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TexasTerror
June 25th, 2007, 07:20 PM
The greatest technical wrestler of this decade was found dead along with his family. This is really tragic. I can't really believe it. Words can't describe that one. Benoit missed last night's PPV in Houston due to family issues. I guess time will tell us what happened here...

Kinda ironic. Tonight was to be the memorial service for Vince McMahon, who got "blown up" a few weeks in a limo according to the storyline...
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World Wrestling Entertainment is deeply saddened to report that today Chris Benoit and his family were found dead in their home. There are no further details at this time, other than the Benoit family residence is currently being investigated by local authorities.

Tonight’s Raw on USA Network will serve as a tribute to Chris Benoit and his family. WWE extends its sincerest thoughts and prayers to the Benoit family’s relatives and loved ones in this time of tragedy.


http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/benoitdead

CoastalFan2005
June 25th, 2007, 07:44 PM
This is the second actual death since Vince McMahon's "murder." "Sensational Sherri" died recently, as well.

I don't watch wrestling too much anymore, and I wasn't always a Benoit fan - but I do say that he was certainly one of the best people in the profession. xbowx

TexasTerror
June 25th, 2007, 07:49 PM
Unbelievable timing, isn't it?

I'll be watching RAW tonight to see what happens on the show. Had I not checked a wrestling site before I made the initial post, I'd of turned on the three-hour special RAW tonight and been shocked...

Cobblestone
June 25th, 2007, 07:53 PM
I don't watch wrestling anymore either but I do remember watching Benoit in his WCW days. I agree he was an excellent technical wrestler with a strong amateur background. Sad news indeed.

SuperJon
June 25th, 2007, 08:10 PM
I rarely watch it, but I'm fully planning on watching tonight. Benoit was one I always pulled for.

T-Dog
June 25th, 2007, 08:36 PM
The show opened up with Vince McMahon in the middle of the ring (the show was cancelled so the arena was empty) where he said his "death" storyline was a storyline, but this was very real and are now showing Benoit highlights for hte next three hours in tribute.

I'm in such shock right now. He was supposed to win the ECW World Title on Sunday, but he went home because of personal reasons...and now this.

I saw that the police said there were no gunshot wounds and htat it was a news house, I'm thinking a gas or radon leak.

Fresno St. Alum
June 25th, 2007, 08:36 PM
Was Benoit's wife former wrestler "Woman"? The pic they show of his wife looks like her.

NDSUFREAK
June 25th, 2007, 08:50 PM
wow, this is completely shocking right now. yeah, chris benoit match on right now against elijah burke.

TexasTerror
June 25th, 2007, 08:56 PM
Was Benoit's wife former wrestler "Woman"? The pic they show of his wife looks like her.

Yep, Woman is his wife...former wife of Kevin Sullivan too, at that.

Fresno St. Alum
June 25th, 2007, 09:07 PM
So what do you guys think happened? all murdered? murder suicide? what?

813Jag
June 25th, 2007, 09:29 PM
I watched the PPV last night to see Benoit win the ECW title and they announced he wouldn't be there for family reasons. I had a sinking feeling something was really wrong. Then I turned to RAW with some family over and saw a match being replayed. That's when I knew something bad happened.
Karma's something else isn't it?

UNHWildCats
June 25th, 2007, 09:38 PM
one site is reporting he called out last nite for his appearance at a PPV saying his wife and son were sick and throwing up blood.

The local police have said "he WAS NOT shot:.

Mr. Tiger
June 25th, 2007, 10:14 PM
I was shocked when I changed the channel expecting to see the usual show. First Eddie Guerrero and now Benoit. Wow. Benoit was one of my favorites because he could fall out wrestle.

Cobblestone
June 25th, 2007, 10:41 PM
So what do you guys think happened? all murdered? murder suicide? what?

I hope the police are wrong but they are currently treating the investigation as a murder/suicide.


http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/fayette/stories/2007/06/25/0625benoit.html

Fresno St. Alum
June 25th, 2007, 10:52 PM
Thats what I think it is. I wonder if Woman killed them or if Chris did it if it was murder suicide

UNHWildCats
June 25th, 2007, 11:27 PM
WAGA reported that investigators believe Benoit killed his wife and son over the weekend, and then himself sometime Monday.

SuperJon
June 25th, 2007, 11:32 PM
Is there any reason why?


If that's the case, and it turns out he murdered them, I've lost my respect for him and all the positive comments on tonight's Raw are negated.

Fresno St. Alum
June 25th, 2007, 11:34 PM
Yeah, they will need to retract all the 3 hour tribute to him then. I wonder what the WWE will say if/when it comes out he's a murderer

CoastalFan2005
June 25th, 2007, 11:37 PM
I think we're jumping to conclusions a tad too quickly - this just happened today and some of us are ready to recant our good will toward the man "if." I say let all the official reports come out, then let's talk about the rights & wrongs. After all - innocent until proven guilty, am I right?

xtwocentsx

Fresno St. Alum
June 25th, 2007, 11:44 PM
I'm not convicting him yet. However this would be the 3rd boyfriend/husband killing his family this month. If its true which I hope it's not. Only other way I think it could have gone was that she killed both of them. We'll see how it goes down

aggie6thman
June 25th, 2007, 11:47 PM
I think it is too early to tell what really happened over the weekend. In a few days I am sure that a ton more info will come out. Of course, when a whole family is found dead, it never turns out well.

Baldy
June 26th, 2007, 12:37 AM
I hope the police are wrong but they are currently treating the investigation as a murder/suicide.


http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/fayette/stories/2007/06/25/0625benoit.html

This is what really had me xeyebrowx ...


"The details, when they come out," said Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard, "are going to prove a little bizarre."

Strange.

CoastalFan2005
June 26th, 2007, 12:43 AM
WWE.com is reporting on their front page that it is indeed a double-murder suicide from within the home.

Truly a very, very sad day. :(

TexasTerror
June 26th, 2007, 07:27 AM
Several news articles...

From WWE...
http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/superstars/chrisbenoit/articles/benoitupdate

The Corpus Christi Caller Times on RAW cancellation... http://www.caller.com/news/2007/jun/26/wrestling-canceled/


Bret Hart and Hart family respond (Calgary Sun)...
http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/2007/06/26/4290834-sun.html

Fayette (Ga.) County District Attorney Scott Ballard spoke about the alleged murder-suicide here: http://www.thecitizen.com/node/18058

MarkCCU
June 26th, 2007, 07:31 AM
What a shock. It could be a murder suicide. The article I read didn't suggest any foul play or a botched burglary. What a shame.

GoGuins
June 26th, 2007, 07:43 AM
Wow, I liked Benoit from his WCW days. As I was looking up his bio I stumbled across Miss Elizabeth, Macho Man Savage's valet. I didn't know she passed away a few years ago. I always thought she was hot

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Elizabeth

spelunker64
June 26th, 2007, 08:32 AM
I saw that the police said there were no gunshot wounds and htat it was a news house, I'm thinking a gas or radon leak.


