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TexasTerror
August 24th, 2007, 09:01 AM
The thread where I'll post anything and everything that comes out regarding this game...
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Angelo State Rams @ Sam Houston State Bearkats
Thursday, August 30th, 2007 · Bowers Stadium (Huntsville, TX) · Season Opener

Audio
Angelo: http://www.angelosports.com/AdMonitor.dbml?ATCLID=654572&DB_OEM_ID=12200&SPSID=62960&MONITOR_AD_ID=16556
SHSU: http://www.live365.com/stations/ksam?site=ksam

Releases:
Angelo: To be posted
SHSU: http://bearkats.shsu.edu/pdf/fbrelease.pdf

Team Web Site:
Angelo: http://www.angelosports.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=12200&KEY=&SPID=5085&SPSID=50604
SHSU: http://bearkats.shsu.edu/football/

Team Fan Sites:
Angelo: http://www.d2messageboard.com/forumdisplay.php?f=34 (D2-LSC Board)
SHSU: http://www.katfans.com/

mikebigg
August 24th, 2007, 01:09 PM
What division is Angelo State? Are they NAIA? I couldn't find much info on them when I did a google... Found the site, but my work computer keeps getting hung up (Maybe cuz that's not where I'm supposed to be logged on xlolx ) Why are you guys opening up with a DII school anyway?
Seriously, was it so that yall didn't have to do a home and home or was it due to difficulty filling the date.

TheRiver
August 24th, 2007, 01:20 PM
Why is it on Thursday?
There will be no one is the stands at all, maybe 3,000

Bearkatpresident
August 24th, 2007, 01:58 PM
The students will be there. It is the first game after all.

fmrbearkat
August 24th, 2007, 02:49 PM
Missouri State payed us out to go play another school (Kansas State maybe) and left us high and dry early this year and this is the only game we could get. We tried several FCS schools but all were full. Thanks to the bears we basically have to win conference to make the playoffs this year.

McNeeseState311
August 24th, 2007, 02:51 PM
The thread where I'll post anything and everything that comes out regarding this game...
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Angelo State Rams @ Sam Houston State Bearkats
Thursday, August 30th, 2007 · Bowers Stadium (Huntsville, TX) · Season Opener

Audio
Angelo: http://www.angelosports.com/AdMonitor.dbml?ATCLID=654572&DB_OEM_ID=12200&SPSID=62960&MONITOR_AD_ID=16556
SHSU: http://www.live365.com/stations/ksam?site=ksam

Releases:
Angelo: To be posted
SHSU: http://bearkats.shsu.edu/pdf/fbrelease.pdf

Team Web Site:
Angelo: http://www.angelosports.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=12200&KEY=&SPID=5085&SPSID=50604
SHSU: http://bearkats.shsu.edu/football/

Team Fan Sites:
Angelo: http://www.d2messageboard.com/forumdisplay.php?f=34 (D2-LSC Board)
SHSU: http://www.katfans.com/


who cares?

McTailGator
August 24th, 2007, 03:01 PM
That is another reason I belive the NCAA should NOT allow schools to buy out of contracts unless BOTH schools agree.

Home and homes should be honored NO MATTER what!

CSUBUCDAD
August 24th, 2007, 03:14 PM
My Dad was an Angelo St. Alumni. Played football there back in the mid 50's.

Bearkatpresident
August 24th, 2007, 03:20 PM
It's kinda odd playing Angelo State. They're in our university system, but will be leaving in September for the Texas Tech System. Most of the people there won't even realize this, but it's still kinda odd to me.

mikebigg
August 24th, 2007, 03:26 PM
No smack, but I can't remember is his name is Rhett Bomar or Bret Romar. Anyway, will he be eligible for the first game. How has he looked in camp? He should be a huge factor in things for yall this year.

Bearkatpresident
August 24th, 2007, 04:20 PM
Rhett Bomar, and he's been looking great. He's set records in the weight room and he's the 2nd fastest in the speed drills.

What's even more dangerous, is that he's wearing off on the other QBs...all of them should have some new moves this season. We'll be stacked at QB for awhile

McNeese75
August 24th, 2007, 05:24 PM
Rhett Bomar, and he's been looking great. He's set records in the weight room and he's the 2nd fastest in the speed drills.

What's even more dangerous, is that he's wearing off on the other QBs...all of them should have some new moves this season. We'll be stacked at QB for awhile


I watched a replay of the Texas HS all star game the other night. I was impressed with your new signee QB Welsh. He really looked good but I guess the big question is will he stay with your program due to the constant flow of incoming QB tranfers you always have.

slycat
August 24th, 2007, 06:02 PM
What division is Angelo State? Are they NAIA? I couldn't find much info on them when I did a google... Found the site, but my work computer keeps getting hung up (Maybe cuz that's not where I'm supposed to be logged on xlolx ) Why are you guys opening up with a DII school anyway?
Seriously, was it so that yall didn't have to do a home and home or was it due to difficulty filling the date.

DII

Casey_Orourke
August 24th, 2007, 06:49 PM
I remember some games Portland State had with Angelo St, back when we were still D-II along with the fierce rivalry we had with A&M Kingsville... Those were the days

Bearkatpresident
August 24th, 2007, 08:14 PM
Well, we do graduate Pate and Hicks next May, so that will free up some room on the depth chart. Welch is going to kick @$$ when he's ready

TexasTerror
August 24th, 2007, 10:14 PM
What division is Angelo State? Are they NAIA? I couldn't find much info on them when I did a google... Found the site, but my work computer keeps getting hung up (Maybe cuz that's not where I'm supposed to be logged on xlolx ) Why are you guys opening up with a DII school anyway?
Seriously, was it so that yall didn't have to do a home and home or was it due to difficulty filling the date.

If SHSU could schedule a 'gimme' from the world of Division I to count towards our seven wins to get to the playoffs, we would...

Division II is not ideal, we schedule one per year typically. As noted elsewhere, we scheduled two as Missouri State pulled out of a home-and-home so they got two games while we had none (Rita washed out another).

TexasTerror
August 25th, 2007, 09:14 AM
Bearkats working out kinks on defensive side of the ball. Not too concerned at all with the JUCO and FBS transfers that have come to play...honestly feel that our defense will be overlooked...

