Sports Network Top 25

[TexasTerror]

Did not see this posted yet. Apologize if a double post...

Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. Montana Grizzlies (52) 4-0 2,573 1
2. Northern Iowa Panthers (23) 5-0 2,564 3
3. North Dakota State Bison (19) 4-0 2,496 4
4. Massachusetts Minutemen (11) 4-1 2,422 2
5. Appalachian State Mountaineers (2) 4-1 2,294 5
6. McNeese State Cowboys (7) 4-0 2,236 6
7. Southern Illinois Salukis (2) 5-0 2,115 7
8. Wofford Terriers (3) 4-1 2,084 8
9. James Madison Dukes 4-1 1,878 9
10. Youngstown State Penguins 4-1 1,811 10
11. Delaware Blue Hens 5-0 1,693 12
12. Hofstra Pride 4-0 1,376 14
13. Montana State Bobcats 3-1 1,229 18
14. Richmond Spiders 3-1 1,041 25
15. New Hampshire Wildcats 2-2 895 11
16. Eastern Illinois Panthers 3-2 894 19
17. Nicholls State Colonels 3-1 785 23
18. Yale Bulldogs 3-0 746 22
19. Sam Houston State Bearkats 2-2 744 15
20. Delaware State Hornets 3-1 652 NR
21. Hampton Pirates 3-1 587 13
22. Western Illinois Leathernecks 3-2 566 17
23. Illinois State Redbirds 2-3 339 16
24. Cal Poly Mustangs 3-2 289 NR
25. Southern Jaguars 5-0 279 NR
Others receiving votes: The Citadel 261, Eastern Washington 180, Georgia Southern 118, Lehigh 109, Furman 86, South Carolina State 75, Grambling 65, Alabama A&M 57, Lafayette 54, San Diego 52, Elon 47, Eastern Kentucky 31, Portland State 26, Princeton 19, Villanova 17, Drake 16, Gardner-Webb 10, Tennessee Tech 7, Norfolk State 5, South Dakota State 5, Towson 5, Missouri State 3, Northwestern State 3, UC Davis 3, Alabama State 2, Morgan State 1, Northern Arizona 1.

[WMTribe90]

Hofstra and Montana too high again, but UR getting a little more respect in this poll. This poll also got Furman right.

Small gripe from a homer standpoint. WM is not a top 25 team right now, but no way Towson at 2-3 (0-3) should be recieving votes over WM 3-2 (1-1) with losses to UD and VT. If WM beats Villanova next week I would then expect us to crack the top 30 (26 - 30 range).

[Eaglegus2]

Hofstra and Montana too high again, but UR getting a little more respect in this poll. This poll also got Furman right.

Small gripe from a homer standpoint. WM is not a top 25 team right now, but no way Towson at 2-3 (0-3) should be recieving votes over WM 3-2 (1-1) with losses to UD and VT. If WM beats Villanova next week I would then expect us to crack the top 30 (26 - 30 range).

This I can agree with.xthumbsupx

[Khan4Cats]

Wow, 9 points separating Montana and UNI despite better than 2 to 1 ratio in 1st place votes. Seems voters either had Montana #1 or not in the top 3.

[gophoenix]

Hofstra and Montana too high again, but UR getting a little more respect in this poll. This poll also got Furman right.

Small gripe from a homer standpoint. WM is not a top 25 team right now, but no way Towson at 2-3 (0-3) should be recieving votes over WM 3-2 (1-1) with losses to UD and VT. If WM beats Villanova next week I would then expect us to crack the top 30 (26 - 30 range).

How does Furman get votes? 1 win over a transition school and that is it? By the account, why shouldn't Western Carolina be getting votes too?

At least they finally got The Citadel where they should have been.

[WMTribe90]

How does Furman get votes? 1 win over a transition school and that is it? By the account, why shouldn't Western Carolina be getting votes too?

At least they finally got The Citadel where they should have been.

Sorry, by getting it "right" I meant outside the top 25. I agree, Furman shouldn't even be receiving votes at this point.

[ElonPride]

El Cid still sits outside the top 25, doesn't make sense at all.

