MVFC Megathread: 2021 Edition

[acbearkat]

312 yards passing already for Eastern Washington.


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[ysubigred]

That sounds right. And tackle is what you use for fishing.You're a great sport.. I think you and I both realize our teams are a shell of what they used to be..[emoji106] WIU may tackle worse than they defend the pass.. [emoji15]

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[ST_Lawson]

You're a great sport.. I think you and I both realize our teams are a shell of what they used to be..[emoji106]

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Yup, we both had a great time in the 90’s, but since then, wins have been generally few and far between.

[ysubigred]

Yup, we both had a great time in the 90’s, but since then, wins have been generally few and far between.Times are tough in the 61455 and 44555..

Lol [emoji38]

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[ST_Lawson]

Holy crap, we finally held them on a drive

[ysubigred]

Holy crap, we finally held them on a driveHere comes the Dawgs..

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[Roamingriz]

Aw he said one of the WIU RBs is the starman on offense. Now he just need to find a dayman and a nightman.....

[ST_Lawson]

Here comes the Dawgs..

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Baby steps. Still gotta remember how to move the ball ourselves.

[Chalupa Batman]

Eric Barriere on pace for 1000 yards passing and 12 TDs in this one.

He’s running out of gas? “Only” on pace for 974 yards now. Still on pace for 12 TD’s though.

[TheKingpin28]

Supposedly, that Baltimore heat and humidity are a big advantage for Towson. Clearly, the announcers forgot about Kansas St, Iowa St, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, etc... and that vaunted heat and humidity.

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[acbearkat]

Supposedly, that Baltimore heat and humidity are a big advantage for Towson. Clearly, the announcers forgot about Kansas St, Iowa St, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, etc... and that vaunted heat and humidity.

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Have they ever been to East Texas during the summer? Talk about heat and humidity.


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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Barriere at half: 24-30 487 yards 6 TDs

Geez!

[TheKingpin28]

Have they ever been to East Texas during the summer? Talk about heat and humidity.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDoes Mississippi Valley State, Nicholls St, Northwestern St, SHSU, Georgia Southern, or SFA count?

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[ST_Lawson]

Supposedly, that Baltimore heat and humidity are a big advantage for Towson. Clearly, the announcers forgot about Kansas St, Iowa St, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, etc... and that vaunted heat and humidity.

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Highest dew point ever recorded in the US was in Appleton, WI. We might not do it as long as down south, but we are familiar with humidity.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

67 yard TD for Watson!!

[TheKingpin28]

Highest dew point ever recorded in the US was in Appleton, WI. We might not do it as long as down south, but we are familiar with humidity.Yep. I tell people this, I've spent time in New Orleans in August and time in Fargo in August, and they both felt the same to me: miserable and felt like ****ing soup after about 2 minutes outside.

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[ysubigred]

Yep. I tell people this, I've spent time in New Orleans in August and time in Fargo in August, and they both felt the same to me: miserable and felt like ****ing soup after about 2 minutes outside.

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[TheKingpin28]

Hottest place on earth to me.. Fort Benning GA..

Sent from my SM-G965U using TapatalkNever been there but I know Georgia becomes unbearable at times.

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[dewey]

I signed up with Flosports. $12.50 per month.

Dewey

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Bison can run on this defense all day!!!!


Bison on the Towson 2 ......


Steamroll this team!!

Bison up 19-0

[TheKingpin28]

I signed up with Flosports. $12.50 per month.

DeweyThat's the yearly plan. It's 19.99 per month. I feel dirty paying that price, but it's good to see NDSU make these announcers lose all hope.

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[TheKingpin28]

The announcer saying By-cen is actually irritating me more, than paying 19.99 for this game.

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[ST_Lawson]

EWU QB Barriere limped out of the game with WIU. Looks like just a cramp

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Safety for the Bison.

21-0

Bison wouldn't have to throw a pass against this defense....

[POD Knows]

Safety for the Bison.

21-0

Bison wouldn't have to throw a pass against this defense....I am listening to this game on the radio, how is it even this close, it sounds like 50-0. Gave away a TD on that 1st and goal interception, but Bison seem to be completely dominating. Should have ran the ball on that first and goal, stupid play call.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I am listening to this game on the radio, how is it even this close, it sounds like 50-0. Gave away a TD on that 1st and goal interception, but Bison seem to be completely dominating. Should have ran the ball on that first and goal, stupid play call.


Towson is not rotating on defense. They are gassed already

Geez.....go for the throat!! Piss poor clock management by the Bison....xrolleyesx

[dewey]

I am listening to this game on the radio, how is it even this close, it sounds like 50-0. Gave away a TD on that 1st and goal interception, but Bison seem to be completely dominating. Should have ran the ball on that first and goal, stupid play call.

This could literally be 28 to 35-0 NDSU. Dominating effort in the 1st half.

Dewey

[POD Knows]

Phil Hanson on 1660 pretty critical of this 2 minute drill by NDSU.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Phil Hanson on 1660 pretty critical of this 2 minute drill by NDSU.

Roehl calls a pass and they get sacked....xrolleyesx

[POD Knows]

JFC NDSU bury these ****ers. WTF.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Geez.....poor play calling....

Piss poor series and play calling....wow!

49 yard FG..........missed

[POD Knows]

Completely dominated this game and up by 21, this game should be over but it isn't. Pretty sloppy at the end and the special teams were a disaster, D played freaking great.

[Lorne_Malvo]

That's the yearly plan. It's 19.99 per month. I feel dirty paying that price, but it's good to see NDSU make these announcers lose all hope.

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It was 12.99 per month if you used the caa link.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Completely dominated this game and up by 19, this game should be over but it isn't. Pretty sloppy at the end and the special teams were a disaster, D played freaking great.


Bison steamrolling them 349-50 in total yards. Bison get the ball to start the 2nd. Run them into the ground!

[caribbeanhen]

Towson and 75 percent of the CAA sucks balls

[POD Knows]

Bison steamrolling them 349-50 in total yards. Bison get the ball to start the 2nd. Run them into the ground!Should be 35 to 0, gave away 5 points on that interception deal (7-2), got nothing on that final 2 minutes and a few extra team points. But it sounds like for one play and that circle jerk in the final two minutes, the offense played great and the D was A+++

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Should be 35 to 0, gave away 5 points on that interception deal (7-2), got nothing on that final 2 minutes and a few extra team points. But it sounds like for one play and that circle jerk in the final two minutes, the offense played great and the D was A+++




Defense is playing well. Last 2 minutes sucked but overall it was a very good performance!!

[TheKingpin28]

It was 12.99 per month if you used the caa link.Ah, well damn, I messed up there.

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[Houndawg]

Hottest place on earth to me.. Fort Benning GA..

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Ft. Polk, LA

[POD Knows]

Entz pissed during the halftime interview, hilarious interview about the special teams practicing snapping the ball in a swimming pool or something.

[Puddin Tane]

90 degrees in Colorado today. NoCo announcers made it sound like they were playing on the sun.

[ysubigred]

Ft. Polk, LADid a quick stop there.. not in the summer months.

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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Bison score to open the half: 28-0

Run it right down their throat!!


Total yards now:

Bison 412
Towson 48

xthumbsupx

[dewey]

Phil Hanson on 1660 pretty critical of this 2 minute drill by NDSU.

The 2 minute drill was not very good.

Dewey

[dewey]

After a decent drive by Towson NDSU forces 4th and 13 or so.

The best drive by Towson and they have 98 yards of offense.

Big games upcoming against GFCC, UNI and the big one against SDSU.

Dewey

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Bison score:

35-0

310 yards rushing so far. 2nds in on the OL now.....and still running thru Towson....xnodx

[POD Knows]

The 2 minute drill was not very good.

DeweyWe seem to have an issue with this regardless of who is coaching, kind of strange.

[Prime Power]

Ft. Polk, LA

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[mmiller_34]

No one is going to beat USD again this year. Just give them the trophy.

[Houndawg]

Did a quick stop there.. not in the summer months.

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summer '76 was so hot that Post Laundry stopped putting starch in fatigues

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

No one is going to beat USD again this year. Just give them the trophy.


They'd roll Alabama

[Houndawg]

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Dry heat... ;)

[POD Knows]

Towson is ****ing calling timeouts with a minute left in the game, score 35-7, NDSU should put the starters back on the field seeing as how we are still playing a game.

[mmiller_34]

USD on pace for 1100 yards of offense after 1 quarter of play.

[POD Knows]

If my math is correct, as we speak, the MVFC is 14-2 against FCS OOC opponents and both of those losses are WIU.

[mmiller_34]

If my math is correct, as we speak, the MVFC is 14-2 against FCS OOC opponents and both of those losses are WIU.

They need to be relegated to the Pioneer.

[POD Knows]

They need to be relegated to the Pioneer.
Yea. They do. We got one to many teams as it is.

[ysubigred]

summer '76 was so hot that Post Laundry stopped putting starch in fatiguesI was there in November 87. I've heard from some of the JTF guys Polk was hott..

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[mmiller_34]

TD Yotes. Jfc this is out of control.

[Prime Power]

Dry heat... ;)

Absolutely NOT a dry heat.

[mmiller_34]

The ending of the Indiana State game was incredible. TD on last second play -- will probably be on SportsCenter top 10.

There's fight in those sycamores.

[Houndawg]

I was there in November 87. I've heard from some of the JTF guys Polk was hott..

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We were still in WW2 barracks for a year after I arrived. One fan on each floor

[ysubigred]

We were still in WW2 barracks for a year after I arrived. One fan on each floorWow.. got treated like that at Fort Bragg in 88..

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[skinny_uncle]

We were still in WW2 barracks for a year after I arrived. One fan on each floor

I had some classes in those barracks back in the '70s.

[JayJ79]

The announcer saying By-cen is actually irritating me more, than paying 19.99 for this game.

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proper English (and American) pronunciation.

[TheKingpin28]

proper English (and American) pronunciation.Pronounce "prison" then. See what happens when you take out the PR and change it to the B. Correct enunciation of the word is "Bye-zuhn" and "Pri-zuhn"

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[ST_Lawson]

They need to be relegated to the Pioneer.

Oh come on man. We go up against two top 10 FCS teams and one of the better G5 FBS teams and are competitive in two of those games. Sure, we’re not likely to be in the top 25 this season, but we’re better than we have been the last couple of years.

[clenz]

UNI was disappointing the Valley today.

Gave up 105 yards against St Thomas at a killer 1.8 yards per play


In all honesty I can complain the offense wasn’t more efficient but the last time UNI didn’t have to press the full game to win was a very long time ago. There were a handful of drops that add a ton of points to UNI total because they keep drives going. Day was clearly hopped up on adrenaline with it being a first start and at home and missed throws that his tape, and last week, show he makes normally.

So anything I want to complain about does t make sense.

7 ypc on the ground and the three main tailbacks, plus day, were a nearly 10 ypc.

Day was 18-31 for 193. Only took one or two actual deep shots. Everything was a curl or in/out route so the average was going to be low.

There likely was very little actual game plan in place. Everything looked very base vanilla offense and defense.

4 turnovers forced with 3 picks
6 more PBU that 3 off very easily could have been picked if another inch or two either direction


The one complaint I have is 10 penalties. I bet half were false starts. Gotta get that cleaned up.