SHSU defense continues to improve

New starters, backups starting to jell as a unit
By Cody Stark
Assistant Sports Editor

After taking a break from action Thursday, the Bearkats were back on the field Friday afternoon to begin game-week preparation.

Sam Houston State opens the season next Thursday at home against Angelo State. The guys went all out in full pads for two and a half hours and have made a lot of progress over the last couple of weeks.

The defense is starting to take shape considering the amount of positions that had to be filled. The Bearkats entered the spring and summer with eight starting positions up for grabs in their 4-2-5 defensive scheme.

http://www.itemonline.com/sports/local_story_237012353.html?keyword=secondarystory

McNeese75
August 25th, 2007, 09:22 AM
Well, we do graduate Pate and Hicks next May, so that will free up some room on the depth chart. Welch is going to kick @$$ when he's ready

Well, maybe so if you don't accept another 2-3 transfers over the next couple of years. I really do not see why these talented freshmen come to SHSU with the history of QB transfers.

TexasTerror
August 25th, 2007, 09:27 AM
Well, maybe so if you don't accept another 2-3 transfers over the next couple of years. I really do not see why these talented freshmen come to SHSU with the history of QB transfers.

While Long, McCown and Chaloupka get a lot of attention, it's not hard for Kat fans to forget Vance Smith, Mario Kinsey, Luke Huard and Noah Allen...

TexasTerror
August 25th, 2007, 11:59 AM
For those who haven't paid attention, this game will be a freebie televised on the Internet. This will give people a chance to see Rhett Bomar play some football in Bearkat orange in his SHSU debut.

A link for more information from another thread on AGS...

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28170

dpd
August 26th, 2007, 06:37 AM
Angelo State plays in the powerful Lone Star Conference (D2). The Rams are usually pretty competitive, although last year their record was 3-7. Here is the link to their athletic site:
http://www.angelosports.com/

Bearkatpresident
August 26th, 2007, 02:15 PM
SHSU and a few other SLC schools used to be in the Lone Star Conference before we moved up. We used to play ASU all the time back in the day.

TexasTerror
August 26th, 2007, 09:16 PM
Angelo St outlook...

http://www.angelosports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=1177228&DB_OEM_ID=12200

TexasTerror
August 28th, 2007, 09:05 AM
Angelo State release...

The new year of football for Angelo State begins two days earlier than normal as the Rams kickoff the season at 6 p.m. Aug. 30 with a game at NCAA Division I foe Sam Houston State. The Rams are 23-19-1 all-time in season openers and have claimed wins in each of the past two seasons to start off the year. The Thursday game will mark the first such contest for the Rams since Sept. 1, 2005, when ASU hosted Southern Nazarene University.



Against the Bearkats...Thursday will mark the 30th all-time meeting between the Rams and SHSU with Angelo State holding a 17-12 advantage in the series. The last ASU victory in the series came in 1997 with the Rams downing SHSU, 24-17, in the team's last trip to Huntsville. The Bearkats have claimed victory in five of the last six meetings, including last game in the series in 1998, a game in which SHSU pulled off a 27-26 victory in San Angelo.

The two teams met yearly from 1970-91, including twice each in 1977 and 1978. Sam Houston State was a member of the Lone Star Conference from 1931-84. During the 12 years the two teams overlapped in the league, the Rams held a 13-3 advantage and won 12 consecutive games against the Bearkats.

The first meeting between the two programs came in 1965, the Rams' second season of football as a four-year institution, with ASU grabbing a 19-12 victory at home.

http://www.angelosports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=12200&ATCLID=1178452

TexasTerror
August 29th, 2007, 08:35 AM
Article from San Angelo fishwrap...

Poll prediction not a factor for Rams

By PAUL HARRIS, Special to the Standard-Times
Sunday, August 26, 2007

After three weeks of training camp, the Angelo State University football team has finally reached the week it’s been working for — game week.

The Rams will open the season Thursday when they travel to Huntsville to take on Division I-AA Sam Houston State at 6 p.m.

After last year’s 3-7 record, ASU was picked to finish in sixth place in its seven-team division this year in the preseason Lone Star Conference poll.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2007/aug/26/poll-prediction-not-factor-rams/

Bison77
August 29th, 2007, 08:40 AM
Article from San Angelo fishwrap...

Poll prediction not a factor for Rams

By PAUL HARRIS, Special to the Standard-Times
Sunday, August 26, 2007

After three weeks of training camp, the Angelo State University football team has finally reached the week it’s been working for — game week.

The Rams will open the season Thursday when they travel to Huntsville to take on Division I-AA Sam Houston State at 6 p.m.

After last year’s 3-7 record, ASU was picked to finish in sixth place in its seven-team division this year in the preseason Lone Star Conference poll.

http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2007/aug/26/poll-prediction-not-factor-rams/

I hope SHSU doesn't think all there pre conference games will be this easy!

katstrapper
August 29th, 2007, 10:35 AM
I hope SHSU doesn't think all there pre conference games will be this easy!


Angelo St will NOT be an easy game. SHSU played them for many years in the past and it became a good rival, especially when SHSU was in the Lone Star Conference. Dont look for us to take this game lightly.xnonox

I look for a VERY good game in Fargo in a few weeks. I think the Bison will be suprised at the entire team we put on the field. We know what to expect from NDSU.

NDSU better not overlook SFA. They will be much improved over last year.xnodx

Panther88
August 29th, 2007, 12:00 PM
SHSU and a few other SLC schools used to be in the Lone Star Conference before we moved up. We used to play ASU all the time back in the day.

Where's TexasTerror to blast you Bearkat el presidente' over those remarks of historical competitor?!

TT rode us (PV) until the sun came up the following day lol regarding our playing PQ/TC et al. So, historical games by SHSU are ok but for others it's not? O----------------------------kay! xthumbsupx xlolx

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 08:31 AM
Game day!

Ready to rock

Bearkats open much anticipated 2007 season tonight against Angelo State
By Cody Stark
Assistant Sports Editor

The wait is finally over and now it’s time to see what the Sam Houston State football team can do.

