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ursus arctos horribilis
July 22nd, 2020, 03:39 PM
If ou are already a registered voter then you do not need to, nor should you, sign up for the 2020 AGS Poll. You are already included.

If you were a voter in 2018 and had to duck out last season then please just respond in this thread and I will add you back in.

If you have not voted in the past couple of years or ever and you would like to join in the fun with us then you will need to click the link below and follow the very simple instructions. You give your username and the email and if you meet the criteria I will contact you and add you to our strong voter list for the upcoming season.

You need to have been here for a year.

You need to have 100 posts.

Or you need to sign up and I will contact you to see if you will be close enough by the beginning of the season to let you in the group. Very few that want to join are left out so sign up if you feel like it is something you want to do.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdMdmaMTMqMvYad3AtnvXz5F9wVoBSfBUux0Ab9pEO2 jmC1cA/viewform (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...mC1cA/viewform)

ursus arctos horribilis
July 22nd, 2020, 03:40 PM
We don't need to have any discussions about whether we will have a season or a need to vote. If we don't then we'll shut it down at that point but for now we move forward as if it is a going concern.

ursus arctos horribilis
July 22nd, 2020, 04:13 PM
By the way the preseason poll will open up for voters on Jul 27, 2020 and it will close on Aug 3, 2020 barring announcements on season from NCAA.

Daytripper
July 22nd, 2020, 04:17 PM
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The Yo Show
July 22nd, 2020, 09:58 PM
Thanks Ursus xthumbsupx

Preferred Walk-On
July 22nd, 2020, 10:10 PM
If we participate in the preseason poll and then the season is canceled/postponed, is that considered “Poll Perfection” for this year? [emoji848][emoji6]


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Derby City Duke
July 22nd, 2020, 10:16 PM
Thank you ursus. Looking forward to it!

NDSU1980
July 24th, 2020, 08:37 PM
Bumping up for the newbies. Thanks Ursus

ursus arctos horribilis
July 24th, 2020, 10:07 PM
If we participate in the preseason poll and then the season is canceled/postponed, is that considered “Poll Perfection” for this year? [emoji848][emoji6]


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If this season does not complete and a voter votes in every available vote then hell yes, they were perfect. If a person skips the preseason vote this year though then they are out for perfection. I will not take anything away from anyone this year though no matter what. Too f'd up a year to expect that anyone should regress this season. You can only advance.

ursus arctos horribilis
July 24th, 2020, 10:09 PM
Bumping up for the newbies. Thanks Ursus

Thank you good sir. BTW, I still have to complete some work on last season it appears. xlolx

Derby City Duke
July 28th, 2020, 09:29 AM
Ursus,

Is there a central clearinghouse list of schools who are NOT eligible for the preseason poll?

With all the changes I’ve sorta lost the bubble on them. Thank you.

OhioHen
July 28th, 2020, 09:56 AM
There isn't a list of ineligible, but there IS a list of all teams with games currently scheduled (and how many each team has) in this thread.

https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?253236-2020-Season-Poll

Derby City Duke
July 28th, 2020, 10:07 AM
There isn't a list of ineligible, but there IS a list of all teams with games currently scheduled (and how many each team has) in this thread.

https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?253236-2020-Season-Poll

Thanks.

Daytripper
July 28th, 2020, 10:58 AM
So, if a team isn't playing enough games this season to make them eligible for the playoffs, then they should not be in the poll?

OhioHen
July 28th, 2020, 11:18 AM
So, if a team isn't playing enough games this season to make them eligible for the playoffs, then they should not be in the poll?

If you already ignored teams that don't participate in the playoffs (SWAC, Ivy) the answer would probably be a "Yes."

All fall sports other than football have been given a reduction in the number of required games to be eligible for post-season play, so we don't yet know what the playoff eligibility threshold will be (IF there is indeed a playoffs to be eligible for).

ursus arctos horribilis
July 28th, 2020, 01:51 PM
So, if a team isn't playing enough games this season to make them eligible for the playoffs, then they should not be in the poll?

The playoffs should not have anything to do with the AGS Poll as far as putting together your ballot.

As far as the teams that are playing though I think I'm just going to try to assess who is worthy or a slot in the ballot and at some points there isn't gonna be enough to place them in or maybe keep them in. It is gonna be a tough situation on a lot of these teams. Also, I give a playoff a very small chance of happening anyway so that is another reason it should not go into who we are ranking in my head.