Radon is more of a chronic killer, due to long term exposure leading to lung cancer, I doubt that a whole family would be killed by it in a weekend.

FYI T-Dog
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon

Cobblestone
June 26th, 2007, 08:47 AM
I think the WWE really jumped the gun last night with the tribute show. They were certainly correct to cancel the wrestling matches but to give Chris Benoit a hero tribute when the details of the investigation were still in the preliminary findings was premature at best. They should have waited until next week's show after the investigation was final and IF Benoit and his family died some other way, then it would be appropriate to present a show like the one they did last night. Now they have egg on their face because it looks like they glorified a murderer.

All I can think of now is that an innocent 7 year old child is dead. That is where my thoughts and prayers are now.

813Jag
June 26th, 2007, 08:48 AM
I don't know what to think. It's been said that he had marriage problems. xconfusedx But it should never get to that point.

mainejeff
June 26th, 2007, 08:50 AM
Why do so many wrestlers die young? Too many drugs?

xcoffeex

ysubigred
June 26th, 2007, 10:15 AM
Why do so many wrestlers die young? Too many drugs?

xcoffeex

Steroids drive them insane xeyebrowx

My son and daughter are just sick over this. They are big Benoit fan's :(

Eyes of Old Main
June 26th, 2007, 10:42 AM
This story just keeps getting sadder and sadder...

UNHWildCats
June 26th, 2007, 01:07 PM
FAYETTEVILLE, Ga. — Professional wrestler Chris Benoit (http://javascript<b></b>:siteSearch('Chris Benoit');) killed his wife and 7-year-old son before he hanged himself, investigators said Tuesday.

A law enforcement official close to the investigation told The Associated Press that Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son before hanging himself in his weight room.

Earlier, Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution (http://javascript<b></b>:siteSearch('Atlanta Journal-Constitution');) that the details of the deaths are going to prove a little bizarre" when released to the public. Autopsies were scheduled Tuesday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286737,00.html

SunCoastBlueHen
June 26th, 2007, 01:11 PM
FAYETTEVILLE, Ga. — Professional wrestler Chris Benoit (http://javascript<b></b>:siteSearch('Chris Benoit');) killed his wife and 7-year-old son before he hanged himself, investigators said Tuesday.

A law enforcement official close to the investigation told The Associated Press that Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son before hanging himself in his weight room.


xsmhx

Time for a new avatar, Travis.

andy7171
June 26th, 2007, 01:14 PM
xsmhx

Time for a new avatar, Travis.
Seriously. Why pay tribute to a a-hole who killed his little son and wife? :(

813Jag
June 26th, 2007, 01:17 PM
This story gets worse and worse every second. xnonono2x

T-Dog
June 26th, 2007, 01:39 PM
I think the WWE really jumped the gun last night with the tribute show. They were certainly correct to cancel the wrestling matches but to give Chris Benoit a hero tribute when the details of the investigation were still in the preliminary findings was premature at best. They should have waited until next week's show after the investigation was final and IF Benoit and his family died some other way, then it would be appropriate to present a show like the one they did last night. Now they have egg on their face because it looks like they glorified a murderer.

All I can think of now is that an innocent 7 year old child is dead. That is where my thoughts and prayers are now.


Well now they've taken ALL mention of him as a wrestler off their site. Merchandise, profile, EVERYTHING. There not going to mention him on TV anymore unless new info confirming he didn't kill them. There trying to seperate themselves from this as much as possible, which in reality isn't going to work in the minds of the press and the general public.

They had to do something for three hours of TV. They were just reacting to the loss of their co-worker and friend(s). I'm not going to blame them for showing a tribute last night, which was a tribute to the family. I'm sure the people in charge there wouldn't think he would do somethink like this. The first grim details came in at 10 PM, two hours into the show and all the stuff had been pre-taped. Plus all details weren't confirmed for several more hours afterward.

WWE was caught in between a rock and a hard place with this. They reacted as best as they thought. There is no precedent for something like this in the wrestling world.

Also, I'm just throwing it out there that it possibly isn't roid rage. He had a history of concussions and a broken neck. Could have been depression or something of the sort.

UNHWildCats
June 26th, 2007, 01:53 PM
If toxicology reports show he has steroids in his body, then WWE is likely to face some blame in the media.



Steroid abuse has been linked to depression, paranoia, and aggressive behavior or angry outbursts known as "roid rage."

UNHWildCats
June 26th, 2007, 03:31 PM
during press conference today DA says steroids were found by Benoit in the weight room where his body was found. A bible were found beside both his wife and son. There now saying His wife likely died Friday night, his son Saturdday morning and Benoit sometime later Saturday.

T-Dog
June 26th, 2007, 04:04 PM
If toxicology reports show he has steroids in his body, then WWE is likely to face some blame in the media.

You'll definately see some of their guys getting smaller to save face in the general public minds, even if it didn't have much to do with this. WWE has a "wellness policy" to test for steroids but from what I've heard, his were legally prescribed so nothing to do about that under their current policy. Expect that to be revised and expanded upon.

813Jag
June 26th, 2007, 04:20 PM
You'll definately see some of their guys getting smaller to save face in the general public minds, even if it didn't have much to do with this. WWE has a "wellness policy" to test for steroids but from what I've heard, his were legally prescribed so nothing to do about that under their current policy. Expect that to be revised and expanded upon.
You mean like Randy Orton? Dude was busted for wellness and got thinner.

jstate83
June 26th, 2007, 05:07 PM
You'll definately see some of their guys getting smaller to save face in the general public minds, even if it didn't have much to do with this. WWE has a "wellness policy" to test for steroids but from what I've heard, his were legally prescribed so nothing to do about that under their current policy. Expect that to be revised and expanded upon.

Already doing that.
There have been several wrestlers suspended of kicked out for roid use.
Jeff Hardy was damm near out of wrestling because of drugs.
he spent 4 years drifting before he came back to the WWE.

Randy Orton has gotten small as heck compared to when he first came in.

The Masterpeice was big as a truck until he got caught last year doing roids.
WWE suspended him for 8 months.

He came back thin as a rail. He is nearly back to what he was now.
He been back bout 5 months.

Fresno St. Alum
June 26th, 2007, 05:33 PM
It's one thing to OD and take you're own life and do a tribute show, but when there are 3 dead I would have waited to show a tribute. Then when they found out he did it the next week. Just say how sad it was that the son and wife died. Do a quick tribute to "Woman" and be done with Benoit forever

CoastalFan2005
June 26th, 2007, 06:41 PM
Yeah...WWE definitely should have waited to do that tribute show. They probably should have told USA to show a movie instead. But, hindsight is 20/20, and I'm not really going to blame them - they acted off of the information they had at the time. Doesn't make what happened any better, though.

Truly some shocking things coming out in the media today. xsmhx

ISUMatt
June 26th, 2007, 06:53 PM
What an embarassment to the WWE and USA Network to show a tribute to that murderer...Thats why you should wait for the entire story to come out...

