Travis Hunter

[acbearkat]

He's one of the nation's top recruits, and has been committed for some time to Florida State. It appears he has flipped to Jackson State, whose head coach is none other than Florida State legend Deion Sanders. That doesn't happen every day. This kid is a five-star recruit and could have gone anywhere in the country.

Pete Thamel on Twitter: "A source said that FSU has been informed that Hunter is heading to Jackson State." / Twitter (https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1471156637541019652)

[Lorne_Malvo]

1 million NIL. LOL

[ST_Lawson]

It's official...

https://i.imgur.com/W0fHWt6.jpg

[DFW HOYA]

A five star is no guarantee. Anyone remember Makur Maker, the five star basketball recruit from 2020 that signed with Howard?

Played two games, got hurt, left school. Playing now in Australia.

[POD Knows]

I can see this. If the guy is a stud, gets a lot of playing time and Sander’s connections to the NFL will also be a plus down the road

[UNHWildcat18]

So riddle me this, say last years class and this years class are that good and red shirt..... 2-3 years from now if they are dominating the SWAC/OOC that hard do they skip the Celebration bowl and play for an FCS Title? Would seem silly not to.

[FUBeAR]

1 million NIL. LOL
Plus his own reality show is the rumor.

Who knew the Kardashians would someday come to FCS Football

[FUBeAR]

So riddle me this, say last years class and this years class are that good and red shirt..... 2-3 years from now if they are dominating the SWAC/OOC that hard do they skip the Celebration bowl and play for an FCS Title? Would seem silly not to.
You’re thinking small. JSU (and, perhaps, other HBCU’s) will begin petitioning very soon to have equitable access to and be included in the CFP.

FUBeAR believes they will win that argument in some form or fashion.

[unknown3]

A five star is no guarantee. Anyone remember Makur Maker, the five star basketball recruit from 2020 that signed with Howard?

Played two games, got hurt, left school. Playing now in Australia.

A "no guarantee" that any team in the country would love to have signed with them today.

[unknown3]

So riddle me this, say last years class and this years class are that good and red shirt..... 2-3 years from now if they are dominating the SWAC/OOC that hard do they skip the Celebration bowl and play for an FCS Title? Would seem silly not to.

Or, it would seem silly to. The SWAC's formula is working well for them and they really dont need the playoffs honestly. Celebration bowl is a trip to ATL for students and fans, band showcases, step shows,e tc. Not to mention a million dollar paycheck. That vs going to play in Montana isn't appealing as some of you seem to believe here. Probably why the top teams keep leaving in lieu of bowl games.

[Sycamore62]

no risk imo. will come in and star (if he is good) and then he can transfer anywhere he wants.

[JSUSoutherner]

You’re thinking small. JSU (and, perhaps, other HBCU’s) will begin petitioning very soon to have equitable access to and be included in the CFP.

FUBeAR believes they will win that argument in some form or fashion.

Then they'll need to go FBS. And I seriously doubt Jackson State cares to leave the other HBCUs behind for a slim chance to have the opportunity get mudholed by Alabama or UGA.

[JacksFan40]

Huge NIL deal, and gets to play for arguably the greatest DB in NFL history. If he’s as good as he seems, the NFL scouts will find him regardless of where he plays.

[Panther88]

Huge NIL deal, and gets to play for arguably the greatest DB in NFL history. If he’s as good as he seems, the NFL scouts will find him regardless of where he plays.

Jerry Rice, Walter Payton, Steve McNair, SWAC NFL HOFers, coach Eddie Robinson, and TOO many other great SWAC coaches/legends agree with you.

#woke xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

Ray Lewis/Ed Reed to the SWAC, 2021/2022.

[Panther88]

Or, it would seem silly to. The SWAC's formula is working well for them and they really dont need the playoffs honestly. Celebration bowl is a trip to ATL for students and fans, band showcases, step shows,e tc. Not to mention a million dollar paycheck. That vs going to play in Montana isn't appealing as some of you seem to believe here. Probably why the top teams keep leaving in lieu of bowl games.

Thanks man. xthumbsupx SWAC roots run deep. xreadx

It's my understanding that JSU signed a few more "stars" who will be announced shortly. Some P5ers are seething lol.

Our "PV Splash Hire" will be announced shortly.

[walliver]

Given a choice between a million dollars and Florida State, I'd choose the money, too.

[FUBeAR]

Given a choice between a million dollars and Florida State, I'd choose the money, too.
Inside sources tellin’ FUBeAR the total package is $3M. FSU could probably only come up with 2 or 2.5.

[Panther88]

xlolx

https://twitter.com/DS_Gators/status/1471166669993218049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1471167310585081856%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeacfanszone.proboards.com%2 Fthread%2F39912%2Fdeion-flipped-1-recruit-nation

[FUBeAR]

xlolx

https://twitter.com/DS_Gators/status/1471166669993218049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1471167310585081856%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeacfanszone.proboards.com%2 Fthread%2F39912%2Fdeion-flipped-1-recruit-nation
https://twitter.com/ds_gators/status/1471166669993218049

[crusader11]

That Barstool money tastes good.

[POD Knows]

This kid didn’t sign with JSU for the love of HBCU. He did it for the money. Pure and simple.

[unknown3]

This kid didn’t sign with JSU for the love of HBCU. He did it for the money. Pure and simple.

There is no need to be upset.

[Professor Chaos]

I don't care how it happened or the circumstance surrounding it but an FCS school poaching a recruit from a P5 school on signing day eve is delicious irony and I LOVE IT!!!

[wapiti]

There is no need to be upset.

You seem upset that POD was honest and said the truth.

[POD Knows]

There is no need to be upset.
I don’t care. I would have done the same thing. I hope this works out for him. He is doing what is best for him, kudos. Buts let’s not pretend it is anything other than that.

[unknown3]

You seem upset that POD was honest and said the truth.

Nope. I seem to be honest about dude being salty. There's always that bitter ass person that passes off their ****ty personality under the "being honest" guise. This is one of those times.

[POD Knows]

You seem upset that POD was honest and said the truth.
I am not upset. I think it is awesome. I hope the kid kicks ass at JSU. Just not buying the spin some are putting out there.

[POD Knows]

Nope. I seem to be honest about dude being salty. There's always that bitter ass person that passes off their ****ty personality under the "being honest" guise. This is one of those times.
Answer this question. Do you think this kid chose JSU to further the cause and profile of HBCU football or is money the primary reason. Or is it a chance to be coached by a great ex NFL DB. I will concede that the latter may be part of the reason. Still think the Benjamin’s is the primary reason. There is nothing wrong with that.

[JSUSoutherner]

https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1471167588642156546

[POD Knows]

https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1471167588642156546?t=fWf6IkiVfZoXgvqoJU2o1Q&s=19

https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1471167588642156546
Now that is funny ****. 👍

[lionsrking2]

I don’t care. I would have done the same thing. I hope this works out for him. He is doing what is best for him, kudos. Buts let’s not pretend it is anything other than that.

So, if he signed with a P5 power, it wouldn't be for the money? Help me with this one.

[JSUSoutherner]

So, if he signed with a P5 power, it wouldn't be for the money? Help me with this one.
FSU football and Power aren't exactly synonymous.

[POD Knows]

So, if he signed with a P5 power, it wouldn't be for the money? Help me with this one.
Don’t know. Rumor mill has it that the “Payout” might be better at JSU. He is going to be a name at JSU and Deion is good at marketing. Generally the first reasoned proffered for doing something is never the real reason. Same with objections, it is never the first objection offered that is the real reason for objecting.

This is a great move for JSU and HBCU’s as a whole and I hope more follow. But I am pretty cynical on this stuff. It is more often then not, about the deal.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Casino, racetrack and pornographer money pays off a HS recruit. Be looking forward to when Barstool tells him to "trip" in the 2nd quarter so that Prairie View scores that TD to cover the 1st half spread to allow their rapist boss to cover his 4-way parlay

[POD Knows]

Casino, racetrack and pornographer money pays off a HS recruit. Be looking forward to when Barstool tells him to "trip" in the 2nd quarter so that Prairie View scores that TD to cover the 1st half spread to allow their rapist boss to cover his 4-way parlay
OMG. Now you have done it. 😂

[Panther88]

There is no need to be upset.

xlolx

[MR. CHICKEN]

....AIN'T...LEE-HY....FAMOUS FO' GRAPE SODA..??.......AWK??

[Panther88]

Casino, racetrack and pornographer money pays off a HS recruit. Be looking forward to when Barstool tells him to "trip" in the 2nd quarter so that Prairie View scores that TD to cover the 1st half spread to allow their rapist boss to cover his 4-way parlay

Throttle down, turbo man.

https://i.etsystatic.com/16833452/r/il/670f74/2881099924/il_794xN.2881099924_qvup.jpg

[Lehigh Football Nation]

....AIN'T...LEE-HY....FAMOUS FO' GRAPE SODA..??.......AWK??