UST is probably better than a couple PFL teams but are in for a very rude awakening over the next few years as they get body bagged

The game wasn’t nearly as “pretty” as you’d see NDSu or SDSU do too similar opponents (last week) but the game was every bit as over from the first kick as those. It’s nice playing a game like this one and a while. I’m glad UNIs as finally figured that out for scheduling


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[ysubigred]

Oh come on man. We go up against two top 10 FCS teams and one of the better G5 FBS teams and are competitive in two of those games. Sure, we’re not likely to be in the top 25 this season, but we’re better than we have been the last couple of years.Yup.. millers tampon must be loose.. [emoji1787]

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[Sycamore62]

The ending of the Indiana State game was incredible. TD on last second play -- will probably be on SportsCenter top 10.

There's fight in those sycamores.
It would be cool to wake up on the goal line to find out you just won the game for your team.

https://twitter.com/indstfb/status/1439412580687261698?s=21

[Sycamore62]

Another angle. Looked painful
https://twitter.com/indstfb/status/1439434780525928453?s=21

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Another angle. Looked painful
https://twitter.com/indstfb/status/1439434780525928453?s=21

[Professor Chaos]

MVFC now 17-2 vs OOC FCS competition.

MVFC teams not named Western Illinois: 17-0

[Professor Chaos]

It would be cool to wake up on the goal line to find out you just won the game for your team.

https://twitter.com/indstfb/status/1439412580687261698?s=21
Wow!!!!!!!

This makes that Terrell Owens catch in the 1998 playoffs for San Fran look weak.

[Puddin Tane]

Oh come on man. We go up against two top 10 FCS teams and one of the better G5 FBS teams and are competitive in two of those games. Sure, we’re not likely to be in the top 25 this season, but we’re better than we have been the last couple of years.

instead of playing real games, yall should be playing drake, st thomas, butler, valpo, dayton, lindenwod, etc…

they need to ease up on Lamar North!

[Puddin Tane]

The “kickoff” before that last score xlolx. Dude, you got one job…..

[clenz]

instead of playing real games, yall should be playing drake, st thomas, butler, valpo, dayton, lindenwod, etc…
1. This was UNI's first "body bag" game in about 8 years. UNI's OOC opponents have be H/H with Montana, EWU, Weber State, Sac State, Cal Poly, SUU, games against McNeese State, etc. UNI has played a top 5 SOS in Massey for the last decade. GTFO with that ****.

2. WIU is the buy game team. They can't afford to buy games. I'll be honest, I'm shocked they can afford to play games on days where lights are required. When another FCS power conference wants to schedule another power conference team without getting the power conference opponent WIU is that team out of the Valley (to a similar extent you could argue ISUb or MSU over the years).

3. WIU isn't good. They are legitimately a bottom 2 or 3 MVFC team this year. They could be greatly improved from 2019/the spring but look the **** around the Valley. Who are you putting them in front of?

NDSU? no
SDSU? no
SIU? no
MSU? no
UNI? no
USD? no
UND? no

Those are all teams that are going to be in the top 25 come Monday. Hell, I'd be all but one of them end up in the top 15-20 - NDSU, SDSU, SIU, UNI, UND, and MSU were all already in the top 16 of the AGS poll. USD came in at 31 and I would be shocked as **** if they didn't jump to nearly top 20. They've skull ****ed 2 Big Sky teams (one of whom just beat a P12 team) and should have had their B12 opponent beat.

Honest question for you - why in the flying hell should any of those teams go out and play top 10 or 15 ranked OOC games at all, let alone two of them, on top of an FBS team when we are already going to be playing 6 or 7 ranked teams in conference play?

Sure, when you play in a **** conference and get to play 1 or 2 ranked teams a year it can be "fun" to go halfway across the country to play a game that's physical as **** against a top 10 OOC opponent. When that is literally just a normal week for you, why would you need, or want, to do that in the OOC?

[JayJ79]

Pronounce "prison" then. See what happens when you take out the PR and change it to the B. Correct enunciation of the word is "Bye-zuhn" and "Pri-zuhn"

so you pronounce "prison" as "prye-zuhn"?
that's weird.

[BeamMeUp]

MVFC now 17-2 vs OOC FCS competition.

MVFC teams not named Western Illinois: 17-0
Just checked scores from yesterday and see Incarnate Word had a big win over FBS TX State. Can’t say I am terribly surprised as they were impressive offensively. I am happy YSU has that Incarnate Word victory on its resume.

Congratulations Indiana State on an exciting win for the league!

[TheKingpin28]

so you pronounce "prison" as "prye-zuhn"?
that's weird.I pronounce it as prih-zuhn. Strange that the last 4 letters are the same, yet a good amount of people want to change the pronunciation of them.

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[mmiller_34]

instead of playing real games, yall should be playing drake, st thomas, butler, valpo, dayton, lindenwod, etc…

they need to ease up on Lamar North!



Exactly. Not sure what they're doing 😂


Another angle. Looked painfulhttps://twitter.com/indstfb/status/1439434780525928453?s=21


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Another angle. Looked painful
https://twitter.com/indstfb/status/1439434780525928453?s=21

Amazing.

Another amazing thing was that EKU squib kicked the kickoff with a minute left and ISU got the ball at the 50.... While EKU was up just 3 points.. 🤔


Oh come on man. We go up against two top 10 FCS teams and one of the better G5 FBS teams and are competitive in two of those games. Sure, we’re not likely to be in the top 25 this season, but we’re better than we have been the last couple of years.

Nope. Don't want to hear your very reasonable and logical explanation. Only WIU cost has cost us OOC perfection thus far.🤣

[JacksFan40]

MVFC now 17-2 vs OOC FCS competition.

MVFC teams not named Western Illinois: 17-0
I also believe SDSU is the only MVFC team to not contribute to this record in either category.

[SDFS]

NDSU? no
SDSU? no
SIU? no
MSU? no
UNI? no
USD? no
UND? no



An interesting observation from the list you have provided? Do you think the CoA which was started 5 years ago is starting to show itself. You are now starting to see complete rosters which were recruited with CoA. I know that all of the Dakota's (USD, UND, SDSU, NDSU) offer CoA. I think that UNI does and it looks like some CAA schools do. But, I am not sure how prevalent CoA is across FCS football. So, now you are seeing very lopsided results in nonconference play. Just a thought.

Covering cost of attendance is a major financial challenge for FCS members, which can offer 63 scholarships. JMU, W&M and UR for FCS football competition belong to the CAA, which does not have a policy for cost of attendance. Delaware does provide COA in football. JMU will. Most CAA football programs do not.

[clenz]

I pronounce it as prih-zuhn. Strange that the last 4 letters are the same, yet a good amount of people want to change the pronunciation of them.

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The difference is the hard I vs soft I sound in the word. Generally you aren't seeing bunch of soft I sounds followed by a soft S nor a bunch of hard I sounds followed by a hard s

Words can be spelled similar all they want, when vowel sounds change it can change the rest of the word to sound differently and change the sound of the consonants around them.

The english language is ****ed up

[Redbird 4th & short]

I dont think my 2-0 ISUr would beat the 0-2 WIU right now.. so theyve got that going for them ... which is not quite as nice as getting total consciousness on your death bed.

= D

[POD Knows]

I dont think my 2-0 ISUr would beat the 0-2 WIU right now.. so theyve got that going for them ... which is not quite as nice as getting total consciousness on your death bed.

= DI watched some of this game, can ISU throw the ball at all?? I haven't seen any of your other games but you guys look real one dimensional on offense.

[Redbird 4th & short]

I watched some of this game, can ISU throw the ball at all?? I haven't seen any of your other games but you guys look real one dimensional on offense.

Not much different than how we finished 2019, right ? Except we had a great defense and James Robinson carrying the offense.

But no, not reliably at this point .. but it doesn't take much for Spack to get ultra conservative in pass game. Bryce Jefferson has true dual threat skills and is very comfortable and good in the pocket .. except from one huge BUTT ... he makes bad passing decisions under pressure. So now he is on lockdown game plan and we are already platooning him with true FR Jackson Waring. Spack has rarely succeeded at recruiting and developing his own HS QB.

Other issue is OL is questionable at this point .. we have very good young RBs ... Cole Mueller is latest to show well. But Phaleak Brown, and Nigel White have also shown well .. all are RS FR and at least one will emerge as a stud.

Defense took way too many losses from 2019.'

Going to be very tough year ... was thinking 5-6, now thinking 4-7.

[Bisonator]

The difference is the hard I vs soft I sound in the word. Generally you aren't seeing bunch of soft I sounds followed by a soft S nor a bunch of hard I sounds followed by a hard s

Words can be spelled similar all they want, when vowel sounds change it can change the rest of the word to sound differently and change the sound of the consonants around them.

The english language is ****ed up
How do you pronounce Andre Rison's last name?

[clenz]

How do you pronounce Andre Rison's last name?

Is it using a hard or soft I sound?


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[Bisonator]

Is it using a hard or soft I sound?


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How about is the sun rising?

[JayJ79]

I pronounce it as prih-zuhn. Strange that the last 4 letters are the same, yet a good amount of people want to change the pronunciation of them.
"Lead" (opposite of follow) and "Lead" (the metal) have the exact same letters, yet are pronounced differently.

[SteelSD]

instead of playing real games, yall should be playing Texas-Permian Basin, Kentucky Christian, Bethel, etc…

they need to ease up on Lamar North!




Fixed it for you.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

My top 5 Valley teams from what I have seen so far:

1. SDSU
2. NDSU
3. UND
4. SIU
5. UNI

[Professor Chaos]

My top 5 Valley teams from what I have seen so far:

1. SDSU
2. NDSU
3. UND
4. SIU
5. UNI
It's going to be interesting seeing who sinks and who swims once conference play starts. Missouri St and South Dakota both look like they could be potential playoff caliber teams (and they play each other this weekend). Even both ISUs might be able to make some noise but the Trees have SDSU this weekend and the Birds have Southern Illinois so we'll find out in a hurry whether they're capable of challenging the top half of the league.

[Sycamore62]

It's going to be interesting seeing who sinks and who swims once conference play starts. Missouri St and South Dakota both look like they could be potential playoff caliber teams (and they play each other this weekend). Even both ISUs might be able to make some noise but the Trees have SDSU this weekend and the Birds have Southern Illinois so we'll find out in a hurry whether they're capable of challenging the top half of the league.

I would be shocked if ISUb was even in the game in the 2nd qtr. they have a solid defense and zero offense. they changed to the qb we played with in 2019 after 3 games with the NIU transfer. he was supposed to have a good run threat. I think his passing accuracy was questionable, just really close to being good, like overthrowing the deep ball by a step and not hitting a lot of crossing patterns in stride. I think Wilderman (the new old qb) is probably slightly less mobile and has a better arm. im not sure any of them would start on any other MVFC team (although I havent seen all of them).

[F'N Hawks]

It's going to be interesting seeing who sinks and who swims once conference play starts. Missouri St and South Dakota both look like they could be potential playoff caliber teams (and they play each other this weekend). Even both ISUs might be able to make some noise but the Trees have SDSU this weekend and the Birds have Southern Illinois so we'll find out in a hurry whether they're capable of challenging the top half of the league.

if UND doesn't get their sh&t together soon they will be sinking hard. Two weeks from now might be ugly.

[Chalupa Batman]

if UND doesn't get their sh&t together soon they will be sinking hard. Two weeks from now might be ugly.