813Jag
June 26th, 2007, 07:04 PM
Already doing that.
There have been several wrestlers suspended of kicked out for roid use.
Jeff Hardy was damm near out of wrestling because of drugs.
he spent 4 years drifting before he came back to the WWE.

Randy Orton has gotten small as heck compared to when he first came in.

The Masterpeice was big as a truck until he got caught last year doing roids.
WWE suspended him for 8 months.

He came back thin as a rail. He is nearly back to what he was now.
He been back bout 5 months.

The wellness policy has caught alot of people. But Chris Masters showed the largest drop-off in size.

TexasTerror
June 26th, 2007, 07:23 PM
According to Wrestling Observer...

"Vince made the decision to run Smackdown and ECW tapings tonight without any angles or backstage storylines. The show will consist of straight wrestling matches and like last night, the original shows were scrapped. The attempt to put together a show was difficult because the crew and creative staff were said to be both emotionally and physically wrecked after yesterday."

lambertjr
June 26th, 2007, 07:23 PM
When they finish the investigation and if it is proven the Benoit killed his family, I hope the wrestling world completely removes him from the record books.

How the hell could he do that to his son!?! What a piece of s***!!

TexasTerror
June 26th, 2007, 07:27 PM
When they finish the investigation and if it is proven the Benoit killed his family, I hope the wrestling world completely removes him from the record books.

How the hell could he do that to his son!?! What a piece of s***!!

I'm trying to think about if there are any other similar stories in the wrestling annals...

lambertjr
June 26th, 2007, 07:30 PM
I know there's been quite a few who killed themselves...But they didn't take their whole families with them.

ISUMatt
June 26th, 2007, 08:01 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2917133

Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife, suffocated his 7-year-old son and placed a Bible next to their bodies before hanging himself with the pulley of a weight machine, authorities said Tuesday.

Investigators found prescription anabolic steroids in the house and want to know whether the muscle man nicknamed "The Canadian Crippler" was unhinged by the bodybuilding drugs, which can cause paranoia, depression and explosive outbursts known as "roid rage."

...The district attorney said he believed that the boy had been given growth hormones for some time because the family considered him undersized.

...Ballard said that Benoit's wife, 43, was killed Friday in an upstairs family room, her feet and wrists were bound and there was blood under her head, indicating a possible struggle. Ballard told ESPN.com that it appeared that she had been pinned to the floor and asphyxiated with some sort of cable.

The son, Daniel, was probably killed late Saturday or early Sunday, the body found in his bed, Ballard said. The district attorney indicated that he had been choked to death.

mainejeff
June 26th, 2007, 08:33 PM
during press conference today DA says steroids were found by Benoit in the weight room where his body was found. A bible were found beside both his wife and son. There now saying His wife likely died Friday night, his son Saturdday morning and Benoit sometime later Saturday.

Very sad. xsmhx

jstate83
June 26th, 2007, 09:57 PM
The police is saying that no roids were found.
The drug's found were legal prescription drugs not roids.



WWE® Shocked At Latest Developments In Benoit Tragedy, Concerned By Sensationalistic Reporting
Written: June 26, 2007

STAMFORD, Conn., June 26, 2007 – World Wrestling Entertainment is stunned and saddened by the details released by local authorities concerning the double homicide-suicide involving Chris Benoit, his wife, Nancy, and his son, Daniel.

However, WWE is concerned with the sensationalistic reporting and speculation being undertaken by some members of the media following the press conference held by the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department and the District Attorney. During the press conference, the investigating authorities made the following points, all of which run contrary to the media speculation that "roid rage" was a factor in the senseless murders and suicide:

1. The authorities stated that all drugs found in the house were believed to be legal prescriptions.

2. Steroids were not, and could not, be related to the cause of death (asphyxiation). Authorities had no factual basis to speculate as to Benoit’s state of mind, and rightly did not do so.

3. Toxicology tests have not even been completed, so there is no current evidence that Benoit even had steroids or any other substance in his body. In that regard, on the last test done on Benoit by WWE's independently administered drug testing program, done on April 10, 2007, Benoit tested negative.

4. The physical findings announced by authorities indicate deliberation, not rage. The wife's feet and hands were bound and she was asphyxiated, not beaten to death. By the account of the authorities, there were substantial periods of time between the death of the wife and the death of the son, again suggesting deliberate thought, not rage. The presence of a Bible by each is also not an act of rage.

5. WWE strongly suggests that it is entirely wrong for speculators to suggest that steroids had anything to do with these senseless acts, especially when the authorities plainly stated there is no evidence that Benoit had steroids in his body, pending the toxicological reports, and that they had no evidence at this time as to the motive for these acts.

WWE is continuing to monitor the ongoing investigation being conducted by local authorities.

CoastalFan2005
June 26th, 2007, 10:22 PM
A timeline of events including text messages has been released by WWE.com:

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/chrisbenoittimeline


Early Sunday morning, between 3:51 and 3:58 a.m., Benoit sent five text messages to co-workers:


Text Message 1 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:53am)- Chris Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane, Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”

Text Message 2 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:53am)- Chris Benoit’s cell phone
“The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open”

Text Message 3 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:54am)- Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane.
Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”

Text Message 4 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:55am)- Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane.
Fayetteville Georgia. 30215"

Text Message 5 to one co-worker (sent 6/24 at 3:58am)- Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”

xsmhx

NDSUFREAK
June 26th, 2007, 10:40 PM
unbelievable...

UNHWildCats
June 26th, 2007, 10:41 PM
This from Vince McMahon on air before tonites ECW show.



Last night on Monday Night Raw (http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/), the WWE presented a special tribute show, recognizing the career of Chris Benoit. However, now some 26 hours later, the facts of this horrific tragedy are now apparent. Therefore, other than my comments, there will be no mention of Mr. Benoit tonight. On the contrary, tonight's show will be dedicated to everyone who has been affected by this terrible incident. This evening marks the first step of the healing process. Tonight, the WWE performers will do what they do better than anyone else in the world--entertain you.

NDSUFREAK
June 26th, 2007, 10:43 PM
This from Vince McMahon on air before tonites ECW show.

great statement in my opinion

UNHWildCats
June 26th, 2007, 10:45 PM
The police is saying that no roids were found.
The drug's found were legal prescription drugs not roids.



WWE® Shocked At Latest Developments In Benoit Tragedy, Concerned By Sensationalistic Reporting
Written: June 26, 2007

STAMFORD, Conn., June 26, 2007 – World Wrestling Entertainment is stunned and saddened by the details released by local authorities concerning the double homicide-suicide involving Chris Benoit, his wife, Nancy, and his son, Daniel.

However, WWE is concerned with the sensationalistic reporting and speculation being undertaken by some members of the media following the press conference held by the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department and the District Attorney. During the press conference, the investigating authorities made the following points, all of which run contrary to the media speculation that "roid rage" was a factor in the senseless murders and suicide:

1. The authorities stated that all drugs found in the house were believed to be legal prescriptions.

2. Steroids were not, and could not, be related to the cause of death (asphyxiation). Authorities had no factual basis to speculate as to Benoit’s state of mind, and rightly did not do so.