I also haven't seen a team with a losing record 5 games in ranked in some time (Illinois St #23).

[skinny_uncle]

Eight different teams still getting first place votes.

[andy7171]

Sorry, by getting it "right" I meant outside the top 25. I agree, Furman shouldn't even be receiving votes at this point.

As a Towson fan, I hereby award you our 5 votes received. Hopefully you can make them work for you. You beat us in an exciting game, my face looks like a red and white racoon as a witness.

[Death Dealer]

God I hate when we are losing. You even start getting fans from *****holes like Elon dogging on your school.xoopsx

[AZGrizFan]

Did not see this posted yet. Apologize if a double post...

Team (First-place votes) Record Points Previous Rank
1. Montana Grizzlies (52) 4-0 2,573 1
2. Northern Iowa Panthers (23) 5-0 2,564 3
3. North Dakota State Bison (19) 4-0 2,496 4
4. Massachusetts Minutemen (11) 4-1 2,422 2
5. Appalachian State Mountaineers (2) 4-1 2,294 5
6. McNeese State Cowboys (7) 4-0 2,236 6
7. Southern Illinois Salukis (2) 5-0 2,115 7
8. Wofford Terriers (3) 4-1 2,084 8
9. James Madison Dukes 4-1 1,878 9
10. Youngstown State Penguins 4-1 1,811 10
11. Delaware Blue Hens 5-0 1,693 12
12. Hofstra Pride 4-0 1,376 14
13. Montana State Bobcats 3-1 1,229 18
14. Richmond Spiders 3-1 1,041 25
15. New Hampshire Wildcats 2-2 895 11
16. Eastern Illinois Panthers 3-2 894 19
17. Nicholls State Colonels 3-1 785 23
18. Yale Bulldogs 3-0 746 22
19. Sam Houston State Bearkats 2-2 744 15
20. Delaware State Hornets 3-1 652 NR
21. Hampton Pirates 3-1 587 13
22. Western Illinois Leathernecks 3-2 566 17
23. Illinois State Redbirds 2-3 339 16
24. Cal Poly Mustangs 3-2 289 NR
25. Southern Jaguars 5-0 279 NR
Others receiving votes: The Citadel 261, Eastern Washington 180, Georgia Southern 118, Lehigh 109, Furman 86, South Carolina State 75, Grambling 65, Alabama A&M 57, Lafayette 54, San Diego 52, Elon 47, Eastern Kentucky 31, Portland State 26, Princeton 19, Villanova 17, Drake 16, Gardner-Webb 10, Tennessee Tech 7, Norfolk State 5, South Dakota State 5, Towson 5, Missouri State 3, Northwestern State 3, UC Davis 3, Alabama State 2, Morgan State 1, Northern Arizona 1.


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[andy7171]

God I hate when we are losing. You even start getting fans from *****holes like Elon dogging on your school.xoopsx

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[Mountain Panther]

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Doesn't this just piss you people off?


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Yep, you Griz fans FINALLY got what you wanted after ALL your b*tching and complaining.......xnonono2x
























xsmiley_wix I hope people can sense my sarcasm better than AZGrizFan's

[ASUG8]

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Doesn't this just piss you people off?


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Nope - congrats on your newly painted target that we've had for two years. Everybody will be gunning for you, and you have nowhere to go but down. Good luck maintaining that #1 all season - you're in some strong company.

[gophoenix]

God I hate when we are losing. You even start getting fans from *****holes like Elon dogging on your school.xoopsx

Solution, win some games. Against us, heck, against anyone in our division. From a polling perspective, I don't see how you guys should be ranked voer half the country right now.

[unigriff]

I have MSU beating Montana (cuz Drakes former coach is there!) MSU 30 Montana 24.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I don't see how Montana is getting all this love. I don't even have them in my top 8.

Though, I'm glad to see Lehigh slowly but surely climb up the "Others Receiving Votes". xnodx

But please explain to me how Georgia Southern got ahead of us? xconfusedx Has everyone already forgotten the struggle of a win against Coastal and the loss to Chattanooga? xoopsx

[ElonPride]

God I hate when we are losing. You even start getting fans from *****holes like Elon dogging on your school.xoopsx

Win some games then like the old days!!!xnodx

By the way, how's Elon a "s-hole" school anyway?

