Patriot League Pick 'Em - Week 9

[DFW HOYA]

This week's schedule, with Fordham on bye.

Holy Cross (5-2) at Lehigh (0-7), 12:00pm
Lafayette (2-5) at Georgetown (2-4), 12:30pm
Bucknell (1-6) at Colgate (2-6), 1:00pm

[ngineer]

This week's schedule, with Fordham on bye.

Holy Cross (5-2) at Lehigh (0-7), 12:00pm
Lafayette (2-5) at Georgetown (2-4), 12:30pm
Bucknell (1-6) at Colgate (2-6), 1:00pm

Despite our break out game at Fordham, I watched the end of the Holy Cross/Gate game and feel that the Crusaders are much stronger overall than Fordham, especially on defense. Rams have a ton of weapons on O, but their D aint tight; whereas, HC is . The OL will need to replicate what they did at Fordham to give us a chance to stay in the game and hope for some lucky breaks. Defense needs to tighten up in the secondary. We have some young, athletic kids but still showing some inexperience with blown coverages. Holy Cross 31-20.

The Hoya game should be competitive. Not sure what to make of the 'pards after the Harvard game. At Gtown, it could be dicey in that bandbox. I call it a toss up, with slight edge to Lafayette being a bit bigger, stronger and balanced on offense. Lafayette 24-22.

At home, 'gate should win handily. 35-17.

[crusader11]

I hope Lehigh and Colgate are able to figure things out in the coming years because the PL is better when these programs are good, but it’s really a sad state of affairs what’s going on with these programs currently.

[bonarae]

Holy Cross
Lafayette (toss up)
Colgate

[crusader11]

Holy Cross
Lafayette (toss up)
Colgate

Guessing Lafayette is -13.5

[The Cats]

Holy Cross (5-2) at Lehigh (0-7)
Lafayette (2-5) at Georgetown (2-4)
Bucknell (1-6) at Colgate (2-6)

[Ivytalk]

Holy Cross
Lafayette
Colgate

[CHIP72]

I plan to attend the Lafayette/Georgetown game. It will be interesting to see and experience the upgraded Cooper Field.

Hey, I'll make picks again this week:

*Holy Cross
*Lafayette
*Colgate

[kdinva]

Holy Cross 41; Lehigh 13
Georgetown 24, Lafayette 20
Colgate 28, Bucknell 23

[NY Crusader 2010]

Holy Cross
Lafayette
Colgate

[TheValleyRaider]

Inches away from 0-3, which is not usually how I want to see a week go at this point in the season. Aren't we supposed to have it all figured out, cruising into an inevitable and obvious conclusion? Or should we just embrace the (not quite) chaos? 26-15 on the season as we come to the end of October (already?).

Holy Cross at Lehigh Holy Cross Good on the Hawks for putting a performance together. Tough luck to not finish the job, but it does set up an opportunity to grow in the season's second half. Or perhaps it is just a false dawn, and Lehigh falls back to old ways. Holy Cross meanwhile has found its stride again, two straight emphatic wins against inferior opponents. Tough-ish stretch to close the season, with 3 of the final 4 away from the Woo, but this will be a good way to get started before the key games against other League contenders.

Lafayette at Georgetown Lafayette Or are they contenders? The Leopards get to lick their wounds after a thumping by Harvard, which isn't that different than HC's fate. At some point, though, records do not lie and the Pards are 2-5. Technically that is a worse record than Georgetown's 2-4. The Hoyas do have a common opponent, both beating Bucknell, but Lafayette was, shall we say, more convincing. Could be a defensive struggle, and I wouldn't put it past the Leopards to drop a game they shouldn't, but really they shouldn't.

Bucknell at Colgate Colgate It has been a steep and sudden descent for Raider football, and the saddest part of losing to HC wasn't the disappointment in falling, but the sense of inevitability about it (a certain picker's selections notwithstanding). There is some skill on the team, and enough institutional support to rebuild, but right now it is a lot of muddling through. The League schedule shook out nicely for a good start, but this may be the best chance to get to a 3rd League win (finishing .500 in the League!). No reason to believe the Bison will be easy. They have a win over Cornell (unlike another program in this game), and Cecchini is 1-0 as a head-man against the Raiders. Of course, that snapped a 5-game Colgate win streak, and is only Bucknell's second in the last 15 years. How much does inertia matter at this stage?

[IslandPard]

Tavani would 1000% lose this game to GT. Garrett has been known for let down games as well. If Jordan and the Oline are still banged up, it will be interesting. It has all the makings of a trap game.

[Pard4Life]

I plan to attend the Lafayette/Georgetown game. It will be interesting to see and experience the upgraded Cooper Field.


The irony is that you better call ahead for tickets... the place sells out.. because it only seats 2,000.

[Pard4Life]

Lafayette (2-5) at Georgetown (2-4), 12:30pm


It's FIOS BOWL week!!!

Pards are not a great team, but I SMDH at the lack of respect around here. Leopards win... not close, but not a blow out... 31-14.

[Pard4Life]

Wow... PL threads are dead these days...

[DFW HOYA]

Wow... PL threads are dead these days...

We need this poster back to shake things up...

https://d3trabu2dfbdfb.cloudfront.net/3/8/380070_300x300_1.jpeg

[CHIP72]

The irony is that you better call ahead for tickets... the place sells out.. because it only seats 2,000.

With the new grandstand, it now seats about 3750.

I missed the 2019 Lafayette game at Georgetown when they were doing renovations, had removed the home side seats, had a capacity under 2000 fans, and sold out weeks in advance.


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[Digby]

Holy Cross
Lafayette (must win)
Bucknell. Cur non?

[Digby]

Sagarin:

167: Holy Cross
181: Fordham
212: Lafayette
236: Georgetown
243: Colgate
252: Bucknell
253: Lehigh

This is awful.

Meanwhile, after Gilmore’s glorious defeat last week and Lafayette’s general malaise, The Game could be a loss even if Lehigh goes in winless.

[NY Crusader 2010]

For those asking, yes Lafayette Leopards are contenders.

[Bogus Megapardus]

These are becoming increasingly difficult to find . . .

Princeton (-23.5) at Cornell o/u 48.5

Holy Cross (-23.5) at Lehigh o/u 43.5

Yale (-1.5) vs Columbia o/u 39.5

Harvard (-6) vs Dartmouth o/u 38.5

Lafayette (-7.5) at Georgetown o/u 43.5

Penn (-1) vs Brown o/u 60.5

Colgate (-7.5) vs Bucknell o/u 36.5

[Leopard Loyalist]

A good season of predictions for me so far (32-9), but of course it gets marginally more difficult now that the OOC games are in the rear view mirror.

Holy Cross (5-2) at Lehigh (0-7), 12:00pm
Lafayette (2-5) at Georgetown (2-4), 12:30pm
Bucknell (1-6) at Colgate (2-6), 1:00pm

[DFW HOYA]

Holy Cross (5-2) at Lehigh (0-7), 12:00pm
Lafayette (2-5) at Georgetown (2-4), 12:30pm
Bucknell (1-6) at Colgate (2-6), 1:00pm

The last week of October and exactly one of these teams has a winning record. Why isn't this a larger issue?

[ngineer]

The last week of October and exactly one of these teams has a winning record. Why isn't this a larger issue?

