Selection Sunday (Spring) 2021

[Professor Chaos]

Selection Show just started on ESPNU. Tune in!

[Daytripper]

Jay Walker fans can rejoice!!!

[katss07]

I love Jay Walker

[TheKingpin28]

Jay Walker must be crying internally since MEAC is out. He will probably be mad if Southern is left out too

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[TheKingpin28]

SDSU deserved that 1 seed

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[melloware13]

SHSU at #2. JMU must have been really dropped

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

KC Keller...lol

I'm surprised SDSU got the top seed....

[Professor Chaos]

SDSU/SHSU are 1/2. Well deserved IMO.

[kdinva]

Love Jay Walker's hair dye, and Andre ware calling the SHSU coach "Coach Keller"

[melloware13]

JMU #3. I guess Weber at 4

[Bisonator]

Walker shocked, shocked I tell ya!xlolx

[TheKingpin28]

The fact that Delaware isn't above JMU is a joke

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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Jacksonville State the 4 seed! wow....

[dewey]

SDSU/SHSU are 1/2. Well deserved IMO.

Agreed.

Dewey

[HensRock]

Wow. No Weber in top 4 ?

[SonuvaHenx2]

Jax as a seed? 🤨

[dewey]

Jacksonville State the 4 seed! wow....

WTF? Above Delaware and JMU. Wow indeed.

Dewey

[Professor Chaos]

Wow... JSU the #4 seed. That's shocking to me... they must've given them a lot of credit for wins in the fall.

What does that mean for Missouri St who is hoping the committee doesn't take fall games much into account??? Of course their AD is the committee chair...

[Bisonator]

JSU the only surprise seed to me but not a real shocker knowing the committee does stuff like that every year.

[TheKingpin28]

I am laughing that these "commentators" believe JMU should be #1. We all knew they didnt deserve the #1. This is why AGS is the best in relation to all the other polls.

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[melloware13]

With JSU as a seed I'd look for Missouri State to be out if they're being consistent

[Professor Chaos]

Kinda looks like the committee gave a bit of a knock to conferences that didn't attempt to play a round robin schedule so the top teams missed each other. No seeds for Delaware or Weber St.

[Daytripper]

I am laughing that these "commentators" believe JMU should be #1. We all knew they didnt deserve the #1. This is why AGS is the best in relation to all the other polls.

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Yep. There are committee members who lurk on AGS...

[TheKingpin28]

Delaware or Weber deserved that 4 seed. Now watch them put NDSU in the same quadrant as SDSU. You know they can't wait to do that! Also, watch them put EWU with NDSU with the winner going to Brookings.

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[Bisonator]

I am laughing that these "commentators" believe JMU should be #1. We all knew they didnt deserve the #1. This is why AGS is the best in relation to all the other polls.

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These espn hacks just look at the polls they don't pay attention to actual games or who teams play. They don't care enough to do any research.

[BNATION]

WTF? Above Delaware and JMU. Wow indeed.

Dewey
Unreal having JSU as a top 4 seed.....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I love it! Holy Cross gets their shot at the big dog!!

[TheKingpin28]

Yep. There are committee members who lurk on AGS...I'd have to believe so cause we all knew what it should look like. Why don't they just admit they truly believe the STATS poll and Coaches have no bearing on their votes?

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[TheKingpin28]

These espn hacks just look at the polls they don't pay attention to actual games or who teams play. They don't care enough to do any research.Exactly. If Southern isn't in, watch Jay Walker lose his ****

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[Bisonator]

SIU is in! WOW!

[Professor Chaos]

SIU in!

5 MVFC in then???

[TheKingpin28]

SDSU, should they win, is getting bent for having to play the winner of SIU vs Weber St

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[BNATION]

Weber and Delaware got $&@!#+

[TheKingpin28]

SIU in!

5 MVFC in then???Could be!

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[katss07]

SIU is IN! Wow! Probably means Richmond, ETSU and Kennesaw aren't in.

[Bisonator]

I love it! Holy Cross gets their shot at the big dog!!
They will get crushed.

[TheKingpin28]

They will get crushed.But knowing they have to play either SIU or Weber St sucks for them, should SDSU win (which I'd have to believe they will).

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[Bisonator]

NDSU on the opposite side of the bracket from SDSU. Match up with JMU maybe.

[Professor Chaos]

Geez.... who does JSU have pictures of on the committee.... get the #4 seed and they get Davidson in the first round.

[TheKingpin28]

So JMU and NDSU are in the bottom half with SHSU. That bottom half is an absolute bloodbath. SDSU has their chance to finally get to Frisco uninterrupted.

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[katss07]

Please send us NDSU.

[TheKingpin28]

No one should interrupt SDSU to Frisco. Delaware or SIU would be the only teams that could stop them.

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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Sucks that VMI has to play JMU but it makes too much sense....

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Are the Bison in?!?!

[Bisonator]

UND and Mo state get the game they wanted haha

[BNATION]

This bracket is bottom heavy. Jesus.