[Death Dealer]

Solution, win some games. Against us, heck, against anyone in our division. From a polling perspective, I don't see how you guys should be ranked voer half the country right now.
Neither do I. That's why we aren't in my top 25 poll. I was just commenting on the fact that it sucks when even the perpetual bottom feeders get to take pot shots at you. Now I know what it's like being a GSU fan last year. And don't worry, we'll get around to KYA soon enough. xlolx It's years like this that make me thank God for weak sisters on our schedule. xwhistlex Oh pity.:(

[GolfingGriz]

God I hate when we are losing. You even start getting fans from *****holes like Elon dogging on your school.xoopsx

We're winning and everyone is dogging on us. strange, i guess we will just have to keep winning. will we get any credit from fans of other teams if we can beat a good eastern washington team?

[gophoenix]

Neither do I. That's why we aren't in my top 25 poll. I was just commenting on the fact that it sucks when even the perpetual bottom feeders get to take pot shots at you. Now I know what it's like being a GSU fan last year. And don't worry, we'll get around to KYA soon enough. xlolx It's years like this that make me thank God for weak sisters on our schedule. xwhistlex Oh pity.:(

The days of SoCon and weak sisters and perpetual bottom feeders is over.

[citdog]

I'd like to have the ENTIRE SPORTS NETWORK STAFF drive by my room at 2230 for a little "attitude adjustment". how The Citadel is not in this poll is beyond me.

[OL FU]

The days of SoCon and weak sisters and perpetual bottom feeders is over.

I hope. I would hate to think there has been a permanent switch in typical positionsxbawlingx

[GannonFan]

We're winning and everyone is dogging on us. strange, i guess we will just have to keep winning. will we get any credit from fans of other teams if we can beat a good eastern washington team?

Well, unfortunately, the bloom is off the rose for EWU after they lost to Portland St at home last week. It's not like Portland St (1-3 before that game) was exciting anybody either.

[GolfingGriz]

Well, unfortunately, the bloom is off the rose for EWU after they lost to Portland St at home last week. It's not like Portland St (1-3 before that game) was exciting anybody either.
xlolx xlolx thanks for clarifying that so i don't expect to get any respect next week. i guess we'll just have to keep on winning.xrotatehx xrotatehx

[mlbowl]

Well, unfortunately, the bloom is off the rose for EWU after they lost to Portland St at home last week. It's not like Portland St (1-3 before that game) was exciting anybody either.


Yeah...They must suck nowxrolleyesx

[GannonFan]

Yeah...They must suck nowxrolleyesx

Well, they are in the Big Sky and not named "Montana" - isn't that implied??? xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx :p :p :p :p

[mlbowl]

Well, they are in the Big Sky and not named "Montana" - isn't that implied??? xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx :p :p :p :p


OK...I'll concede that onexlolx

[DOME]

That is crazy how so many teams are still getting first place votes.
It would be nice if ADs would schedule some FCS power match ups in the preseason. I want to see UNI v Montana and SIU v App St. or Umass v NDSU. That would help settle some of these gripes.
USC finds time to visit Lincoln Neb and TCU finds time to play Texas why shouldn't we find time for matchups like that?

[GannonFan]

That is crazy how so many teams are still getting first place votes.
It would be nice if ADs would schedule some FCS power match ups in the preseason. I want to see UNI v Montana and SIU v App St. or Umass v NDSU. That would help settle some of these gripes.
USC finds time to visit Lincoln Neb and TCU finds time to play Texas why shouldn't we find time for matchups like that?

Well, first of all, you don't really see that many intersectional, bigtime games in FBS - for every USC at Nebraska you have 10 games against the Sun Belt. And as for our level, travel is a big issue, so you aren't going to have too many teams trekking cross country to play those games in the regular season. Besides, we at least have the playoffs to settle these differences - polls don't really matter when the champion is decided on the field. xpeacex

[Eaglesrus]

I don't see how Montana is getting all this love. I don't even have them in my top 8.

