Update on Deion Sanders and Jackson State

[bluedog]

Jackson State is closing in on a hire, and sources continue to indicate that Deion Sanders has been the target of Jackson State’s search to become the Tigers’ next head coach.

FootballScoop first reported on Sanders’ candidacy late last month. Local reporters confirmed representatives of JSU had met with Sanders; but subsequently denied that Sanders was truly a candidate to the local newspaper. Sanders recently left NFL Network for Barstool Sports and is active on Twitter, and — unless we’ve missed it — thus far has not addressed the report.

https://footballscoop.com/news/update-on-deion-sanders-and-jackson-state/

[Professor]

Jackson State is desperate.

[bluedog]

Jackson State is desperate.Why are they desparate?

[bluedog]

Deion Sanders, a Pro and College Football Hall of Famer, is expected to be named the next head coach at Jackson State, sources told HBCU Sports.

Sources indicated that Sanders, who is currently the offensive coordinator at Trinity Christian High School in Desoto, Texas, where his son, Shedeur, is the starting quarterback, will be named JSU’s head coach.

A press conference, sources said, is expected Monday at 10 a.m.

Sanders surfaced as a candidate for the Jackson State job after the school decided not to move forward with John Hendrick in a surprise move in late August.

read rest story...........

https://www.hbcusports.com/2020/09/17/sources-jackson-state-to-name-deion-sanders-new-head-football-coach/?no_cache=1&fbclid=IwAR2NbbwKOLvvz70GEMAlxPHy9h9NhgKtfS3nc-Jn30VdO631O7Olt9QPIVA

[Schism55]

https://twitter.com/HBCUSports/status/1306668565844631552

Will certainly help with recruiting...but can he actually coach?

[bluedog]

https://twitter.com/HBCUSports/status/1306668565844631552

Will certainly help with recruiting...but can he actually coach?Well we're about to find out.

[bluedog]

Deion Sanders reportedly expected to be next Jackson State coach, university rep says 'nothing is official'

Deion Sanders could be headed to the Magnolia State after all.

Kendrick Marshall of HBCU Sports reported Sanders will be named Jackson State's next head coach Thursday afternoon. On Wednesday night, Jackson State athletic director Ashley Robinson announced the program will name its new head coach in "five-to-six days." ESPN's The Undefeated also listed Sanders a rumored candidate for the position Wednesday night.

https://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/2020/09/17/deion-sanders-reportedly-expected-next-jackson-state-coach-university-rep-says-nothing-official/3484797001/

[Professor]

Why are they desparate?

Deion is a High School Offensive Coordinator. He has never coached FCS football. Or recuited. Or had to keep kids eligible.

JSU tried this already with Harold Jackson. He was a former NFL player. Went 6-11 and was fired. They are desperate because they are using Deion to get media attention on the program.

JSU needs a proven HC to rebuild that program.

It will be good TV tho

[bluedog]

Deion is a High School Offensive Coordinator. He has never coached FCS football. Or recuited. Or had to keep kids eligible.

JSU tried this already with Harold Jackson. He was a former NFL player. Went 6-11 and was fired. They are desperate because they are using Deion to get media attention on the program.

JSU needs a proven HC to rebuild that program.

It will be good TV tho You just described 25% if not more, of the coaches in college football. So what's your point?

[Professor]

Every HC in the SWAC has prior college experience so i find your 25 percent stat hard to believe

SWAC Coaches Prior Experience before getting HC job

EAST
Bama A&M -HC Hampton
Bama St - HC Morgan State
FAMU - HC PVA&M
BCU - Asst HC BCU
MVSU - MVSU D Coordinator


WEST

Alcorn - Alcorn QB Coach
UAPB - Asst HC and QB Coach UAPB
Grambling - McNeese State WR Coach
PVA&M - OC Grambling
Southern - DC Southern
TXSU -Asst HC and RB Coach Arizona

[bluedog]

Every HC in the SWAC has prior college experience so i find your 25 percent stat hard to believe

SWAC Coaches Prior Experience before getting HC job

EAST
Bama A&M -HC Hampton
Bama St - HC Morgan State
FAMU - HC PVA&M
BCU - Asst HC BCU
MVSU - MVSU D Coordinator


WEST

Alcorn - Alcorn QB Coach
UAPB - Asst HC and QB Coach UAPB
Grambling - McNeese State WR Coach
PVA&M - OC Grambling
Southern - DC Southern
TXSU -Asst HC and RB Coach ArizonaDoug Williams didn't and the last time I checked. There's no requirement by the swac or any other conference that their head coach has to have college experience. I'm not the sharpest knife in the kitchen but I'm pretty sure there's more than enough history of coaches who's been hired with out them having college experience. Using this hillbilly logic new college coach should ever get an NFL job

[caribbeanhen]

I heard Deon was pretty good at football but I remember him as an Atlanta Brave, 2 way players always impress

[Professor]

Doug Williams didn't and the last time I checked. There's no requirement by the swac or any other conference that their head coach has to have college experience. I'm not the sharpest knife in the kitchen but I'm pretty sure there's more than enough history of coaches who's been hired with out them having college experience. Using this hillbilly logic new college coach should ever get an NFL job

Doug Williams was the Head Coach of Morehouse College (D2) in Atlanta, GA in 1997 before leaving in 1998 to go to Grambling


https://buffalonews.com/news/doug-williams-hired-as-morehouse-coach/article_25c351fd-81a7-5d28-99cc-6877d8e4d20e.html

keep trying lol

[bluedog]

Doug Williams was the Head Coach of Morehouse College (D2) in Atlanta, GA in 1997 before leaving in 1998 to go to Grambling


https://buffalonews.com/news/doug-williams-hired-as-morehouse-coach/article_25c351fd-81a7-5d28-99cc-6877d8e4d20e.html

keep trying lolLast time I checked Morehouse is a college and Doug was coaching my nephew at a high school in Louisiana before they hire him. I know it hurts to think beyond the little box you love to live in. But give it a shot sometime.

