Ancient 8?

[HensRock]

Here is a trivia question for you:

8 FCS institutions are older than the U.S.A., meaning that the schools were actually founded before July 4, 1776. (Incidently, I don't think any FBS institutions can make that claim.)

Name them.

Hint: Not all of them are Ivies.

[Go...gate]

William & Mary is one.

[OL FU]

William & Mary is one.


You got the one I knew:p

[OL FU]

I will say University of Delaware since hensrock started thisxsmiley_wix

[OL FU]

Oh yeah, Harvard

That's it for me

[GGASU]

Here is a trivia question for you:

8 FCS institutions are older than the U.S.A., meaning that the schools were actually founded before July 4, 1776. (Incidently, I don't think any FBS institutions can make that claim.)

Name them.

Hint: Not all of them are Ivies.

Harvard, Yale, Penn, William and Mary, Princton, Columbia, Brown, Dartmouth.....

Rutgers (FBS)

[HensRock]

Actually, I just found a 9th!
Oh well. "Ancient 8" had such a nice ring to it too. :D

[HensRock]

Harvard, Yale, Penn, William and Mary, Princton, Columbia, Brown, Dartmouth.....

Rutgers (FBS)


Good catch on Rutgers. I forgot about them. And your 8 FCS are correct also - but as stated above, I found a 9th.

[laxVik]

Ok...name the oldest one west of the Mississippi.

[blur2005]

Harvard, William & Mary, Penn, Dartmouth, Yale, Columbia, Brown, and Princeton.

EDIT: So Rutgers as well

[HensRock]

Harvard, William & Mary, Penn, Dartmouth, Yale, Columbia, Penn, and Princeton

And the 9th FCS team?

[HensRock]

Ok...name the oldest one west of the Mississippi.

Interesting angle. DO you know the answer, or are you just asking?

Arkansas-Pine Bluff and S.E. Missouri State were both founded in 1873, I don't know which was first, or if there might be an older one.

[HensRock]

Well they've all been named, so I'll spill it. And OL FU guessed the ringer - DAMN YOU! xthumbsupx

Here are the NINE:

Harvard - 1636 xbowx
Wm. & Mary - 1693
Yale - 1701
Penn - 1740
Delaware - 1743
Princeton - 1746
Columbia - 1754
Brown - 1764
Dartmouth - 1769

[DFW HOYA]

Georgetown once claimed it was founded in 1634, but it's since been moved to 1789.

[MplsBison]

Ok...name the oldest one west of the Mississippi.

Washington?

[laxVik]

Interesting angle. DO you know the answer, or are you just asking?

Arkansas-Pine Bluff and S.E. Missouri State were both founded in 1873, I don't know which was first, or if there might be an older one.I do know it....I believe it's Saint Louis University founded in 1818. The oldest uni on the west coast is Willamette in Salem Oregon founded in 1842.

[james_lawfirm]

UNC Tarheels - No WAIT - They're FBS (aren't they?)

[Go...gate]

Are we leaving out Rutgers (1766) because it is I-A?

[MplsBison]

I believe it's Saint Louis University founded in 1818.

I'll be darned:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Louis_University


It is the oldest university west of the Mississippi River founded by the Society of Jesus in 1818.


I would've thought that Washington would've been the oldest school in Saint Louis seeing how they're an elite research school in the AAU.

[Tealblood]

an interesting bet I had just this past year concerned this
My dad and I every year place a bet on all of the collgee bowl games with the determinant being some arbitrary fact. The bet is $5.00 a game and seldom gets out of hand. An example of some of the bets have been the age of the head coach, Which school is further east or west, which school is more north than south, dark jerseys v. light, dark pants v light, we change the game every year. We are about out of ideas. This year it was age of the institution my dad had the older I had the younger

