://www.nhregister.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18932002&BRD=1281&PAG=461&dept_id=517517&rfi=6

Wow, I didn't realize Yale has only thrown the ball 90 times this year. That's only 18 pass attempts per game. And to think Brown's throwing at least 50 per game.

[bulldog10jw]

Wow, I didn't realize Yale has only thrown the ball 90 times this year. That's only 18 pass attempts per game. And to think Brown's throwing at least 50 per game.


Makes me worry about what will happen if they HAVE to throw.

[blu-bulldog]

Ahhh, why did ya say it. Your abapt to burst my fantasy world man.
Hey they throw the ball when they have to.I'm telling you they have so much depth.4th stringers will be getting letters after the season.

[blu-bulldog]

Brownbear, are you coming to New Haven to see the game.

[bulldog10jw]

Yale-Penn: Yale by 7 (close)
Harvard-Princeton: Harvard by 6
Dartmouth-Columbia: Dartmouth by 7
Cornell over Brown by 3 (close)

All should be close, but the two closest are marked with (close).

This weeks best prediction. The two games marked as (close) both went into overtime. Good Job. xthumbsupx