[Panther88]

Last time I checked Morehouse is a college and Doug was coaching my nephew at a high school in Louisiana before they hire him. I know it hurts to think beyond the little box you love to live in. But give it a shot sometime.

Even in our case, we hired two unproven and no HC'ing experience in Willie Simmons and now Eric Dooley. Guess we should have never hired both lol.

There has to be a start somewhere and I certainly wish fhe best for JSU as they help our conference continue to elevate.

[Professor]

Last time I checked Morehouse is a college and Doug was coaching my nephew at a high school in Louisiana before they hire him. I know it hurts to think beyond the little box you love to live in. But give it a shot sometime.

Even you are smart enough to know the difference between a FCS school and a D2 school.

But hey

[bluedog]

Even you are smart enough to know the difference between a FCS school and a D2 school.

But heyI'm also smart enough to not get on sports board acting like no FCS schools has never hired a coach that didn't have college head coaching experience

[Professor]

Even in our case, we hired two unproven and no HC'ing experience in Willie Simmons and now Eric Dooley. Guess we should have never hired both lol.

There has to be a start somewhere and I certainly wish fhe best for JSU as they help our conference continue to elevate.


Simmons worked three seasons at Alcorn State (2012-14) . That's college experience. Deion is a High School Offensive Coord

Eric Dooley is

1997–2010
Southern (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Jaguars_football) (assistant)


2011–2013
Arkansas–Pine Bluff (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas%E2%80%93Pine_Bluff_Golden_Lions_football) (OC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offensive_coordinator)/QB)


2014
Grambling State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grambling_State_Tigers_football) (OC/QB)


2015
Grambling State (OC)


2016–2017
Grambling State (OC/WR)


2018–present
Prairie View A&M (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prairie_View_A%26M_Panthers_football)



Again more experience than Deion

[DFW HOYA]

Doug Williams didn't and the last time I checked. There's no requirement by the swac or any other conference that their head coach has to have college experience. I'm not the sharpest knife in the kitchen but I'm pretty sure there's more than enough history of coaches who's been hired with out them having college experience. Using this hillbilly logic new college coach should ever get an NFL job

NCAA rules require a coach to have a college degree. Looks like that just happened.

https://abc3340.com/news/local/hall-of-famer-deion-sanders-graduates-from-talladega-college

[bluedog]

NCAA rules require a coach to have a college degree. Looks like that just happened.

https://abc3340.com/news/local/hall-of-famer-deion-sanders-graduates-from-talladega-collegeYeah, this was posted some time ago

[Puddin Tane]

Deion is a High School Offensive Coordinator. He has never coached FCS football. Or recuited. Or had to keep kids eligible.

JSU tried this already with Harold Jackson. He was a former NFL player. Went 6-11 and was fired. They are desperate because they are using Deion to get media attention on the program.

JSU needs a proven HC to rebuild that program.

It will be good TV tho

He’s coaching at a TAPPS high school with money. Guarantee hes got some recruiting experience!

[DFW HOYA]

He’s coaching at a TAPPS high school with money. Guarantee he's got some recruiting experience!

TAPPS is such an odd collection of schools. TC-Cedar Hill says it's the "oldest and largest Christian school in South Dallas" (Bishop Dunne HS would beg to differ, and TC isn't even in Dallas) but the high school is only about 110 boys in grades 9-12.

[bluedog]

Sources: Jackson State to name Deion Sanders new head football coach


Deion Sanders, a Pro and College Football Hall of Famer, is expected to be named the next head coach at Jackson State, sources told HBCU Sports.

Sources indicated that Sanders, who is currently the offensive coordinator at Trinity Christian High School in Desoto, Texas, where his son, Shedeur, is the starting quarterback, will be named JSU’s head coach.

A press conference, sources said, is expected Monday at 10 a.m.

Sanders surfaced as a candidate for the Jackson State job after the school decided not to move forward with John Hendrick in a surprise move in late August

A deal with Sanders is reportedly being finalized despite a potential conflict with the school’s Nike sponsorship. Sanders has a contract with Under Armour.

https://www.hbcusports.com/2020/09/17/sources-jackson-state-to-name-deion-sanders-new-head-football-coach/

[Puddin Tane]

Didnt realize they’d been booted from TAPPS
https://www.dallasnews.com/high-school-sports/football/2019/12/18/trinity-christian-cedar-hill-terminated-from-tapps-after-handful-of-alleged-violations-including-use-of-controlled-substance-after-state-championship/


not sure being the OC at a small private school prepares you for HC in the FCS, but it aint my school...

[bluedog]

Didnt realize they’d been booted from TAPPS
https://www.dallasnews.com/high-school-sports/football/2019/12/18/trinity-christian-cedar-hill-terminated-from-tapps-after-handful-of-alleged-violations-including-use-of-controlled-substance-after-state-championship/


not sure being the OC at a small private school prepares you for HC in the FCS, but it aint my school...You're from Texas or at least have an affiliation these southern parts. So you should

[Panther88]

You're from Texas or at least have an affiliation these southern parts. So you should

Be careful blue. Those who follow tx hs football know the truth how stories like Art Briles and Todd Dodge made their ascension and jumps to college football HC'ing positions from hs. A few must use "goggle" because they are highly unfamiliar w/ those names. xlolx

[bluedog]

Be careful blue. Those who follow tx hs football know the truth how stories like Art Briles and Todd Dodge made their ascension and jumps to college football HC'ing positions from hs. A few must use "goggle" because they are highly unfamiliar w/ those names. xlolxBetween Louisiana and Texas, small private schools have been producing P5 products like rabbits produce kittens for decades.

