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ursus arctos horribilis
July 27th, 2021, 10:54 AM
Last year we had a discussion and vote on how the names would be presented. Here is a review:

https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?243366-Team-Name-List-Changes-for-2020

There are also several other issues from another thread as far as how teams with "State" in the name want to be repped going forward.

https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?262333-AGS-Poll-Spring-2021&p=2949801&viewfull=1#post2949801

https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?262333-AGS-Poll-Spring-2021&p=2951225&viewfull=1#post2951225

https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?262333-AGS-Poll-Spring-2021&p=2951262&viewfull=1#post2951262

ursus arctos horribilis
July 27th, 2021, 10:54 AM
This is what 2019 looked like. I will post the 2020 list as it should have been if we had a season in the post after this one.

Big Sky
Cal Poly Mustangs
Eastern Washington Eagles
Idaho State Bengals
Idaho Vandals
Montana Grizzlies
Montana State Bobcats
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
Northern Colorado Bears
Portland State Vikings
Sac State Hornets
Southern Utah Thunderbirds
UC Davis Aggies
Weber State Wildcats

Big South
Campbell Fighting Camels
Charleston Southern Buccaneers
Gardner-Webb Runnin' Bulldogs
Hampton Pirates
Kennesaw State Owls
Monmouth Hawks
North Alabama Lions
Presbyterian Blue Hose

CAA
Albany Great Danes
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
Elon Phoenix
James Madison Dukes
Maine Black Bears
New Hampshire Wildcats
Rhode Island Rams
Richmond Spiders
Stony Brook Seawolves
Towson Tigers
Villanova Wildcats
William & Mary Tribe

Ivy League
Brown Bears
Columbia Lions
Cornell Big Red
Dartmouth Big Green
Harvard Crimson
Pennsylvania Quakers
Princeton Tigers
Yale Bulldogs

MEAC
Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
Delaware State Hornets
Florida A&M Rattlers
Howard Bison
Morgan State Bears
Norfolk State Spartans
North Carolina A&T Aggies
North Carolina Central Eagles
Savannah State Tigers
South Carolina State Bulldogs

MVFC
Illinois State Redbirds
Indiana State Sycamores
Missouri State Bears
North Dakota State Bison
Northern Iowa Panthers
South Dakota Coyotes
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
Southern Illinois Salukis
Western Illinois Leathernecks
Youngstown State Penguins

NEC
Bryant Bulldogs
Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
Duquesne Dukes
Long Island University Sharks
Merrimack Warriors
Robert Morris Colonials
Sacred Heart Pioneers
Saint Francis Red Flash
Wagner Seahawks

OVC
Austin Peay Governors
Eastern Illinois Panthers
Eastern Kentucky Colonels
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
Murray State Racers
Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
Tennessee State Tigers
Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks

Patriot League
Bucknell Bison
Colgate Raiders
Fordham Rams
Georgetown Hoyas
Holy Cross Crusaders
Lafayette Leopards
Lehigh Mountain Hawks

Pioneer League
Butler Bulldogs
Davidson Wildcats
Dayton Flyers
Drake Bulldogs
Jacksonville Dolphins
Marist Red Foxes
Morehead State Eagles
San Diego Toreros
Stetson Hatters
Valparaiso Crusaders

SoCon
Chattanooga Mocs
East Tennessee State Buccaneers
Furman Paladins
Mercer Bears
Samford Bulldogs
The Citadel Bulldogs
Virginia Military Institute Keydets
Western Carolina Catamounts
Wofford Terriers

Southland
Abilene Christian Wildcats
Central Arkansas Bears
Houston Baptist Huskies
Incarnate Word Cardinals
Lamar Cardinals
McNeese State Cowboys
Nicholls State Colonels
Northwestern State Demons
Sam Houston State Bearkats
Southeastern Louisiana Lions
Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks

SWAC
Alabama A&M Bulldogs
Alabama State Hornets
Alcorn State Braves
Arkansas Pine Bluff Golden Lions
Grambling State Tigers
Jackson State Tigers
Mississippi Valley State Delta Devils
Prairie View A&M Panthers
Southern Jaguars
Texas Southern Tigers


Independent
North Dakota Fighting Hawks -------> To MVFC in 2020

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Additions for the 2019 year will be:
Are there any?
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North Dakota is independent until next season unless someone has other info.
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I am including UNA under the schedules as a Big South member for 2019.

They will not be eligible for the AGS Poll until they are eligible for either their conference title or a national title when they complete their transition which unfortunately is not until 2022 according to their SID.
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Names to be pulled from the list(s) are:

Savannah State Tigers
Anyone else?
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Hampton is also a new member to the Big South for 2019 and have been added to that group.
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Presby is to remain in Big South until 2020 form what I see. Any other opinions on this one let me know.

http://www.pioneer-football.org/news...eague-in-2021/
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So with these issues out there for discussion what else am I missing? Are there any other teams going in or coming out or moving around for either the schedule or the AGS Poll for 2019?