OhioHen
July 29th, 2020, 07:46 AM
As far as the teams that are playing though I think I'm just going to try to assess who is worthy or a slot in the ballot and at some points there isn't gonna be enough to place them in or maybe keep them in. It is gonna be a tough situation on a lot of these teams.

A good example of this is Elon, who as of yesterday has 4 games scheduled.

Week 1 - The Citadel - we'll have information to rank or not rank the Phoenix.
Week 2 - Duke - we'll have some real data.
Week 3 - Campbell - possibly able to confirm or refute any bias we have developed.
Week 4 - no game so they probably stay at about the same level.
Weeks 5-9 - no games so there's no current information to assess, allowing what may have been a ranked team to drop out of the poll.
Week 10 - JMU - how would you treat an unranked team that beats the Dukes (hypothetically)?

The Cats
July 29th, 2020, 03:24 PM
If ou are already a registered voter then you do not need to, nor should you, sign up for the 2020 AGS Poll. You are already included.

If you were a voter in 2018 and had to duck out last season then please just respond in this thread and I will add you back in.

If you have not voted in the past couple of years or ever and you would like to join in the fun with us then you will need to click the link below and follow the very simple instructions. You give your username and the email and if you meet the criteria I will contact you and add you to our strong voter list for the upcoming season.

You need to have been here for a year.

You need to have 100 posts.

Or you need to sign up and I will contact you to see if you will be close enough by the beginning of the season to let you in the group. Very few that want to join are left out so sign up if you feel like it is something you want to do.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdMdmaMTMqMvYad3AtnvXz5F9wVoBSfBUux0Ab9pEO2 jmC1cA/viewform (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...mC1cA/viewform)


Is registration closed? It would not let me register.

ursus arctos horribilis
July 29th, 2020, 04:03 PM
A good example of this is Elon, who as of yesterday has 4 games scheduled.

Week 1 - The Citadel - we'll have information to rank or not rank the Phoenix.
Week 2 - Duke - we'll have some real data.
Week 3 - Campbell - possibly able to confirm or refute any bias we have developed.
Week 4 - no game so they probably stay at about the same level.
Weeks 5-9 - no games so there's no current information to assess, allowing what may have been a ranked team to drop out of the poll.
Week 10 - JMU - how would you treat an unranked team that beats the Dukes (hypothetically)?

Well for me I guess that one is a tough one as all will be but I'd be inclined to move them down if others are playing and doing good but I would doubt there is enough data out there that would eliminate them over that span IF they have had an impressive start. So they would still be in I'd bet and even if low they then go and beat JMU which is assumed to be highly ranked they recover all of the lost spots and then some I would think.

ursus arctos horribilis
July 29th, 2020, 04:04 PM
Is registration closed? It would not let me register.

There is definitely something wrong there. Let me go check what has happened and get back to you.

ursus arctos horribilis
July 29th, 2020, 04:07 PM
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ursus arctos horribilis
July 29th, 2020, 04:08 PM
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That is really weird. If I past the link inside the original quoted post it takes you to an error page. If I just post the link it works. Try that link out TC.

OhioHen
July 29th, 2020, 04:18 PM
For those who may not have seen this in the AGS Poll board and haven't voted yet, here is a listing of how many games each team has on their schedule. It is updated through yesterday's scheduling news.