The two games after that won't be doing you any favors either. Not exactly a warm welcome to the Meatgrinder Valley Football Conference.

[Chalupa Batman]

My top 5 Valley teams from what I have seen so far:

1. SDSU
2. NDSU
3. UND
4. SIU
5. UNI

I have been impressed by SIU so far, I would actually have them ahead of us by a hair (that's with me having not watched the Towson game).

[F'N Hawks]

My top 5 Valley teams from what I have seen so far:

1. SDSU
2. NDSU
3. UND
4. SIU
5. UNI

UND is in the 6-7 range. Spring season was a smoke screen and they lost a couple lineman that left a big hole on the inside.

[SDFS]

UND is in the 6-7 range. Spring season was a smoke screen and they lost a couple lineman that left a big hole on the inside.

Agree - MSU and USD deserve to be in front of UND right now. The Drake game was a mess, 5 turnovers, false starts, holding.. in general they are complete mess. You start on the 1 yard line... first down false start.... first down again - fumble. How do you start on the 1 yard line against Drake and not score? UND should be thought of as a potentially good team. Plus, I think teams are starting to get used to the offense. Lots of motion, followed by quick throws on crossing routes. There is no ability to stretch the field. If your team has good safeties, they will get picks.

[Sioux24/7]

I hate ragging on UND but I think you guys are right. As of right now, UND is a middle of the pack team in the Valley. Maybe things change in the next two weeks with the bye leading into the NDSU game but the season could really take an ugly turn if things aren’t cleaned up.

[dewey]

My top 5 Valley teams from what I have seen so far:

1. SDSU
2. NDSU
3. UND
4. SIU
5. UNI

I would switch up SIU and that school North of Fargo but otherwise I agree.

Dewey

[Redbird 4th & short]

It's going to be interesting seeing who sinks and who swims once conference play starts. Missouri St and South Dakota both look like they could be potential playoff caliber teams (and they play each other this weekend). Even both ISUs might be able to make some noise but the Trees have SDSU this weekend and the Birds have Southern Illinois so we'll find out in a hurry whether they're capable of challenging the top half of the league.

Don't hold your breath for ISUr this fall ... I think 3-5 in MVFC is high end, but 2-6 is more likely.

I think MVFC breaks down like this so far:

- Tier 1 is SDSU, NDSU, SIU.

- Tier 2 is UNI, MoST, UND, USD

- Tier 3 is ISUr, WIU, YSU, ISUb.

Based on week 2, it looks like a 6 bid year is very possible.

[acbearkat]

Speaking of Western Illinois’ broadcast crew, at Sam, we have a professional calling the games in Tom Franklin, the former radio voice for the University of Houston, but the audio quality is terrible on our broadcasts.


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[Puddin Tane]

Fixed it for you.

yup..but i aint bragging bout it. You forgot North American, Langston, Ms college

i do believe we are undeafeated vs skools in south dakota, tho

[ST_Lawson]

Eastern Washington at Western Illinois on Scott Van Pelt's Bad Beats: https://youtu.be/3fzRgaV_eDU?t=234

He covers 3 games (UConn at Army, which mentions Holy Cross beating UConn, although he says HC isn't DI), Wagner at Saint Francis (at ~2:28), then EWU at WIU at ~3:54.

[Mfergy4]

Speaking of Western Illinois’ broadcast crew, at Sam, we have a professional calling the games in Tom Franklin, the former radio voice for the University of Houston, but the audio quality is terrible on our broadcasts.


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The Towson TV Play-By-Play really sucked....camera shots high school grade at best.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Eastern Washington at Western Illinois on Scott Van Pelt's Bad Beats: https://youtu.be/3fzRgaV_eDU?t=234

He covers 3 games (UConn at Army, which mentions Holy Cross beating UConn, although he says HC isn't DI), Wagner at Saint Francis (at ~2:28), then EWU at WIU at ~3:54.

That was very impressive comeback .. still had 2 mins too boot. Not sure our defense will be ready for your offense by Oct 30th. Nor sure our offense will even be ready ..... aside from that Mrs Lincoln ....

[Houndawg]

The difference is the hard I vs soft I sound in the word. Generally you aren't seeing bunch of soft I sounds followed by a soft S nor a bunch of hard I sounds followed by a hard s

Words can be spelled similar all they want, when vowel sounds change it can change the rest of the word to sound differently and change the sound of the consonants around them.

The english language is ****ed up


Mix a Germanic language with some Latin rules of grammar...

[ST_Lawson]

That was very impressive comeback .. still had 2 mins too boot. Not sure our defense will be ready for your offense by Oct 30th. Nor sure our offense will even be ready ..... aside from that Mrs Lincoln ....

Yeah, almost had them. Didn't get the onside kick, got them to 3rd and 7, but weren't able to contain EWU QB Barriereuntil after he'd gotten the 1st down and then that was it.
Our offense finally has a little bit of a running game. It's not much of one, but better than the last couple of years, which is enough to help open up the passing game a bit more, and is a big part of why Sampson is averaging over 300 yards per game and we're actually doing ok on the TOP (averaging 31:49 this year so far, whereas last spring it was 23:44 and in 2019 it was 25:50).

Our defense though is still getting burned by big plays...TD passes from 33, 76, 51, 34, 51 yards out, 53 and 73-yard rushing TDs. I realize that Barriere is better than your average QB (I think he's been on the Payton Award Watchlist since he was 5 or something), but it still doesn't bode well for when we have to go up against really good offensive teams like SIU, SDSU, or UND.

[HAL_9000]

MVFC now 17-2 vs OOC FCS competition.

MVFC teams not named Western Illinois: 17-0

What is the collective winning percentage of the teams that got beat by the 9 Valley schools posting perfect OOC FCS success?

I think all of those Valley wins came against not just losing teams but teams with zero D-I wins. I maybe mistaken there might be one win in the whole lot. Very impressive though.

Sad that Western didn't upset the #4 and #6 ranked teams they competed against. However if you bet on EWU you lost because Western covered so there is that.

[Gil Dobie]

What is the collective winning percentage of the teams that got beat by the 9 Valley schools posting perfect OOC FCS success?

I think all of those Valley wins came against not just losing teams but teams with zero D-I wins. I maybe mistaken there might be one win in the whole lot. Very impressive though.

Sad that Western didn't upset the #4 and #6 ranked teams they competed against. However if you bet on EWU you lost because Western covered so there is that.

Quick look and NAU, Towson and Colorado St have DI wins.

[Sycamore62]

What is the collective winning percentage of the teams that got beat by the 9 Valley schools posting perfect OOC FCS success?

I think all of those Valley wins came against not just losing teams but teams with zero D-I wins. I maybe mistaken there might be one win in the whole lot. Very impressive though.



ISUb beat EKU who has a win agains WCU and a loss to Louisville. most of those wins will be against a team with one of their 2 games being a loss to a FBS school so that skews it a little bit.

[skinny_uncle]

What is the collective winning percentage of the teams that got beat by the 9 Valley schools posting perfect OOC FCS success?

I think all of those Valley wins came against not just losing teams but teams with zero D-I wins. I maybe mistaken there might be one win in the whole lot. Very impressive though.

Sad that Western didn't upset the #4 and #6 ranked teams they competed against. However if you bet on EWU you lost because Western covered so there is that.
The Dayton team that SIU beat has a win over Eastern Illinois.

[ST_Lawson]

The Dayton team that SIU beat has a win over Eastern Illinois.

I feel like my high school could get a win over Eastern Illinois at this point.

[Bisonator]

What is the collective winning percentage of the teams that got beat by the 9 Valley schools posting perfect OOC FCS success?

I think all of those Valley wins came against not just losing teams but teams with zero D-I wins. I maybe mistaken there might be one win in the whole lot. Very impressive though.

Sad that Western didn't upset the #4 and #6 ranked teams they competed against. However if you bet on EWU you lost because Western covered so there is that.
Yes you are, in just the handful I've looked at there are at least 6 D1 wins and one of those (NAU) was an FBS win.

[skinny_uncle]

I feel like my high school could get a win over Eastern Illinois at this point.

They are still technically D1. Or did you go to high school at Indiana State?

[JacksFan40]

Quick look and NAU, Towson and Colorado St have DI wins.

NAU, Towson, Colorado State, Sac State, Cal Poly, UCA, EKU, UIW, and Dayton all have D1 wins. This guy is just looking for a reason to crap on the MVFC.

[Sycamore62]

They are still technically D1. Or did you go to high school at Indiana State?

Ironically, I know people who went to high school at EIU. and I think some people went to high school at Indiana State

[ST_Lawson]

They are still technically D1. Or did you go to high school at Indiana State?

It was a joke...no I don't actually think my HS (or any HS) could beat even a bad DI team. Honestly, I don't know that we're any better than EIU at this point anyway. Won't really have any good idea until after we've played the ISU's.


Ironically, I know people who went to high school at EIU. and I think some people went to high school at Indiana State

I went to school from K-2nd grade at Western Illinois (lab school that closed after my 2nd grade year, otherwise would have gone there through 6th grade).

[clenz]

What is the collective winning percentage of the teams that got beat by the 9 Valley schools posting perfect OOC FCS success?

I think all of those Valley wins came against not just losing teams but teams with zero D-I wins. I maybe mistaken there might be one win in the whole lot. Very impressive though.

Sad that Western didn't upset the #4 and #6 ranked teams they competed against. However if you bet on EWU you lost because Western covered so there is that.
Collective? I went with FCS/comp level games only sans an FBS win. The Valley's OOC went 13-8 against the FCS/like level competition that wasn't MVFC and had multiple FBS scalps their own.

WIU fans getting pissy about playing a tough OOC schedule might want to stand down. WIU has had plenty cupcake wins of their own over the last deacde to pad wins.

Plenty of Valley teams have played premier FCS OOC games as well. This is the first year UNI isn't top 3-5 in OOC SOS in about a deacde. Let's not pretend WIU is some sort of victim

[nodak651]

Collective? I went with FCS/comp level games only sans an FBS win. The Valley's OOC went 13-8 against the FCS/like level competition that wasn't MVFC and had multiple FBS scalps their own.

WIU fans getting pissy about playing a tough OOC schedule might want to stand down. WIU has had plenty cupcake wins of their own over the last deacde to pad wins.

Plenty of Valley teams have played premier FCS OOC games as well. This is the first year UNI isn't top 3-5 in OOC SOS in about a deacde. Let's not pretend WIU is some sort of victim

Does St. Thomas count as a D1 win for playoffs? Serious question.

[Sycamore62]

Does St. Thomas count as a D1 win for playoffs? Serious question.

Depends on what he did to become a saint. Not a serous answer.

[clenz]

Does St. Thomas count as a D1 win for playoffs? Serious question.
Yes.

They aren't playoff eligible until 2026 but they are technically in year 2 of their transition. Year 1 just happened to not have football played by them due to covid.

[HAL_9000]

Collective? I went with FCS/comp level games only sans an FBS win. The Valley's OOC went 13-8 against the FCS/like level competition that wasn't MVFC and had multiple FBS scalps their own.

WIU fans getting pissy about playing a tough OOC schedule might want to stand down. WIU has had plenty cupcake wins of their own over the last deacde to pad wins.