Though, I'm glad to see Lehigh slowly but surely climb up the "Others Receiving Votes". xnodx

But please explain to me how Georgia Southern got ahead of us? xconfusedx Has everyone already forgotten the struggle of a win against Coastal and the loss to Chattanooga? xoopsx

I won't say that I can explain it, but assuming you really wanted an answer, my guesses would be that 1) your opposition so far isn't considered to have been all that tough, either, 2) if I saw your results correctly you haven't really beat up on anybody, and 3) while it shouldn't play in, I think that name recognition based on historical performance is still a factor in these polls.

[Drblankstare]

I have a question. Can anyone other than a Montana fan tell me how good Montana really is this year? Or if your a realistic Montana fan. We are four games into the season, and i dont think anyone has a real understanding if they are for real, or just playing subpar oppents.

[Death Dealer]

I'd like to have the ENTIRE SPORTS NETWORK STAFF drive by my room at 2230 for a little "attitude adjustment". how The Citadel is not in this poll is beyond me.
I was thinking the same thing!xoopsx

[walliver]

That is crazy how so many teams are still getting first place votes.
It would be nice if ADs would schedule some FCS power match ups in the preseason. I want to see UNI v Montana and SIU v App St. or Umass v NDSU. That would help settle some of these gripes.
USC finds time to visit Lincoln Neb and TCU finds time to play Texas why shouldn't we find time for matchups like that?

The "big time" BCS schools need to finish #1 and #2 (possibly #3) to have a chance at a "National Championship". Tough OOC games can help.

In FCS, an OOC loss (even to a great team like ASU, UNI, etc) could be enough to keep you out of the playoffs. You are better off playing a so-so OOC FCS team, so you can lose 2 (or 3) conference games and still go to the playoffs with a shot to win it all.

[walliver]

I'd like to have the ENTIRE SPORTS NETWORK STAFF drive by my room at 2230 for a little "attitude adjustment". how The Citadel is not in this poll is beyond me.

Although I would put the Citadel in the top 15-20, there is the problem of "who did you beat?"

Beating North Charleston Southern, The Webber Grill Company, and UTC doesn't impress people much. Your other game was a loss.

I can't explain, either, why a team that has 3 losses and only one win (against a D-2 team in its D-I exploratory year is getting votes in the same vacinity)

On the bright side, you won't have to worry about dropping out of the poll after next Saturday's loss.:D

[uofmman1122]

I have a question. Can anyone other than a Montana fan tell me how good Montana really is this year? Or if your a realistic Montana fan. We are four games into the season, and i dont think anyone has a real understanding if they are for real, or just playing subpar oppents.Whether or not I'm a realistic Griz fan can be debated, but I know we have the potential to live up to our #1 ranking, but it hasn't come out just yet. From what I've seen, we honestly shouldn't be #1, which I'm fine with, but I'd say top 5, easy. EWU will be a good way to measure, unless they've somehow became over-rated, too. xlolx xlolx xlolx

[putter]

I have a question. Can anyone other than a Montana fan tell me how good Montana really is this year? Or if your a realistic Montana fan. We are four games into the season, and i dont think anyone has a real understanding if they are for real, or just playing subpar oppents.

FWIW, I have had the Griz ranked #5 from pre-season to now based on my need to see the OLine improve and the new QB Bergquist. So far this year Bergquist has lived up to potential and more, he is solid. The O Line is still 50-50 for me because the Griz can really move the ball between the 20's but struggled to put the ball in the endzone against Weber. That was more penalties rathern than lack of execution and the Griz D is a solid as they have been for 3 years. If this O can get going in conference they are legitimately a top 5 team, if not then 6-10 will be warranted.

[katstrapper]

We're winning and everyone is dogging on us. strange, i guess we will just have to keep winning. will we get any credit from fans of other teams if we can beat a good eastern washington team?


North Dakota St should be ranked number one. They would beat both teams ahead of them.

[lizrdgizrd]

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Doesn't this just piss you people off?