**Original thread link for reference
https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?230413-2019-Team-Name-List-Need-Input

ursus arctos horribilis
July 27th, 2021, 10:55 AM
2020 - So this is roughly where we should have been until the pandemic took us all out of our games.

Big Sky
Cal Poly Mustangs
Eastern Washington Eagles
Idaho State Bengals
Idaho Vandals
Montana Grizzlies
Montana State Bobcats
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
Northern Colorado Bears
Portland State Vikings
Sac State Hornets
Southern Utah Thunderbirds
UC Davis Aggies
Weber State Wildcats

Big South
Campbell Fighting Camels
Charleston Southern Buccaneers
Gardner-Webb Runnin' Bulldogs
Hampton Pirates
Kennesaw State Owls
Monmouth Hawks
North Alabama Lions

CAA
Albany Great Danes
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
Elon Phoenix
James Madison Dukes
Maine Black Bears
New Hampshire Wildcats
Rhode Island Rams
Richmond Spiders
Stony Brook Seawolves
Towson Tigers
Villanova Wildcats
William & Mary Tribe

Ivy League
Brown Bears
Columbia Lions
Cornell Big Red
Dartmouth Big Green
Harvard Crimson
Pennsylvania Quakers
Princeton Tigers
Yale Bulldogs

MEAC
Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
Delaware State Hornets
Florida A&M Rattlers
Howard Bison
Morgan State Bears
Norfolk State Spartans
North Carolina A&T Aggies
North Carolina Central Eagles
Savannah State Tigers
South Carolina State Bulldogs

MVFC
Illinois State Redbirds
Indiana State Sycamores
Missouri State Bears
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
North Dakota State Bison
Northern Iowa Panthers
South Dakota Coyotes
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
Southern Illinois Salukis
Western Illinois Leathernecks
Youngstown State Penguins

NEC
Bryant Bulldogs
Central Connecticut State Blue Devils
Duquesne Dukes
Long Island University Sharks
Merrimack Warriors
Robert Morris Colonials
Sacred Heart Pioneers
Saint Francis Red Flash
Wagner Seahawks

OVC
Austin Peay Governors
Eastern Illinois Panthers
Eastern Kentucky Colonels
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
Murray State Racers
Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
Tennessee State Tigers
Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks

Patriot League
Bucknell Bison
Colgate Raiders
Fordham Rams
Georgetown Hoyas
Holy Cross Crusaders
Lafayette Leopards
Lehigh Mountain Hawks

Pioneer League
Butler Bulldogs
Davidson Wildcats
Dayton Flyers
Drake Bulldogs
Jacksonville Dolphins
Marist Red Foxes
Morehead State Eagles
Presbyterian Blue Hose
San Diego Toreros
----Stetson Hatters (out for 2021)
Valparaiso Crusaders

SoCon
Chattanooga Mocs
East Tennessee State Buccaneers
Furman Paladins
Mercer Bears
Samford Bulldogs
The Citadel Bulldogs
Virginia Military Institute Keydets
Western Carolina Catamounts
Wofford Terriers

Southland
Abilene Christian Wildcats
Central Arkansas Bears
Houston Baptist Huskies
Incarnate Word Cardinals
Lamar Cardinals
McNeese State Cowboys
Nicholls State Colonels
Northwestern State Demons
Sam Houston State Bearkats
Southeastern Louisiana Lions
Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks

SWAC
Alabama A&M Bulldogs
Alabama State Hornets
Alcorn State Braves
Arkansas Pine Bluff Golden Lions
Grambling State Tigers
Jackson State Tigers
Mississippi Valley State Delta Devils
Prairie View A&M Panthers
Southern Jaguars
Texas Southern Tigers

ursus arctos horribilis
July 27th, 2021, 11:12 AM
I always like working these things out as a community exercise here on the board so I will be updating the first post in the thread as changes are presented and and agreed on etc.

SHSU will change
Nichols will change
Grambling...McNeese? Need to work this out.

New conference(s) and teams will nee to be added and fixed up etc.

OhioHen
July 27th, 2021, 02:06 PM
I always like working these things out as a community exercise here on the board so I will be updating the first post in the thread as changes are presented and and agreed on etc.

SHSU will change
Nichols will change
Grambling...McNeese? Need to work this out.

New conference(s) and teams will nee to be added and fixed up etc.

I assume you'll include the second "l" in Nicholls.

For as long as I've been aware, Grambling has always been Grambling without the "State" in newspaper score lists and television mentions so it makes sense to drop "State" unless Tiger alums object.

McNeese recently is a mixed bag when looking at results in various places.

And even though the Bearkats want to be just Sam Houston, I will personally always abbreviate the school as SHSU (unless they prefer the acronym for Sam Houston Institute of Technology :D

Daytripper
July 27th, 2021, 02:14 PM
I assume you'll include the second "l" in Nicholls.

For as long as I've been aware, Grambling has always been Grambling without the "State" in newspaper score lists and television mentions so it makes sense to drop "State" unless Tiger alums object.

McNeese recently is a mixed bag when looking at results in various places.

