STATS Poll: March 22, 2021

[kdinva]

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?div=fcs



1
James Madison (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0196) (3-0)
969 (29)
1


2
North Dakota State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0309) (5-1)
939 (6)
4


3
Weber State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0119) (2-0)
926 (2)
3


4
South Dakota State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0312) (4-1)
879 (2)
6


5
Sam Houston (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0184) (3-0)
816 (1)
7


6
North Dakota (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0308) (4-1)
809
2


7
Jacksonville State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0247) (7-1)
765
8


8
Kennesaw State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=2610) (3-0)
715
9


9
Chattanooga (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0177) (3-1)
653
11


10
Southern Illinois (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0124) (4-2)
586
5


11
Delaware (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0195) (2-0)
559
12


12
Eastern Washington (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0113) (2-1)
480
15


13
UIW (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=2539) (3-0)
434
22


14
VMI (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0178) (4-0)
419
19


15
UC Davis (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0263) (2-1)
405
21


16
Villanova (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0199) (1-1)
398
14


17
Nicholls (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0181) (3-1)
352
17


18
Rhode Island (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0206) (2-0)
280
NR


19
Murray State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0154) (4-0)
279
25


20
Furman (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0174) (3-2)
249
13


21
Richmond (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0198) (2-0)
198
23


22
UNI (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0123) (2-3)
179
10


23
Southeastern Louisiana (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=2234) (2-2)
158
16


24
New Hampshire (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0205) (0-1)
122
20


25
Maine (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0203) (2-1)
77
NR


Others: Idaho (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0114) (63) , Missouri State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0125) (60) , Gardner-Webb (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0351) (41) , San Diego (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0169) (40) , Albany (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0546) (30) , Tarleton State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0262) (28) , Jackson State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0190) (23) , Monmouth (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0216) (22) , Duquesne (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0136) (13) , ETSU (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0173) (13) , Illinois State (http://www.fcs.football/cfb/teamstats.asp?report=teamhome&team=0121) (9)

[katss07]

Better than the AGS poll if we're being honest

[Preferred Walk-On]

Better than the AGS poll if we're being honest

Nice. Care to elaborate?...especially the "if we're being honest" part (that was my favorite).

[POD Knows]

Better than the AGS poll if we're being honestJMU at 1 is a joke. Flip JMU and SHSU and flip SDSU and NDSU and this is a pretty decent poll

[Preferred Walk-On]

JMU at 1 is a joke. Flip JMU and SHSU and flip SDSU and NDSU and this is a pretty decent poll

There were 29 voters that disagree with you (and I)...that is 72.5% of all STATS voters. xeyebrowx

[TheKingpin28]

I called out STATS for their slot voting and Haley got mad at me for it. Clearly, I was right since he couldn't take the flak from it about how bad it has been lately.

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[Preferred Walk-On]

I called out STATS for their slot voting and Haley got mad at me for it. Clearly, I was right since he couldn't take the flak from it about how bad it has been lately.

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I try to avoid slot voting as much as possible, but I do realize that sometimes teams can only play the games they can play (or not play). So I will cut STATS some slack for lack of movement on occasion; however, we are to the point where they can do better. Also, JMU does have three games that strongly suggest that they are NOT the top team in the nation.

[TheKingpin28]

I try to avoid slot voting as much as possible, but I do realize that sometimes teams can only play the games they can play (or not play). So I will cut STATS some slack for lack of movement on occasion; however, we are to the point where they can do better. Also, JMU does have three games that strongly suggest that they are NOT the top team in the nation.It started off how one guy wanted to know why SHSU could not gain ground for the #1 seed and why MVFC keep rising. I mentioned to him, since he's a STATS voter, that when you allow slot voters who rarely watch any games outside of their market, you get what you get and that's just how things will be.

One thing led to another and Haley lost it on me since I called it out for what it was and that was that. You cant tell me halfway through the season JMU is #1 and NDSU is #2. You just can't do that and keep a straight face. This is why I respect the AGS poll since voters will post their votes and face the criticism that comes with it.

Seems like too many media members panic and cry foul when you call them out yet they refuse to post their polls cause they know they'd have some explaining to do otherwise.

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[dewey]

I called out STATS for their slot voting and Haley got mad at me for it. Clearly, I was right since he couldn't take the flak from it about how bad it has been lately.