[Professor Chaos]

5 MVFC teams in.... wow!

[TheKingpin28]

NDSU is in the SHSU quadrant. Damn, wanted the Missery St/UND quadrant to be eith NDSU.

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[caribbeanhen]

Geez.... who does JSU have pictures of on the committee.... get the #4 seed and they get Davidson in the first round.

lol

I would love Delaware to be able to play Jacksonville St

[Bisonator]

EWU coming to Fargo. Figured that was gonna happen.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wow! EWU vs NDSU is one helluva matchup!! The Eagles have been flying the under the radar big time...

[kdinva]

EWU @ Bizon.........????

[TheKingpin28]

NDSU gets absolutely ****ed by getting EWU

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[kdinva]

no Spiders, 'Nova,

[TheKingpin28]

There was zero reason why NDSU could not have gotten an easier opponent.

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[SonuvaHenx2]

lol

I would love Delaware to be able to play Jacksonville St

Definitely don't hate the Hens' potential path

[Bisonator]

Bottom half is brutal. SDSU should make it to Frisco but they'll probably choke as usual.

[crusader11]

I love it! Holy Cross gets their shot at the big dog!!

The PL screwed us. I have to think that, by virtue of only being able to play three games, we were automatically slotted into the 16 seed.

Also, so much for regionalization.

[TheKingpin28]

NDSU deserves what they got for not winning but man, really? Could not have given NDSU anyone else.

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[TheKingpin28]

So what would NDSU be hypothetically, the 5 seed and EWU the 6 seed? Hot damn...

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[Professor Chaos]

So what would NDSU be hypothetically, the 5 seed and EWU the 6 seed? Hot damn...

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6 of the top 8 teams in this morning's AGS Poll release on the bottom side of the bracket.

[SonuvaHenx2]

So what would NDSU be hypothetically, the 5 seed and EWU the 6 seed? Hot damn...

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If you give numbers to all 16...this would be 7 vs 10

[kdinva]

First Coach interview was Coach Wach!!!!!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The PL screwed us. I have to think that, by virtue of only being able to play three games, we were automatically slotted into the 16 seed.

Also, so much for regionalization.

The PL had nothing to do with it outside of the league generally being terrible. HC, Monmouth, SHU and Davidson are nothing more than place holders/bracket fillers.

The Crusaders have a chance to make a statement heading into the fall. Even a moral victory will go a long way to national legitimacy. With that said I think SDSU will win by 20-24 points....

[taper]

In a year where we have almost no inter conference games to gauge relative strength, giving 5/6 to my MVFC is a travesty. Other than that not much to complain about this bracket.

[TheKingpin28]

If you give numbers to all 16...this would be 7 vs 10I was being facetious. NDSU deserves it for losing 2 games but the fact that the bottom half is murders row and the top half is a cakewalk.

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[GAD]

Next weekend is going to be fun!

[Winterborn]

There was zero reason why NDSU could not have gotten an easier opponent.

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[BNATION]

Hopefully for NDSU in Huntsville! See y’all at tailgate!

[Bisonator]

Surprised SIU got in and 5 valley teams.

[Professor Chaos]

I was being facetious. NDSU deserves it for losing 2 games but the fact that the bottom half is murders row and the top half is a cakewalk.

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Still a lot can off the field happen also to completely shake up the bracket... I'd say the chances we can get 15 games in over the next 4 weeks without any COVID related forfeits is slim.

I hope they ask the committee chair what happens if both teams in a particular matchup have COVID issues... it's certainly possible.

[crusader11]

The PL had nothing to do with it outside of the league generally being terrible. HC, Monmouth, SHU and Davidson are nothing more than place holders/bracket fillers.

The Crusaders have a chance to make a statement heading into the fall. Even a moral victory will go a long way to national legitimacy. With that said I think SDSU will win by 20-24 points....

The COVID rules were absolutely ridiculous and prevented HC from playing additional games. Had they gone 5-0, they’re not playing SDSU.

[Daytripper]

Well, if Sam Houston wins it all I don't think anybody can talk about how soft they are anymore.

[skinny_uncle]

I am a Saluki fan and am surprised to see us get in. I didn't think there was any way they would take this many Valley teams.

[TheKingpin28]

Meh, I am good with it. We either take care of business (remains to be seen if we can) or we don't deserve to be there.Which is why we got what we deserved.

The fact that it could theoretically be EWU, SHSU, JMU, and SDSU on the way to the Frisco is cracking me up.

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[Professor Chaos]

Richmond and Kennesaw not even amongst the first 4 out.

[TheKingpin28]

Still a lot can off the field happen also to completely shake up the bracket... I'd say the chances we can get 15 games in over the next 4 weeks without any COVID related forfeits is slim.

I hope they ask the committee chair what happens if both teams in a particular matchup have COVID issues... it's certainly possible.It's going to be interesting but that bottom half is way heavier compared to the top half.

