NY Daily News: They're Done

[UNHWildCats]

Time of Death: July 2, 2007

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/dailynews.jpg

[AZGrizFan]

Where's the picture of Cindy Rodriguez's shirt? :( :D

[Ivytalk]

What did the Post say?

[UNHWildCats]

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[GannonFan]

I wrote them off after the sweep in Colorado, and that was before losing 2 of 3 to the lowly Giants, and 2 of 3 to the lowly Orioles, and then the most recent series loss to a decent but not great team. The AL East was lost awhile ago, and the Yanks were already up against it trying to catch either Cleveland or Detroit, depending on who's second in the AL. A resurgent Seattle just muddies the picture further, and that's assuming that Minnesota isn't a factor. The Yanks are done. The curse of Bobby Abreu lives on!

[bison95]

Are red sax fans really fans or just yankee haters who need a home?

[UNHWildCats]

I wrote them off after the sweep in Colorado, and that was before losing 2 of 3 to the lowly Giants, and 2 of 3 to the lowly Orioles, and then the most recent series loss to a decent but not great team. The AL East was lost awhile ago, and the Yanks were already up against it trying to catch either Cleveland or Detroit, depending on who's second in the AL. A resurgent Seattle just muddies the picture further, and that's assuming that Minnesota isn't a factor. The Yanks are done. The curse of Bobby Abreu lives on!

2 of 2 game 3 was never complete and will be finished later this month :p

[GannonFan]

2 of 2 game 3 was never complete and will be finished later this month :p


I stand corrected - plus I believe they are in good shape in that game. Regardless, they're just playing out the string now.

[813Jag]

I stand corrected - plus I believe they are in good shape in that game. Regardless, they're just playing out the string now.
Actually they're just trying to stay ahead of the Rays. xlolx xlolx

[spelunker64]

Where's the picture of Cindy Rodriguez's shirt? :( :D

Yeah, what is up with that. Must have been meant for someone specific. Mike and Mike were talking about it this morning on E$PN

[putter]

That story will mark the beginning of the end for the Sox........

[mcveyrl]

That story will mark the beginning of the end for Joe Torre........

Fixed it.

[Go...gate]

I would think Cindy Rodriguez would have a little more common sense than making a spectacle out of herself. xsmhx

[Grizalltheway]

Works for me, I'd just as soon never see them in the playoffs again.

[Eyes of Old Main]

All this is just prologue for the grease fire/train wreck that will be the Yankees off-season.

Time to pop some popcorn, grab a cold beer and sit back and watch...

[Go...gate]

My God, is the fur gonna fly after Labor Day if the Yankees are going nowhere....

[Grizalltheway]

My God, is the fur gonna fly after Labor Day if the Yankees are going nowhere....

Like EOM said: sit back and enjoy the show. xnodx xlolx

[BigApp]

That story will mark the beginning of the end for the Sox........

I got that same thought...as if anyone in Boston should be bragging about a big lead in baseball...xwhistlex

[Reed Rothchild]

This isn't "news". They have been out for awhile. I've given up hope for my Yanks and no longer get frustrated. Cashman has been making mistakes too long.

[JoltinJoe]

That story will mark the beginning of the end for the Sox........

Three weeks later. xchinscratchx

[SuperJon]

I generally hate the Yankees, but with how cocky the Red Sox fans got earlier this year, I'm really hoping the Yankees come back, win the division, and lose first round.

[Zoo]

Seems like the Yankees are starting to pick things back up.

[Grizalltheway]

Three weeks later. xchinscratchx

Still 6.5 games back...xchinscratchx xcoffeex

[JoltinJoe]

Still 6.5 games back...xchinscratchx xcoffeex

The Red Sox started the season 36-15. Since May 30, however, the Sox are 25-25 while the Yankees have gone 33-17 and gained eight games in the standings.

So things are getting interesting in the American League East.

[Grizalltheway]

The Red Sox started the season 36-15. Since May 30, however, the Sox are 25-25 while the Yankees have gone 33-17 and gained eight games in the standings.

So things are getting interesting in the American League East.

Even if things weren't interesting, they'd still be the only AL teams that ESPN shows. xbangx

[Col Hogan]

The Yankees cannot stay as hot as they are right now...just as Boston could not stay as hot as they were at the begining of the season...