[BEAR]

HOME
09/18
TRINITY CHRISTIAN
Hornet Stadium, BRYANT, AR
7:00 PM















I've got a game to go to tonight....xnodx

[Panther88]

Between Louisiana and Texas, small private schools have been producing P5 products like rabbits produce kittens for decades.

They will need "goggle" for Evangel Christian, St Pius, et al. :)

[bluedog]

https://youtu.be/3Ag7F_aAX8Y

[BEAR]

I thought TC would be tougher than this...

Hornets starting to pull away...35-19 now and Bryant has the ball on the TC 31

That was sarcasm by the way....TC is HUGE!

[BEAR]

Bryant 44
TC 40

[Daytripper]

Be careful blue. Those who follow tx hs football know the truth how stories like Art Briles and Todd Dodge made their ascension and jumps to college football HC'ing positions from hs. A few must use "goggle" because they are highly unfamiliar w/ those names. xlolx

Actually, Briles didn't become HC at UH straight from Stephenville. He has a short stop as RB coach at Texas Tech.

As for Deion Sanders as a HC in FCS, I think the biggest problem is that he has a HUGE ego and he will make everything about him.

[Panther88]

Indeed about Briles @ txtech for 2 yrs. Ditto for Dodge as well.

Unsure where neon's understanding & loyalty resides. If he's in it for $$$ vs loyalty and purpose, his ultimate goal may include bcs flst et al plantation institutions of alleged higher learning.

[bluedog]

Some of the top college coaches never even played the game, yet alone had any experience at coaching on the college level.

[bluedog]

This guy is doing pretty good for us without any college experience. I could be wrong but he may have not had any coaching experience.


https://youtu.be/_vz1U2kTOoc

[Daytripper]

Some of the top college coaches never even played the game, yet alone had any experience at coaching

True, but they tend to be the exception.

[bluedog]

True, but they tend to be the exception.Not really, they aren't the norm but they are far from the exception.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CFU5yYGBNSp/?igshid=8upzy4wukh39
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200920/98afe670e58bf53e2f7def227e700b67.jpg

[bluedog]

TMZ on the scene of the crimehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200920/bb4950082cf8abba7161bc34e5130eda.jpg

[bluedog]

Itinerary courtesy of WLBT and WJTV
You can watch the press conference on JSUTv on facebookhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200920/7c1af5f92bf67b4c7fa485f74923b8bf.jpg

[WeAreThePride]

What on Earth is going on in this thread...

[VandalBasher]

I personally love this hire! Neon is going to bring in recruits and donors. This hire will establish the school for years. My guess is that FBS schools will be trying to schedule JSU simply for the name recognition. I wish Coach Sanders the best of luck.

[bluedog]

Congratulations JSU, wishing nothing but the best.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200921/03c050e0586f75a5a1978b3bac106cdc.jpg

[bluedog]

Deion Sanders announces he'll be Jackson State's next head football coach

12:54 AM CT

ESPN

Deion Sanders will be the next head football coach at Jackson State, he announced Sunday on his new podcast.

"God called me to Jackson State," Sanders said on the first episode of "21st & Prime," according to a transcription by the Clarion Ledger.

Deion Sanders announces he'll coach Jackson St. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29934894/deion-sanders-announces-jackson-state-next-head-football-coach
via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

[Panther88]

Congratulations JSU, wishing nothing but the best.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200921/03c050e0586f75a5a1978b3bac106cdc.jpg

+1. The recruiting game will now be intensified, considering the social upheaval in america. I would love to be a college recruiter for PV right now.

[bluedog]

https://youtu.be/Rjain3MVnGA

[Professor]

Congrats to Deion. Can't wait to see how this plays out

[Derby City Duke]

Congratulations. Will be interesting to see how long this marriage works out and how beneficial it is for both parties - short and long term.

Good luck to JSU.

[Anthony215]

Congrats to Deion will be interesting to see how he assembles his staff. Could be a great opportunity for some former NFL players looking to get into coaching to take GA jobs with JSU and even for his coordinating positions he should find great candidates with pro experience to help woo recruits.

[Mocs123]

Interesting hire for sure. I think this will end up really good or really bad for on the field results, though at the least he should recruit well and the school should get a lot of publicity.

Should I ask why any school is replacing a coach in what should be mid season? It just seems like odd timing.

[DFW HOYA]

Tapping the brakes here on JSU's march to the Celebration Bowl.

Eighty percent of being a head coach takes place off the football field and this is Sanders' biggest challenge. Put aside the change from living in a $21 million estate in Frisco to a house in Jackson, or him sitting in a classroom to take a course on NCAA compliance, he's running every facet of a team, from chasing down kids that aren't going to class to getting in a car (post-virus) to meet some recruit in Vicksburg or Meridian or Hattiesburg and get back home to start the next day all over again. He's got to shake hands with alumni, show up at the local radio station to do interviews, fundraise, and draw up a game plan for 80 or 90 kids he's never seen in person. Even more important, he's got a learning curve with every single high school coach in Mississippi to whom JSU recruits, and win them over; and when someone asks "what's in it for me?" (figuratively or literally), he has to understand this is the SWAC, not the SEC.

Two years older than Sanders, Patrick Ewing has been down this same road in basketball. Ewing became a first time head coach at 55 and the question was "can he coach?" Yes, he can coach (16 years as an NBA assistant helped), but recruiting is tough. As he has said, and I paraphrase, when the parents are more excited to see him, that's usually a sign he's not getting the recruit. Ewing hasn't signed a single Top 75 recruit at Georgetown. He doesn't have the local high school coaching relationships other schools have built, and as such Maryland and Villanova get the first tier of local recruits. In three seasons he's 19-35 in the Big East, 49-46 overall, and no NCAA appearances.