It's become obvious that our 'peer' schools, when it comes to football, are the Pioneer League, MEAC, and maybe SWAC. We are 'scheduling up' and the records reflect that.

[Sader87]

A good season of predictions for me so far (32-9), but of course it gets marginally more difficult now that the OOC games are in the rear view mirror.

Holy Cross (5-2) at Lehigh (0-7), 12:00pm
Lafayette (2-5) at Georgetown (2-4), 12:30pm
Bucknell (1-6) at Colgate (2-6), 1:00pm

32-9 would put you in a T18 at the pick 'em on Crossports....just sayin'

[Pards Rule]

And 10 years ago today I was traversing the snow to see Tavani and the Pards get snowballed by Bucknell, 39-13, in Easton. That was the low point.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

And 10 years ago today I was traversing the snow to see Tavani and the Pards get snowballed by Bucknell, 39-13, in Easton. That was the low point.

I remember traveling to Hamilton to see a Top 10 Lehigh team beat up on Colgate that day. A little more than 24 hours later I was at the Eagles-Cowboys Sunday night game at the Linc. That was one of Vick's last "good" games as an Eagle....

A decade can fly by....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Colgate 24 Bucknell 17 - Colgate is struggling mightily in recent weeks. The Bison provide some positive mojo....
Lafayette 31 Georgetown 24 - The Hoyas have been a reasonably tough out most of the season. With that said, the 'Pards keep their PL title hopes alive with a scrappy win...
Holy Cross 34 Lehigh 6 - Lehigh's performance last week definitely got Chesney and company's attention. That's not a good think for the Mountain Hawks....

[Pards Rule]

I remember traveling to Hamilton to see a Top 10 Lehigh team beat up on Colgate that day. A little more than 24 hours later I was at the Eagles-Cowboys Sunday night game at the Linc. That was one of Vick's last "good" games as an Eagle....

A decade can fly by....

Indeed I took my nephew (recall Carney2 had called him "The Jinx" as any Pard game he attended we lost! I believe it was broken at #150!) who was a frosh at Ocean City NJ HS. His dad drove him to Vincentown Diner where we had lunch and then I proceeded with him to Easton. It was a cold rain at Vincentown and the snow started just as I got off the 295 onto Rt 29. Trees down and folks had chain sawed the higher end laying on wires so one lane could get through at a time. We made it toward end of first quarter. Still snowing. It was a wet snow and I estimated 8 inches in stands. It stopped at halftime as I recall I went over to the Wawa to get batteries for what - my digital camera! I think all of 300 people. I heard after Tavani had tried to get the Patriot League to postpone it but no go. I decided not to drive back in the dark as trees were falling still. We searched in vain for over an hour for a hotel. Luckily my erstwhile travel agent found the very last room in the new Bethlehem Sands!

[Pard4Life]

These are becoming increasingly difficult to find . . .



Why? I thought sports gambling was exploding these days...

[Pard4Life]

And 10 years ago today I was traversing the snow to see Tavani and the Pards get snowballed by Bucknell, 39-13, in Easton. That was the low point.

Yes that's right... 10 years ago was the historic snowstorm. I think the low point was going scoreless in two straight games in 2015, one of them was against Georgetown. May have been three straight games... 2015-2016 was pretty awful... hell let's do a decade review of LC football...

2010 - many close games, two wins, started off with a foreboding loss to Georgetown
2011 - the FIOS Bowl, one point loss to Hoya after a thumping in Fargo; one of our worst performances I've seen (Harvard), and a nice OT win vs Colgate (INT return for TD)
2012 - Start 3-0, inexplicably lose on the MOON, sit 5-2, then lose by three to Hoya and do not win another game
2013 - QB shuffle, finally plays the frosh Drew Reed, 1-5, then 4-1 with a lose to Colgate... them whipped by UNH (thus starting THE THREAD)
2014 - uninspiring 50-3 win vs Bobby Morris, loss to Bison in OT, miracle win at Colgate, 150
2015 - the wheels come off; only win is vs Wagner, two straight 35-7 losses, one of them to Hoya, then two straight 42-0 losses (the low point), yet the Lehigh game is only 49-35 (we made a late comeback)
2016 - we were at least competitive on paper; lost to Army 62-7, then 42-0 next week to Bucknell (wtf?), Frank makes a comment about money... adios Frankosaurus
2017 - JG show starts with some surprising wins, and a competitive Lehigh game (where we got too conservative and lost by 7)
2018 - very bad start, lose to Hoya, Lehigh game was embarassing yet we played Army competitively prior week
2019 - we end 4-1 after starting 0-7, lose to Hoya

We went 4-6 against Georgetown in 2010s... disgrace
2011 -

[Pards Rule]

Yes that's right... 10 years ago was the historic snowstorm. I think the low point was going scoreless in two straight games in 2015, one of them was against Georgetown. May have been three straight games... 2015-2016 was pretty awful... hell let's do a decade review of LC football...

2010 - many close games, two wins, started off with a foreboding loss to Georgetown
2011 - the FIOS Bowl, one point loss to Hoya after a thumping in Fargo; one of our worst performances I've seen (Harvard), and a nice OT win vs Colgate (INT return for TD)
2012 - Start 3-0, inexplicably lose on the MOON, sit 5-2, then lose by three to Hoya and do not win another game
2013 - QB shuffle, finally plays the frosh Drew Reed, 1-5, then 4-1 with a lose to Colgate... them whipped by UNH (thus starting THE THREAD)
2014 - uninspiring 50-3 win vs Bobby Morris, loss to Bison in OT, miracle win at Colgate, 150
2015 - the wheels come off; only win is vs Wagner, two straight 35-7 losses, one of them to Hoya, then two straight 42-0 losses (the low point), yet the Lehigh game is only 49-35 (we made a late comeback)
2016 - we were at least competitive on paper; lost to Army 62-7, then 42-0 next week to Bucknell (wtf?), Frank makes a comment about money... adios Frankosaurus
2017 - JG show starts with some surprising wins, and a competitive Lehigh game (where we got too conservative and lost by 7)
2018 - very bad start, lose to Hoya, Lehigh game was embarassing yet we played Army competitively prior week
2019 - we end 4-1 after starting 0-7, lose to Hoya

We went 4-6 against Georgetown in 2010s... disgrace
2011 -

Great capture...I was at that early Oct 2011 Harvard loss at Fisher. It was the lost decade of Pard ball

[Pard4Life]

Great capture...I was at that early Oct 2011 Harvard loss at Fisher. It was the lost decade of Pard ball

Sure it is tough to keep a great string going like we had 2004-2009, and yes there will be down years. I guess that's what we expected in 2010-11. I recall 2012 seemed promising and then it blew up. Looking back, it was apparent something was structurally wrong with LC football by 2012. There really was no progress after that. End of 2013 was a flash in the plan but by the early 2014 season, it was clear that 2013 was a mirage.

[IslandPard]

https://youtu.be/djGB0G9zqYI

https://youtu.be/qd2ZojET_tE

Olmstead returns but Jordan and possibly Forney are still out. 🤦🏽*♂️🤦🏽*♂️🤦🏽*♂️

[CHIP72]

In the house at the new and improved Cooper Field for the Lafayette/Georgetown game. More on Cooper Field itself later.


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[CHIP72]

Georgetown drives right down the field on its first possession and scores a touchdown on a roughly 35 yard catch and run.