3. Toxicology tests have not even been completed, so there is no current evidence that Benoit even had steroids or any other substance in his body. In that regard, on the last test done on Benoit by WWE's independently administered drug testing program, done on April 10, 2007, Benoit tested negative.

4. The physical findings announced by authorities indicate deliberation, not rage. The wife's feet and hands were bound and she was asphyxiated, not beaten to death. By the account of the authorities, there were substantial periods of time between the death of the wife and the death of the son, again suggesting deliberate thought, not rage. The presence of a Bible by each is also not an act of rage.

5. WWE strongly suggests that it is entirely wrong for speculators to suggest that steroids had anything to do with these senseless acts, especially when the authorities plainly stated there is no evidence that Benoit had steroids in his body, pending the toxicological reports, and that they had no evidence at this time as to the motive for these acts.

WWE is continuing to monitor the ongoing investigation being conducted by local authorities.

Police are saying they DID find anabolic steroids in the home.

T-Dog
June 27th, 2007, 12:47 AM
Hindsight is 20/20, but IMO, WWE did the right thing AT THE CURRENT TIME last night and the did the right thing AT THE CURRENT TIME tonight.

And I think to blame this on drugs or roids is short-sighted. In the words on Chris Rock "can't we blame the crazy mofo that did this?" The steroids should be irrelevant. It's about the tragic deaths of three people that were public figures.

NDSUFREAK
June 27th, 2007, 01:12 AM
I used to think that Benoit was the best, but now it is definitely The Undertaker. It is just the Undertaker right now and no one else. I dont know what it is but he is the old school.

UNHWildCats
June 27th, 2007, 01:20 AM
I stopped watching the day Bret Hart punched McMahon

ysubigred
June 27th, 2007, 08:36 AM
Check out the list of people below associated with the WWE and all.

Professional wrestling is fake.

The carnage it has left in its wake is not.
Add Chris Benoit to the long list of freakishly muscled carnival attractions for whom a pro wrestling career ended tragically.

Toxicology results are pending and Benoit may well have been battling deeper, more primal personal demons when he reportedly killed his wife and son before taking his own life, but only the most naďve observer could ignore the overwhelming evidence that most wrestlers who look like Benoit have undergone countless cycles of chemical enhancement.

The prescription anabolic steroids found at Benoit's home have long been known to contribute to paranoia, depression and the violent outbursts we've come to know as "roid rage." Couple that with the near-compulsory painkillers a wrestler must take to do his job effectively after enduring countless body slams and you have a cocktail for massive, mind-altering mood swings.

The Benoit story is the latest and most tragic installment in an ongoing saga that the men who get rich promoting professional wrestling would prefer their fans didn't know too much about.

Vince McMahon wants you to think about the stars of today and tomorrow, not the cemetery of steroid-fueled bodies his "sport" has helped put in the ground. But on the grim occasion of the deaths of Nancy and Daniel and Chris Benoit, let's remember some of the other pro wrestlers who died before their time.


Ravishing Rick Rude — Died at 40 of an apparent heart attack in 1999, a bottle of prescription pills for his bad back at his side. The autopsy report said he died of "mixed medications." Rude was an admitted user of anabolic steroids.

Louis Mucciolo, a.k.a, Louie Spicolli — Died in 1998 at age 27 when he suffocated on his own vomit after ingesting massive amounts of Soma and alcohol. Investigators also found an empty vial of testosterone, pain pills and an anti-anxiety drug at the scene.

Brian Pillman — An admitted user of steroids, he died of a heart attack at age 35 in 1997 on the morning of WWF's In Your House: Badd Blood pay-per-view event.

Rick "the Renegade" Williams — Died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at age 33 after being released from his World Championship Wrestling contract in 1999.

"Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig — Found dead of a cocaine overdose at age 44 in his motel room on April 10, 2003, the morning of a match. Hennig's father maintained that steroids and painkillers contributed to his death.

Rodney "Yokozuna" Anoa'i — Died of a heart attack in 2002 at 34.

Davey Boy Smith, "The British Bulldog" — Died of a heart attack at age 39 on May 17, 2002. An autopsy report indicated that past steroid use had likely played a part in his death.

Michael "Road Warrior Hawk" Hegstrand — An admitted steroid user, he died of a heart attack at age 46 in 2003.

Michael Lockwood, "Crash Holly" — In 2003, at the age of 32, he choked to death on his own vomit after ingesting 90 painkiller pills.

Jerry Tuite, "The Wall" a.k.a. "Malice" — Died at age 36 in 2003 of an apparent heart attack in his hotel room.

Raymond "Hercules" Hernandez — Dead of heart failure in 2004 at age 47.

Ray "The Big Boss Man" Traylor — Found dead of a heart attack in 2004 at age 42.

Eddie Guerrero — After a long battle with painkillers, he was found dead of a heart attack by his nephew in his hotel room at age 38. The first person his nephew reportedly called was Guerrero's best friend, Chris Benoit.

Chris Candido — Died in 2005 at age 33 from a blood clot after breaking his tibia and fibula and dislocating his ankle in a pay-per-view event.

Owen Hart — Fell to his death at age 34 in 1999 when the rigging that was lowering him into the ring malfunctioned.
And then there's the story of the Von Erich wrestling family.

Wrestling patriarch Fritz Von Erich, nee Jack Adkisson, had five wrestling sons: Kevin, David, Kerry, Mike and Chris.

David died in a hotel room in Tokyo at the age of 25 in 1984 just as he was embarking on a three-week pro wrestling tour of Japan. The official cause of death was acute enteritis, severe inflammation of the intestines.

Three years later, Mike committed suicide by overdosing on the tranquilizer Placidyl at the age of 23. After David's death, Mike had suffered a series of setbacks including a serious shoulder injury that had left him severely depressed.

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Devastated by the deaths of his older brothers and frustrated by his own limitations as a wrestler, the youngest and smallest brother, Chris, shot himself to death at the age of 21 in 1991.

Two years later, Kerry, who had battled a long addiction to painkillers, died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at the age of 33, leaving eldest brother Kevin as the only survivor of the sport that had defined his family.

And now Chris Benoit, his wife and son have been added to the long, unbearably sad list of victims claimed, in part, by the brutal chemical calculus that is professional wrestling.

There is no arguing that the physical capabilities of these massive men can provide awesome theater. When Hulk Hogan lifted the 500-pound Andre the Giant and dropped him to the canvas, it was legitimately hugely thrilling.

But keep in mind there is a price these impossibly engorged specimens are paying for your entertainment.

And the price for many of them is their very lives.

813Jag
June 27th, 2007, 08:38 AM
Hindsight is 20/20, but IMO, WWE did the right thing AT THE CURRENT TIME last night and the did the right thing AT THE CURRENT TIME tonight.