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No way! I told you I'm totally converted! I'm wearing maroon underwear as we spe...type. xnodx

[bustingnut]

North Dakota St should be ranked number one. They would beat both teams ahead of them.

Yep, and lose to some behind them.

[katstrapper]

Yep, and lose to some behind them.

Like who? They have shown they will/can go anywhere and play ball. They have already beatin' the Griz on their turf before they moved up. They took the punch from us and got up and ended up winning.

Montana's opponents are a combined 1-14 with another home game to go.

[citdog]

God I hate when we are losing. You even start getting fans from *****holes like Elon dogging on your school.xoopsx

wait until oct 13 when the biggest *****hole school on the planet, to a Furple, puts one on you! xlolx xnodx xrotatehx :) :D

[mlbowl]

North Dakota St should be ranked number one. They would beat both teams ahead of them.


What an idiotic thing to say....I could accept could or even should...but to state it as factxnutsx

[Death Dealer]

wait until oct 13 when the biggest *****hole school on the planet, to a Furple, puts one on you! xlolx xnodx xrotatehx :) :D
Now you're putting words in my mouth! I never said tHE cITADEL was a *****hole! I have nothing but respect for tHE cITADEL!































If we beat you I am going to give you so much *****....I mean galactic level *****.xlolx xlolx xsmiley_wix

[Ronin]

AGS poll has the accuracy over the Sports Network... always has.

[citdog]

Now you're putting words in my mouth! I never said tHE cITADEL was a *****hole! I have nothing but respect for tHE cITADEL!































If we beat you I am going to give you so much *****....I mean galactic level *****.xlolx xlolx xsmiley_wix


i think we handle y'all in Charleston.

[bustingnut]

Like who? They have shown they will/can go anywhere and play ball. They have already beatin' the Griz on their turf before they moved up. They took the punch from us and got up and ended up winning.

Montana's opponents are a combined 1-14 with another home game to go.

You dont think any of the teams behind them might give a better fight than ya'll and montana? Do you live under a rock? Shall we gift wrap the NC for them already?

[Death Dealer]

i think we handle y'all in Charleston.

Kevin,

It is very possible that you are correct, but I will wait until they play the game on the field. If there is one thing that I have learned about the rivalry between our two schools (and you know that it is my favorite one....really my only real one), no matter how unmatched it might seem going into it, never count either team out. Do I think that you guys are playing better ball than us right now? Duh! The kids around the corner in my neighborhood are playing better ball than us right now. Do I think we are gonna have one hell of an uphill battle in JH on Oct. 13th? I don't even like to think about it.xoopsx Can we come in there and whip you little bellhop @$$e$ during our worst year fueled only by our pure hatred of all that is The Citadel? It has happened before my Hebe brother, on both sides of that football!xnodx xpeacex

[citdog]

Kevin,

It is very possible that you are correct, but I will wait until they play the game on the field. If there is one thing that I have learned about the rivalry between our two schools (and you know that it is my favorite one....really my only real one), no matter how unmatched it might seem going into it, never count either team out. Do I think that you guys are playing better ball than us right now? Duh! The kids around the corner in my neighborhood are playing better ball than us right now. Do I think we are gonna have one hell of an uphill battle in JH on Oct. 13th? I don't even like to think about it.xoopsx Can we come in there and whip you little bellhop @$$e$ during our worst year fueled only by our pure hatred of all the is The Citadel? It has happened before my Hebe brother, on both sides of that football!xnodx xpeacex

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[Death Dealer]

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I can't type for the coughing fit that put me into!

[EmeryZach]

I knew UMass would fall a few. And it's fine with me. I'd rather not be as high in the polls

[Thundar]

Like who? They have shown they will/can go anywhere and play ball. They have already beatin' the Griz on their turf before they moved up. They took the punch from us and got up and ended up winning.

Montana's opponents are a combined 1-14 with another home game to go.


Very true, This team seems to be able play Strong at home or on the road, but I truly don't see them #1 quite yet. If they come out and play every game like at CMU, I don't think many teams will stop them, but they have not been able to step up and play all 4qtrs with that intensity. If they can get by UC-Davis and Minnesota in the next month, then they should be #1.