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I agree with the slot voting. What has James Madison done to warrant their #1 ranking? They lost 7 or 8 starters from the 2019 team, struggled with Robert Morris and nearly lost to Elon.

Maybe they are #1 because they just haven't lost yet plus the name.

I think SHSU has a much better resume so far and they are undefeated.

Dewey

[POD Knows]

There were 29 voters that disagree with you (and I)...that is 72.5% of all STATS voters. xeyebrowxYea, and Jackson State got votes and ASU didn't, these guys in this poll aren't really paying attention to what is going on. This STATS poll isn't "terrible" but I just don't think JMU is the best team in the country at this point in time.

[TheKingpin28]

I agree with the slot voting. What has James Madison done to warrant their #1 ranking? They lost 7 or 8 starters from the 2019 team, struggled with Robert Morris and nearly lost to Elon.

Maybe they are #1 because they just haven't lost yet plus the name.

I think SHSU has a much better resume so far and they are undefeated.

DeweyIt comes down to people being lazy and refusing to watch games vs checking box scores. These media members need to do better or just admit they do not follow the games. Just another reason why AGS will always be the gold standard for the FCS poll.

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[MSUDuo]

Dumb question...

What's slot voting?

[dewey]

Here is Dom Izzo's STATS poll.

https://www.inforum.com/sports/football/6947009-Dom-Izzos-FCS-Top-25-poll-thru-Week-Six#.YFiklJQerts.twitter

Here's my Top 25:

1. North Dakota State (5-1, beat North Dakota)

2.South Dakota State (4-1, beat Southern Illinois)

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3. James Madison (3-0, game postponed vs Richmond)

4.Weber State (2-0, bye week)

5. North Dakota (4-1, lost to NDSU)

6.Sam Houston (3-0, beat Lamar)

7. Delaware (2-0, game postponed vs UNH)

8. Kennesaw State (3-0, beat Dixie State)

9. Jacksonville State (7-1, beat SEMO) *FBS win

10. Chattanooga (3-1, beat Furman)

11. Southern Illinois (3-2, lost to SDSU)

12. Furman (3-2, lost to Chattanooga)

13. Incarnate Word (3-0, beat SE Louisiana)

14. Villanova (1-1, bye week)

15. Eastern Washington (2-1, bye week)

16. VMI (4-0, beat Samford)

17. Rhode Island (2-0, beat Albany)

18. UC Davis (2-1, beat Cal Poly)

19. New Hampshire (0-1, game postponed vs UD)

20. Murray State (4-0, beat Tennessee State)

21. Richmond (2-0, game postponed vs JMU)

22. Nicholls (3-1, bye week)

23. Maine (2-1, beat Stony Brook)

24. Tarleton (4-2, beat Midwestern State)

25. Southeastern Louisiana (2-2, lost to Incarnate Word)

Dewey

[dewey]

Dumb question...

What's slot voting?

Not a dumb question at all.

To me slot voting is if a team doesn't lose another team can't jump them. This ignores the results from the game.

For example James Madison (not to constantly go after the Dukes) is ahead of SHSU because they started the season above them. Despite the fact that SHSU has a much better resume and JMU has struggled in 2 of their games against questionable teams.

Dewey

[Lorne_Malvo]

I agree with the slot voting. What has James Madison done to warrant their #1 ranking? They lost 7 or 8 starters from the 2019 team, struggled with Robert Morris and nearly lost to Elon.

Maybe they are #1 because they just haven't lost yet plus the name.

I think SHSU has a much better resume so far and they are undefeated.

Dewey

Lamar, Nicholls and SELA? Really?

[caribbeanhen]

It started off how one guy wanted to know why SHSU could not gain ground for the #1 seed and why MVFC keep rising. I mentioned to him, since he's a STATS voter, that when you allow slot voters who rarely watch any games outside of their market, you get what you get and that's just how things will be.

One thing led to another and Haley lost it on me since I called it out for what it was and that was that. You cant tell me halfway through the season JMU is #1 and NDSU is #2. You just can't do that and keep a straight face. This is why I respect the AGS poll since voters will post their votes and face the criticism that comes with it.

Seems like too many media members panic and cry foul when you call them out yet they refuse to post their polls cause they know they'd have some explaining to do otherwise.