And I think to blame this on drugs or roids is short-sighted. In the words on Chris Rock "can't we blame the crazy mofo that did this?" The steroids should be irrelevant. It's about the tragic deaths of three people that were public figures.
I agree they did the right thing at the right time, including ending the McMahon angle.

ISUMatt
June 27th, 2007, 08:52 AM
Hindsight is 20/20, but IMO, WWE did the right thing AT THE CURRENT TIME last night and the did the right thing AT THE CURRENT TIME tonight.

And I think to blame this on drugs or roids is short-sighted. In the words on Chris Rock "can't we blame the crazy mofo that did this?" The steroids should be irrelevant. It's about the tragic deaths of three people that were public figures.

I hope you meant tragic death for 2 people...nothing tragic about Benoits hanging

jstate83
June 27th, 2007, 09:03 AM
Police are saying they DID find anabolic steroids in the home.


That's all they are focusing on...............Besides..........That was the DA not the official POLICE statement.
The police said ALL the drug's came from legal prescriptions.
Roids can be used in healing.

I got Roid shot's when I had a problem with my foot.
Had me on them for 2 weeks.

Understand though.............I'm not mot making excuses for Benoit.
That saht was f-ed up what he did.

jstate83
June 27th, 2007, 09:05 AM
I agree they did the right thing at the right time, including ending the McMahon angle.

That was a given.
Like I said.....................McMahnn is a crazy fool but he ain't crazy.xnonox

T-Dog
June 27th, 2007, 10:00 AM
I hope you meant tragic death for 2 people...nothing tragic about Benoits hanging

I don't feel any remorse for him but I meant the tragic deaths of 3 people. Tragedy is "any event with a sad and unfortunate outcome" It's sad and unfourtunate for a human being to take their own life, regardless of the situation IMO. Doesn't mean I feel bad for what he did. I just mean I wish it had at all never happened. I wish death or suicide on NO ONE.

I hate how the news media turned this into steroids again. It's a moot point in the bigger picture of what happened. I defy anyone to tell me steroids is responsible for this. "Roid rage" is one thing. Pre-calculated murders over a two days period is another. I personally now think it was a combo of factors most importnatly inclduing marital problems including the filed divorce, the wear and tear of the WWE road schedule indirectly, and his many past concussions (listeing to what NFL family members said on Capitol Hill indrectly made me think of this)

SuperJon
June 27th, 2007, 11:50 AM
The steroids and/or HGH were for Benoit's son. He was suffering from something along the lines of dwarfism and wasn't developing in the way that his parents thought he should. The parents had him checked out and that's what they got for it.

mcveyrl
June 27th, 2007, 11:54 AM
That's all they are focusing on...............Besides..........That was the DA not the official POLICE statement.
The police said ALL the drug's came from legal prescriptions.
Roids can be used in healing.

I got Roid shot's when I had a problem with my foot.
Had me on them for 2 weeks.

Understand though.............I'm not mot making excuses for Benoit.
That saht was f-ed up what he did.

The prescriptions, according to si.com, came from Signature Pharmacy an online pharmacy that was raided.

SI.com Story on Clinic and Benoit (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/06/26/benoitcase/index.html)

jstate83
June 27th, 2007, 02:26 PM
The prescriptions, according to si.com, came from Signature Pharmacy an online pharmacy that was raided.

SI.com Story on Clinic and Benoit (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/06/26/benoitcase/index.html)

And.................What's that got to do with Benoit?
He ain't the only person to use that pharmacy.

The problem I have is the media only focusing on ROID's like that's the code word for WAR. xlolx
Guess we gonna hear all the "catch phrases" the mainstream "media" has used to describe wrestling over the last 40 years.

Why wasn't the media covering Vince suspending wrestlers left and right over drug use in the last 4 or 5 years.
These are grown men and women.
Vince can't hold their hand and make them not take this stuff.

Ask the Masterpeice.............Chris Masters.
He just got back from a near year suspention for growth harmones 4 months ago.

mcveyrl
June 27th, 2007, 03:14 PM
And.................What's that got to do with Benoit?
He ain't the only person to use that pharmacy.

The problem I have is the media only focusing on ROID's like that's the code word for WAR. xlolx
Guess we gonna hear all the "catch phrases" the mainstream "media" has used to describe wrestling over the last 40 years.

Why wasn't the media covering Vince suspending wrestlers left and right over drug use in the last 4 or 5 years.
These are grown men and women.
Vince can't hold their hand and make them not take this stuff.

Ask the Masterpeice.............Chris Masters.
He just got back from a near year suspention for growth harmones 4 months ago.


I'm just saying that his"prescription" was questionable. I also heard that Benoit passed a drug test in April.

catamount man
June 27th, 2007, 03:43 PM
While I in no way will ever condone the actions by Chris Benoit, I just find it so like McMahon to totally wash himself of a performer who MADE MILLIONS FOR MCMAHON by pushing and punishing his own body FOR McMahon so he could have that spotlight. Certainly, others under Vince's employment in the past have taken their own lives but not their family's lives, and WWE just kinda throws out the bathwater like nothing has happened...and it's happening again. Sorry McMahon, you're not that much of a saint.

I doubt we will ever know the tragic events that unfolded in Benoit's mind to make him snap and I'm not sure I'd want to know, but I pray for his soul and the souls of his wife and son.

Vince, meanwhile, will keep making his boys look like "superheroes" until the next tragedy comes along. Sad.

B&G
June 27th, 2007, 04:33 PM
I am quite sure that football players use steroids. Why don't they have the same tragic end? I think it might have more to do with wrestlers living life on the road for 300 days or more during the year. They never get the chance to be physically or mentally healthy.

kardplayer
June 27th, 2007, 10:19 PM
I am quite sure that football players use steroids. Why don't they have the same tragic end? I think it might have more to do with wrestlers living life on the road for 300 days or more during the year. They never get the chance to be physically or mentally healthy.

The average age at death of NFL players is ridiculously low, especially for people who spend their 20's and 30's in good shape.


- Andre Waters (44) killed himself
- Mike Webster (50) had a heart attack
- Justin Strzelczyk (36) led police on a car chase before crashing and dying
- Terry Long (45) killed himself
- John Matusek (38) heart attack
- Lyle Alzado (43) brain cancer

If by "same tragic end" you mean literally killing child and its mother:
Rae Carruth of the Panthers was convicted of having his pregnant girlfriend killed

UNHWildCats
June 28th, 2007, 01:05 PM
State and Federal officers raided the office of Benoit's physician just after midnight in connection with drugs found in Benoit's home

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287183,00.html

AZGrizFan
June 28th, 2007, 01:21 PM
Ravishing Rick Rude — Died at 40 of an apparent heart attack
Brian Pillman — An admitted user of steroids, he died of a heart attack at age 35
Rodney "Yokozuna" Anoa'i — Died of a heart attack in 2002 at 34.
Davey Boy Smith, "The British Bulldog" — Died of a heart attack at age 39
Michael "Road Warrior Hawk" Hegstrand — he died of a heart attack at age 46 in 2003.
Jerry Tuite, "The Wall" a.k.a. "Malice" — Died at age 36 in 2003 of an apparent heart attack in his hotel room.
Raymond "Hercules" Hernandez — Dead of heart failure in 2004 at age 47.
Ray "The Big Boss Man" Traylor — Found dead of a heart attack in 2004 at age 42.
Eddie Guerrero — he was found dead of a heart attack at age 38.


