RIP Joe Morgan

[OhioHen]

A major cog in the Big Red Machine has passed.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/30100016/baseball-hall-famer-joe-morgan-dies-77

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/30100937/baseball-keeps-losing-legends-2020-joe-morgan-the-smallest-mightiest-all


Morgan was among those who challenged inequality in baseball practices at a time when doing so was still potentially dangerous to one's career.

https://theundefeated.com/features/joe-morgan-loved-baseball-but-also-challenged-its-outdated-practices/

[Gil Dobie]

Never forget him flapping his arm when he came to bat, RIP Joe

While Joe Morgan’s numbers speak for themselves, he was well-known for his little elbow quirk while at the plate. His back elbow would always flap like a chicken as he awaited the pitch. The flapping came under the advice of former teammate Nellie Fox.

Bench noted how much Morgan admired Fox. “Nellie Fox was his hero,” Bench said on High Heat. “He wanted to be proven as a little man that he could do all of the same jobs – he could do everything that everybody else could.”

According to the Society for American Baseball Research (https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/joe-morgan/), it was Fox who told Morgan to flap his elbow. Early in his career, Morgan was keeping his back elbow too low. Fox suggested Morgan flap the elbow to help him keep it up. Morgan took the advice and it became his trademark throughout his 22-year career in the big leagues. - Sportscasting.com

[Laker]

When I read about these players dying- I am reminded of a time when I was familiar with many teams, not just the Twins, that I could name their infields or their outfields. I used to watch as many games as I could. You knew what they did- like the flapping elbow, the head first slide- something that made them unique. They were stars and you could see why.

Now I couldn't name the starting lineup for the Twins for a million dollars. The interest level isn't there.

[POD Knows]

When I read about these players dying- I am reminded of a time when I was familiar with many teams, not just the Twins, that I could name their infields or their outfields. I used to watch as many games as I could. You knew what they did- like the flapping elbow, the head first slide- something that made them unique. They were stars and you could see why.

Now I couldn't name the starting lineup for the Twins for a million dollars. The interest level isn't there.The Red's starting line-up back then was pretty easy as about half of them are in the HOF.

[caribbeanhen]

When I read about these players dying- I am reminded of a time when I was familiar with many teams, not just the Twins, that I could name their infields or their outfields. I used to watch as many games as I could. You knew what they did- like the flapping elbow, the head first slide- something that made them unique. They were stars and you could see why.

Now I couldn't name the starting lineup for the Twins for a million dollars. The interest level isn't there.

curious as to why that is Laker?

[Laker]

curious as to why that is Laker?

I had a long talk with my friend Jim who is two years older than me. He also coached and loves sports. Part of it is the been there, done that. Part of it is seeing too many people at games who seem to be there to be seen rather than watch the game. Part of it is the overload- you can watch so many games now. I grew up with Harmon Killebrew and Wally Hildenburg and Cesare Maniago. They seemed more personable to me. I could name the middle linebacker and quarterback on every NFL team. Maybe it is just burnout. I still love college sports but I've been turned off by the pros. ESPN has forgotten why people started watching them in the first place. I'd even rather go watch NDSU, SDSU, D2 or D3 teams than I would the Gophers. I'll drive four hours one way for a game rather than an hour and a half to the Twin Cities.

[caribbeanhen]

I had a long talk with my friend Jim who is two years older than me. He also coached and loves sports. Part of it is the been there, done that. Part of it is seeing too many people at games who seem to be there to be seen rather than watch the game. Part of it is the overload- you can watch so many games now. I grew up with Harmon Killebrew and Wally Hildenburg and Cesare Maniago. They seemed more personable to me. I could name the middle linebacker and quarterback on every NFL team. Maybe it is just burnout. I still love college sports but I've been turned off by the pros. ESPN has forgotten why people started watching them in the first place. I'd even rather go watch NDSU, SDSU, D2 or D3 teams than I would the Gophers. I'll drive four hours one way for a game rather than an hour and a half to the Twin Cities.

Thank you

I’m pretty much right in line with you on all of that

Still love my baseball and college football though, but mostly FCS level

We are in an extreme minority in this country

[dgtw]

The Red's starting line-up back then was pretty easy as about half of them are in the HOF.

Perez, Morgan, and Bench are all in the HOF and Rose would be if eligible. The other four were Concepcion, Geronimo, Foster, and Griffey. They were all pretty decent players in their own right.

