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jajfitz
May 15th, 2022, 03:50 AM
Who is in eligible for which conference this season? 2023? It seems the Patriot, Ivy, and Pioneer are the only ones not losing/gaining a school.

FUBeAR
May 15th, 2022, 05:20 AM
Who is in eligible for which conference this season? 2023? It seems the Patriot, Ivy, and Pioneer are the only ones not losing/gaining a school.
No changes in the SoCon…yet. Same 9 for Football and 10 overall since 2014.

Chattanooga
ETSU
Furman
Mercer
Samford
The Citadel
UNC Greensboro (no Football)
VMI
Western Carolina
Wofford

Professor Chaos
May 15th, 2022, 09:22 AM
HERO Sports: FCS Conference Membership Guide For 2022 & 2023 (https://herosports.com/fcs-football-realignment-conference-membership-bzbz/)

KPSUL
May 15th, 2022, 10:01 PM
Monmouth and Hampton are both playing a full 8 game conference schedule so it makes sense that they are eligible for the CAA conference championship and the auto-bid. Not likely to be an issue, but stranger things have happened.

caribbeanhen
May 16th, 2022, 09:33 AM
Monmouth and Hampton are both playing a full 8 game conference schedule so it makes sense that they are eligible for the CAA conference championship and the auto-bid. Not likely to be an issue, but stranger things have happened.

8 game CAA schedule ?
what happens when everybody goes 4-4
Not likely but stranger things have happened

MR. CHICKEN
May 16th, 2022, 09:56 AM
......5 CAA TEAMS...WENT 4-4 IN CONFERENCE LAST SEASON.....xnodx.....AWK!

.....THERE WERE 2........3-5 TEAMS AN' 1........5-3.......BRAWK!

Libertine
May 16th, 2022, 10:42 AM
8 game CAA schedule ?
what happens when everybody goes 4-4
Not likely but stranger things have happened

Hampton isn't going 4-4 in the CAA.

NY Crusader 2010
May 16th, 2022, 02:25 PM
8 game CAA schedule ?
what happens when everybody goes 4-4
Not likely but stranger things have happened

Couldn't this theoretically happen in every conference with an even number of conference games played?

I remember one year in the Patriot League, an 8-way tie in Men's Basketball was a mathematically possible with about a week before the end of the season. I think it may have been 07-08.

MR. CHICKEN
May 16th, 2022, 03:32 PM
...JES' FO' GIGGLES...xlolx...CONFERENCES WHIFF 8 CONFERENCE GAMES LAST SEASON...THAT HAD TEAMS WHIFF 4-4 RECORDS:

BIG FLUFFY 2 TEAMS
CAA 5 TEAMS
MVFC 1 TEAM
PIONEER 1 TEAM
SOGONE 3 TEAMS
SOUTHLAND 0 TEAMS
SWAC 0 TEAMS

.....YEAH....HENRIETTAH'S IN CYPRESS, TX.......VISITIN' MAH DAUGHTER.......DUH CHICKEN IS JES' KILLIN' TIME...AN' OUTTAH TV DIN-DINS........:(......BRAWK!

KPSUL
May 16th, 2022, 03:35 PM
8 game CAA schedule ?
what happens when everybody goes 4-4
Not likely but stranger things have happened

That would be interesting. They would probably go through all the tie-breaking criteria and still have to flip a coin 4 or 5 times.

MR. CHICKEN
May 16th, 2022, 03:39 PM
That would be interesting. They would probably go through all the tie-breaking criteria and still have to flip a coin 4 or 5 times.

.....OR......MARTY COOD WORK HIS MAGIC.......xsighx.......BRAWK!!

KPSUL
May 16th, 2022, 07:43 PM
.....OR......MARTY COOD WORK HIS MAGIC.......xsighx.......BRAWK!!

Marty retires effective at the end of the 2021-22 academic year. So the CAA magic man will be golfing and fishing.

MR. CHICKEN
May 16th, 2022, 08:52 PM
.....DID HE DESTROY...DUH CLANDESTINE.........PICTURE FILE........xdontknowx........AWQ?

caribbeanhen
May 17th, 2022, 09:17 AM
That would be interesting. They would probably go through all the tie-breaking criteria and still have to flip a coin 4 or 5 times.

probably be three 6-2 teams that didn’t play each other

Is the 14 team CAA going to split into North and South for 2023 season ?

NY Crusader 2010
May 17th, 2022, 01:07 PM
probably be three 6-2 teams that didn’t play each other

Is the 14 team CAA going to split into North and South for 2023 season ?

More likely they create some system of "primary partners" But if they do go to divisions this makes most sense:

NORTH

1) Maine
2) UNH
3) URI
4) Albany
5) Stony Brook
6) Monmouth
7) Towson

SOUTH

1) Villanova
2) Delaware
3) William & Mary
4) Richmond
5) Hampton
6) NC A&T
7) Elon

kdinva
May 17th, 2022, 02:08 PM
This: play the 6 teams in your division, 3 from the other (if the math works)



More likely they create some system of "primary partners" But if they do go to divisions this makes most sense:

NORTH

1) Maine
2) UNH
3) URI
4) Albany
5) Stony Brook
6) Monmouth
7) Towson

SOUTH

1) Villanova
2) Delaware
3) William & Mary
4) Richmond
5) Hampton
6) NC A&T
7) Elon

ElCid
May 17th, 2022, 02:20 PM
This: play the 6 teams in your division, 3 from the other (if the math works)

That might work, but with 7 in the other division, have one rival in the other division to play every year (some exist already, others would need to be established), and then rotate through 2 teams per year of the other 6. So you play everyone at least every three years. That would ONLY leave two OOC in 11 game seasons.