Plenty of Valley teams have played premier FCS OOC games as well. This is the first year UNI isn't top 3-5 in OOC SOS in about a deacde. Let's not pretend WIU is some sort of victim

Ok, I stand corrected. "might want to stand down" Clenz relax. I wasn't attacking or being "pissy" I think I should have looked closer at my mates schedules. Not everything needs to be escalated or be a contest.

Prof Chaos Bragging about OOC win's is just rich, their schedule is weak year in and year out. To be clear I have no issues with UNI, I actually have admiration for the program.

[HAL_9000]

Full disclosure I don't claim to have expertise in numbers. However, of course that won't stop me. So if we are talking about the 17-0 FCS OOC mark racked up by schools not named WIU or SDSU. I count the my MVFC bretheren's opponents tallying 7 wins and 27 losses for a winning percentage of .205

Yes the 17 wins are nice, however it's pretty soft. I would hardly consider it meriting accolades or any sense of achievement.

[HAL_9000]

Yes.

They aren't playoff eligible until 2026 but they are technically in year 2 of their transition. Year 1 just happened to not have football played by them due to covid.

I was not aware of this. Even though St. Thomas is not playing a full D-I schedule they count?

[Professor Chaos]

Full disclosure I don't claim to have expertise in numbers. However, of course that won't stop me. So if we are talking about the 17-0 FCS OOC mark racked up by schools not named WIU or SDSU. I count the my MVFC bretheren's opponents tallying 7 wins and 27 losses for a winning percentage of .205

Yes the 17 wins are nice, however it's pretty soft. I would hardly consider it meriting accolades or any sense of achievement.
Really??? You don't think 17-2 vs other FCS teams is impressive. This will likely get the conference 1, possibly 2, extra playoff bids that they wouldn't have gotten with a .500 record against those teams. Don't care what holes you want to shoot through it that's a big deal.

Yes, when you're pulling the winning percentage of teams that went 0-17 vs the MVFC this early in the season it's not going to be very good. Another way of putting it is those teams were 7-10 in games not involving MVFC opponents.

[Redbird 4th & short]

Full disclosure I don't claim to have expertise in numbers. However, of course that won't stop me. So if we are talking about the 17-0 FCS OOC mark racked up by schools not named WIU or SDSU. I count the my MVFC bretheren's opponents tallying 7 wins and 27 losses for a winning percentage of .205

Yes the 17 wins are nice, however it's pretty soft. I would hardly consider it meriting accolades or any sense of achievement.

I assume that includes all FBS games too ? Mostly agree with your point on level of OOC competition for MVFC (excluding FBS and MVFC games) ... though for each of their 3 games, 1 was MVFC and 1 was probably FBS. So that means 1-2 record at best for those teams, which Clenz and Professor also mentioned. Granted, most of us also schedule 1 patsy because of how tough our conf schedule is. In any case, probably best to exclude the FBS for this specific purpose.

That said, our collective FBS performance (sans my ISUr) was what impressed me more than anything in OOC play. I think this will be a a 5 bid year minimum for MVFC, possibly 6 bids. And our playoff results consistently show we deliver in playoffs. We just look so stacked at top of our conference. But now we start the conference season ... 44 wins 44 losses war of attrition, that is the MVFC gauntlet. Which tends to water down how good our conference usually is .. then we usually get 1 or 2 bids less than we should.

Our playoff record consistently proves this to be true the past decade. If you combine all MVFC playoff games, first remove all head to head, and then remove all of NDSUs games .. MVFC still has about a .660 win % against non-MVFC playoff teams, excluding NDSUs .970 win %. No other conference is even close. Big Sky has definitely closed the gap these last 4-5 years, but only excluding NDSU results. This fact gets lost on so many people, including the selection committee .. strength of schedule inside the MVFC.

[Bisonator]

Ok, I stand corrected. "might want to stand down" Clenz relax. I wasn't attacking or being "pissy" I think I should have looked closer at my mates schedules. Not everything needs to be escalated or be a contest.

Prof Chaos Bragging about OOC win's is just rich, their schedule is weak year in and year out. To be clear I have no issues with UNI, I actually have admiration for the program.
Yep we have to beat up on the weak like EWU, UC Davis, Delaware, etc.......because we struggle getting wins in the toughest conference.........oh wait wut

Yes our OOC schedule sucked this year. It's hard to get FBS teams and top FCS teams to play you when your not a door mat like WIU year in and year out but dude just stop you've already dug a bigger hole than your teamxlolx

[Chalupa Batman]

Full disclosure I don't claim to have expertise in numbers. However, of course that won't stop me. So if we are talking about the 17-0 FCS OOC mark racked up by schools not named WIU or SDSU. I count the my MVFC bretheren's opponents tallying 7 wins and 27 losses for a winning percentage of .205

Yes the 17 wins are nice, however it's pretty soft. I would hardly consider it meriting accolades or any sense of achievement.


Really??? You don't think 17-2 vs other FCS teams is impressive. This will likely get the conference 1, possibly 2, extra playoff bids that they wouldn't have gotten with a .500 record against those teams. Don't care what holes you want to shoot through it that's a big deal.

Yes, when you're pulling the winning percentage of teams that went 0-17 vs the MVFC this early in the season it's not going to be very good. Another way of putting it is those teams were 7-10 in games not involving MVFC opponents.

I took a quick look this morning so my numbers may be off, but the record of the MVFC’s non conference FCS opponents (excluding WIU) is 6-9 once you take away the 17 losses to the MVFC. That takes away some lower division wins, but it also takes away FBS wins by Northern Arizona and Incarnate Word.

14 teams make up that 6-9 record. 6 of those are from the Big Sky or CAA, and 3 more are teams that are traditionally good or expected to be good in SEMO, UIW, & UCA. Our OOC schedule hasn’t exactly been a gauntlet, but let’s not act like every game has been against the Pioneer League either.

YSU beating UIW, USD beating NAU, MSU beating UCA, UNI beating Sac. St., SIU beating SEMO will all help the conference out when it comes time for the selection committee to pick the field. Even UND’s win over Idaho State might be relevant when comparing their win over the Bengals as a common opponent to a potential at-large from the Big Sky.

As PC said, the reason our opponents collective record is so bad is due in large part to the fact the Valley did very well and won all the games that were close to a tossup.

[Yote 53]

Full disclosure I don't claim to have expertise in numbers. However, of course that won't stop me. So if we are talking about the 17-0 FCS OOC mark racked up by schools not named WIU or SDSU. I count the my MVFC bretheren's opponents tallying 7 wins and 27 losses for a winning percentage of .205

Yes the 17 wins are nice, however it's pretty soft. I would hardly consider it meriting accolades or any sense of achievement.
Brah, when you are the top conference in FCS every school you play is going to be punching down. It's not our fault the MVFC wins all their OOC FCS games. Hell, I'm a fan of a school that historically does well playing OOC only to get slapped around in conference play.

[POD Knows]

Yep we have to beat up on the weak like EWU, UC Davis, Delaware, etc.......because we struggle getting wins in the toughest conference.........oh wait wut

Yes our OOC schedule sucked this year. It's hard to get FBS teams and top FCS teams to play you when your not a door mat like WIU year in and year out but dude just stop you've already dug a bigger hole than your teamxlolxThe HAL 9000 is malfunctioning :)

[JayJ79]

The HAL 9000 is malfunctioning :)
don't ask him to open the pod bay doors

[HootyHoo]

Yep we have to beat up on the weak like EWU, UC Davis, Delaware, etc.......because we struggle getting wins in the toughest conference.........oh wait wut

Yes our OOC schedule sucked this year. It's hard to get FBS teams and top FCS teams to play you when your not a door mat like WIU year in and year out but dude just stop you've already dug a bigger hole than your teamxlolx

I know exactly what you mean. It is difficult to schedule when you are an FCS super power. The struggle is real.

[caribbeanhen]

Yep we have to beat up on the weak like EWU, UC Davis, Delaware, etc.......because we struggle getting wins in the toughest conference.........oh wait wut

Yes our OOC schedule sucked this year. It's hard to get FBS teams and top FCS teams to play you when your not a door mat like WIU year in and year out but dude just stop you've already dug a bigger hole than your teamxlolx


if those are the FCS weak sisters you are an FBS team

[Gil Dobie]

Let's revisit after the season and see how the OOC teams finish.

[HAL_9000]

I took a quick look this morning so my numbers may be off, but the record of the MVFC’s non conference FCS opponents (excluding WIU) is 6-9 once you take away the 17 losses to the MVFC. That takes away some lower division wins, but it also takes away FBS wins by Northern Arizona and Incarnate Word.

14 teams make up that 6-9 record. 6 of those are from the Big Sky or CAA, and 3 more are teams that are traditionally good or expected to be good in SEMO, UIW, & UCA. Our OOC schedule hasn’t exactly been a gauntlet, but let’s not act like every game has been against the Pioneer League either.

YSU beating UIW, USD beating NAU, MSU beating UCA, UNI beating Sac. St., SIU beating SEMO will all help the conference out when it comes time for the selection committee to pick the field. Even UND’s win over Idaho State might be relevant when comparing their win over the Bengals as a common opponent to a potential at-large from the Big Sky.

As PC said, the reason our opponents collective record is so bad is due in large part to the fact the Valley did very well and won all the games that were close to a tossup.

I admire your enthusiasm.

Incarnate Word, Sacramento State, SEMO.............? Are you trying to be funny?

This goes back to Prof Chaos

touting a 17-0 OOC with the only blemishes being (Preseason last place) Western's inability to produce back to back upsets against the #4 and #6 teams in the country.

Meanwhile Prof. Chaos is including in his war chest. the following:

Valpo
Butler
Drake
Dayton
St. Thomas

All of these offer Zero schorarships.

We can also add:

Eastern Illinois
Eastern Illinois

to that impressive win total. FBS

Yeah, that seems like something to boast about.

Reality was Western was in the game with (FBS) Ball State the whole way, got man handled by Montana that (by the way Coach Hauck kinda hates us) or losing by 6 to the #6 ranked Eastern Washington Eagles.

It actually was an SDSU poster that made the statement that Western go to the Pioneer. Granted SDSU is very good. Out of curiosity what is SDSU scheduling these days?

I see a D-II, and a winless D-I startup. People enjoy good sports banter. I don't pretend to think that I add much, I certainly hope I don't detract.

[The Yo Show]

I admire your enthusiasm.

Incarnate Word, Sacramento State, SEMO.............? Are you trying to be funny?

This goes back to Prof Chaos

touting a 17-0 OOC with the only blemishes being (Preseason last place) Western's inability to produce back to back upsets against the #4 and #6 teams in the country.

Meanwhile Prof. Chaos is including in his war chest. the following:

Valpo
Butler
Drake
Dayton
St. Thomas

All of these offer Zero schorarships.

We can also add:

Eastern Illinois
Eastern Illinois

to that impressive win total. FBS

Yeah, that seems like something to boast about.

Reality was Western was in the game with (FBS) Ball State the whole way, got man handled by Montana that (by the way Coach Hauck kinda hates us) or losing by 6 to the #6 ranked Eastern Washington Eagles.

It actually was an SDSU poster that made the statement that Western go to the Pioneer. Granted SDSU is very good. Out of curiosity what is SDSU scheduling these days?

I see a D-II, and a winless D-I startup. People enjoy good sports banter. I don't pretend to think that I add much, I certainly hope I don't detract.