Since the end of last season, anticipation has been building and expectations soaring for this moment when the Bearkats kick off the 2007 campaign against Angelo State tonight at Bowers Stadium.

SHSU was one win away from a Southland Conference championship in 2006. But with the addition of several key transfers and a strong supporting cast of returning players, this could be the year the league title returns to Bearkat country.

http://www.itemonline.com/sports/local_story_241232044.html?keyword=topstory

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 08:33 AM
Breaking down the Bearkats
http://media.www.houstonianonline.com/media/storage/paper229/news/2007/08/30/Sports/Breaking.Down.The.Bearkats-2942874.shtml

Bomar has high expectations for first season at SHSU
http://media.www.houstonianonline.com/media/storage/paper229/news/2007/08/30/Sports/Bomar.Has.High.Expectations.For.First.Season.At.Sh su-2942881.shtml

Defense Could be Deciding Factor for Conference Crown
http://media.www.houstonianonline.com/media/storage/paper229/news/2007/08/30/Sports/Defense.Could.Be.Deciding.Factor.For.Conference.Cr own-2942886.shtml

Panther88
August 30th, 2007, 03:50 PM
Where's TexasTerror to blast you Bearkat el presidente' over those remarks of historical competitor?!

TT rode us (PV) until the sun came up the following day lol regarding our playing PQ/TC et al. So, historical games by SHSU are ok but for others it's not? O----------------------------kay! xthumbsupx xlolx

Don't ignore me TT. U got some 'splainin' to do buddy. xrolleyesx

beerkat
August 30th, 2007, 04:33 PM
we don't play angelo state every year as a 'historical competitor', this is the first time we have played them in several years

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 06:41 PM
we don't play angelo state every year as a 'historical competitor', this is the first time we have played them in several years

Did not see the remark from Panther88...

As BeerKat says, they are not someone we play yearly, they just were an old rival from the LSC that we carried into our FCS days (even playing them in San Angelo), but we've obviously corrected our scheduling ways and don't play sub-Div I foes on the road like another conference in this region...

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 06:47 PM
Have Southland.TV ready to go...

It has the KSAM-FM (Sam Houston State) feed running right now with an image saying that the game will begin shortly...

What a great day to be a Bearkat! They have a sideline reporter, Jared Morris...very nice!

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 06:51 PM
Starting for SHSU...

OFFENSE

QB Bomar
RB Poullard
WR Houston
WR D. Jones
WR Wells
TE Martin
OT Hale
OT Dirk
OG Schmidt
OG Dretke
C Williams

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 07:00 PM
Kats defer til the second half...

Angelo State will return the ball to begin the game...

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 07:04 PM
SHSU kicks to the AS12, Fowler returns it to AS29.

1-10 AS29 Incomplete pass (deflected by McCall)
2-10 AS29 Thomas loses five yards on the run (Branch)
3-15 AS24 Thomas gains 11 on run (Richmond)

PUNT -- Houston takes at SH21 gets to SH31

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 07:07 PM
1-10 SH31 Poullard to SH37 on the ground
2-4 SH37 Bomar pass incomplete to Houston
3-4 SH37 Bomar intercepted by Ritchey

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 07:10 PM
Angelo State
1-10 SH30 Thomas 2 yd run (Richmond)
2-8 SH28 Thomas 6 yd run (Moore)
3-2 SH22 Thomas 1 yd run (Brown)
4-1 SH21 Thomas no gain (Richmond, Garrett)

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 07:12 PM
1-10 SH21 Bomar to Poullard for 15 yards
1-10 SH36 Bomar to Wells 64 yards -- TOUCHDOWN!
Wilkins kick is GOOD!

Angelo State Rams @ Sam Houston State Bearkats

Scoring Summary

First Quarter
SHSU: Rhett Bomar 64 yard pass to Justin Wells (Taylor Wilkins kick), 9:45, SHSU 7-0 ASU

Go Bison
August 30th, 2007, 07:13 PM
1-10 SH31 Poullard to SH37 on the ground
2-4 SH37 Bomar pass incomplete to Houston
3-4 SH37 Bomar intercepted by Ritchey

Bomar intercepted? Interesting.

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 07:17 PM
SHSU kick to AS05, Fowler returns to AS35...

Angelo St
1-10 AS35 - Thomas no gain (Richmond)
2-10 AS35 - Neisswander to Kendall, 5 yards (Garrett)
3-5 AS40 - Pass incomplete
PUNT, out of bounds at SH28...

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 07:28 PM
1-10 SH29 Poullard three yard run
2-8 SH32 Bomar complete to Martin, 4 yards
3-4 SH36 Bomar complete to Poullard, 5 yards
1-10 SH41 Poullard eight yard run
2-2 SH49 Poullard seven yard run
1-10 AS44 Sneed no gain
2-10 AS44 Bomar eight yard run
3-3 AS33 Bomar to Martin, 4 yards
1-10 AS29 Offsetting penalties
1-10 AS29 Pullard four yard run
2-6 AS25 Bomar to Lucas, 6 yards
1-10 AS19 Sneed two yard run
2-8 AS17 Bomar three yard run
3-5 AS14 Bomar to Houston, 1 yard
4-4 AS13 KICK IS GOOD

Angelo State Rams @ Sam Houston State Bearkats

Scoring Summary

First Quarter
SHSU: Rhett Bomar 64 yard pass to Justin Wells (Taylor Wilkins kick), 9:45 -- SHSU 7-0 ASU
SHSU: Taylor Wilkins 30 yard kick, 00:43 SHSU 10-0 ASU

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 07:37 PM
ANGELO ST

1-10 AS33 False Start
1-15 AS28 Thomas six yard run (Otalor)
END OF FIRST QUARTER

2-9 AS34 Holding
2-19 AS24 Thomas three yard run (J. Brown)
3-16 AS27 Deflected pass by Richmond
4-16 AS27 Roughing the punter

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 07:45 PM
Video went out...

