AGS Poll Results - Week 5 - 2021

[AGSPoll]

10/4/2021


Rank
Team:
Total Points
First Place Votes


1
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
1305
35


2
Sam Houston Bearkats
1260
15


3
James Madison Dukes
1219
3


4
North Dakota State Bison
1147



5
Eastern Washington Eagles
1132



6
UC Davis Aggies
1007



7
Southern Illinois Salukis
969



8
Montana Grizzlies
963



9
Montana State Bobcats
857



10
Northern Iowa Panthers
787



11
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
750



12
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
691



13
Missouri State Bears
685



14
Villanova Wildcats
675



15
East Tennessee State Buccaneers
622



16
Southeastern Louisiana Lions
601



17
Weber State Wildcats
407



18
Incarnate Word Cardinals
372



19
Rhode Island Rams
306



20
Central Arkansas Bears
169



21
Kennesaw State Owls
157



22
Princeton Tigers
152



23
South Dakota Coyotes
144



24
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
140



25
Nicholls Colonels
113
















ORV:




26
Harvard Crimson
88



27
Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
75



28
Duquesne Dukes
74



29
Mercer Bears
63



30
Monmouth Hawks
55



31
Virginia Military Institute Keydets
52



32
New Hampshire Wildcats
43



33T
Chattanooga Mocs
32



33T
Dartmouth Big Green
32



35
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
13



36T
Murray State Racers
12



36T
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
12



38
William & Mary Tribe
11



39T
Austin Peay Governors
7



39T
North Carolina A&T Aggies
7
















Most Significant Win:
Eastern Washington Eagles





Most Significant Loss:
Richmond Spiders

[dewey]

Here is my top 25. Criticize as needed.

Your vote is listed below.


1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
3: James Madison Dukes
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Southern Illinois Salukis
7: UC Davis Aggies
8: Montana Grizzlies
9: Montana State Bobcats
10: Missouri State Bears
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: Northern Iowa Panthers
13: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
14: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
15: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
16: South Dakota Coyotes
17: Central Arkansas Bears
18: Villanova Wildcats
19: Incarnate Word Cardinals
20: Weber State Wildcats
21: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
22: Duquesne Dukes
23: Kennesaw State Owls
24: Nicholls Colonels
25: Rhode Island Rams

dewey

The Most Significant Win: Eastern Washington Eagles
The Most Significant Loss: Richmond Spiders
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

Dewey

[dewey]

Jacksonville State still receiving votes? Southerner is going to lose his mind.

Dewey

[Professor Chaos]

Here's the poll article for this week: http://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-5-top-25-results-3/

Pretty boring week again. The MVFC and Big Sky are still dominating the top of the poll with 10 of the top 13 teams. Add in the CAA and it's 13 of the top 14 from those three conferences. That top half of the poll is going to have to blow up one of these weeks.

[Professor Chaos]

This is what I had this week:

1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Sam Houston Bearkats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: UC Davis Aggies
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Montana Grizzlies
8: Southern Illinois Salukis
9: Northern Iowa Panthers
10: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
11: Montana State Bobcats
12: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
15: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
16: Missouri State Bears
17: Weber State Wildcats
18: Incarnate Word Cardinals
19: Kennesaw State Owls
20: Harvard Crimson
21: Duquesne Dukes
22: UT Martin Skyhawks
23: Rhode Island Rams
24: Princeton Tigers
25: South Dakota Coyotes

[Chalupa Batman]

Jacksonville State still receiving votes? Southerner is going to lose his mind.

Dewey

1st thing I looked for lol.

They’re still ranked in both the coaches poll and STATS poll. [emoji2357]

[Chalupa Batman]

Here’s my take.

1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Sam Houston Bearkats
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Southern Illinois Salukis
6: North Dakota State Bison
7: Montana Grizzlies
8: UC Davis Aggies
9: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
10: Villanova Wildcats
11: Montana State Bobcats
12: Northern Iowa Panthers
13: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
14: Missouri State Bears
15: Nicholls Colonels
16: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
17: Incarnate Word Cardinals
18: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
19: Princeton Tigers
20: Weber State Wildcats
21: South Dakota Coyotes
22: Harvard Crimson
23: Mercer Bears
24: Chattanooga Mocs
25: Duquesne Dukes

The Most Significant Win: Harvard Crimson
The Most Significant Loss: Richmond Spiders
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[Daytripper]

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
3: James Madison Dukes
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: UC Davis Aggies
7: Southern Illinois Salukis
8: Montana Grizzlies
9: Missouri State Bears
10: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
11: Northern Iowa Panthers
12: Montana State Bobcats
13: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
14: Villanova Wildcats
15: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
16: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
17: Weber State Wildcats
18: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
19: Nicholls Colonels
20: Rhode Island Rams
21: Incarnate Word Cardinals
22: Princeton Tigers
23: Central Arkansas Bears
24: New Hampshire Wildcats
25: South Dakota Coyotes

[BigBlueMU]

Can someone please explain the love here for Kennesaw? They beat a garbage JSU team and they are ranked? I know Monmouth has some work to do and deserve to be in the 25-30 range, but no way should KSU be ahead of Monmouth.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
3: North Dakota State Bison
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: James Madison Dukes
6: Montana Grizzlies
7: Southern Illinois Salukis
8: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
9: Villanova Wildcats
10: UC Davis Aggies
11: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
12: Northern Iowa Panthers
13: Missouri State Bears
14: Montana State Bobcats
15: Princeton Tigers
16: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
17: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
18: Central Arkansas Bears
19: Rhode Island Rams
20: Duquesne Dukes
21: Incarnate Word Cardinals
22: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
23: South Dakota Coyotes
24: Dartmouth Big Green
25: Kennesaw State Owls

The Most Significant Win: North Dakota State Bison
The Most Significant Loss: Richmond Spiders
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Patriot League

[Bison56]

Can someone please explain the love here for Kennesaw? They beat a garbage JSU team and they are ranked? I know Monmouth has some work to do and deserve to be in the 25-30 range, but no way should KSU be ahead of Monmouth.

Hootyhoo constant rambling convinced everyone they are good.

[Hambone]

Hello Hambone,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 10/4/2021 6:55:07

Your vote is listed below.


1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Sam Houston Bearkats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: UC Davis Aggies
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Southern Illinois Salukis
8: Montana Grizzlies
9: Montana State Bobcats
10: Northern Iowa Panthers
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
13: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
14: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
15: Villanova Wildcats
16: Missouri State Bears
17: Incarnate Word Cardinals
18: Kennesaw State Owls
19: Weber State Wildcats
20: South Dakota Coyotes
21: Princeton Tigers
22: Rhode Island Rams
23: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
24: Duquesne Dukes
25: Nicholls Colonels

Hambone

The Most Significant Win: Kennesaw State Owls
The Most Significant Loss: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

I've got Harvard, Mercer, Tenn-Martin and Chatty on the cusp that I'm keeping my eye on moreso than others.