A recruit might be interested in playing for Prime Time, but really that kids wants be playing for the NFL, whether that's at Jackson State, Boise State or Truman State. (Remember, a 2021 recruit was born in 2003 and never saw him play professionally.) JSU has gone seven years without a divisional title, 13 without a SWAC title, and are 0-12 all time in NCAA playoff action. The alumni are hopeful but they're not going to be tolerant of on the job training for very long. He's got to hit the ground running.

[Professor]

Interesting hire for sure. I think this will end up really good or really bad for on the field results, though at the least he should recruit well and the school should get a lot of publicity.

Should I ask why any school is replacing a coach in what should be mid season? It just seems like odd timing.


no sources but it looks like his contract was up in Dec and Deion became available due to his graduation from Tallegeda

- - - Updated - - -


Tapping the brakes here on JSU's march to the Celebration Bowl.

Eighty percent of being a head coach takes place off the football field and this is Sanders' biggest challenge. Put aside the change from living in a $21 million estate in Frisco to a house in Jackson, or him sitting in a classroom to take a course on NCAA compliance, he's running every facet of a team, from chasing down kids that aren't going to class to getting in a car (post-virus) to meet some recruit in Vicksburg or Meridian or Hattiesburg and get back home to start the next day all over again. He's got to shake hands with alumni, show up at the local radio station to do interviews, fundraise, and draw up a game plan for 80 or 90 kids he's never seen in person. Even more important, he's got a learning curve with every single high school coach in Mississippi to whom JSU recruits, and win them over; and when someone asks "what's in it for me?" (figuratively or literally), he has to understand this is the SWAC, not the SEC.

Two years older than Sanders, Patrick Ewing has been down this same road in basketball. Ewing became a first time head coach at 55 and the question was "can he coach?" Yes, he can coach (16 years as an NBA assistant helped), but recruiting is tough. As he has said, and I paraphrase, when the parents are more excited to see him, that's usually a sign he's not getting the recruit. Ewing hasn't signed a single Top 75 recruit at Georgetown. He doesn't have the local high school coaching relationships other schools have built, and as such Maryland and Villanova get the first tier of local recruits. In three seasons he's 19-35 in the Big East, 49-46 overall, and no NCAA appearances.

A recruit might be interested in playing for Prime Time, but really that kids wants be playing for the NFL, whether that's at Jackson State, Boise State or Truman State. (Remember, a 2021 recruit was born in 2003 and never saw him play professionally.) JSU has gone seven years without a divisional title, 13 without a SWAC title, and are 0-12 all time in NCAA playoff action. The alumni are hopeful but they're not going to be tolerant of on the job training for very long. He's got to hit the ground running.

Great Post

[Panther88]

Tapping the brakes here on JSU's march to the Celebration Bowl.

Eighty percent of being a head coach takes place off the football field and this is Sanders' biggest challenge. Put aside the change from living in a $21 million estate in Frisco to a house in Jackson, or him sitting in a classroom to take a course on NCAA compliance, he's running every facet of a team, from chasing down kids that aren't going to class to getting in a car (post-virus) to meet some recruit in Vicksburg or Meridian or Hattiesburg and get back home to start the next day all over again. He's got to shake hands with alumni, show up at the local radio station to do interviews, fundraise, and draw up a game plan for 80 or 90 kids he's never seen in person. Even more important, he's got a learning curve with every single high school coach in Mississippi to whom JSU recruits, and win them over; and when someone asks "what's in it for me?" (figuratively or literally), he has to understand this is the SWAC, not the SEC.

Two years older than Sanders, Patrick Ewing has been down this same road in basketball. Ewing became a first time head coach at 55 and the question was "can he coach?" Yes, he can coach (16 years as an NBA assistant helped), but recruiting is tough. As he has said, and I paraphrase, when the parents are more excited to see him, that's usually a sign he's not getting the recruit. Ewing hasn't signed a single Top 75 recruit at Georgetown. He doesn't have the local high school coaching relationships other schools have built, and as such Maryland and Villanova get the first tier of local recruits. In three seasons he's 19-35 in the Big East, 49-46 overall, and no NCAA appearances.

A recruit might be interested in playing for Prime Time, but really that kids wants be playing for the NFL, whether that's at Jackson State, Boise State or Truman State. (Remember, a 2021 recruit was born in 2003 and never saw him play professionally.) JSU has gone seven years without a divisional title, 13 without a SWAC title, and are 0-12 all time in NCAA playoff action. The alumni are hopeful but they're not going to be tolerant of on the job training for very long. He's got to hit the ground running.

Move your foot to the gas pedal. He’s about to do what the HC before him did and the one before him and the one before him... This is new territory to all who were never HCs before so I do believe he will adapt and do well, like too many others have done as well.

The ONLY questions I have are his loyalty and commitment to JSU and growing our conference, since he is a TU graduate, and where is his heart. (bcs game? bcs notoriety? $$$$$?)

[bluedog]

Interesting hire for sure. I think this will end up really good or really bad for on the field results, though at the least he should recruit well and the school should get a lot of publicity.

Should I ask why any school is replacing a coach in what should be mid season? It just seems like odd timing.Yeah I'm still looking to purchase that book "The proper time to fire a coach." It always seems to be sold out

[ASU33]

Move your foot to the gas pedal. He’s about to do what the HC before him did and the one before him and the one before him... This is new territory to all who were never HCs before so I do believe he will adapt and do well, like too many others have done as well.

The ONLY questions I have are his loyalty and commitment to JSU and growing our conference, since he is a TU graduate, and where is his heart. (bcs game? bcs notoriety? $$$$$?)


*TC Graduate

[Panther88]

*TC Graduate

I thought they migrated from C to U status? xconfusedx I knew that coach Sanders graduated talla recently as I read his poignant graduation speech. The fla-st folk should somewhat be in their feels, considering he is a graduate of talla-college vs their institution.