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[The Eagle's Cliff]

I've been enjoying watching some FCS this spring. I'm shocked to see Holy Cross, Davidson, Monmouth, Sacred Heart being 25% of the field. Looks like we all might be getting closer to 1978 again when D1 football divided financially. I think new rules and playoff format are going to lead to G5 being a separate division in which case many bigger FCS schools will join G5. Anyway, I'm looking forward to watching playoffs and seeing what transfer portal looks like.

[kdinva]

Surprised SIU got in and 5 valley teams.

me too

[TheKingpin28]

Richmond and Kennesaw not even amongst the first 4 out.Nor Nova. That SIU OOC win at the end of the season was huge.

Also, JMU turning down SIU may have impacted their seeding by avoiding games.

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[kdinva]

It's going to be interesting but that bottom half is way heavier compared to the top half.


no doubt.

[TheKingpin28]

no doubt.Want to come to Fargo and we can send EWU to JMU?

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[MSUDuo]

Son of a b**ch, they actually did it

[taper]

The #2 seed quadrant has 12 of the last 20 teams to appear in the championship game.

[TheKingpin28]

Here comes the douche coach at JMU.

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[TheKingpin28]

Oh **** off Curt. You literally sound like the biggest baby right now. I hope you get smacked by Monmouth.

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[Bisonator]

Lol Cignetti saying they backed off in games. xlolx

[Daytripper]

Oh **** off Curt. You literally sound like the biggest baby right now. I hope you get smacked by Monmouth.

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JMU gets VMI. Sam Houston plays Monmouth.

[TheKingpin28]

JMU gets VMI. Sam Houston plays Monmouth.Yep, my bad. Still, let's be honest, he gets his panties in a wad when those who actually watch the games knew they didnt deserve a top 2 seed

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[ysubigred]

Son of a b**ch, they actually did itFrigging awesome! Congrats to the Bear fans. Bigger Congrats to the players. Now make some noise!!

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[taper]

I don't like the game times. 5/8 games should be easy wins, the 3 that might be competitive are all at the same time.

[Daytripper]

Yep, my bad. Still, let's be honest, he gets his panties in a wad when those who actually watch the games knew they didnt deserve a top 2 seed

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I agree. I hope VMI rolls the Dukes.

[Professor Chaos]

Yep, my bad. Still, let's be honest, he gets his panties in a wad when those who actually watch the games knew they didnt deserve a top 2 seed

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Coaches love to play the disrespect card. The funny thing is he mentioned how he already played the disrespect card last night when the CAA ADs voted to give Delaware the AQ. Now that the committee vindicated that "snub" by seeding them instead of Delaware he's gotta find a new disrespect card to play.

I'd be more pissed if I was Danny Rocco. But, like I said earlier, I think the committee knocked those leagues who didn't even attempt to play a round robin schedule. JMU and Delaware missed each other. Weber St and EWU missed each other. I think had those games happened the winner of those matchups would've found themselves treated with the same respect that SDSU and JSU were.

[Cocky]

Geez.... who does JSU have pictures of on the committee.... get the #4 seed and they get Davidson in the first round.

Davidson makes sense, not sure the seed does.

Could be the ability to have a good attendance number? Not saying its right but it is what it is.

[Hammerhead]

Finishing 4th in the conference is why NDSU has a tough draw.


There was zero reason why NDSU could not have gotten an easier opponent.

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[kdinva]

Now ESPN is talking about a player NOT playing this month, no disrespect to Lantz.

[Bison56]

Get the tissues out for the JMU fans

[Professor Chaos]

Now ESPN is talking about a player NOT playing this month, no disrespect to Lantz.
Just rubbing salt in the wound for us Bison fans....

[Libertine]

I'd be more pissed if I was Danny Rocco.

NOBODY plays the disrespect card with his own players as effectively as DR. I feel bad for Sacred Heart because the Hens are going to look at this game as sending a message.

[melloware13]

NOBODY plays the disrespect card with his own players as effectively as DR. I feel bad for Sacred Heart because the Hens are going to look at this game as sending a message.
And while nobody involved with the team was around in 2014, he can try to use the fact that Sacred Heart has won in Newark as added motivation (granted coming off the first undefeated regular season since 1972 in school history and having a reasonable shot to the semis should be motivation enough).

[Hammerhead]

Now ESPN is talking about a player NOT playing this month, no disrespect to Lantz.

That seemed pretty disrespectful to everyone playing this spring. It's the selection show, not let's talk about great FCS players from the past.

[Gil Dobie]

Congrats to all the teams in the Sweet 16!

[OhioHen]

There was zero reason why NDSU could not have gotten an easier opponent.

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There was zero reason NDSU shouldn't have gone on the road as the third place MVFC team. At EWU comes to mind.

[BisonTru]

There was zero reason NDSU shouldn't have gone on the road as the third place MVFC team. At EWU comes to mind.

Yes there is .... money.

[BisonTru]

I don’t mind NDSUs draw. Home game then the paper kitties.

