Who’s next

[dgtw]

So we are down to nine leagues for 2020. Who will be next to shut it down and who is waiting for one of the big boys to go first?

Big Sky
Big South
MVFC
NEC
OVC
Pioneer
Southern
Southland
SWAC

There are also four independents.

I think either the NEC or the SWAC is next.


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[aceinthehole]

Surprisingly, I think the NEC will try to salvage a shorted season. Every opponent except SFU can be a day trip, and we need the $$$ from guarantee games.

Not to mention, Connecticut an Rhode Island have some of the best numbers out there. This is an area where things are as good as we can hope for without a vaccine.

I think the league will try to hold on as long as possible and even if league play is cancelled, may allow teams to play a limited non-conf/independent schedule.

[bonarae]

My O/U on how many conferences will survive the COVID-19 scheduling bloodbath: 2 - 4.

[walliver]

A lot of things depend on how the panic plays out.

The numbers in Texas, Florida, Georgia and the Carolinas look bad now. But, based on the recent history of the disease, the current wave in these areas will have passed by September. Also, based on recent history, it is likely that the disease will form new clusters in areas that are not currently affected.

[BEAR]

So we are down to nine leagues for 2020. Who will be next to shut it down and who is waiting for one of the big boys to go first?

Big Sky
Big South
MVFC
NEC
OVC
Pioneer
Southern
Southland
SWAC

There are also four independents.

I think either the NEC or the SWAC is next.


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Why does this remind me of that elimination game we play on here annually? xlolx

[Bisonator]

A lot of things depend on how the panic plays out.

The numbers in Texas, Florida, Georgia and the Carolinas look bad now. But, based on the recent history of the disease, the current wave in these areas will have passed by September. Also, based on recent history, it is likely that the disease will form new clusters in areas that are not currently affected.
That's why I don't get the rush to shut stuff down that's months away. The situation looked bleak 2 months ago, then promising 1 month ago, now back to bleak again. It's a roller coaster...

[BeamMeUp]

Youngstown Vindicator - MVFC Still On Course
Link: https://www.vindy.com/sports/local-sports/2020/07/mvfc-still-on-course/

YSU Executive Director of Athletics Ron Strollo said he doesn’t expect a decision one way or another on the MVFC teams to be in the near future. “I think we, as a group, are very committed to having a full season right now,” Strollo said. “We’ll continue to evaluate the national landscape and the situation with the virus as these weeks pass by.” YSU is scheduled to start the season Sept. 5 at Akron before its two non-conference games, Sept. 12 vs. Duquesne and Sept. 19 vs. Eastern Kentucky. Ironically, the Penguins first three games are against opponents closer than any MVFC opponent, which would be Indiana State — six-and-a-half hours away in Terre Haute, Indiana. Despite the distance, Strollo said the MVFC is still interested in playing a full season, but knows things change daily in the world of the COVID-19 pandemic.
“I don’t think we’re going to rush to a decision,” Strollo said. “If we can play all of our games, that would be great. If we have to play conference games, that would be the next step. We’re not to the point where we’re ready to make those decisions.”

[Daytripper]

Considering Texas seems be one of the recent Covid hot spots, I'm going to guess the Southland won't be playing this fall.

[BEAR]

Considering Texas seems be one of the recent Covid hot spots, I'm going to guess the Southland won't be playing this fall.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/1Jh2UpOOdiNJgnJM75/200w.webp

[Sader87]

I highly doubt there will be any college football played at the FCS-level and below....some of the big boys may give it a try but it won't last long....same with the NFL probably.

[WileECoyote06]

My vote is for Big South and Southland. Followed by the OVC.

[VandalBasher]

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0ulKSZ09BTRFtLJc5QELTAJ4ZfcD-w9iTSVh_PKqDAE9X1upuNJyHquc0#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

https://ncov2019.live/data?fbclid=IwAR19s7y9H8w2qtslcMSTE2AG7E5CAmkW6UyI kKoGmVltMpTSuv3j0G_Nu20

Here are a couple of sites I have been monitoring since April 1st. I will let you all determine locations of "hot spots." The State of Washington just removed 39 deaths from the overall total for our state.

[BEAR]

https://americaeast.com/news/2020/7/16/fall_sports_update.aspx

UNH, Maine, SB, to name a few... while this conference isn't a football one...

[AmsterBison]

I'd say the Pioneer because they travel all over the country, but they are kind of linked to the MVFC.

[dgtw]

Surprisingly, I think the NEC will try to salvage a shorted season. Every opponent except SFU can be a day trip, and we need the $$$ from guarantee games.

Not to mention, Connecticut an Rhode Island have some of the best numbers out there. This is an area where things are as good as we can hope for without a vaccine.

I think the league will try to hold on as long as possible and even if league play is cancelled, may allow teams to play a limited non-conf/independent schedule.

My logic on them is that they are the only league left in that part of the country so have already lost a bunch of OOC games. But you are obviously closer to the situation than I am.

If the MVFC shuts down others may stay as their best chance to lift the trophy in Frisco.


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[ST_Lawson]

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0ulKSZ09BTRFtLJc5QELTAJ4ZfcD-w9iTSVh_PKqDAE9X1upuNJyHquc0#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

https://ncov2019.live/data?fbclid=IwAR19s7y9H8w2qtslcMSTE2AG7E5CAmkW6UyI kKoGmVltMpTSuv3j0G_Nu20

Here are a couple of sites I have been monitoring since April 1st. I will let you all determine locations of "hot spots." The State of Washington just removed 39 deaths from the overall total for our state.