[Daytripper]

Surprised SFA isn't getting more love. One point loss to Sammy, six point loss to Texas Tech. That's it. Granted, they don't have any notable wins, but they still beat who they were supposed to.

[dewey]

Surprised SFA isn't getting more love. One point loss to Sammy, six point loss to Texas Tech. That's it. Granted, they don't have any notable wins, but they still beat who they were supposed to.

I think a big asterisk to that 1 point loss to Sammy is no Eric Schmidt (spelling).

Dewe

[Professor Chaos]

Can someone please explain the love here for Kennesaw? They beat a garbage JSU team and they are ranked? I know Monmouth has some work to do and deserve to be in the 25-30 range, but no way should KSU be ahead of Monmouth.
The impressiveness of their win over JSU mattered to me. JSU obviously isn't great but I still have enough respect for them to be impressed by how thoroughly KSU beat them. UT Martin beat JSU by 3 a week ago and have parlayed that into a top 25 ranking as well with even less backing it up. I also gave KSU credit for a thorough beating of a Wofford team that has hung tough with VMI and ETSU the last two weeks.

[Katfan]

I think a big asterisk to that 1 point loss to Sammy is no Eric Schmidt (spelling).

Dewe
Remove the t and you have it Schmid

[dewey]

Remove the t and you have it Schmid

Gotcha! Thanks! Schmid was Southland player of the year last spring, right? Not having him for that game is huge.

Dewey

[MUHAWKS]

Can someone please explain the love here for Kennesaw? They beat a garbage JSU team and they are ranked? I know Monmouth has some work to do and deserve to be in the 25-30 range, but no way should KSU be ahead of Monmouth.


I am as big a MU homer as they come and I do not really have an issue with it. Yes we have been told by many here that last uear, the year before etc etc ALL COUNT in the benefit of the doubt department and the opposite of that- so in that regard I do not understand Kennesaw based on both 2019 and the Spring season however, Wofford just played the # 15 team tough and KSU beat them handily. The JSU hate here is half tongue in cheek, and if it isn't it should be, they may underachieve but you beat an ACC team and have a couple other close games with good teams and an FBs loss, you do not suck. And KSU smoked them. If we had the exact resume that Ksu did this year we would be ranked like 10th so I am ok with it and frankly they may be better than we all think.. Only helps us if we even get to that game having it matter the higher they are,,

[dewey]

I am as big a MU homer as they come and I do not really have an issue with it. Yes we have been told by many here that last uear, the year before etc etc ALL COUNT in the benefit of the doubt department and the opposite of that- so in that regard I do not understand Kennesaw based on both 2019 and the Spring season however, Wofford just played the # 15 team tough and KSU beat them handily. The JSU hate here is half tongue in cheek, and if it isn't it should be, they may underachieve but you beat an ACC team and have a couple other close games with good teams and an FBs loss, you do not suck. And KSU smoked them. If we had the exact resume that Ksu did this year we would be ranked like 10th so I am ok with it and frankly they may be better than we all think.. Only helps us if we even get to that game having it matter the higher they are,,

Agreed. Plus Holy Cross beat Monmouth badly a few weeks ago (45-15). If Monmouth beats HC I probably have MU ahead of KSU based on the results from the spring.

Dewey

[Preferred Walk-On]

Can someone please explain the love here for Kennesaw? They beat a garbage JSU team and they are ranked? I know Monmouth has some work to do and deserve to be in the 25-30 range, but no way should KSU be ahead of Monmouth.

I can't.

[caribbeanhen]

Here's the poll article for this week: http://thefcswedge.com/ags-poll/ags-poll-week-5-top-25-results-3/

Pretty boring week again. The MVFC and Big Sky are still dominating the top of the poll with 10 of the top 13 teams. Add in the CAA and it's 13 of the top 14 from those three conferences. That top half of the poll is going to have to blow up one of these weeks.

I think UC Davis might be overrated some. I like them and have them ranked high but they will probably take a hit in coming weeks ... just a hunch

[HootyHoo]

Hootyhoo constant rambling convinced everyone they are good.

My work here is done. xlolx

[Professor Chaos]

I think UC Davis might be overrated some. I like them and have them ranked high but they will probably take a hit in coming weeks ... just a hunch
Idk... have you seen their remaining schedule?

@ Idaho St
vs Northern Colorado
@ Cal Poly
@ Northern Arizona
vs EWU
vs Sac St

I'd think they'll win the next 3 in their sleep but maybe those last week 3, especially EWU, could trip them up.

[caribbeanhen]

Agreed. Plus Holy Cross beat Monmouth badly a few weeks ago (45-15). If Monmouth beats HC I probably have MU ahead of KSU based on the results from the spring.

Dewey

Be sure to check in on Princeton Monmouth game this Saturday, it’s put up or shut up time for those that are voting for Ivy League teams

[MUHAWKS]

I think KSU is simple- They clearly have VERY good athletes and players although frankly I still do not understand how they recruit WR's..anyway, If you cannot figure out how to defend the triple option AND/OR do not have an offense that is going to score 75% of their drives and not turn the ball over, KSU is pretty freaking good. KSU on the right day can play with and beat anyone in FCS for the above stated reasons. Conversely, if a team gets a 2 score lead on them and can make a couple stops it outs enormous pressure on them and most likely they will not be able to get back in game. Frankly, with Monmouth's blueprint the last 2 years I am surprised they are still able to run this offense and succeed but to some extent they were "perfect storm" games..

[caribbeanhen]

Idk... have you seen their remaining schedule?

@ Idaho St
vs Northern Colorado
@ Cal Poly
@ Northern Arizona
vs EWU
vs Sac St

I'd think they'll win the next 3 in their sleep but maybe those last week 3, especially EWU, could trip them up.

Oh I missed the three week cupcake diet which will cause them to crash when they get off the sugar.

[MUHAWKS]

Be sure to check in on Princeton Monmouth game this Saturday, it’s put up or shut up time for those that are voting for Ivy League teams

It is also put up or shut up time for Monmouth ironically. HUGE GAME for us, them- The feeling around MU was that it was just a perfect storm against HC, we came out flatter than ever and they played great, we got out coached, out played and were over confident. Taking nothing away from HC we just do not think that would happen again. With that said we need to beat Princeton to sort of validate that thought and our two blowout wins over decent conference foes.

[Chalupa Batman]

I think UC Davis might be overrated some. I like them and have them ranked high but they will probably take a hit in coming weeks ... just a hunch

If Rodrigues can come back they're ranked about right. If he's out for awhile than you may be right.

Anyone know when the Aggies expect him back?

[HootyHoo]

Much better poll this week. A tip of the cap to the voters. I agree with everything. As far as the Monmouth discussion goes, the Holy Cross game hurts them in the polls. However, I do admit that they are the team to beat in the Big South. The good news is KSU has drastically improved their ability to tackle in space, which has been our undoing vs Monmouth the previous two games.