Older 2006-07 Bowl Bet Younger
TCU 1868 Poinsettia Bowl* 19-Dec-06 Northern Illinois 1899
BYU 1875 Las Vegas Bowl* 21-Dec-06 Oregon 1876
Troy 1887 New Orleans Bowl* 22-Dec-06 Rice 1891
San Jose State 1857 New Mexico Bowl* 23-Dec-06 New Mexico 1889
East Carolina 1907 Papajohns.com Bowl* 23-Dec-06 South Florida 1965
Utah 1850 Armed Forces Bowl* 23-Dec-06 Tulsa 1894
Arizona State 1885 Hawaii Bowl* 24-Dec-06 Hawaii 1907
Central Michigan 1892 Motor City Bowl* 26-Dec-06 Middle Tennessee 1911
Florida State 1823 Emerald Bowl* 27-Dec-06 UCLA** * 1919
Alabama 1831 Independence Bowl* 27-Dec-06 Oklahoma State 1890
California 1868 Holiday Bowl* 28-Dec-06 Texas A&M 1876
Rutgers 1766 Texas Bowl* 28-Dec-06 Kansas State 1858
Maryland 1862 Champs Sports Bowl* 29-Dec-06 Purdue 1869
Kentucky 1865 Music City Bowl* 29-Dec-06 Clemson* 1893
Missouri 1846 Sun Bowl* 29-Dec-06 Oregon State** 1858
Minnesota 1857 Insight Bowl* 29-Dec-06 Texas Tech 1924
South Carolina 1805 Liberty Bowl* 29-Dec-06 Houston 1927
Texas 1839 Alamo Bowl* 30-Dec-06 Iowa 1847
Nevada 1865 MPC Computers Bowl* 30-Dec-06 Miami 1925
Navy 1845 Meineke Car Care Bowl* 30-Dec-06 Boston College 1863
Georgia 1785 Chick-fil-A Bowl* 30-Dec-06 Virginia Tech 1872
West Virginia** ** 1867 Gator Bowl* 1-Jan-07 Georgia Tech 1885
Auburn 1856 Cotton Bowl* 1-Jan-07 Nebraska 1869
Tennessee 1794 Outback Bowl* 1-Jan-07 Penn State 1855
Wisconsin 1848 Capital One Bowl* 1-Jan-07 Arkansas 1871
Cincinnati 1819 International Bowl* 6-Jan-07 Western Michigan 1903
Ohio 1804 GMAC Bowl* 7-Jan-07 Southern Miss 1910
BCS GAMES
Michigan 1817 Rose Bowl* 1-Jan-07 USC 1879
Oklahoma 1890 Fiesta Bowl* 1-Jan-07 Boise State 1931
Louisville 1798 Orange Bowl* 2-Jan-07 Wake Forest 1834
Notre Dame 1842 Sugar Bowl* 3-Jan-07 LSU 1860
Florida 1853 BCS Championship Game* 8-Jan-07 Ohio State 1870

[patssle]

SHSU has the oldest building still used west of the Miss. River.

[Maverick]

What school holds the oldest charter for a college in America?

[Maverick]

BS Bison,
Nice logic! Washington U. is an elite research university in the AAU so it must be older than SLU. So when confronted with the choice between two universities the older one is better? It is this type of thinking that seems to produce many of your positions!

[Tealblood]

what I found amazing is how close some were
BYU-Oregon 1875-1876
Maryland- Purdue few years
Troy- Rice few years

and if you don't think this was hard it was a b***** some schools have the date in the logo those were easy most i had to dig thru their website.

I think remembering now I won $20.00

[Pard4Life]

Here is a trivia question for you:

8 FCS institutions are older than the U.S.A., meaning that the schools were actually founded before July 4, 1776. (Incidently, I don't think any FBS institutions can make that claim.)

Name them.

Hint: Not all of them are Ivies.

OK... I PROMISE I did not look at the thread, only the first... as I was thinking this was a preseason poll question..

1. Harvard 1636
2. William and Mary 1693 or 2
3. Yale 1701
4. Penn 1740 or so
5. College of NJ (Princeton 1740 or so)
6. Dartmouth 1763
7. Queen's College (Rutgers 1760s or 1750s)
8. King's College (Columbia) 1750s - John Jay went there is all I know, so it had to have been an origonal...

Rutgers used to be 'elite'.. they are a model on not how to run a school..