I'm personally a fan of these:
https://covidactnow.org - Rates states on 4 categories: infection rate, positive test rate, % of ICU beds used, and % of contacts traced to give an overall "risk" view of each state
https://rt.live/ - Shows the Rt number (transmission rate...how fast the infections are growing) for each state and shows which are doing well and which aren't. Also nice that it shows significant points along the timeline...when shelter-in-place orders were started/ended, other "reopening" dates, etc.

[mvfcfan]

My guess is that OVC will be the last to cancel. The OVC didn't cancel baseball until after the NCAA officially put a fork in it. I'm just glad the two leagues (MVFC/OVC) I follow haven't cancelled yet.

[Cocky]

OVC will be last, most schools don't even know they have a football team.

[Redbird 4th & short]

I'm personally a fan of these:
https://covidactnow.org - Rates states on 4 categories: infection rate, positive test rate, % of ICU beds used, and % of contacts traced to give an overall "risk" view of each state
https://rt.live/ - Shows the Rt number (transmission rate...how fast the infections are growing) for each state and shows which are doing well and which aren't. Also nice that it shows significant points along the timeline...when shelter-in-place orders were started/ended, other "reopening" dates, etc.

Good post .. I like the first link a lot. The metrics give very good context and help to put attention where it is needed. Need to look into the R rating on 2nd one more .. I know it predicts potential for spread, but need to understand how it does this better.

[ST_Lawson]

Need to look into the R rating on 2nd one more .. I know it predicts potential for spread, but need to understand how it does this better.

For those that don't know, this is what the R rating means: https://www.healthline.com/health/r-nought-reproduction-number#meaning

They kinda explain how they're calculating it in fairly basic terms in the FAQ (https://rt.live/faq), but the calculations are all in their github site linked to from the FAQ.
Not everyone is going to be able to understand everything that's going on, but if someone has a fairly decent grasp on math and a moderate level of programming knowledge (it's written in python), they should be able to see what they're doing here: https://github.com/rtcovidlive/covid-model/blob/master/covid/models/generative.py

[KPSUL]

Looking at the state-by-state current covid-19 status, I felt the CAA was premature in cancelling. The Big Sky, Southland, Socon, SWAC and Big South all have states that are currently pandemic epicenters - they are in denial not cancelling - just a matter of time. I have no idea why the Pioneer has not pulled the plug - as someone else pointed out here, their teams are dispersed throughout the country.

[ejjones]

The MEAC suspended fall sports...days before the suspension, the league had just voted on a alternative schedule for North & South to mitigate traveling and logistics issues / exposure. The schedule would still go into effect if rolled over to spring...

6 game abbreviated conf round robin schedule that I presume North would play South for championship...

[McNeese72]

I heard the Southland Conference Presidents have a meeting scheduled today but can't vouch for the veracity of that. So, if they are, I wouldn't be surprised if we hear something today or tomorrow.

Doc

[NY Crusader 2010]

Looking at the state-by-state current covid-19 status, I felt the CAA was premature in cancelling. The Big Sky, Southland, Socon, SWAC and Big South all have states that are currently pandemic epicenters - they are in denial not cancelling - just a matter of time. I have no idea why the Pioneer has not pulled the plug - as someone else pointed out here, their teams are dispersed throughout the country.

I haven't been following the data for the entire Northeast but New York State had ZERO deaths on Saturday July 11th. ZERO. A state of 16 million people. People are debating school openings and HS sports here and IMO there's no reason schools shouldn't be open here with fall sports starting a little bit late. College athletics is a different animal because of the travel. The CAA has members in North Carolina, which is still a hot spot. There may be other states in footprint that still have potential for cases and hospitalizations to grow. IMO the biggest danger zones are the Sun Belt region, California as well as some of the parts of flyover country that haven't really been hit yet.

[CenMEBlackBearFan]

Looking at the state-by-state current covid-19 status, I felt the CAA was premature in cancelling. The Big Sky, Southland, Socon, SWAC and Big South all have states that are currently pandemic epicenters - they are in denial not cancelling - just a matter of time. I have no idea why the Pioneer has not pulled the plug - as someone else pointed out here, their teams are dispersed throughout the country.

KPSUL, I agree that the decision to cancel this season by the CAA may have been a tad early. Maine had 5 games with schools that are in states that Maine could have visited or they could have come to Maine without any self-quarantining or additional testing requirements. UConn, Monmouth, Albany, SB and you guys-NH. Maine's CDC has made it really tough for visitors from other states to visit. Bottom line it probably was inevitable to cancel but I thought we could have hung in there a bit longer just to see if other options with other schools was a possibility. Here was CAA commisioner Joe D'Antonio's interview discussing Cost and Complexity of trying to play this year. Boy do I hope we can play in the spring.
http://www.downtownwithrichkimball.c...Tp8gYBMypDwQx0 (http://www.downtownwithrichkimball.com/2020/07/14/joe-dantonio-7-14-20/?fbclid=IwAR1JtD5Law2wFM4HayPDy18onIFBfyHn3dXzzEkQ AGBucTp8gYBMypDwQx0)

[dgtw]

If you had the SWAC, you win!!!

Now onto the next round:

Big Sky
Big South
MVFC
NEC
OVC
Pioneer
Southern
Southland


There are also four independents.


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[major095]

If you had the SWAC, you win!!!

Now onto the next round:

Big Sky
Big South
MVFC
NEC
OVC
Pioneer
Southern
Southland


There are also four independents.


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umm.. not really. the swac didn't shut down. they moved to the spring semester. probably a good choice. you don't have to decide to cancel today. they can wait until jan or feb and make a final decision AND actually do right by players and keep them safe.

[WestCoastAggie]

So what is the Southland doing?