2-3 SH49 Thomas 2 yd run (Bucek, McCall)
3-1 SH47 Thomas 2 yd run (Branch)
1-10 SH45 Neisswander to Petersen 12 yd
1-10 SH33 Thomas 5 yd run (Stewart)
2-5 SH28 Neisswander incomplete to endzone (pass interference)
1-10 SH13 Thomas 1 yd run (Cobey)
2-9 SH12 Neisswander to Watson, 5 yd
3-4 SH07 Dropped pass in the end zone (Petersen)
4-4 SH07 Bad snap, holder throws the ball incomplete

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 07:58 PM
1-10 SH07 False start
1-14 SH03 Poullard 7 yd run
2-7 SH10 Poullard 8 yd run
1-10 SH18 Poullard -3 yd run
2-13 SH 21 Bomar to Houston 6 yd
3-7 SH27 Bomar to Jones 7 yd
**Play Clock is Out **
1-10 SH34 Bomar to Poullard 30 yd
1-10 AS36 Bomar 7 yd run
2-3 AS29 Poullard 8 yd run
1-10 AS21 Illegal Procedure
1-15 AS26 Sneed 8 yd run
2-7 AS18 Sneed 10 yd run
1-G AS08 Sneed 0 yd run
2-G AS08 Bomar incomplete to Payne
3-G AS08 Bomar 8 yd run -- TOUCHDOWN!

Angelo State Rams @ Sam Houston State Bearkats

Scoring Summary

First Quarter
SHSU: Rhett Bomar 64 yard pass to Justin Wells (Taylor Wilkins kick), 9:45 -- SHSU 7-0 ASU
SHSU: Taylor Wilkins 30 yard kick, 00:43 SHSU 10-0 ASU

Second Quarter
SHSU: Rhett Bomar 8 yard run (Taylor Wilkins kick), 2:15 -- SHSU 17-0 ASU

Ronbo
August 30th, 2007, 08:04 PM
Are you a court stenographer or something? LOL xlolx

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 08:09 PM
Angelo State Rams @ Sam Houston State Bearkats

Scoring Summary

First Quarter
SHSU: Rhett Bomar 64 yard pass to Justin Wells (Taylor Wilkins kick), 9:45 -- SHSU 7-0 ASU
SHSU: Taylor Wilkins 30 yard kick, 00:43 SHSU 10-0 ASU

Second Quarter
SHSU: Rhett Bomar 8 yard run (Taylor Wilkins kick), 2:15 -- SHSU 17-0 ASU
ASU: Sam Kendall 25 yard fumble return (kick - no name provided), 1:30 -- SHSU 17-7 ASU

Ronbo
August 30th, 2007, 08:13 PM
I'm watching this on Southland TV and the picture is good but the sound is barely audible. Also it's annoying that they replay every gad dang play. Geeze he gets a 1 yard gain up the middle and we have to see it again.

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 08:14 PM
HALFTIME in Huntsville

SHSU 17-7 Angelo St

As far as audio, it's bad when they are picking up the SHSU feed. When they show their own commercials and such at the breaks, it is better...

Ronbo
August 30th, 2007, 08:27 PM
Here is the technical support.

http://www.southland.org/CreateTicket.dbml?temp_site=NO&DB_OEM_ID=18400

I emailed them to turn it up! I'm not going to pay for one with sound like this. I was thinking of getting the PSU/McNeese game.

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 08:53 PM
Angelo State Rams @ Sam Houston State Bearkats

Scoring Summary

First Quarter
SHSU: Rhett Bomar 64 yard pass to Justin Wells (Taylor Wilkins kick), 9:45 -- SHSU 7-0 ASU
SHSU: Taylor Wilkins 30 yard kick, 00:43 SHSU 10-0 ASU

Second Quarter
SHSU: Rhett Bomar 8 yard run (Taylor Wilkins kick), 2:15 -- SHSU 17-0 ASU
ASU: Sam Kendall 25 yard fumble return (kick - no name provided), 1:30 -- SHSU 17-7 ASU

Third Quarter
ASU: Brad Holcomb 34 yard FG, 6:35 -- SHSU 17-10 ASU

Ronbo
August 30th, 2007, 08:53 PM
Sam Houston State's run defense is worrisome.

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 09:02 PM
Let's get back into things...

1-10 SH45 False Start
1-15 SH40 Sneed no gain
2-15 SH40 Bomar 1 yd run (Bomar hurt, All-SLC HM QB Brett Hicks in)
3-14 SH41 Hicks incomplete pass to Sneed

SHSU PUNT - Angelo St touches it at the AS10, SHSU recovers it -- BEARKAT BALL -- OVERTURNED, RAM BALL

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 09:09 PM
1-10 AS10 Neisswander pass to SH28, 62 yd pass
1-10 SH28 Thomas 1 yd (Bucek)
2-9 SH27 Neisswander to Petersen, 15 yd
1-10 SH15 Thomas 3 yd loss
2-13 SH18 Timeout, Angelo St 2:29 3Q
2-13 SH18 Neisswander to Petersen, 7 yd gain
3-6 SH11 Neisswander incomplete

Angelo State Rams @ Sam Houston State Bearkats

Scoring Summary

First Quarter
SHSU: Rhett Bomar 64 yard pass to Justin Wells (Taylor Wilkins kick), 9:45 -- SHSU 7-0 ASU
SHSU: Taylor Wilkins 30 yard kick, 00:43 SHSU 10-0 ASU

Second Quarter
SHSU: Rhett Bomar 8 yard run (Taylor Wilkins kick), 2:15 -- SHSU 17-0 ASU
ASU: Sam Kendall 25 yard fumble return (kick - no name provided), 1:30 -- SHSU 17-7 ASU

Third Quarter
ASU: Brad Holcomb 34 yard FG, 6:35 -- SHSU 17-10 ASU
ASU: Brad Holcomb 28 yard FG, 1:32 -- SHSU 17-13 ASU

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 09:14 PM
1-10 SH23 Poullard 5 yd run
2-5 SH28 Hicks complete to Martin, 13 yard pass
1-10 SH41 Poullard 4 yd run
2-6 SH45 (Bomar returns) Poullard 8 yd run

END 3Q

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 09:19 PM
1-10 AS47 Poullard no gain
2-10 AS47 Poullard 6 yd
3-4 AS41 Bomar to Jones, 12 yd
1-10 AS29 Bomar to Poullard, 16 yd
1-10 AS13 SHSU Timeout

