Missouri State at Youngstown

[MSUBear42]

What do you guys think?

YSU is #7 in this weeks AGS poll, MSU is 28th.

I know some on the YSU board view this as a 'break before real competition,' but I hope the Bears can prove them wrong.

MSU still has a potent offense, the defense needs to get better though. No injuries to speak of for MSU and I think YSU has a few, not sure though.

My 'homerific' prediction
MSU 27
YSU 21xeekx xeekx

My 'dont want it but it will probably happen' prediction
YSU 37
MSU 21

[crunifan]

I think Youngstown will run away with this one.

My reasoning is that this is a conference game, where opponents know each other better as well as it being at the Ice Castle. But, with the way the Bears have been playing, they will definitely have their shot. If it was in Springfield, I would really like Missouri State's chances.

[Cap'n Cat]

Missouri State 27
Youngstown State 21

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[ysubigred]

I think Youngstown will run away with this one.

My reasoning is that this is a conference game, where opponents know each other better as well as it being at the Ice Castle. But, with the way the Bears have been playing, they will definitely have their shot. If it was in Springfield, I would really like Missouri State's chances.

The Guins are really banged up right now (walking wounded). As bas as the injuries are at YSU, I would not take Jerry's Kid's U for granted xbawlingx I've heard that we might have lost James Terry for a while on "D" xnonono2x

[MSUBear42]

Jerry's Kids U??


BTW, Bears fans, use Bearmania.net until letsgobears is back. I forgot about that board, but it already has a football forum built in so it might as well become letsgobears jr. haha

[douglasdmb]

I think Youngstown will run away with this one.

My reasoning is that this is a conference game, where opponents know each other better as well as it being at the Ice Castle.

True, but this situation is a little different. The Bears have a brand-spankin new (and efficient, if I might add) offense. YSU players/coaches have never laid eyes on most of the players that have been key to us being 3-1.

But yes, once you hit conference play, you have a better gauge as to what each team is all about, you have more film to look at, and you know who the opponent's go-to guys are, as opposed to earlier in the year, when scouting for most teams is a little more mysterious.

Bears 28
Guins 45

[MSULB#47]

The 'fixes' will be in by gametime. We will be finely tuned and primed for the game come Saturday.

[ShowMeBear2]

I am fired up. Are they selling Bear football jerseys at the game still?
I wanted one last weekend but could not find one my size.

[BearsCountry]

Well its YSU, its means hard nosed defense and the Penguins running the ball.

[Cap'n Cat]

Well its YSU, its means hard nosed defense and the Penguins running the ball.

.....and worrying about their annual beating at the hands of UNI coming Oct 27.

J/K, Pen fans. You know I love you.

xnodx xnodx xnodx xnodx xnodx

[MSULB#47]

Well its YSU, its means hard nosed defense and the Penguins running the ball.

Defending the run is one of our defensive strengths...xeyebrowx

Should be interesting.......

[MSUBear42]

Good to hear that it's fixed 47...

[GoGuins]

YSU 24
Cubbies 20

[MSULB#47]

Good to hear that it's fixed 47...

Well lets hope they are fixed......xsmiley_wix

May I also suggest you take a look at the Gateway Statistics and the side by side YSU vs MSU numbers......quite interesting....xsmiley_wix

[89Hen]

This is definitely a game worth keeping tabs on for the I-AA world. xnodx

[Paladin1aa]

Maybe close for a half, maybe.

YSU 31-10.

[stuperman17]

I dont know who said it, but James Terry isnt out for an extended period of time. He's banged up, but nothing too serious. He'll play in the game saturday. We have lost Irizarry at TE and kishman at tackle, but I think we can get through the injuries since they'll be close to season ending. Irizarry is 5 more weeks.

YSU 41
MSU 21

[ysubigred]

I dont know who said it, but James Terry isnt out for an extended period of time. He's banged up, but nothing too serious. He'll play in the game saturday. We have lost Irizarry at TE and kishman at tackle, but I think we can get through the injuries since they'll be close to season ending. Irizarry is 5 more weeks.

YSU 41
MSU 21

Yea, I seen on the two deep Terry is listed as a backup to Ward. Bush is also out so we're on the third TE. Althought, the Two Deep is meant to keep people guessing xrolleyesx

[skinny_uncle]

I think the Penguins win this one at home. Missouri State is improved, though.

[stuperman17]

Bush isnt out, i'm almost positive. We have bruce palmer as our backup TE right now, but after him there isnt anyone really. I doubt bush doesnt play.