[cx500d]

https://www.morrisonhotelgallery.com/images/big/WhosNext_Web980px.jpg

[Puddin Tane]

So what is the Southland doing?

as of today, we’re playing


im gonna go with Pioneer as next

[Redbird 4th & short]

as of today, we’re playing


im gonna go with Pioneer as next
agreed .. Pioneer dropping fall football is one of the more logical decision. They have one of the worst conference travel schedules, possibly in all of college football.

[aceinthehole]

Again, this is still a fluid situation, but with NEC Virtual Media Day scheduled for this Thursday, I expect the NEC will try to play this fall. What the schedules look like is still a mystery, but I'm looking forward to watching the Northeast Conference be out front on this issue.

https://twitter.com/NECsports/status/1285549063493095424

[WestCoastAggie]

Again, this is still a fluid situation, but with NEC Virtual Media Day scheduled for this Thursday, I expect the NEC will try to play this fall. What the schedules look like is still a mystery, but I'm looking forward to watching the Northeast Conference be out front on this issue.

https://twitter.com/NECsports/status/1285549063493095424

We'll see LOL. The MEAC's was scheduled for the 27th.

[gophoenix]

So we are down to nine leagues for 2020. Who will be next to shut it down and who is waiting for one of the big boys to go first?

Big Sky
Big South
MVFC
NEC
OVC
Pioneer
Southern
Southland
SWAC

There are also four independents.

I think either the NEC or the SWAC is next.


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FWIW, Elon and James Madison apparently going independent for the year. JMU and Elon are the only ones that haven't canceled fall programs and both have announced pursing other ways to schedule fall football and potentially other sports.

[Anthony215]

JMU could schedule a home/home with Chattanooga, Elon &Merrimack and still get maybe Garner Webb & VMI, while taking paydays from Liberty, and 1 of the FBS independents like UCONN, UMass, Army or Navy. That's an 9 game schedule in itself. Very challenging yet they could make a good penny even with socially distancing especially if they can secure a payday against one of the Academy services. I suspect they'd offer up more than say UCONN or UMass.

[Bill]

JMU could schedule a home/home with Chattanooga, Elon &Merrimack and still get maybe Garner Webb & VMI, while taking paydays from Liberty, and 1 of the FBS independents like UCONN, UMass, Army or Navy. That's an 9 game schedule in itself. Very challenging yet they could make a good penny even with socially distancing especially if they can secure a payday against one of the Academy services. I suspect they'd offer up more than say UCONN or UMass.

Anthony,
I may be mistaken here - but are you sure the service academies PAY a guarantee?? I did not think that was something they did...

[bonarae]

OVC may play if "medical science supports it." Maybe they will call it off?

https://www.paducahsun.com/sports/ovcs-debauche-desire-to-play-if-medical-science-supports-it/article_8c8a7a29-a59c-5074-8381-cf17702d0a20.html

[walliver]

I dislike all these announcements that "science" will determine the action to take. The "science" of COVID-19 infection will not likely be settled for 3-4 years - that's how long it usually takes after an epidemic or pandemic. The "science" won't be settled by September (or January).

[Anthony215]

Anthony,
I may be mistaken here - but are you sure the service academies PAY a guarantee?? I did not think that was something they did...

Yup they offer a guarantee for FCS schools as well as OOC FBS schools that travel to Annapolis and West Point. Delaware played at Navy a few years back and got a check cut for a couple hundred thousand, Lafayette was due to make I believe 150K for their road trip before the Patriot League cancelled the season.

[ST_Lawson]

Big South has announced that they will be starting fall sports on September 3rd. I believe this means that, as of today, they are planning on a full football season (minus any other teams cancelling/delaying games). I know WIU has a home game scheduled against UNA on 9/3, which is supposed to be our opening game.

https://twitter.com/BigSouthSports/status/1286013185548484610

[Panther88]

Big South has announced that they will be starting fall sports on September 3rd. I believe this means that, as of today, they are planning on a full football season (minus any other teams cancelling/delaying games). I know WIU has a home game scheduled against UNA on 9/3, which is supposed to be our opening game.

https://twitter.com/BigSouthSports/status/1286013185548484610

Hampton University canceling fall sports, how does this affect the direction of the Big South w/ regards to fall sports participation by all conference members?

Will HamptU be fined/formally reprimanded?

[Baron Sardonicus]

agreed .. Pioneer dropping fall football is one of the more logical decision.

NO. With a name like Pioneer, you think they're going to quit? We may be the only conference playing this year. I'm talking major network exposure. Game Day in Poughkeepsie...

[unknown3]

I dislike all these announcements that "science" will determine the action to take. The "science" of COVID-19 infection will not likely be settled for 3-4 years - that's how long it usually takes after an epidemic or pandemic. The "science" won't be settled by September (or January).

That doesnt mean just throw your kids out there when you know little to nothing about the long term effects of the virus... which is exactly what people pushing for sports are doing. Good on the HBCU's for actually caring about their student athletes.

[McNeese72]

Southland and McNeese both say they are planning on playing the season on time unless they are eventually told no.

Doc

[NY Crusader 2010]

Hampton University canceling fall sports, how does this affect the direction of the Big South w/ regards to fall sports participation by all conference members?

Will HamptU be fined/formally reprimanded?

I have a hard time believing that a school would be fined or reprimanded for suspending a season out of safety concern for student athletes. The only question would be whether their Big South games officially go down as forfeits. I doubt it.

[ETSUfan1]

Glad to see the Big South say they are proceeding with football this fall. Need the ACC and SEC to state their plans....think that will affect the SoCon.