[MSUBobcat]

Jacksonville State still receiving votes? Southerner is going to lose his mind.

Dewey

Starting to think people are burning that 25th spot on JSU just to see if they can hear his head explode from another state.

[POD Knows]

1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Sam Houston Bearkats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Montana Grizzlies
6: Southern Illinois Salukis
7: North Dakota State Bison
8: Montana State Bobcats
9: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
10: Northern Iowa Panthers
11: UC Davis Aggies
12: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Missouri State Bears
15: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
16: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
17: Central Arkansas Bears
18: South Dakota Coyotes
19: Rhode Island Rams
20: Monmouth Hawks
21: Kennesaw State Owls
22: Duquesne Dukes
23: Princeton Tigers
24: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
25: Harvard Crimson

[clenz]

Hootyhoo constant rambling convinced everyone they are good.
If politics the last 6 years, more than ever before, taught us anything it's that if you scream loud enough long enough you'll get enough people to believe you to make a difference in how things play out.xlolx

[clenz]

Idk... have you seen their remaining schedule?

@ Idaho St
vs Northern Colorado
@ Cal Poly
@ Northern Arizona
vs EWU
vs Sac St

I'd think they'll win the next 3 in their sleep but maybe those last week 3, especially EWU, could trip them up.
I look at schedules like that and wheep

He is UNI's next 4


@ #4 NDSU on their homecoming
v #23 South Dakota
@ #1 SDSU on their homecoming
v #7 SIU

Then November is
@ Illinois State
@ 13 Missouri State
v WIU


Can UNI and UCD switch?

[MTfan4life]

Here is my top 25. Criticize as needed.

Your vote is listed below.


1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
3: James Madison Dukes
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Southern Illinois Salukis
7: UC Davis Aggies
8: Montana Grizzlies
9: Montana State Bobcats
10: Missouri State Bears
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: Northern Iowa Panthers
13: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
14: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
15: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
16: South Dakota Coyotes
17: Central Arkansas Bears
18: Villanova Wildcats
19: Incarnate Word Cardinals
20: Weber State Wildcats
21: Virginia Military Institute Keydets
22: Duquesne Dukes
23: Kennesaw State Owls
24: Nicholls Colonels
25: Rhode Island Rams

dewey

The Most Significant Win: Eastern Washington Eagles
The Most Significant Loss: Richmond Spiders
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

Dewey

Replace VMI, who got roughed up by The Citadel, with Mercer, whose only loss is to Alabama. Otherwise this is a solid poll. Mercer looks good right now led by a running back who reminds me of Tim Flanders.

[MSUBobcat]

Can someone please explain the love here for Kennesaw? They beat a garbage JSU team and they are ranked? I know Monmouth has some work to do and deserve to be in the 25-30 range, but no way should KSU be ahead of Monmouth.

I guess I'm not seeing why Monmouth should be above KSU. What is their signature victory to date? To me, getting boat raced at home by HC is why you're #30. FWIW (transitive property and all), Duquesne (#28) went on the road and whipped Merrimack, who handled Holy Cross at their place. So, Duquense>>>MC>>HC>>>MU, yet there's only a 2 spot difference in ranking? Either the Dukes are too low, or MU is too high, based on results so far. This weekend could prove that MU needs to rise, or fall out of ORV altogether.

[MSUBobcat]

If Rodrigues can come back they're ranked about right. If he's out for awhile than you may be right.

Anyone know when the Aggies expect him back?

In the Big Sky prediction thread, a Davis fan said Rodrigues was medically cleared to play but Hawkins erred on the side of caution and gave him another week. Good on Hawkins looking out for the long term best interest of his players, IMO.

[Preferred Walk-On]

Replace VMI, who got roughed up by The Citadel, with Mercer, whose only loss is to Alabama. Otherwise this is a solid poll. Mercer looks good right now led by a running back who reminds me of Tim Flanders.

Looking at my poll below, I think I agree with MTfan4life on Mercer, and I may have missed on Tennessee-Martin (although not sure yet). I have perhaps a bit too much on the moral victory side of things (Chattanooga, Central Arkansas, and Stephen F. Austin), and I will recalibrate as needed this upcoming week. Luckily, all of these are 18 or lower, so...

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Hello Preferred Walk-On,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 10/3/2021 11:41:59

Your vote is listed below.

1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Sam Houston Bearkats
3: North Dakota State Bison
4: James Madison Dukes
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Montana Grizzlies
7: Southern Illinois Salukis
8: Montana State Bobcats
9: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
10: UC Davis Aggies
11: Northern Iowa Panthers
12: Weber State Wildcats
13: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
14: Villanova Wildcats
15: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
16: Missouri State Bears
17: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
18: Chattanooga Mocs
19: Central Arkansas Bears
20: South Dakota Coyotes
21: Princeton Tigers
22: Nicholls Colonels
23: Duquesne Dukes
24: Harvard Crimson
25: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks

Preferred Walk-On

The Most Significant Win: Harvard Crimson
The Most Significant Loss: Richmond Spiders
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[Katfan]

Gotcha! Thanks! Schmid was Southland player of the year last spring, right? Not having him for that game is huge.

Dewey
He was and yes it made a huge difference imho! I was impressed with Shoemaker but he doesn’t have quite the arm or the speed of Eric. SFA was able to unleash the rush to rattle the rookie but he stood tall and made plays. Also not having our kicker was big.

[caribbeanhen]

Hello Caribbeanhen ,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 10/3/2021 5:45:24

Your vote is listed below.


1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Sam Houston Bearkats
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: James Madison Dukes
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: Montana Grizzlies
7: UC Davis Aggies
8: Southern Illinois Salukis
9: Montana State Bobcats
10: Northern Iowa Panthers
11: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
12: Villanova Wildcats
13: Missouri State Bears
14: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
15: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
16: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
17: Incarnate Word Cardinals
18: Weber State Wildcats
19: Harvard Crimson
20: South Dakota Coyotes
21: Rhode Island Rams
22: Dartmouth Big Green
23: Mercer Bears
24: Duquesne Dukes
25: Central Arkansas Bears

[BlueGoldAg]

If Rodrigues can come back they're ranked about right. If he's out for awhile than you may be right.

Anyone know when the Aggies expect him back?

Coach Hawkins had indicated that Rodrigues was practicing last week and he was dressed for the Idaho game but didn't play. So no one knows for sure if he will play at Idaho State. The Aggies are being extra cautious with him as they should for any head injury.

The Ags started a true Fr QB, Miles Hastings, against the Vandals and he played pretty well for his first ever start but the offense was inconsistent. RFr QB, Trent Tompkins, who is a dual threat QB, took over in the final minute of the 3rd quarter and lit a spark in the team and shifted the momentum of the game with his ability to scramble and break tackles. It was the turning point in the game. Tompkins has been nicknamed "Magic" because of his heroics in the spring due his ability to make big, game changing plays. The knock on him seems to be his unorthodox style of passing where he doesn't use the seams of the ball and throws wearing gloves. The fans and the team love his competitiveness and his exciting style of play though.