I just don't understand the willingness to trade your LIFE for a few years of supposed glory. Is fame THAT seductive that you'd be willing to DIE in your 30's or 40's?

Not me! xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx

813Jag
June 28th, 2007, 01:28 PM
I just don't understand the willingness to trade your LIFE for a few years of supposed glory. Is fame THAT seductive that you'd be willing to DIE in your 30's or 40's?

Not me! xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx

Another name on that list is Mike Awsome, he died at 42. He wrestled in Japan, ECW, WCW, and a short time in WWE.

B&G
June 28th, 2007, 01:37 PM
The average age at death of NFL players is ridiculously low, especially for people who spend their 20's and 30's in good shape.


- Andre Waters (44) killed himself
- Mike Webster (50) had a heart attack
- Justin Strzelczyk (36) led police on a car chase before crashing and dying
- Terry Long (45) killed himself
- John Matusek (38) heart attack
- Lyle Alzado (43) brain cancer

If by "same tragic end" you mean literally killing child and its mother:
Rae Carruth of the Panthers was convicted of having his pregnant girlfriend killed

Boy you sure proved me wrong. When did Rae Carruth test positive?

UNHWildCats
June 28th, 2007, 07:27 PM
More weird to the story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chris_Benoit&oldid=140442953

Thats a link to a version of Benoit's wikipedia page that was edited Monday morning at 4:01AM from IP address 69.120.111.23 which wikipedia is saying is registered in Stamford, CT where WWE is headquartered. In the change at the end of the 2006-2007 section it states that Benoit missed the PPV the nite before due to the death of his wife. This was some 11 hours or so before Police discovered the bodies.


Wikipedia says that even though the IP is registered in Stamford that doesnt mean thats where the person was logged on from.



On the June 11 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_11) edition of RAW, Benoit was drafted from SmackDown! to ECW as part of the 2007 WWE Draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE_Brand_Extension), after losing a match to Bobby Lashley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Lashley). Benoit won his ECW (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_Championship_Wrestling_%28WWE%29) debut match teaming up with CM Punk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CM_Punk) and defeating Elijah Burke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elijah_Burke) and Marcus Cor Von (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Brown) by disqualfication. With Lashley's draft to RAW, the ECW World Championship was vacated. Benoit then defeated Elijah Burke to be a contender for the vacated Championship and will face fellow contender CM Punk at Vengeance. However, Chris Benoit was replaced by Johnny Nitro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Nitro) for the ECW Championship match at Vengeance, as Benoit was not there due to personal issues, stemming from the death of his wife Nancy.

T-Dog
June 29th, 2007, 10:49 AM
More weird to the story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chris_Benoit&oldid=140442953

Thats a link to a version of Benoit's wikipedia page that was edited Monday morning at 4:01AM from IP address 69.120.111.23 which wikipedia is saying is registered in Stamford, CT where WWE is headquartered. In the change at the end of the 2006-2007 section it states that Benoit missed the PPV the nite before due to the death of his wife. This was some 11 hours or so before Police discovered the bodies.


Wikipedia says that even though the IP is registered in Stamford that doesnt mean thats where the person was logged on from.


Eh, I saw that this was all started on a chat board and this kind of fake death hoaz stuff happens all the time and it's just an eerie conicidence. It was reported before the PPV that Nancy was sick, coughing up blood (which now we know is false) so for someone to start a fake death hoax story on it really isn't surprising. These are the same kind of people that leave those stupid comments on You Tube videos.

Can't believe Fox News actually reported this. They're really digging to try to get stuff.

And for the record, Geraldo Rivera is an idiot. On O'Reilly last night he didn't say one true thing about this entire case. Same with Nancy Grace.

jstate83
June 29th, 2007, 11:00 AM
Wonder if Benoit change the site trying to tip people off to what he had done so they would be found.
He could have had access to web pages about him through the WWE corp.

When that didn't work, I guess he started Text Msg people talking about the back kitchen door is unlocked and stuff like that before he did himself in.


This is getting stranger by the day..................xsmhx

T-Dog
June 29th, 2007, 12:42 PM
Wonder if Benoit change the site trying to tip people off to what he had done so they would be found.
He could have had access to web pages about him through the WWE corp.



Nope, not at all. Simple fact finding (which the news media in regards to wrestling is poor with) tells otherwise.


The College Student Who 'Knew' About the Benoit Murder-Suicide Before Police


Yesterday it was widely reported by Fox News, the Associated Press, ABC News, digg and a host of other news sites (and originally on Wikinews) that an anonymous user on Wikipedia altered the online encyclopedia's article on Chris Benoit noting the death of the pro-wrestler's wife some 13-14 hours before police found the dead bodies of Benoit, his wife, and 7-year-old son. The incident is being treated as a murder-suicide.


What the anonymous user on Wikipedia may have failed to realize, is that little about your activity on Wikipedia (or the rest of the internet) is anonymous.

Anytime an edit is made to a Wikipedia page, that information along with the user's IP address is logged by the site and publicly accessible. A simple check of these logs paints a much clearer picture of the person who made the aforementioned edits: not someone affiliated with the WWE as the mainstream media suggested, but rather a teenager from the University of Connecticut who just finished his first year of college and vandalizes Wikipedia on a regular basis.

The user who made the Benoit Wikipedia edit also made a several changes dating back to May 16th of this year. In one edit to the page on Naugatuck, Connecticut page, he replaces the name of the town's mayor to Marc Dagz, adding Visar Tasimi as the deputy mayor and also adding the name Burton Barnes to the page.

When these names are cross-referenced on the social-networking website facebook, it is revealed that both Dagz and Barnes are friends and current UConn students, whose hometown is, unsurprisingly, Naugatuck, Connecticut. A check to Tasimi's facebook and MySpace pages shows he is also a friend of the other two from Naugatuck and attending UConn. All of the three recently finished their first year of college. While not knowing which person made the edits for certain, given the specific nature of the other edits and corroborating evidence, it seems almost certain the edits were made by either Marc Dagz, Visar Tasimi, Burton Barnes, or one of their close associates (and one might lean towards Dagz, given his sudden promotion to mayor of his own hometown).

The IP address associated with the user was also widely reported in the media as resolving to Stamford, Connecticut - the headquarters of the WWE. While these facts are in and of themselves true, what most media outlets neglected to mention was that the IP address resolves to the Internet Service Provider of the user and the physical location of the ISP's server. The ISP in this case is Optimum Online, a provider of high-speed internet access across Connecticut - and the location of this server is less than 50 miles away from Naugatuck.