Biggest question is...who is better prepared for the final run to the end?

I'll still maintain it's the Sox, but it will be interesting...

By the way, Griz, if you check both Fox and ESPN for the next couple of weeks, the Yankess and Sox do not appear...Detroit and the Angels do a couple of times...

[Seahawks Fan]

The news of their death was a bit premature. With that lineup you can never dismiss them

[Grizalltheway]

The Yankees cannot stay as hot as they are right now...just as Boston could not stay as hot as they were at the begining of the season...

Biggest question is...who is better prepared for the final run to the end?

I'll still maintain it's the Sox, but it will be interesting...

By the way, Griz, if you check both Fox and ESPN for the next couple of weeks, the Yankess and Sox do not appear...Detroit and the Angels do a couple of times...

But I bet if you were to look at the sunday night baseball schedule for the entire season, it would be 90% NL, 5 % Yanks-Sox, 2.5 % all other AL teams and 2.5% inter-league.

[UNHWildCats]

I generally hate the Yankees, but with how cocky the Red Sox fans got earlier this year, I'm really hoping the Yankees come back, win the division, and lose first round.

Funny you should post that comment on a thread that is about something a NY newspaper said. xlolx xlolx xlolx

[Col Hogan]

Red Sox win...Bombers lose...

7.5 back.....

[terrierbob]

Red Sox win...Bombers lose...

7.5 back.....

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I loathe the Yankees. I'm a Braves fan, and we are still reeling from being up 2-0 on them in the '96 series and blowing it. (Mark Wohlers never recovered, got the "yips", and is out of baseball).

That said, if any of you are actuaries, what would the Yankees record have to be beginning tomorrow to win the division assuming the Reds go .500?

[Col Hogan]

To tie with the Red Sox, the Yankess would have to play .622 ball (38 - 23) for their remaining 61 games if the Red Sox play .500 ball for the remainder of the season...

It's doable by the Bombers...I doubt they will, though (Joe, still looking at that Avatar for you...:p )

So their magic number for elimination from the East title is 24!!!

[JoltinJoe]

To tie with the Red Sox, the Yankess would have to play .622 ball (38 - 23) for their remaining 61 games if the Red Sox play .500 ball for the remainder of the season...

It's doable by the Bombers...I doubt they will, though (Joe, still looking at that Avatar for you...:p )

So their magic number for elimination from the East title is 24!!!

Typo? Looking at your math, isn't the Sox magic number 54, i.e., if the Yanks lose 23 games then Sox will then need to win 31 to clinch?

PS -- 54 seems to prove out because the Yankees are 7 1/2 back and their magic number would be 69 (38 Yankee wins plsu 31 Sox losses gives the Yanks the title). The difference between two team's Magic Number is always two times the games behind).

[TheValleyRaider]

From MLB.com:

Elimination Number, the combined number of wins (by the first place team) and losses (by the trailing team) that will eliminate the trailing team from winning the division. The Elimination Number for any team is determined by adding their number of losses to the number of wins for the team leading the division, and subtracting that total from 163. The Elimination Number for the second place team is the "Magic Number" for the first place team. "E" indicates that the team has been eliminated from winning the division.

So let's see...Yanks have 47 losses, added to the Sawks 62 wins is 109. Subract 109 from 163 and you get....dramatic pause....54.

Or you could just read the standings themselves which includes the 54 without explanation...xwhistlex

Have a nice day :)

[Col Hogan]

Typo? Looking at your math, isn't the Sox magic number 54, i.e., if the Yanks lose 23 games then Sox will then need to win 31 to clinch?

PS -- 54 seems to prove out because the Yankees are 7 1/2 back and their magic number would be 69 (38 Yankee wins plsu 31 Sox losses gives the Yanks the title). The difference between two team's Magic Number is always two times the games behind).

This is why is usually don't to public math...

I'll trust your numbers because if I do it' I'll screw it up again....

I'm correct on the other numbers, just screwed up that Magic number thing...D'oh!!!!!!

[UNHWildCats]

To tie with the Red Sox, the Yankess would have to play .622 ball (38 - 23) for their remaining 61 games if the Red Sox play .500 ball for the remainder of the season...