Give credit to Idaho though. They have some excellent talent on their team. They were a bit of an unknown coming into this game since they had 2 FBS loses and a DII blowout. They also had 2 weeks to prepare for the Aggies and they came into the game inspired and ready to play. This was a tough game for the Aggies but they were resilient and came up with some big plays when they really needed them. It wasn't our sharpest game but they found a way to win.

[WestCoastAggie]

My work here is done. xlolx

I can't wait until 10/16.

[MSUBobcat]

Coach Hawkins had indicated that Rodrigues was practicing last week and he was dressed for the Idaho game but didn't play. So no one knows for sure if he will play at Northern Colorado. The Aggies are being extra cautious with him as they should for any head injury.

The Ags started a true Fr QB, Miles Hastings, against the Vandals and he played pretty well for his first ever start but the offense was inconsistent. RFr QB, Trent Tompkins, who is a dual threat QB, took over in the final minute of the 3rd quarter and lit a spark in the team and shifted the momentum of the game with his ability to scramble and break tackles. It was the turning point in the game. Tompkins has been nicknamed "Magic" because of his heroics in the spring due his ability to make big, game changing plays. The knock on him seems to be his unorthodox style of passing where he doesn't use the seams of the ball and throws wearing gloves. The fans and the team love his competitiveness and his exciting style of play though.

Give credit to Idaho though. They have some excellent talent on their team. They were a bit of an unknown coming into this game since they had 2 FBS loses and a DII blowout. They also had 2 weeks to prepare for the Aggies and they came into the game inspired and ready to play. This was a tough game for the Aggies but they were resilient and came up with some big plays when they really needed them. It wasn't our sharpest game but they found a way to win.

At Idaho State, you mean. Playing in that quonset can be challenging, but I would think Davis has the ponies to beat the Bengals without him if they still want to play it safe.

[HootyHoo]

I can't wait until 10/16.

It's going to be a good matchup.

[atthewbon]

Here is mine. Looking at it now I probably shouldn’t have had UT Martin as high as 19 but there are so many close teams after about 16 it’s tough to rank them.

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
3: James Madison Dukes
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Southern Illinois Salukis
7: Montana Grizzlies
8: UC Davis Aggies
9: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
10: Montana State Bobcats
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: Northern Iowa Panthers
13: Missouri State Bears
14: Villanova Wildcats
15: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
16: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
17: Weber State Wildcats
18: Rhode Island Rams
19: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
20: Central Arkansas Bears
21: South Dakota Coyotes
22: Kennesaw State Owls
23: Incarnate Word Cardinals
24: Duquesne Dukes
25: Harvard Crimson

[atthewbon]

I don’t really understand how Nicholls is ranked. Yea their two losses are to fbs teams but they have yet to have a quality win and are 2-2. If they beat SELA next week then I’d rank them but I’m not really sure what they have done to deserve it now. I also thought they were a bit over ranked in the spring season last year.

[JSUSoutherner]

You know what I think is interesting.

Whoever is voting for JSU isn't posting their poll because they know they will catch hell from not just me, but everyone.

So to you closeted JSU voters I have but one request:

USE YOUR BRAIN.

[katss07]

JMU would lose to anyone ranked 4-9

[BlueGoldAg]

At Idaho State, you mean. Playing in that quonset can be challenging, but I would think Davis has the ponies to beat the Bengals without him if they still want to play it safe.

Oops...yes, Idaho State. I'll edit my previous post. Thanks. I think the game at Idaho State will be a challenging game as well. That's indoor stadium is an odd place to play...

[kdinva]

1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: James Madison Dukes
3: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Montana State Bobcats
7: Montana Grizzlies
8: UC Davis Aggies
9: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
10: Southern Illinois Salukis
11: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
12: Northern Iowa Panthers
13: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
14: Missouri State Bears
15: Villanova Wildcats
16: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
17: Incarnate Word Cardinals
18: Princeton Tigers
19: Rhode Island Rams
20: Monmouth Hawks
21: Kennesaw State Owls
22: South Dakota Coyotes
23: Chattanooga Mocs
24: Weber State Wildcats
25: Mercer Bears


The Most Significant Win: Eastern Washington Eagles
The Most Significant Loss: Richmond Spiders

[Professor Chaos]

I look at schedules like that and wheep

He is UNI's next 4


@ #4 NDSU on their homecoming
v #23 South Dakota
@ #1 SDSU on their homecoming
v #7 SIU

Then November is
@ Illinois State
@ 13 Missouri State
v WIU


Can UNI and UCD switch?
Yikes... the silver lining is the rest of the MVFC teams will be going through the same ringer for the most part. Missouri St has a stretch from weeks 8-11 where they go @NDSU, vs UND, @SIU, vs UNI.

With the unbalanced Big Sky schedule UCD misses Montana, Montana St, Portland St, and SUU while EWU misses Cal Poly, Idaho St, NAU, and Sac St. Before the big matchup between UCD and EWU on 11/13 UCD gets Cal Poly and NAU the previous two games whereas EWU gets Weber St and Montana St.

[MSUWineGuy]

I look at schedules like that and wheep

He is UNI's next 4


@ #4 NDSU on their homecoming
v #23 South Dakota
@ #1 SDSU on their homecoming
v #7 SIU

Then November is
@ Illinois State
@ 13 Missouri State
v WIU


Can UNI and UCD switch?

This conference is comical right now. Unbelievable 4 game stretch for you guys.

[F'N Hawks]

UND runs that exact same stretch of teams (at USD, SIU, MSU and SDSU). Going to be interesting to see if they can hold up.

[dewey]

Starting to think people are burning that 25th spot on JSU just to see if they can hear his head explode from another state.

LOL! I won't lie that did cross my mind but I was truly afraid Southerner would find me and have terse words for me.

Dewey

[clenz]

Yikes... the silver lining is the rest of the MVFC teams will be going through the same ringer for the most part. Missouri St has a stretch from weeks 8-11 where they go @NDSU, vs UND, @SIU, vs UNI.

With the unbalanced Big Sky schedule UCD misses Montana, Montana St, Portland St, and SUU while EWU misses Cal Poly, Idaho St, NAU, and Sac St. Before the big matchup between UCD and EWU on 11/13 UCD gets Cal Poly and NAU the previous two games whereas EWU gets Weber St and Montana St.
Yeah it's insane across the board. We follow tha tup with Missouri State 2 weeks after SIU. Thankfully we get WIU and ISUr rather than UND? Though given how WIU is playing is that really that big of a SoS win?