Haven’t read up on talla since 2016 w/ that 2017 sellout $$$ move they made. I know the original TU folk will be in their feels like the HU vs HI/“real HU” situation if they change their known acros from TC to TU.

[Panther88]

“It” is happening, as expected.

Coach Sanders wasted little time & offered 2 defensive 5*s a full-ride to JSU Monday evening and the two young men and their families were very public w/ their responses and eager enthusiasm to consider JSU as one of their top choices.

“ :D ... xconfusedx “ that’s the look of disdain when saban’s “handlers,” his recruiters, realized their 2 coveted and prized bulls were being asked to return... to shore up and right... :D

We will see what’s what shortly as signing day early period Dec and historical Feb are evident. :)

[bluedog]

“It” is happening, as expected.

Coach Sanders wasted little time & offered 2 defensive 5*s a full-ride to JSU Monday evening and the two young men and their families were very public w/ their responses and eager enthusiasm to consider JSU as one of their top choices.

“ :D ... xconfusedx “ that’s the look of disdain when saban’s “handlers,” his recruiters, realized their 2 coveted and prized bulls were being asked to return... to shore up and right... :D

We will see what’s what shortly as signing day early period Dec and historical Feb are evident. :)Yes it is.....https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200922/8534fcdfea51a67b3e56f70f2dbe2cb3.jpg

[bluedog]

https://twitter.com/GMA/status/1308382506622889984?s=19

[Panther88]

https://twitter.com/GMA/status/1308382506622889984?s=19

It begins. :D I waited quite awhile for this to occur.

[bluedog]

It begins. :D I waited quite awhile for this to occur.The hate has already started https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200922/62e4cd61965a80e1ab60b9d4bb69b492.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200922/86c12902e93a4df7148a890cc2e6987d.jpg

[Panther88]

The hate has already started https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200922/62e4cd61965a80e1ab60b9d4bb69b492.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200922/86c12902e93a4df7148a890cc2e6987d.jpg

Par for the jealous course.

I would hate too when I know factually I am about to be out-recruited and will be considered lower than the po’ lil’ school in jackson, ms. xlolx

JSU’s (H) attendance last fall ranked at what position vs ole miss, msu, & usm? Haven’t checked yet but I’m very curious at this point.

[Professor]

Sanders has been busy on the recruiting trail in his first day. Other prospects offered include the nation's No. 1 JUCO cornerback De'Jahn Warren, who is committed to Georgia, JUCO defensive end and West Virginia commit Nijel Mcgriff (https://247sports.com/Player/Nijel-Mcgriff-46100382), the country's No. 2 JUCO linebacker and Mississippi State verbal Navonteque Strong (https://247sports.com/Player/Navonteque-Strong-46099236), JUCO edge rusher Jammie White, JUCO defensive tackle Lemarcus Faulkner, JUCO defensive tackle Rasheed Lyles (https://247sports.com/Player/Rasheed-Lyles-46056424), JUCO defensive tackle Hydee Barlow, 2021 defensive back Andreas Keaton (https://247sports.com/Player/Andreas-Keaton-46103457) and Lone Star State linebacker Dontay Sowells (https://247sports.com/Player/Dontay-Sowells-46103291).

[Panther88]

Sanders has been busy on the recruiting trail in his first day. Other prospects offered include the nation's No. 1 JUCO cornerback De'Jahn Warren, who is committed to Georgia, JUCO defensive end and West Virginia commit Nijel Mcgriff (https://247sports.com/Player/Nijel-Mcgriff-46100382), the country's No. 2 JUCO linebacker and Mississippi State verbal Navonteque Strong (https://247sports.com/Player/Navonteque-Strong-46099236), JUCO edge rusher Jammie White, JUCO defensive tackle Lemarcus Faulkner, JUCO defensive tackle Rasheed Lyles (https://247sports.com/Player/Rasheed-Lyles-46056424), JUCO defensive tackle Hydee Barlow, 2021 defensive back Andreas Keaton (https://247sports.com/Player/Andreas-Keaton-46103457) and Lone Star State linebacker Dontay Sowells (https://247sports.com/Player/Dontay-Sowells-46103291).

@blue look.

all the business lololol xlolx

[bluedog]

@blue look.

all the business lololol xlolxYep!

[Mocs123]

Yeah I'm still looking to purchase that book "The proper time to fire a coach." It always seems to be sold out

While perhaps there is never a good time to fire a coach, coaching changes usually happen right after the regular season. It's just very unusual to see a coaching change this late in a year (or this early in the year depending on how you look at it).

[Mocs123]

Tapping the brakes here on JSU's march to the Celebration Bowl.

Eighty percent of being a head coach takes place off the football field and this is Sanders' biggest challenge. Put aside the change from living in a $21 million estate in Frisco to a house in Jackson, or him sitting in a classroom to take a course on NCAA compliance, he's running every facet of a team, from chasing down kids that aren't going to class to getting in a car (post-virus) to meet some recruit in Vicksburg or Meridian or Hattiesburg and get back home to start the next day all over again. He's got to shake hands with alumni, show up at the local radio station to do interviews, fundraise, and draw up a game plan for 80 or 90 kids he's never seen in person. Even more important, he's got a learning curve with every single high school coach in Mississippi to whom JSU recruits, and win them over; and when someone asks "what's in it for me?" (figuratively or literally), he has to understand this is the SWAC, not the SEC.

Two years older than Sanders, Patrick Ewing has been down this same road in basketball. Ewing became a first time head coach at 55 and the question was "can he coach?" Yes, he can coach (16 years as an NBA assistant helped), but recruiting is tough. As he has said, and I paraphrase, when the parents are more excited to see him, that's usually a sign he's not getting the recruit. Ewing hasn't signed a single Top 75 recruit at Georgetown. He doesn't have the local high school coaching relationships other schools have built, and as such Maryland and Villanova get the first tier of local recruits. In three seasons he's 19-35 in the Big East, 49-46 overall, and no NCAA appearances.