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Sam Houston would beat JMU right now..... not sure about the Bison but that day might be coming

[caribbeanhen]

Lamar, Nicholls and SELA? Really?

Yep really, Dewey didn't mention the big win over Morehead St...

[TheKingpin28]

Sam Houston would beat JMU right now..... not sure about the Bison but that day might be coming

SHSU is the team to beat, for me, for now.

[caribbeanhen]

SHSU is the team to beat, for me, for now.

they still have the Mental block and bad memories of the beat downs to get over, they have the talent to beat you though.... might as well just start the thread now Sammy vs Bison - The Title game...

[SHSU90]

SHSU is the team to beat, for me, for now.

Nah it is the Bison until proven otherwise imo

[Daytripper]

they still have the Mental block and bad memories of the beat downs to get over, they have the talent to beat you though.... might as well just start the thread now Sammy vs Bison - The Title game...

If there is a mental block it is with Keeler and a few assistant coaches. Very few, if any, of these players were around when the Bearkats got throttled by NDSU and JMU. This group of players seem to have a different attitude than previous squads.

[TheKingpin28]

Nah it is the Bison until proven otherwise imo

The SIU game is hard to look past and knowing who is starting at QB, I'm not sure they are the best team in The Valley.

[MSUDuo]

Not a dumb question at all.

To me slot voting is if a team doesn't lose another team can't jump them. This ignores the results from the game.

For example James Madison (not to constantly go after the Dukes) is ahead of SHSU because they started the season above them. Despite the fact that SHSU has a much better resume and JMU has struggled in 2 of their games against questionable teams.

Dewey

That makes sense.

But it doesn't matter sense to do it

[caribbeanhen]

If there is a mental block it is with Keeler and a few assistant coaches. Very few, if any, of these players were around when the Bearkats got throttled by NDSU and JMU. This group of players seem to have a different attitude than previous squads.

Totally agree, but just remember that none of the 78 Red Sox were even born when Babe Ruth was traded to the Yankees

Oh yeah and make sure KC is wearing his sunglasses before the game, you don’t want the players to see the fear in his eyes. Haha

[TheKingpin28]

That makes sense.

But it doesn't matter sense to do it

It's an extremely lazy way of voting and ensures that if you do not lose, you can't lose your ranking, and for some reason at least for now, 75% of the media is following this trend. This is why, I personally believe, the AGS poll is the Gold Standard for the FCS since even if you do not lose, you can still drop in rankings for not having a great showing. I know I have dropped teams that have won and moved teams up even if they lost. It's supposed to be fluid for a reason, not, if you win, you cannot be penalized for playing Charmin U every week.

[Katfan]

Totally agree, but just remember that none of the 78 Red Sox were even born when Babe Ruth was traded to the Yankees

Oh yeah and make sure KC is wearing his sunglasses before the game, you don’t want the players to see the fear in his eyes. Haha
Hopefully we’ll play night games and he won’t wear them!

[gokat89]

Lamar, Nicholls and SELA? Really?

Nicholls was ranked #7 and SE La was ranked #17 respectively when they played. Kats dropped 71 on Nicholls and 43 on SE La. I am not sure if they are top 4 right now, but this team has a different feel so far this year. I havent seen depth in the roster like this in a very long time. This team is good.

[F'N Hawks]

If there is a mental block it is with Keeler and a few assistant coaches. Very few, if any, of these players were around when the Bearkats got throttled by NDSU and JMU. This group of players seem to have a different attitude than previous squads.

THIS is the year.

[Sonic98]

Yea, and Jackson State got votes and ASU didn't, these guys in this poll aren't really paying attention to what is going on. This STATS poll isn't "terrible" but I just don't think JMU is the best team in the country at this point in time.

Maybe some voters look at it the same way people figure RPI into certain polls on Basketball. Technically speaking Jackson State has a better overall record, and the loss was a close game on the road. If ASU's win was a slightly larger or more dominate win on the road, people might have taken a look at that.

[Professor Chaos]

If there is a mental block it is with Keeler and a few assistant coaches. Very few, if any, of these players were around when the Bearkats got throttled by NDSU and JMU. This group of players seem to have a different attitude than previous squads.
I'm not saying these guys are going to get throttled in the playoffs this spring but how can you tell their attitude is different when they haven't really had their resolve tested yet? SLU gave them a good game but the biggest lead the Lions ever had was 3 and that was short-lived. Otherwise it's easy to have a great attitude when you're blowing teams off the field winning by 50+. You could be right that this Sam Houston team has a different mental makeup but I'm gonna hold off judgement until I see it in the playoffs when the chips are down.