[katss07]

I don’t mind NDSUs draw. Home game then the paper kitties.
lol, you can't actually believe NDSU is beating Eastern, right?

[jsualumnus]

JSU the only surprise seed to me but not a real shocker knowing the committee does stuff like that every year.

thank God our AD isn’t the Chairman anymore. Still, not surprised on the committee, but I’m shocked we are a seed. Wish we weren’t because we all know how that goes!

[jsualumnus]

Geez.... who does JSU have pictures of on the committee.... get the #4 seed and they get Davidson in the first round.
Dude... Choked on my coffee! Good one, and 100% spot on! Remember, historically, JSU doesn’t fair so well against the triple option.

[BisonTru]

lol, you can't actually believe NDSU is beating Eastern, right?

Yeah what was I thinking. We tend to struggle at home. Maybe if the unthinkable happens I can grab a copy of "Sammy fans football bible: Including 50 recipes for crow."

[JSUSoutherner]

Geez.... who does JSU have pictures of on the committee.... get the #4 seed and they get Davidson in the first round.

Don't worry. If Grass has proven anything it's that his teams can lose to anyone.

I said after the Austin Peay game that if this team put it's mind to it that we could lose to 11 folding chairs. Davidson may be non-scholly, but they are considerably better than folding chairs.

Looking forward to watching Grass piss away another postseason.

[Houndawg]

SDSU, should they win, is getting bent for having to play the winner of SIU vs Weber St

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I would guess their ideal would be SIU knocking of Weber since they've already kicked the **** out of SIU on the road

[ysubigred]

Anyone seen the bracket yet?

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[Houndawg]

SIU is IN! Wow! Probably means Richmond, ETSU and Kennesaw aren't in.

Richmond's body of work was not playoff-worthy.

[caribbeanhen]

NDSU deserves what they got for not winning but man, really? Could not have given NDSU anyone else.

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Could’ve given them a nice road trip while they disinfected the Fargodome of all those fleas

[SteelSD]

I think there are a number of teams looking at what SIU/SE L did and thinking they should have done the same thing instead of resting on their laurels. Both those teams proved they wanted to be there and it’s good to see that the winner was rewarded.

[Schism55]

Few thoughts I'm sure have already been mentioned, but here goes...

Bottom half of the bracket is insanely loaded.
Weber St. got hosed, big time.
Jax St got a seed??? They clearly have blackmail stuffs on committee members lol

Finally, Karate Kid style.... All Valley final? xsmiley_wix

[nickp]

Holy Cross played 3 games 3 games played is ridiculous

[Daytripper]

I think there are a number of teams looking at what SIU/SE L did and thinking they should have done the same thing instead of resting on their laurels. Both those teams proved they wanted to be there and it’s good to see that the winner was rewarded.

^^^^THIS^^^^

[KPSUL]

Richmond's body of work was not playoff-worthy.

They only had half a body.

[caribbeanhen]

I think there are a number of teams looking at what SIU/SE L did and thinking they should have done the same thing instead of resting on their laurels. Both those teams proved they wanted to be there and it’s good to see that the winner was rewarded.

I mentioned that that game was a play in game.... maybe more to SLA SIU match up than meets the eye..... like it was a set up ...

[SUPharmacist]

I think there are a number of teams looking at what SIU/SE L did and thinking they should have done the same thing instead of resting on their laurels. Both those teams proved they wanted to be there and it’s good to see that the winner was rewarded.

I was happy to see it. Hopefully we can avoid Covid knocking teams out of the playoffs but I am not holding my breath.

[katss07]

JMU fans are comedy. Angry about not being higher than SDSU or Sam? Shouldn't have ducked SIU.

Dukes had the 74th toughest schedule in the nation, their best win is over Richmond and they needed a late comeback to beat Elon by 3. Delaware has a better resume, yet they're nowhere to be found on the seeding line.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

There was zero reason NDSU shouldn't have gone on the road as the third place MVFC team. At EWU comes to mind.

I am pretty sure EWU would not have even put a competitive bid in this time as they are in some trouble right now as documented around here.

[Professor Chaos]

JMU fans are comedy. Angry about not being higher than SDSU or Sam? Shouldn't have ducked SIU.

Dukes had the 74th toughest schedule in the nation, their best win is over Richmond and they needed a late comeback to beat Elon by 3. Delaware has a better resume, yet they're nowhere to be found on the seeding line.
I think they should blame their conference office for not trying to put together more of a round robin schedule instead of sticking them in 4 team division. They took an already bad situation with super insulated schedules and made it even worse. Another win for JMU against a team like Rhode Island, Maine, Villanova, or Delaware could've been a big boost I think.

[Chalupa Batman]

JMU fans are comedy. Angry about not being higher than SDSU or Sam? Shouldn't have ducked SIU.

Dukes had the 74th toughest schedule in the nation, their best win is over Richmond and they needed a late comeback to beat Elon by 3. Delaware has a better resume, yet they're nowhere to be found on the seeding line.

