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Gil Dobie
January 13th, 2021, 10:14 AM
The top 8 from 2020 and my 2 selections from the new additions. Please comment on any additional players that you would vote for.
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Gil Dobie
January 13th, 2021, 10:31 AM
I would probably vote for Andruw Jones, Bobby Abreau and Jeff Kent
OhioHen
January 13th, 2021, 11:41 AM
It won't let me vote as I would vote.


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Three guys I can't vote for because of the PED situation, six not worthy enough for inclusion in my opinion, and one I've never heard of. Of the list, If I were to vote for one it would be Sheffield.
Gil Dobie
January 13th, 2021, 11:57 AM
It won't let me vote as I would vote.



Three guys I can't vote for because of the PED situation, six not worthy enough for inclusion in my opinion, and one I've never heard of. Of the list, If I were to vote for one it would be Sheffield.

I don't see any options to edit the poll. Sheffield admitted to using PED's thru BALCO. Which player have you not heard of?
OhioHen
January 13th, 2021, 01:30 PM
I don't see any options to edit the poll. Sheffield admitted to using PED's thru BALCO. Which player have you not heard of?

Then make it four I can't vote for because of PEDs, five not worthy enough, and that guy named after a cologne at the bottom of the list.
caribbeanhen
January 13th, 2021, 01:32 PM
Bonds and Clemens ....

Both great players and would’ve made the Hall of Fame without cheating, but they cheated so no thanks

Andrew Jones was the best defensive centerfielder of all time, Big power bat but slumped to early

Not sure what his cheating status was
Gil Dobie
January 13th, 2021, 02:21 PM
Then make it four I can't vote for because of PEDs, five not worthy enough, and that guy named after a cologne at the bottom of the list.

He was consistent with 7 years over 100 RBI, 386 HR and a .383 average. It's his first year, and he looked like one of the best 2 with Hunter.
POD Knows
January 13th, 2021, 06:44 PM
The top 8 from 2020 and my 2 selections from the new additions. Please comment on any additional players that you would vote for.
Vote for up to 10 playersThis might be the weakest list ever.
POD Knows
January 13th, 2021, 06:45 PM
I got Sheffield, Bonds and Clemens
caribbeanhen
January 13th, 2021, 07:01 PM
I would probably vote for Andruw Jones, Bobby Abreau and Jeff Kent

why are they not on the ballot?

All borderline though
POD Knows
January 13th, 2021, 07:06 PM
why are they not on the ballot?

All borderline thoughI had to look up Scott Rolen, honest to God, I didn't have a clue who he was. I thought about Wagner but I am not a fan of relief pitchers, I am too freaking old school.
caribbeanhen
January 13th, 2021, 07:23 PM
I had to look up Scott Rolen, honest to God, I didn't have a clue who he was. I thought about Wagner but I am not a fan of relief pitchers, I am too freaking old school.

Roland was no Brooks Robinson with a glove and no Mike Schmidt with the bat, Pretty good player but he should not be in the Hall of Fame
Gil Dobie
January 13th, 2021, 10:51 PM
why are they not on the ballot?

All borderline though

I can only list 10
caribbeanhen
January 14th, 2021, 11:55 AM
I can only list 10

Rafeal Palmiero has the numbers for the Hall of Fame,
But he was a steroid guy and lied about it to Congress
Gil Dobie
January 14th, 2021, 02:08 PM
Rafeal Palmiero has the numbers for the Hall of Fame,
But he was a steroid guy and lied about it to Congress

He's no longer on the official ballot.
caribbeanhen
January 14th, 2021, 02:40 PM
My vote goes to Andruw Jones simply because he was the best defensive centerfielder of all time

Glavine Smoltz Maddox will agree
TheKingpin28
January 14th, 2021, 05:25 PM
I got Sheffield, Bonds and Clemens

I had to add Torii as if that ball was hit to CF and not crushed, it was an automatic out. Guy had speed not seen before.

Sheffield I'd have to believe is an autolock.
Gil Dobie
January 15th, 2021, 04:07 PM
I figure, eventually the PED users will get into the Hall of Fame. Their roid numbers do make players that had decent numbers during that time, and were not on steroids, look not so decent in comparison, and are over-looked because of that.
OhioHen
January 19th, 2021, 08:23 AM
I figure, eventually the PED users will get into the Hall of Fame. Their roid numbers do make players that had decent numbers during that time, and were not on steroids, look not so decent in comparison, and are over-looked because of that.

It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Decent. It's not even supposed to be the Hall of Very Good, but the list of last year's top non-PED vote getters certainly seems like a list of very good (not all-time great) players, at best.
Chalupa Batman
January 21st, 2021, 08:30 AM
I voted for Schilling and Vizquel.

IMO the HOF needs to include PED's to the hall profiles of anyone linked to them. In that case Bonds, Clemens, and Sheffield would also get my vote and would probably be shoo-ins.
Gil Dobie
January 21st, 2021, 09:29 AM
I voted for Schilling and Vizquel.

IMO the HOF needs to include PED's to the hall profiles of anyone linked to them. In that case Bonds, Clemens, and Sheffield would also get my vote and would probably be shoo-ins.

I suspect a few PED users are already in the Hall, like maybe Piazza and Ivan Rodriguez.
bonarae
January 22nd, 2021, 06:17 AM
Meanwhile...

Do you think those players will wait for the Modern Era Committee before they have a chance to be enshrined? xchinscratchx
Gil Dobie
January 22nd, 2021, 10:12 AM
Meanwhile...

Do you think those players will wait for the Modern Era Committee before they have a chance to be enshrined? xchinscratchx

Bonds and Clemens have this year and next, to be elected by the media. After that, it's up to the MEC, which is pretty much former players.

"The thing is, do you put these guys in, or do you put an asterisk beside their names and say, 'Hey, they did it, but here's why?'" Aaron told several reporters in Cooperstown. "To be safe, that's the only way I see that you can do it."
Laker
January 26th, 2021, 07:55 PM
Did I read the crawl line correctly that no one will be going into the Hall this year? First time since 2013.
NHwildEcat
January 27th, 2021, 08:30 AM
Bonds and Clemens belong in the Hall. This isn't hard. You cannot write the story of baseball without either of them.
OhioHen
January 27th, 2021, 08:37 AM
Did I read the crawl line correctly that no one will be going into the Hall this year? First time since 2013.

There was a story on posted to espn.com about it yesterday evening, so I believe that IS what you saw on the crawl.
Laker
January 27th, 2021, 08:50 AM
There was a story on posted to espn.com about it yesterday evening, so I believe that IS what you saw on the crawl.

I had limited myself to one glass of chocolate milk so I didn't think I was impaired but some is more potent than others.