And even though the Bearkats want to be just Sam Houston, I will personally always abbreviate the school as SHSU (unless they prefer the acronym for Sam Houston Institute of Technology :D

That's original...xrolleyesx

ursus arctos horribilis
July 27th, 2021, 02:26 PM
I assume you'll include the second "l" in Nicholls.

For as long as I've been aware, Grambling has always been Grambling without the "State" in newspaper score lists and television mentions so it makes sense to drop "State" unless Tiger alums object.

McNeese recently is a mixed bag when looking at results in various places.

And even though the Bearkats want to be just Sam Houston, I will personally always abbreviate the school as SHSU (unless they prefer the acronym for Sam Houston Institute of Technology :D

No, the single "l" was going to be my change.:)

DFW HOYA
July 27th, 2021, 02:35 PM
The Sam Houston web site still likes "State":

https://www.shsu.edu/

OhioHen
July 27th, 2021, 02:41 PM
That's original...xrolleyesx

Not trying to be original, but I WILL accede to the wishes of alums who prefer it to SHSU.

McCowboys
July 27th, 2021, 03:43 PM
I always like working these things out as a community exercise here on the board so I will be updating the first post in the thread as changes are presented and and agreed on etc.

SHSU will change
Nichols will change
Grambling...McNeese? Need to work this out.

New conference(s) and teams will nee to be added and fixed up etc.

I am pretty sure that most McNeese fans prefer just "McNeese," which is pronounced as in Mac.Neese*, in case anyone was wondering. When the McNeese baseball team qualified for the NCAA tournament, the selection show announced it as and the graphics showed McNeese and not "State."
I don't see how leaving off the state part would confuse anyone as to who is being referred to.


*McNeese is named for John McNeese, a Yankee from New York of Scottish descent who came to Louisiana after fighting for the Union in the Civil War.

katss07
July 27th, 2021, 04:44 PM
The Sam Houston web site still likes "State":

https://www.shsu.edu/
The institution’s name isn’t going to change. Any non-athletic branding will remain “Sam Houston State”, the official name of the school. Athletic teams have become simply “Sam Houston”, a change already made.

DFW HOYA
July 27th, 2021, 06:30 PM
The institution’s name isn’t going to change. Any non-athletic branding will remain “Sam Houston State”, the official name of the school. Athletic teams have become simply “Sam Houston”, a change already made.

Got it---thanks.

The Cats
July 27th, 2021, 06:41 PM
I'd take it from the Sam Houston Athletics' Department, this is taken from football game notes.....



What to call us

SAM HOUSTON - Although traditionally referred to as Sam Houston State, we ask that all media entities refer to our athletics teams as simply Sam Houston. Please only use Sam Houston State University when referring to the University in official capacity. If an abbreviation is needed, SHSU is acceptable. Please DO NOT use SH or SHS as abbreviations. Please DO NOT use references such as Sam Houston St., Sam Hou St. or any other variations. Our teams, both male and female, are to be referred to as Bearkats or simply Kats on second reference. Please DO NOT capitalize the K unless using only Kats.

aceinthehole
July 27th, 2021, 09:21 PM
The institution’s name isn’t going to change. Any non-athletic branding will remain “Sam Houston State”, the official name of the school. Athletic teams have become simply “Sam Houston”, a change already made.

CCSU did something similar, but less formal, a few years back when they updated athletic markings.

The university name remains Central Connecticut State University and CCSU is the only valid abbreviation allowed. However, our Athletics Department regularly uses "Central Connecticut", to refence athletic teams, the primary athletics logo omits the "State," and some of our the secondary marks include "CC"

https://ccsubluedevils.com/athletics/logos/CCSU_ID_MANUAL_May2011.pdf

Laker
July 27th, 2021, 09:25 PM
CCSU did something similar, but less formal, a few years back when they updated athletic markings.

The university name remains Central Connecticut State University and CCSU is the only valid abbreviation allowed. However, our Athletics Department regularly uses "Central Connecticut" in marketing, our primary athletics logo omits the reference to "State," and some of our the secondary marks include "CC"

https://ccsubluedevils.com/athletics/logos/CCSU_ID_MANUAL_May2011.pdf

Are they ever going to change the name to Connecticut State? That would be even better. I think that going from Mankato State University to Minnesota State-Mankato was a great improvement for us.

aceinthehole
July 27th, 2021, 09:47 PM
Are they ever going to change the name to Connecticut State? That would be even better. I think that going from Mankato State University to Minnesota State-Mankato was a great improvement for us.

Not anytime in the near future. :(

CCSU is now governed by the Connecticut State Colleges & Universities (CSCU) Board of Regents. This higher education system includes 4 state universities (Central, Eastern, Southern, and Western) and 12 community colleges - basically everyone except the UConn campuses.

https://www.ct.edu/about

McCowboys
July 28th, 2021, 05:00 AM
I'd take it from the Sam Houston Athletics' Department, this is taken from football game notes.....

I read somewhere (can't lay my hands on it) and have also heard it on one of McNeese's sports broadcasts something to the tune of this: The first time you refer to the team, McNeese State is proper. For subsequent references, McNeese is preferred.

ursus arctos horribilis
July 28th, 2021, 11:48 AM
I read somewhere (can't lay my hands on it) and have also heard it on one of McNeese's sports broadcasts something to the tune of this: The first time you refer to the team, McNeese State is proper. For subsequent references, McNeese is preferred.