[Pete's Weekly]

If you want to beat YSU:

RUSHING YARDAGE............... 825 341
Yards gained rushing........ 865 418
TDs Rushing................. 10 3
PASSING YARDAGE............... 544 734 ****
Att-Comp-Int................ 82-52-2 121-73-6
Average Per Pass............ 6.6 6.1
Average Per Catch........... 10.5 10.1 ****
Average Per Game............ 136.0 183.5
TDs Passing................. 3 4

Total Plays................. 258 242 ****
Average Yards Per Play... 5.3 4.4 ****

YSU traditionally tries to shut off an opponents run game & then let's them try to beat them with the pass. Problem so far in 2007, teams have been beating them with the pass ...10.1 average yards per pass and 183.5 yards per game. Just a few more things ...

-when YSU's run defense wants to step up, they can. They are one of only two teams to hold the Buckeye's Chris Wells under 100 yards in two years. The only team to hold him under 50 (in which he had more than 10 carries) yards in 2 years. Wells was 24 carries for 49-yards.

-4th-Down Pct................ 33% 50%
The Guins are not as strong as usual up front. They are giving up 1 out of every two attempts on 4th-down, so "go for it".

-They switched back to a 4-3 (from a 3-4) last year & will bring in a LB as an end to put pressure on the QB...this is why they average over 2 sacks per game. However, because of this they have a soft zone & the middle is open for short to medium passes all day.

TIME OF POSSESSION/GAME....... 31:00 29:00

Clearly they are not dominating the T.O.P., so just keep "plugging away".
Play your game & keep at it for 4-quarters.

[Cap'n Cat]

If you want to beat YSU:

RUSHING YARDAGE............... 825 341
Yards gained rushing........ 865 418
TDs Rushing................. 10 3
PASSING YARDAGE............... 544 734 ****
Att-Comp-Int................ 82-52-2 121-73-6
Average Per Pass............ 6.6 6.1
Average Per Catch........... 10.5 10.1 ****
Average Per Game............ 136.0 183.5
TDs Passing................. 3 4

Total Plays................. 258 242 ****
Average Yards Per Play... 5.3 4.4 ****

YSU traditionally tries to shut off an opponents run game & then let's them try to beat them with the pass. Problem so far in 2007, teams have been beating them with the pass ...10.1 average yards per pass and 183.5 yards per game. Just a few more things ...

-when YSU's run defense wants to step up, they can. They are one of only two teams to hold the Buckeye's Chris Wells under 100 yards in two years. The only team to hold him under 50 (in which he had more than 10 carries) yards in 2 years. Wells was 24 carries for 49-yards.

-4th-Down Pct................ 33% 50%
The Guins are not as strong as usual up front. They are giving up 1 out of every two attempts on 4th-down, so "go for it".

-They switched back to a 4-3 (from a 3-4) last year & will bring in a LB as an end to put pressure on the QB...this is why they average over 2 sacks per game. However, because of this they have a soft zone & the middle is open for short to medium passes all day.

TIME OF POSSESSION/GAME....... 31:00 29:00

Clearly they are not dominating the T.O.P., so just keep "plugging away".
Play your game & keep at it for 4-quarters.



.....all except v UNI......

[ysubigred]

Bush isnt out, i'm almost positive. We have bruce palmer as our backup TE right now, but after him there isnt anyone really. I doubt bush doesnt play.

I hope your right. They have Colegrove True FR 6-4/250 backing up Palmer on the two deep. This is all the info I have so "if" your closer to the team than 432 miles that I am you'll know better xthumbsupx Thanks for the updates xnodx

[Pete's Weekly]

.....all except v UNI......

Sorry CC, the number on the right is the opposition, indicating YSU is not doing well in TOP and passing D. I should have put that in there.

[BearsCountry]

7-7 in the first.

[BearsCountry]

Penguins 21
Bears 7

Halftime

[BearsCountry]

Pens 28
Bears 14

9 minutes to go in the 3rd

[ysubigred]

35-14 YSU

Late 3rd qtr

[igo4uni]

35-14 YSU

Late 3rd qtr

I am not surprised.

[ysubigred]

42-14 YSU

later 3rd qtr

[ysubigred]

42-21

4th qtr Bears won't die

[BearsCountry]

49-21 Pens

[ysubigred]

49-21 YSU

14:00 left in the 4th qtr

[BearsCountry]

Penguins win.

[igo4uni]

Penguins win.

That's what I figured.

[MSUBear42]

It's alright, we'll bounce back. If we didn't have that onside kick returned for a TD EARLY in the 4th quarter and the bad interception at our own 30 in the 2nd quarter it would have been a different game.

[BDK@YSU]

We scored our last touchdown when MSU tried to kick an onside kick. The kick team overran the ball and the YSU kid was off for the races.