They were bent out of shape after Delaware got voted the AQ even though the Hens played a tougher CAA schedule than the Dukies and played better against that schedule. xsmhx "BuT wE'rE rAnKeD #1!"

[POD Knows]

Finishing 4th in the conference is why NDSU has a tough draw.This, we stink, we deserve a tough draw and an early exit. **** season all around and the stupid win over UND is meaningless, lost the winning streak, lost the home winning streak and lost the Dakota Marker, complete failure of a season. Not kidding, great expectations for this last fall, greatest team in Bison history, WTF happened, and don't blame it on Covid, transfer portal and losing a couple guys to the NFL, this team is not deep, apparently had two really ****ty recruiting classes and now we are a young team looking up at everybody else.

SDSU vs NDSU on Saturday looked like Alabama vs. Mizzou.

[Houndawg]

This, we stink, we deserve a tough draw and an early exit. **** season all around and the stupid win over UND is meaningless, lost the winning streak, lost the home winning streak and lost the Dakota Marker, complete failure of a season. Not kidding, great expectations for this last fall, greatest team in Bison history, WTF happened, and don't blame it on Covid, transfer portal and losing a couple guys to the NFL, this team is not deep, apparently had two really ****ty recruiting classes and now we are a young team looking up at everybody else.

SDSU vs NDSU on Saturday looked like Alabama vs. Mizzou.

The NC is pretty much SDSU's to lose

[Houndawg]

I mentioned that that game was a play in game.... maybe more to SLA SIU match up than meets the eye..... like it was a set up ...

Neither team is boring

[ysubigred]

1st round games..

DATES/SITES/PAIRINGS-FIRST-ROUND GAMES

April 24 at Brookings, South Dakota, 3 p.m. (ET) (ESPN3)
Holy Cross (3-0) at #1 South Dakota St. (5-1)
April 24 at Ogden, Utah, 4 p.m. (ET) (ESPN3)
Southern Ill. (5-3) at Weber St. (5-0)
April 24 at Newark, Delaware, 7 p.m. (ET) (ESPN3)
Sacred Heart (3-1) at Delaware (5-0)
April 24 at Jacksonville, Alabama, 2 p.m. (ET) (ESPN3)
Davidson (4-2) at #4 Jacksonville St. (9-2)
April 24 at Harrisonburg, Virginia, 2 p.m. (ET) (ESPN3)
VMI (6-1) at #3 James Madison (5-0)
April 24 at Grand Fork, North Dakota, 4 p.m. (ET) (ESPN3)
Missouri St. (5-4) at North Dakota (4-1)
April 24 at Fargo, North Dakota, 3:30 p.m. (ET) (ESPN3)
Eastern Wash. (5-1) at North Dakota St. (6-2)
April 24 at Huntsville, Texas, Noon (ET) (ESPN3)
Monmouth (3-0) at #2 Sam Houston (6-0)


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[Professor Chaos]

Looks like one of the national semis could be on ABC as well based on the NCAA.com bracket: https://www.ncaa.com/_flysystem/public-s3/files/2021_NCAA%20Division%20I%20Football%20Bracket.pdf? utm_campaign=inline-superpage

[TheKingpin28]

There was zero reason NDSU shouldn't have gone on the road as the third place MVFC team. At EWU comes to mind.Honestly, if NDSU loses to EWU, that would be ironic for the Decade of Dominance.

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[TheKingpin28]

I would guess their ideal would be SIU knocking of Weber since they've already kicked the **** out of SIU on the roadWouldn't surprise me to see SDSU choke this one away. They have a golden road to Frisco, let's see if they mess this one up.

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[Gil Dobie]

Well, if Sam Houston wins it all I don't think anybody can talk about how soft they are anymore.

Sam is #1 in the AGS Poll, I doubt anyone thinks they are soft.

[Gil Dobie]

There was zero reason NDSU shouldn't have gone on the road as the third place MVFC team. At EWU comes to mind.

Only the seeds get home field guaranteed, the non-seed games are up for best bid.

[Hammerhead]

Only if it ends in overtime with a non-fumble fumble and horrible personal foul called on the wrong team that killed a drive. In this video #10 pulls down a Bison lineman by the ankle after a play and a personal foul is called on NDSU. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsG4QKv6KOI


Honestly, if NDSU loses to EWU, that would be ironic for the Decade of Dominance.

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[Daytripper]

Sam is #1 in the AGS Poll, I doubt anyone thinks they are soft.

I agree that the AGS crowd has given the Bearkats their due this season, but I think there still is a perception among some who are less informed that based on previous seasons that they are soft. We have zero excuses this year and need to prove them wrong... North Dakota State AND Jane Madison in our bracket.... Win and shut everybody up.

[Preferred Walk-On]

I am a Saluki fan and am surprised to see us get in. I didn't think there was any way they would take this many Valley teams.

I am very surprised as well...squeaky wheel gets the grease, I guess. However, now SIU has the ability to show us something. Best of luck at Weber State.