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 09:24 PM
1-10 AS13 Bomar -3 yd run
2-13 AS16 Roughing the Passer
1-G AS07 Sneed 2 yd run
2-G AS05 Bomar incomplete to J.Brown
3-G AS05 Bomar incomplete to Houston
4-G Kick muffed, Raymer runs to the AS03

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 09:30 PM
1-10 AS02 Thomas nailed and spotted at the AS inch line
2-11 AS01 Neisswander to Petersen, 15 yard
1-10 AS16 Thomas 8 yd run
2-2 AS24 Neisswander 6 yd run
1-10 AS30 Thomas 1 yd loss (Cobey)
2-11 AS29 Neisswander to Petersen, 8 yd
3-3 AS37 Neisswander to Kendall, 8 yd
1-10 AS45 Timeout, Rams

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 09:36 PM
1-10 AS44 Neisswander to Kendall, 41 yard pass
1-10 SH15 Thomas 6 yd run
2-4 SH09 Thomas 1 yd run
3-3 SH08 Neisswander collides with FB, loss of one
4-4 SH09 Neisswander, incomplete

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 09:38 PM
1-10 SH09 Poullard gains nothing
2-10 SH09 Poullard 2 yd gain
3-8 SH11 Bomar to Poullard, 3 yd

SHSU PUNT - Capparelli punt, Angelo St fumbles, recovers and gets to AS20 -- Personal Foul on the play (ASU)

Ronbo
August 30th, 2007, 09:41 PM
Looks like you might squeak this one out.

TxState_GO_CATS!
August 30th, 2007, 09:43 PM
wait...why is this game so close?

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 09:43 PM
1-10 AS10 Neisswander sacked by Glotson
2-15 AS05 Neisswander to Kendall, 8 yd
3-7 AS13 Thomas, no gain (C. Brown)
4-7 AS13 Neisswander incomplete

Thank gawd!

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 09:46 PM
1-10 AS13 Bomar kneels
2-11 AS14 Bomar kneels
3-12 AS15 Bomar kneels

BALL GAME

Angelo State Rams @ Sam Houston State Bearkats

Scoring Summary

First Quarter
SHSU: Rhett Bomar 64 yard pass to Justin Wells (Taylor Wilkins kick), 9:45 -- SHSU 7-0 ASU
SHSU: Taylor Wilkins 30 yard kick, 00:43 SHSU 10-0 ASU

Second Quarter
SHSU: Rhett Bomar 8 yard run (Taylor Wilkins kick), 2:15 -- SHSU 17-0 ASU
ASU: Sam Kendall 25 yard fumble return (kick - no name provided), 1:30 -- SHSU 17-7 ASU

Third Quarter
ASU: Brad Holcomb 34 yard FG, 6:35 -- SHSU 17-10 ASU
ASU: Brad Holcomb 28 yard FG, 1:32 -- SHSU 17-13 ASU

Fourth Quarter
- None -

Go Bison
August 30th, 2007, 09:48 PM
Wow. This game was much closer than it should have been. Glad the Bearkats pulled it out. What were Bomar's final stats?

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 09:51 PM
OC James Ferguson, "well wasn't that ugly"

Whitten post-game interview...

Whitten says anytime you win, a good feeling. Lots of mistakes. Did not play well in red zone. Roughed the punter, dropped a ball on a punt. Said Kats need to get sharper on special teams. Kats fought, got it done and it was not the best effort.

Whitten on cramping. Bomar was cramped, leg was knotted up. One of those nights where everything that could've gone wrong did.

Signal cut out...

TxState_GO_CATS!
August 30th, 2007, 09:53 PM
this was...unexpected.

guess if you guys plan on "hangin 60," you should probably "hang 20" on a div. II team first. xlolx xthumbsupx xsmiley_wix

McTailGator
August 30th, 2007, 09:58 PM
OC James Ferguson, "well wasn't that ugly"

Whitten post-game interview...

Whitten says anytime you win, a good feeling. Lots of mistakes. Did not play well in red zone. Roughed the punter, dropped a ball on a punt. Said Kats need to get sharper on special teams. Kats fought, got it done and it was not the best effort.

Whitten on cramping. Bomar was cramped, leg was knotted up. One of those nights where everything that could've gone wrong did.

Signal cut out...



YUK!:pumpuke:


On a technical note. Those camera operators sucked. They need to freaking back off and show more of the field. There is more to the game, than the one person with the ball. It was like watching the entire game through a telescope.

They also need to be still!

I now have motion sickness.xdizzyx

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 09:59 PM
On a technical note. Those camera operators sucked. They need to freaking back off and show more of the field. There is more to the game, than the one person with the ball. It was like watching the entire game through a telescope.

They also need to be still!

Please realize that these camera operators were operating for the scoreboard and not for the telecast. The SLC did not have their own camera operators and what the scoreboard folks are looking for are a bit different than the performance that you'd get on a televised game...

lassic
August 30th, 2007, 10:01 PM
Bomar under the center, they run
in shotgun, they pass
to easy to read

txstatebobcat
August 30th, 2007, 10:02 PM
this was...unexpected.

guess if you guys plan on "hangin 60," you should probably "hang 20" on a div. II team first. xlolx xthumbsupx xsmiley_wix


LOL. I had forgotten about the "hang 60" movement.

Seriously though, this game kind of reminded me of our 2005 season when we started by almost losing to Delta St. Everyone was pissed off. As a matter of fact I wasn't sure we had something special until the Texas A&M game.

In other words ugly games happen, just move on and make sure the next nine games are better than this one.

SFA 71
August 30th, 2007, 10:05 PM
this was...unexpected.

guess if you guys plan on "hangin 60," you should probably "hang 20" on a div. II team first. xlolx xthumbsupx xsmiley_wix

reconsidering the situation, I think it should be the "hang 4" movement. I'm on board for this upgrade.xthumbsupx

TexasTerror
August 30th, 2007, 10:06 PM
LOL. I had forgotten about the "hang 60" movement.

I wasn't on that movement. A win is a win. Simple as that and I want the Kats to win, no matter the point differential, points for and points against...