Georgetown 7 Lafayette 0

Q1 12:16


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[CHIP72]

Georgetown successfully recovers a very well executed pooch onsides kick, touching the ball exactly 10 yards after the kick. Hoyas ball at the 50 yard line.


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[CHIP72]

Hoyas miss a 44 yard FG attempt. Still 7-0 Georgetown.


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[CHIP72]

Lafayette goes for it on 4th and 1 at their own 36 yard line and gets stuffed. G-town ball at the Leopards’ 36 yard line.


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[CHIP72]

Georgetown takes advantage of the short field and drives 36 yards for the touchdown.

Georgetown 14 Lafayette 0

Q1 4:44


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[DFW HOYA]

Georgetown's Pierce Holley is 8-9 for 113 yards, threw one away.

[Sader87]

HC mostly sleepwalking, up 7-3 with about 5 left in the half

[CHIP72]

Lafayette’s (horrendous) quarterback throws an interception off a tipped pass that he forced into coverage, and the Georgetown return puts the pull at the Leopards’ 33 yard line.

On the Hoyas’ first offensive play, they draw a LC defensive pass interference. The ball is inside the LC 20 yard line.


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[Pard4Life]

Georgetown takes advantage of the short field and drives 36 yards for the touchdown.

Georgetown 14 Lafayette 0

Q1 4:44


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Do we really look that bad? 143-7 total yards? Georgetown about to score again!

[Pard4Life]

Time to burn down the program...

[CHIP72]

Do we really look that bad? 143-7 total yards? Georgetown about to score again!

Yes, it has been that lopsided so far. The Leopards’ QB threw a ball right to a G-town defender on the first LC offensive possession but the defender dropped it.

Georgetown 17 Lafayette 0

Q1 1:28


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[Digby]

This is a must-win for Lafayette. Ugh.

[CHIP72]

The Leopards strike with about a 60 yard TD run.

Georgetown 17 Lafayette 7

Q1 0:30


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[DFW HOYA]

Best 14 minutes I've seen from a Georgetown team since the 1997 win over Duquesne.

[CHIP72]

The Leopards have a 36 yard FG attempt blocked. Georgetown recovers and takes over at their own 44 yard line.


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[Pard4Life]

The Leopards have a 36 yard FG attempt blocked. Georgetown recovers and takes over at their own 44 yard line.


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We keep outdoing ourselves 🙄

[Pards Rule]

Lafayette’s (horrendous) quarterback throws an interception off a tipped pass that he forced into coverage, and the Georgetown return puts the pull at the Leopards’ 33 yard line.

On the Hoyas’ first offensive play, they draw a LC defensive pass interference. The ball is inside the LC 20 yard line.




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Chip is that AuShaun Davis?

[CHIP72]

Lafayette with a 47 yard TD pass, capping a 91 yard drive.

Georgetown 17 Lafayette 14

Q2 5:19


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[CHIP72]

Chip is that AuShaun Davis?

Not sure, don’t have a program.

He’s played a lot better since making a couple horrible passes on the Leopards’ first 3 possessions.


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[Pards Rule]

We keep outdoing ourselves 

Not good at all! They have got to get it together fast! Reminds me of the 2010 season opening stun loss. I wasnt there but heard final score on KYW 1060 radio as I was spending a birthday weekend at shore. That game was on my birthday, Saturday Sept. 11, 2010

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Not sure, don’t have a program.

He’s played a lot better since making a couple horrible passes on the Leopards’ first 3 possessions.


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Um, is he black?

[CHIP72]

Not good at all! They have got to get it together fast! Reminds me of the 2010 season opening stun loss. I wasnt there but heard final score on KYW 1060 radio as I was spending a birthday weekend at shore. That game was on my birthday, Saturday Sept. 11, 2010

FWIW, that is the first Lafayette game I ever attended. (I also attended my first Lehigh game earlier the same day.) The Leopards’ loss really marked the beginning of their decline under Frank Tavani IMO.

Also, Georgetown is winless in games I’ve seen them play in person since then, all at Georgetown (3 losses to Lehigh, 2 losses to Lafayette).


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[CHIP72]

Not good at all! They have got to get it together fast! Reminds me of the 2010 season opening stun loss. I wasnt there but heard final score on KYW 1060 radio as I was spending a birthday weekend at shore. That game was on my birthday, Saturday Sept. 11, 2010

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Um, is he black?

Yes.


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[CHIP72]

My view today.

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[Pards Rule]

FWIW, that is the first Lafayette game I ever attended. (I also attended my first Lehigh game earlier the same day.) The Leopards’ loss really marked the beginning if their decline under Frank Tavani IMO.

Also, Georgetown is winless in games I’ve seen them play in person since then, all at Georgetown (3 losses to Lehigh, 2 losses to Lafayette).


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Great way to start the decade. I agree the slide started that day. Is Lafayette QB black? If so, its AuShaun. I presume unless there was an injury Garrett would be starting him.

[Pard4Life]

FWIW, that is the first Lafayette game I ever attended. (I also attended my first Lehigh game earlier the same day.) The Leopards’ loss really marked the beginning if their decline under Frank Tavani IMO.

Also, Georgetown is winless in games I’ve seen them play in person since then, all at Georgetown (3 losses to Lehigh, 2 losses to Lafayette).


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I think the beginning of our decline was the 2009 Lehigh game… coaching cost us the game.

[CHIP72]

Georgetown with a drive for a 39 yard FG; the drive started at the 40 yard line after the kickoff was out of bounds.

Georgetown 20 Lafayette 14

Q2 1:20


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[Pards Rule]

I think the beginning of our decline was the 2009 Lehigh game… coaching cost us the game.

I recall 2 plays - the game ending interception and the punt returner from Lafayette, Nathan Padilla (how I recall the name!) making the foolish decision to move the ball from one hand to other with two Hawks closing in fast and IN HIS OWN END ZONE AND TOWARD THE HAND CLOSEST TO THE ONCOMING OPPONENTS! Of course he wasnt able to secure it before he was crashed/stripped of it. He was crossing the goal line when it happened and I believe Lehigh recovered at its 2 yard line. P4L, you recall that bobble?

[Pard4Life]

Yes. It was recovered in the end zone for a TD though.

Most sinful plays were the hook and ladder call on the first drive. And the four straight run up the middle from the G. Points there and not even a game. Curley did not cost us this game.

[DFW HOYA]

Games like this are examples of why competing without scholarships is such a hill to climb.

Georgetown has lost three of its top four receivers to injury and the second quarter predictably bogged down as a result.

1st qtr total yards: Georgetown 138-70
2nd qtr total yards: Lafayette 130-70

[CHIP72]

I should note there is a solid contingent of Lafayette fans at this game, though most of them are sitting on the north side of the (west) stands while I’m on the south side closer to the enter/exit gate.


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[Digby]

If Lafayette can’t win this game, just give it up, go to D3 and create a new “Middle 3” with Moravian and Muhlenberg. The winner gets the O’Hanlon Cup in honor of the man who taught us to revel in low expectations.
Gilmore just went for another FG and is down just 14-6.

[TheValleyRaider]

Bucknell 3
Colgate 7
Halftime

This one has been exactly what you'd expect given the score. Brecia has been the QB for Colgate, he ran in the only TD of the game

[Pard4Life]

My view today.