That sounds like the treatment of other names in articles etc. so it makes sense.

First time is most professional/respectful and then more relaxes from then on is always the gist I took away from that.

OhioHen
August 4th, 2021, 02:43 PM
Don't forget to finally remove the Jacksonville Dolphins from the list!

ursus arctos horribilis
August 4th, 2021, 02:49 PM
Don't forget to finally remove the Jacksonville Dolphins from the list!

Damn, I'm glad you did this...I was in the middle of some poll stuff and was going to copy and past it over here. I copied it, then moved on to another thing apparently. xlolx

MR. CHICKEN
August 5th, 2021, 09:14 AM
That sounds like the treatment of other names in articles etc. so it makes sense.

First time is most professional/respectful and then more relaxes from then on is always the gist I took away from that.

.....LIKEWEESE.....DUH CHICKEN........FIRST GLANCE @ EYE CANDY.....HELLO MISS.......TA HONEY.......DARLIN'.....DOLL FACE........LET'S SWEAT ON EACH OTHERAH........BRAWK!

Professor Chaos
August 10th, 2021, 12:24 PM
Might as well update Valpo while you're at it.

https://twitter.com/ValpoU/status/1425121007585566722

DFW HOYA
August 10th, 2021, 01:06 PM
I probably won't be surprised if Valpo checks out of Division I. The enrollment trend is not favorable.

http://www.valpotorch.com/news/article_fd78a548-5460-11ea-9974-ef3972147944.html

ursus arctos horribilis
August 10th, 2021, 01:15 PM
.....LIKEWEESE.....DUH CHICKEN........FIRST GLANCE @ EYE CANDY.....HELLO MISS.......TA HONEY.......DARLIN'.....DOLL FACE........LET'S SWEAT ON EACH OTHERAH........BRAWK!

Bout time you got back on yer horse Wing Tea. xlolx

ursus arctos horribilis
August 21st, 2021, 04:22 PM
I am currently working on this list for the AGS Poll (slowly) and since this list is for AGS Poll it only includes teams eligible for the poll so make not of that.

Professor and OhioHen you both have access to amend this as well since you are assisting with AGS Poll duties this upcoming season. Please notice I am color marking changes for us all to see easily.

Ohio if you do any changes use a light blue and I suppose Prof you should use a light green. xlolx

Everyone can see this so comment on the thread if you would like to chime in on something I need to attend to yet but I am going through this thread and changing all we have settled on so far.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cJzy8lQZSdtO_vgj0JFDOGvIFV2YmR6yo-Z38CXzQYQ/edit#gid=2031002598

DFW HOYA
August 21st, 2021, 05:11 PM
Grambling is still Grambling State.

https://www.gram.edu/

https://gsutigers.com/

ursus arctos horribilis
August 21st, 2021, 05:42 PM
Grambling is still Grambling State.

https://www.gram.edu/

https://gsutigers.com/

Okay, I'll go change that back then. I was unsure on that one so figured I'd just go without it. I will err on the side of the sports departments. We've had a back and forth about a difference between the actual university name and what athletics wants to go by.

I sort of discarded the first link since it was the university site and the 2nd one I don't seem to get too much for access.

Turned the ad blocker off and I see the site and you have guided me correctly. Thanks Hoya.

ursus arctos horribilis
August 21st, 2021, 08:09 PM
So, is this our FCS alignment for 2021? This is what I have it as:

ASUN
Central Arkansas Bears
Eastern Kentucky Colonels
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
Kennesaw State Owls
North Alabama Lions

Big Sky
Cal Poly Mustangs
Eastern Washington Eagles
Idaho State Bengals
Idaho Vandals
Montana Grizzlies
Montana State Bobcats
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
Northern Colorado Bears
Portland State Vikings
Sac State Hornets
Southern Utah Thunderbirds
UC Davis Aggies
Weber State Wildcats

Big South
Campbell Fighting Camels
Charleston Southern Buccaneers
Gardner-Webb Runnin' Bulldogs
Monmouth Hawks
Presbyterian Blue Hose

CAA
Albany Great Danes
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
Elon Phoenix
James Madison Dukes
Maine Black Bears
New Hampshire Wildcats
Rhode Island Rams
Richmond Spiders
Stony Brook Seawolves
Towson Tigers
Villanova Wildcats
William & Mary Tribe

Ivy League
Brown Bears
Columbia Lions
Cornell Big Red
Dartmouth Big Green
Harvard Crimson
Pennsylvania Quakers
Princeton Tigers
Yale Bulldogs

MEAC
Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
Delaware State Hornets
Florida A&M Rattlers
Hampton Pirates
Howard Bison
Morgan State Bears
Norfolk State Spartans
North Carolina A&T Aggies
North Carolina Central Eagles
South Carolina State Bulldogs

