The First Black Coach at a Predominantly White University

[Casey_Orourke]

I was browsing the Oregonian just to catch up on the news xreadx when I found this article. It just shows how one man can make a difference.xthumbsupx


http://www.oregonlive.com/vikingsfootball/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/sports/117912572563500.xml&coll=7&thispage=1

[813Jag]

Interesting story. xthumbsupx It's one that needs to be shared more often. You can't learn where you're going until you've learned where you've been.

[Umass74]

UMass had a black head coach in 1904.

Article here (http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/article.asp?intID=5728).

UMass went 5-2-1 that year with wins over Williams, Wesleyan, Springfield College, Worcester Polytech and Tufts.

[Casey_Orourke]

UMass had a black head coach in 1904.

Article here (http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/article.asp?intID=5728).

UMass went 5-2-1 that year with wins over Williams, Wesleyan, Springfield College, Worcester Polytech and Tufts.

That was mentioned in the article....To bad they did not elaborate the fact.

[MplsBison]

I think Buffalo has a black head coach.

He even has a white wife.

[Seawolf97]

Buffalo's coach was a big time running back out of Nebraska. I think he is in his second or third season up there.

[cirnite]

Turner Gill, the Buffalo head coach, actually played QB @ Nebraska for Tom Osbourne from 1981-1983. xpeacex

[Seawolf97]

Thanks for the input

[MplsBison]

When will the SUNY programs turn the corner in DI football?


SUNJ has clearly done it. Now it's time for the other side of the river!

[JALMOND]

Actually the story was about the first black head coach at a non-HBCU after WWII. I read it when it first came out a few weeks ago. Portland State has always been a traditonally urban campus.

[Casey_Orourke]

Actually the story was about the first black head coach at a non-HBCU after WWII. I read it when it first came out a few weeks ago. Portland State has always been a traditonally urban campus.

I stand correctedxoopsx

[JALMOND]

I stand correctedxoopsx

Not too corrected. Portland State is an urban campus, but would probably not be considered a "black" campus. I saw recently that Portland itself was named the "whitest" city in America.

Based on that, I'd give you back half.

[andy7171]

When will the SUNY programs turn the corner in DI football?


SUNJ has clearly done it. Now it's time for the other side of the river!
Um, what river are we speaking of?

[slostang]

When I started to read the article I thought it would of happened in the early '60's. It is sad that this was only 35 years ago. We have made progress, but still have a long way to go.

[MplsBison]

Um, what river are we speaking of?

Hudson

[andy7171]

Hudson
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[UAalum72]

Hudson
Albany's on the same side of the Hudson River as New Jersey. So is Buffalo. And over 80% of New York State (by area).

[RabidRabbit]

Albany's on the same side of the Hudson River as New Jersey. So is Buffalo. And over 80% of New York State (by area).

Dang the facts Man! xsmiley_wix

You know what the twin city spout saying? xeyebrowx xlolx xlolx xlolx

[UAalum72]

Dang the facts Man! xsmiley_wix

You know what the twin city spout saying? xeyebrowx xlolx xlolx xlolx
Yeah but I thought I'd confuse him with fact.

Since the SUNY system doesn't have a single flagship like NJ, each campus is on its own, without anything like statewide or even regional fan identification.

[Dane96]

And SUNJ is about half the size of SUNY with a new budget for athletics nearing 70mm when the new stadium work starts. SUNY has an insane amount of Universities, Colleges, and CC's. Jersey has ONE DI state school; NY has FOUR...and we are about 100 years late to the party regarding big time sports.

The Gov is reorganizing the NY system...and I am sure sports will be a part of it.

Largest systems: CA, NY, and I am not sure if TEXAS has finally surpassed Michigan.

[MplsBison]

Yeah well I think it's obvious that within the next 10 years Stony Brook will be the Rutgers of the SUNY system.

It's too obvious given their market and current AAU status.


Even the fact that they're leading the way to 63 scholarships is telling of the situation.

[danefan]

Yeah well I think it's obvious that within the next 10 years Stony Brook will be the Rutgers of the SUNY system.

It's too obvious given their market and current AAU status.


Even the fact that they're leading the way to 63 scholarships is telling of the situation.