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1779/2753/products/Jaindl.Atreat-1864_Print_4R_550x825.jpg?v=1516202032

[ASU33]

So riddle me this, say last years class and this years class are that good and red shirt..... 2-3 years from now if they are dominating the SWAC/OOC that hard do they skip the Celebration bowl and play for an FCS Title? Would seem silly not to.

I can not stress this enough! Deion has said over and over the goal is to grow what we have including the Celebration Bowl. He talked about having a 70,000 plus crowd at the Celebration Bowl.

[caribbeanhen]

I can not stress this enough! Deion has said over and over the goal is to grow what we have including the Celebration Bowl. He talked about having a 70,000 plus crowd at the Celebration Bowl.

Replace the weak MEAC with Ivy champions

I don’t know if that would create more widespread interest but I would be watching

[ASU33]

Replace the weak MEAC with Ivy champions

I don’t know if that would create more widespread interest but I would be watching

There's been talks of changing the format to an at-large vs auto-bid format that just may heat up depending how Saturday goes.

[ScrappytheOwl]

This is a great signing for prime time. I could see hunter playing at Jackson State for a couple years and than transferring to a P5 school for better exposure to the NFL as an upperclassmen.

[unknown3]

Does Lehigh even have a football team?xlolx

[unknown3]

Oh nvm, I see they did have a run in 1979. No wonder dude is angry.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Oh nvm, I see they did have a run in 1979. No wonder dude is angry.

You must be new here, son, so I'll let that one slide, "unknown3".

[Panther88]

There's been talks of changing the format to an at-large vs auto-bid format that just may heat up depending how Saturday goes.

Certainly was discussed but it would end The Celebration Bowl as we know it. That's not the constituent base the game actually panders towards.

I think it was officially declared a sellout @ 47K w/ the lower and mid-rings being sold out and an additional 1K SRO tix sold earlier today. I purchased my 2, per my usual.

[crusader11]

Casino, racetrack and pornographer money pays off a HS recruit. Be looking forward to when Barstool tells him to "trip" in the 2nd quarter so that Prairie View scores that TD to cover the 1st half spread to allow their rapist boss to cover his 4-way parlay

You okay, LFN?

[Bisonoline]

Casino, racetrack and pornographer money pays off a HS recruit. Be looking forward to when Barstool tells him to "trip" in the 2nd quarter so that Prairie View scores that TD to cover the 1st half spread to allow their rapist boss to cover his 4-way parlay

When you take a dive you go down hard.

[UNHWildcat18]

I can not stress this enough! Deion has said over and over the goal is to grow what we have including the Celebration Bowl. He talked about having a 70,000 plus crowd at the Celebration Bowl.

Yeah but I mean with the talent he has coming in, say they are that good, they are going to pulverize the meac opponent every year, you think they'd want to sneak in a fcs playoff run eventually. Sorry but the rest of the MEAC/SWAC isn't going to rise with JSU. IMHO

Personally I don't care, they can keep playing in their bowl game. Sending their 3rd best team to get slaughtered in the playoffs.

[TSUsupporter]

There's been talks of changing the format to an at-large vs auto-bid format that just may heat up depending how Saturday goes.


If they go to that format, that brings NCAT back into play. It also brings Tennessee State and Hampton into play as well. But I think from a contractual standpoint, the game is SWAC champ vs MEAC champ. So unless the MEAC goes away, or ESPN buys them out and changes the format, there won't be any changes within the next few years.

[NY Crusader 2010]

Casino, racetrack and pornographer money pays off a HS recruit. Be looking forward to when Barstool tells him to "trip" in the 2nd quarter so that Prairie View scores that TD to cover the 1st half spread to allow their rapist boss to cover his 4-way parlay

Easy there. My sister works for Barstool. Calling someone a rapist without credible accusations is unfair.

Portnoy => Successful businessman? Yes; Generous philanthropist? Yes -- have you heard about the Barstool Fund raising millions for bars and restaurants affected by the pandemic? ; Opinionated; Yes; Degenerate Gambler? Yes, or at least he portrays himself that way in order to identify with his clientele; Creepy 40-something hooking up with college-age girls? Yes, but there's no substantiated story to provide any credence that he's done anything non-consensual on that front. Weird fetishes, yep.

[TSUsupporter]

Here's the other elephant in the room. When it comes to FCS football going into its semifinal weekend, absolutely NO ONE is talking about the FCS playoffs. They're talking about Deion Sanders and Jackson State.

And with the Celebration Bowl happening this Saturday, that game will completely overshadow anything going on in the FCS playoffs.

This is the perfect storm for Jackson State, and HBCU football in general.


And yes, we all know that from an overall talent standpoint, the overall landscape of HBCU football is not on the level of football played in the MVFC, Big Sky, or the CAA. But at this point, it doesn't even matter. The only hope for the FCS playoffs, is for Jackson State to be dominant next year, and ask to opt out of the Celebration Bowl and try to go for a FCS National Championship.

Because the facts are that no matter how dominant NDSU are, they'll never be the most popular team in FCS. They are essentially that great underground rapper with great lyrics, that never gets the props it deserves, because the "fans" love the less lyrical, but more aesthetically pleasing rapper.

[NY Crusader 2010]

If they go to that format, that brings NCAT back into play. It also brings Tennessee State and Hampton into play as well. But I think from a contractual standpoint, the game is SWAC champ vs MEAC champ. So unless the MEAC goes away, or ESPN buys them out and changes the format, there won't be any changes within the next few years.

How would an at-large format work? Would they have a playoff to get into the Bowl?

Or would it just be a matter of ESPN saying, "We know Alcorn State won the SWAC this year but we think Deion Sanders and his big-name recruits will get better ratings so we're going to take Jackson State instead"?

I guess I understand the possibility of maybe picking 1 vs 2, or maybe a 4 team playoff, based on the "Black College National Rankings". This would open the door for Hampton, NCAT, Tennessee State and maybe even a really good D-II HBCU to compete for the Celebration Bowl. That would be kind of cool.

[Bisonator]

Gonna be the end of college athletics IMO.

[Panther88]

How would an at-large format work? Would they have a playoff to get into the Bowl?

Or would it just be a matter of ESPN saying, "We know Alcorn State won the SWAC this year but we think Deion Sanders and his big-name recruits will get better ratings so we're going to take Jackson State instead"?

I guess I understand the possibility of maybe picking 1 vs 2, or maybe a 4 team playoff, based on the "Black College National Rankings". This would open the door for Hampton, NCAT, Tennessee State and maybe even a really good D-II HBCU to compete for the Celebration Bowl. That would be kind of cool.

Will never happen.

The SWAC and MEAC conferences are under contract, not "fan" wishful thinking. So, in that regard, Hampton, TnSU, AND NCA&T will never see the field of The Celebration Bowl, unless they are along the sidelines working/observing lol.

The "fcs" playoffs is NOT a priority of the SWAC conference. I seriously don't understand why that ridiculous talk occurs annually. Our esteemed commissioner has made that very, very clear and the conference handlers, the presidents of the 12 institutions, have made that fact very clear.

Returning to Mr Hunter, I absolutely loved how he tossed those other schools' caps around, like discard-able trash. xreadx tee-hee-hee-hee

[Panther88]

Gonna be the end of college athletics IMO.

Did you happen to catch crying dabo swinney's whining? He spoke of "collegiate athletics going to shambles... the amaterism... etc" while he sports that $8+M salary substantiated by the effort and work of 18-23/24 year olds.

Hopefully other TAGers get what I call the "17 y/o P88 bug" and do what is RIGHT. Nothing like telling those who desire your skills/talent being told to go to hell. lol xreadx

[unknown3]

They're only mad about it because they know it's going to level the playing field for anyone that's business savy enough to secure NIL deals for their program. The big boys have been paying players and hoarding them on the bench for 20 years. Any threat to them they'll find a way to change the rules guaranteed. I bet you Ole Miss fans are seething. If i'm the swac, considering how good of a position they're in now, i'm keeping doing what i'm doing vs participating in the annual "can anyone beat NDSU" fest.

[Professor Chaos]

They're only mad about it because they know it's going to level the playing field for anyone that's business savy enough to secure NIL deals for their program. The big boys have been paying players and hoarding them on the bench for 20 years. Any threat to them they'll find a way to change the rules guaranteed. I bet you Ole Miss fans are seething. If i'm the swac, considering how good of a position they're in now, i'm keeping doing what i'm doing vs participating in the annual "can anyone beat NDSU" fest.
Lol... NIL will do anything but level the playing field. The haves will still be the haves and the have nots will still be the have nots. Once Jackson State's coach is no longer an NFL HOFer with a relationship with Barstool Sports this kind of thing will be done happening. But, like I said earlier, I love that it happened since it's going to happen hundreds of times over the next few years in the other direction.