It's only going to get worse if/when Murray comes in and divisions are created because I can 99.99999% promise you the divisions will be

UND
NDSU
SDSU
UND
MOSU
UNI
------
WIU
ISUR
SIU
MUSU
ISUB
YSU

[MSUBobcat]

I know it's not quite the gauntlet that UNI faces (and others in the MVFC), especially with the Grills dropping both games at home against their ranked opponents of JMU and UC-Davis, but may I submit Montana State's last 5 weeks of the regular season:
@ #17 Weber State
vs ISU-o
@ #5 EWU
vs Idaho
@ #8 UM - Brawl of the Wild

That unbalanced schedule bit us in the ass this year, getting 3 of the best teams all on the road, all in the last half of the year. If we go 3-2, that's a pretty decent accomplishment. Our road to the Big Sky auto-bid is filled with potholes, speed traps and spike strips.

[SDFS]

Yeah it's insane across the board. We follow tha tup with Missouri State 2 weeks after SIU. Thankfully we get WIU and ISUr rather than UND? Though given how WIU is playing is that really that big of a SoS win?

It's only going to get worse if/when Murray comes in and divisions are created because I can 99.99999% promise you the divisions will be

UND
NDSU
SDSU
UND
MOSU
UNI
------
WIU
ISUR
SIU
MUSU
ISUB
YSU

I was thinking it would look like this:
North
UND
NDSU
SDSU
UND
UNI
WIU
------
South
MOSU
ISUR
SIU
MUSU
ISUB
YSU

When they go to Divisions like that, should the MVFC look to form Divisions as stand alone 6 team conferences. This would allow teams to schedule more nonconference games and not require crossover games. Any crossover games would not be counted as a "Conference" game and that would let the MVFC - North go beat up on :p the OVC (5) /WAC (7)/ASun (6)/Southland (7)/Pioneer .

[caribbeanhen]

The flip side of MVFC sked would be Sam Houston’s remaining sked

Pretty slack

[NY Crusader 2010]

1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Sam Houston Bearkats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: Eastern Washington Eagles
5: Montana Grizzlies
6: Southern Illinois Salukis
7: North Dakota State Bison
8: Montana State Bobcats
9: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
10: Northern Iowa Panthers
11: UC Davis Aggies
12: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Missouri State Bears
15: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
16: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
17: Central Arkansas Bears
18: South Dakota Coyotes
19: Rhode Island Rams
20: Monmouth Hawks
21: Kennesaw State Owls
22: Duquesne Dukes
23: Princeton Tigers
24: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
25: Harvard Crimson

Monmouth ahead of Harvard. The Crimson would beat them by 60.

[POD Knows]

Monmouth ahead of Harvard. The Crimson would beat them by 60.
Agree. I ****ed up. But I am operating without my data and a POS iPhone 7 with a tiny screen. The rest of my poll is balls on. Maybe.

[McCowboys]

Your vote is listed below.


1: Sam Houston Bearkats
2: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
3: James Madison Dukes
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Eastern Washington Eagles
6: Southern Illinois Salukis
7: UC Davis Aggies
8: Montana Grizzlies
9: Montana State Bobcats
10: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
11: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
12: Northern Iowa Panthers
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Missouri State Bears
15: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
16: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
17: Weber State Wildcats
18: Incarnate Word Cardinals
19: Central Arkansas Bears
20: Nicholls Colonels
21: South Dakota Coyotes
22: Rhode Island Rams
23: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
24: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
25: Dartmouth Big Green

McCowboys

The Most Significant Win: Southern Illinois Salukis
The Most Significant Loss: Holy Cross Crusaders
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Southland Conference

[NY Crusader 2010]

Be sure to check in on Princeton Monmouth game this Saturday, it’s put up or shut up time for those that are voting for Ivy League teams

Princeton beat Monmouth by 6 TD last meeting, and it was a MU team that made the playoffs. Monmouth should be fired up for this one.

Wake me up when Princeton schedules Delaware or Villanova.

[MUHAWKS]

Monmouth ahead of Harvard. The Crimson would beat them by 60.

by 60!! something they did not even come close to doing to lowly G'town and Brown. I get that you may be exaggerating but one thing we know this year is that comparative scores mean very little. You got us good, fair and square but it was just a perfect storm. Monmouth is much better than what was shown against HC it's like I was not even watching Monmouth. No excuses, ***** happens but I just do not think seeing a team once can give you a great idea of who they are. People will either over rate or under rate.

And this goes back to my gripe from last 2 years about people ranking teams based on the previous year or two- Monmouth gets a bit of the benefit of the doubt (within reason) based on last years performance against the National Champs. Okay we got blown out in our FBS (although it was a 2 score game with 10 left in the game and we had the ball), we "escape" Fordham and get beat up by you guys, but if you want to compare scores look what we did to Charleston Southern and Gardner Webb. Charleston Southern lost to FBS E. Carolina by 3 and had the ball at midfield as time ran out. East Carolina almost beat South Carolina. We beat Gardner Webb worse than HC beat us and Gardner Webb gave Georgia Southern all they could handle. Would you say Harvard or even you guys would beat East Carolina or lose by 3? Would you and them play within 1 score of Georgia Southern? Maybe. It could happen, but comparing scores does not mean anything most of the time, if it did that is like saying Monmouth would beat East Carolina by 3 scores since East Carolina barely held on to beat Charleston Southern, a team we beat by 30 with backups playing half the game. I have no beef, I like Holy Cross and the coach but we could do this all night long. Now maybe I am wrong and you just think Harvard is THAT good, but I promise the Monmouth team you beat will never be seen again this year not even close. It was a 500 yr flood, perfect storm, lightning strike type game and too much should not be made of it or any "1" game..

[MUHAWKS]

Princeton beat Monmouth by 6 TD last meeting, and it was a MU team that made the playoffs. Monmouth should be fired up for this one.

Wake me up when Princeton schedules Delaware or Villanova.

Not true. Yes they smoked us by 42 BUT we did not go to the playoffs that year and deservedly so. That year we also lost to Kennesaw by 37.

[Katfan]

JMU would lose to anyone ranked 4-9
Seriously, I don’t think so. Troll bait!

[SpreadTheWord]

Hello SpreadTheWord,

We have received your AGS Top 25 vote on 10/3/2021 11:58:29

Your vote is listed below.


1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Sam Houston Bearkats
3: James Madison Dukes
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Southern Illinois Salukis
6: UC Davis Aggies
7: Eastern Washington Eagles
8: Montana Grizzlies
9: Montana State Bobcats
10: Northern Iowa Panthers
11: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
12: Missouri State Bears
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Weber State Wildcats
15: South Dakota Coyotes
16: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
17: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
18: Nicholls Colonels
19: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
20: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
21: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
22: Central Arkansas Bears
23: Incarnate Word Cardinals
24: Princeton Tigers
25: Mercer Bears

SpreadTheWord

The Most Significant Win: Eastern Washington Eagles
The Most Significant Loss: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Southland Conference

[MUHAWKS]

Also, just to make another point about comparing scores and what not- Holy Cross beats yale on a last minute FG. Yale only beats freaking Cornell by 6! Cornell lost to Bucknell by 2 scores! Bucknell got shutout in a 2 score loss to Sacred Heart! Sacred Heart lost to Howard!

