D-Backs are the Rodney Dangerfield of MLB

[AZGrizFan]

They get no respect!

Yet, here they are, up 1-0 on the mighty Cubbies, who everybody and their DAUGHTER predicted would win this series....Once again the Cubs questionable bullpen failed them miserably, and we didn't even GET to Dempster. xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

Zambrano pitched a hell of a game, and his teammates pissed it down their leg....

But that's ok, I hope the rest of the teams/writers/experts continue to understimate the lowly D-Backs....no experience, too much youth, no starting pitching (beyond Webb, of course), horrible batting average (29th in MLB), no pop, buncha rookies, soft division, etc., etc., etc. What people apparently forget is that the D-Backs LED MLB in 1-run victories (over 30), so they're used to pressure. They led MLB in Sac Flies, so they know how to manufacture runs. They LED MLB in pinch-hit homeruns this year, with 7. But they've also hit 20+ more home runs than the big bad Cubbies! We've got about eight or nine guys (it seems) with 12+ homers on the roster---Young, Byrnes, Reynolds, Clark, Drew, Snyder, Jackson, Owings (just kidding, seeing if anybody is paying attention).... their motto is Anybody, Anytime. In other words, you never know where the damage is gonna come from, so you can't overlook anybody.

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Anybody on the East Coast happen to catch the two BOMBS hit by those soft-hittin' rookies, Drew and Reynolds? WHO? xconfusedx xconfusedx xconfusedx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

[AZGrizFan]

bump...

You boys missed a hell of a game last night. xnodx xnodx xnodx xnodx

[JoltinJoe]

bump...

You boys missed a hell of a game last night. xnodx xnodx xnodx xnodx

So these Diamondbacks, you call them. Do they play in the Pacific Coast League? How did they do against the Salt Lake Bees this year? ;) xsmiley_wix

[GannonFan]

Come on, if Arizona was as dominant as you make them out to be, wouldn't they have done a little better than winning the NL West by one game? Heck, they were only 1 game better than the NL East winner and the Wild Card winner. Is Arizona good? Of course they are, but they aren't the Big Red Machine of the mid 70's either. People pick the Cubs because people like the Cubs - after not winning a title in 99 years, people tend to root for a team like that. No matter who the Cubs play, most of the nation will want the Cubs to win. That's just baseball.

[dbackjon]

It is not just who they are rooting for - if people want to root for pathetic losers like the Cubs, fine. But just about every "expert" is picking the Cubs to win. Experts have been picking the Dbacks to fade all year. Two weeks ago, Tony Gwynn did a big piece about how the Padres were the best team in the NL, and the Dbacks wouldn't even make the playoffs....

[GannonFan]

It is not just who they are rooting for - if people want to root for pathetic losers like the Cubs, fine. But just about every "expert" is picking the Cubs to win. Experts have been picking the Dbacks to fade all year. Two weeks ago, Tony Gwynn did a big piece about how the Padres were the best team in the NL, and the Dbacks wouldn't even make the playoffs....

Even the experts can be swayed by love for the Cubs. And in Gwynn's defense, it's not like he was all that far off - again, the D-backs were only one game better than the Padres and the Rockies - they didn't exactly coast into the postseason.

[dbackjon]

Even the experts can be swayed by love for the Cubs. And in Gwynn's defense, it's not like he was all that far off - again, the D-backs were only one game better than the Padres and the Rockies - they didn't exactly coast into the postseason.

They rested the starters last two games. If needed be, they could have taken two or three games in Colorado :D.

They won when needed. And the only reason the Scrubs MADE the playoffs is that they play in a pathetic division.