[POD Knows]

Will never happen.

The SWAC and MEAC conferences are under contract, not "fan" wishful thinking. So, in that regard, Hampton, TnSU, AND NCA&T will never see the field of The Celebration Bowl, unless they are along the sidelines working/observing lol.

The "fcs" playoffs is NOT a priority of the SWAC conference. I seriously don't understand why that ridiculous talk occurs annually. Our esteemed commissioner has made that very, very clear and the conference handlers, the presidents of the 12 institutions, have made that fact very clear.

Returning to Mr Hunter, I absolutely loved how he tossed those other schools' caps around, like discard-able trash. xreadx tee-hee-hee-hee
It is good that the SWAC is not part of the FCS playoff. They would be just more chaff to get rid of over Thanksgiving weekend. There are enough undeserving teams in the playoffs now as it is.

[Panther88]

It is good that the SWAC is not part of the FCS playoff. They would be just more chaff to get rid of over Thanksgiving weekend. There are enough undeserving teams in the playoffs now as it is.

Aside: Right. Same can be said of other conferences as well. Ultimately, most are waiting in a ridiculously long line to play the annual "beat ndsu" or "beat james madison" game.

Back to the thread title: I never realized that Mr Hunter was the very FIRST HS 5* to sign at an fcs program. xlolx It's 2021... what have "fcs" schools been doing all this time? xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx ~6 years ago, we had a transfer then 5*, "Mr Football SC" from univ of south carolina (WR) walking campus for a semester who couldn't get his academics together so he had to transfer (again).

[caribbeanhen]

Will never happen.

The SWAC and MEAC conferences are under contract, not "fan" wishful thinking. So, in that regard, Hampton, TnSU, AND NCA&T will never see the field of The Celebration Bowl, unless they are along the sidelines working/observing lol.

The "fcs" playoffs is NOT a priority of the SWAC conference. I seriously don't understand why that ridiculous talk occurs annually. Our esteemed commissioner has made that very, very clear and the conference handlers, the presidents of the 12 institutions, have made that fact very clear.

Returning to Mr Hunter, I absolutely loved how he tossed those other schools' caps around, like discard-able trash. xreadx tee-hee-hee-hee

Deon should get a prototype and make him head Coach of a MEAC team, he needs a strong rival or he will just become like the boring ole winning Bison

The SWAC is certainly in a win win position

Big money and no real need to get beat up in the playoffs

Maybe the money might wake up the elitist Ivies to invite themselves to the party 😃

[walliver]

It doesn't bother me that the SWAC doesn't participate in the playoffs. It doesn't bother me that the MEAC doesn't either. Or the Ivy League.

In the current FCS, there are probably only 5 or 6 teams with a legitimate chance of a championship every year.

My only gripe is that a lot of dissimilar programs are all linked together under an arbitrary FCS banner. With the upcoming NCAA constitutional convention coming up in which thoughtful and learned leaders will do what the SEC tells them to do, the college landscape will be quite different in the years ahead. Will the FCS -playoffs survive as is or will other conferences go their own ways. With different conferences adapting different rules (the likely outcome of the constitutional convention), the FCS playing field will become more unbalanced.

[FUBeAR]

As our culture broadly transitions from an imperfect, relatively static, meritocracy to an extremely fluid, media-ocracy (mediocrity?), this is where we are.

Though we will identify many as such, there are/will be no real heroes or villains (except for the entire Kardashian clan :)) in this transition. There are/will be those that take advantage of the change; those that lose money, status, and power (because, net net, it is a zero-sum game) due to it; and those (like FUBeAR) that sit on the sidelines, observing, and, on occasion, commenting about it.

The long-term direction to which this takes our civilization remains to be seen. Whether our next few generations will reside in a utopic nirvana or the farce comedy film “Idiocracy” will be proven to actually have been a documentary, will become known in the decades ahead.

College Football, as it always has been, remains both a mirror and a laboratory for our society as a whole. In that regard, nothing has changed.


…thus sayeth FUBeAR.

[Panther88]

Deon should get a prototype and make him head Coach of a MEAC team, he needs a strong rival or he will just become like the boring ole winning Bison

The SWAC is certainly in a win win position

Big money and no real need to get beat up in the playoffs

Maybe the money might wake up the elitist Ivies to invite themselves to the party 
Yeh, who knows. Who even cares what others outside of our conference are doing. Our only concerns are SWAC and MEAC at this point.

What are the fcs playoffs doing this w/e? What is it semi-final round yet? Sweet 16? Haven't seen anything on the tubes of TX about any of it.

[Panther88]

As our culture broadly transitions from an imperfect, relatively static, meritocracy to an extremely fluid, media-ocracy (mediocrity?), this is where we are.

Though we will identify many as such, there are/will be no real heroes or villains (except for the entire Kardashian clan :)) in this transition. There are/will be those that take advantage of the change; those that lose money, status, and power (because, net net, it is a zero-sum game) due to it; and those (like FUBeAR) that sit on the sidelines, observing, and, on occasion, commenting about it.

The long-term direction to which this takes our civilization remains to be seen. Whether our next few generations will reside in a utopic nirvana or the farce comedy film “Idiocracy” will be proven to actually have been a documentary, will become known in the decades ahead.

College Football, as it always has been, remains both a mirror and a laboratory for our society as a whole. In that regard, nothing has changed.


…thus sayeth FUBeAR.

*stares as Jerry Rice-lishly and Ray Lewis-lishly as possible*

*and then lmao* xlmaox

When the factual truth comes out about Mr Hunter's decision, even more c. faces will be cracked, like an egg hitting the concrete floor. xlolx

[FUBeAR]

*stares as Jerry Rice-lishly and Ray Lewis-lishly as possible*

*and then lmao* xlmaox

When the factual truth comes out about Mr Hunter's decision, even more c. faces will be cracked, like an egg hitting the concrete floor. xlolx
FUBeAR sees your Rice/Lewis stares and raises you 1 Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1011630153112354822/z1UNcbRf_400x400.jpg

[Panther88]

FUBeAR sees your Rice/Lewis stares and raises you 1 Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1011630153112354822/z1UNcbRf_400x400.jpg

You win the internet today. lol

[POD Knows]

Aside: Right. Same can be said of other conferences as well. Ultimately, most are waiting in a ridiculously long line to play the annual "beat ndsu" or "beat james madison" game.

Back to the thread title: I never realized that Mr Hunter was the very FIRST HS 5* to sign at an fcs program. xlolx It's 2021... what have "fcs" schools been doing all this time? xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx ~6 years ago, we had a transfer then 5*, "Mr Football SC" from univ of south carolina (WR) walking campus for a semester who couldn't get his academics together so he had to transfer (again).
Actually. JSU may have been pretty competitive in the playoffs. They are going to continue to get better. Their fans might get sick of blowouts in the near future 😀

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Deion does three things extremely well. 1) Play (and presumably coach) DB. 2) Promoting Deion Sanders. 3) Separating people from their money.

The problem here is 2) and 3). Deion Sanders is an employee of Barstool. He gets a check from them. When he talks to a recruit, is he speaking as a coach, or as a representative of Barstool? Did he steer him towards an NIL deal with the company that pays him as well?

It is not surprising that a top-rated DB would want to go to an HBCU to play under a HOF DB. Under normal circumstances, such a "flip" would be surprising, but not earth-shattering. Deion presumably can teach a DB things that 99.9% of other coaches cannot. That makes sense.

But the problem is... everything else.

When Deion leaves (there is no earthly way he is staying at Jackson State for more than a year, if that), does Hunter stay? Does the tie to Barstool mean he will automatically transfer to the next Barstool U. that Deion will coach at?

Barstool is a media company, and a gambling establishment. Will Barstool require as their ROI have Hunter push some of Barstool's gambling products? You can bet on Jackson State sports through their sportsbook. A real easy way for Deion and presumably Hunter to make some money is to place some bets on Jackson State sports and throw the game - or maybe just, say, the first half. What if Barstool itself wanted to throw the game to have the house get more money?

Mississippi's NIL laws are basically anything goes. Unlike PA (which has some restrictions on who can offer them), Mississippi doesn't have any restrictions on gambling establishments, bars, the Chinese government, or anything on who can offer NIL offers. Pretty much if you have a pulse you can throw money at recruits. All the rules basically say are "f you, NCAA, you can't regulate it".