Actually leading the way to 63 scholarships is not telling of any situation. Many folks (including myself) think they rushed to 63 rides and its very possible that this will hurt them in the long run. We'll have to wait and see though.

[MplsBison]

Hurt them?

"Coach what happened out there today?"

"We just had too much depth..."



Come on.

[Dane96]

Its obvious...that Mpls likes to talk out of his arse!

[danefan]

Its obvious...that Mpls likes to talk out of his arse!


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[UAalum72]

He also ignores that Buffalo is already at 85 schollies and FBS, and shows no signs of becoming 'Rutgers' - unless he means the Rutgers that was a laughingstock only a few years ago.

[MplsBison]

Probably because Buffalo is a small market in the middle of no where.

It's basically Canada.


If Buffalo was in the NYC market, like Stony Brook is, they would have had much more success.


There's no need to be jealous of SB's market or their AAU status.

[DFW HOYA]

Yeah well I think it's obvious that within the next 10 years Stony Brook will be the Rutgers of the SUNY system.
It's too obvious given their market and current AAU status.


Stony Brook is 60 miles from New York and is covered more as a "Long Island" school by the NYC press. It's actually closer to New Haven across the Long Island Sound.

[Dane96]

Again, talking out of your arse.

Buffalo is either the second or third largest city in NY. It supports TWO professional sports teams to virtual sellouts. They almost got an MLB team in the last expansion...to play at the stadium THE NATURAL was filmed in (expandable to 45k).

Buffalo's failures are WELL documented and were actually the focus of a major study. Buffalo's failures are because they were pushed, without proper funding, from being a bad DIII to a bad D-IAA to a bad I-A program in about 10 years.

Believe me...I SIGNED MY SCHOLARSHIP with Buffalo...and left prior to the first day of classes when I saw how horrid the situation was in all sports.

My scholarship was not for football...but I know all about that program.

YOU SHOULD JUST SHUT THE F UP ALREADY...and go back to your little world you live in.

You do nothing but talk out of your arse and, when confronted with fact, talk some more nonsense.

Learn to defer to WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT at times.

It will make you a better person.

[MplsBison]

Not significantly longer from downtown NY to SB than it is to Rutgers.

[MplsBison]

Buffalo is either the second or third largest city in NY. It supports TWO professional sports teams to virtual sellouts. They almost got an MLB team in the last expansion...to play at the stadium THE NATURAL was filmed in (expandable to 45k).

Having a large city population means nothing in terms of market, of which Buffalo has a small market. 49th largest in the US according to http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=719690

And they were never even in the consideration for an MLB team.

Vegas and Portland will be the next cities.

[Dane96]

Ummm....yes, they were...if you learned to read. When Florida and Arizona got the expansion, Buffalo made it to the final rounds.

Additionally, if BUFFALO CANT SUPPORT THE COLLEGE TEAM BECAUSE THEY ARE THE 49th media market, how on earth do they sell out for hockey and football.

Additionally, the folllowing, all below Buffalo's 49th ranking, all have major support for pro and college teams:

Jacksonville
Fresno
Knoxville
Lexington
Wichita
Tuscon
Green Bay
Syracuse
Champaign
Columbia (SC)
South Bend
Baton Rouge


Shall I continue?!

[HIU 93]

UMass had a black head coach in 1904.

Article here (http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/article.asp?intID=5728).


Back to topic (somewhat)- Your link mentions the history of Blacks at Ivy schools. While not sports, Cornell Univiersity was the site of a very significant event in Black History.

On December 4, 1906, seven young men met and formed Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. This would be the first Black collegiate fraternity in history. The Alphas recently celebrated their centennial.