[Marcus Garvey]

Screw the D'Backs. They get no love for many reasons:
1) East Coast Bias (Actually, I don't subscribe to this theory, but it always riles sports fans west of the Rockies.)
2) Ugly-a$$ uniforms.... Red? Why not? Nobody else is wearing red in the National League! We'll be so friggin' unique!. Oh, and who else put's their unofficial nickname on their jerseys? "Phils?" "Yanks?" "ChiSox?" "Nats?" Nope. The A's stopped doing it over 20 years go.
3) They play in an airplane hangar: That's what Chase Field looks like as you drive out I-10 West on your way to L.A. That, and it's really nothing special. Until this year, they never opened the roof, no matter how nice the weather
4) Idiot fans who get up to grab some cotton candy, even though the bases are loaded and Eric Byrnes is at the plate! The ushers sill hold signs asking people not to walk to their seats until there's a break in action.
5) They get no love from their home-town fan base. They were 12th in the league in attendance this year. If they get no love at home, why should they expect it from the national media?

There.... I'm done. xthumbsupx

[Cleets]

It is not just who they are rooting for - if people want to root for pathetic losers like the Cubs, fine. But just about every "expert" is picking the Cubs to win. Experts have been picking the Dbacks to fade all year. Two weeks ago, Tony Gwynn did a big piece about how the Padres were the best team in the NL, and the Dbacks wouldn't even make the playoffs....

I looked at this match-up and picked the D-backs...

Here's why:

1) Cub factor (this can't be ignored)
2) D-backs hit for more power (check that...!!!! it's true) more doubles more homers
3) Younger faster hungry... xbowx this can't be measured but matters
4) to dumb to know they shouldn't win (Hey, they said it not me)

[AZGrizFan]

Even the experts can be swayed by love for the Cubs. And in Gwynn's defense, it's not like he was all that far off - again, the D-backs were only one game better than the Padres and the Rockies - they didn't exactly coast into the postseason.

And yet they had the best record in the National League. xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx xthumbsupx

[AZGrizFan]

Screw the D'Backs. They get no love for many reasons:
1) East Coast Bias (Actually, I don't subscribe to this theory, but it always riles sports fans west of the Rockies.)
2) Ugly-a$$ uniforms.... Red? Why not? Nobody else is wearing red in the National League! We'll be so friggin' unique!. Oh, and who else put's their unofficial nickname on their jerseys? "Phils?" "Yanks?" "ChiSox?" "Nats?" Nope. The A's stopped doing it over 20 years go.
3) They play in an airplane hangar: That's what Chase Field looks like as you drive out I-10 West on your way to L.A. That, and it's really nothing special. Until this year, they never opened the roof, no matter how nice the weather
4) Idiot fans who get up to grab some cotton candy, even though the bases are loaded and Eric Byrnes is at the plate! The ushers sill hold signs asking people not to walk to their seats until there's a break in action.
5) They get no love from their home-town fan base. They were 12th in the league in attendance this year. If they get no love at home, why should they expect it from the national media?

There.... I'm done. xthumbsupx

1) Now you've done it....I am PISSED!
2) Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa....it's not red, it's SEDONA Red. xcoolx xcoolx xcoolx And they uniforms aren't wide enough to put Diamondbacks across the front.
3) But you have to admit, it's a DAMNED nice airplane hangar...I mean, it has a POOL, for God's sake!!!.... xeyebrowx
4) Those fans getting up are all fans of the OTHER team...we've tried to teach them, but they just don't know any better.....
5) But they were UP over 225,000 fans this year over the past two years....not bad for the front office pissing off half the town in the last 12 months. xcoolx xcoolx xcoolx

[Marcus Garvey]

1) Now you've done it....I am PISSED!
2) Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa....it's not red, it's SEDONA Red. xcoolx xcoolx xcoolx And they uniforms aren't wide enough to put Diamondbacks across the front.
3) But you have to admit, it's a DAMNED nice airplane hangar...I mean, it has a POOL, for God's sake!!!.... xeyebrowx
4) Those fans getting up are all fans of the OTHER team...we've tried to teach them, but they just don't know any better.....
5) But they were UP over 225,000 fans this year over the past two years....not bad for the front office pissing off half the town in the last 12 months. xcoolx xcoolx xcoolx

Counter-Counterpoints:
1) I got nothing here
2) Sedona Red? That's like Strawberry Shortcake arguing her outfit is "lightish red" as opposed to pink. And last I checked, "San Francisco" has the same number of letters as "Diamondbacks," plus a space. The Giants manage to get that on their uniforms.
3) The presence of the pool only perpetuates the stereotype that Phoenix sports fans don't really give a crap about their teams.
4) Those idiot fans of other teams are, strangely enough, wearing D'Backs gear.
5) Yes, they drew 225,000 more, but that only illustrates the point that they draw "really *****y" when they suck. When they're good, their attendance is simply "*****y."
xsmiley_wix