[bonarae]

SEMO announcing the OVC's decision to delay non-revenue fall sports' start. Q: why was football off the table in the decision? xchinscratchx

https://gosoutheast.com/news/2020/7/22/general-statement-on-fall-sports-by-director-of-athletics-brady-barke.aspx

[dgtw]

SEMO announcing the OVC's decision to delay non-revenue fall sports' start. Q: why was football off the table in the decision? xchinscratchx

https://gosoutheast.com/news/2020/7/22/general-statement-on-fall-sports-by-director-of-athletics-brady-barke.aspx

Volleyball is a sport that is easy to do under the current conditions. Attendance is sparse so that isn’t a problem. The players are spread out on the court and you could mandate masks for coaches, refs, and players on the bench along with anyone else involved in putting the game on such as ticket takers, concession stand, etc.

Cross country also seems like something you could do. Maybe require a mask for the first half mile or so until they get spread out and have a marker where they can rip it off and drop it on the ground.


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[NY Crusader 2010]

New York and New England for the most part are "out of the woods" it would appear with regards to COVID. New York state in particular is down to single-digit daily death totals with a death rate of 0.21 / 1,000 for the 18-44 age group. Yet conferences in our region were the first to pull the plug. Regions where COVID hospitalizations and deaths are still peaking or near peak have yet to cancel sports. So it's an interesting dichotomy where those that COULD likely play safely have already chosen not to and those in areas where risk is still much greater still have yet to cancel.

Obviously California is a dumpster fire.

[bonarae]

New York and New England for the most part are "out of the woods" it would appear with regards to COVID. New York state in particular is down to single-digit daily death totals with a death rate of 0.21 / 1,000 for the 18-44 age group. Yet conferences in our region were the first to pull the plug. Regions where COVID hospitalizations and deaths are still peaking or near peak have yet to cancel sports. So it's an interesting dichotomy where those that COULD likely play safely have already chosen not to and those in areas where risk is still much greater still have yet to cancel.

Obviously California is a dumpster fire.

Isn't it ironic, don't you think? xchinscratchx

xoutofrepx

[Libertine]

Cross country also seems like something you could do. Maybe require a mask for the first half mile or so until they get spread out and have a marker where they can rip it off and drop it on the ground.


Cross country could be done very easily by spreading out staging areas and starting runners in waves. However, speaking as a runner and the parent of a runner, wearing anything over your face that blocks air flow out while running -- for even half a mile -- is an extremely dangerous thing to do. Competitive running is a strenuous aerobic activity requiring deep breathing and, in that situation, you can't adequately inhale oxygen through a filter nor, most importantly, can you adequately expel carbon dioxide. Wearing a mask while doing any kind of high-intensity cardio is just asking your body to go hypoxic and pass out.

[dgtw]

Cross country could be done very easily by spreading out staging areas and starting runners in waves. However, speaking as a runner and the parent of a runner, wearing anything over your face that blocks air flow out while running -- for even half a mile -- is an extremely dangerous thing to do. Competitive running is a strenuous aerobic activity requiring deep breathing and, in that situation, you can't adequately inhale oxygen through a filter nor, most importantly, can you adequately expel carbon dioxide. Wearing a mask while doing any kind of high-intensity cardio is just asking your body to go hypoxic and pass out.

Yeah, I didn’t think that was a good idea. Starting in shifts would be better, but it might not be 100% fair as you wouldn’t know what time you needed to post.


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[cx500d]

Cross country could be done very easily by spreading out staging areas and starting runners in waves. However, speaking as a runner and the parent of a runner, wearing anything over your face that blocks air flow out while running -- for even half a mile -- is an extremely dangerous thing to do. Competitive running is a strenuous aerobic activity requiring deep breathing and, in that situation, you can't adequately inhale oxygen through a filter nor, most importantly, can you adequately expel carbon dioxide. Wearing a mask while doing any kind of high-intensity cardio is just asking your body to go hypoxic and pass out.

I wish someone would have told me about that, I may not have been a swimmer.

[NY Crusader 2010]

I love how everyone has to come up with all these elaborate plans to keep cross country runners spread apart during a race as if it makes a difference.

a) Are there any group of athletes outside of collegiate cross country that are less likely to have pre-existing conditions making them susceptible to COVID? I don't think so. These guys have the strongest lungs and hearts of anyone.

b) I still find it funny that people think that college athletes aren't going to be partying and hanging out with friends in close proximity when on campus, as if tweaking how a sport is played will make a difference.

[cx500d]

I love how everyone has to come up with all these elaborate plans to keep cross country runners spread apart during a race as if it makes a difference.

a) Are there any group of athletes outside of collegiate cross country that are less likely to have pre-existing conditions making them susceptible to COVID? I don't think so. These guys have the strongest lungs and hearts of anyone.

b) I still find it funny that people think that college athletes aren't going to be partying and hanging out with friends in close proximity when on campus, as if tweaking how a sport is played will make a difference.
I would say they have the 2nd strongest lungs and hearts...

[bonarae]

PFL is probably next... Davidson and Dayton will only play conference games, and Butler may follow suit.

https://fbschedules.com/five-more-fcs-football-non-conference-games-canceled-due-to-covid-19/

[CenMEBlackBearFan]

I 'm hearing that a New England FBS independent team will make an announcement today that will not be playing this fall.xnodx

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

PFL is probably next... Davidson and Dayton will only play conference games, and Butler may follow suit.

https://fbschedules.com/five-more-fcs-football-non-conference-games-canceled-due-to-covid-19/



I'm sure Drake will be next for NDSU. That will be all OOC games gone this year.

[aceinthehole]

I 'm hearing that a New England FBS independent team will make an announcement today that will not be playing this fall.xnodx

Really? That sucks. I had it on good word CCSU and UConn were trying to work on a game this year :(

Oh well ... We might not have a season anyway. Somewhat surprisingly, there was zero talk about the 2020 schedule during the entire NEC media day.

[The Yo Show]

Wonder what the MVFC announcement for early next week regarding 2020 football will be?