MVFC
Illinois State Redbirds
Indiana State Sycamores
Missouri State Bears
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
North Dakota State Bison
Northern Iowa Panthers
South Dakota Coyotes
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
Southern Illinois Salukis
Western Illinois Leathernecks
Youngstown State Penguins

NEC
Bryant Bulldogs
Central Connecticut Blue Devils
Duquesne Dukes
Long Island University Sharks
Merrimack Warriors
Robert Morris Colonials
Sacred Heart Pioneers
Saint Francis Red Flash
Wagner Seahawks

OVC
Austin Peay Governors
Eastern Illinois Panthers
Murray State Racers
Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
Tennessee State Tigers
Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks

Patriot League
Bucknell Bison
Colgate Raiders
Fordham Rams
Georgetown Hoyas
Holy Cross Crusaders
Lafayette Leopards
Lehigh Mountain Hawks

Pioneer League
Butler Bulldogs
Davidson Wildcats
Dayton Flyers
Drake Bulldogs
Marist Red Foxes
Morehead State Eagles
San Diego Toreros
St. Thomas Tommies
Stetson Hatters
Valparaiso Beacons

SoCon
Chattanooga Mocs
East Tennessee State Buccaneers
Furman Paladins
Mercer Bears
Samford Bulldogs
The Citadel Bulldogs
Virginia Military Institute Keydets
Western Carolina Catamounts
Wofford Terriers

Southland
Houston Baptist Huskies
Incarnate Word Cardinals
McNeese Cowboys
Nicholls Colonels
Northwestern State Demons
Southeastern Louisiana Lions

SWAC
Alabama A&M Bulldogs
Alabama State Hornets
Alcorn State Braves
Arkansas Pine Bluff Golden Lions
Grambling State Tigers
Jackson State Tigers
Mississippi Valley State Delta Devils
Prairie View A&M Panthers
Southern Jaguars
Texas Southern Tigers

WAC
Abilene Christian Wildcats
Dixie State
Lamar Cardinals
Sam Houston Bearkats
Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
Tarleton Texans

Independent


I know the ASUN/WAC are combined for playoff purposes

Laker
August 21st, 2021, 09:00 PM
The only thing that I caught missing was the Trailblazers nickname for Dixie State.

When does the name change to Utah Tech?

ursus arctos horribilis
August 21st, 2021, 09:11 PM
The only thing that I caught missing was the Trailblazers nickname for Dixie State.

When does the name change to Utah Tech?

Good question, I'll have to check. I think I missed St. Thomas Tommies too. Aren't they Pioneer this year or is that next season?

Laker
August 21st, 2021, 10:08 PM
Good question, I'll have to check. I think I missed St. Thomas Tommies too. Aren't they Pioneer this year or is that next season?

The schedule appears to be FCS and Pioneer. One NAIA team, 1 D2 team, 9 FCS teams. Not sure when they are eligible for playoffs.

2021 Football Schedule - The University of St. Thomas (tommiesports.com) (https://tommiesports.com/sports/football/schedule/2021)

OhioHen
August 22nd, 2021, 05:31 AM
MEAC
Bethune-Cookman Wildcats --> SWAC
Delaware State Hornets
Florida A&M Rattlers --> SWAC
Hampton Pirates --> Big South
Howard Bison
Morgan State Bears
Norfolk State Spartans
North Carolina A&T Aggies --> Big South
North Carolina Central Eagles
South Carolina State Bulldogs

dgtw
August 22nd, 2021, 07:42 AM
Kennesaw and UNA are still Big South for football. Don’t think UNA is playoff eligible.


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caribbeanhen
August 22nd, 2021, 07:53 AM
MEAC
Bethune-Cookman Wildcats --> SWAC
Delaware State Hornets
Florida A&M Rattlers --> SWAC
Hampton Pirates --> Big South
Howard Bison
Morgan State Bears
Norfolk State Spartans
North Carolina A&T Aggies --> Big South
North Carolina Central Eagles
South Carolina State Bulldogs

this is what I thought as well

ursus arctos horribilis
August 22nd, 2021, 02:43 PM
MEAC
Bethune-Cookman Wildcats --> SWAC
Delaware State Hornets
Florida A&M Rattlers --> SWAC
Hampton Pirates --> Big South
Howard Bison
Morgan State Bears
Norfolk State Spartans
North Carolina A&T Aggies --> Big South
North Carolina Central Eagles
South Carolina State Bulldogs

Oh year, did yo go change them? I'll just go look but my sheet is a little disorganized now so maybe best if I just fix it. I have two lists going with one for conference alignment and then another one for AGS Poll consideration in case you did not recognize that.

ursus arctos horribilis
August 22nd, 2021, 02:44 PM
Kennesaw and UNA are still Big South for football. Don’t think UNA is playoff eligible.


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Oh no kidding? I looked at the ASUN Football and I thought they were listed on there for 2021 scedules...I better go check that again.

ursus arctos horribilis
August 22nd, 2021, 03:00 PM
Kennesaw and UNA are still Big South for football. Don’t think UNA is playoff eligible.