[Pard4Life]

Well they've all been named, so I'll spill it. And OL FU guessed the ringer - DAMN YOU! xthumbsupx

Here are the NINE:

Harvard - 1636 xbowx
Wm. & Mary - 1693
Yale - 1701
Penn - 1740
Delaware - 1743
Princeton - 1746
Columbia - 1754
Brown - 1764
Dartmouth - 1769


Delaware eh? Hmm never would have guessed... makes sense though.. first state and one needs a school!

And do note, Princeton Columbia Dartmouth and Rutgers are not the origonal names... I think Dartmouth is something Indian College..

[Seawolf97]

OK... I PROMISE I did not look at the thread, only the first... as I was thinking this was a preseason poll question..

1. Harvard 1636
2. William and Mary 1693 or 2
3. Yale 1701
4. Penn 1740 or so
5. College of NJ (Princeton 1740 or so)
6. Dartmouth 1763
7. Queen's College (Rutgers 1760s or 1750s)
8. King's College (Columbia) 1750s - John Jay went there is all I know, so it had to have been an origonal...

Rutgers used to be 'elite'.. they are a model on not how to run a school..

Kings College/Columbia grad- Alexander Hamilton

[Pard4Life]

Kings College/Columbia grad- Alexander Hamilton

Hmm really? Interesting.. I'll have to read the book on him..

[HensRock]

Are we leaving out Rutgers (1766) because it is I-A?

Correct. The orginal question asked for 8 FCS institutions, but I blew it - there are actually 9.

Cornell is the only Ivy that doesn't make the cut.
It seems like Rutgers is the only one for FBS. Someone mentioned UNC, but they are 1789 - same year as Georgetown, (and the year George Washington took office as the first President of USA.)

[bostonspider]

Delaware is sort of an interesting case, as it was not chartered as a college until the 1800's. Here is the history from Wikipedia

"The University of Delaware traces its founding to 1743, when Presbyterian minister Francis Alison opened up his "Free School" in his home in New London, Pennsylvania. The school changed its name and location several times, ending up as the Academy of Newark in 1769 (chartered by the colonial government). Since Delaware was part of the Pennsylvania colony until 1776, the academy was denied charter as a college in order to prevent its competing with the University of Pennsylvania. In 1833, the General assembly for the State of Delaware passed the "An Act to Establish a College at Newark", and the next year, Newark College opened. It changed its name in 1843 to Delaware College and it merged with the Academy of Newark. The school closed from 1859 until 1870 (Newark Academy separated from the college in 1869). On March 28, 1921, by another act of state assembly, it merged with the nearby Delaware Women's college (founded in 1913) to form the University."

Here is a link to the "Colonial Colleges"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_colleges

[Henny]

Another interesting fact about UD:

Its original class of 10 students included George Read, Thomas McKean, and James Smith, all three of whom would go on to sign the Declaration of Independence.

Now I wonder if any of these guys could play defense. If so, we could have used them last year if they were still alive.

BTW they probably thought New London was in "Delaware" it's close enough.

[ngineer]

Well they've all been named, so I'll spill it. And OL FU guessed the ringer - DAMN YOU! xthumbsupx

Here are the NINE:

Harvard - 1636 xbowx
Wm. & Mary - 1693
Yale - 1701
Penn - 1740
Delaware - 1743
Princeton - 1746
Columbia - 1754
Brown - 1764
Dartmouth - 1769

Our local D-III school, Moravian College was founded in 1751, I believe. I know they are the 6th oldest college in the US---They're joining the Centennial Conference this year with Johns Hopkins, Muhlenberg, Gettysburg, Ursinus, Dickinson, etc.

[ngineer]

Another interesting fact about UD:

Its original class of 10 students included George Read, Thomas McKean, and James Smith, all three of whom would go on to sign the Declaration of Independence.

Now I wonder if any of these guys could play defense. If so, we could have used them last year if they were still alive.

BTW they probably thought New London was in "Delaware" it's close enough.


Chief Justice of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court...and a guy with Easton roots...

[catbob]

All I remember about Rutgers is when I was taking my SAT, I looked a list of colleges and their respective minimum scores, and Rutgers I believe had a 900.