To be fair, uh... SDSU has played lindenwood and Colorado State. Colorado State is not a winless D-I startup (they beat a Toledo team quite handedly, the same Toledo team that ALMOST beat Notre Dame)

[HAL_9000]

To be fair, uh... SDSU has played lindenwood and Colorado State. Colorado State is not a winless D-I startup (they beat a Toledo team quite handedly, the same Toledo team that ALMOST beat Notre Dame)

I appreciate the "to be fair" lead in.

Colorado State is a very good win and an FBS win (please stop saying scalps)

I purposely left my statement ambiguous. Where would you put Dixie State? are they somewhere between D-3 and D-2 as we speak? as far as talent?

Dixie will beat Fort Lewis.

[HAL_9000]

Right,

SDSU sure did give D-II Lindenwood what for!

It's practically embarrassing that the Rabbits are not lauding their triumph over that D-II right in our face. right? What's next for OOC?

Dixie State.

Dixie State has perhaps 20 D-I athletes....they may in years time be a force, they sure were not when the schedules where made.

This has yet to play out.

People will continue to disparage this Western Eastern Northern Southern..... some States do it differently (I promise you we are open to suggestions!) However "Dixie State" however innocuous

they purport to be will continue to be problematic. North Dakota is no stranger to the times.

[Professor Chaos]

I admire your enthusiasm.

Incarnate Word, Sacramento State, SEMO.............? Are you trying to be funny?

This goes back to Prof Chaos

touting a 17-0 OOC with the only blemishes being (Preseason last place) Western's inability to produce back to back upsets against the #4 and #6 teams in the country.

Meanwhile Prof. Chaos is including in his war chest. the following:

Valpo
Butler
Drake
Dayton
St. Thomas

All of these offer Zero schorarships.

We can also add:

Eastern Illinois
Eastern Illinois

to that impressive win total. FBS

Yeah, that seems like something to boast about.

Reality was Western was in the game with (FBS) Ball State the whole way, got man handled by Montana that (by the way Coach Hauck kinda hates us) or losing by 6 to the #6 ranked Eastern Washington Eagles.

It actually was an SDSU poster that made the statement that Western go to the Pioneer. Granted SDSU is very good. Out of curiosity what is SDSU scheduling these days?

I see a D-II, and a winless D-I startup. People enjoy good sports banter. I don't pretend to think that I add much, I certainly hope I don't detract.
Did I pee in your cheerios or something? You read an awful lot into my intentions for a 7 word sentence and have wasted all sorts of time and energy shooting holes in it since you apparently think I'm beating my chest over NDSU's win over Valpo or something. Those bodybag games are necessary but it's nothing to use as proof that a national title is coming. I pointed out the conference's OOC record vs FCS teams because it will pay dividends come November when playoff selections happen. If you feel the need to continue on with your narrative that I need to be taught a lesson for my boastful impudence though go right ahead, I'm done responding.

[HAL_9000]

Did I pee in your cheerios or something? You read an awful lot into my intentions for a 7 word sentence and have wasted all sorts of time and energy shooting holes in it since you apparently think I'm beating my chest over NDSU's win over Valpo or something. Those bodybag games are necessary but it's nothing to use ased proof that a national title is coming. I pointed out the conference's OOC record vs FCS teams because it will pay dividends come November when playoff selections happen. If you feel the need to continue on with your narrative that I need to be taught a lesson for my boastful impudence though go right ahead, I'm done responding.G

Professor, I did take offense. I also think that everything you say is above board.

Two things can be true. There is plenty of stuff regarding our former governor and our former University President that hurts my heart.

[dgtw]

If Murray State joins the MVC would that make an MVFC invite automatic? The move would give the MVC six football members. Would the league then consider sponsoring the sport? Seeing as it gets them away from the Dakotas, I’d certainly consider it.

That would leave the Summit’s five members out in the cold but they could make Youngstown a football affiliate. But that would be dependent on WIU sticking around.


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[Chalupa Batman]

I admire your enthusiasm.

Incarnate Word, Sacramento State, SEMO.............? Are you trying to be funny?

This goes back to Prof Chaos

touting a 17-0 OOC with the only blemishes being (Preseason last place) Western's inability to produce back to back upsets against the #4 and #6 teams in the country.

Meanwhile Prof. Chaos is including in his war chest. the following:

Valpo
Butler
Drake
Dayton
St. Thomas

All of these offer Zero schorarships.

We can also add:

Eastern Illinois
Eastern Illinois

to that impressive win total. FBS

Yeah, that seems like something to boast about.

Reality was Western was in the game with (FBS) Ball State the whole way, got man handled by Montana that (by the way Coach Hauck kinda hates us) or losing by 6 to the #6 ranked Eastern Washington Eagles.

It actually was an SDSU poster that made the statement that Western go to the Pioneer. Granted SDSU is very good. Out of curiosity what is SDSU scheduling these days?

I see a D-II, and a winless D-I startup. People enjoy good sports banter. I don't pretend to think that I add much, I certainly hope I don't detract.

I did say that the collective OOC schedule wasn’t exactly a gauntlet, but every game isn’t against Valpo, Drake, etc. either. No one is touting every single one of the Valley’s 17 OOC FCS wins as a good win, but acting like they proved absolutely nothing with any of those wins and only the FBS results are impressive is really disingenuous.

And no, I’m not including Incarnate Word (54 points in most recent AGS poll) & Sacramento State (14 points) to try and be funny. As of now beating those 2 teams are solid wins for the Valley. And even if those 2 teams aren’t good at all they were expected to be at least solid and my point was at least teams are TRYING to schedule some good OOC teams, that’s the same reason I mentioned SEMO as they are a team that is traditionally good.

[clenz]

Dixie State to Sac State to the wire. It was 12-7 at half and there was only 1 score in the second half.

They certainly belonged on the same field as Sac - who has been top 25/ORV since preseason.

[clenz]

If Murray State joins the MVC would that make an MVFC invite automatic? The move would give the MVC six football members. Would the league then consider sponsoring the sport? Seeing as it gets them away from the Dakotas, I’d certainly consider it.

That would leave the Summit’s five members out in the cold but they could make Youngstown a football affiliate. But that would be dependent on WIU sticking around.


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I'm betting the hold up on Murray right now, as far as leaks for the move go, compared to Belmont is football. Not that there wouldn't be the votes for them to get in - remember Valley schools unanimously voted UND in because it was in the best interest of the Summit schools (though it wasn't popular with Valley schools) - but needing to get ducks in a row for the move. The Valley has conference schedules done through 2025, IIRC, and have had to scrap the 20s conference schedule twice already after it was released because of moves and what not. It's not "automatic" becuse simply being in the Valley (or Summit) doesn't mean you are instantly granted MVFC membership. The MVFC is it's own conference.

Having said that, it will happen and I don't think anyone is going to have a big enough gripe about it

On the Summit side
SDSU/NDSU - good enough and enough money to not give a ****....NDSU is also one foot out the door so they really DGAF.
USD/UND - similar to the DSU's. Might complain a little bit but given the lifeline the Valley schools gave both of them in 12 and then 20 there's nothing to bitch about
WIU - 100% in favor of. A team that is closer to their competition level (below them even), a closer travel school. Especially because 12 would go to a divisional split set up

YSU? **** YSU but the reality is they'd be in favor of it because of the division set up meaning less travel for them, and a team they can beat more than they lose too which would be a nice change for them.

The 5 Valley schools? Obviously 100% in favor of it.

The MVC will never sponsor football*. By never I mean, unless something really bad happens and the Valley is going to completely collapse unless they sponsor football they aren't sponsoring football. What having 6 members does, however, is protect the MVFC and MVC should the idea of Summit League Football happen by adding UNC and then UST/Augie down the road as well as maintaining YSU for the membership protection. The Valley FC existed because the Dakota Schools - for quarter century - and will continue should the Dakota's leave. Obviously both the Summit and Valley would be far weaker conferences if they split up and I don't know that administrators at any school are so set on breaking the MVFC up that anything is even remotely close to being on the radar.

Patty V said, going back to when UND was added, that 11 teams isn't ideal for scheduling and the end goal would be 12 because it allows for the two divisions of 6 meaning 5 division and 3 crossover games. This limits travel for every one, and keeps programs happy. UND's travel isn't as bad as it as in the Big Sky but going to Missouri State, Youngstown State, and Indiana State isn't exactly an ideal road slate for a conference set up. Same with YSU and going to the Dakota's and MSU.

How those divisions would be set up? No idea. I've hypothesized on them before but you could do a Valley/Summit split but that leaves YSU out and with the Summit then having 1 less team you don't solve the travel issues for YSU at all, in fact you make them worse by locking them into two trips to the Dakota's every single year, and lord knows they will scream louder than a Husky having a temper tantrum about not being let out side when they want to be.

You could do a bit of a N/S split of UND, NDSU, SDSU, UND, UNI, WIU and then MOSU, MUSU, SIU, ISUB, ISUR, YSU or do a E/W split by swapping WIU for MSU byt the competitive imbalance in that is just insanely dumb.

There is also rivalries that would "need" protected. Imagine telling USD/UND "You don't get to play SDSU/NDSU every year". Telling USD/SDSU they don't get that rivalry game wouldn't be great. UND/NDSU might not care as much. Or tell SDSU/NDSU they don't get the marker game every year. On the east side UNI has played WIU every year since something like 1983. UNI/SIU is a series with a ton of history that we've already had to have dropped off the schedule as part of the rotation.

I'm sure all of that is going into, has to go into, the discussion on adding Murray State into the Valley FC before anything starts to leak as happening.




What would be interesting is the Summit schools really wanting their own league, seeing the OVC fall apart and going to grad SEMO and EIU along with UNC to start their own league. Bridges the gap a bit for WIU in travel and competition in all sports. Gives them enough football members for their own league but would create a 13 team situation in basketball, which isn't ideal. Though ORU is never locked into a conference for more than a couple years at a time so they might head elsewhere again - maybe SLC again where they can win more consistently now that SFA is gone and get away from SDSU/NDSU.

[clenz]

Also the MVC currently has 7 football playing members before Murray is added. Now there is zero chance Drake and Valpo ever leave the the PFL for the Valley should summit schools go elsewhere but in theory there is protection for the valley schools there before world falls apart on them


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[mmiller_34]

I admire your enthusiasm.

Incarnate Word, Sacramento State, SEMO.............? Are you trying to be funny?

This goes back to Prof Chaos

touting a 17-0 OOC with the only blemishes being (Preseason last place) Western's inability to produce back to back upsets against the #4 and #6 teams in the country.

Meanwhile Prof. Chaos is including in his war chest. the following:

Valpo
Butler
Drake
Dayton
St. Thomas

All of these offer Zero schorarships.

We can also add:

Eastern Illinois
Eastern Illinois

to that impressive win total. FBS

Yeah, that seems like something to boast about.

Reality was Western was in the game with (FBS) Ball State the whole way, got man handled by Montana that (by the way Coach Hauck kinda hates us) or losing by 6 to the #6 ranked Eastern Washington Eagles.

It actually was an SDSU poster that made the statement that Western go to the Pioneer. Granted SDSU is very good. Out of curiosity what is SDSU scheduling these days?

I see a D-II, and a winless D-I startup. People enjoy good sports banter. I don't pretend to think that I add much, I certainly hope I don't detract.