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I went and checked again and I looked at their (ASUN) Football Schedules and they do have them listed but so does Big South so I better fix that back.

https://asunsports.org/sports/football/index

ursus arctos horribilis
August 22nd, 2021, 03:28 PM
Revised Conference Alignment

2021 AGS Complete List By Conference


ASUN
Central Arkansas Bears
Eastern Kentucky Colonels
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
Kennesaw State Owls
North Alabama Lions

Big Sky
Cal Poly Mustangs
Eastern Washington Eagles
Idaho State Bengals
Idaho Vandals
Montana Grizzlies
Montana State Bobcats
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
Northern Colorado Bears
Portland State Vikings
Sac State Hornets
Southern Utah Thunderbirds
UC Davis Aggies
Weber State Wildcats

Big South
Campbell Fighting Camels
Charleston Southern Buccaneers
Gardner-Webb Runnin' Bulldogs
Hampton Pirates
Monmouth Hawks
North Carolina A&T Aggies
Presbyterian Blue Hose

CAA
Albany Great Danes
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
Elon Phoenix
James Madison Dukes
Maine Black Bears
New Hampshire Wildcats
Rhode Island Rams
Richmond Spiders
Stony Brook Seawolves
Towson Tigers
Villanova Wildcats
William & Mary Tribe

Ivy League
Brown Bears
Columbia Lions
Cornell Big Red
Dartmouth Big Green
Harvard Crimson
Pennsylvania Quakers
Princeton Tigers
Yale Bulldogs

MEAC
Delaware State Hornets
Howard Bison
Morgan State Bears
Norfolk State Spartans
North Carolina Central Eagles
South Carolina State Bulldogs

MVFC
Illinois State Redbirds
Indiana State Sycamores
Missouri State Bears
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
North Dakota State Bison
Northern Iowa Panthers
South Dakota Coyotes
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
Southern Illinois Salukis
Western Illinois Leathernecks
Youngstown State Penguins

NEC
Bryant Bulldogs
Central Connecticut Blue Devils
Duquesne Dukes
Long Island University Sharks
Merrimack Warriors
Robert Morris Colonials
Sacred Heart Pioneers
St. Francis Red Flash
Wagner Seahawks

OVC
Austin Peay Governors
Eastern Illinois Panthers
Murray State Racers
Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
Tennessee State Tigers
Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks

Patriot League
Bucknell Bison
Colgate Raiders
Fordham Rams
Georgetown Hoyas
Holy Cross Crusaders
Lafayette Leopards
Lehigh Mountain Hawks

Pioneer League
Butler Bulldogs
Davidson Wildcats
Dayton Flyers
Drake Bulldogs
Marist Red Foxes
Morehead State Eagles
San Diego Toreros
St. Thomas Tommies
Stetson Hatters
Valparaiso Beacons

SoCon
Chattanooga Mocs
East Tennessee State Buccaneers
Furman Paladins
Mercer Bears
Samford Bulldogs
The Citadel Bulldogs
Virginia Military Institute Keydets
Western Carolina Catamounts
Wofford Terriers

Southland
Houston Baptist Huskies
Incarnate Word Cardinals
McNeese Cowboys
Nicholls Colonels
Northwestern State Demons
Southeastern Louisiana Lions

SWAC
Alabama A&M Bulldogs
Alabama State Hornets
Alcorn State Braves
Arkansas Pine Bluff Golden Lions
Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
Florida A&M Rattlers
Grambling State Tigers
Jackson State Tigers
Mississippi Valley State Delta Devils
Prairie View A&M Panthers
Southern Jaguars
Texas Southern Tigers

WAC
Abilene Christian Wildcats
Dixie State
Lamar Cardinals
Sam Houston Bearkats
Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
Tarleton Texans

Independent
None in 21...

SDFS
August 22nd, 2021, 03:49 PM
The schedule appears to be FCS and Pioneer. One NAIA team, 1 D2 team, 9 FCS teams. Not sure when they are eligible for playoffs.

2021 Football Schedule - The University of St. Thomas (tommiesports.com) (https://tommiesports.com/sports/football/schedule/2021)

St. Thomas was picked to finish 8th in the Pioneer league preseason poll. So, it appears that they are member of Pioneer League.

Davidson received 97 of the maximum 100 points possible, with coaches unable to vote for their own team, with San Diego close behind at 93 points – making those two teams the clear frontrunners. Drake and Dayton round out the top four with 67 and 62 points, respectively.
Presbyterian, which will make its first run at the league title this season, got 59 points and a fifth-place nod from the league’s head coaches. Valparaiso (55 points) and Morehead State (51) followed in sixth and seventh place.
St. Thomas was picked to finish eighth (36 points) in its first PFL season. Marist and Stetson followed in a tie for ninth place (35 points each) with Butler (15) rounding out the 11-team poll.

ursus arctos horribilis
August 22nd, 2021, 04:05 PM
Are these teams eligible for conference titles in 2021?