____________________________________MSU______YSU

FIRST_DOWNS..................._______17_______24
__Rushing.....................________6_______14
__Passing.....................________9________9
__Penalty.....................________2________1
NET_YARDS_RUSHING.............______122______304
__Rushing_Attempts............_______29_______51
__Average_Per_Rush............______4.2______6.0
__Rushing_Touchdowns..........________2________5
__Yards_Gained_Rushing........______156______315
__Yards_Lost_Rushing.........._______34_______11
NET_YARDS_PASSING.............______183______169
__Completions-Attempts-Int....__19-31-1__13-23-1
__Average_Per_Attempt.........______5.9______7.3
__Average_Per_Completion......______9.6_____13.0
__Passing_Touchdowns..........________1________1
TOTAL_OFFENSE_YARDS...........______305______473
__Total_offense_plays........._______60_______74
__Average_Gain_Per_Play.......______5.1______6.4
Fumbles:_Number-Lost..........______1-1______1-0
Penalties:_Number-Yards......._____7-51_____8-75
PUNTS-YARDS...................____6-239____4-154
__Average_Yards_Per_Punt......_____39.8_____38.5
__Net_Yards_Per_Punt.........._____39.7_____38.5
__Inside_20...................________3________2
__50+_Yards...................________1________1
__Touchbacks..................________0________0
__Fair_catch..................________2________2
KICKOFFS-YARDS................____3-178____8-490
__Average_Yards_Per_Kickoff..._____59.3_____61.2
__Net_Yards_Per_Kickoff......._____24.0_____43.2
__Touchbacks..................________0________0
Punt_returns:_Number-Yards-TD.____0-0-0____3-1-0
__Average_Per_Return..........______0.0______0.3
Kickoff_returns:_Number-Yds-TD__8-144-0__4-106-1
__Average_Per_Return.........._____18.0_____26.5
Interceptions:_Number-Yds-TD..___1-19-0____1-0-0
Fumble_Returns:_Number-Yds-TD.____0-0-0____0-0-0
Miscellaneous_Yards...........________0________0
Possession_Time...............____27:01____32:59
__1st_Quarter................._____5:16_____9:44
__2nd_Quarter................._____7:12_____7:48
__3rd_Quarter................._____4:51____10:09
__4th_Quarter................._____9:42_____5:18
Third-Down_Conversions........__3_of_12__5_of_11
Fourth-Down_Conversions.......___2_of_3___0_of_0
Red-Zone_Scores-Chances.......______2-2______6-6
Sacks_By:_Number-Yards........______1-8_____3-29
PAT_Kicks.....................______3-3______7-7
Field_Goals...................______0-0______0-0

Sorry for the crappy formatting, the forum won't keep the spacing intact without the underscores.

[douglasdmb]

Congrats to the Guins, this was what was expected to happen. Our defense is just way too young right now, especially to hang with the experienced offense that YSU has.

As good as YSU's defense is, though, I'll take our 21 points. xthumbsupx

[ysuallthetime]

It's alright, we'll bounce back. If we didn't have that onside kick returned for a TD EARLY in the 4th quarter and the bad interception at our own 30 in the 2nd quarter it would have been a different game.

And if we didn't quit trying to score in the 4th it would have been a different game too.

[DoubleE]

i'm suprised Missouri state didnt run the ball more with #6, YSU struggled terribly tackling him, good power runner. broke 3 or 4 tackles each time he got a carry

other then that YSU defense did a great job of stopping the spread option that Missouri state was running

Good Job Guins


next @ SIU on CSTV (i'm gonna be watching ;)

[MSULB#47]

Congrats to the Guins, this was what was expected to happen. Our defense is just way too young right now, especially to hang with the experienced offense that YSU has.

As good as YSU's defense is, though, I'll take our 21 points. xthumbsupx


Douglas, lets keep it real....this is what YOU expected to happen....

lets be clear

Its NOT the Defense!!!!.....You cant make mistakes in regards to field position...its that simple....

The defense held them early when the score was 7-7, 14-7...and even 21-7 going into the half.....to punts

The offense did NOT take the opportunity given them by the Defense...that simple.....

Those First Half (YSU) scores were setup up by several ill advised decisions.....

The rest is history....

[MSUBear42]

i'm suprised Missouri state didnt run the ball more with #6, YSU struggled terribly tackling him, good power runner. broke 3 or 4 tackles each time he got a carry

other then that YSU defense did a great job of stopping the spread option that Missouri state was running

Good Job Guins


next @ SIU on CSTV (i'm gonna be watching ;)

Sometimes I question our play calling. Like running up the middle with our speed RB on 3rd and 10 and getting like 1 yard.

[Cap'n Cat]

Good showing, YSU. Good statement game.

xnodx