And I was just being facetious. Obviously, Western Illinios does not belong in the Pioneer.

[The Yo Show]

I appreciate the "to be fair" lead in.

Colorado State is a very good win and an FBS win (please stop saying scalps)

I purposely left my statement ambiguous. Where would you put Dixie State? are they somewhere between D-3 and D-2 as we speak? as far as talent?

Dixie will beat Fort Lewis.

Misunderstood. Thought you were referring to who they had already played... Which was why I said Colorado State was FBS not winless D1 startup.

[SDFS]

Hey did anyone else see the horrible officiating in the MSU/USD game? I only watched the last 5 minutes of the game and I saw 4 terrible calls. All of which impacted the outcome.

1) Block in the back in front of an official on a TD play
2) Missed PI in the endzone
3) Horrible call of forward progress on a fumble
4) Then a questionable fumble call on the very next play.

[Redbird 4th & short]

I did say that the collective OOC schedule wasn’t exactly a gauntlet, but every game isn’t against Valpo, Drake, etc. either. No one is touting every single one of the Valley’s 17 OOC FCS wins as a good win, but acting like they proved absolutely nothing with any of those wins and only the FBS results are impressive is really disingenuous.

And no, I’m not including Incarnate Word (54 points in most recent AGS poll) & Sacramento State (14 points) to try and be funny. As of now beating those 2 teams are solid wins for the Valley. And even if those 2 teams aren’t good at all they were expected to be at least solid and my point was at least teams are TRYING to schedule some good OOC teams, that’s the same reason I mentioned SEMO as they are a team that is traditionally good.

To your point about scheduling timing:

IW was at large in 2018 and were trending up at time

For 2019 season ...

Sac St finished 2019 ranked #9, but were ranked top 4 ffor couple weeks near at end of reg season.
SEMO was at large and finished #17; they finished #15 in 2018
Albany was at large and finished #18
Towson was top 20 all year until final week, finishing 7-5; they finished #20 in 2018.
Central Ark was top 10 before playoff

UNA and Cal Poly have been up and down, typically solid Big Sky teams ... and Big Sky has been right there with MVFC these last 4-5 years. EKU has been in and out of top 25 many years.

But going back to earlier point I and others made .. when you play in MVFC and try to schedule a decent/good FBS every year. Then yes, many of us also try to schedule a patsy. That usually leaves just 1 game slot to schedule a good FCS OOC game. Hard to control if those normally good FCS programs fall off once in a while.

[MSUDuo]

Hey did anyone else see the horrible officiating in the MSU/USD game? I only watched the last 5 minutes of the game and I saw 4 terrible calls. All of which impacted the outcome.

1) Block in the back in front of an official on a TD play
2) Missed PI in the endzone
3) Horrible call of forward progress on a fumble
4) Then a questionable fumble call on the very next play.

It wasn't good through out the game

[MSUWineGuy]

Hey did anyone else see the horrible officiating in the MSU/USD game? I only watched the last 5 minutes of the game and I saw 4 terrible calls. All of which impacted the outcome.

1) Block in the back in front of an official on a TD play
2) Missed PI in the endzone
3) Horrible call of forward progress on a fumble
4) Then a questionable fumble call on the very next play.

it was absolutely atrocious.

[acbearkat]

Hey did anyone else see the horrible officiating in the MSU/USD game? I only watched the last 5 minutes of the game and I saw 4 terrible calls. All of which impacted the outcome.

1) Block in the back in front of an official on a TD play
2) Missed PI in the endzone
3) Horrible call of forward progress on a fumble
4) Then a questionable fumble call on the very next play.

The fourth I didn’t feel was questionable, but the first three you mentioned were absolutely egregiously missed calls.


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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Looking forward to the NDSU/UND game this coming Saturday!

Will be fun cheering for the Bison in enemy territory!

xnodx

[TheKingpin28]

Looking forward to the NDSU/UND game this coming Saturday!

Will be fun cheering for the Bison in enemy territory!

xnodxGoing to be fun

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[SDFS]

Any of you guys going to the game?

[Sycamore62]

this is the time of year when i again ask which MVFC schools are paying players FCOA. does anyone know?

[ST_Lawson]

this is the time of year when i again ask which MVFC schools are paying players FCOA. does anyone know?

I reasonably certain we are not.

[geaux_sioux]

Looking forward to the NDSU/UND game this coming Saturday!

Will be fun cheering for the Bison in enemy territory!

xnodx

Should be a really fun tailgate

[geaux_sioux]

The fourth I didn’t feel was questionable, but the first three you mentioned were absolutely egregiously missed calls.


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It was crazy. After a certain point, it became comical.

[SDFS]

this is the time of year when i again ask which MVFC schools are paying players FCOA. does anyone know?

I think: UND, NDSU, SDSU, USD and UNI all do.. not sure about the rest of the league. And I am sure UNI fans will correct me I am wrong with UNI.

[Sycamore62]

I think: UND, NDSU, SDSU, USD and UNI all do.. not sure about the rest of the league. And I am sure UNI fans will correct me I am wrong with UNI.

at some point it was based on need or circumstances i think for UNI

[clenz]

at some point it was based on need or circumstances i think for UNI

AFAIK it’s available for FB, BB, VB and WR


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[Chalupa Batman]

Tough news coming out of Brookings

https://mobile.twitter.com/argusmattz/status/1442891281173123080

Each game so far the Rabbits have lost a key contributor to a significant injury as Landon Wolf, Isaiah Davis and now Don Gardner have gone down. This last one will hurt the most IMO.

[ysubigred]

Tough news coming out of Brookings

https://mobile.twitter.com/argusmattz/status/1442891281173123080

Each game so far the Rabbits have lost a key contributor to a significant injury as Landon Wolf, Isaiah Davis and now Don Gardner have gone down. This last one will hurt the most IMO.Wow sorry to hear this. Sometimes we forget these kids lay it all on the line..



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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

NDSU is going to run the ball....big shock.

RB averages so far:

Luepke: 11.5
Williams: 9.1
Bussy: 9.0
Gonnella: 8.2

Make UND stop the run. When they stack the box throw it to Watson deep and the TEs in the seams.

I think the Bison wear down the UND defense and win easily.

[acbearkat]

NDSU is going to run the ball....big shock.

RB averages so far:

Luepke: 11.5
Williams: 9.1
Bussy: 9.0
Gonnella: 8.2

Make UND stop the run. When they stack the box throw it to Watson deep and the TEs in the seams.

I think the Bison wear down the UND defense and win easily.

North Dakota is small up front on the defensive line. I don’t think they’ll be able to hold up.


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[SDFS]

NDSU is going to run the ball....big shock.

RB averages so far:

Luepke: 11.5
Williams: 9.1
Bussy: 9.0
Gonnella: 8.2

Make UND stop the run. When they stack the box throw it to Watson deep and the TEs in the seams.

I think the Bison wear down the UND defense and win easily.

Same thing we saw this spring. I expect nothing different.

[dewey]

NDSU is going to run the ball....big shock.

RB averages so far:

Luepke: 11.5
Williams: 9.1
Bussy: 9.0
Gonnella: 8.2

Make UND stop the run. When they stack the box throw it to Watson deep and the TEs in the seams.

I think the Bison wear down the UND defense and win easily.

As long as NDSU wins the turnover battle I agree. Patterson has been very good so far (Albany and Towson were decent and potential middle of the CAA teams) but we shall see how it goes against better competition.

My prediction
NDSU 31
That school North of Fargo 10

Dewey

[POD Knows]

24 - 17 UND, NDSU has no answer for the crowd noise from the 8K UND faithful, noise echoes bad in that tin shed causing complete disorientation for the Bison offense. UND gives up their run game early and slings the ball all over the place, 50/50 balls turn into 90/10 balls in favor of UND. Rolls up 350+ yards of passing. #BOOKIT

[Paladin1aa]

I see sandbaggers everywhere. This won’t be much of a game. NDSU by 35-17. Ball control run game and big D.

[Preferred Walk-On]

I see sandbaggers everywhere. This won’t be much of a game. NDSU by 35-17. Ball control run game and big D.

You probably did not know this, but Fargo is home of the sandbagger. We even have a monument dedicated to it.

32151

[Chalupa Batman]

I see sandbaggers everywhere. This won’t be much of a game. NDSU by 35-17. Ball control run game and big D.

NDSU should be able to control this game, but there is no denying that UND can play like world beaters at home so this will be a little closer than people think. I think we win 31-21.

[Paladin1aa]

You probably did not know this, but Fargo is home of the sandbagger. We even have a monument dedicated to it.

32151

Your attachment didn’t come thru. However I suspect you may be referring to a flooding Red River, which would overflow the sewers. Consequently, sandbagging to stop the town from being full of chit is notable but a little late for the naturally occurring phenomenon. 😂

[Yote 53]

Tough news coming out of Brookings

https://mobile.twitter.com/argusmattz/status/1442891281173123080

Each game so far the Rabbits have lost a key contributor to a significant injury as Landon Wolf, Isaiah Davis and now Don Gardner have gone down. This last one will hurt the most IMO.

Have to wonder if there is any correlation to SDSU's deep playoff run last spring. Lot of games adding up with a short off season.

[dewey]

Have to wonder if there is any correlation to SDSU's deep playoff run last spring. Lot of games adding up with a short off season.

Yeah. It does make you wonder if they are connected or just coincidence. I think I recall hearing coaches that were concerned about a quick turnaround.

That is too bad.

Dewey

[Professor Chaos]

Have to wonder if there is any correlation to SDSU's deep playoff run last spring. Lot of games adding up with a short off season.


Yeah. It does make you wonder if they are connected or just coincidence. I think I recall hearing coaches that were concerned about a quick turnaround.

That is too bad.

Dewey
I'd say it's coincidence... haven't heard much from Sam Houston in the injury department. Of course I never bought the notion that playing in the spring and then again in the fall would cause more injuries so I'll admit my bias.

[clenz]

It's possible.

The other side of that is it's tough to call broken bones, which half of them seem to be, wear and tear injuries.

[Yote 53]

Of course I never bought the notion that playing in the spring and then again in the fall would cause more injuries so I'll admit my bias.

I also shared this opinion but now I am beginning to wonder. It may just be coincidence but it's something to follow for all the teams that played more than a handful of games in the spring.

[Carolina010]

It's possible.

The other side of that is it's tough to call broken bones, which half of them seem to be, wear and tear injuries.

Landon Wolf was a torn ACL and he didn’t play in the spring. Isaiah Davis is a broken collar bone not a wear and tear injury just got landed on weird. I’m assuming Don Gardner is a collar bone as well so same as Davis not really wear and tear.

But whatever it is it needs to stop. As talented and deep as this team seems to be there isn’t a team in any sport that can lose 1 starter every week and still have a successful season.

[Chalupa Batman]

SDSU seems really snake bit with injuries the last few years in FB, MBB, & WBB.

[dewey]

It is almost here....

Watch "Football: Week 5 Trailer vs UND" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/ZcajWgCdHy0

Go Bison.....Sioux suck ****!

Dewey

[Carolina010]

Landon Wolf was a torn ACL and he didn’t play in the spring. Isaiah Davis is a broken collar bone not a wear and tear injury just got landed on weird. I’m assuming Don Gardner is a collar bone as well so same as Davis not really wear and tear.