Long season, and sometimes weird stuff happens. Monmouth has a chance to erase the HC debacle by beating Princeton and winning the Big South, which even though nobody here gives credit for is a big deal. There is way more talent than people realize. Campbell is good. Kennesaw is good. Even 0-5 North Alabama has talent.

[Katfan]

The flip side of MVFC sked would be Sam Houston’s remaining sked

Pretty slack
BS we have JSU and they beat FSU. 😎

[Katfan]

Also, just to make another point about comparing scores and what not- Holy Cross beats yale on a last minute FG. Yale only beats freaking Cornell by 6! Cornell lost to Bucknell by 2 scores! Bucknell got shutout in a 2 score loss to Sacred Heart! Sacred Heart lost to Howard!

Long season, and sometimes weird stuff happens. Monmouth has a chance to erase the HC debacle by beating Princeton and winning the Big South, which even though nobody here gives credit for is a big deal. There is way more talent than people realize. Campbell is good. Kennesaw is good. Even 0-5 North Alabama has talent.
I know you guys had some key players out with injury early or some of them back?

[caribbeanhen]

Princeton beat Monmouth by 6 TD last meeting, and it was a MU team that made the playoffs. Monmouth should be fired up for this one.

Wake me up when Princeton schedules Delaware or Villanova.

I don’t think Delaware wants any part of Princeton but I would love to see it

[PantherRob82]

Also, just to make another point about comparing scores and what not- Holy Cross beats yale on a last minute FG. Yale only beats freaking Cornell by 6! Cornell lost to Bucknell by 2 scores! Bucknell got shutout in a 2 score loss to Sacred Heart! Sacred Heart lost to Howard!

Long season, and sometimes weird stuff happens. Monmouth has a chance to erase the HC debacle by beating Princeton and winning the Big South, which even though nobody here gives credit for is a big deal. There is way more talent than people realize. Campbell is good. Kennesaw is good. Even 0-5 North Alabama has talent.

You got stomped by Holy Cross and still want a juice box and cookies? xlolx

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1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Sam Houston Bearkats
6: UC Davis Aggies
7: Southern Illinois Salukis
8: Montana Grizzlies
9: Montana State Bobcats
10: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
11: Northern Iowa Panthers
12: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
15: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
16: Missouri State Bears
17: Weber State Wildcats
18: Incarnate Word Cardinals
19: Rhode Island Rams
20: Central Arkansas Bears
21: South Dakota Coyotes
22: Mercer Bears
23: Kennesaw State Owls
24: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
25: Harvard Crimson

PantherRob82

The Most Significant Win: Eastern Washington Eagles
The Most Significant Loss: Richmond Spiders
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[MUHAWKS]

not sure where you get that I want anything but whatevr..




You got stomped by Holy Cross and still want a juice box and cookies? xlolx

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1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: James Madison Dukes
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: North Dakota State Bison
5: Sam Houston Bearkats
6: UC Davis Aggies
7: Southern Illinois Salukis
8: Montana Grizzlies
9: Montana State Bobcats
10: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
11: Northern Iowa Panthers
12: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
15: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
16: Missouri State Bears
17: Weber State Wildcats
18: Incarnate Word Cardinals
19: Rhode Island Rams
20: Central Arkansas Bears
21: South Dakota Coyotes
22: Mercer Bears
23: Kennesaw State Owls
24: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
25: Harvard Crimson

PantherRob82

The Most Significant Win: Eastern Washington Eagles
The Most Significant Loss: Richmond Spiders
Which Conference Does Your Team Play in?: Missouri Valley Football Conference

[MUHAWKS]

I know you guys had some key players out with injury early or some of them back?

Unfortunately 3 guys we lost are done for the year, but Our RB has not been fully healthy until this past week and we did get a DL back. Also one of our WR Greene has been banged up.. so we are getting as healthy as we will be but no, the 3 main guys that were lost are done..

[acbearkat]

Coach Hawkins had indicated that Rodrigues was practicing last week and he was dressed for the Idaho game but didn't play. So no one knows for sure if he will play at Idaho State. The Aggies are being extra cautious with him as they should for any head injury.

The Ags started a true Fr QB, Miles Hastings, against the Vandals and he played pretty well for his first ever start but the offense was inconsistent. RFr QB, Trent Tompkins, who is a dual threat QB, took over in the final minute of the 3rd quarter and lit a spark in the team and shifted the momentum of the game with his ability to scramble and break tackles. It was the turning point in the game. Tompkins has been nicknamed "Magic" because of his heroics in the spring due his ability to make big, game changing plays. The knock on him seems to be his unorthodox style of passing where he doesn't use the seams of the ball and throws wearing gloves. The fans and the team love his competitiveness and his exciting style of play though.

Give credit to Idaho though. They have some excellent talent on their team. They were a bit of an unknown coming into this game since they had 2 FBS loses and a DII blowout. They also had 2 weeks to prepare for the Aggies and they came into the game inspired and ready to play. This was a tough game for the Aggies but they were resilient and came up with some big plays when they really needed them. It wasn't our sharpest game but they found a way to win.

Is Dan Hawkins going say “This is the Big 12!” anytime soon?


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[PantherRob82]

not sure where you get that I want anything but whatevr..

"Monmouth has a chance to erase the HC debacle by beating Princeton and winning the Big South, which even though nobody here gives credit for is a big deal."

[TheKingpin28]

1: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
2: Sam Houston Bearkats
3: Eastern Washington Eagles
4: James Madison Dukes
5: North Dakota State Bison
6: Montana Grizzlies
7: Southern Illinois Salukis
8: UC Davis Aggies
9: North Dakota Fighting Hawks
10: Montana State Bobcats
11: Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
12: Northern Iowa Panthers
13: Villanova Wildcats
14: Missouri State Bears
15: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
16: East Tennessee State Buccaneers
17: Weber State Wildcats
18: Incarnate Word Cardinals
19: South Dakota Coyotes
20: Rhode Island Rams
21: Nicholls Colonels
22: Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
23: Central Arkansas Bears
24: Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks
25: Kennesaw State Owls

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[caribbeanhen]

Coach Hawkins had indicated that Rodrigues was practicing last week and he was dressed for the Idaho game but didn't play. So no one knows for sure if he will play at Idaho State. The Aggies are being extra cautious with him as they should for any head injury.

The Ags started a true Fr QB, Miles Hastings, against the Vandals and he played pretty well for his first ever start but the offense was inconsistent. RFr QB, Trent Tompkins, who is a dual threat QB, took over in the final minute of the 3rd quarter and lit a spark in the team and shifted the momentum of the game with his ability to scramble and break tackles. It was the turning point in the game. Tompkins has been nicknamed "Magic" because of his heroics in the spring due his ability to make big, game changing plays. The knock on him seems to be his unorthodox style of passing where he doesn't use the seams of the ball and throws wearing gloves. The fans and the team love his competitiveness and his exciting style of play though.