[AZGrizFan]

Counter-Counterpoints:
1) I got nothing here
2) Sedona Red? That's like Strawberry Shortcake arguing her outfit is "lightish red" as opposed to pink. And last I checked, "San Francisco" has the same number of letters as "Diamondbacks," plus a space. The Giants manage to get that on their uniforms.
3) The presence of the pool only perpetuates the stereotype that Phoenix sports fans don't really give a crap about their teams.
4) Those idiot fans of other teams are, strangely enough, wearing D'Backs gear.
5) Yes, they drew 225,000 more, but that only illustrates the point that they draw "really *****y" when they suck. When they're good, their attendance is simply "*****y."
xsmiley_wix

Bring on the hate.... xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx
1) Case closed.
2) Yeah, but, but, the San Francisco is a REALLY ugly font.
3) The presence of the pool is because it's 117 out during most of the baseball season. xeekx xeekx
4) That's because they're idiots. xoopsx xoopsx
5) Hey, I remember when 2 million fans used to be the benchmark of success? xconfusedx xconfusedx xconfusedx xcoolx xcoolx

[Marcus Garvey]

5) Hey, I remember when 2 million fans used to be the benchmark of success? xconfusedx xconfusedx xconfusedx xcoolx xcoolx

Excellent point. Remember when it was 1 million? Until the mid 90's, the Expos attendance stayed steady around 1 Mil. The problem was the benchmark was raised and the Expos attendance didn't rise with the rest of baseball. When they moved, I found that baseball fans out west, who weren't familiar the Expos, refused to believe that at one time, it was a healthy, popular franchise in Montreal.

[JoltinJoe]

Excellent point. Remember when it was 1 million? Until the mid 90's, the Expos attendance stayed steady around 1 Mil. The problem was the benchmark was raised and the Expos attendance didn't rise with the rest of baseball. When they moved, I found that baseball fans out west, who weren't familiar the Expos, refused to believe that at one time, it was a healthy, popular franchise in Montreal.

The Expos did about 2.5 million in a couple of years during the 1980s.

Baseball was taking off in Montreal before greed and strikes killed it.

[Col Hogan]

The Expos did about 2.5 million in a couple of years during the 1980s.

Baseball was taking off in Montreal before greed and strikes killed it.

If by greed you mean an owner who was a complete idiot and totally alienated his fan base...then you are most correct...xbowx

The Expos could have/should have been a big success story...but the owner (I forgot his name) severly p'ed off his fans to the point they refused to come back...xnonono2x

[Marcus Garvey]

If by greed you mean an owner who was a complete idiot and totally alienated his fan base...then you are most correct...xbowx

The Expos could have/should have been a big success story...but the owner (I forgot his name) severly p'ed off his fans to the point they refused to come back...xnonono2x

Do you mean the last owner, Jeffery Loria? There's a lot of evidence to support the argument that Loria deliberitely pissed off the fanbase and drove them away, while in collusion with MLB, to devalue the shares of his limited partners, thus giving him control of the club and precipitating their relocation.

MLB, specifically Bud Selig, has blood on their hands with respect to the destruction of National League franchise in Montreal.

Incidently, what Loria did is only possible in MLB. None of the other major sports leagues enjoy the level of anti-trust exemption that they do, which allowed this.

[JoltinJoe]

If by greed you mean an owner who was a complete idiot and totally alienated his fan base...then you are most correct...xbowx

The Expos could have/should have been a big success story...but the owner (I forgot his name) severly p'ed off his fans to the point they refused to come back...xnonono2x

Yes, that's exactly what I mean. The owner's name is Jeff Loria, who is now in the process of destroying baseball in Miami.