But whatever it is it needs to stop. As talented and deep as this team seems to be there isn’t a team in any sport that can lose 1 starter every week and still have a successful season.

I was wrong according to Matt Zimmers news article Don Gardner broke his arm and had surgery this week. He is hoping to be back sooner than the 8 week timeframe.

If I had to make a prediction Gardner and Davis will be ready to go for the NDSU game.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Making the trek north in a few hours with 3 buddies to watch NDSU win this game. The Alerus should have a good atmosphere today. It will be interesting to see how many Bison fans got tickets for this one.

[dewey]

Making the trek north in a few hours with 3 buddies to watch NDSU win this game. The Alerus should have a good atmosphere today. It will be interesting to see how many Bison fans got tickets for this one.

Have fun! Yell like hell.

Go Bison!

Dewey

[Bisonator]

Hail the Bison! Hail the Bison!
With our tails up in the air!
University, University,
You can kiss what's under there!

GO BISON!!!!

[acbearkat]

Hail the Bison! Hail the Bison!
With our tails up in the air!
University, University,
You can kiss what's under there!

GO BISON!!!!

[emoji38]


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[dewey]

Hail the Bison! Hail the Bison!
With our tails up in the air!
University, University,
You can kiss what's under there!

GO BISON!!!!

Here is the full version...

This is the song for today......

On the plains of North Dakota
there for all to see
Stands an old abandoned outhouse
And they call it U-N-D.
Hail the Bison, Hail the Bison
with their tails up in the air.
University, University
The Sue can kiss whats under there.

Go Bison! Sioux suck ****!

Dewey

[BeamMeUp]

UNI should win big today over YSU. I fully expect UNI to load up the box and force the OC to have Crenshaw throw the ball. What I will be watching is whether the OC, who called a dismal 2nd half last week, comes out calling run plays which will go nowhere, or if he will see the light and allow Crenshaw to pass it around, even if it means an INT or two. If he comes out with the conservative calls, we may get shut out today. Last week was on our coaching staff. Don’t let these kids down a second straight week.

[ysubigred]

UNI should win big today over YSU. I fully expect UNI to load up the box and force the OC to have Crenshaw throw the ball. What I will be watching is whether the OC, who called a dismal 2nd half last week, comes out calling run plays which will go nowhere, or if he will see the light and allow Crenshaw to pass it around, even if it means an INT or two. If he comes out with the conservative calls, we may get shut out today. Last week was on our coaching staff. Don’t let these kids down a second straight week.Beam your words have never rang truer..

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[clenz]

Is that ****bag that is a bitch and took cheap shot Quan Hampton in the spring allowed on the sidelines again?

I'd like him to meet the Penning brothers on the left side of our OL.

[BisonTru]

UNI should win big today over YSU. I fully expect UNI to load up the box and force the OC to have Crenshaw throw the ball. What I will be watching is whether the OC, who called a dismal 2nd half last week, comes out calling run plays which will go nowhere, or if he will see the light and allow Crenshaw to pass it around, even if it means an INT or two. If he comes out with the conservative calls, we may get shut out today. Last week was on our coaching staff. Don’t let these kids down a second straight week.

A week before NDSU? I doubt Farley even has a game plan for YSU.

UNI plays down this week potentially losing, then plays NDSU tough potentially winning next week. JMHO.

[clenz]

UNI should win big today over YSU. I fully expect UNI to load up the box and force the OC to have Crenshaw throw the ball. What I will be watching is whether the OC, who called a dismal 2nd half last week, comes out calling run plays which will go nowhere, or if he will see the light and allow Crenshaw to pass it around, even if it means an INT or two. If he comes out with the conservative calls, we may get shut out today. Last week was on our coaching staff. Don’t let these kids down a second straight week.
UNI is averaging 2 picks per game. We'd be happy to have you FAFO with our secondary.

Even better is coming out conservative and letting the front 7, that's given up 2.6 ypc and less than 90 yards per game up set the tone so that you HAVE to FAFO with the secondary later on.

[ysubigred]

Is that ****bag that is a bitch and took cheap shot Quan Hampton in the spring allowed on the sidelines again?

I'd like him to meet the Penning brothers on the left side of our OL.Stop new year new staff. You still have cheap shot players that punch in the balls?

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[clenz]

Stop new year new staff. You still have cheap shot players that punch in the balls?

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He's still on your staff
https://i.imgur.com/WmKyPkh.png



Little punk ass bitch blocked every UNI fan he could and put his twitter profile on private because of it.

[Paladin1aa]

UNI should win big today over YSU. I fully expect UNI to load up the box and force the OC to have Crenshaw throw the ball. What I will be watching is whether the OC, who called a dismal 2nd half last week, comes out calling run plays which will go nowhere, or if he will see the light and allow Crenshaw to pass it around, even if it means an INT or two. If he comes out with the conservative calls, we may get shut out today. Last week was on our coaching staff. Don’t let these kids down a second straight week.

I expect UNI to win as well. However, I expect to see Waid used in a Wildcat . Crenshaw will play QB, but 5hey will use Waid to take some lumps that won’t go the Crenshaw. Not sure you are going to see a lot of long balls. If they were conservative with WIU, can’t see them airing it out against a UNI. You need time to do that and the YSU OL will not stop the UNI rush and blitzes. Coaches will look bad again and the talent difference will show.

[ysubigred]

He's still on your staff
https://i.imgur.com/WmKyPkh.png



Little punk ass bitch blocked every UNI fan he could and put his twitter profile on private because of it.Yeah give love a chance.. he saw the light [emoji106]

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[skinny_uncle]

The Salukis are getting ready to play four straight ranked teams. Life in the Valley. Ain't it fun?

[geaux_sioux]

NDSU is going to run the ball....big shock.

RB averages so far:

Luepke: 11.5
Williams: 9.1
Bussy: 9.0
Gonnella: 8.2

Make UND stop the run. When they stack the box throw it to Watson deep and the TEs in the seams.

I think the Bison wear down the UND defense and win easily.


North Dakota is small up front on the defensive line. I don’t think they’ll be able to hold up.


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Same thing we saw this spring. I expect nothing different.


As long as NDSU wins the turnover battle I agree. Patterson has been very good so far (Albany and Towson were decent and potential middle of the CAA teams) but we shall see how it goes against better competition.

My prediction
NDSU 31
That school North of Fargo 10

Dewey


I see sandbaggers everywhere. This won’t be much of a game. NDSU by 35-17. Ball control run game and big D.

Well?

[dewey]

Well?

Well what? GFCC played extremely well defensively and NDSU really struggled offensively. Thanks to Bubba's stupid 4th down call on 4th down at their own 20 yard line gifting NDSU 3 points.

The NDSU defense and special teams played awesome!

Please point me to the post where you made a prediction for the game.

I and others were wrong. Not the 1st or last time.

Go Bison! Siouxage suck ****!

Dewey

[Bison56]

Well?

Moral victories are in the 4th column.

[Preferred Walk-On]

Moral victories are in the 4th column.

I don't know. Moral victories got a few teams moved up or into the AGS Poll, so...

BTW, I am thinking of adding this as a column in the "How They Fared" spreadsheet. ;)

[POD Knows]

I don't know. Moral victories got a few teams moved up or into the AGS Poll, so...

BTW, I am thinking of adding this as a column in the "How They Fared" spreadsheet. ;)
An actual victory got the Bison moved down in mine.

[SDFS]

Well?

I was at the game and had a great time. Meet several former UND players in my section and parents of a NDSU player. It was a lot of fun. Unfortunately my team did not win. I think the biggest difference was at QB for NDSU. I think he a Chris Streveler type of QB. Beast to stop running and can throw the ball. Unfortunately, I think NDSU did stuff the ball down UND throat like last spring in the 4th Q when UND needed a stop. They went power with the FB at running back and UND could not stop it. So I would question anyone who thinks that UND has figured it out. The NDSU staff just choose not to used it until the 4th Q. Being honest, I am not sure that NDSU wouldn't be better off with the Fr-RS at QB.

[Preferred Walk-On]

I was at the game and had a great time. Meet several former UND players in my section and parents of a NDSU player. It was a lot of fun. Unfortunately my team did not win. I think the biggest difference was at QB for NDSU. I think he a Chris Streveler type of QB. Beast to stop running and can throw the ball. Unfortunately, I think NDSU did stuff the ball down UND throat like last spring in the 4th Q when UND needed a stop. They went power with the FB at running back and UND could not stop it. So I would question anyone who thinks that UND has figured it out. The NDSU staff just choose not to used it until the 4th Q. Being honest, I am not sure that NDSU wouldn't be better off with the Fr-RS at QB.

I think a number of Bison fans are thinking this very same thing.

[Chalupa Batman]

I think a number of Bison fans are thinking this very same thing.

I actually haven't seen too many people clamoring for a change at QB. A change at OC there is nearly unanimous agreement though.

[dewey]

I actually haven't seen too many people clamoring for a change at QB. A change at OC there is nearly unanimous agreement though.

Agreed. I don't think too many people are clamoring for the backup. I think QP2 played above average against GFCC. He has the ability to run that no one else on our roster has except maybe Cole Peyton but Cole isn'tready passing wise yet. A few of QP2's throws were dropped (Gindorf drop, Kobe Johnson drop that may have been a TD). The throws to Watson weren't good. I would like to have seen a few deep shots with Watson or more TE routes down the seam if GFCC is bracketing Watson.

I still put a majority of the blame on the OC for play calling.

Dewey

[POD Knows]

Agreed. I don't think too many people are clamoring for the backup. I think QP2 played above average against GFCC. He has the ability to run that no one else on our roster has except maybe Cole Peyton but Cole isn'tready passing wise yet. A few of QP2's throws were dropped (Gindorf drop, Kobe Johnson drop that may have been a TD). The throws to Watson weren't good. I would like to have seen a few deep shots with Watson or more TE routes down the seam if GFCC is bracketing Watson.

I still put a majority of the blame on the OC for play calling.

Dewey
Play calling and O line play. This O line might not be as good as some think The Bison O is loaded at the skill positions but they are a pretty strange team offensively.

[clenz]

From what I've seen of him, he reminds me of Aaron Bailey from UNI 2015/2016

[ST_Lawson]

Moral victories are in the 4th column.

We're pretty decent at this "moral victory" thing.
Does that mean we're 1-2-0-2?

[Chalupa Batman]

Well what? GFCC played extremely well defensively and NDSU really struggled offensively. Thanks to Bubba's stupid 4th down call on 4th down at their own 20 yard line gifting NDSU 3 points.

The NDSU defense and special teams played awesome!

Please point me to the post where you made a prediction for the game.

I and others were wrong. Not the 1st or last time.

Go Bison! Siouxage suck ****!

Dewey

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[Preferred Walk-On]

We're pretty decent at this "moral victory" thing.
Does that mean we're 1-2-0-2?

I think you meant 1-1-0-3 (the Ball State loss is a moral victory...after all, Ball State just defeated previously undefeated Army). ;)

[ST_Lawson]

I think you meant 1-1-0-3 (the Ball State loss is a moral victory...after all, Ball State just defeated previously undefeated Army). ;)

Fair enough. 3 moral victories then. Unfortunately fair weather fans and poll participants rarely see that fourth column. I'm not saying we deserve to be in the top 25 or anything, but it's disappointing seeing so many close opportunities slip out of our hands. 7 points difference and we'd be 3-2 with wins over two (at the time) top 10 teams (they're still top 10, but may not be if we'd beaten them).