KPSUL
May 17th, 2022, 06:40 PM
More likely they create some system of "primary partners" But if they do go to divisions this makes most sense:

NORTH

1) Maine
2) UNH
3) URI
4) Albany
5) Stony Brook
6) Monmouth
7) Towson

SOUTH

1) Villanova
2) Delaware
3) William & Mary
4) Richmond
5) Hampton
6) NC A&T
7) Elon

Split into two "conferences" in a way they could make an argument for an auto-bid for each. It is already the Colonial Athletic "Association" not Conference.

KPSUL
May 17th, 2022, 06:43 PM
.....DID HE DESTROY...DUH CLANDESTINE.........PICTURE FILE........xdontknowx........AWQ?

No way, that documentation and photography is securely stored in the state archives.

caribbeanhen
May 18th, 2022, 11:11 AM
More likely they create some system of "primary partners" But if they do go to divisions this makes most sense:

NORTH

1) Maine
2) UNH
3) URI
4) Albany
5) Stony Brook
6) Monmouth
7) Towson

SOUTH

1) Villanova
2) Delaware
3) William & Mary
4) Richmond
5) Hampton
6) NC A&T
7) Elon

this makes a lot of sense so probably won’t happen

taper
May 18th, 2022, 12:58 PM
More likely they create some system of "primary partners" But if they do go to divisions this makes most sense:

NORTH

1) Maine
2) UNH
3) URI
4) Albany
5) Stony Brook
6) Monmouth
7) Towson

SOUTH

1) Villanova
2) Delaware
3) William & Mary
4) Richmond
5) Hampton
6) NC A&T
7) Elon

Instead of divisions, wouldn't it make more sense for all CAA members to leave the CAAFC and directly sponsor football in an all sports conference?

KPSUL
May 18th, 2022, 04:17 PM
Instead of divisions, wouldn't it make more sense for all CAA members to leave the CAAFC and directly sponsor football in an all sports conference?

8 of the 2023 football members are already all sports CAA. (Elon, NCA&T, Hampton, W&M, DE, Towson, Monmouth, SB) URI and Villanova would look at it as a step down for their biggest sport on campus - Men's Basketball. UNH, and I'd guess Maine and Albany as well, are not interested in upgrading in any sport they play in the American East - they certainly would not want to incur the additional travel coasts of playing CAA teams in Virginia and NC. UNH best team for the past 3 season has clearly been Men's soccer and I believe the American East is on a par with the CAA in soccer anyway.

taper
May 19th, 2022, 11:07 AM
8 of the 2023 football members are already all sports CAA. (Elon, NCA&T, Hampton, W&M, DE, Towson, Monmouth, SB) URI and Villanova would look at it as a step down for their biggest sport on campus - Men's Basketball. UNH, and I'd guess Maine and Albany as well, are not interested in upgrading in any sport they play in the American East - they certainly would not want to incur the additional travel coasts of playing CAA teams in Virginia and NC. UNH best team for the past 3 season has clearly been Men's soccer and I believe the American East is on a par with the CAA in soccer anyway.
Right, I'm saying those 8 leave the CAAFC and have CAA directly sponsor FB with just those 8(and any future additions). As an alternative to divisions. There's a lot more to conference membership than just a home for your favorite or best sport.

AmsterBison
May 19th, 2022, 12:28 PM
8 game CAA schedule ?
what happens when everybody goes 4-4
Not likely but stranger things have happened

The only sure thing in that scenario is that New Hampshire would make the playoffs.

EKU05
May 19th, 2022, 02:39 PM
Right, I'm saying those 8 leave the CAAFC and have CAA directly sponsor FB with just those 8(and any future additions). As an alternative to divisions. There's a lot more to conference membership than just a home for your favorite or best sport.

To be clear, there is no CAAFC. The CAA already directly sponsors the sport...they just have associate members. It's not an arrangement like the MVFC where it's a separate legal entity.

taper
May 19th, 2022, 03:05 PM
To be clear, there is no CAAFC. The CAA already directly sponsors the sport...they just have associate members. It's not an arrangement like the MVFC where it's a separate legal entity.
I don't think that's true. While joined at the hip and sharing an office, CAA and CAAFC are legally separate entities. While vague, even their own site has separate lists for the CAA and CAAFB membership. They don't do that for any other associate members. It currently doesn't matter in any way, but it is an easy split if they decide to go that way.
https://caasports.com/sports/2014/5/16/caabio.aspx

ccd494
May 20th, 2022, 11:45 AM
To be clear, there is no CAAFC. The CAA already directly sponsors the sport...they just have associate members. It's not an arrangement like the MVFC where it's a separate legal entity.

Maine and UNH are charter members of CAA Football. They cannot be booted. If the (now) 8 CAA all sports members left CAA Football, Maine and UNH (and URI and Albany) could get a couple other schools and continue to participate as "CAA Football."

KPSUL
May 20th, 2022, 02:38 PM
Maine and UNH are charter members of CAA Football. They cannot be booted. If the (now) 8 CAA all sports members left CAA Football, Maine and UNH (and URI and Albany) could get a couple other schools and continue to participate as "CAA Football."

Thanks for clarifying that; I think you did so in an earlier thread as well.

UNH_Alum_In_CT
May 23rd, 2022, 09:49 AM
Maine and UNH are charter members of CAA Football. They cannot be booted. If the (now) 8 CAA all sports members left CAA Football, Maine and UNH (and URI and Albany) could get a couple other schools and continue to participate as "CAA Football."

Isn't URI also a charter member? Their membership goes all the way through the Yankee and A-10 Conference years. Or did they officially withdraw when they announced plans to go to the NEC? Did they lose charter member status over an announced withdrawal that never happened?