Give credit to Idaho though. They have some excellent talent on their team. They were a bit of an unknown coming into this game since they had 2 FBS loses and a DII blowout. They also had 2 weeks to prepare for the Aggies and they came into the game inspired and ready to play. This was a tough game for the Aggies but they were resilient and came up with some big plays when they really needed them. It wasn't our sharpest game but they found a way to win.

Just checked in on your game

#18 Tompkins does have some magic doesn’t he!

[MTfan4life]

Just checked in on your game

#18 Tompkins does have some magic doesn’t he!

Tompkins was very good! He definitely provides something the Aggies don't have otherwise. FCS teams with mobile quarterbacks often do very well. Davis should feel very fortunate with 3 very capable QBs on the roster.

[NY Crusader 2010]

Not true. Yes they smoked us by 42 BUT we did not go to the playoffs that year and deservedly so. That year we also lost to Kennesaw by 37.

Got it. This whole COVID thing is making me get my years mixed up. I thought it was the same year you guys got the at large and lost to Northern Iowa.

And yes, a little bit of hyperbole on my part in the other post -- very obvious you guys had a bad game against us. Will be pulling for you guys to get revenge on Princeton and win the Big South. Don't think we'll see you in the playoffs unless both of us pull a Round of 24 upset. Of course, we both have a lot of work to do to make playoff berths happen.

[MUHAWKS]

Got it. This whole COVID thing is making me get my years mixed up. I thought it was the same year you guys got the at large and lost to Northern Iowa.

And yes, a little bit of hyperbole on my part in the other post -- very obvious you guys had a bad game against us. Will be pulling for you guys to get revenge on Princeton and win the Big South. Don't think we'll see you in the playoffs unless both of us pull a Round of 24 upset. Of course, we both have a lot of work to do to make playoff berths happen.


Yeah that was 2017 when we got taken to the woodshed by N Iowa. then we missed in 2018 (the princeton blowout) made it in 2019, beat you guys then got whopped by JMU. then the spring season last year/sam houston.. I agree, i got messed up between 2018 and 2019 myself.

Same here man, we like HC and outside of HC community nobody was more upset to see the Harvard result than us! frankly I am still amazed at what happened to us against you. But def pulling for the Cross to beat Fordham/Lafayette and get back to the post season. Hope you can keep Chesney. Our path is the same, win our conference which looks good so far but Campbell, NC A&T, Kennesaw loom large..Even North Alabama is capable hopefully they do not figure out to win before they play us. Nothing like the FCS playoffs and the week leading up and all that, just want to get back.

[MUHAWKS]

Got it. This whole COVID thing is making me get my years mixed up. I thought it was the same year you guys got the at large and lost to Northern Iowa.

And yes, a little bit of hyperbole on my part in the other post -- very obvious you guys had a bad game against us. Will be pulling for you guys to get revenge on Princeton and win the Big South. Don't think we'll see you in the playoffs unless both of us pull a Round of 24 upset. Of course, we both have a lot of work to do to make playoff berths happen.


and yes, we want revenge on the pumpkins.. Really looking forward to that game just hope we bring our A game which it seems like YOU GUYS brought out in us (meaning after the whopping they got together to get things right)...

[POD Knows]

Monmouth ahead of Harvard. The Crimson would beat them by 60.
Upon further reflection and a review of my week 5 poll process, I am now convinced that it was simply a uncontrollable subconscious troll of Holy Cross. That is the only logical explanation :D

[caribbeanhen]

Tompkins was very good! He definitely provides something the Aggies don't have otherwise. FCS teams with mobile quarterbacks often do very well. Davis should feel very fortunate with 3 very capable QBs on the roster.

why was he not starting in the first place ? I’m not suggesting he is better than the #1 but looked much better than the #2

[caribbeanhen]

I think UC Davis might be overrated some. I like them and have them ranked high but they will probably take a hit in coming weeks ... just a hunch

it was the eye test with no stats

[caribbeanhen]

Be sure to check in on Princeton Monmouth game this Saturday, it’s put up or shut up time for those that are voting for Ivy League teams

I like the way Princeton plays, going for it on 4th down in your own territory is refreshing while watching Rip Van Rocco games

[katss07]

Seriously, I don’t think so. Troll bait!
I’d say my take aged pretty well

[wapiti]

A couple of interesting losses today to consider as most significant. UC Davis and JMU

[Daytripper]

A couple of interesting losses today to consider as most significant. UC Davis and JMU

Delaware, also.

[dewey]

Delaware, also.

Agreed. A LOT of top teams lost today. To me SDSU pissing that game away was the biggest.

Dewey

[Chalupa Batman]

Most significant win was Jacksonville State. [emoji16]

[Daytripper]

Agreed. A LOT of top teams lost today. To me SDSU pissing that game away was the biggest.

Dewey

Yep. I wouldn't want to be Western Illinois next weekend. I imagine the Rabbits are going to be unhappy. It will get ugly.

[Chalupa Batman]

Agreed. A LOT of top teams lost today. To me SDSU pissing that game away was the biggest.

Dewey

It’s a huge loss, but to me it says more about SIU’s grit and determination.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

It’s a huge loss, but to me it says more about SIU’s grit and determination.


IMO, it's not a huge loss. SDSU controls their own destiny, just like NDSU and SIU. SDSU wins out, they are a top 2 seed.

[Chalupa Batman]

IMO, it's not a huge loss. SDSU controls their own destiny, just like NDSU and SIU. SDSU wins out, they are a top 2 seed.

IMO EWU controls its own destiny and then SIU/NDSU if we both win out is a coin flip for #2 (we don’t play each other). But if SDSU beats us they’ll still need SIU or EWU to lose, and maybe Sam Houston too. Their resume won’t be good but being defending champs will carry a lot of clout.

[dewey]

IMO, it's not a huge loss. SDSU controls their own destiny, just like NDSU and SIU. SDSU wins out, they are a top 2 seed.

Good point. However, Eastern Washington and Montana State now enter the conversation as a top 2 seed with the SDSU loss.

Boy that game in Brookins is going to be huge!

Dewey

[Katfan]

I’d say my take aged pretty well
You said 9 they weren’t that good! JMU bites the dust!

[Gil Dobie]

Good point. However, Eastern Washington and Montana State now enter the conversation as a top 2 seed with the SDSU loss.

Boy that game in Brookins is going to be huge!

Dewey

If both teams don't lose on the way there.

[acbearkat]

I’d say my take aged pretty well

Mine did not, as South Dakota State lost.


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[Chalupa Batman]

Good point. However, Eastern Washington and Montana State now enter the conversation as a top 2 seed with the SDSU loss.

Boy that game in Brookins is going to be huge!

Dewey

It’s shaping up to be a wild ride positioning for the top 2 seeds. As I see it only 2 teams control their own destiny, that’s EWU & Montana State. They play each other so that will knock one of them out. NDSU & SIU can both run the table as we don’t play each other, one of us will be a top 2 seed along with EWU/MSU but I have no idea which one.