A recruit might be interested in playing for Prime Time, but really that kids wants be playing for the NFL, whether that's at Jackson State, Boise State or Truman State. (Remember, a 2021 recruit was born in 2003 and never saw him play professionally.) JSU has gone seven years without a divisional title, 13 without a SWAC title, and are 0-12 all time in NCAA playoff action. The alumni are hopeful but they're not going to be tolerant of on the job training for very long. He's got to hit the ground running.

I think recruits will still find him relevant, and I have no doubt he will recruit well. I do have doubts that he will want to do all the little things that an FCS HC has to do - It's not always the most glamorous job, especially since for many it's a good living, but for PrimeTime - he could make more with a much cushier TV gig.

[Professor]

@blue look.

all the business lololol xlolx

It's on a recuiting site. But ok

https://247sports.com/Article/Deion-Sanders-coach-Jackson-State-offers-scholarship-5-star-recruit-Maason-Smith-151793364/

[bluedog]

While perhaps there is never a good time to fire a coach, coaching changes usually happen right after the regular season. It's just very unusual to see a coaching change this late in a year (or this early in the year depending on how you look at it).If you say so

[Panther88]

It's on a recuiting site. But ok

https://247sports.com/Article/Deion-Sanders-coach-Jackson-State-offers-scholarship-5-star-recruit-Maason-Smith-151793364/

Really? I wasn’t aware.

xthumbsupx @blue lol

[bluedog]

Really? I wasn’t aware.

xthumbsupx @blue lolOh yeah I'm aware of him. It's all over the local news here.

[bluedog]

@Panther88


https://twitter.com/DeionSanders/status/1308435361186619393?s=19

[Panther88]

@Panther88


https://twitter.com/DeionSanders/status/1308435361186619393?s=19

Yeh, saw that.

[ASU33]

The hate has already started https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200922/62e4cd61965a80e1ab60b9d4bb69b492.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200922/86c12902e93a4df7148a890cc2e6987d.jpg



People kill me with this nonsense. These FBS coaches show up with people meeting them at the private air strip with signs, cowbells and the whole nine but I guess we should not have any type of fan fare?

[bluedog]

People kill me with this nonsense. These FBS coaches show up with people meeting them at the private air strip with signs, cowbells and the whole nine but I guess we should not have any type of fan fare?You know its always ok for them. Oh and don't forget strippers.

[Panther88]

You know its always ok for them. Oh and don't forget strippers.

Fact of truth. xreadx

[FUBeAR]

This stuff is BS.

Do it BIG! Shoulda done it even BIGGER!

Going to be fun to have Deion in FCS while he’s here.

I’m sure there are others, but he should probably check-in with Mike Minter @ Campbell about how he transitioned from NFL glitz / glamor to FCS Football. He had a couple of years of college experience (JC Smith (D2) & Liberty) until he took the Campbell HC gig, but FUBeAR’s impression is that Coach Minter has really put in THE WORK to build something in Buies Creek.

Anyway - PrimeTime has always had his haters...can’t expect them to disappear & not opine on this announcement. He’s always proved ‘em wrong. No need to change that streak with this gig.

[Bisonoline]

I liked his remarks. Now we will see if he can coach and put in to place a system with the personnel to carry through on his words. I wish him and JSU well as they move forward!

[POD Knows]

This stuff is BS.

Do it BIG! Shoulda done it even BIGGER!

Going to be fun to have Deion in FCS while he’s here.

I’m sure there are others, but he should probably check-in with Mike Minter @ Campbell about how he transitioned from NFL glitz / glamor to FCS Football. He had a couple of years of college experience (JC Smith (D2) & Liberty) until he took the Campbell HC gig, but FUBeAR’s impression is that Coach Minter has really put in THE WORK to build something in Buies Creek.

Anyway - PrimeTime has always had his haters...can’t expect them to disappear & not opine on this announcement. He’s always proved ‘em wrong. No need to change that streak with this gig.I am telling ya, repelling in from a helicopter, freaking Tigers on the field, tons of people, halograms of great plays he made as a player, got to go over the top with this stuff, this is a big profile deal for JSU, what they did was way understated, he could have hang glided in, or lead a tiger on on a lease or something. Feeding him raw pieces of meat on the way, maybe have the tiger tear up dummies dressed up like conference foes, who knows.

[bluedog]

https://twitter.com/JoeCookSports/status/1308572075666399234?s=19
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200923/32b52c53d2f386310e5d07ef827b8b12.jpg

[Panther88]

https://twitter.com/JoeCookSports/status/1308572075666399234?s=19
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200923/32b52c53d2f386310e5d07ef827b8b12.jpg

Coach Prime is wasting no time. There will be a LOT more flipping occurring soonest. Cannot wait for the flips to hit tejas. :D

[Professor Chaos]

Curious what others reaction to this is:

https://twitter.com/DeionSanders/status/1417670067953745923

The only press conferences I watch regularly are NDSU ones and the press regularly calls the head coach by his first name but it doesn't take much effort from reporter guy to refer to him as "coach". Kind of seems to me like both guys are being childish here. I wonder if there's some kind of history between these two???

[ASU33]

Curious what others reaction to this is:

https://twitter.com/DeionSanders/status/1417670067953745923

The only press conferences I watch regularly are NDSU ones and the press regularly calls the head coach by his first name but it doesn't take much effort from reporter guy to refer to him as "coach". Kind of seems to me like both guys are being childish here. I wonder if there's some kind of history between these two???

Yeah there's some history here! This wasn't Coach Sanders first time expressing this to this reporter.