Bottom line here, though, is that:

* HBCU fans are in a defensive crouch with people that are claiming that Jackson State's education is inferior to Florida State's. I understand why they are, but that's not at issue here. Deion does provide something special to a specific type of top recruit who is a DB. At a football level, I understand why Hunter would go to Jackson State, and at an education level, I see why a young African-American might want an HBCU education. Bottom line, there are a multitude of good reasons for Hunter to go to Jackson State over Florida State academically and athletically.
* HBCU fans are thrilled to put a stick in the eye of what they see as a Plantation U of Florida State, where they suspect for decades recruits were shoveled money in do-nothing jobs, and now, according to them, the playing field is leveled. No, it's not. The paymaster has gone from a cheating institution of higher learning to a for-profit national casino and sportsbook. This is not a positive development with lots of questions about the integrity of their future competitions as a result.
* People think this can be replicated at other HBCUs. It won't, unless they are also employees of large pirate media organizations who want to make their name by paying college football players.
* Deion Sanders will do what is best for Deion Sanders. It is what he has done his entire life. It is what he has done at Jackson State - for example, by skipping out of coaching some games and apparently interviewing mid-season for the TCU job. When he leaves - and it will be soon, probably within a year at the very most - he will take his son and Hunter with him, and someone will be left holding the bag at Jackson State. The hope is he will leave Jackson State better than how he found it. Unfortunately that hasn't been a part of his history.

The issue here is partially the wild-west of NIL laws, but also a system that allows Deion Sanders to have such an obvious conflict-of-interest as a head football coach. I think because people are emotionally conflating this to the HBCU vs. PWI narrative that they're missing the bigger picture. What Deion's doing should be illegal.

[FUBeAR]

Actually. JSU may have been pretty competitive in the playoffs. They are going to continue to get better. Their fans might get sick of blowouts in the near future Nah…Snooki never got tired of endorsing LifeStyles condoms, The Situation always loved endorsing his Devotion protein-infused vodka, and Kylie would never relinquish her billion dollar cosmetics empire.

JSU, and other smart HBCU’s, will keep building their treasure troves provided by ESPN & other sponsors to (legally, by current NCAA ‘rules’) buy the best HS & Transfer Players, meanwhile seeking access to, and inclusion in the CFP. That will happen within 5 years.

They are playing 3D chess and the rest of FCS is playing tic-tac-toe with chalk on their driveways.

[POD Knows]

Nah…Snooki never got tired of endorsing LifeStyles condoms, The Situation always loved endorsing his Devotion protein-infused vodka, and Kylie would never relinquish her billion dollar cosmetics empire.

JSU, and other smart HBCU’s, will keep building their treasure troves provided by ESPN & other sponsors to (legally, by current NCAA ‘rules’) buy the best HS & Transfer Players, meanwhile seeking access to, and inclusion in the CFP. That will happen within 5 years.

They are playing 3D chess and the rest of FCS is playing tic-tac-toe with chalk on their driveways.
Yea. They are going to advance their programs to the point where they are in the CFP. This thing with Sanders is a blimp on the radar. You are dreaming.

I hope they milk these institutions to get their $ from the private sector. Maybe then the taxpayer can quit picking up the tab.

[Panther88]

Deion does three things extremely well. 1) Play (and presumably coach) DB. 2) Promoting Deion Sanders. 3) Separating people from their money.

The problem here is 2) and 3). Deion Sanders is an employee of Barstool. He gets a check from them. When he talks to a recruit, is he speaking as a coach, or as a representative of Barstool? Did he steer him towards an NIL deal with the company that pays him as well?

It is not surprising that a top-rated DB would want to go to an HBCU to play under a HOF DB. Under normal circumstances, such a "flip" would be surprising, but not earth-shattering. Deion presumably can teach a DB things that 99.9% of other coaches cannot. That makes sense.

But the problem is... everything else.

When Deion leaves (there is no earthly way he is staying at Jackson State for more than a year, if that), does Hunter stay? Does the tie to Barstool mean he will automatically transfer to the next Barstool U. that Deion will coach at?

Barstool is a media company, and a gambling establishment. Will Barstool require as their ROI have Hunter push some of Barstool's gambling products? You can bet on Jackson State sports through their sportsbook. A real easy way for Deion and presumably Hunter to make some money is to place some bets on Jackson State sports and throw the game - or maybe just, say, the first half. What if Barstool itself wanted to throw the game to have the house get more money?

Mississippi's NIL laws are basically anything goes. Unlike PA (which has some restrictions on who can offer them), Mississippi doesn't have any restrictions on gambling establishments, bars, the Chinese government, or anything on who can offer NIL offers. Pretty much if you have a pulse you can throw money at recruits. All the rules basically say are "f you, NCAA, you can't regulate it".

Bottom line here, though, is that:

* HBCU fans are in a defensive crouch with people that are claiming that Jackson State's education is inferior to Florida State's. I understand why they are, but that's not at issue here. Deion does provide something special to a specific type of top recruit who is a DB. At a football level, I understand why Hunter would go to Jackson State, and at an education level, I see why a young African-American might want an HBCU education. Bottom line, there are a multitude of good reasons for Hunter to go to Jackson State over Florida State academically and athletically.
* HBCU fans are thrilled to put a stick in the eye of what they see as a Plantation U of Florida State, where they suspect for decades recruits were shoveled money in do-nothing jobs, and now, according to them, the playing field is leveled. No, it's not. The paymaster has gone from a cheating institution of higher learning to a for-profit national casino and sportsbook. This is not a positive development with lots of questions about the integrity of their future competitions as a result.
* People think this can be replicated at other HBCUs. It won't, unless they are also employees of large pirate media organizations who want to make their name by paying college football players.
* Deion Sanders will do what is best for Deion Sanders. It is what he has done his entire life. It is what he has done at Jackson State - for example, by skipping out of coaching some games and apparently interviewing mid-season for the TCU job. When he leaves - and it will be soon, probably within a year at the very most - he will take his son and Hunter with him, and someone will be left holding the bag at Jackson State. The hope is he will leave Jackson State better than how he found it. Unfortunately that hasn't been a part of his history.

The issue here is partially the wild-west of NIL laws, but also a system that allows Deion Sanders to have such an obvious conflict-of-interest as a head football coach. I think because people are emotionally conflating this to the HBCU vs. PWI narrative that they're missing the bigger picture. What Deion's doing should be illegal.

xsmhx

Coach Prime leaves after 1 year w/ JSU? It's been 1.3 years of employment and he's still there. WTH? xlolx

Also, there was no leveraged "barstool bargaining" w/ Mr Hunter. Stop the lie(s). xsmhx

You sure do make a lot of far-fetched assumptions w/out knowing the flavor or culture of the kool-aid you drink. Have you even walked one campus of an sec school?

OTH.

[FUBeAR]

Yea. They are going to advance their programs to the point where they are in the CFP. This thing with Sanders is a blimp on the radar. You are dreaming.
Ummm…hmmmm….

And if FUBeAR of 5 years ago told POD of 5 years ago that a biological male would be dominating NCAA Women’s Swimming in 5 years, what would POD of 5 years ago have said?

Or…keep it topical…5 years ago…2016 FUBeAR says, “Within 5 years the #1 HS Recruit in the country will sign with an FCS Team for a $3M package deal.” …. 2016 POD undoubtedly says, “You are dreaming.” or…more likely, “Just STFU, you ****in idiot!”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9_nWlSX6Us

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Also, there was no leveraged "barstool bargaining" w/ Mr Hunter. Stop the lie(s).

How do you know? All we know is a Barstool employee was in the room or on the zoom when Hunter talked to Deion Sanders about coming to Jackson State. Are we to honestly believe that Barstool giving Hunter a very lucrative NIL deal is completely unrelated to the fact that Deion is a Barstool employee?

[POD Knows]

Ummm…hmmmm….

And if FUBeAR of 5 years ago told POD of 5 years ago that a biological male would be dominating NCAA Women’s Swimming in 5 years, what would POD of 5 years ago have said?

Or…keep it topical…5 years ago…2016 FUBeAR says, “Within 5 years the #1 HS Recruit in the country will sign with an FCS Team for a $3M package deal.” …. 2016 POD undoubtedly says, “You are dreaming.” or…more likely, “Just STFU, you ****in idiot!”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9_nWlSX6Us
In 2016 I would have absolutely believed that a man would be breaking womens records. I understand incrementalism. There is no limit to the insanity. Think of the stupidest **** that can happen and it will happen. I just think this current opportunity with NIL, and other things, will favor the haves but you might be right. I will need to keep on open mind here.

[caribbeanhen]

In 2016 I would have absolutely believed that a man would be breaking womens records. I understand incrementalism. There is no limit to the insanity. Think of the stupidest **** that can happen and it will happen. I just think this current opportunity with NIL, and other things, will favor the haves but you might be right. I will need to keep on open mind here.