Seriously though, this game kind of reminded me of our 2005 season when we started by almost losing to Delta St. Everyone was pissed off. As a matter of fact I wasn't sure we had something special until the Texas A&M game.

In other words ugly games happen, just move on and make sure the next nine games are better than this one.

SFA dropped a Div II game last year and went on a roll later. Montana St dropped a Div II game and were in the playoffs last year. FCS programs have problems with Div II programs. A loss is pretty bad, but atleast a win is a win.

This is an eye-opener. I think things will be different against UAM next week and better be a complete 360 against North Dakota State. Time to work on special teams, putting pressure on the QB and making the big plays -- all things that Whitten said were his goals prior to the season.

McNeese75
August 30th, 2007, 10:40 PM
A W is a W but they better get a few things together or that trip to Fargo is going to be Ugleeeeeeeeeeee xeekx

patssle
August 30th, 2007, 11:10 PM
On a technical note. Those camera operators sucked. They need to freaking back off and show more of the field. There is more to the game, than the one person with the ball. It was like watching the entire game through a telescope.

As one of the camera operators..I can say we were not shooting for the webcast...we were shooting for the videoboard. 2 entirely different types of shooting. Videoboard is the #1 priority.

mikebigg
August 31st, 2007, 03:12 AM
Close game...surprised TT didn't somehow blame the SWAC!

3rd Coast Tiger
August 31st, 2007, 03:27 AM
HEY ALL YOU BEARKAT FANS STAY OUT OF THIS ONE PLEASE (this one's personal with Texas Terror)..
Close game...surprised TT didn't somehow blame the SWAC!

xlolx or blame this squeaker on Priscilla.

17 NCAA - NAIA 13

Hey TT, please tell me again how pathetic SWAC scheduling is? Oh yeah... an update on my school to will do too.

TexasTerror
August 31st, 2007, 08:31 AM
17 NCAA - NAIA 13

Angelo State plays Div II football -- you know, NCAA football. They play in the LSC with A&M Kingsville, West Texas A&M and the like.


Hey TT, please tell me again how pathetic SWAC scheduling is? Oh yeah... an update on my school to will do too.

SHSU always schedules one Div II school. Just how things are and that's fine. We have two this year because Missouri State pulled out in February or March which put us in a bind. At the very least, we are thankful to not be traveling to NAIAs and sub-Div I like our friends in the SWAC.

Still am shocked that a SWAC school would travel to a sub-Div I in any sport. Football and womens' basketball are on that list this yearly, but we always see it across the board with maybe the exception of mens' basketball. I'll actually get to see some SWAC action tonight.

As far as Texas Southern scheduling, you guys fill your two holes with FBS games. In 2008 when you have four holes, can we expect four FBS games? I'm serious on this. Blackwell needs to keep things in order now, doesn't he?

I could go on about TxSo and shortcomings there, but it's not worth my time or theirs (they have problems getting StatCrew operating by the beginning of action -- even when someone is looking for the "Asst SID" for an hour before game time, so I would not want to disrupt).

Real quick, TxSo losses to sub Div I programs since 2000...
2000: Morris Brown
2001: Morris Brown
2002: Stillman

Record against SLC since 2000: 0-4 (0-2 against Nicholls, 0-1 against TXST and McN)

gram4life
August 31st, 2007, 09:24 AM
xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

TexasTerror
August 31st, 2007, 09:32 AM
xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

Riddle me this, Grambling fan...why are you girls playing a womens basketball tournament at a NAIA? Langston and Xavier? Guess that was more feasible than two more guarantee games?

A win is a win. We got it. It stunk winning by that much and it was an eye opener. Playing games on the road against these sub-Div I teams is inexcusable whether it football, volleyball or basketball. All it does is show the lack of commitment by the SWAC to maintain their Division I status.

The SWAC needs to commit to standards -- both on the field and off (academically). Other conferences have done it. Why not the SWAC?

gram4life
August 31st, 2007, 09:58 AM
Riddle me this, Grambling fan...why are you girls playing a womens basketball tournament at a NAIA? Langston and Xavier? Guess that was more feasible than two more guarantee games?

A win is a win. We got it. It stunk winning by that much and it was an eye opener. Playing games on the road against these sub-Div I teams is inexcusable whether it football, volleyball or basketball. All it does is show the lack of commitment by the SWAC to maintain their Division I status.

The SWAC needs to commit to standards -- both on the field and off (academically). Other conferences have done it. Why not the SWAC?

xlolx oh you upset now so you move to women's bb, sad. xlolx If it was a SWAC team, you would have had more to say. Good for you on the win.

3rd Coast Tiger
August 31st, 2007, 09:59 AM
Thanks TT xthumbsupx

Right on que. Now my weekend has been made and I can rest in peace.

mikebigg
August 31st, 2007, 09:59 AM
Riddle me this, Grambling fan...why are you girls playing a womens basketball tournament at a NAIA? Langston and Xavier? Guess that was more feasible than two more guarantee games?

A win is a win. We got it. It stunk winning by that much and it was an eye opener. Playing games on the road against these sub-Div I teams is inexcusable whether it football, volleyball or basketball. All it does is show the lack of commitment by the SWAC to maintain their Division I status.

The SWAC needs to commit to standards -- both on the field and off (academically). Other conferences have done it. Why not the SWAC?

No...the reason we're playing them is because of past associations. Just like you guys scheduled Angelo State partly due to once being in their conference. Most likely the teams that we're playing are also HBCU's. Take it how you will, but our association with those schools will never end. At one time we too were NAIA and lower division NCAA... we (this is my opinion) have a responsibility as one of the "name" HBCU's to play other HBCU's (even if they are lower division).

Not making an excuse or trying to play a race card. Just pointing out to you that our ASSOCIATION with other HBCU's will never end...at least I hope not. I'm not so much in favor of playing lower divisions in football unless it's a unique and infrequent occurrence. However in the Title IX and other sports... I see no problem with playing those schools. In fact, I feel somewhat obligated to help those schools with a good payday... It's called "Lifting As We Climb".

TheRiver
August 31st, 2007, 10:00 AM
WOW TT you are a hatter I don't understand.

gram4life
August 31st, 2007, 10:06 AM
xlolx xlolx TT i guess it's ok for everyone else just not the SWAC huh.