The user was also warned several times in the past for vandalizing and posting erroneous information on Wikipedia. Among them:

On Stacy Keibler:

People want to @!$%# her in her lovely @!$%# and whip her ass til the dawn of day. Many people fantasize about ramming their cocks up her @!$%#.
Regarding Ron Artest:

Artest is a piece of @!$%# ******!!!!!!!
At one point he also replaces the entire page on the African Wild Ass with, simply, 'piss.'

No, this wasn't a person who had foreknowledge of a tragic murder-suicide, it was more likely an immature college freshman with too much time on his hands and a crass sense of humor... whose vandalism just happened to hit a little too close to home.

UPDATED: Wikinews (a seperate project from Wikipedia) is reporting that the user, logging in under the same IP address as the above edits, admits that it was indeed a huge coincidence. Wikinews administrators (and Wikinews logs) confirm it is the same IP address as the original Wikipedia user.

He confesses:

It is one of those things that just turned into a bizarre coincidence. That night I found out that what I posted, ended up actually happening, a 1 in 10,000 chance of happening, or so I thought. I was beyond wrong for posting wrongful information, and I am sorry to everyone for this. I just want everyone to know it was stupid of me, and I will never do anything like this again. I just posted something that was at that time a piece of wrong unsourced information that is typical on wikipedia, as it is done all the time.
Also, I'd like to apologize for my other wiki "updates" on other pages as they were immature and dumb, but I know I'm not the only one who has done this, but nonetheless I will never post anything like that again as I have learned from this.

AZGrizFan
June 29th, 2007, 12:47 PM
Wait. Are you telling me I can't trust wikipedia? xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xrolleyesx xrolleyesx xrolleyesx xrolleyesx

Cobblestone
June 29th, 2007, 12:49 PM
Stupid is as stupid does. Still though, that is one hell of a coincidence.

T-Dog
June 29th, 2007, 01:03 PM
The Ultimate Warrior will be on Fox News tonight at 9 PM. Expect him to bury WWE in every way possible. He's a mental case plain and simple.

I like how ever since this, all these wrestling personalities who are on bad terms with WWE come out of the woodwork. Ex-wife of Steve Austin, Debra Williams, said last night she can relate with Nancy right now.....yeah...then she pushed her own sympathy train talking about her being abused, which don't get confused, is wrong, but she took the attention away from the real story.

Bruce Hart, brother of Bret Hart and the late Owen Hart, said "Oh yeah, Chris has been like this for years. I saw this coming". Nice of him to speak up AFTERWARDS. He's on bad terms with WWE ever since Owen died.

Brain Christopher aka "Grand Master Sexay of Too Cool" buried WWE and told a bunch of half-truths. He's been fired from there twice for missing flights, drug use, rubbing people the wrong way, and other stuff combined.

Also, Bret Hart, someone who has every right to bury WWE for how they treated him in his final days with the company, has defended it and tried to keep the focus on the tragedy. Same with Chris Jericho, whose been gone from WWE for two years (on good terms).

So basically, most all former WWE employees whose being saying bad things about the WWE is pushing their own cause and wanting theri five seconds of fame. Everyone defending it has been brought on to bury it, so the network thinks. Notice the shocked faces on Nancy Grace and Meredith V. when Bret Hart and Jericho defend it.

jstate83
June 29th, 2007, 01:09 PM
Nope, not at all. Simple fact finding (which the news media in regards to wrestling is poor with) tells otherwise.

Stranger and stranger.
This sucks. xsmhx

jstate83
June 29th, 2007, 01:14 PM
The Ultimate Warrior will be on Fox News tonight at 9 PM. Expect him to bury WWE in every way possible. He's a mental case plain and simple.
I like how ever since this, all these wrestling personalities who are on bad terms with WWE come out of the woodwork. Ex-wife of Steve Austin, Debra Williams, said last night she can relate with Nancy right now.....yeah...then she pushed her own sympathy train talking about her being abused, which don't get confused, is wrong, but she took the attention away from the real story.

Bruce Hart, brother of Bret Hart and the late Owen Hart, said "Oh yeah, Chris has been like this for years. I saw this coming". Nice of him to speak up AFTERWARDS. He's on bad terms with WWE ever since Owen died.

Brain Christopher aka "Grand Master Sexay of Too Cool" buried WWE and told a bunch of half-truths. He's been fired from there twice for missing flights, drug use, rubbing people the wrong way, and other stuff combined.

Also, Bret Hart, someone who has every right to bury WWE for how they treated him in his final days with the company, has defended it and tried to keep the focus on the tragedy. Same with Chris Jericho, whose been gone from WWE for two years (on good terms).

So basically, most all former WWE employees whose being saying bad things about the WWE is pushing their own cause and wanting theri five seconds of fame. Everyone defending it has been brought on to bury it, so the network thinks. Notice the shocked faces on Nancy Grace and Meredith V. when Bret Hart and Jericho defend it.

Oh man.xeekx
If Bret Hart decides to Tell ALL, he's gonna roast McMahnn.xeekx

I still remember when McMahnn had it in for him and was "running him off".
Vince altered the agreed upon ending during the match to Bret's last Championship Wrestling match...............Last match period.
Bret was supposed to defend his title, retire, and then had the belt back over to the WWF.xnodx

Vince rang the bell in one of those "close but no cigar" pin's going against Bret.
Bret was supposed to kick out and pin the other guy but never got the chance after Vince rang the Bell.
Bret had no idea what the heck went on when that happened.
Even the ref looked "shocked" for real.

813Jag
June 29th, 2007, 01:19 PM
The Ultimate Warrior will be on Fox News tonight at 9 PM. Expect him to bury WWE in every way possible. He's a mental case plain and simple.
I like how ever since this, all these wrestling personalities who are on bad terms with WWE come out of the woodwork. Ex-wife of Steve Austin, Debra Williams, said last night she can relate with Nancy right now.....yeah...then she pushed her own sympathy train talking about her being abused, which don't get confused, is wrong, but she took the attention away from the real story.

Bruce Hart, brother of Bret Hart and the late Owen Hart, said "Oh yeah, Chris has been like this for years. I saw this coming". Nice of him to speak up AFTERWARDS. He's on bad terms with WWE ever since Owen died.

Brain Christopher aka "Grand Master Sexay of Too Cool" buried WWE and told a bunch of half-truths. He's been fired from there twice for missing flights, drug use, rubbing people the wrong way, and other stuff combined.

Also, Bret Hart, someone who has every right to bury WWE for how they treated him in his final days with the company, has defended it and tried to keep the focus on the tragedy. Same with Chris Jericho, whose been gone from WWE for two years (on good terms).

So basically, most all former WWE employees whose being saying bad things about the WWE is pushing their own cause and wanting theri five seconds of fame. Everyone defending it has been brought on to bury it, so the network thinks. Notice the shocked faces on Nancy Grace and Meredith V. when Bret Hart and Jericho defend it.
I've got to see this interview, Warrior should be at his best.