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Games like this are examples of why competing without scholarships is such a hill to climb.

Georgetown has lost three of its top four receivers to injury and the second quarter predictably bogged down as a result.

1st qtr total yards: Georgetown 138-70
2nd qtr total yards: Lafayette 130-70

Um scoreboard? We would be in the same spot FWIW

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh with a blocked punt inside the HC 10! Can they score a TD?!?!

The answer is yes! First play!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Holy Cross 14 Lehigh 12 3:26 3Q

[CHIP72]

Um scoreboard? We would be in the same spot FWIW

Scoreboard is at the edge of the photo on the left behind the north end zone.


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[Digby]

The Patriot league: does everything matter, or does nothing matter?
Well, it’s what we got.

[crusader11]

Dump on Gilmore all you want, but with a young and depleted roster, Lehigh was largely better than Fordham last week and has been better than HC today.

[CHIP72]

The Hoyas kick a 45 yard FG on their first 2nd hand possession after forcing a 3 and out on the first LC possession of the half.

Georgetown 23 Lafayette 14

Q3 10:01


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[Bogus Megapardus]

Pards are just ghastly. Is this all there is?

[Pard4Life]

Scoreboard is at the edge of the photo on the left behind the north end zone

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I was responding to DFW lol

[Pard4Life]

Pards are just ghastly. Is this all there is?

Yes. Time to start rooting for the Tabbies full time now 😒

[DFW HOYA]

Scoreboard is at the edge of the photo on the left behind the north end zone.


The scoreboard predates the field (1994).

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Dump on Gilmore all you want, but with a young and depleted roster, Lehigh was largely better than Fordham last week and has been better than HC today.

Heading for 0-8 and a 15 game losing streak. He and Brisson gotta go....

[CHIP72]

The scoreboard predates the field (1994).

I really wish Georgetown would put a scoreboard at the south end of the field that wouldn’t be in the sun on sunny days.


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[Digby]

Dump on Gilmore all you want, but with a young and depleted roster, Lehigh was largely better than Fordham last week and has been better than HC today.

I’m a big Gilmore fan. He may provide our best chance to win in November.

[CHIP72]

Heading for 0-8 and a 15 game losing streak. He and Brisson gotta go....

At least today, it beats the disaster taking place in south Philadelphia…[emoji30]


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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

At least today, it beats the disaster taking place in south Philadelphia…[emoji30]


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I think Carey will be sent packing. This can't continue on for the sake of Temple's program....

[DFW HOYA]

I really wish Georgetown would put a scoreboard at the south end of the field that wouldn’t be in the sun on sunny days.


Yet another line item cut in that project.

[Digby]

Holy Cross is sealing it. Go Gilmore!

[Digby]

I had Temple season tickets during the Bobby Wallace days. Then we expected them to lose but to fight.

[CHIP72]

Lafayette puts together a time consuming TD drive that started at the Georgetown 45 yard line.

Georgetown 23 Lafayette 21

Q3 0:12


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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Holy Cross 31 Lehigh 12 5:40 3Q

Headed to 0-8, 15 game losing streak, 5 touchdowns in 8 games....ugh...

[Sader87]

HC up 31-12 now.....ugly, ugly game both ways

[Digby]

I’d lay even or better odds that Gilmore is back next year. Unless they take some of the $21 million from
the sale of some of Don Stabler’s land and buy him out.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I’d lay even or better odds that Gilmore is back next year. Unless they take some of the $21 million from
the sale of some of Don Stabler’s land and buy him out.

If they lose to Bucknell next week he should be left in Lewisburg. He's now 0-3 against Chesney losing all 3 at Goodman...

[Pards Rule]

Yes. It was recovered in the end zone for a TD though.

Most sinful plays were the hook and ladder call on the first drive. And the four straight run up the middle from the G. Points there and not even a game. Curley did not cost us this game.

OK I stand corrected...It was a disaster

[CHIP72]

Lafayette is stopped on a 3rd and 2 play at the Georgetown 16 yard line on an excellent open field tackle by the Hoyas after LC drove from their own 10 yard line, but the Leopards kick a 35 yard FG to take their first lead of the game.

Lafayette 24 Georgetown 23

Q4 5:31


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[CHIP72]

Timeout situation with less than 4 minutes left in Lafayette/Georgetown:

Georgetown 2
Lafayette 1


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[CHIP72]

Georgetown converts a 4th and 6 and gets the ball to the 50 yard line.


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[Pards Rule]

Georgetown converts a 4th and 6 and gets the ball to the 50 yard line.


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Im nervous!

[CHIP72]

Georgetown faces a 4th and 4 at the LC 33 yard line and decides to run the clock down to 7 seconds to try a 50 yard FG.

Kick coming up after the GU timeout.


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[Pards Rule]

Georgetown faces a 4th and 4 at the LC 33 yard line and decides to run the clock down to 7 seconds to try a 50 yard FG.

Kick coming up after the GU timeout.


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Awaiting the game!

[Digby]

ESPN gives Georgetown a 54% chance to win.
this is Lafayette’s season.

[CHIP72]

Lafayette blocks Georgetown’s 51 yard FG attempt. The Leopards beat the Hoyas 24-23.


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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Pards win!

[BNiche]

Blocked. Pards win.

[Pards Rule]

Yes!!!!!!!!! Wow a great, needed win!

[Digby]

Woohoo!

[Pards Rule]

Lafayette blocks Georgetown’s 51 yard FG attempt. The Leopards beat the Hoyas 24-23.


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Who blocked it? YES!

[CHIP72]

Objectively speaking, I did not agree with Georgetown’s play calling or clock management AT ALL in the last 3 minutes of the game. Way, WAY too conservative.


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[DFW HOYA]

Scholarships 24
No Scholarships 23
Final

Games like this are why the Georgetown fan base checks out of football. They see no reason to follow a team that cannot make progress against better funded schools.



Objectively speaking, I did not agree with Georgetown’s play calling or clock management AT ALL in the last 3 minutes of the game. Way, WAY too conservative.
He had basically one receiver left. Not many options left.

[Digby]

That fourth-down conversion to midfield should have ended Lafayette’s hopes.
Better to be lucky …

[Bogus Megapardus]

FiOS or no FiOS, I'd like to give a tip o' the hat to the Hoya players and coaches for an extremely well-played game. xsalutex

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Scholarships 24
No Scholarships 23
Final

Games like this are why the Georgetown fan base checks out of football. They see no reason to follow a team that cannot make progress against better funded schools.



He had basically one receiver left. Not many options left.

Georgetown should seriously consider just dropping the program. The administration clearly has zero interest in investing enough to be viable in one of the worst conferences in the country.

Temple might be making those hard decisions in the next 5 years or so. And rightfully so.....

[Digby]

Georgetown’s history of football/level/no football is checkered. Still today they were good and that game poses questions about Lafayette’s recruiting and coaching.

[DFW HOYA]

Georgetown’s history of football/level/no football is checkered.

It's been playing football for 110 of the last 124 years, but it's like running a race with weights in your shoes.

[hawkineer]

Lehigh will win its game vs. Georgetown in two weeks.
Based on what? Georgetown looked better today than the self destructing, undisciplined mess that is a Gilmore coached football team. Lehigh’s only shot at a win is Bucky and that, at best, is a toss up.