Teams

Games



Abilene Christian

11



Austin Peay

11



Bryant

8



Butler

8



Cal Poly

9



Campbell

8



Central Arkansas

11



Central Connecticut State

9



Charleston Southern

8



Chattanooga

11



Davidson

8



Dayton

8



Drake

8



Duquesne

11



East Tennessee State

10



Eastern Illinois

11



Eastern Kentucky

11



Eastern Washington

11



Elon

4



Furman

11



Gardner-Webb

8



Houston Baptist

11



Idaho

9



Idaho State

11



Illinois State

10



Incarnate Word

11



Indiana State

11



Jacksonville State

11



James Madison

5



Kennesaw State

7



Lamar

11



Long Island

9



Marist

8



McNeese

11



Mercer

11



Merrimack

8



Missouri State

11



Montana

10



Montana State

10



Morehead State

8



Murray State

11



Nicholls

10



North Alabama

9



North Dakota

10



North Dakota State

8



Northern Arizona

10



Northern Colorado

11



Northern Iowa

10



Northwestern State

10



Portland State

9



Presbyterian

5



Robert Morris

9



Sacramento State

10



Sacred Heart

8



Sam Houston State

10



Samford

11



San Diego

8



South Dakota

11



South Dakota State

9



Southeast Missouri State

10



Southeastern Louisiana

11



Southern Illinois

11



Southern Utah

11



St. Francis

9



Stephen F. Austin

10



Stetson

8



Tennessee State

8



Tennessee Tech

9



Tennessee-Martin

11



The Citadel

11



UC Davis

10



Valparaiso

8



Villanova

1



Virginia Military

10



Wagner

9



Weber State

11



Western Carolina

11



Western Illinois

11



Wofford

10



Youngstown State

11

OhioHen
July 30th, 2020, 07:28 AM
Number of games schedule per team - updated to reflect NEC and ACC announcements on 7/29.



Teams

Games



Abilene Christian

11



Austin Peay

11



Butler

8



Cal Poly

9



Campbell

8



Central Arkansas

11



Charleston Southern

8



Chattanooga

11



Davidson

8



Dayton

8



Drake

8



East Tennessee State

10



Eastern Illinois

11



Eastern Kentucky

11



Eastern Washington

11



Elon

3



Furman

11



Gardner-Webb

7



Houston Baptist

11



Idaho

9



Idaho State

11



Illinois State

10



Incarnate Word

11



Indiana State

11



Jacksonville State

11



James Madison

3



Kennesaw State

7



Lamar

11



Marist

8



McNeese

11



Mercer

11



Missouri State

11



Montana

10



Montana State

9



Morehead State

8



Murray State

10



Nicholls

10



North Alabama

8



North Dakota

10



North Dakota State

8



Northern Arizona

10



Northern Colorado

11



Northern Iowa

10



Northwestern State

10



Portland State

9



Presbyterian

5



Robert Morris

3



Sacramento State

10



Sam Houston State

10



Samford

10



San Diego

8



South Dakota

11



South Dakota State

9



Southeast Missouri State

10



Southeastern Louisiana

11



Southern Illinois

11



Southern Utah

11



Stephen F. Austin

10



Stetson

8



Tennessee State

8



Tennessee Tech

9



Tennessee-Martin

11



The Citadel

10



UC Davis

10



Valparaiso

8



Villanova

1



Virginia Military

9



Weber State

11



Western Carolina

11



Western Illinois

11



Wofford

10



Youngstown State

10

OhioHen
July 30th, 2020, 05:09 PM
SEC announcement this afternoon reduces totals for 12 more teams.



Teams

Games



Abilene Christian

10



Austin Peay

11



Butler

8



Cal Poly

9



Campbell

8



Central Arkansas

10



Charleston Southern

7



Chattanooga

11



Davidson

8



Dayton

8



Drake

8



East Tennessee State

9



Eastern Illinois

10



Eastern Kentucky

11



Eastern Washington

10



Elon

3



Furman

10



Gardner-Webb

7



Houston Baptist

11



Idaho

9



Idaho State

11



Illinois State

10



Incarnate Word

11



Indiana State

11



Jacksonville State

11



James Madison

3



Kennesaw State

7



Lamar

11



Marist

8



McNeese

11



Mercer

10



Missouri State

11



Montana

10



Montana State

9



Morehead State

8



Murray State

10



Nicholls

9



North Alabama

8



North Dakota

10



North Dakota State

8



Northern Arizona

10



Northern Colorado

11



Northern Iowa

10



Northwestern State

10



Portland State

9



Presbyterian

5



Robert Morris

3



Sacramento State

10



Sam Houston State

10



Samford

10



San Diego

8



South Dakota

11



South Dakota State

9



Southeast Missouri State

9



Southeastern Louisiana

11



Southern Illinois

11



Southern Utah

11



Stephen F. Austin

10



Stetson

8



Tennessee State

8



Tennessee Tech

9



Tennessee-Martin

10



The Citadel

10



UC Davis

10



Valparaiso

8



Villanova

1



Virginia Military

9



Weber State

11



Western Carolina

11



Western Illinois

11



Wofford

9



Youngstown State

10