[cx500d]

Wonder what the MVFC announcement for early next week regarding 2020 football will be?
I heard they were going to challenge the big sky to a grudge match, in the cage

[walliver]

I 'm hearing that a New England FBS independent team will make an announcement today that will not be playing this fall.xnodx

Will anybody anywhere actually care what that team does? ;)

[WestCoastAggie]

I’m telling you now that another school that’s in a conference that canceled the season is going to try and play as an independent.

[ETSUfan1]

The South Atlantic Conference has announced no fall sports until September 26th. That means ETSU's opener against Mars Hill is off. Glad honestly...ETSU was the only SoCon member playing a D-II this year. Bad scheduling.

[mvemjsunpx]

I 'm hearing that a New England FBS independent team will make an announcement today that will not be playing this fall.xnodx

It's nice to see that COVID isn't changing everything. xcoffeex

[bonarae]

MVFC will play, but at what kind of schedule? xchinscratchx

https://247sports.com/college/north-dakota-state/Article/Sources-Valley-to-play-football-149564577/ (https://247sports.com/college/north-dakota-state/Article/Sources-Valley-to-play-football-149564577/?fbclid=IwAR2eNaRl7zrkZ6XZA2o7xC6LRW-ytPutfR-2sb8xL5mX5Z_v0OTFx5KjQXc)

[Go Green]

You want to know who's next? Major League Baseball.

The Marlins have an outbreak of COVID and canceled today's game. Either they cancel more games, or suit up their minor leaguers to take over...

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/orioles-vs-marlins-home-opener-canceled-after-covid-19-outbreak-within-marlins-team/33432449

[NY Crusader 2010]

I’m telling you now that another school that’s in a conference that canceled the season is going to try and play as an independent.

James Madison

[unknown3]

You want to know who's next? Major League Baseball.

The Marlins have an outbreak of COVID and canceled today's game. Either they cancel more games, or suit up their minor leaguers to take over...

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/orioles-vs-marlins-home-opener-canceled-after-covid-19-outbreak-within-marlins-team/33432449

And this isnt even a contact sport really. What do you think is going to happen when football starts? IF it even starts. Was pretty obvious that this would happen but they didnt even last a week before it did.

[MSUBobcat]

You want to know who's next? Major League Baseball.

The Marlins have an outbreak of COVID and canceled today's game. Either they cancel more games, or suit up their minor leaguers to take over...

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/orioles-vs-marlins-home-opener-canceled-after-covid-19-outbreak-within-marlins-team/33432449


And this isnt even a contact sport really. What do you think is going to happen when football starts? IF it even starts. Was pretty obvious that this would happen but they didnt even last a week before it did.

When I saw that the Marlins had an outbreak yesterday, I said, "welp... that was fun." One week of games against competition and there's already 2 games cancelled.

Like this unknown fella states, if you can't play baseball for even a month, going back to the start of "summer camp", how the hell do we expect to not have outbreaks in football? Are schools going to have access to rapid testing (24-48 hour turnaround max) and then quarantine from the time of the test to the time of the game? Otherwise, testing is almost pointless. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that there's not going to be a season since COVID as a whole is rising more now than even during the first surge. I'll watch whatever few games we get, college and NFL, until it gets shut down, but I just don't envision a scenario where we get to a conclusion to the season. xprayx that more people get on board with mitigation so we get the spread under control and some sense of normalcy returns, but not holding my breath.

[ccd494]

The MAAC cancelled fall sports today. Marist on football:


The Marist football program competes in the Pioneer Football League (PFL), which is one of just two conferences that sponsors football as its only sport. Marist will not play non-league football games this fall, as the Red Foxes' contests against Georgetown, Cornell, and Dartmouth have been canceled. PFL presidents and athletic directors are holding regular meetings to determine the viability of the 2020 season. Consistent with Marist's fall sports, it is presumed that the Red Foxes' football season may be postponed barring significant improvements related to the COVID-19 pandemic. A decision regarding Marist's football season is expected within the next few weeks.

TL;DR: Definitely no non-conference (was all Ivy/Patriot anyways). Unlikely to play league contests.

https://goredfoxes.com/news/2020/7/27/general-statement-on-fall-sports-competition.aspx

My note: of the schools in the Pioneer, the only ones in states not requiring a 14 day quarantine after travel to New York are Morehead State, Butler, and Valpo. For all other contests, either Marist or their opponent would be required to strictly quarantine upon arrival/re-arrival to New York. Tough to schedule that.

[ccd494]

Monmouth is out for football:


Monmouth's football team, which competes in the Big South Conference, will also forgo the fall season.

https://monmouthhawks.com/news/2020/7/27/monmouth-announces-decision-on-fall-athletics-plan.aspx

[Bisonoline]

We will know at 3pm today what the conference is doing.

[NY Crusader 2010]

The MAAC cancelled fall sports today. Marist on football:

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TL;DR: Definitely no non-conference (was all Ivy/Patriot anyways). Unlikely to play league contests.

https://goredfoxes.com/news/2020/7/27/general-statement-on-fall-sports-competition.aspx

My note: of the schools in the Pioneer, the only ones in states not requiring a 14 day quarantine after travel to New York are Morehead State, Butler, and Valpo. For all other contests, either Marist or their opponent would be required to strictly quarantine upon arrival/re-arrival to New York. Tough to schedule that.

Given the amount of air travel already baked into the PFL schedule, would it be a remote possibility that Marist plays all their games, home or away, in a non-high risk state?

PFL seems ultimately doomed:

Marist - strict quarantine laws coming in and out of NY that restrict travel to/from many states
Davidson -- high-risk state
Campbell -- high risk state
San Diego -- high risk state

Morehead/Valpo/Butler/Drake -- Probably OK. Maybe those 4 play a handful of games against each other. Am I missing anyone?