It's doable by the Bombers...I doubt they will, though (Joe, still looking at that Avatar for you...:p )

So their magic number for elimination from the East title is 24!!!

Its also laughable that Boston would only play .500 ball from now til the end with the easy schedule they have... Tampa Bay 15 times over the final 60 games thats 1/4 of their schedule.

Of the final 60 games for Boston32 come against Tampa, Baltimore and Chicago.

This season vs the remaining teams on their schedule Boston is as follows;

Tampa 3-0 (15) Lets assume Boston does a 10-5 split there.
Baltimore 4-1 (13) Lets assume Boston goes 8-5 here.
Chicago 3-1 (4) We'll assume a split 2-2 this series.
New York 7-5 (6) Again we'll split the remaining games, 3-3.
Toronto 7-5 (6) This might be being generous for Toronto but again a 3-3 split for Boston here.
Minnesotta 2-1 (4) I can see Boston taking 3 of 4 but again lets be conservative and say 2-2.
Oakland 2-4 (2) I say Boston splits so heres a 1-1.
Seattle 2-4 (3) Again the series is in Seattle where they recently swept Boston, but we'll say Boston takes 1 this time so 1-2.
Los Angelas 3-0 (7) Lets say LA takes 4 of the 7 so 3-4.

Now these are conservative, Boston likely will do better against Baltimore and TB then I calculated for and the Chicago series may not even be close.

With this Boston would finish 95-67, New York would need to go 41-20 over the final 61 that over .667 to catch Boston if they finish up at a .550 clip.

[UNHWildCats]

This is why is usually don't to public math...

I'll trust your numbers because if I do it' I'll screw it up again....

I'm correct on the other numbers, just screwed up that Magic number thing...D'oh!!!!!!


You stick to posting the NEON YANKEES SUCKS image and I'll take care of the numbers okay :D

[Col Hogan]

I had to hunt that bad boy down...it's been a while...

5574 5574

[UNHWildCats]

Sox Win again. Yankees Lose again... (ok so they won that suspended game before the regualr game but thats ok)

Order has been restored in the American League East. BTW Sox magic number went from 54 to 52 :D

[Reed Rothchild]

Yanks have 8 games coming up with Detroit in a few weeks. YIKES!

[Col Hogan]

Yankees now 8 behind Red Sox and 5 out of wild card after winning their suspended game but losing scheduled game with Baltimore last night...xhurrayx

[JoltinJoe]

Yankees now 8 behind Red Sox and 5 out of wild card after winning their suspended game but losing scheduled game with Baltimore last night...xhurrayx

Yea, it looks like I jinxed them by reviving this thread. Either that, or throwing Kei Igawa against Kansas City.

[Col Hogan]

Yea, it looks like I jinxed them by reviving this thread. Either that, or throwing Kei Igawa against Kansas City.
I think it was Igawa.....xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

[Reed Rothchild]

Yea, it looks like I jinxed them by reviving this thread. Either that, or throwing Kei Igawa against Kansas City.

Yeah, I was at the massacre. It was BRUTAL. Pics of his demise to come later....

[TheValleyRaider]

In slightly better news, Igawa was sent back down to AAA Scranton after Thursday's, umm, outing. Re-enter Phil Hughes? xchinscratchx xprayx

[UNHWildCats]

Sox win, Yanke lose 9 game lead magic number to 50

[UNHWildCats]

Its also laughable that Boston would only play .500 ball from now til the end with the easy schedule they have... Tampa Bay 15 times over the final 60 games thats 1/4 of their schedule.

Of the final 60 games for Boston32 come against Tampa, Baltimore and Chicago.

This season vs the remaining teams on their schedule Boston is as follows;

Tampa 3-0 (15) Lets assume Boston does a 10-5 split there.
Baltimore 4-1 (13) Lets assume Boston goes 8-5 here.
Chicago 3-1 (4) We'll assume a split 2-2 this series.
New York 7-5 (6) Again we'll split the remaining games, 3-3.
Toronto 7-5 (6) This might be being generous for Toronto but again a 3-3 split for Boston here.
Minnesotta 2-1 (4) I can see Boston taking 3 of 4 but again lets be conservative and say 2-2.
Oakland 2-4 (2) I say Boston splits so heres a 1-1.
Seattle 2-4 (3) Again the series is in Seattle where they recently swept Boston, but we'll say Boston takes 1 this time so 1-2.
Los Angelas 3-0 (7) Lets say LA takes 4 of the 7 so 3-4.