TT says:

SFA dropped a Div II game last year and went on a roll later. Montana St dropped a Div II game and were in the playoffs last year. FCS programs have problems with Div II programs. A loss is pretty bad, but atleast a win is a win.

TexasTerror
August 31st, 2007, 10:09 AM
WOW TT you are a hatter I don't understand.

Nope, not a hater.

I like all that is HBCU sports having witnessed it first hand on several occasions, but I guess I have a problem separating the SWAC from the standards that other Division I conferences have set out both on the field of play and off of it.

Other conferences have statute of limitations across all sports as it relates to amount of home matches, amount of sub-Div I foes (none on the road allowed) and such. Throw in how these conferences are putting out their guidelines as it relates to all the academic sides of things and you have conferences sticking out their chest that they have this commitment to competing as much as they can at the Division I level.

The history and pageantry is great, but can't one do it while maintaining standards? Why is it only one or two conferences that can't keep their teams from going on the road to sub-Div I squads? You can play those squads to an amount within reason, but going on the road? Losing to these squads occurs every now and then -- but playing them on the road? It's just not Division I standards being met and that's without going into academics which I think all schools, especially those under NCAA warnings, can improve on...

People do not seem to understand, it is more about the lack of meeting standards. I'd blast any SLC school that played a road game at a Division II school in a heartbeat. I still do not understand why SHSU was playing road games at Division II schools until the mid 1990s. I'm assuming the SLC set out standards and they have since been met...

gram4life
August 31st, 2007, 10:12 AM
You keep trying to insert academics, so go ahead an say what you really feel. I guess this is your new MO to dig at SWAC schools now. xlolx xlolx xlolx

TexasTerror
August 31st, 2007, 10:20 AM
You keep trying to insert academics, so go ahead an say what you really feel. I guess this is your new MO to dig at SWAC schools now. xlolx xlolx xlolx

Academics is for all schools. I'm a very big proponent of the student before the athlete. The NCAA has done all sorts of things to put a priority in academics with all of these reports, new rules and such which I think are doing a great job.

If a school is getting penalized athletically for their inability to comply with the academic side of things, that's great. The NCAA's first job is to provide fair competition without comprising the academic job these institutions have before them.

Unfortunately, I think one of the biggest problems in some athletic departments is their ability to sufficiently provide the academic support staff in place (or in some cases, do an insufficient job of working with the academic supports in place at the institutions).

From friends in various athletic departments across the nation, with the new NCAA rules in place, it seems a far greater effort is being made by schools to catch up to where they should be as far as academic support staff, so I applaud them in the very necessary catching up that has to be done.

You will note, my thoughts on academics have nothing to do with the SWAC, but are very general thoughts on the Division I level as a whole. Academics is the #1 business of these schools (regardless of what some alums may think) and ultimately, I'd rather cheer for student-athletes obtaining degrees and being productive members of society...

gram4life
August 31st, 2007, 10:24 AM
The SWAC needs to commit to standards -- both on the field and off (academically). Other conferences have done it. Why not the SWAC?

TheRiver
August 31st, 2007, 10:27 AM
TT So what? Just to let you know you sound like a hatter because all i read form you is Hatten, and this tread has nothing to do with SWAC schools. So make a new thread if you want to hate, I was hopping to get some insight on SHSU vs. Angelo St game but I get this crap form you and the rest of the SWAC people.

Ok back on topic.

TexasTerror
August 31st, 2007, 10:28 AM
The SWAC needs to commit to standards -- both on the field and off (academically). Other conferences have done it. Why not the SWAC?

That was in regards to putting a plan out there as it relates to the conference standards and expectations.

I've seen two conferences do it in recent weeks and I think it speaks a lot of a conference's commitment to their athletics and academics in doing so...

Here's the Sun Belt's...

http://www.sunbeltsports.org/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=22245&SPID=1817&DB_OEM_ID=4100&ATCLID=1151032

I'll try to find the other one I found....

TexasTerror
August 31st, 2007, 10:31 AM
TT So what? Just to let you know you sound like a hatter because all i read form you is Hatten, and this tread has nothing to do with SWAC schools. So make a new thread if you want to hate, I was hopping to get some insight on SHSU vs. Angelo St game but I get this crap form you and the rest of the SWAC people.

SWAC folks came on here to talk about said topic...but we'll get back on topic as far as SHSU vs Angelo State...

Articles from around...

Barely, the Bearkats Win (Huntsville Item)
http://www.itemonline.com/cnhi/itemonline/sports/local_story_243011443.html?keyword=topstory

Bomar on Target for Sam Houston State (Houston Chronicle)
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/5097598.html

Atmosphere different, but results the same for Bomar (Huntsville Item)
http://www.itemonline.com/sports/local_story_243011203.html

TexasTerror
August 31st, 2007, 10:37 AM
Bright spots for the Kats...

Rhett Bomar went 16 of 24 for 204 yards. One TD and one INT in addition to an eight-yard scoring run.

Chris Poullard has 22 carries for 131 yards, a 6.0 yards per carry average. Poullard also had five catches for 71 yards.

Taylor Wilkins made a 30 yard FG in addition to two PATs

Michael Caparelli averaged over 50 yards per punt with two punts going for 105 yards for a 52.5 avg.

Nolan Bucek had nine tackles including one TFL and a pass broken up.

TexasTerror
August 31st, 2007, 10:38 AM
Game broken down by KatFans.com's "KatFan"...


Defense:

Chris Brown was impressive and will be a force this year. He had a nice open field tackle (one-on-one) to stop the Rams' 4th down attempt. He lined up on the left side and had our only sack (although he played on the right side most of the night). He will be double-teamed for the rest of the season, so someone else on the line needs to make an impact. Did anyone watch Branch closely?

DTs - I didn't watch the guys inside. I didn't get the impression that they dominated anyone, yet they might have played OK. Did anyone watch either of these guys?

Byran Richmond is as good as you guys have advertised. He made some big hits, plus he seemed to fill the holes and be in the right place several times. I really like this player.