Some of their more prominent members are-

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
The Honorable Thurgood Marshall
Coach Eddie Robinson

...and the following

Sports

Jesse Owens
Fritz Pollard
Art Shell
Gene Upshaw
Lenny Wilkens
Wes Unseld

Entertainment

Duke Ellington
Donny Hathaway
Stuart Scott
Keenan Ivory Wayans

Activists

W.E.B. Dubois
Writer, Historian, Civil Rights Activist

Adam Clayton Powell, Jr.
Civil Rights Activist

Paul Robeson
Activist, Scholar, Singer, Football Player

Dick Gregory
Activist

Education/Scholarship

John Hope Franklin
Historian, Professor Emeritus, Duke University

E. Franklin Frazier
Sociologist

Dennis Kimbro
Author

Dr. Ronald J. Temple
Chancellor, City Colleges of Chicago

Dr. Cornell West
Professor, Author

Andrew Zawacki
Rhodes Scholar, Author

Norm Francis
President, Xavier University

Military

Fred A. Gorden
Brigadier General

Samuel Gravely
Admiral

Benjamin Hacker
Rear Admiral

Edward Honor
Major General

James McCall
Major General

Science/Medicine

Dr. Lessall D. Leffall
President, American College of Surgeons

Garrett Morgan
Inventor, Traffic Signal

Louis Sullivan
Former Secretary of Health and Human

Winston Scott
Commander NASA

Government/Politics

Kwame Kilpatrick
Dennis Archer
Richard Arrington
Willie Brown
David Dinkins
Emmanuel Cleaver
Chaka Fattah
Earl Hilliard
Maynard Jackson
Earnest "Dutch" Morial
Marc Morial
Charles Rangel
Robert C. Scott
Andrew Young

Business

Thomas J. Burrell
CEO, Burrell Advertising

W. Melvin Brown
CEO, American Development Corp.

Delano Lewis
President, National Public Radio

Henry Parks
Founder, Parks Sausages, Inc.

[andy7171]

Some of their more prominent members are-

I don't see HIU93 on this list? :)

[HIU 93]

I don't see HIU93 on this list? :)

I respect the Alphas, but I am NOT an Alpha.

I am a proud member of Omega Psi Phi Fraternity, Inc.

[Panther88]

When I started to read the article I thought it would of happened in the early '60's. It is sad that this was only 35 years ago. We have made progress, but still have a long way to go.

This is during most of our own lifetimes. Shows how far this society has come and how far it must go.

Equality and access should not be used in the same sentence in this country no time soon. :)

[SU Jag]

Back to topic (somewhat)- Your link mentions the history of Blacks at Ivy schools. While not sports, Cornell Univiersity was the site of a very significant event in Black History.

On December 4, 1906, seven young men met and formed Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. This would be the first Black collegiate fraternity in history. The Alphas recently celebrated their centennial.

Some of their more prominent members are-

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
The Honorable Thurgood Marshall
Coach Eddie Robinson

...and the following

Sports

Jesse Owens
Fritz Pollard
Art Shell
Gene Upshaw
Lenny Wilkens
Wes Unseld

Entertainment

Duke Ellington
Donny Hathaway
Stuart Scott
Keenan Ivory Wayans

Activists

W.E.B. Dubois
Writer, Historian, Civil Rights Activist

Adam Clayton Powell, Jr.
Civil Rights Activist

Paul Robeson
Activist, Scholar, Singer, Football Player

Dick Gregory
Activist

Education/Scholarship

John Hope Franklin
Historian, Professor Emeritus, Duke University

E. Franklin Frazier
Sociologist

Dennis Kimbro
Author

Dr. Ronald J. Temple
Chancellor, City Colleges of Chicago

Dr. Cornell West
Professor, Author

Andrew Zawacki
Rhodes Scholar, Author

Norm Francis
President, Xavier University

Military

Fred A. Gorden
Brigadier General

Samuel Gravely
Admiral

Benjamin Hacker
Rear Admiral

Edward Honor
Major General

James McCall
Major General

Science/Medicine

Dr. Lessall D. Leffall
President, American College of Surgeons

Garrett Morgan
Inventor, Traffic Signal

Louis Sullivan
Former Secretary of Health and Human

Winston Scott
Commander NASA

Government/Politics

Kwame Kilpatrick
Dennis Archer
Richard Arrington
Willie Brown
David Dinkins
Emmanuel Cleaver
Chaka Fattah
Earl Hilliard
Maynard Jackson
Earnest "Dutch" Morial
Marc Morial
Charles Rangel
Robert C. Scott
Andrew Young

Business

Thomas J. Burrell
CEO, Burrell Advertising

W. Melvin Brown
CEO, American Development Corp.

Delano Lewis
President, National Public Radio

Henry Parks
Founder, Parks Sausages, Inc.


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