[ccd494]

Seems like a deliberate effort to create a story to distract from the fact that JSU banned a Clarion Ledger reporter from reporting on JSU because that reporter reported on an incoming recruit’s domestic violence arrest.

[TheKingpin28]

Being a public university, can they legally ban the press from press conferences? Would that not violate the 1st Amendment that prevents the government from silencing voices they do not "approve" of? Since they take public tax dollars, this should be an open and shut case, no?

As PC pointed out, media reporters refer to NDSU coach as Matt. Informally, you will hear people say "coach" to him, but during media requests, I have heard them say Matt multiple times with no problem.

[kdinva]

Being a public university, can they legally ban the {Some} press from press conferences? Would that not violate the 1st Amendment that prevents the government from silencing voices they do not "approve" of? Since they take public tax dollars,......

See the Mayor of Chicago.....

[TheKingpin28]

See the Mayor of Chicago.....

Well, it's Chicago, and she is a nut case, but that's for a different board.

[Bisonator]

WTF? He got pissed because the guy called him Deion? I've heard Coach Saban called Nick a lot of times, in fact most of the time.

[VandalBasher]

Seems like a deliberate effort to create a story to distract from the fact that JSU banned a Clarion Ledger reporter from reporting on JSU because that reporter reported on an incoming recruit’s domestic violence arrest.

The reason for the hissy-fit can be debated. I do agree it was deliberate and planned. This is done in Hollywood and Washington D.C. all of the time. In an information-saturated environment, this was spark. And, it got us all talking. Who are those other schools?

[ASU33]

This has really blown up and it honestly shouldn't have. Deion asked the gentleman to please not call him by his first name and the guy did it anyway. The same guy who was asked nicely to refer to Deion Sanders as coach previously. Just respect people's wishes and you have no problem.

[OhioHen]

This has really blown up and it honestly shouldn't have. Deion asked the gentleman to please not call him by his first name and the guy did it anyway. The same guy who was asked nicely to refer to Deion Sanders as coach previously. Just respect people's wishes and you have no problem.

Very true, so long as ALL of the reporters are requested to do the same. If this individual has been singled out as not being allowed to refer to him by his first name, there is an issue with how it was handled by Coach Sanders. If nobody is allowed to call him by his first name in the press conference, the only issue is the individual reporter failing to respect his wishes.

[DFW HOYA]

This reads like a personal issue between Coach Sanders and the reporter. Plenty of coaches are addressed by their first name without going into overdrive.

[TheKingpin28]

This has really blown up and it honestly shouldn't have. Deion asked the gentleman to please not call him by his first name and the guy did it anyway. The same guy who was asked nicely to refer to Deion Sanders as coach previously. Just respect people's wishes and you have no problem.

In that case, asking honestly and not trying to start something, but if the reporter asked to be called "Reporter Last Name", should Primetime have to oblige by those rules? I personally would say yes.

[ASU33]

In that case, asking honestly and not trying to start something, but if the reporter asked to be called "Reporter Last Name", should Primetime have to oblige by those rules? I personally would say yes.


I would agree with you! Call people what they ask you to call them.

[POD Knows]

I would agree with you! Call people what they ask you to call them.Ok, I want to be called Jesus on every post that is directed to me, we good, don't offend me, I am Jesus.

[caribbeanhen]

When do the games start again?

[POD Knows]

Did Deion Sanders ever actually make a tackle in the NFL, he was a great coverage guy and return guy but might have been the biggest pussy to ever wear a uniform in the NFL, next to Paul Krause of the Vikings, who was the biggest pussy of all time.

[ccd494]

I would agree with you! Call people what they ask you to call them.

So just so I am clear, am I correct saying “Deion Sanders is a thin skinned crybaby” or do I need to say “Coach Deion Sanders is a thin skinned crybaby”? Would the answer change depending on whether I was employed by the Clarion Ledger?

[Panther88]

This reads like a personal issue between Coach Sanders and the reporter. Plenty of coaches are addressed by their first name without going into overdrive.

How hard is it to understand that relationships matter? That reporter isn't "relationship-close" to coach Prime nor does he most have any semblance of a decent relationship with him; hence why coach Prime DIRECTLY requested "don't address me as Deion; you can call me coach Prime." Smarty pants responded with "Deion." So, coach Prime did what most of us would do: laugh at the stupidity and remove ourself physically from the ignorant presence. :D

I have an earned nickname and I do NOT allow any stranger to ever call me by that name but those I know and am comfortable with, they are more than welcome to call me that earned nickname; otherwise, stranger, call me by my first name.

It's sad when strangers try to play one "relationship-close" to the hilt when in actuality they are nothing but unimportant fodder which happens in our environment(s). It's a cultural thing; most cannot pretend to understand. xreadx

[Professor Chaos]

How hard is it to understand that relationships matter? That reporter isn't "relationship-close" to coach Prime nor does he most have any semblance of a decent relationship with him; hence why coach Prime DIRECTLY requested "don't address me as Deion; you can call me coach Prime." Smarty pants responded with "Deion." So, coach Prime did what most of us would do: laugh at the stupidity and remove ourself physically from the ignorant presence. :D

I have an earned nickname and I do NOT allow any stranger to ever call me by that name but those I know and am comfortable with, they are more than welcome to call me that earned nickname; otherwise, stranger, call me by my first name.

It's sad when strangers try to play one "relationship-close" to the hilt when in actuality they are nothing but unimportant fodder which happens in our environment(s). It's a cultural thing; most cannot pretend to understand. xreadx
You're right, I don't understand. Prime is a nickname whereas Deion is his first name. Using your analogy I would expect him to be less receptive to someone calling him Prime than calling him Deion. Still, it was a pretty reasonable request to the the reporter that the reporter responded to with childishness and Coach Prime reciprocated with more childishness with his Saban comparison. They both look bad IMO.