Just pop Blinded by the light in your 8 track player .... song will blow your mind

[Panther88]

How do you know? All we know is a Barstool employee was in the room or on the zoom when Hunter talked to Deion Sanders about coming to Jackson State. Are we to honestly believe that Barstool giving Hunter a very lucrative NIL deal is completely unrelated to the fact that Deion is a Barstool employee?

How do most of us not know? xlolx Most in the know already knew that Mr Hunter would choose, not "flip," towards JSU. Where were you during the information exchange? xlolx xlmaox

Late. lol

[Lehigh Football Nation]

How do most of us not know? xlolx Most in the know already knew that Mr Hunter would choose, not "flip," towards JSU. Where were you during the information exchange? xlolx xlmaox

Late. lol

Your unprovable defense of "most in the know knew he would have accepted anyway" is noted, however what will you say when his Barstool NIL deal is revealed, when there will need to be hard evidence that NIL wasn't discussed or ever was discussed, despite the fact that Deion is a Barstool employee?

[FUBeAR]

Just pop Blinded by the light in your 8 track player .... song will blow your mind
Manfred Mann or Springsteen rendition?

[POD Knows]

Manfred Mann or Springsteen rendition?
Both versions suck. It is a coin flip.

[Panther88]

Your unprovable defense of "most in the know knew he would have accepted anyway" is noted, however what will you say when his Barstool NIL deal is revealed, when there will need to be hard evidence that NIL wasn't discussed or ever was discussed, despite the fact that Deion is a Barstool employee?

Post the link to the NIL deal, date, timestamp, all of it, Mr All Knowing. :-/

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Post the link to the NIL deal, date, timestamp, all of it, Mr All Knowing. :-/

https://barrettsportsmedia.com/2021/12/16/barstool-deion-sanders-top-recruit/


“I did not realize that Deion Sanders was in the pockets of Barstool Sports,” Kravitz said. “He’s got a podcast (21st and Prime) on their site, he’s got his own webpage on barstoolsports.com, there’s a video feature to (the podcast) as well, and then he gets this recruit.”


Kravitz added that there’s likely a lot of NIL money on the table for Hunter by going to Jackson State, and they played a clip of a recent appearance by Sanders on a podcast with Barstool president Dave Portnoy and Dan “Big Cat” Katz where Sanders eluded [sic] to a big-time signing. Katz said Sanders basically pioneered NIL and the transfer portal in college football.


“He’s using the portal of Barstool to create an opportunity for the guy that he just recruited,” Kravitz said.

[WestCoastAggie]

If they go to that format, that brings NCAT back into play. It also brings Tennessee State and Hampton into play as well. But I think from a contractual standpoint, the game is SWAC champ vs MEAC champ. So unless the MEAC goes away, or ESPN buys them out and changes the format, there won't be any changes within the next few years.

Word on the street is that ESPN/ESPN Events can switch up the format after the 2023 game.

[WestCoastAggie]

Deion does three things extremely well. 1) Play (and presumably coach) DB. 2) Promoting Deion Sanders. 3) Separating people from their money.

The problem here is 2) and 3). Deion Sanders is an employee of Barstool. He gets a check from them. When he talks to a recruit, is he speaking as a coach, or as a representative of Barstool? Did he steer him towards an NIL deal with the company that pays him as well?

It is not surprising that a top-rated DB would want to go to an HBCU to play under a HOF DB. Under normal circumstances, such a "flip" would be surprising, but not earth-shattering. Deion presumably can teach a DB things that 99.9% of other coaches cannot. That makes sense.

But the problem is... everything else.

When Deion leaves (there is no earthly way he is staying at Jackson State for more than a year, if that), does Hunter stay? Does the tie to Barstool mean he will automatically transfer to the next Barstool U. that Deion will coach at?

Barstool is a media company, and a gambling establishment. Will Barstool require as their ROI have Hunter push some of Barstool's gambling products? You can bet on Jackson State sports through their sportsbook. A real easy way for Deion and presumably Hunter to make some money is to place some bets on Jackson State sports and throw the game - or maybe just, say, the first half. What if Barstool itself wanted to throw the game to have the house get more money?

Mississippi's NIL laws are basically anything goes. Unlike PA (which has some restrictions on who can offer them), Mississippi doesn't have any restrictions on gambling establishments, bars, the Chinese government, or anything on who can offer NIL offers. Pretty much if you have a pulse you can throw money at recruits. All the rules basically say are "f you, NCAA, you can't regulate it".

Bottom line here, though, is that:

* HBCU fans are in a defensive crouch with people that are claiming that Jackson State's education is inferior to Florida State's. I understand why they are, but that's not at issue here. Deion does provide something special to a specific type of top recruit who is a DB. At a football level, I understand why Hunter would go to Jackson State, and at an education level, I see why a young African-American might want an HBCU education. Bottom line, there are a multitude of good reasons for Hunter to go to Jackson State over Florida State academically and athletically.
* HBCU fans are thrilled to put a stick in the eye of what they see as a Plantation U of Florida State, where they suspect for decades recruits were shoveled money in do-nothing jobs, and now, according to them, the playing field is leveled. No, it's not. The paymaster has gone from a cheating institution of higher learning to a for-profit national casino and sportsbook. This is not a positive development with lots of questions about the integrity of their future competitions as a result.
* People think this can be replicated at other HBCUs. It won't, unless they are also employees of large pirate media organizations who want to make their name by paying college football players.
* Deion Sanders will do what is best for Deion Sanders. It is what he has done his entire life. It is what he has done at Jackson State - for example, by skipping out of coaching some games and apparently interviewing mid-season for the TCU job. When he leaves - and it will be soon, probably within a year at the very most - he will take his son and Hunter with him, and someone will be left holding the bag at Jackson State. The hope is he will leave Jackson State better than how he found it. Unfortunately that hasn't been a part of his history.

The issue here is partially the wild-west of NIL laws, but also a system that allows Deion Sanders to have such an obvious conflict-of-interest as a head football coach. I think because people are emotionally conflating this to the HBCU vs. PWI narrative that they're missing the bigger picture. What Deion's doing should be illegal.

It shouldn't be illegal IMHO. Keep all of the money stuff above board. It's not like it wasn't going back in the day, right?

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Word on the street is that ESPN/ESPN Events can switch up the format after the 2023 game.

ESPN is calling the shots, eh?

[Panther88]

https://barrettsportsmedia.com/2021/12/16/barstool-deion-sanders-top-recruit/

Your name is OBVIOUSLY chip lamarca! xlmaox xlmaox xlmaox xlmaox xlmaox xlmaox xlmaox

[Panther88]

ESPN is calling the shots, eh?

You don't even know who created and pushed for the post-season match-up between the two conferences. xsmhx

I'm not here to educate.

Do what's semi-right and wish Mr Hunter well at his school of choice, like other fbs'ers salivating over their 5* signees yesterday.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Your name is OBVIOUSLY chip lamarca! xlmaox xlmaox xlmaox xlmaox xlmaox xlmaox xlmaox

You found me out! Venture over to the Political Board to check out my political beliefs! xlmaox

[Lehigh Football Nation]

You don't even know who created and pushed for the post-season match-up between the two conferences. xsmhx

I'm not here to educate.

Do what's semi-right and wish Mr Hunter well at his school of choice, like other fbs'ers salivating over their 5* signees yesterday.

Reread my posts. I only wish Hunter the best. Hell, I hope he goes to JSU and graduates from there with Deion as his head coach. I just don't believe Deion will stick around. Hope Deion proves me wrong.

[unknown3]

It is good that the SWAC is not part of the FCS playoff. They would be just more chaff to get rid of over Thanksgiving weekend. There are enough undeserving teams in the playoffs now as it is.

You're in arguably the worst conference in FBS now. I wouldn't be throwing sticks.

[POD Knows]

You're in arguably the worst conference in FBS now. I wouldn't be throwing sticks.
I am an NDSU Bison fan. The SHSU avatar is the result of a bet I lost here. the team I support is in my posting information. Unlike you.

[Anthony215]

Congrats to that young man. When kids spurn the G5 offers for Bama, FSU, Clemson, Ohio State and USC where they are being paid by boosters it's ok but when an kid makes a choice to get paid and go to a HBCU who is coached by the best to ever play the position there's shots fired against him and his choice. Go get paid and go play some ball Travis. I think he stays a year or two then transfers up to prove hey I can dominate anywhere I go FCS/FBS/HBCU or Florida State.

[Panther88]

Reread my posts. I only wish Hunter the best. Hell, I hope he goes to JSU and graduates from there with Deion as his head coach. I just don't believe Deion will stick around. Hope Deion proves me wrong.

Hope he stays but it's his decision to make. When an opportunity presents itself, one has to sieze it.

[caribbeanhen]

Manfred Mann or Springsteen rendition?