[F'N Hawks]

Do not vote for UND in Top 25. They are 2-3 and basically a dumpster fire on offense. Next week at SIU is gonna be fugly.

[dewey]

It’s shaping up to be a wild ride positioning for the top 2 seeds. As I see it only 2 teams control their own destiny, that’s EWU & Montana State. They play each other so that will knock one of them out. NDSU & SIU can both run the table as we don’t play each other, one of us will be a top 2 seed along with EWU/MSU but I have no idea which one.

This weekend makes things really interesting.

If NDSU wins out top 2 seed.
If EWU wins put top 2 seed.
Does SHSU get a top 2 seed, with their weak schedule, as the defending Champions?
What about a 1 loss SIU team (very close loss to Kansas State)?
If SDSU and JMU win are they a top 2?
Hell, what about Villanova after the win over the Dukes?

What about East Tennessee State? They have a FBS win too.

Yikes. What about the Rhode Island Rams, they have Villanova and UMass (FBS) yet.

PLUS....Jacksonville State won today....they are the favorite for a top 2 seed, right...LOL!

Going to be a challenge this week with the top 25.

Cheers all!

Dewey

[Professor Chaos]

This weekend makes things really interesting.

If NDSU wins out top 2 seed.
If EWU wins put top 2 seed.
Does SHSU get a top 2 seed, with their weak schedule, as the defending Champions?
What about a 1 loss SIU team (very close loss to Kansas State)?
If SDSU and JMU win are they a top 2?
Hell, what about Villanova after the win over the Dukes?

What about East Tennessee State? They have a FBS win too.

Yikes. What about the Rhode Island Rams, they have Villanova and UMass (FBS) yet.

Going to be a challenge this week with the top 25.

Cheers all!

Dewey
Yeah, there's a lot of teams you could probably say could win out and get a top 2 seed... I'd say 10+ right now. It really depends on how everything else shapes up. Just go back and look at the 2016 for a scenario where a bunch of teams thought "if we win out (minus FBS games) we're a top #2 seed" and there just weren't enough seats at the table. You had:

1) NDSU: 10-1 - MVFC co-champ with a win over B1G Iowa
2) EWU: 10-1 - Big Sky champ with a win over Pac-12 Washington St and only loss in OT @NDSU
3) Jacksonville St: 10-1 - OVC champ and only loss was to LSU
4) JMU: 10-1 - CAA champ and only loss was to North Carolina
5) Sam Houston: 11-0 - Southland champ but with a pretty weak schedule and no FBS win
6) The Citadel: 10-1 - SOCON champ and only loss was to North Carolina (just like JMU)

One season before that in 2015 Illinois St got the 2 seed at 9-2 with an FBS loss and a 7-1 MVFC record and NDSU got the 3 seed with a 9-2 record which was 2 FCS losses and the same 7-1 MVFC mark.

[Cocky]

JSU has no playoff destiny. Blind squirrel today.

[dewey]

Yeah, there's a lot of teams you could probably say could win out and get a top 2 seed... I'd say 10+ right now. It really depends on how everything else shapes up. Just go back and look at the 2016 for a scenario where a bunch of teams thought "if we win out (minus FBS games) we're a top #2 seed" and there just weren't enough seats at the table. You had:

1) NDSU: 10-1 - MVFC co-champ with a win over B1G Iowa
2) EWU: 10-1 - Big Sky champ with a win over Pac-12 Washington St and only loss in OT @NDSU
3) Jacksonville St: 10-1 - OVC champ and only loss was to LSU
4) JMU: 10-1 - CAA champ and only loss was to North Carolina
5) Sam Houston: 11-0 - Southland champ but with a pretty weak schedule and no FBS win
6) The Citadel: 10-1 - SOCON champ and only loss was to North Carolina (just like JMU)

One season before that in 2015 Illinois St got the 2 seed at 9-2 with an FBS loss and a 7-1 MVFC record and NDSU got the 3 seed with a 9-2 record which was 2 FCS losses and the same 7-1 MVFC mark.

Great comparison PC! It will be interesting to see what the committee does with a potentially undefeated defending National Champs.

Very interesting times a coming.

Dewey

[skinny_uncle]

4 of the top 8 teams lost today. Should shake things up.

[katss07]

Mine did not, as South Dakota State lost.


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I expected to see South Dakota State win too, they’re the most complete team in the nation IMO and were worthy of their top ranking. I love the way SIU plays though, their never say die attitude and their big play abilities. Nick Hill is a really good coach for them it seems. Baker is the real deal and it seems like they’ve got a talented defense again. Idk though I’ve only watched them twice, still wouldn’t want to face them early in the playoffs.

JMU, on the other hand, well they’re not that good and if the CAA wasn’t on par with the Southland this year then they’d have been exposed earlier. xcoffeex

[Professor Chaos]

I expected to see South Dakota State win too, they’re the most complete team in the nation IMO and were worthy of their top ranking. I love the way SIU plays though, their never say die attitude and their big play abilities. Nick Hill is a really good coach for them it seems. Baker is the real deal and it seems like they’ve got a talented defense again. Idk though I’ve only watched them twice, still wouldn’t want to face them early in the playoffs.

JMU, on the other hand, well they’re not that good and if the CAA wasn’t on par with the Southland this year then they’d have been exposed earlier. xcoffeex
Nic Baker is a stud... there's a reason why they benched Lebanowitz who took them to the quarterfinals in the spring for Baker... he's the best QB in the MVFC IMO. If SIU could get their defense straightened out they'd be a national title favorite IMO. They have a great QB, fantastic WRs, and studs at RB... defense is all that's holding them back and I still think they can get that figured out if the chips fall the right way for them from here on out.

[skinny_uncle]

Nic Baker is a stud... there's a reason why they benched Lebanowitz who took them to the quarterfinals in the spring for Baker... he's the best QB in the MVFC IMO. If SIU could get their defense straightened out they'd be a national title favorite IMO. They have a great QB, fantastic WRs, and studs at RB... defense is all that's holding them back and I still think they can get that figured out if the chips fall the right way for them from here on out.

Still, their D won the game for them today. They made the stop in OT and forced 3 turnovers during the game. They needed all of that.

[Professor Chaos]

Still, their D won the game for them today. They made the stop in OT and forced 3 turnovers during the game. They needed all of that.
SIU's defense definitely flashes... that's why I think they can be a juggernaut if they can figure out how to get the defense to show that consistently.

[Houndawg]

SIU's defense definitely flashes... that's why I think they can be a juggernaut if they can figure out how to get the defense to show that consistently.

Sometimes our offense scores so quickly that it seems like the D is on the field forever.

[kalm]

Great comparison PC! It will be interesting to see what the committee does with a potentially undefeated defending National Champs.

Very interesting times a coming.

Dewey

Indeed. They will have very few if any quality wins. Spring results should have no bearing. Not saying they won’t, but they shouldn’t.