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Forecast as of now for Normal, Ill on Saturday is sunny and 63 degrees. Perfect weather for a game.

This will be the 3rd time I've been down for this game. Should be a fun one. Bison fans have turned out for both of the previous games.

Interesting to see what Spack has up his sleeve for this game.

[TheKingpin28]

Forecast as of now for Normal, Ill on Saturday is sunny and 63 degrees. Perfect weather for a game.

This will be the 3rd time I've been down for this game. Should be a fun one. Bison fans have turned out for both of the previous games.

Interesting to see what Spack has up his sleeve for this game.Beyond pumped for this game. Furthest I've travelled for a conference game. Yes, I'll be rock the Spack Stache.

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[POD Knows]

Forecast as of now for Normal, Ill on Saturday is sunny and 63 degrees. Perfect weather for a game.

This will be the 3rd time I've been down for this game. Should be a fun one. Bison fans have turned out for both of the previous games.

Interesting to see what Spack has up his sleeve for this game.
The only coach with less imagination that Bison OC Roehl is Spack. He doesn’t have any sleeves. 😆

[acbearkat]

Why are the Jackrabbits known as the Jacks? That doesn’t make that much sense. I understand why SFA call themselves the Jacks, as their mascot is the Lumberjack.


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[Houndawg]

Fair enough. 3 moral victories then. Unfortunately fair weather fans and poll participants rarely see that fourth column. I'm not saying we deserve to be in the top 25 or anything, but it's disappointing seeing so many close opportunities slip out of our hands. 7 points difference and we'd be 3-2 with wins over two (at the time) top 10 teams (they're still top 10, but may not be if we'd beaten them).


WIU is a sleeper and they're going to get somebody. Held us about 50 yds rushing the week before we ran for 200 on SDSU and we were lucky to get away with the W. They'd be playoff contenders in several conferences

[Houndawg]

Why are the Jackrabbits known as the Jacks? That doesn’t make that much sense. I understand why SFA call themselves the Jacks, as their mascot is the Lumberjack.


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I gotta pass, this one is too easy

[Houndawg]

Forecast as of now for Normal, Ill on Saturday is sunny and 63 degrees. Perfect weather for a game.

This will be the 3rd time I've been down for this game. Should be a fun one. Bison fans have turned out for both of the previous games.

Interesting to see what Spack has up his sleeve for this game.


NDSU 63 - 2 ILSU

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Why are the Jackrabbits known as the Jacks? That doesn’t make that much sense. I understand why SFA call themselves the Jacks, as their mascot is the Lumberjack.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJACK-rabbit ~ lumber-JACK

= Jacks..

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[that guy]

I refer to them as the bunnies.

[ysubigred]

I refer to them as the bunnies.OR,,, Long Eared Galoot..

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[Hammerhead]

South Dakotans have trouble with big words so they shorten Jackrabbits to Jacks and Coyotes to 'Yotes. :)


Why are the Jackrabbits known as the Jacks? That doesn’t make that much sense. I understand why SFA call themselves the Jacks, as their mascot is the Lumberjack.


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[acbearkat]

To say South Dakota State’s defense was not good Saturday is an understatement. I’m watching a replay of the game.


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[Professor Chaos]

UNI's current backup and former starting QB Will McElvain has entered the transfer portal: https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/northern-iowa/uni-panthers/2021/10/11/university-northern-iowa-football-quarterback-will-mcelvain-transfer-portal/6090747001/

[Chalupa Batman]

To say South Dakota State’s defense was not good Saturday is an understatement. I’m watching a replay of the game.


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After Oladokun, Backhaus is probably the 1 guy SDSU can least afford to lose. I think him being out hurt a lot, and coupled with the defense being on the field practically the entire 2nd half didn’t help either. I’m not trying to say SDSU played well on defense, but I don’t think it’s as bad as it seemed.

[Paladin1aa]

UNI's current backup and former starting QB Will McElvain has entered the transfer portal: https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/northern-iowa/uni-panthers/2021/10/11/university-northern-iowa-football-quarterback-will-mcelvain-transfer-portal/6090747001/

Tell that guy YSU is always looking for a QB 😂

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Tell that guy YSU is always looking for a QB [emoji23]Did you see the shout out to Bozo from Waid? I wish him all the luck in the world.. he'll probably end up like Pierson...

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[JacksFan40]

WIU is a sleeper and they're going to get somebody. Held us about 50 yds rushing the week before we ran for 200 on SDSU and we were lucky to get away with the W. They'd be playoff contenders in several conferences
Yeah I’m nervous for when SDSU goes to WIU Saturday. WIU has proven they don’t give up when they’re trailing by wide margins, and have played competitive in just about every game, even against top teams like SIU and EWU. Coming off of a demoralizing loss against SIU, it’ll be interesting to see if SDSU plays with a chip on their shoulder or if they’ll falter now that they’re no longer invincible.

[POD Knows]

Yeah I’m nervous for when SDSU goes to WIU Saturday. WIU has proven they don’t give up when they’re trailing by wide margins, and have played competitive in just about every game, even against top teams like SIU and EWU. Coming off of a demoralizing loss against SIU, it’ll be interesting to see if SDSU plays with a chip on their shoulder or if they’ll falter now that they’re no longer invincible.
Invincible. They actually believed that? 😂

[Preferred Walk-On]

UNI's current backup and former starting QB Will McElvain has entered the transfer portal: https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/northern-iowa/uni-panthers/2021/10/11/university-northern-iowa-football-quarterback-will-mcelvain-transfer-portal/6090747001/

That will help Farley...not Farley it.

[Preferred Walk-On]

After Oladokun, Backhaus is probably the 1 guy SDSU can least afford to lose. I think him being out hurt a lot, and coupled with the defense being on the field practically the entire 2nd half didn’t help either. I’m not trying to say SDSU played well on defense, but I don’t think it’s as bad as it seemed.

Let's also keep in mind, they lost to Southern Illinois...by 1...in OT...going for 2.

[Chalupa Batman]

Let's also keep in mind, they lost to Southern Illinois...by 1...in OT...going for 2.

I should’ve worded that differently. The point I was trying to make wasn’t that SDSU didn’t play bad defense, but that there were weird things happening contributing to their play. I think their defense is still pretty damn good and we’ll see that going forward. Especially since it appears Backhaus should be back this Saturday.

[Preferred Walk-On]

I should’ve worded that differently. The point I was trying to make wasn’t that SDSU didn’t play bad defense, but that there were weird things happening contributing to their play. I think their defense is still pretty damn good and we’ll see that going forward. Especially since it appears Backhaus should be back this Saturday.

I get that, and I was just trying to add that despite all this, that was a game they could have won…against a top 5 team.


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[Chalupa Batman]

I get that, and I was just trying to add that despite all this, that was a game they could have won…against a top 5 team.


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Ah, gotcha. Yeah they’ll be just fine. Any bunny fans that are on the ledge need to step back. Even after this weekend I’m still not confident about Nov. 6.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Yeah I’m nervous for when SDSU goes to WIU Saturday. WIU has proven they don’t give up when they’re trailing by wide margins, and have played competitive in just about every game, even against top teams like SIU and EWU. Coming off of a demoralizing loss against SIU, it’ll be interesting to see if SDSU plays with a chip on their shoulder or if they’ll falter now that they’re no longer invincible.


SDSU is going to roll WIU. The Jacks are a bad matchup for WIU.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Wonder if Spack is going to pack the box and make the Bison passing game win the game?

xchinscratchx


I'm expecting some of this. Besides kingpin, any other Bison fans on here going to be there?

[Sycamore62]

Tell that guy YSU is always looking for a QB 

dibs

[SDFS]

South Dakotans have trouble with big words so they shorten Jackrabbits to Jacks and Coyotes to 'Yotes. :)

Oh, don't worry I call NDSU - "Bi" all the time. Not that there is anything wrong with that. xlolx

[ST_Lawson]

Let's also keep in mind, they lost to Southern Illinois...by 1...in OT...going for 2.

Apparently they weren't paying attention to our game against SIU the previous week. Don't go for 2 against the Salukis in OT. You won't get it and you will lose.



SDSU is going to roll WIU. The Jacks are a bad matchup for WIU.

All of this. If SDSU had won a close game against SIU, I think we might have had a little more of a chance, since they would still be feeling good after that and maybe look past us. Now, they're angry and we're demoralized after losing at Indiana State. I'm thinking this will be like our game against Montana (https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401328070).

[Professor Chaos]

Apparently they weren't paying attention to our game against SIU the previous week. Don't go for 2 against the Salukis in OT. You won't get it and you will lose.
That's why SIU is still kind of an engima to me. Talented for sure especially on offense their talent is on par with anyone in the FCS but they're basically 2 coin flips away from being 2-3 right now.

[TheKingpin28]

On the road with BFINWMN and we see Jedre Cyr driving the truck.

I leaned out over the window to give him the horns. Jedre belted his horn in appreciation. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211015/51efb40e011878be20b58eda2b070046.jpg

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[Houndawg]

That's why SIU is still kind of an engima to me. Talented for sure especially on offense their talent is on par with anyone in the FCS but they're basically 2 coin flips away from being 2-3 right now.

All the bounces haven't gone our way although some big ones have - we did beat SDSU without two All-Americans at CB and WR and our starting C. But our running game does not fill me with confidence.

[BisonFan02]

The Bison don't have a QB capable of winning a natty. It's only a matter of time before a decent team exploits that.

[Professor Chaos]

The Bison don't have a QB capable of winning a natty. It's only a matter of time before a decent team exploits that.
I'd tend to agree... their remaining schedule is pretty favorable though with the only real tough game left being in Brookings. That said they could lose any of their remaining games (except maybe Indiana St at home) because I have zero confidence in this team's ability to come back from any meaningful deficit... they haven't had to do that yet so we don't know for sure but I think the combination of inconsistent accuracy from the QB and horrid/unimaginative play calling would be too much to overcome.

That said if the defense keeps playing like they have been who knows how far they can ride their pedestrian offense... you'd have to think the defense will have a slip up sooner or later though.

[Bison56]

The Bison don't have a QB capable of winning a natty. It's only a matter of time before a decent team exploits that.

You dont think they can win by just running the QB every play? Play calling is totally predictable.

[acbearkat]

I'd tend to agree... their remaining schedule is pretty favorable though with the only real tough game left being in Brookings. That said they could lose any of their remaining games (except maybe Indiana St at home) because I have zero confidence in this team's ability to come back from any meaningful deficit... they haven't had to do that yet so we don't know for sure but I think the combination of inconsistent accuracy from the QB and horrid/unimaginative play calling would be too much to overcome.

That said if the defense keeps playing like they have been who knows how far they can ride their pedestrian offense... you'd have to think the defense will have a slip up sooner or later though.

The defending national champions were in that position in the spring. Too many times in the spring, the offense bogged down, and defense had to make plays.


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[Professor Chaos]

Just realized that YSU only has a 10 game scheduled this fall... what's up with that? Not that they're likely to be in playoff contention but if they finish 5-5 or 6-4 they'll really have screwed their own pooch by not scheduling that 11th game.

On a related note, their stretch run is brutal: vs SDSU, @UND, vs NDSU, @SIU.