Dixie State Trailblazers
Merrimack Warriors
North Alabama Lions
St. Thomas Tommies
Tarleton Texans

Preferred Walk-On
August 22nd, 2021, 04:45 PM
Revised Conference Alignment

2021 AGS Complete List By Conference


ASUN
Central Arkansas Bears
Eastern Kentucky Colonels
Jacksonville State Gamecocks
Kennesaw State Owls
North Alabama Lions

Big Sky
Cal Poly Mustangs
Eastern Washington Eagles
Idaho State Bengals
Idaho Vandals
Montana Grizzlies
Montana State Bobcats
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks
Northern Colorado Bears
Portland State Vikings
Sac State Hornets
Southern Utah Thunderbirds
UC Davis Aggies
Weber State Wildcats

Big South
Campbell Fighting Camels
Charleston Southern Buccaneers
Gardner-Webb Runnin' Bulldogs
Hampton Pirates
Monmouth Hawks
North Carolina A&T Aggies
Presbyterian Blue Hose

CAA
Albany Great Danes
Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens
Elon Phoenix
James Madison Dukes
Maine Black Bears
New Hampshire Wildcats
Rhode Island Rams
Richmond Spiders
Stony Brook Seawolves
Towson Tigers
Villanova Wildcats
William & Mary Tribe

Ivy League
Brown Bears
Columbia Lions
Cornell Big Red
Dartmouth Big Green
Harvard Crimson
Pennsylvania Quakers
Princeton Tigers
Yale Bulldogs

MEAC
Delaware State Hornets
Howard Bison
Morgan State Bears
Norfolk State Spartans
North Carolina Central Eagles
Savannah State Tigers
South Carolina State Bulldogs

MVFC
Illinois State Redbirds
Indiana State Sycamores
Missouri State Bears
North Dakota Fighting Hawks
North Dakota State Bison
Northern Iowa Panthers
South Dakota Coyotes
South Dakota State Jackrabbits
Southern Illinois Salukis
Western Illinois Leathernecks
Youngstown State Penguins

NEC
Bryant Bulldogs
Central Connecticut Blue Devils
Duquesne Dukes
Long Island University Sharks
Merrimack Warriors
Robert Morris Colonials
Sacred Heart Pioneers
St. Francis Red Flash
Wagner Seahawks

OVC
Austin Peay Governors
Eastern Illinois Panthers
Murray State Racers
Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
Tennessee State Tigers
Tennessee Tech Golden Eagles
Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks

Patriot League
Bucknell Bison
Colgate Raiders
Fordham Rams
Georgetown Hoyas
Holy Cross Crusaders
Lafayette Leopards
Lehigh Mountain Hawks

Pioneer League
Butler Bulldogs
Davidson Wildcats
Dayton Flyers
Drake Bulldogs
Jacksonville Dolphins
Marist Red Foxes
Morehead State Eagles
San Diego Toreros
St. Thomas Tommies
Stetson Hatters
Valparaiso Beacons

SoCon
Chattanooga Mocs
East Tennessee State Buccaneers
Furman Paladins
Mercer Bears
Samford Bulldogs
The Citadel Bulldogs
Virginia Military Institute Keydets
Western Carolina Catamounts
Wofford Terriers

Southland
Houston Baptist Huskies
Incarnate Word Cardinals
McNeese Cowboys
Nicholls Colonels
Northwestern State Demons
Southeastern Louisiana Lions

SWAC
Alabama A&M Bulldogs
Alabama State Hornets
Alcorn State Braves
Arkansas Pine Bluff Golden Lions
Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
Florida A&M Rattlers
Grambling State Tigers
Jackson State Tigers
Mississippi Valley State Delta Devils
Prairie View A&M Panthers
Southern Jaguars
Texas Southern Tigers

WAC
Abilene Christian Wildcats
Dixie State
Lamar Cardinals
Sam Houston Bearkats
Stephen F. Austin Lumberjacks
Tarleton Texans

Independent
None in 21...

I know someone has already pointed this out, but Jacksonville Dolphins are no more.

ursus arctos horribilis
August 22nd, 2021, 05:27 PM
The only thing that I caught missing was the Trailblazers nickname for Dixie State.

When does the name change to Utah Tech?

Latest articles on their athletics site call them Trailblazers so gotta assume that is correct.

https://dixiestateathletics.com/news/2021/8/5/football-trailblazers-open-fall-camp-on-friday.aspx

ursus arctos horribilis
August 22nd, 2021, 05:32 PM
I know someone has already pointed this out, but Jacksonville Dolphins are no more.

Yes sir, they are the bane of my existence apparently...or at least show some sloppy editing. xlolx I had them out earlier, somehow grabbed the list from an earlier comparison on my sheet. I corrected it fairly quickly but you got me before I did apparently.


I also had Sav St. in there...xlolx

ursus arctos horribilis
August 22nd, 2021, 05:35 PM
Are these teams eligible for conference titles in 2021?

Dixie State Trailblazers
Merrimack Warriors
North Alabama Lions
St. Thomas Tommies
Tarleton Texans

Edited this one in case anyone looked earlier.

ursus arctos horribilis
August 23rd, 2021, 12:30 PM
Nothing on this one today?

ursus arctos horribilis
August 23rd, 2021, 02:41 PM
From the Dixie State Schedule thread the answer to a couple of teams being in the AGS Poll is...