[DFW HOYA]

Based on what? Georgetown looked better today than the self destructing, undisciplined mess that is a Gilmore coached football team. Lehigh’s only shot at a win is Bucky and that, at best, is a toss up.

Depth:
1. 2nd string QB--playing well but still 2nd
2. Three WR's out
3. No running game
4. Linebacker issues which Lafayette exploited all afternoon

[fillfittonfield]

DFW - I have followed your postings for a long time and respect your knowledge regarding the Hoya program and PL football in general.

Without trying to sound disrespectful, I have an honest question (or two).

1) Do you think Georgetown is a better overall fit for the Pioneer league instead of the PL?

2) Has anyone in power (e.g. the AD, BofT, etc.) had discussions about moving out of the PL and into the PL*for football?

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*Pioneer League

[DFW HOYA]

Without trying to sound disrespectful, I have an honest question (or two).

1) Do you think Georgetown is a better overall fit for the Pioneer league instead of the PL?

2) Has anyone in power (e.g. the AD, BofT, etc.) had discussions about moving out of the PL and into the PL for football?
- Updated - - -


Q. Do you think Georgetown is a better overall fit for the Pioneer league instead of the PL?
A. Not at all. The PFL model is based on a different admissions model for athletes and the use of merit aid upon admission which Georgetown does not, will not, and has no interest in. Every PFL school can offer merit aid in the form of "academic scholarships." Georgetown offers zero academic/"merit" aid.

Q. Has anyone in power (e.g. the AD, BofT, etc.) had discussions about moving out of the PL and into the PL for football?
A. None.

[fillfittonfield]

Got it.

Thanks for passing this along. I didn’t know about the different models.

I want all PL teams to be competitive and play at the same level playing field. I always have been disappointed that GTown won’t go to a scholarship model like the other league members (I understand why they won’t, but it is still frustrating). Also am frustrated that Bucknell doesn’t allow 5th year players under any circumstances (unlike other members who generally permit it when a player is injured under certain conditions).

I think it’s good for our league for all teams to be competitive in the league and out of the league. The two issues I mentioned above are a big roadblock to achieving that parity.

[Pards Rule]

IF (huge) Pards sweep last three games they will have first winning season since 2009

[Digby]

IF (huge) Pards sweep last three games they will have first winning season since 2009

I didn’t realize it was that long. Pardville needs a kick in the pants. Start at Kirby.

[Pard4Life]

Yes… that long. We were 5-2 in 2012 but proceeded to lose the last four, including to Hoya.

[Pards Rule]

Yes… that long. We were 5-2 in 2012 but proceeded to lose the last four, including to Hoya.

Yep beat Yale and Cross en route to 5-2. Upset Tribe first game with a halftime lightning delay over an hour. Lost to Robert Morris in one of the Sept games. Down 28-0 (right?) we staged frantic comeback to tie and lost on a 50 yard FG on last play (ironic post given todays ending)

[Digby]

Bucknell, Lehigh and Georgetown are out.
Fordham V. Holy Cross, Nov. 13. Probably the title game.

[Franks Tanks]

Pards really needed this one. I think they are turning the corner, but need to learn to put away the teams they should beat. Need to beat Colgate and Lehigh to consider this season a “success”. Holy Cross will be a steep challenge but can get them if we play our best ball and get the bounces.

Nice job coming back from an early deficit, I can’t remember the last time that happened.

[Sader87]

HC has been sort of Jekyll&Hyde this season...they were clearly out of synch for large stretches of today's game....defense saved the day.

Need to clean it up for next week.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Do you think Georgetown is a better overall fit for the Pioneer league instead of the PL?

No, nope and not. Hoyas belong in Patriot League football.

[Pards Rule]

Pards really needed this one. I think they are turning the corner, but need to learn to put away the teams they should beat. Need to beat Colgate and Lehigh to consider this season a “success”. Holy Cross will be a steep challenge but can get them if we play our best ball and get the bounces.

Nice job coming back from an early deficit, I can’t remember the last time that happened.

EXACTLY -a 17-0 hole to boot. Great regroup and now its off to Worcester and lets win there (oops, didnt want to jinx them with that famous paraphrase). I agree if beat Colgate and Lehigh and play Cross tough, winning season.

[Pards Rule]

No, nope and not. Hoyas belong in Patriot League football.

If anything UMass should go back to FCS. Got whomped by former FCS Liberty yesterday 62-17. Yes we upset Liberty on their turf way back in 2008!

[CHIP72]

If anything UMass should go back to FCS. Got whomped by former FCS Liberty yesterday 62-17. Yes we upset Liberty on their turf way back in 2008!

Continuing with the tangent theme, the only time I've seen Liberty play was in a DI-AA/FCS round of 16 playoff game at Villanova in 2014, a game in which the Wildcats rallied from behind to win 29-22. (The game was one of only two DI-AA/FCS playoff games I've attended, the other being the memorable Lehigh/Towson game in suburban Baltimore in 2011.) That game out on the Main Line had some of the worst conditions I've ever experienced at an outdoor game; it was about 40-45 degrees F and rained the entire game. IIRC, the game started at 6 PM because the Holy War (i.e. St. Joe's/Villanova basketball) was played at the Pavilion earlier the same day. In addition to Liberty/Villanova football, I also attended a different Philadelphia Big Five matchup earlier that day; Temple edged La Salle 58-57 at the Palestra.

[Pard4Life]

Pards really needed this one. I think they are turning the corner, but need to learn to put away the teams they should beat. Need to beat Colgate and Lehigh to consider this season a “success”. Holy Cross will be a steep challenge but can get them if we play our best ball and get the bounces.

Nice job coming back from an early deficit, I can’t remember the last time that happened.

Right, Frank's team never came back if they got down more than 7 points. If our message board were not 'cancelled', I could look this up because I've posted on it before... the largest rally I can recall is being down 11 at Lehigh in 2005. I think we may have comeback on Fordham a few years ago after being down 14 points... but 17 points in the 1Q?? Unprecedented for a modern Pard team (maybe a Russo team had done it)

[Pards Rule]

Right, Frank's team never came back if they got down more than 7 points. If our message board were not 'cancelled', I could look this up because I've posted on it before... the largest rally I can recall is being down 11 at Lehigh in 2005. I think we may have comeback on Fordham a few years ago after being down 14 points... but 17 points in the 1Q?? Unprecedented for a modern Pard team (maybe a Russo team had done it)

All i can recall is Russo ahead by 16 (1995 - losing with 2 TDs and two 2 pointers and OT TD), 19-0 the following year (losing, 23-19) and 21-0 in 1997 (losing again 43-31) vs Lehigh. I recall walking out of Goodman in 1997 after the game and hearing a Pard fan holler "How much do you need, Bill?" (meaning a lead to win)

[The Boogie Down]

If our message board were not 'cancelled', I could look this up because I've posted on it before...

Kinda feels like your message board is right here. Exactly where the Lehigh one was for the past decade+.

[Bogus Megapardus]

We really need our Pard message board.

[ngineer]

Just able to check in since yesterday's game. Son and daughter-in-law arrived late afternoon from N.C. and busy since catching up.