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I agree that the AGS crowd has given the Bearkats their due this season, but I think there still is a perception among some who are less informed that based on previous seasons that they are soft. We have zero excuses this year and need to prove them wrong... North Dakota State AND Jane Madison in our bracket.... Win and shut everybody up.

Yes, that is exactly how it is done.

[caribbeanhen]

I am a Saluki fan and am surprised to see us get in. I didn't think there was any way they would take this many Valley teams.

The Sulakis get the Marty award this year

isn’t your guy on the committee?

[Preferred Walk-On]

JMU fans are comedy. Angry about not being higher than SDSU or Sam? Shouldn't have ducked SIU.

Once upon a time, there was a Redbirds team that had lost to a Bison team in the championship the previous year. Then the next year, they did not play in the regular season, finished with the same record, were basically split between common opponents (ISUr over USD, but lost to SDSU; NDSU vice versa), and were MVFC co-champs. The Redbirds got the #2 seed, NDSU #3 (possibly because it was unclear if Carson Wentz would play in the postseason). Interestingly, NDSU ended up playing all home playoff games that year. JMU fans that are hung up on this need to get over it, because who knows how it will work out. Control what you can control.

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The Sulakis get the Marty award this year

isn’t your guy on the committee?

Actually, they have laid out a new roadmap for getting into the postseason, so congratulations to them! Fortunately, the coach and AD whining about lost games due to midseason opt-outs to cover up not taking care of business when they needed to will probably not fly in the future (hopefully).

That said, I don't think they were as undeserving as some of those "Marty" teams selected in the past.

[Houndawg]

Actually, they have laid out a new roadmap for getting into the postseason, so congratulations to them! Fortunately, the coach and AD whining about lost games due to midseason opt-outs to cover up not taking care of business when they needed to will probably not fly in the future (hopefully).

That said, I don't think they were as undeserving as some of those "Marty" teams selected in the past.

7 of 8 games with AGS top 25 opponents, 4-3 against them. We earned our spot.

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7 of 8 games with AGS top 25 opponents, 4-3 against them. We earned our spot.

Please don’t end up 4-4.

I think SIU is a very solid team, and I hope they do well. Heck, would love to see a rematch of SIU v. NDSU in Frisco (wishful thinking, I suppose, maybe?).

I’m actually glad the pieces fell into place for SIU to make it, just turned off by “pay no attention to that man behind the curtain” thinly veiled as the “we played, so we should be in” approach. No matter now, as there are no excuses going forward. Carry on.


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[Houndawg]

Please don’t end up 4-4.

I think SIU is a very solid team, and I hope they do well. Heck, would love to see a rematch of SIU v. NDSU in Frisco (wishful thinking, I suppose, maybe?).

I’m actually glad the pieces fell into place for SIU to make it, just turned off by “pay no attention to that man behind the curtain” thinly veiled as the “we played, so we should be in” approach. No matter now, as there are no excuses going forward. Carry on.


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If thats the way it was meant, sure - but if it was meant in the spirit of "We should be in because our body of work speaks for itself" that's just telling the truth.

[Houndawg]

Please don’t end up 4-4.

I think SIU is a very solid team, and I hope they do well. Heck, would love to see a rematch of SIU v. NDSU in Frisco (wishful thinking, I suppose, maybe?).

I’m actually glad the pieces fell into place for SIU to make it, just turned off by “pay no attention to that man behind the curtain” thinly veiled as the “we played, so we should be in” approach. No matter now, as there are no excuses going forward. Carry on.


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I'll settle for playing well given our Jekyll/Hyde act this year

[HensRock]

So fall Wins count (see JSU)
but fall losses don't (see MSU)

Got it.

[JayJ79]

UNI had 4 losses this spring, all within one score (1-7 points, average 3.75), to 4 different playoff teams.

of course, "close doesn't count except in horseshoes and hand grenades", and UNI has struggled to win close games for years now.

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UNI had 4 losses this spring, all within one score (1-7 points, average 3.75), to 4 different playoff teams.

of course, "close doesn't count except in horseshoes and hand grenades", and UNI has struggled to win close games for years now.

If UNI had won by 1 pt instead of lost by 1 pt to SIU, then they would be a playoff team. “Ifs and buts”, I know, but that is the line we are talking about with SIU. I am MVFC-biased, and I am actually glad SIU was the 5th MVFC team selected to be in the playoffs (and believe the committee got it right on this one account), but let’s not pretend they weren’t the fifth best MVFC team.


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[skinny_uncle]

7 of 8 games with AGS top 25 opponents, 4-3 against them. We earned our spot.
That is probably more wins against ranked opponents than most of the seeds. I think it was a factor in their making the field. It was a killer schedule. I just hope they have enough healthy players to be competitive.

[skinny_uncle]

Please don’t end up 4-4.

I think SIU is a very solid team, and I hope they do well. Heck, would love to see a rematch of SIU v. NDSU in Frisco (wishful thinking, I suppose, maybe?).