There was also another HOFer around but he was too young to contribute much.


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[POD Knows]

Perez, Morgan, and Bench are all in the HOF and Rose would be if eligible. The other four were Concepcion, Geronimo, Foster, and Griffey. They were all pretty decent players in their own right.

There was also another HOFer around but he was too young to contribute much.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYea, I included Rose to get to 50%, nice catch though.

[caribbeanhen]

Perez, Morgan, and Bench are all in the HOF and Rose would be if eligible. The other four were Concepcion, Geronimo, Foster, and Griffey. They were all pretty decent players in their own right.

There was also another HOFer around but he was too young to contribute much.


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Jr

[Gil Dobie]

I had a long talk with my friend Jim who is two years older than me. He also coached and loves sports. Part of it is the been there, done that. Part of it is seeing too many people at games who seem to be there to be seen rather than watch the game. Part of it is the overload- you can watch so many games now. I grew up with Harmon Killebrew and Wally Hildenburg and Cesare Maniago. They seemed more personable to me. I could name the middle linebacker and quarterback on every NFL team. Maybe it is just burnout. I still love college sports but I've been turned off by the pros. ESPN has forgotten why people started watching them in the first place. I'd even rather go watch NDSU, SDSU, D2 or D3 teams than I would the Gophers. I'll drive four hours one way for a game rather than an hour and a half to the Twin Cities.

Corporate fans have changed the game from family affordable to family in the nose bleeds. The North Stars were the last haven of player/fan interactions. I used to watch the players come in the West door and watch the fans interact with them. The Stars had $20 family night, 4 tickets and hot dogs. I've noticed Bison football moving that direction since the championship run. A lot of people are there for the tailgate, the beer and to be seen. Corporate fans bring the money, but the REAL fans are left watching on TV, and it's not as personal anymore.

Spring Training baseball games are now at the point of the modern stadium with corporate seats. I still like old Tigertown with Joker Marchant stadium compared to the shiny new stadiums the Twins and Red Sox play in. Lambeau Field is one of the few NFL stadiums with that atmosphere of olden days.

[OhioHen]

I had a long talk with my friend Jim who is two years older than me. He also coached and loves sports. Part of it is the been there, done that. Part of it is seeing too many people at games who seem to be there to be seen rather than watch the game. Part of it is the overload- you can watch so many games now. I grew up with Harmon Killebrew and Wally Hildenburg and Cesare Maniago. They seemed more personable to me. I could name the middle linebacker and quarterback on every NFL team. Maybe it is just burnout. I still love college sports but I've been turned off by the pros. ESPN has forgotten why people started watching them in the first place. I'd even rather go watch NDSU, SDSU, D2 or D3 teams than I would the Gophers. I'll drive four hours one way for a game rather than an hour and a half to the Twin Cities.


Corporate fans have changed the game from family affordable to family in the nose bleeds. The North Stars were the last haven of player/fan interactions. I used to watch the players come in the West door and watch the fans interact with them. The Stars had $20 family night, 4 tickets and hot dogs. I've noticed Bison football moving that direction since the championship run. A lot of people are there for the tailgate, the beer and to be seen. Corporate fans bring the money, but the REAL fans are left watching on TV, and it's not as personal anymore.

Spring Training baseball games are now at the point of the modern stadium with corporate seats. I still like old Tigertown with Joker Marchant stadium compared to the shiny new stadiums the Twins and Red Sox play in. Lambeau Field is one of the few NFL stadiums with that atmosphere of olden days.

To sum up - you followed closely when the players did it mostly for the love of the game and stopped when it became all about the money.

[Laker]

To sum up - you followed closely when the players did it mostly for the love of the game and stopped when it became all about the money.

Pretty much. They seemed like ordinary people who had extraordinary skills. You felt comfortable around them and admired them even more because of that. I had more of a personal connection with both them and the team.

[ngineer]

I remember "Little Joe" when he joined my Philthies for their reknowned year of the "The Wheeze Kids". Made it to the WS in 1983 against the Orioles but ran out of gas. I also enjoyed him as a commentator on the national games.

[Bisonoline]

I remember "Little Joe" when he joined my Philthies for their reknowned year of the "The Wheeze Kids". Made it to the WS in 1983 against the Orioles but ran out of gas. I also enjoyed him as a commentator on the national games.

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