[AZGrizFan]

Ah, yes. Another boring win by the Diamondbacks. 8-4 this time, with Ted Lilly the victim. Anybody happen to see the absolute BOMB hit by Chris Young in the second inning? Yeah, the BOMB hit by the light hitting, no offense, too young to have a chance Diamondbacks. The Cubs, the pride of America, the sweetheart pick of every major sportscaster and expert in the friggin' country, have their backs against the wall and now must win 3 straight just to move on....

The curse of the billygoat lives!!!!!

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[bulldog10jw]

Ah, yes. Another boring win by the Diamondbacks. 8-4 this time, with Ted Lilly the victim. Anybody happen to see the absolute BOMB hit by Chris Young in the second inning? Yeah, the BOMB hit by the light hitting, no offense, too young to have a chance Diamondbacks. The Cubs, the pride of America, the sweetheart pick of every major sportscaster and expert in the friggin' country, have their backs against the wall and now must win 3 straight just to move on....

The curse of the billygoat lives!!!!!

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MLB CANNOT be happy at the prospect of either the D-Backs or the Rockies in the World Series. Too bad.xbawlingx....xlolx

[GannonFan]

Ah, yes. Another boring win by the Diamondbacks. 8-4 this time, with Ted Lilly the victim. Anybody happen to see the absolute BOMB hit by Chris Young in the second inning? Yeah, the BOMB hit by the light hitting, no offense, too young to have a chance Diamondbacks. The Cubs, the pride of America, the sweetheart pick of every major sportscaster and expert in the friggin' country, have their backs against the wall and now must win 3 straight just to move on....

The curse of the billygoat lives!!!!!

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Are people out West just always paranoid???? I just checked the SI website and their "experts" actually were pretty split before the series - 6 said the Diamondbacks were going to win and 5 said the Cubs were going to win. Granted, they all weren't worshipping at the altar of the Diamondbacks, but that's a little different than your contention that every expet was picking the Cubs. And it's not even like the Cubs are an East Coast team so you can't blame that bias this time. xcoffeex

[dbackjon]

I wonder what excuse Jay Mariotti will come up with today - will he still call us the "Arizona Smoke and Mirrors",,,, xlolx


Will Yahoo.com writers still predict that Lou Pinella's "Superior Managing Skills" will win the series??

[NE MT GRIZZ]

And the only reason the Scrubs MADE the playoffs is that they play in a pathetic division.


DBack,

Remember which division has won the NL pennant the last 3 years?xthumbsupx

[dbackjon]

DBack,

Remember which division has won the NL pennant the last 3 years?xthumbsupx


Which just happened to be the three rebuilding years of the Dbacks...


Regardless of what happened in the past, you have to admit that the NL Central was by far the weakest division in MLB.

[dbackjon]

And where was the NL Central the 13 years before that.... :D

[NE MT GRIZZ]

Which just happened to be the three rebuilding years of the Dbacks...


Regardless of what happened in the past, you have to admit that the NL Central was by far the weakest division in MLB.

I do admit it was putrid this year
xbawlingx

It's hard to say because I'm a Cards fan.

I can't speak for the rest of the Divison, but LaRussa managed the Cardinals out of 2 other World Series births the last 13 years.
1996 against the Braves, and against the Mets in 2000 (I think)

[dbackjon]

I do admit it was putrid this year
xbawlingx

It's hard to say because I'm a Cards fan.

I can't speak for the rest of the Divison, but LaRussa managed the Cardinals out of 2 other World Series births the last 13 years.
1996 against the Braves, and against the Mets in 2000 (I think)

But he did manage to win the WS last year, which the Cards had no business winning...

[dbackjon]

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http://www.gifninja.com/Workspace/88c20d7e-39a7-4c75-a07e-7f5beb88c4e1/output.gif

[AZGrizFan]

Are people out West just always paranoid???? I just checked the SI website and their "experts" actually were pretty split before the series - 6 said the Diamondbacks were going to win and 5 said the Cubs were going to win. Granted, they all weren't worshipping at the altar of the Diamondbacks, but that's a little different than your contention that every expet was picking the Cubs. And it's not even like the Cubs are an East Coast team so you can't blame that bias this time. xcoffeex

Who reads SI's website?