Now these are conservative, Boston likely will do better against Baltimore and TB then I calculated for and the Chicago series may not even be close.

With this Boston would finish 95-67, New York would need to go 41-20 over the final 61 that over .667 to catch Boston if they finish up at a .550 clip.

Boston has taken 6 of their last 9 games since I wrote this post. 2 of 3 againts Tampa, Baltimore and Seattle.

Big series this week as Boston faces the Angels. Winning atleast 2 in anaheim would cement Boston's claim as the best team in baseball.

[Reed Rothchild]

Yanks are now only 1/2 game out of the Wild Card after Detroit has gone in the tank.

Now, they have to go to Toronto for 3 against a team which they haven't been able to hit well against.

Then, they go to Cleveland where there will probably be 20 runs scored per game.

Next home with Baltimore which has been able to beat the Yanks this year

Fortunately, they get to be home for 4 games against the Tigers that could be bad.

Next to Anaheim for 3 (the only team Joe Torre has a losing record against) then to the D for 4 with the Tigers AGAIN.

Follow all that up with 3 against Boston at home and you get the absolute make or break point in the Yankees season.

YIKES!!! xeekx

[furpal87]

In other terms, it's back to real teams for the Yankees, instead of these so-called major league teams they've made this ground up against. I think Boston has played awfully well to stay 7 up with how much the Yankees have been winning.

[CollegeSportsInfo]

As of right now, the Yankees are tied for the lead in the Wildcard. It's amazing to be saying that in august after such an awful first few months.

[Go...gate]

Agreed. They have made a great recovery.

[Ivytalk]

After last night's Yankee win and Bosox loss, the lead is down to 5 games (and only half a game behind Detroit for the wild card). It's not even September 1! And the Yanks may have a couple of new young studs in the bullpen.xeekx

[JoltinJoe]

After last night's Yankee win and Bosox loss, the lead is down to 5 games (and only half a game behind Detroit for the wild card). It's not even September 1! And the Yanks may have a couple of new young studs in the bullpen.xeekx
xshhhx

[CollegeSportsInfo]

The Yanks run sure has made things interesting in Seattle, Detroit, Cleveland and Boston, that' is for sure.

What I don't like seeing as a Yankee fan is Giambi coming back. The team has done quite well SINCE he got hurt and Phillips and then Duncan entered the lineup. Those two players have been a big spark for that lineup, along with the resurgence of Cano, Melky and Matsui.

[bluehenbillk]

Beware of the next few weeks, the stength of schedule has a pretty dramatic shift.

Cupcakes anyone?

[RedSpartan]

True, Bluehen. In the nest three weeks, they have 17 games against the Indians, Tigers, Angels, and BoSox. These will be the games that really show what this team is made of. Personally, I like their chances.

[JoltinJoe]

What Terry Francona sees in his rearview mirror:

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l83/JoltinJoe/untitled-2.jpg

[bluehenbillk]

Joltin Joe, funny you pull that picture off bostondirtdogs but don't include the one underneath?

[JoltinJoe]

Joltin Joe, funny you pull that picture off bostondirtdogs but don't include the one underneath?

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I got that in an email so I don't know what other picture you're talking about.

I thought it was sort of funny so I posted it here even though every time I post in this thread, I jinx the Yankees. A little voice in my head told me "don't do it" but did I listen?

[Peems]

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I got that in an email so I don't know what other picture you're talking about.

I thought it was sort of funny so I posted it here even though every time I post in this thread, I jinx the Yankees. A little voice in my head told me "don't do it" but did I listen?

you are the reason the yanks got thrashed last night. But luckily Cano keeps his hot streak alive!

Also to people who have been addressing the schedule. Cleveland and Detroit are not exactly the "hottest" teams right now. But they do have the talent and ability to make the yanks struggle. Obviously the Red Sox will be a tough series, but the one to keep your eye on is the Angels. They are playing well and could take the yanks down a notch or two. Guess we'll see.