[AZGrizFan]

Like who? They have shown they will/can go anywhere and play ball. They have already beatin' the Griz on their turf before they moved up. They took the punch from us and got up and ended up winning.

Montana's opponents are a combined 1-14 with another home game to go.


Yeah, and that game from what, 30 years ago, has SO much relevance on todays standings......xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

[Tod]

Like who? They have shown they will/can go anywhere and play ball. They have already beatin' the Griz on their turf before they moved up. They took the punch from us and got up and ended up winning.

Montana's opponents are a combined 1-14 with another home game to go.

NDSU's opponents have four D-I wins, including one beating another (someone had to win that game).

Hell, strapper, Ya'll don't have a D-I win, so why give your team so much credit as a strong team?

It could just as easily be argued that NDSU had a terrible game against a bad team, right?

;)

[swaghook]

NDSU is a top #5 team for sure. I could care less if they see #1 before the last weekend of the regular season. But if they go 11-0 or 10-1 and no one else compares to that at the end of the regular season then the Bison without question deserve the #1 ranking until the championship game is played and the real number #1 team is crowned(unless of course that team has a loss to NDSU in the regular season.:p )

[swaghook]

NDSU's opponents have four D-I wins, including one beating another (someone had to win that game).

Hell, strapper, Ya'll don't have a D-I win, so why give your team so much credit as a strong team?

It could just as easily be argued that NDSU had a terrible game against a bad team, right?

;)
Our defense struggled to contain mobile and accurate passing QBs hopefully that is behind them for the rest of the season.

[Peems]

Very true, This team seems to be able play Strong at home or on the road, but I truly don't see them #1 quite yet. If they come out and play every game like at CMU, I don't think many teams will stop them, but they have not been able to step up and play all 4qtrs with that intensity. If they can get by UC-Davis and Minnesota in the next month, then they should be #1.

Very true, the reason I highlight this comment is because every game is different and to expect the same team to go out every week and be identical to their best performance is outlandish. I don't expect(and nor do many bison fans I s'pose) the Bison to go out and kill every one of there opponents by 30 odd points. There will be games when the Bison struggle to score TD's and settle for FGs and there will be games when the Bison kill themselves with Penalties and turnovers, but will find a way to win. No one will call them overrated and rightfully so, but I think the reason Montana is getting so much ***** is because we have not come out and completely dismantled a "decent" opponent. If the Griz can come out and flat out beat a good team, much of the "hate" will go away. I have nothing but respect for everyone who has posted their thoughts on the Griz for the past number of weeks and hope in the end the Griz live up to their lofty expectations.

[AZGrizFan]

Very true, the reason I highlight this comment is because every game is different and to expect the same team to go out every week and be identical to their best performance is outlandish. I don't expect(and nor do many bison fans I s'pose) the Bison to go out and kill every one of there opponents by 30 odd points. There will be games when the Bison struggle to score TD's and settle for FGs and there will be games when the Bison kill themselves with Penalties and turnovers, but will find a way to win. No one will call them overrated and rightfully so, but I think the reason Montana is getting so much ***** is because we have not come out and completely dismantled a "decent" opponent. If the Griz can come out and flat out beat a good team, much of the "hate" will go away. I have nothing but respect for everyone who has posted their thoughts on the Griz for the past number of weeks and hope in the end the Griz live up to their lofty expectations.

Define "dismantling" and "decent". The only opponent we've struggled with was Weber. And that was because we killed ourselves with penalties. Everybody else BH was cycling in 2nd, 3rd and 4th stringers before halftime. Face it peems, the hate ain't going away. Ever. No matter what we do. We could beat EWU by 35 this weekend and it wouldn't matter---people are now convinced EWU is overrated because they lost last weekend. And besides, its more jealousy than hate. xwhistlex xwhistlex xwhistlex xwhistlex

[proasu89]

God I hate when we are losing. You even start getting fans from *****holes like Elon dogging on your school.xoopsx

That's what happens when you let those small privates in:p

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