[Bisonoline]

We will know at 3pm today what the conference is doing.

Looks like they are going to wait before making a decision.

IMO I think they want to give this season every chance of playing.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Looks like they are going to wait before making a decision.

IMO I think they want to give this season every chance of playing.



Hope we get something but it seems less likely all the time.

[Bisonoline]

Hope we get something but it seems less likely all the time.

Ive already got a fishing trip planned for Sept 12-19. Wife really doesnt want to go this year being in a high risk category. So this season is really dicked up and I just dont see how they can pull it off unless the cases really fall off.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Ive already got a fishing trip planned for Sept 12-19. Wife really doesnt want to go this year being in a high risk category. So this season is really dicked up and I just dont see how they can pull it off unless the cases really fall off.


I think you are right. Larsen keeps saying the PC things but I think he probably knows the season is probably gone. Conference only games then what? No playoffs.

Too bad because this Bison team was really going to be good. The offense was probably going to be the best one during this run. Oregon was going to be a great test... no one else on the schedule would shut down this offense.

Sucks!

:(

[Go Green]

Too bad because this Bison team was really going to be good. The offense was probably going to be the best one during this run. Oregon was going to be a great test... no one else on the schedule would shut down this offense.

Sucks!

:(

Princeton fans are saying the same thing (although their big test was Army rather than Oregon).

[CenMEBlackBearFan]

If MLB can't control the COVID-19 spread with all the testing and money available to do so I don't think there is anyway college football plays this fall:(

[OhioHen]

Given the amount of air travel already baked into the PFL schedule, would it be a remote possibility that Marist plays all their games, home or away, in a non-high risk state?

PFL seems ultimately doomed:

Marist - strict quarantine laws coming in and out of NY that restrict travel to/from many states
Davidson -- high-risk state
Campbell -- high risk state
San Diego -- high risk state

Morehead/Valpo/Butler/Drake -- Probably OK. Maybe those 4 play a handful of games against each other. Am I missing anyone?

Stetson - high risk state

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

If MLB can't control the COVID-19 spread with all the testing and money available to do so I don't think there is anyway college football plays this fall:(


This here. I doubt there will be a season unless total positive cases goes way down.

[BEAR]

Ok. If only a few conferences actually play football, is it unlikely that the playoffs will be held? So it may be a year of scrimmages? xlolx

[McNeese72]

Ok. If only a few conferences actually play football, is it unlikely that the playoffs will be held? So it may be a year of scrimmages? xlolx

If there are no playoffs, I guess it will be a good year to serve that one year playoff ban due to the low APR two years ago. ;)

Doc

[dunbar]

If MLB can't control the COVID-19 spread with all the testing and money available to do so I don't think there is anyway college football plays this fall:(

In fairness, it's only one team and only affects one of the three circuits. The overreaction to the Marlins positive tests and the demands to shut it all down totally disregards the fact that there have been zero positive tests in the Central and Western divisions over the past two weeks.

[OhioHen]

If there are no playoffs, I guess it will be a good year to serve that one year playoff ban due to the low APR two years ago. ;)

Doc

But if there ARE playoffs, you lose a year with far less competition for at large bids.

[McNeese72]

But if there ARE playoffs, you lose a year with far less competition for at large bids.

Yes, I know. But the APR ban is what it is. Thanks, Lance Guidry.

Doc

[dgtw]

And then there were seven.

Big Sky
Big South
MVFC
OVC
Pioneer
Southern
Southland


There are also four independents.


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[Anthony215]

And then there were seven.

Big Sky
Big South
MVFC
OVC
Pioneer
Southern
Southland


There are also four independents.


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Makes 0 sense for these 7 leagues to continue with a Fall season. Makes all the more sense to do a spring in conference season so you get seniors who need footage a chance to get film to scouts, don't have to reduce aid to c/o 2021 kids and can recruit fully for the class of 2022 recruits. Can't have a true playoff so why not wait until January when it's presumed things will be a lot safer and better with immunizations available. Critics say kids won't want to play 2 seasons in one but I beg to differ kids want to play ball, in college spring season as demanding, throw in some games rather than having to tee off on your teammates for 8 weeks in the weight room and practice fields and you'll see motivated players on the field every week. Another bonus is for the small schools (FCS/D2/D3) they're not sharing game day with the FBS schools so scouts can see them in person during practice and game days easier.

[dgtw]

So are we going to have 17 at large bids?


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[unknown3]

In fairness, it's only one team and only affects one of the three circuits. The overreaction to the Marlins positive tests and the demands to shut it all down totally disregards the fact that there have been zero positive tests in the Central and Western divisions over the past two weeks.

Actually, it's two teams now as the Phillies have been shut down too for positive cases. There is no way they are going to be able to control this.

[Dane96]

And St. Louis. THree teams now.

Players union believes the season could be shut down as early as Monday.

As much as I love football and sports, expecting a college football season is just a fool's errand (at this point).

[bonarae]

The fate of fall sports can be decided as early as Tuesday....

https://missoulian.com/sports/college/big-sky-conference/university-of-montana/why-the-ncaa-board-of-governors-meeting-tuesday-is-a-big-day-for-college-sports/article_5933271d-6f85-5518-bf77-e4642bb0b3a6.html

[bonarae]

NCAA decision on this season's playoffs will be announced Wednesday morning, per Brian McLaughlin.

[ccd494]

UConn football out for the year.

[Anthony215]

Welp they won't be the only school, I forsee C-USA/MAC both cancelling the season. The only G5 leagues I believe that could play a season is MW and AAC. And that's a stretch because their bottom feeder teams in both leagues are struggling financially without the P5 payout games on the schedule from the PAC 12 and Big 12.