I’m actually glad the pieces fell into place for SIU to make it, just turned off by “pay no attention to that man behind the curtain” thinly veiled as the “we played, so we should be in” approach. No matter now, as there are no excuses going forward. Carry on.


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Can't happen. The Salukis have 5 wins if you count their fall game against SEMO. At worst, they will end up with a winning season.

[JayJ79]

If UNI had won by 1 pt instead of lost by 1 pt to SIU, then they would be a playoff team.
nah, I don't think so.4-3 UNI would not get a bid, as they still wouldn't have had quality enough wins to overcome having 3 losses and being that low in the conference standings. It just would have knocked SIU out of playoff contention.

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Can't happen. The Salukis have 5 wins if you count their fall game against SEMO. At worst, they will end up with a winning season.

4-4 against AGS Top 25. SIU was 4-3 vs. AGS Top 25, right?


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[mmiller_34]

Didn't get a chance to watch the selection show yesterday. Watching it right now, woof, what a horrendous display by ESPN.

[SUPharmacist]

Didn't get a chance to watch the selection show yesterday. Watching it right now, woof, what a horrendous display by ESPN.

It was particularly interesting watching them slam SDSU then back off and say they earned it then double down on questioning them getting the #1 seed.

It is good to see the selection show on TV but when it is led by people so clueless to the FCS it just looks bad. I turned it off after the field/games were announced was it better when they talked to people more familiar with the FCS.

[Serpentor]

I think they should blame their conference office for not trying to put together more of a round robin schedule instead of sticking them in 4 team division. They took an already bad situation with super insulated schedules and made it even worse. Another win for JMU against a team like Rhode Island, Maine, Villanova, or Delaware could've been a big boost I think.

If they get blown out in the first round, are they James Badison?

[mmiller_34]

It was particularly interesting watching them slam SDSU then back off and say they earned it then double down on questioning them getting the #1 seed.

It is good to see the selection show on TV but when it is led by people so clueless to the FCS it just looks bad. I turned it off after the field/games were announced was it better when they talked to people more familiar with the FCS.

The commentaries looked so uncomfortable with presenting on the FCS.

[OhioHen]

The commentaries looked so uncomfortable with presenting on the FCS.

If the teams selected had been Grambling, Southern, North Carolina A&T, South Carolina State, Jackson State, Hampton, etc. then Jay Walker would have been right at home.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Sam is #1 in the AGS Poll, I doubt anyone thinks they are soft.

That is what I was thinking too. When we have had them lower and they were ranked quite a bit higher that was the only times when I would see people around here make statements like that. If we are the ones saying they seem to be our legit #1 then I think it is hard not to see that as AGS boters believing they are odds on tough enough to carry the flag for FCS.

If some SHSU fans believed in something we did not and they dislike what we have promoted as our theory in the past they would need to show us where we were wrong on that one but I think we've done fairly well calling our shots. I think that bodes well for SHSU going far and not getting blown out etc. and making this playoff a memorable one for their fans.

[skinny_uncle]

4-4 against AGS Top 25. SIU was 4-3 vs. AGS Top 25, right?


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I thought you were talking overall record. Youngstown was the only team SIU played who was not ranked when they played.

[SUPharmacist]

If the teams selected had been Grambling, Southern, North Carolina A&T, South Carolina State, Jackson State, Hampton, etc. then Jay Walker would have been right at home.

I know Walker gets scheduled for HBCU games a lot, but out of curiosity do you know if they partner him with other HBCU experts or does he get paired with individuals who look as clueless about HBCUs as he does on the broader FCS. Hopefully his partners are up to speed on those games and we can move that way on these games.

Even if we have individuals who do not follow or care about the FCS I would like to see individuals who do their research out of sheer professionalism. The main selection component of the show was just embarrassing, and regardless of how good those individuals are for other roles within ESPN they should be ashamed of the job they did.

[HensRock]

Kinda looks like the committee gave a bit of a knock to conferences that didn't attempt to play a round robin schedule so the top teams missed each other. No seeds for Delaware or Weber St.

Professor, I don't understand why that would be a beef. CAA is a 12-team League. We don't play a full round-robin schedule even in a normal 11 or 12 game season.
The MVFC now has 11 teams, surely they don't either.

As a Delaware fan, I was not expecting a seed. Of course what Coach Rocco and the team thinks might be a totally different story. But I'm pretty happy with our draw in what would otherwise be the "#5" slot. REALLY happy to not be in that lower half of the bracket. SHeeesh!

I though Weber deserved a seed though.
Was expecting to see JMU at #1
I do feel that UD deserved the AQ over JMU, but Conference rankings and National rankings are two completely independent things.

Delaware has done exactly squat in the playoffs in recent memory, so I don't think we've earned a seed. Like I said, I'm happy with our position.

[Professor Chaos]

Professor, I don't understand why that would be a beef. CAA is a 12-team League. We don't play a full round-robin schedule even in a normal 11 or 12 game season.
The MVFC now has 11 teams, surely they don't either.