BS is the most hyped up pop artist who ever faked playing a guitar

I’ll go with MM

[nevadagriz]

My Take is that Deion just wrapped up the FSU job after next year with this signing. He will be a package deal bringing Hunter with him wherever he goes. This kid will get paid, get to play for Deion,and Go onto bigger things next year. Coach sanders just played the game with all the new rules better then any other coach this year.

[WestCoastAggie]

My Take is that Deion just wrapped up the FSU job after next year with this signing. He will be a package deal bringing Hunter with him wherever he goes. This kid will get paid, get to play for Deion,and Go onto bigger things next year. Coach sanders just played the game with all the new rules better then any other coach this year.

You know what? I think Deion sticks around Jacktown for a while.

[ASU33]

Word on the street is that ESPN/ESPN Events can switch up the format after the 2023 game.

Yep. 2023 is the "look back" period.

[FUBeAR]

You know what? I think Deion sticks around Jacktown for a while.
FUBeAR agrees.

He’s in full charge there - free to move & shake & cut back against the grain & dance into the Endzone his way after successes - just like when he was returning punts or picks.

He would not be in full charge at any P5. FUBeAR doesn’t see Coach Prime as a man that tolerates constraints well and he would have constraints at a P5 that no amount of ability and charisma can shake.

[TSUsupporter]

How would an at-large format work? Would they have a playoff to get into the Bowl?

Or would it just be a matter of ESPN saying, "We know Alcorn State won the SWAC this year but we think Deion Sanders and his big-name recruits will get better ratings so we're going to take Jackson State instead"?

I guess I understand the possibility of maybe picking 1 vs 2, or maybe a 4 team playoff, based on the "Black College National Rankings". This would open the door for Hampton, NCAT, Tennessee State and maybe even a really good D-II HBCU to compete for the Celebration Bowl. That would be kind of cool.


I think they'll take the SWAC champ, no matter what. I think they just want the leeway to take the next best HBCU, whether they play in the SWAC, the MEAC, Big South, or the OVC.

The game on Saturday between Jackson St and South Carolina St is big. But what if it were a rematch between JSU and FAMU? That game would have even more buzz. With JSU and FAMU in the same conference, only one of those teams will be eligible to go. So I think that's the option that people want, especially if something happens to the MEAC.

[nevadagriz]

I think they'll take the SWAC champ, no matter what. I think they just want the leeway to take the next best HBCU, whether they play in the SWAC, the MEAC, Big South, or the OVC.

The game on Saturday between Jackson St and South Carolina St is big. But what if it were a rematch between JSU and FAMU? That game would have even more buzz. With JSU and FAMU in the same conference, only one of those teams will be eligible to go. So I think that's the option that people want, especially if something happens to the MEAC.
Do you think the score would be more then 7-6 the second time???

[FUBeAR]

what if it were a rematch between JSU and FAMU? That game would have even more buzz.

So…Jackson State wins the SWAC East, earns the right to play in the SWAC Championship Game against SWAC West Champion, Prairie View A&M, beats Prairie View A&M, earns the right to participate in the Celebration Bowl…only to face the Team that they beat out to earn the right to play in the SWAC Championship game…in the Celebration Bowl; a Team they also already beat during the regular season? Seems the Rattlers sure get the best end of that deal! And that’s the match-up HBCU Fans would be clamoring for?

Dang, HBCU Fans ARE ready for FBS Football.

FUBeAR’s down…can’t wait to peep that Middle Tennessee vs. Toledo blood feud war in the Bahamas Bowl tomorrow. Should be an INSTANT CLASSIC!

[Panther88]

I think they'll take the SWAC champ, no matter what. I think they just want the leeway to take the next best HBCU, whether they play in the SWAC, the MEAC, Big South, or the OVC.

The game on Saturday between Jackson St and South Carolina St is big. But what if it were a rematch between JSU and FAMU? That game would have even more buzz. With JSU and FAMU in the same conference, only one of those teams will be eligible to go. So I think that's the option that people want, especially if something happens to the MEAC.

xlolx More wishful wants from the outsiders lol. As it stands today, TnSU will never get the invite and neither will NCA&T or Hampton. It is MEAC champ vs SWAC champ, contractually. I do believe the contract will be renewed, considering the success and growth.

[WileECoyote06]

Yep. 2023 is the "look back" period.

Tell the Aggies to keep dreaming and focus on securing a playoff bid.

[WileECoyote06]

I think they'll take the SWAC champ, no matter what. I think they just want the leeway to take the next best HBCU, whether they play in the SWAC, the MEAC, Big South, or the OVC.

The game on Saturday between Jackson St and South Carolina St is big. But what if it were a rematch between JSU and FAMU? That game would have even more buzz. With JSU and FAMU in the same conference, only one of those teams will be eligible to go. So I think that's the option that people want, especially if something happens to the MEAC.

Who are 'these people'? xeyebrowxxlolx

The MEAC isn't dead. As a matter of fact, we're set to thrive over the next few years. SCSU took some lumps this year, but they're two boneheaded plays from being 8-3. That team will grow up; and so will NCCU and Norfolk State. Even Delaware State is moving in the right direction.

[caribbeanhen]

Who are 'these people'? xeyebrowxxlolx

The MEAC isn't dead. As a matter of fact, we're set to thrive over the next few years. SCSU took some lumps this year, but they're two boneheaded plays from being 8-3. That team will grow up; and so will NCCU and Norfolk State. Even Delaware State is moving in the right direction.

Delaware State 😂

Lets go crazy

[WestCoastAggie]

Tell the Aggies to keep dreaming and focus on securing a playoff bid.

ooh. An alumnus of a school whose butt A&T kicks on an almost annual basis tells us to “keep dreaming.” 🤣🤣🤣

[WileECoyote06]

ooh. An alumnus of a school whose butt A&T kicks on an almost annual basis tells us to “keep dreaming.” 🤣🤣🤣

Keep on bringing that Aggie alumni money to Atlanta for the bowl and enjoy yourselves.

However, sorry you can’t step with us GDI.

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

You’re thinking small. JSU (and, perhaps, other HBCU’s) will begin petitioning very soon to have equitable access to and be included in the CFP.

FUBeAR believes they will win that argument in some form or fashion.

It can be part of the reparations package in-between the checks and bowing down asking for forgiveness for the sins of 1844.

[Panther88]

It can be part of the reparations package in-between the checks and bowing down asking for forgiveness for the sins of 1844.
What does this imbecilic post have to do with "Travis Hunter," the thread title?

IDAM? xconfusedx

[Panther88]

xlolx More wishful wants from the outsiders lol. As it stands today, TnSU will never get the invite and neither will NCA&T or Hampton. It is MEAC champ vs SWAC champ, contractually. I do believe the contract will be renewed, considering the success and growth.
Prophetic.

As anticipated, EE reached an extension agreement with TCB AND with Mercedes Benz stadium. 6 additional years of future success. xthumbsupx

I purchased my annual 2 tix and will catch it on the tube in a few.

[WileECoyote06]

To hear some tell it. . the SWAC was gonna kick the MEAC out of the bowl. lol

[kdinva]

Travis Hunter will start for JSU in September......he can pick his position.

[FUBeAR]

Travis Hunter will start for JSU in September......he can pick his position.
He should definitely be able to find a spot in this Secondary…

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/images/full/toast_102709511.jpg

[ysubigred]

Travis Hunter will start for JSU in September......he can pick his position.He needs too.. JSU didn't look too swift today..

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

[POD Knows]

Do you have to be good to play on the JSU D. This is a serious question.

[Panther88]

To hear some tell it. . the SWAC was gonna kick the MEAC out of the bowl. lol

Wishful wants lol. Not gonna' happen over the next 6 years and hope our voting proxy never allows it. :D

Hella' victory by coach Pough and staff. Actually okay w/ the MEAC victory, considering the earlier turmoil.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Travis Hunter will start for JSU in September......he can pick his position.

....HE'LL BE UH TWO-WAY.......WR/DB.......GORDIE WHO?????????.............BRAWK!

[TribeNomad1]

He can identify as "position fluid".

[caribbeanhen]

Do you have to be good to play on the JSU D. This is a serious question.

You still have Jackson St ranked over Dartmouth?

[POD Knows]

You still have Jackson St ranked over Dartmouth?
Not anymore but I probably wouldn’t have Dartmouth in my top 25 either. I watched JSU play a few games this fall. I didn’t rank them blindly. I might be the only guy on here that watched games for a very team he voted for. A fair number of teams I watched multiple games.

[caribbeanhen]

Not anymore but I probably wouldn’t have Dartmouth in my top 25 either. I watched JSU play a few games this fall. I didn’t rank them blindly. I might be the only guy on here that watched games for a very team he voted for. A fair number of teams I watched multiple games.