Was at Goodman for a very frustrating loss. Not surprised if HC took us lightly and found themselves in dogfight. Unfortunately, for us, we made some hellacious mistakes that were hard to take. Some stupid personal foul calls that were uncalled for, one which allowed HC to keep the ball after a 3rd and 15. I agree, there was a lack of discipline that was troubling. There was some trash talking out on the field and some late 'extra-curricular' stuff that the Refs failed to address before things started getting 'chippy'. A bit of kerfuffle between the teams going to halftime. One of the HC assistants (big guy with a beard) was instigating the yelling rather than directing his players to locker room. Unbelievable how we were not able to run the ball after gashing Fordham for 260 yards the week before. Overall, defense played well, but the offense put them in some short yardage situations that were costly. We have some good young athletes so there is hope for the future; though I agree a new voice is needed in the OC position. The next three games are all 'winnable', meaning if we can start shooting ourselves in the ass, we can win. Of course, we are just as capable of losing them. Planning to go to Lewisburg next week, and the interesting question is whether there will be more than 1,000 people in attendance. I doubt there were 2,000 at Goodman yesterday. Morning rain may have kept some away, but still a putrid turnout. I'll say this, the guys are still playing with spirit despite the lousy season and I think they sense they are getting better. Now, they have to learn to how to win by playing smarter.

[IslandPard]

Someone on this thread mentioned LC recruiting being a problem. I disagree. LC is as talented AND as deep as they've been in years. Garrett can recruit but he cannot coach his way out of a paper bag. The possibility that we will not win a league championship with this group is troubling and doesn't bode well for the future. Last week's squeaker doesn't give me much hope either. We had EVERYONE back from injuries and still barely pulled it out. Even Stillianos is playing again.

[ngineer]

Someone on this thread mentioned LC recruiting being a problem. I disagree. LC is as talented AND as deep as they've been in years. Garrett can recruit but he cannot coach his way out of a paper bag. The possibility that we will not win a league championship with this group is troubling and doesn't bode well for the future. Last week's squeaker doesn't give me much hope either. We had EVERYONE back from injuries and still barely pulled it out. Even Stillianos is playing again.

You can get away with that at a big FBS school, where you have the luxury of loading up on assistant coaches/associate head coaches and coordinators. But it doesn't work at our level of FCS. One example was Bowden at FSU. I've heard the same about him and others over time. The 'big man' gets 'em n the door and the others coach 'em up and game plan. Not saying Bowden wasn't a good coach earlier in his career, but at that level, once the icon reaches a certain age, he's kept because of what he can draw in the door (both players and $$$).

[Pard4Life]

Someone on this thread mentioned LC recruiting being a problem. I disagree. LC is as talented AND as deep as they've been in years. Garrett can recruit but he cannot coach his way out of a paper bag. The possibility that we will not win a league championship with this group is troubling and doesn't bode well for the future. Last week's squeaker doesn't give me much hope either. We had EVERYONE back from injuries and still barely pulled it out. Even Stillianos is playing again.

I give Garrett two more years... if he has not won anything by then, he probably won't. But I do not know HC and Fordham's depth: I assume they are the only true competition right now. Colgate always seems to be in it though.

[Pard4Life]

We really need our Pard message board.

There's not even a way to message the guy! Even if we start a new board, how can we notify everyone that it exists?

[DFW HOYA]

There's not even a way to message the guy! Even if we start a new board, how can we notify everyone that it exists?

Start here to post a link to the new site, and add one at the Lehigh board. Have to start somewhere.

[Franks Tanks]

Someone on this thread mentioned LC recruiting being a problem. I disagree. LC is as talented AND as deep as they've been in years. Garrett can recruit but he cannot coach his way out of a paper bag. The possibility that we will not win a league championship with this group is troubling and doesn't bode well for the future. Last week's squeaker doesn't give me much hope either. We had EVERYONE back from injuries and still barely pulled it out. Even Stillianos is playing again.

I think Garrett has recruited pretty well, and he has developed players. I see kids improving. I think his recent teams have played hard and fundamentally sound. Even the running game has gotten notably better this year. The issue, I think is his general offensive philosophy/play calling. The offense has been the weak link of the team for years. I think his offense is difficult on the QB and that’s been a continuing issue. We had Shoemaker and the future was bright, but he left. I think Garrett has done a good job with a frosh QB. I do agree that Garrett has underperformed.

[Sader87]

Holy Cross, with scholarships, is going to be the standard bearer as the best program in the PL for football.

It is what it is....Holy Cross struggled in this league without scholarships...different ballgame with schollies.

[IslandPard]

You can get away with that at a big FBS school, where you have the luxury of loading up on assistant coaches/associate head coaches and coordinators. But it doesn't work at our level of FCS. One example was Bowden at FSU. I've heard the same about him and others over time. The 'big man' gets 'em n the door and the others coach 'em up and game plan. Not saying Bowden wasn't a good coach earlier in his career, but at that level, once the icon reaches a certain age, he's kept because of what he can draw in the door (both players and $$$).

Absolutely. Tavani got away with it until Bob Hefner left. I played under both. Tavani had about as much football knowledge as Joe Buck. Hefner knew how to teach the game.

[IslandPard]

There's not even a way to message the guy! Even if we start a new board, how can we notify everyone that it exists?

There is. I have. No response.

[IslandPard]

I think Garrett has recruited pretty well, and he has developed players. I see kids improving. I think his recent teams have played hard and fundamentally sound. Even the running game has gotten notably better this year. The issue, I think is his general offensive philosophy/play calling. The offense has been the weak link of the team for years. I think his offense is difficult on the QB and that’s been a continuing issue. We had Shoemaker and the future was bright, but he left. I think Garrett has done a good job with a frosh QB. I do agree that Garrett has underperformed.

+1! It’s been painfully obvious that he has trouble either being too complicated for most QBs, or he doesn’t have the ability to transfer his knowledge to players. It’s a simple game. Rarely do coaches succeed with scheme alone.

[Doc QB]

Holy Cross, with scholarships, is going to be the standard bearer as the best program in the PL for football. It is what it is....Holy Cross struggled in this league without scholarships...different ballgame with schollies.

While touting the league best record and a FBS win (UConn would be middle of pack CAA team this year), I still dont see HC at the level of talent I saw when LU got smoked by Nova or even Richmond. You guys either played down to LU, or slept walked to a win over them. More talent and better coaching? Hard to argue. But I just dont see Jeff Wileys, Tom Ciaccos, Jerome Fullers, Gil Fenerty, Rob McGovern and Gordie Lockbaums on that roster just yet Sader. Duffner was something like 66-5-1 during his time if I recall (still remember it on my recruiting letter from him he handed me at my school), and I dont see him on that staff either.

[Bogus Megapardus]

There is. I have. No response.

I guess we're going to have to start a new board. It would be a shame to lose all that history. We were easily one of the most colorful FCS boards. Loathed by the administration, blackballed by the coaching staff, cited and quoued by the local papers . . . it was a blast while it lasted.

Maybe I could contact Tapatalk to see if they could help.

[DFW HOYA]

Holy Cross, with scholarships, is going to be the standard bearer as the best program in the PL for football.
It is what it is....Holy Cross struggled in this league without scholarships...different ballgame with schollies.

Holy Cross still hasn't shown the consistency Lehigh had along the lines of Higgins, Lembo, and the first half of Coen's tenure. If Chesney leaves for another offer it's not certain HC can keep up its current level.