As a Delaware fan, I was not expecting a seed. Of course what Coach Rocco and the team thinks might be a totally different story. But I'm pretty happy with our draw in what would otherwise be the "#5" slot. REALLY happy to not be in that lower half of the bracket. SHeeesh!

I though Weber deserved a seed though.
Was expecting to see JMU at #1
I do feel that UD deserved the AQ over JMU, but Conference rankings and National rankings are two completely independent things.

Delaware has done exactly squat in the playoffs in recent memory, so I don't think we've earned a seed. Like I said, I'm happy with our position.
I just think it might've been more than a coincidence that SDSU, SHSU, and JSU played all the other top teams from their conference (except for SDSU missing Missouri St) and they got the benefit of the doubt in seeding whereas JMU, Delaware, and Weber St (and EWU for that matter) missed the other top team in their conference and that might've gotten them over the hump to get seeded or get a better seed.

And it doesn't have to be a full round robin... just some intersectionality in general. JMU's signature win was Richmond... how good was Richmond? They only beat Elon and W&M (as did JMU). How good were Elon and W&M? Well Elon nearly lost to Davidson and got crushed by Gardner-Webb and W&M's only win was over Elon. If any of those CAA South teams had crossed over and played Maine or Rhode Island or Villanova or Delaware we could've had a lot better gauge on how good they were and given us a better idea of how impressed we should or shouldn't be with JMU's win over Richmond or Richmond's wins over Elon and W&M. I just think it was a mistake by the CAA to further insulate the already super-insular schedules this spring.

[70MilesFromCanada]

So with only 12 sites available for quarters and semis, will we actually see a “neutral site” game in those rounds? Can it happen?

[Houndawg]

4-4 against AGS Top 25. SIU was 4-3 vs. AGS Top 25, right?


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SEMO was #25 when we played them last fall

Edit: I see now....disregard previous message from Starfleet

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SEMO was #25 when we played them last fall

I think you maybe missed the "4-4" reference...or you did not, and I am just confused now.

Someone posted SIU was 4-3 vs. AGS Top 25. The comment about not going 4-4 was referring to SIU making sure not to lose in the 1st round of the playoffs. I am hopeful they do hit 5-3 vs. AGS Top 25 instead of 4-4, otherwise they are done. It would also lend some credence to 5 MVFC teams in the playoffs, if the fifth best MVFC team beat the best(?) Big Sky team (I know, unclear about EWU, and missing Montanas). I am aware of the record against AGS Top 25 (including the fall)...it has been in the "How They Fared" spreadsheets all season.

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So with only 12 sites available for quarters and semis, will we actually see a “neutral site” game in those rounds? Can it happen?

Holy Cross v. Southern Illinois and/or Sacred Heart v. Davidson as the candidate quarterfinal games, then winner of each v. other in semifinal...very, very doubtful.

Also, this is my last bit of ribbing SIU, as they were so geeked up about lobbying to be a playoff team that they did not even put in to host a game. Or perhaps they did and were not awarded the possibility? - seems unlikely. They probably wouldn't have had a home game (based on the bracket), but just a bit surprised they were not on the list as a potential host.

[Houndawg]

Holy Cross v. Southern Illinois and/or Sacred Heart v. Davidson as the candidate quarterfinal games, then winner of each v. other in semifinal...very, very doubtful.

Also, this is my last bit of ribbing SIU, as they were so geeked up about lobbying to be a playoff team that they did not even put in to host a game. Or perhaps they did and were not awarded the possibility? - seems unlikely. They probably wouldn't have had a home game (based on the bracket), but just a bit surprised they were not on the list as a potential host.

We don't have any money and we're a basketball school that will eventually have to drop football or go D2.

[Libertine]

Also, this is my last bit of ribbing SIU, as they were so geeked up about lobbying to be a playoff team that they did not even put in to host a game. Or perhaps they did and were not awarded the possibility? - seems unlikely. They probably wouldn't have had a home game (based on the bracket), but just a bit surprised they were not on the list as a potential host.

I think that has less to do with SIU and more to do with the logistical ability of Carbondale, IL to adequately host a college football team. There aren't a lot of hotels in town and those that are there are travel lodge types that can't offer the necessary meeting space or catering capacity that a team and its travelling party requires.

[Professor Chaos]

I was surprised to come across this today:
https://twitter.com/SamHerderFCS/status/1383531142637178888
https://twitter.com/SamHerderFCS/status/1383532175211917312

It makes sense since on the selection show Davis wasn't even listed amongst the first four out. Would've been interesting to see if SIU gets that last at-large had UCD been available??? I guess this means that the STATS poll also projected all 6 at-larges correctly since they had UC Davis one spot ahead of SIU but the committee had crossed the Aggies off the list.

[Bisonator]

I doubt UC Davis had much of a chance getting in at all. They should have tried to get another game like SIU. Think another win might have improved there shot anyway.

[lucchesicourt]

UC Davis had withdrawn from the playoffs before the selection show.