[POD Knows]

Maybe some voters look at it the same way people figure RPI into certain polls on Basketball. Technically speaking Jackson State has a better overall record, and the loss was a close game on the road. If ASU's win was a slightly larger or more dominate win on the road, people might have taken a look at that.I had you guys in my poll, I have seen you play, you looked pretty good in the one win, I felt I should put ASU in my poll, well, because they beat a top 25 team in my poll and maybe deserve it. It gets tough in the back end of these polls.

[Katfan]

I'm not saying these guys are going to get throttled in the playoffs this spring but how can you tell their attitude is different when they haven't really had their resolve tested yet? SLU gave them a good game but the biggest lead the Lions ever had was 3 and that was short-lived. Otherwise it's easy to have a great attitude when you're blowing teams off the field winning by 50+. You could be right that this Sam Houston team has a different mental makeup but I'm gonna hold off judgement until I see it in the playoffs when the chips are down.
I think the point was none of these kids played in those games. these kids have a different mental makeup is obviously true but it’s impossible to see until they are tested. Hopefully they will not be tested but we both know you don’t become champions without being tested!

[Professor Chaos]

I think the point was none of these kids played in those games. these kids have a different mental makeup is obviously true but it’s impossible to see until they are tested. Hopefully they will not be tested but we both know you don’t become champions without being tested!
Yeah, I get it. You guys have every reason to be optimistic right now. I think the playoffs this year are going to be wild with all the unknowns these teams have and inconsistent play we're likely to continue seeing. As long as no one has to forfeit a playoff game due to COVID or some other circumstance beyond their control I'll be satisfied however it turns out.

[Katfan]

Yeah, I get it. You guys have every reason to be optimistic right now. I think the playoffs this year are going to be wild with all the unknowns these teams have and inconsistent play we're likely to continue seeing. As long as no one has to forfeit a playoff game due to COVID or some other circumstance beyond their control I'll be satisfied however it turns out.
Totally agree! It will be fun!

[lionsrking2]

Totally agree! It will be fun!

I’m a believer. You guys will get your NC this spring.

[caribbeanhen]

I'm not saying these guys are going to get throttled in the playoffs this spring but how can you tell their attitude is different when they haven't really had their resolve tested yet? SLU gave them a good game but the biggest lead the Lions ever had was 3 and that was short-lived. Otherwise it's easy to have a great attitude when you're blowing teams off the field winning by 50+. You could be right that this Sam Houston team has a different mental makeup but I'm gonna hold off judgement until I see it in the playoffs when the chips are down.

that's fair, we all know the Behemoth is still breathing and until it is slayed, the Bison are the favorites.....

[Professor Chaos]

that's fair, we all know the Behemoth is still breathing and until it is slayed, the Bison are the favorites.....
It's gonna take more than a bit of luck I think for my Bison to defend their title again. Either that or some drastically improved QB play. It's probably going to come down to what team gets hot at the right time.

[caribbeanhen]

It's gonna take more than a bit of luck I think for my Bison to defend their title again. Either that or some drastically improved QB play. It's probably going to come down to what team gets hot at the right time.

Welcome back, you are just another top 5 FCS team this year..... you don't have that top 25 FBS look right now

[Daytripper]

I’m a believer. You guys will get your NC this spring.

Okay, now there has to be a glitch in the matrix. Other Southland fans jumping on the SHSU bandwagon seems very surreal and out of character. But, we'll take it!

[caribbeanhen]

Okay, now there has to be a glitch in the matrix. Other Southland fans jumping on the SHSU bandwagon seems very surreal and out of character. But, we'll take it!

and Puerto Ricans. Haha Game 1 I saw it

[lionsrking2]

Okay, now there has to be a glitch in the matrix. Other Southland fans jumping on the SHSU bandwagon seems very surreal and out of character. But, we'll take it!
The D-line is the separator but it's the most complete Sam team I've seen. I've watched all the contenders and don't see anybody who can stop you as they are constituted this spring -- everybody has warts.