LCB - Terrible - Our left CB position was burned at least twice and maybe 4 times depending on whose responsibility on the play. I couldn't make out their #s. The final time, it was #13 Brewer. (One of you in the game thread suggested #21 Brothers for another play). On 2 of the plays, such as the dropped touchdown pass early in the game, it is possible that the CB released to the FS making this the fault of Josh Moore. But, my gut feeling is that these were problems at CB, not FS. Opposing offenses will throw this way all season long after watching this game film.

Our CBs on the right side looked good the few times I zoned in on them.

LBs - no opinion. I just didn't watch them plus the game feed was not wide enough view to see what they were doing away from the ball.

Offense
Rhett does look really good. He will have a great season. #6 Darnell Jones looks good at WR. Also, I think Jones is the guy who was blocking on the right side to help Rhett score his touchdown run. Downfield blocking can get overlooked. But with a weapon like Rhett, this will turn 5 yard gains into 40 yard gains.

O-Line - Excellent job of pass blocking. Run blocking was good at times and average at times. I'd need to watch game film to have a strong opinion about the run blocking. Overall, this is a good unit.

RB - Poullard - looks pretty good. He seemed to have strong legs unless the Rams were simply doing a poor job of tackling a couple of times.

Coaching
Game plan was conservative (but not anywhere like a RR game plan). I didn't have too much problem with the overall game plan. I got the impression that TW wanted our offense to learn how to stay controlled and within itself. Otherwise, if you let Rhett turn into a gunslinger and choose every play whether to throw 15 yards or scramble and take off running, we would have won more convincingly (my opinion). We can rely of that gunslinging approach later in the season from time-to-time. But, for other close games, we'll need to know how to control the ball, keep everyone involved, and fine-tune the little things from this offense, fine-tune controlled-short passing which is important for 3rd down conversions, etc. TW might have felt we needed this type of game plan for game #1 to fine-tune the little things.

Late 1st half - horrible play calling. We have timeouts, good field position, and we are running the ball. We have one of the top QBs in the country, we aren't pinned deep, and we have time, yet you don't use one of the top weapons in the country? That is a terrible approach to a 2-minute offense in my opinion. (In essence, I was OK with the conservative calling earlier in the game, but not OK with this sequence of plays.)

4th & 10 on the Rams 40 - This is debateable to some, but I'd punt and pin the Rams inside the 15. If this was 4th and 4, OK maybe I take a shot. But, why play desperately? Pin them deep via the punt, which changes their play calling and maybe you get the ball back with good field position. Instead, if we are held (and we were), the Rams only need ONE first down to be in our territory and suddenly they have confidence and feel they can take momentum. This is exactly what happened and the Rams built confidence. I'd punt that ball next time with 10 yards to go.

Swing passes on 3rd down - Throw the ball past the 1st down marker on 3rd down, please. We tried the swing pass behind the line of scrimmage hoping Poullard would simply outrun someone one-on-one for 4-6 yards. Once it worked, once it failed. The time it worked, it should have failed. That was poor tackling by the Ram defender who appeared to easily have him wrapped up. In the SLC games, we'd have been 0-2 not 1-2 on those 2 plays.

Overall, it's a Win and we have enough strengths above that this team can show good improvement. But that was not a W to be proud of. Simply, it should increase our resolve to work, and work hard. There is a bunch of work to do.

http://www.katfans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5893

Panther88
August 31st, 2007, 10:57 AM
They took it e-z on you TT. Be thankful the guys have a heart and mind. lol

There's entirely TOO much material about SHSU I could expand on (due to my hometown proximity coupled w/ a relative lol who plays on the fball team ;) ).

I'll give it to you though... you've seemed to be abnormally quiet about the SWAC this year. lol

TexasTerror
August 31st, 2007, 11:09 AM
There's entirely TOO much material about SHSU I could expand on (due to my hometown proximity coupled w/ a relative lol who plays on the fball team ;) ).

It is a college institution -- there's always plenty of material out there. I was very active in Student Government and even caught SHSU violating a state regulation while a student, told them to no response. Passed legislation that went around the state, they sent a letter around the state calling me wrong in response and then ate their words when a legislator and the system got together. The life of a state institution!

Football-wise, the institution has really stepped up (SHSU, that is). It really is interesting that so many decisions really fall into who is in your administration and what they hold to be important -- seeing it a lot in the post-Katrina world here in NOLA.

Athletics is a very important part of things -- SHSU saw as much when their appearance in the NCAA tournament really boosted enrollment (largest attendance at a 'Saturday at Sam' event).

Time to turn things around, get a national title here in football in the next few years and really shoot up enrollment! SHSU needs to continue to have some strong recruiting classes, add in a few JUCO/FBS transfers and have a good balance to make things happen!

Panther88
August 31st, 2007, 11:31 AM
It is a college institution -- there's always plenty of material out there. I was very active in Student Government and even caught SHSU violating a state regulation while a student, told them to no response. Passed legislation that went around the state, they sent a letter around the state calling me wrong in response and then ate their words when a legislator and the system got together. The life of a state institution!

Football-wise, the institution has really stepped up (SHSU, that is). It really is interesting that so many decisions really fall into who is in your administration and what they hold to be important -- seeing it a lot in the post-Katrina world here in NOLA.

Athletics is a very important part of things -- SHSU saw as much when their appearance in the NCAA tournament really boosted enrollment (largest attendance at a 'Saturday at Sam' event).

Time to turn things around, get a national title here in football in the next few years and really shoot up enrollment! SHSU needs to continue to have some strong recruiting classes, add in a few JUCO/FBS transfers and have a good balance to make things happen!

No argument from me.

Earlier this week, we used SHSU as an example of what GOOD can occur if facilities are upgraded over a period of time. I was around when Bowers was still a paper-model and subsequently over the next 1.5 years (?), it was built in the late 80s if memory serves correct and I saw how "avg" talent was @ SHSU during that time. God forbid, we beat SHSU once during that time period there in the "old" stadium across from the school. lol But it's amazing how upgraded the talent is once those facilities were built and of course the divide between PVAMU and SHSU was made even greater facility wise and talent wise.

TheRiver
August 31st, 2007, 12:19 PM
Thanks TT, I give you a hard time, but thanks for saving my time, because i would have no idea were to find this Info, not much of a internet guy.