Dartmouth not in top 25 ? Keep watching

I was surprised to see you rank Jackson State considering they hadn’t played anybody over the good Ivy League teams that actually have been wining consistently OOC and looking pretty good doing it

Dartmouth? You can make a case for them being top 10, if you’re not in the inner circle that a handful of FCS teams enjoy, you’re very beatable by these good Ivy teams.

Now que up Gil with but Valparaiso

[JSUSoutherner]

Dartmouth not in top 25 ? Keep watching

I was surprised to see you rank Jackson State considering they hadn’t played anybody over the good Ivy League teams that actually have been wining consistently OOC and looking pretty good doing it

Dartmouth? You can make a case for them being top 10, if you’re not in the inner circle that a handful of FCS teams enjoy, you’re very beatable by these good Ivy teams.

Now que up Gil with but Valparaiso

The Ivy is like the Big South or the SWAC except the Ivy doesn't get exposed in the playoffs.

Prove me wrong.

I'll wait.

[POD Knows]

The Ivy is like the Big South or the SWAC except the Ivy doesn't get exposed in the playoffs.

Prove me wrong.

I'll wait.
These nor’easters love these Ivy’s. I have watched them play, quite a bit actually. Not impressed, don’t get the allure.

[caribbeanhen]

The Ivy is like the Big South or the SWAC except the Ivy doesn't get exposed in the playoffs.

Prove me wrong.

I'll wait.

lol. So wrong

[caribbeanhen]

These nor’easters love these Ivy’s. I have watched them play, quite a bit actually. Not impressed, don’t get the allure.

I never liked these elitist colleges and always naively assumed the Ivies were not good enough to play and win playoff games until I actually watched them, the talent is there!

Why they won’t participate is not because they are afraid of embarrassing themselves.... just the opposite actually

[POD Knows]

I never liked these elitist colleges and always naively assumed the Ivies were not good enough to play and win playoff games until I actually watched them, the talent is there!

Why they won’t participate is not because they are afraid of embarrassing themselves.... just the opposite actually
Oh really. What, they are afraid they will outclass and massacre everybody?

[caribbeanhen]

Oh really. What, they are afraid they will outclass and massacre everybody?

It is a great unspoken mystery but I think that’s part of it, I think they are terrified of potentially becoming known as “football schools”

[POD Knows]

It is a great unspoken mystery but I think that’s part of it, I think they are terrified of potentially becoming known as “football schools”
Is this a comedy routine or something. It must be cerebral comedy, the acquired taste sort of stuff.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Is this a comedy routine or something. It must be cerebral comedy, the acquired taste sort of stuff.


Ivy's use the excuse it takes away from studying for finals crap. Total worthless excuse.


I wish NDSU would have a game with any upper echelon Ivy team. Cupcake games are nice also!!

[POD Knows]

Ivy's use the excuse it takes away from studying for finals crap. Total worthless excuse.


I wish NDSU would have a game with any upper echelon Ivy team. Cupcake games are nice also!!
Yea. It would be awesome. Some pretty decent destination games for sure. It will never happen.

[ysubigred]

These nor’easters love these Ivy’s. I have watched them play, quite a bit actually. Not impressed, don’t get the allure.Take the top ivy team, insert them into a MVFC schedule, don't think they're built for a meat grinder schedule.. xtwocentsx

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I never liked these elitist colleges and always naively assumed the Ivies were not good enough to play and win playoff games until I actually watched them, the talent is there!

Why they won’t participate is not because they are afraid of embarrassing themselves.... just the opposite actually


Oh really. What, they are afraid they will outclass and massacre everybody?

1. All eight Ivy teams routinely crank out at least 1-2 guys going to NFL training camps, yearly, and boast many still playing in the pros (a notable example: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick). Only a handful of other FCS programs can boast the same type of rate.
2. Because of the generous financial aid package many of the Ivies offer all students, the depth on some of these Ivy League teams is insane, because their WO and PWO frequently are getting large amounts of institutional $ to attend school.
3. I don't know precisely why the Ivy League denies their football players the same privilege afforded literally every other Ivy League athlete, but I can say that Ivy League football teams don't resemble other FCS teams. The top talent on these teams would start on every program in FCS and many FBS schools - that I can say for certain. But football games and championships aren't won on the back of one player.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

1. All eight Ivy teams routinely crank out at least 1-2 guys going to NFL training camps, yearly, and boast many still playing in the pros (a notable example: QB Ryan Fitzpatrick). Only a handful of other FCS programs can boast the same type of rate.
2. Because of the generous financial aid package many of the Ivies offer all students, the depth on some of these Ivy League teams is insane, because their WO and PWO frequently are getting large amounts of institutional $ to attend school.
3. I don't know precisely why the Ivy League denies their football players the same privilege afforded literally every other Ivy League athlete, but I can say that Ivy League football teams don't resemble other FCS teams. The top talent on these teams would start on every program in FCS and many FBS schools - that I can say for certain. But football games and championships aren't won on the back of one player.


Pfft....Fox Sports has multiple Ivy games on every year up here and I haven't seen much if at all, FBS talent. Sure, there are NFL training camp guys, all conferences have them. NDSU would blow out every Ivy team if they played. So would the top teams in the FCS. Middle of the road FCS would be on even playing ground and the bottom of the FCS would probably get beat. After watching the Harvard/Yale game this year, no way either one of those teams would come close to the top 10 in FCS....probably top 20

[caribbeanhen]

Pfft....Fox Sports has multiple Ivy games on every year up here and I haven't seen much if at all, FBS talent. Sure, there are NFL training camp guys, all conferences have them. NDSU would blow out every Ivy team if they played. So would the top teams in the FCS. Middle of the road FCS would be on even playing ground and the bottom of the FCS would probably get beat. After watching the Harvard/Yale game this year, no way either one of those teams would come close to the top 10 in FCS....probably top 20


Harvard went on the road and smoked a pretty good Holy Cross team this year

38-13

pretty sure these top Ivy teams are every bit as good as say Villanova

[ysubigred]

Harvard went on the road and smoked a pretty good Holy Cross team this year

38-13

pretty sure these top Ivy teams are every bit as good as say VillanovaFor a game or two.. put any top ivy in the Big Sky, MVFC, or CAA they'd be bottom of the pack..

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

[caribbeanhen]

For a game or two.. put any top ivy in the Big Sky, MVFC, or CAA they'd be bottom of the pack..

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

lol so wrong boomer

[ysubigred]

lol so wrong boomerYour knowledge of the Ives are interesting grasshopper.. boomers are always right [emoji736]

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

[caribbeanhen]

Your knowledge of the Ives are interesting grasshopper.. boomers are always right [emoji736]

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

Hey is it True you lost to Delaware State the same year you won a championship in 91?

https://masseyratings.com/cf1991/9217

that sked is crazy

[ysubigred]

Hey is it True you lost to Delaware State the same year you won a championship in 91?

https://masseyratings.com/cf1991/9217

that sked is crazyAs you know, YSU has serious issues getting a W in the state of Delaware lol..

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

[caribbeanhen]

As you know, YSU has serious issues getting a W in the state of Delaware lol..

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

You beat Delaware in 1981 at Newark

[ysubigred]

You beat Delaware in 1981 at NewarkOh yeah our one and done.. felt like UNI in the playoffs.. [emoji1787]

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

[caribbeanhen]

Or, it would seem silly to. The SWAC's formula is working well for them and they really dont need the playoffs honestly. Celebration bowl is a trip to ATL for students and fans, band showcases, step shows,e tc. Not to mention a million dollar paycheck. That vs going to play in Montana isn't appealing as some of you seem to believe here. Probably why the top teams keep leaving in lieu of bowl games.

Good thing nobody cares how bad the football is

Deion is all about Sanders

always has been

glad a classy Coach Pough put a beat down on Prime Slime

[POD Knows]

Good thing nobody cares how bad the football is

Deion is all about Sanders

always has been

glad a classy Coach Pough put a beat down on Prime Slime
This. I couldn’t stand Sanders when he played in the NFL. Did that pussy make a single tackle in the NFL. His entire act was look at me.

[caribbeanhen]

This. I couldn’t stand Sanders when he played in the NFL. Did that pussy make a single tackle in the NFL. His entire act was look at me.

ask Tim McCarver about Sanders

or Carlton Fisk

[Houndawg]

Harvard went on the road and smoked a pretty good Holy Cross team this year

38-13

pretty sure these top Ivy teams are every bit as good as say Villanova

And FCS teams can hang around for a while against FBS teams once or twice a year. But not against a steady diet.

The Ivies know that they'd quickly be exposed against Villanova level competition on a regular basis

[Lehigh Football Nation]

The schools of the CAA know that they'd quickly be exposed against Harvard, Yale, and Princeton level competition on a regular basis

Fixed it for you

[caribbeanhen]

Fixed it for you

I totally agree with you

[POD Knows]

ask Tim McCarver about Sanders

or Carlton Fisk
I saw the McCarver deal. Sanders is a snake oil salesmen and a grifter that just happened to be decent one on one guy (that is all his mind was able to handle) and a good kick returner.