Both Tarleton and Dixie State are apparently in the AGS Poll this season. According to WAC Media Relations:
"They are eligible to be named WAC Champions but they are not eligible for selection to the FCS Playoffs."

aceinthehole
August 23rd, 2021, 03:19 PM
Merrimack is NOT eligible for the NEC AQ.

aceinthehole
August 23rd, 2021, 03:21 PM
Also, Robert Morris is no longer in the NEC. They should be listed in the Big South.

MR. CHICKEN
August 23rd, 2021, 04:06 PM
Merrimack is NOT eligible for the NEC AQ.

.....WARRIORS......AREN'T ELIGIBLE...FO' FCS PLAY-OFFS......TIL 2023......AWQ!

wapiti
August 23rd, 2021, 04:10 PM
Latest articles on their athletics site call them Trailblazers so gotta assume that is correct.

https://dixiestateathletics.com/news/2021/8/5/football-trailblazers-open-fall-camp-on-friday.aspx

I assume Trailblazers mascot will remain, but the Dixie State name is scheduled to be changed to Utah Tech. Still needs approval from Utah Legislature.

ursus arctos horribilis
August 23rd, 2021, 04:16 PM
.....WARRIORS......AREN'T ELIGIBLE...FO' FCS PLAY-OFFS......TIL 2023......AWQ!

Yes, I was inquiring about the NEC Title too though because like Dixie if they were eligible for that then they are in the poll. Unfortunately they are not eligible for NEC title either.

ursus arctos horribilis
August 23rd, 2021, 04:18 PM
I assume Trailblazers mascot will remain, but the Dixie State name is scheduled to be changed to Utah Tech. Still needs approval from Utah Legislature.

From previous posts that looks like it will change for next season probably.

Laker
August 23rd, 2021, 04:42 PM
I assume Trailblazers mascot will remain, but the Dixie State name is scheduled to be changed to Utah Tech. Still needs approval from Utah Legislature.

Now I'll have to buy a new hat.

ursus arctos horribilis
August 24th, 2021, 01:44 PM
Are these teams eligible for conference titles in 2021?

Dixie State Trailblazers
Merrimack Warriors
North Alabama Lions
St. Thomas Tommies
Tarleton Texans

As per PFL Media Relations:

St. Thomas is eligible for the PFL championship this season.

Now I think we have a new problem with AGS Poll that we should resolve.

Preferred Walk-On
November 1st, 2021, 09:39 AM
Was updating my "AGS Pick 5 Survival League" with the winners from Week 9, and I realized that I have been using Long Island Sharks (with "University" omitted). I was just wondering why in the official AGS poll naming list, Long Island (University) is the only one with "University" in the name and should a change be considered?

ursus arctos horribilis
November 1st, 2021, 10:35 AM
Was updating my "AGS Pick 5 Survival League" with the winners from Week 9, and I realized that I have been using Long Island Sharks (with "University" omitted). I was just wondering why in the official AGS poll naming list, Long Island (University) is the only one with "University" in the name and should a change be considered?

I'll hae to go look at this. If you think of it bump it up on Thurs. or Fri. but I will not be changing names on the poll until after the season is over now. Thanks for bringing it up as I never noticed or thought about it. Whenever I got the names I went to the official sources to see what they referred to themselves as.

aceinthehole
November 1st, 2021, 10:56 AM
Was updating my "AGS Pick 5 Survival League" with the winners from Week 9, and I realized that I have been using Long Island Sharks (with "University" omitted). I was just wondering why in the official AGS poll naming list, Long Island (University) is the only one with "University" in the name and should a change be considered?


FYI - "Long Island University" is the correct full reference, similar to "Boston College" and "Boston University"

Prior to the merger of the athletic departments, they most recently used "LIU-Brooklyn" and "LIU-Post"

Preferred Walk-On
November 1st, 2021, 11:19 AM
I'll hae to go look at this. If you think of it bump it up on Thurs. or Fri. but I will not be changing names on the poll until after the season is over now. Thanks for bringing it up as I never noticed or thought about it. Whenever I got the names I went to the official sources to see what they referred to themselves as.

No worries, and I did not expect any changes this season. It was more for my benefit trying to make sure my list is consistent with AGS's list, and I figured I'd post while I remembered.


FYI - "Long Island University" is the correct full reference, similar to "Boston College" and "Boston University"

Prior to the merger of the athletic departments, they most recently used "LIU-Brooklyn" and "LIU-Post"

Thanks for the explanation. If they are merged, then there is no need to have "-Brooklyn" or "-Post", but is there a reason to have "University" then either? Of course, "Long Island" would still be needed for identification, but in the case of "Boston College" and "Boston University", the additions are distinguishing. There is nothing to distinguish for Long Island (or am I missing something?).

North Dakota State University is the correct full reference as well (ignoring the North Dakota State University of Agriculture and Applied Science name, I have never seen them referred to as the NDS Bison, except here). This could probably be said for many (most) of the teams on the list where "University" is dropped. Just thought it was interesting that Long Island was the only team listed where "University" was still included in the name.