Go to espn.com, and pick the AZ/Cubs series. 8 of the 10 "experts" have the Cubs winning. xwhistlex xwhistlex xwhistlex

Just because we're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get us. xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx

[GannonFan]

Who reads SI's website?

Go to espn.com, and pick the AZ/Cubs series. 8 of the 10 "experts" have the Cubs winning. xwhistlex xwhistlex xwhistlex

Just because we're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get us. xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx xeyebrowx


ESPN??? Do they cover sports now? When did this happen???? xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

[AZGrizFan]

ESPN??? Do they cover sports now? When did this happen???? xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx


Relatively new development in the last 25 years or so.... xcoolx

It's on the "Ocho".

[Cleets]

xlolx

http://www.gifninja.com/Workspace/88c20d7e-39a7-4c75-a07e-7f5beb88c4e1/output.gif

That ball was CRUSHED..!!! xbowx

[citdog]

That ball was CRUSHED..!!! xbowx


it sure was, nice reaction by ted lilly. be a freaking pro douchey

[AZGrizFan]

That ball was CRUSHED..!!! xbowx

CY can flat MASH. xnodx xnodx xnodx xnodx

[Cleets]

CY can flat MASH. xnodx xnodx xnodx xnodx

That kid in Right Field is Lightening Fast..!!!!

(I love this young Diamond Backs team...!!!!) Too much fun

[GannonFan]

Relatively new development in the last 25 years or so.... xcoolx

It's on the "Ocho".

Must have missed that sports segment with all the poker and Stuart Scott they normally show. xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

[AZGrizFan]

That kid in Right Field is Lightening Fast..!!!!

(I love this young Diamond Backs team...!!!!) Too much fun

This was the original intent of Jerry Colangelo. Remember the "Babybacks"? He couldn't wait that long, however, and ended up going the veteran route to get his first WS ring....

This team should be good for a LONG time. That's the beauty of it. Reminds me of the Indians back in the day when they had a bunch of young talent locked up for years at relatively reasonable prices....

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It's a pleasure to actually watch BASEBALL, and not a bunch of prima donnas in a home run derby....

[bodoyle]

I'm glad I slepped $250 down on the DBacks. Who the hell didn't see this? The scrubs never did well against good pitching all year long. They did so-so in their own division. THE WORST DIVISION IN BASEBALL! This was a common sense bet.

Can't wait to see all the loser scrub fans crying in their appletini's saturday.

Hell, they already lost more playoff games than the White Sox did in their 2005 World Series run.

[bodoyle]

I wonder what excuse Jay Mariotti will come up with today - will he still call us the "Arizona Smoke and Mirrors",,,, xlolx


Will Yahoo.com writers still predict that Lou Pinella's "Superior Managing Skills" will win the series??

For the love of God don't tell me you waste your time reading Mariotti in the Sun Times? That's 5 minutes you can never get back.

[Marcus Garvey]

For the love of God don't tell me you waste your time reading Mariotti in the Sun Times? That's 5 minutes you can never get back.

Does anyone else get the impression that Mariotti moves his lips when he reads?

[bodoyle]

Does anyone else get the impression that Mariotti moves his lips when he reads?

I think Eddie Munster moves his lips when he types.

[NE MT GRIZZ]

?

Go to espn.com, and pick the AZ/Cubs series. 8 of the 10 "experts" have the Cubs winning. xwhistlex xwhistlex xwhistlex
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Last year, the only "expert" from ESPN to pick the Cards to win ANY series, was Jayson Stark. Even he picked the Pads and Mets in the first two rounds.

[bobcatfan06]

I didn't read the whole thread, I just want to say for the record, I hate the Cubs, Red Sox and Yankees. Nothing would make me happier than a Cle-Ana ALCS and a Rockies-DBacks NLCS.

[AZGrizFan]

I didn't read the whole thread, I just want to say for the record, I hate the Cubs, Red Sox and Yankees. Nothing would make me happier than a Cle-Ana ALCS and a Rockies-DBacks NLCS.

My sentiments exactly.

bobcatfan06---my new best friend. xnodx xthumbsupx