AZGrizFan
June 29th, 2007, 01:19 PM
Oh man.xeekx
If Bret Hart decides to Tell ALL, he's gonna roast McMahnn.xeekx

I still remember when McMahnn had it in for him and was "running him off".
Vince altered the agreed upon ending during the match to Bret's last Championship Wrestling match...............Last match period.
Bret was supposed to defend his title, retire, and then had the belt back over to the WWF.xnodx

Vince rang the bell in one of those "close but no cigar" pin's going against Bret.
Bret was supposed to kick out and pin the other guy but never got the chance after Vince rang the Bell.
Bret had no idea what the heck went on when that happened.
Even the ref looked "shocked" for real.

I just don't understand the attraction in all this.

WWE/WWF has got to be the most ridiculous "sport" on TV. These guys are dying left and right, for what? To line Vince's pockets.... xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx

MarkCCU
June 29th, 2007, 01:40 PM
Yokuzuna died! I had no idea. wow

jstate83
June 29th, 2007, 01:41 PM
I just don't understand the attraction in all this.

WWE/WWF has got to be the most ridiculous "sport" on TV. These guys are dying left and right, for what? To line Vince's pockets.... xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx

That's because your looking at it as "true sport" while fans look at it as nothing more than another TV ACTION SHOW with storylines.
Comic book hero's and Villians that can't be "hurt".xnodx

You can't name 1 sitcom, reality show, or daytime soap on TV that people stand around the water cooler talking about that has 1 ounce of truth to it.
Difference is those shows are "acceptable" and wrestling is not to the PC crowd that think it's too violent or that wrestling fans are "uneducated" as compared to them.


BTW: I'll wager 98% of these guy's die from natural causes, accidents, or drugs AFTER they leave the life if you looked at the fact's instead of sensationalism.
It just look's like all these guy's are dying from ROID's during their carear's because that's the only time the "mainstream" media, ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, takes interest.xnodx

AZGrizFan
June 29th, 2007, 02:13 PM
That's because your looking at it as "true sport" while fans look at it as nothing more than another TV ACTION SHOW with storylines.
Comic book hero's and Villians that can't be "hurt".xnodx

You can't name 1 sitcom, reality show, or daytime soap on TV that people stand around the water cooler talking about that has 1 ounce of truth to it.
Difference is those shows are "acceptable" and wrestling is not to the PC crowd that think it's too violent or that wrestling fans are "uneducated" as compared to them.



OH YES I CAN!!!!!

DEADLIEST CATCH! xnodx xnodx xnodx xnodx xnodx xnodx xnodx The only true "reality" show on TV.

And I never said anything about wrestling fans being "uneducated". Just don't get the attraction. I also never said I looked at it as true sport. Just don't get the attraction.

Try not putting words in my mouth. xthumbsupx xpeacex

jstate83
June 29th, 2007, 02:29 PM
OH YES I CAN!!!!!

DEADLIEST CATCH! xnodx xnodx xnodx xnodx xnodx xnodx xnodx The only true "reality" show on TV.

And I never said anything about wrestling fans being "uneducated". Just don't get the attraction. I also never said I looked at it as true sport. Just don't get the attraction.

Try not putting words in my mouth. xthumbsupx xpeacex


I said you but I was speaking in general based on all the argument's people shoot at me because I watch..............xoopsx


And as for the Deadliest Catch..............xeekx
Well now.........xlolx ...........My BOY's on that show don't count!! xlolx xlolx
They real as it get's.xthumbsupx

T-Dog
June 29th, 2007, 02:35 PM
Yokuzuna died! I had no idea. wow

Yeah, he gainen EVEN MORE WEIGHT after wrestling (somewhere near 700 pounds) and did something to the effect of rolling over in bed and cutting off heart ciculation and died.


Vince rang the bell in one of those "close but no cigar" pin's going against Bret.
Bret was supposed to kick out and pin the other guy but never got the chance after Vince rang the Bell.
Bret had no idea what the heck went on when that happened.
Even the ref looked "shocked" for real.

Uh...ahem

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IxSSgYxyApM

AZGrizFan
June 30th, 2007, 03:53 AM
I said you but I was speaking in general based on all the argument's people shoot at me because I watch..............xoopsx


And as for the Deadliest Catch..............xeekx
Well now.........xlolx ...........My BOY's on that show don't count!! xlolx xlolx
They real as it get's.xthumbsupx

Gotcha. xthumbsupx

TexasTerror
June 30th, 2007, 08:27 PM
I don't consider myself 'poor' or 'trash'...xrolleyesx http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
xrolleyesx

813Jag
June 30th, 2007, 11:34 PM
I'm neither white nor trash. xlolx I've been a WWe fan since at least 1985.

Grizo406
June 30th, 2007, 11:55 PM
I consider myself solvent white trash.

HIU 93
July 1st, 2007, 09:25 AM
I'm not white, and I am hardly trash. I am what we call "bourgeois". I have, however, been a wrestling fan since 1974 or 75.

TexasTerror
July 1st, 2007, 03:22 PM
Maxim takes odds on who will be the next WWE star to past...

Odds on faves are Terry Funk and Mick Foley..

http://www.maximonline.com/articles/index.aspx?a_id=7617

BigApp
July 1st, 2007, 11:20 PM
I'm not white, and I am hardly trash. I am what we call "bourgeois". I have, however, been a wrestling fan since 1974 or 75.

please tell me you're an NWA man, specifically Mid-Atlantic Championship wrestling!

BigApp
July 1st, 2007, 11:23 PM
Maxim takes odds on who will be the next WWE star to past...

Odds on faves are Terry Funk and Mick Foley..

http://www.maximonline.com/articles/index.aspx?a_id=7617

that site se the Amewicuhn Dweem Duthy Rothes is 41 years old. hell he was 41 41 years ago!

oh, and they've got Jake The Snake at even money (1-1)

UNHWildCats
July 2nd, 2007, 12:14 PM
that site se the Amewicuhn Dweem Duthy Rothes is 41 years old. hell he was 41 41 years ago!

oh, and they've got Jake The Snake at even money (1-1)

I know when I saw the age I was thinking I was confusing Dusty and Dustin Rhodes and was thinking dang he got to looking like his dad real quick lol

UNHWildCats
July 2nd, 2007, 12:15 PM
Not a reputable source for this but its being reported that Chris Benoit ended his sons life using his crossface crippler finishing move.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2003560001-2007300340,00.html

Cobblestone
July 2nd, 2007, 12:18 PM
Not a reputable source for this but its being reported that Chris Benoit ended his sons life using his crossface crippler finishing move.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2003560001-2007300340,00.html

May Chris Benoit burn in hell. BTW, this is from a one time fan of the guy. xmadx

SU Jag
July 2nd, 2007, 12:24 PM
May Chris Benoit burn in hell. BTW, this is from a one time fan of the guy. xmadx


I was too!xmadx xmadx The more I read, the more I get mad!xmadx

UNHWildCats
July 2nd, 2007, 12:55 PM
Benoit doctor to turn self in, face charge of improperly prescribing medication.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19552752/