[Pards Rule]

Absolutely. Tavani got away with it until Bob Hefner left. I played under both. Tavani had about as much football knowledge as Joe Buck. Hefner knew how to teach the game.

Hefner was great! I didnt play but sat back against coaches box before it was lifted up in 2006 and most of the year the windows were open. Could hear Heffner coaching up during the game as he got on the "phone" with various OLs. He was a huge loss. I know hes got a great thing at Northwestern but has he ever expressed desire to return as HC? Island I presume you played for Hefner? Wasnt he the one who talked Frank out of a 50 yard FG try at Lehigh in 2005 in last minute of game?

[Pards Rule]

I guess we're going to have to start a new board. It would be a shame to lose all that history. We were easily one of the most colorful FCS boards. Loathed by the administration, blackballed by the coaching staff, cited and quoued by the local papers . . . it was a blast while it lasted.

Maybe I could contact Tapatalk to see if they could help.

Great! It really would be a shame to lose the history. Especially the 150 game stuff

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Holy Cross still hasn't shown the consistency Lehigh had along the lines of Higgins, Lembo, and the first half of Coen's tenure. If Chesney leaves for another offer it's not certain HC can keep up its current level.

Just a decade ago Lehigh was in the midst of 3 straight 10 win seasons (something no other PL program has accomplished since 1986) and an 8 win 2013 campaign. They spent numerous weeks ranked and had a Payton Runner-up.

Then there was the 1998-2006 stretch. The Lehigh bar is high. Holy Cross hasn't come close to that type of sustainable success the last 40 years....

[crusader11]

Then there was the 1998-2006 stretch. The Lehigh bar is high. Holy Cross hasn't come close to that type of sustainable success the last 40 years....

I don't think I appreciated just how dominant Lehigh was from 1998-2001 -- those are Mark Duffner type results. It also spanned two coaches (Higgins and Lembo).

This four year stretch was 45-5 with four of those losses coming in the playoffs. PL record during this stretch was 24-1.

[The Boogie Down]

I don't think I appreciated just how dominant Lehigh was from 1998-2001 -- those are Mark Duffner type results. It also spanned two coaches (Higgins and Lembo).

This four year stretch was 45-5 with four of those losses coming in the playoffs. PL record during this stretch was 24-1.

Fordham's 40-10 record (21-3 against the PL) from 2013 to 2016 was pretty solid too.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Fordham's 40-10 record (21-3 against the PL) from 2013 to 2016 was pretty solid too.

It is, but 3 undefeated regular seasons in 4 years? With a 10-1 season sandwiched in between? Think about that?!?! And it's not like Lehigh was playing scrub teams; won at Delaware, went down to South Carolina and beat up on Wofford, good Ivy League teams etc. Colgate was also a very worthy league adversary at that point too....

[The Boogie Down]

It is, but 3 undefeated regular seasons in 4 years? With a 10-1 season sandwiched in between? Think about that?!?! And it's not likely Lehigh was playing scrub teams; won at Delaware, went down to South Carolina and beat up on Wofford, good Ivy League teams etc. Colgate was also a very worthy league adversary at that point too....

Not disagreeing at all. Although, in fairness, I had forgotten how strong Lehigh was from 1998 to 2001 until a few years ago when you reminded me on another thread-lol Either way though, today's HC has a long way to go before matching 1980s HC. Way to go before even matching the previous runs that Lehigh, Colgate and Fordham can all point to respectively.

[crusader11]

Fordham's 40-10 record (21-3 against the PL) from 2013 to 2016 was pretty solid too.

Definitely, but the 2-3 playoff record with both wins against Sacred Heart firmly makes them a tier below that Lehigh run.

[The Boogie Down]

Definitely, but the 2-3 playoff record with both wins against Sacred Heart firmly makes them a tier below that Lehigh run.

Again, not comparing Fordham (2013-2016) with Lehigh (1998-2001). Am saying that the school which has never won any playoff games is a tier below the Lehigh run. A tier below the Fordham run. A tier below the Colgate 2015-2018 run (or even simply their 2002 run) too. Not to mention that same school's own epic run during the 1980s.

[crusader11]

Copy that, Boog. Those were great teams and offenses.

[Lehigh'98]

Definitely, but the 2-3 playoff record with both wins against Sacred Heart firmly makes them a tier below that Lehigh run.

Was somewhat suprised at the time the 2013-14 Fordham teams didn’t make deeper runs in the playoffs. They had great offenses and played some really good ball. They routed an undefeated Lehigh team who beat UNH in the Bronx. Dropped 52 on us. That was the beginning of the end of a solid run for us from 2010-2013.

[Pard4Life]

Enough with this love fest... we had the Frankosaurus stomping around the sidelines. Our 2009 was special and had a true shot at being undefeated in the regular season. Even carney was excited at the possibilities. It's so tough to do. We swept our Ivy schedule (miracle). We lost to Liberty by handful of points because IMO we were way too conservative. Holy Cross with Dominic Randolph was going to be a battle anyhow, but I still insist the refs cost us the game (and the PL later apologized). And the Lehigh game fiasco - which I place all on coaching.

Our 2004-2009 was a great run, but I cannot help but think how much better it could have been... there was a lot of 'boneheaded' stuff that went on. Had we beaten App State in 2005, I think we could have kept going (and we were tied with them late, and had a very key late INT called off - this was before replay - which should have stood).

[IslandPard]

I guess we're going to have to start a new board. It would be a shame to lose all that history. We were easily one of the most colorful FCS boards. Loathed by the administration, blackballed by the coaching staff, cited and quoued by the local papers . . . it was a blast while it lasted.

Maybe I could contact Tapatalk to see if they could help.

I sent him another message but don’t expect to hear back. I say go for it.

[IslandPard]

Hefner was great! I didnt play but sat back against coaches box before it was lifted up in 2006 and most of the year the windows were open. Could hear Heffner coaching up during the game as he got on the "phone" with various OLs. He was a huge loss. I know hes got a great thing at Northwestern but has he ever expressed desire to return as HC? Island I presume you played for Hefner? Wasnt he the one who talked Frank out of a 50 yard FG try at Lehigh in 2005 in last minute of game?

He talked Frank out of A LOT of stuff! I don’t know about the time you mentioned as it was wayyy after me. Tavani was my position “coach” but we watched film with OL. And Hefner ran the meetings 100% of the time. It was Russo’s offense and calls but Hef was the guy.


In his case he has to be making mid 6 figures as a position coach. IMO he didn’t have the shmoozing ability that a HC needs to get in the front door, fund raise,,etc. Nor does he probably care to.

[Pards Rule]

Enough with this love fest... we had the Frankosaurus stomping around the sidelines. Our 2009 was special and had a true shot at being undefeated in the regular season. Even carney was excited at the possibilities. It's so tough to do. We swept our Ivy schedule (miracle). We lost to Liberty by handful of points because IMO we were way too conservative. Holy Cross with Dominic Randolph was going to be a battle anyhow, but I still insist the refs cost us the game (and the PL later apologized). And the Lehigh game fiasco - which I place all on coaching.

Our 2004-2009 was a great run, but I cannot help but think how much better it could have been... there was a lot of 'boneheaded' stuff that went on. Had we beaten App State in 2005, I think we could have kept going (and we were tied with them late, and had a very key late INT called off - this was before replay - which should have stood).

