2021 AFCA Coaches pre-season Poll

[kdinva]

https://soconsports.com/news/2021/8/16/football-utc-vmi-ranked-in-afca-preseason-top-25.aspx

Rank, School (1st votes) Pts. *Rank
1. Sam Houston (18) 682 1
2. James Madison (9) 667 3
3. North Dakota State 633 5
4. South Dakota State (1) 620 2
5. Delaware 567 4
6. Weber State 552 8
7. North Dakota 475 6
8. Jacksonville State 437 7
9. Montana 436 NR
10. Southern Illinois 418 9
11. Montana State 383 NR
12. Monmouth (N.J.) 382 10
13. Central Arkansas 363 NR
14. Eastern Washington 287 11
15. Villanova 284 18
16. Northern Iowa 268 NR
17. Southeastern Louisiana 267 21
18. Chattanooga 204 NR
19. VMI 167 12
20. Kennesaw State 165 15
21. UC Davis 135 16
22. Richmond 104 14
23. Nicholls 88 23
24. North Carolina A&T 75 NR
25. Austin Peay 65 NR

* Ranking in final AFCA FCS Coaches Spring Poll of 2021

Others receiving votes: Murray State, 62; Missouri State, 39; Sacramento State, 39; New Hampshire, 31; Alabama A&M, 29; Samford, 18; Holy Cross, 16; Southern, 15; Alcorn State, 14; Florida A&M, 13; Stephen F. Austin, 11; ETSU, 10; Jackson State, 10; Morehead State, 9; Princeton, 9; South Carolina State, 9; Furman, 7; Charleston Southern, 6; Youngstown State, 6; Arkansas-Pine Bluff, 5; Harvard, 4; Rhode Island, 4; Davidson, 3; Yale, 3; Sacred Heart, 2; Eastern Kentucky, 1; Norfolk State, 1.

[Libertine]

For me, the true lunacy of these polls is always in the ORV section. For example, Morehead State hasn't finished higher than 3rd in the Pioneer standings since at least 2012 but has 3x the votes that last year's Pioneer champ, Davidson, has while perennial PFL power San Diego is completely ignored. Meanwhile, Norfolk State -- who hasn't finished above .500 in a full decade -- also gets a vote.

[Daytripper]

JSU too high. SLU too low. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

[caribbeanhen]

JSU too high. SLU too low. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

totally agree

- - - Updated - - -


For me, the true lunacy of these polls is always in the ORV section. For example, Morehead State hasn't finished higher than 3rd in the Pioneer standings since at least 2012 but has 3x the votes that last year's Pioneer champ, Davidson, has while perennial PFL power San Diego is completely ignored. Meanwhile, Norfolk State -- who hasn't finished above .500 in a full decade -- also gets a vote.

You’re making a lot of sense here

[ysubigred]

YSU 6 votes.. I'd like some of what those guy are smoking.. [emoji3060]

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Yale and Princeton are being way, WAY undervalued imo. I'd put both up against basically everyone past the Top 4 and have confidence it would be a 60 minute game....

[caribbeanhen]

Yale and Princeton are being way, WAY undervalued imo. I'd put both up against basically everyone past the Top 4 and have confidence it would be a 60 minute game....

and maybe Dartmouth, a few years ago they were easily a top 10 team

[POD Knows]

Yale and Princeton are being way, WAY undervalued imo. I'd put both up against basically everyone past the Top 4 and have confidence it would be a 60 minute game....Yea, well, we will never know, which is the problem.

[ysubigred]

Yea, well, we will never know, which is the problem.This^^ love how speculation and on paper players playing in their own leagues garner respect to be ranked in national polls..

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

[POD Knows]

This^^ love how speculation and on paper players playing in their own leagues garner respect to be ranked in national polls..

Sent from my SM-G965U using TapatalkI have had Princeton and Dartmouth in my AGS polls before, a couple years back they were both pretty good but the limits they place on scheduling has pretty much soured me on them, at least for now. I would like NDSU to have a H&H with one of the top Ivy teams but it is never going to happen.

[caribbeanhen]

I have had Princeton and Dartmouth in my AGS polls before, a couple years back they were both pretty good but the limits they place on scheduling has pretty much soured me on them, at least for now. I would like NDSU to have a H&H with one of the top Ivy teams but it is never going to happen.

You finally put em in your poll after being beat up for weeks, you were one of the last holdouts

Now admittedly, I don’t knowhow good they will be this fall but probably pretty good

hopefully they have a few OCC games to gauge

[POD Knows]

You finally put em in your poll after being beat up for weeks, you were one of the last holdouts

Now admittedly, I don’t knowhow good they will be this fall but probably pretty good

hopefully they have a few OCC games to gaugeDude, there are still a bunch of guys that exclude them from polls, I didn't put them in my polls until I had a chance to watch a couple of their games on ESPN3, I am not going to take it on faith that they are any good without looking at them because there is no way to measure them in their cloistered world.

[caribbeanhen]

Dude, there are still a bunch of guys that exclude them from polls, I didn't put them in my polls until I had a chance to watch a couple of their games on ESPN3, I am not going to take it on faith that they are any good without looking at them because there is no way to measure them in their cloistered world.

Dude? You stop that

You don’t have to take it on faith ....just listen to me xcoffeex

[POD Knows]

Dude? You stop that

You don’t have to take it on faith ....just listen to me xcoffeexMy Midwest/Flyover bias clouds my judgement over teams from the NE that have never proven anything. xnodx

[crusader11]

Yale and Princeton are being way, WAY undervalued imo. I'd put both up against basically everyone past the Top 4 and have confidence it would be a 60 minute game....

As others have said, hard to really know if this would be the case. Until the Ivies either join the playoffs or seriously challenge themselves in the OOC beyond the NEC and PL, it's a lot of conjecture.

It's a damn shame how myopic the Ivy presidents are. Some of the Yale, Dartmouth, Harvard, and Princeton teams over the past decade would have made deep runs in the playoffs. Just guessing here, but there are probably 30 or so guys in the NFL who are from the Ivy. I imagine that ranks pretty high when compared to all other FCS conferences.