[CenMEBlackBearFan]

Here is the announcement on UConn, was supposed to have been public last week.
https://uconnhuskies.com/news/2020/8/5/uconn-football-announces-cancellation-of-2020-season-due-to-risks-associated-with-covid-19.aspx

[walliver]

Even if football is played this fall, I doubt we will have FCS playoffs. All upcoming athletic events during "flu season" are at risk. 2020 may be remembered by sports fans as an asterisk season - no records or streaks during this period will be recognized.

[ETSUfan1]

http://on.ncaa.com/bog8-5

The NCAA gives the go ahead if a certain set of conditions are followed. So now what?

[BEAR]

Now we play! xbowx

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/board-directs-each-division-safeguard-student-athlete-well-being-scholarships-and-eligibility


All student-athletes must be allowed to opt out of participation due to concerns about contracting COVID-19. If a college athlete chooses to opt out, that individual’s athletics scholarship commitment must be honored by the college or university.

NCAA championships may use reduced bracketing, a reduced number of competitors, predetermined sites and, where appropriate, single sites to limit exposure to COVID-19.

If 50% or more of eligible teams in a particular sport in a division cancel their fall season, there will be no fall NCAA championship in that sport in that division.

The divisions must determine by Aug. 21 whether their respective fall sports seasons and NCAA championships should occur this year. All three divisions must follow their governance processes in making decisions.

[FUBeAR]

Now we play! xbowx

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/board-directs-each-division-safeguard-student-athlete-well-being-scholarships-and-eligibility


All student-athletes must be allowed to opt out of participation due to concerns about contracting COVID-19. If a college athlete chooses to opt out, that individual’s athletics scholarship commitment must be honored by the college or university.

NCAA championships may use reduced bracketing, a reduced number of competitors, predetermined sites and, where appropriate, single sites to limit exposure to COVID-19.

If 50% or more of eligible teams in a particular sport in a division cancel their fall season, there will be no fall NCAA championship in that sport in that division.

The divisions must determine by Aug. 21 whether their respective fall sports seasons and NCAA championships should occur this year. All three divisions must follow their governance processes in making decisions.


Play...maybe

NCAA Sanctioned Championship? Seeing that as unlikely...by my quick & likely inaccurate (but not terribly so...hopefully) count, if 9 (or so) more FCS Teams opt out of Fall Ball...that will go over 50%. Doubtful, all 72 (or so) that haven’t opted out yet are going to decide to press on.

[BEAR]

While I am no fan of the NCAA, I like the fact they gave the athlete the power to decide if he/she wants to play without any recourse. I like the fact that they gave the conferences and divisions the power to decide if they were going to hold a championship and in what format (pending athletes don't opt out themselves). Plus I like the deadline of August 21st. Alot can happen between today and then. Our first game is August 29th. At least we will all know by then if there will ever be a season.

[Bisonoline]

Play...maybe

NCAA Sanctioned Championship? Seeing that as unlikely...by my quick & likely inaccurate (but not terribly so...hopefully) count, if 9 (or so) more FCS Teams opt out of Fall Ball...that will go over 50%. Doubtful, all 72 (or so) that haven’t opted out yet are going to decide to press on.

I dont get this---

Each division must determine no later than Aug. 14 the eligibility accommodations that must be made for student-athletes who opt out of participating this fall or for those whose seasons are canceled or cut short due to COVID-19. College athletes and their families must know what their eligibility status will be before beginning the fall season.

Its the NCAA who decided if a player gets another year depending on circumstances. Are they now deferring that power to the conferences?

[OhioHen]

Play...maybe

NCAA Sanctioned Championship? Seeing that as unlikely...by my quick & likely inaccurate (but not terribly so...hopefully) count, if 9 (or so) more FCS Teams opt out of Fall Ball...that will go over 50%. Doubtful, all 72 (or so) that haven’t opted out yet are going to decide to press on.

Your math is close. If 9 or fewer additional teams opt out completely, FCS will pass the 50% threshold. 125 teams with 72 currently planning to play at least one game means a loss of 9 would leave us at 63 and eligible to hold a championship.

Could the FCS try to argue that the list of teams for calculations be made based on NOT including the two conferences (IVY, SWAC) that do not participate at all in the playoffs? MEAC would still count because they don't preclude their non-champions from participating in the playoffs. Removing the Ivy and SWAC would put us at 107 total teams meaning only 54 would have to play, allowing up to 18 more non-participants.

[OhioHen]

I dont get this---

Each division must determine no later than Aug. 14 the eligibility accommodations that must be made for student-athletes who opt out of participating this fall or for those whose seasons are canceled or cut short due to COVID-19. College athletes and their families must know what their eligibility status will be before beginning the fall season.

Its the NCAA who decided if a player gets another year depending on circumstances. Are they now deferring that power to the conferences?

I believe this refers to Division I, Division II, and Division III deciding HOW eligibility will be extended.

[Bisonoline]

I believe this refers to Division I, Division II, and Division III deciding HOW eligibility will be extended.

Thanks!!!!
WOW what an opportunity to get another year of school and to mature with out losing any eligibility.

[walliver]

Your math is close. If 9 or fewer additional teams opt out completely, FCS will pass the 50% threshold. 125 teams with 72 currently planning to play at least one game means a loss of 9 would leave us at 63 and eligible to hold a championship.

Could the FCS try to argue that the list of teams for calculations be made based on NOT including the two conferences (IVY, SWAC) that do not participate at all in the playoffs? MEAC would still count because they don't preclude their non-champions from participating in the playoffs. Removing the Ivy and SWAC would put us at 107 total teams meaning only 54 would have to play, allowing up to 18 more non-participants.

Are SWAC tems techically out of consideration? It's just very unlikely that a team not involved with the Bayou Classic or conference championship game would be invited.