[Cocky]

Does Deion coach the reporter? Why would he call him coach? Mr Sanders or Deion would be more reasonable.

Personally I have enough self confidence you can call me anything and I could careless.

[JSUSoutherner]

Sounds to me like Deion is being insecure that people are taking him seriously as a coach.

It literally shouldn't make a difference.

Excuse me... Coach Prime.

[OhioHen]

How hard is it to understand that relationships matter? That reporter isn't "relationship-close" to coach Prime nor does he most have any semblance of a decent relationship with him; hence why coach Prime DIRECTLY requested "don't address me as Deion; you can call me coach Prime." ...

I have an earned nickname and I do NOT allow any stranger to ever call me by that name but those I know and am comfortable with, they are more than welcome to call me that earned nickname; otherwise, stranger, call me by my first name.


Agreed, as long as there is consistency in the stance. You choose who gets to call you what. Coach Sanders gets to choose who gets to call him what, but as a public figure he can't tell ONE reporter to address him a certain way if he allows all the others to address him differently. If he asks all of them to call him "Coach Prime" until otherwise instructed, he is certainly right to do so.

As an aside, since his nickname is Prime Time, shouldn't the correct way to address him be "Coach Time" since that's his "last" name?

[Panther88]

You're right, I don't understand. Prime is a nickname whereas Deion is his first name. Using your analogy I would expect him to be less receptive to someone calling him Prime than calling him Deion. Still, it was a pretty reasonable request to the the reporter that the reporter responded to with childishness and Coach Prime reciprocated with more childishness with his Saban comparison. They both look bad IMO.

Nah, that is false. Both look bad? Nerp. Only ONE looked bad and is now receiving the (negative) notoriety he sought.

Coach Prime responded to ignorance by laughing at him to his face and moving his feet to steer clear of the stupidity w/out uttering a single word. The clueless reporter was left a-lone to look as dumbly stupid as he is. :D

Case in point, I initially met coach Sanders via a mutual friend when he played for the nfl team situated about north texas. When I initially met him, and too many others from that b-2-b superbowl era, I greeted him and others with a handshake, hug, and addressed him with "Mr Sanders, I am Mr such-and-such but -> you <- can call me blah." Ditto for a few nba/then local current college bballers in that region as well who were invited to attend and participate in my then programs.

If I were to meet you specifically, I would instantly be very guarded and would never shake your hand under any circumstance, ever. :D if someone were introducing us, they would know for you to call me by my first name only, as that is all you will ever know of me as I maintain the "relationship" distance far away from each other.

It's unimagineable how some humans have a hard time accepting the fact that relationships w/ familiarity and sincerity matter. I'm fairly certain there are specific people in his life who are allowed to call him Deion. xlolx

[Panther88]

Agreed, as long as there is consistency in the stance. You choose who gets to call you what. Coach Sanders gets to choose who gets to call him what, but as a public figure he can't tell ONE reporter to address him a certain way if he allows all the others to address him differently. If he asks all of them to call him "Coach Prime" until otherwise instructed, he is certainly right to do so.

As an aside, since his nickname is Prime Time, shouldn't the correct way to address him be "Coach Time" since that's his "last" name?

You are looking for consistency, good for you. Keep searching for it.

Why don't you personally ask him about it so all doubt is removed? xconfusedx xreadx

[TheKingpin28]

I would agree with you! Call people what they ask you to call them.

Alright. As I mentioned, wasn't trying to start anything, I was just looking for an answer and I appreciate it.

I just think it is pettiness on both sides/parties. Egos, for both parties, need to be stroked and the fact that it has become a thing is pathetic IMO.

[caribbeanhen]

Alright. As I mentioned, wasn't trying to start anything, I was just looking for an answer and I appreciate it.

I just think it is pettiness on both sides/parties. Egos, for both parties, need to be stroked and the fact that it has become a thing is pathetic IMO.

you nailed it

Ego

[OhioHen]

Why don't you personally ask him about it so all doubt is removed? xconfusedx xreadx

Should I have the opportunity to meet Mr. Sanders in person (that would be the appropriate way for me to address him as we have not met and I don't meet the familiarity test to call him anything else until so instructed by him), I will be sure to ask that question. Based on the persona he portrays publicly, Mr. Sanders will likely be amused.

[Bisonoline]

Nah, that is false. Both look bad? Nerp. Only ONE looked bad and is now receiving the (negative) notoriety he sought.

Coach Prime responded to ignorance by laughing at him to his face and moving his feet to steer clear of the stupidity w/out uttering a single word. The clueless reporter was left a-lone to look as dumbly stupid as he is. :D

Case in point, I initially met coach Sanders via a mutual friend when he played for the nfl team situated about north texas. When I initially met him, and too many others from that b-2-b superbowl era, I greeted him and others with a handshake, hug, and addressed him with "Mr Sanders, I am Mr such-and-such but -> you <- can call me blah." Ditto for a few nba/then local current college bballers in that region as well who were invited to attend and participate in my then programs.

If I were to meet you specifically, I would instantly be very guarded and would never shake your hand under any circumstance, ever. :D if someone were introducing us, they would know for you to call me by my first name only, as that is all you will ever know of me as I maintain the "relationship" distance far away from each other.

It's unimagineable how some humans have a hard time accepting the fact that relationships w/ familiarity and sincerity matter. I'm fairly certain there are specific people in his life who are allowed to call him Deion. xlolx

Well you hit on your worn out trope of you being an ass again when it comes to human interaction.xrotatehx

Fact is Dion is all about Dion. Nothing more needs to be said.

[OhioHen]

Fact is Dion is all about Dion. Nothing more needs to be said.

Why would you say that about the frontman for the Belmonts?

[Bisonoline]

Why would you say that about the frontman for the Belmonts?

His history? :D