I agree. I have the App State video and I will review it!

[Bogus Megapardus]

I sent him another message but don’t expect to hear back. I say go for it.

I'll do my best. Stay tuned.

[pards123]

Enough with this love fest... we had the Frankosaurus stomping around the sidelines. Our 2009 was special and had a true shot at being undefeated in the regular season. Even carney was excited at the possibilities. It's so tough to do. We swept our Ivy schedule (miracle). We lost to Liberty by handful of points because IMO we were way too conservative. Holy Cross with Dominic Randolph was going to be a battle anyhow, but I still insist the refs cost us the game (and the PL later apologized). And the Lehigh game fiasco - which I place all on coaching.

Our 2004-2009 was a great run, but I cannot help but think how much better it could have been... there was a lot of 'boneheaded' stuff that went on. Had we beaten App State in 2005, I think we could have kept going (and we were tied with them late, and had a very key late INT called off - this was before replay - which should have stood).

That call against Holy Cross was disgusting. Still have the memory ingrained in me of watching the grainy video on that public station our games used to air on.

Mainly just wanted to post as I am mainly a lurker on this board but did post a little on the old Lafayette board. I'm sure there are others like me out there. Would love it if someone started up a new board.

[Sader87]

Seriously, if you're a D1 program, how do you not have a message board? The HC message board, as wacked as it can be, shows that Holy Cross has a legit D1 following....many of the PL boards are as dead as doornails....no one cares.

[crusader11]

What was the reason the Lafayette board is now defunct? I thought that was the second best board in the PL, followed by Crossports (obviously).

[Pards Rule]

What was the reason the Lafayette board is now defunct? I thought that was the second best board in the PL, followed by Crossports (obviously).

Not sure. I went to log in in February of this year and couldnt get in. Did the dude have to pay and decided he didnt want to do that. Well damn we could have taken up a collection and paid for it.

[DFW HOYA]

Seriously, if you're a D1 program, how do you not have a message board? The HC message board, as wacked as it can be, shows that Holy Cross has a legit D1 following....many of the PL boards are as dead as doornails....no one cares.

Bucknell has never had a football message board.

[Edited]

[crusader11]

Bucknell has never had a message board.

Active for men's basketball and not much else: http://boards.basketball-u.com/showforum.php?fid/53/

[CHIP72]

Not sure. I went to log in in February of this year and couldnt get in. Did the dude have to pay and decided he didnt want to do that. Well damn we could have taken up a collection and paid for it.

Very true. Though the numbers are much larger, when the Philadelphia Eagles decided to drop their message board in spring 2020 and migrate everything over to Reddit, one of the message board regulars was able to transfer the board over and started a collection to maintain the "new old" board. He easily got the money needed.

Though I didn't post on the Lafayette board often, I did post there occasionally, especially during football or basketball games I attended* when I could post via Tapatalk.

*Excluding games at Lafayette itself because I ALWAYS get terrible reception there, likely due to some sort of interference.

[pards123]

What was the reason the Lafayette board is now defunct? I thought that was the second best board in the PL, followed by Crossports (obviously).

The admin of the forum posted a message saying he was sick of the negativity and was ending the board. Three days later it was in read-only mode. Real selfish move.

[Pard4Life]

The HC message board, as wacked as it can be, shows that Holy Cross has a legit D1 following....

Ok... but would the board have been Big East-caliber?

[Pard4Life]

What was the reason the Lafayette board is now defunct? I thought that was the second best board in the PL, followed by Crossports (obviously).

Basically what pards123 said... the guy did not like parents posting negative stuff about other players. Ok... so just kick them off and keep the board (????) I also do not understand what makes him think it's his decision. Sure he registered it 14 years ago because we collectively got sick of the spammy and anonymous voy board. The Lafayette board is a public service for all us Pards to enjoy, not a forum subject to his whims.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Basically what pards123 said... the guy did not like parents posting negative stuff about other players. Ok... so just kick them off and keep the board (????) I also do not understand what makes him think it's his decision. Sure he registered it 14 years ago because we collectively got sick of the spammy and anonymous voy board. The Lafayette board is a public service for all us Pards to enjoy, not a forum subject to his whims.

The Lafayette Voy forum actually still exists. It's nothing but spam, of course. But it's there!

I've joined the Tapatalk admin forum and I'm doing my best. I'll let everyone know.

[The Boogie Down]

The Lafayette Voy forum actually still exists. It's nothing but spam, of course. But it's there!

I've joined the Tapatalk admin forum and I'm doing my best. I'll let everyone know.

Didn't "Carney2" (possibly one or even two other names we'd know here) get banned from the last Lafayette forum before it shut down? If I remember correctly, he said something here about the "smart commenters" having moved on, while only the program's apologists had remained.

[Pard4Life]

Didn't "Carney2" (possibly one or even two other names we'd know here) get banned from the last Lafayette forum before it shut down? If I remember correctly, he said something here about the "smart commenters" having moved on, while only the program's apologists had remained.

I don't think so... but I don't know... if that's the case, carney would have been banned years ago :D

[Pard4Life]

The Lafayette Voy forum actually still exists. It's nothing but spam, of course. But it's there!

I've joined the Tapatalk admin forum and I'm doing my best. I'll let everyone know.

Wow it is... even the spammy threads seem to be sporadic now... maybe we can reboot it??

I checked the last archived page and found this cryptic comment, assuming that the 'moderator' is in fact our tapatalk admin friend:

Many posters are now using a new Message Board
www.lafayettesports.myfreeforum.org (http://www.lafayettesports.myfreeforum.org)
BTW: contrary to rumor, I am not a Lehigh Grad!

... maybe he IS a Lehigh grad... he could have been a Lehigh sleeper agent. It makes sense: Lehigh is at the nadir of their program, weeks from being embarrassed by Lafayette, and the board is locked down. This timeline also seems to correspond to LFN's disappearance... maybe our admin was LFN??

[IslandPard]

Wow it is... even the spammy threads seem to be sporadic now... maybe we can reboot it??

I checked the last archived page and found this cryptic comment, assuming that the 'moderator' is in fact our tapatalk admin friend:

Many posters are now using a new Message Board
www.lafayettesports.myfreeforum.org (http://www.lafayettesports.myfreeforum.org)
BTW: contrary to rumor, I am not a Lehigh Grad!

... maybe he IS a Lehigh grad... he could have been a Lehigh sleeper agent. It makes sense: Lehigh is at the nadir of their program, weeks from being embarrassed by Lafayette, and the board is locked down. This timeline also seems to correspond to LFN's disappearance... maybe our admin was LFN??

No, he’s definitely a Laf grad. Bleeds Maroon. Good dude…but shutting it down without offering to pass the baton was a selfish move.

I love our coverage of games. Mike Joseph is THE best commentator of FCS games.

https://youtu.be/L5R_rQLghYo

He’s right…We are better at almost every position. Which is his roundabout way off saying Garrett better get his s**t together. No slow starts today. Foot on the gas pedal from opening kickoff!!!!

[crusader11]

He’s right…We are better at almost every position.

Yeah, I'm not buying that.

[Pard4Life]

Yeah, I'm not buying that.

Maybe it will be your only option today at 330PM...

[IslandPard]

Maybe it will be your only option today at 330PM...

Smack!!! Love it!