[POD Knows]

https://en.as.com/en/2021/12/10/nfl/1639158921_102106.amp.html

13 Ivy leaguers in the NFL now. That is a couple more than NDSU has active right now. Yea. It is deep bench of awesomeness.

[caribbeanhen]

https://en.as.com/en/2021/12/10/nfl/1639158921_102106.amp.html

13 Ivy leaguers in the NFL now. That is a couple more than NDSU has active right now. Yea. It is deep bench of awesomeness.

Well I have never said they would beat the Bison but progress is being made here because a few years ago the Ivy haters were saying they were Patriot League or NEC level

[ysubigred]

Well I have never said they would beat the Bison but progress is being made here because a few years ago the Ivy haters were saying they were Patriot League or NEC levelJerry's kid's and the Blind Center is a step ahead of the PL and NEC.. Ives may do well in those leagues..

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

[caribbeanhen]

Jerry's kid's and the Blind Center is a step ahead of the PL and NEC.. Ives may do well in those leagues..

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

This is progress

[POD Knows]

Well I have never said they would beat the Bison but progress is being made here because a few years ago the Ivy haters were saying they were Patriot League or NEC level
I don’t remember seeing that but the Ivy League is better than both of those conferences in football for the most part

[caribbeanhen]

I don’t remember seeing that but the Ivy League is better than both of those conferences in football for the most part

duh

[POD Knows]

duh
Yea. It that doesn’t mean the Ivy’s are any good just because they may be better than the Patriot or NEC

[caribbeanhen]

Yea. It that doesn’t mean the Ivy’s are any good just because they may be better than the Patriot or NEC

outside of the top 10 to 12 teams who is any good in FCS?

[FUBeAR]

You’re thinking small. JSU (and, perhaps, other HBCU’s) will begin petitioning very soon to have equitable access to and be included in the CFP.

FUBeAR believes they will win that argument in some form or fashion.
To anyone doubting FUBeAR’s prediction above, he offers exhibit A.

https://twitter.com/gojsutigersfb/status/1473759079181000707

[Panther88]

To anyone doubting FUBeAR’s prediction above, he offers exhibit A.

https://twitter.com/gojsutigersfb/status/1473759079181000707

Please don't. xlolx

[Sonic98]

I'm not sure that's a good comparison. Plus, I don't think they put much around Maker. Maker should have chosen a team that had more going for it. If he really wanted to make some kind of history he should have at least gone to a team in the conference that was at the top or some other school that made it to the tournament. Don't make the path harder than it needs to be. That would be like Hunter going to Alabama State. Don't pick the middle of the road team

[Sonic98]

I don't care how it happened or the circumstance surrounding it but an FCS school poaching a recruit from a P5 school on signing day eve is delicious irony and I LOVE IT!!!
Some other people have too much hate to see it that way

- - - Updated - - -


A five star is no guarantee. Anyone remember Makur Maker, the five star basketball recruit from 2020 that signed with Howard?

Played two games, got hurt, left school. Playing now in Australia.

Meant to quote this one before

[Sonic98]

outside of the top 10 to 12 teams who is any good in FCS?

Our social media accounts have always done a little friendly trolling online. It's kicked up some since Prime got here

[caribbeanhen]

Our social media accounts have always done a little friendly trolling online. It's kicked up some since Prime got here

that might be a troll post but tell me why it isn’t true

[Panther88]

I'm not sure that's a good comparison. Plus, I don't think they put much around Maker. Maker should have chosen a team that had more going for it. If he really wanted to make some kind of history he should have at least gone to a team in the conference that was at the top or some other school that made it to the tournament. Don't make the path harder than it needs to be. That would be like Hunter going to Alabama State. Don't pick the middle of the road team

Unless... Mr Maker wanted to be associated with The Mecca and its documented history and legacy of too many grads. I chose gradSch - The Mecca over Purdue, THE Ohio St, LSU, and Cal - which all accepted me & obviously wanted that large corp fellowship $$$$ that came with me lol. I wanted to be a part of the rich history The Mecca offered, along with sending those fellowship $$$$ there vs helping to make the rich even richer. I think it's a simple game to master, as your Travis Hunter also saw the bigger picture, hence his decision for JSU undergrad over those P5s.

Same reason you and I chose our respective undergrads: the history, the connectivity, the legacy; it's ours. Love this stuff.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Unless... Mr Maker wanted to be associated with The Mecca and its documented history and legacy of too many grads. I chose gradSch - The Mecca over Purdue, THE Ohio St, LSU, and Cal - which all accepted me & obviously wanted that large corp fellowship $$$$ that came with me lol. I wanted to be a part of the rich history The Mecca offered, along with sending those fellowship $$$$ there vs helping to make the rich even richer. I think it's a simple game to master, as your Travis Hunter also saw the bigger picture, hence his decision for JSU undergrad over those P5s.

Same reason you and I chose our respective undergrads: the history, the connectivity, the legacy; it's ours. Love this stuff.

.....WHEN PRIME'S TEAMS....GOES SOUFF.....OL' TRAVIS HAS DUH PORTAL.........BEST UH TWO WHIRLS.......AWK!

[Panther88]

.....WHEN PRIME'S TEAMS....GOES SOUFF.....OL' TRAVIS HAS DUH PORTAL.........BEST UH TWO WHIRLS.......AWK!

Or better still, he could go the path of his, not yours or mine, his distinguished alum Mr Walter Payton and continue on and have a lucrative career, just as he had.

Some of you sound like those old folks who tried to convince the Walter Paytons, Jerry Rices, Steve McNairs, et al not to pursue where their heart and mind was situated. What a defeatist type attitude. xsmhx

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Or better still, he could go the path of his, not yours or mine, his distinguished alum Mr Walter Payton and continue on and have a lucrative career, just as he had.

Some of you sound like those old folks who tried to convince the Walter Paytons, Jerry Rices, Steve McNairs, et al not to pursue where their heart and mind was situated. What a defeatist type attitude. xsmhx

Jerry Rice's recruiting journey is particularly interesting. At least one analyst attributed his recruitment to MVSU as then-head coach Archie Cooley "showing up" to visit him when other (White) coaches didn't.

https://ballandorder.substack.com/p/1984-week-jerry-rice-at-mississippi

It's my impression that it was easier in those days to be "missed" by recruiters who often didn't go scout smaller schools unless they had heard of a particular player. (This was also true at Lehigh, who used to poach lots of overlooked talent in the Lehigh Valley.) Those days however are long gone.

As for Walter, I believe he decided to go to Jackson State because his brother Eddie was already going there.

[Panther88]

Jerry Rice's recruiting journey is particularly interesting. At least one analyst attributed his recruitment to MVSU as then-head coach Archie Cooley "showing up" to visit him when other (White) coaches didn't.

https://ballandorder.substack.com/p/1984-week-jerry-rice-at-mississippi

It's my impression that it was easier in those days to be "missed" by recruiters who often didn't go scout smaller schools unless they had heard of a particular player. (This was also true at Lehigh, who used to poach lots of overlooked talent in the Lehigh Valley.) Those days however are long gone.

As for Walter, I believe he decided to go to Jackson State because his brother Eddie was already going there.

xconfusedx xlolx

[Panther88]

Hey white lib. Nice effort but you just got bitch slapped. So are you going to admit you were wrong or are you going to call out P88 for his smack down. Wow, you are in a tough place lefty, crawl back in my crusty lefty hole or call out a black dude for questioning your take. I will sit back and listen.

OMG! Pilgrims' Pride, the clucker-chicken, butt-hurt politics on the sports board.

Ursus? xsmhx

[Lehigh Football Nation]

The fact is Walter Payton went to Jackson State to join his older brother Eddie Payton, who was already attending Jackson State. Jerry Rice chose to go to Mississippi Valley because (to a large degree) he was overlooked by the huge programs in his backyard. The idea that they were hotly contested recruits by the Nick Sabans of their time is not a correct take.

By the time they graduated some teams of the NFL had a good idea they were getting great players. The Raiders, Rams and 49ers eagerly were signing future hall-of-famers from HBCUs and more dim franchises were not.

I don't remember Steve McNair's recruiting story totally, but that gets into the NFL and college ranks having the galaxy bad take that Black QBs can't succeed - that and McNair was not a prototypical-sized QB (he was short). The Titans knew better, and the rest is history.

HBCU's have plenty to be proud of. They gave football opportunities to kids that were overlooked by blue blood programs for decades. They had great success exploiting blue blood programs' racism and foolishness. But this idea of Jackson State "out-recruiting Ole Miss for Walter Payton" is not correct. Ole Miss wasn't looking.