[McNeese72]

https://sportsnaut.com/2020/08/big-sky-conference-cancels-2020-college-football-season/?fbclid=IwAR1NjzBXqFOaRrgEfbshL0mRtdQ7yjmIUpRvA9sy WqB3UmscDf_qprBfSxk

[OhioHen]

https://sportsnaut.com/2020/08/big-sky-conference-cancels-2020-college-football-season/?fbclid=IwAR1NjzBXqFOaRrgEfbshL0mRtdQ7yjmIUpRvA9sy WqB3UmscDf_qprBfSxk

Other posts happening AFTER that was posted indicate the meeting is at "4:00 p.m." If that's CDT it's happening now, MDT or PDT meeting hasn't started yet.

I suppose it COULD have been EDT, but in that case this was posted 45 minutes before THAT time slot.

[Lorne_Malvo]

BMac on twitter says the Big Sky is done. Not sure is its official.

[mmiller_34]

BMac on twitter says the Big Sky is done. Not sure is its official.

:( That is a big blow.

[bonarae]

Pioneer League shuts the door as well.

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20200806194702579978004&ref=rec&tm=&src=FCS

[ASU33]

Pioneer League shuts the door as well.

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20200806194702579978004&ref=rec&tm=&src=FCS

I don't think that anyone realistically thought that they would play this year.

[dudeitsaid]

BMac on twitter says the Big Sky is done. Not sure is its official.

Yeah, it's being reported on local media. Rough...but not unexpected. Sounds like they might be working on some sort of conference schedule for the spring.

https://www.khq.com/regional/big-sky-conference-canceling-fall-football-season/article_7ea8861d-8837-5cbd-865f-47deb4442c0b.html

[dudeitsaid]

Also, I know for sure if COVID didn't happen, EWU was going to win the NC. I crown the Eagles the de facto national champions.

[cx500d]

Also, I know for sure if COVID didn't happen, EWU was going to win the NC. I crown the Eagles the de facto national champions.


Probably true, we were headed for a 7-5 season. Next year we will be loaded, 15-0

[BEAR]

I'm guessing the fans of the schools that have checked out...have checked out from this board...xconfusedx

[Anthony215]

Does anyone know if the athletic departments will still provide assistance to athletes even with seasons being postponed/cancelled. Many athletes with no fall sports will be taking online classes and those are easy to fall behind on if you aren't focused and following the schedule daily. I would hope coaches are using those resources especially for kids who struggled with in person classes.

[dgtw]

Awaiting official word from the Big Sky, here are the remaining six.

Big Sky
Big South
MVFC
OVC
Southern
Southland


There are also four independents.

Have any of the independents officially shut down?


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[Catbooster]

Awaiting official word from the Big Sky, here are the remaining six.

Big Sky
Big South
MVFC
OVC
Southern
Southland


There are also four independents.

Have any of the independents officially shut down?


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It's official: https://bigskyconf.com/
Big Sky moved to spring.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

It's official: https://bigskyconf.com/
Big Sky moved to spring.

It is official for sure but at this time the spring is still unknown from the email Haslam sent out a little bit ago. I mean I know it is all unsure of course but even in his email it sort of read that they were looking at it but did not have plans as of yet. Spring is a possibility I guess would be the way I should have put it.

I did not read your link yet though so maybe it is a definite plan...

[Catbooster]

It is official for sure but at this time the spring is still unknown from the email Haslam sent out a little bit ago. I mean I know it is all unsure of course but even in his email it sort of read that they were looking at it but did not have plans as of yet. Spring is a possibility I guess would be the way I should have put it.

I did not read your link yet though so maybe it is a definite plan...
No, you're right. No details given about moving to the spring or what that means. It didn't sound to me like they really know what they're doing yet - talked about committees turning their attention toward figuring it out.

[JALMOND]

FWIW...Portland State would not be able to start any practice until Multnomah County (Portland's county) is in Phase 3 of Oregon's reopening plan. Currently,the county is in Phase 1.

https://goviks.com/news/2020/8/7/big-sky-postpones-football-conference-competition-until-spring.aspx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

No, you're right. No details given about moving to the spring or what that means. It didn't sound to me like they really know what they're doing yet - talked about committees turning their attention toward figuring it out.

Okay, that is exactly the feel I got from our email too. I know this is just a softening of the blow move that any organization would take before telling us it a no go altogether but I respect that this a tough deal for all of them and they are scrambling.

I'll bet Lamberty and Haslam are looking at a way to "bubble" the two programs somewhere and play a series of games just to fill in any missed games from history...and bank a couple for the future. xlolx

[dgtw]

With the Big Sky now official, here’s who is left.


Big South
MVFC
OVC
Southern
Southland


There are also four independents.

Have any of the independents officially shut down?


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[mvfcfan]

I bet towards the beginning that the OVC would be the last one to cancel, and they've made it to the Final 4 now. They've all been practicing, although EKU has been having issues. Some of the players have quit due to a lack of testing.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I bet towards the beginning that the OVC would be the last one to cancel, and they've made it to the Final 4 now. They've all been practicing, although EKU has been having issues. Some of the players have quit due to a lack of testing.

My order of next out is this:

MVFC
OVC
Southland
Southern
Big South

With the last three or four likely coming on the same day. Just a guess, anyone want to play on that?

[ursus arctos horribilis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-6lNgcI8w8&feature=youtu.be

[Catbooster]

Okay, that is exactly the feel I got from our email too. I know this is just a softening of the blow move that any organization would take before telling us it a no go altogether but I respect that this a tough deal for all of them and they are scrambling.

I'll bet Lamberty and Haslam are looking at a way to "bubble" the two programs somewhere and play a series of games just to fill in any missed games from history...and bank a couple for the future. xlolx
This must be a boring year to be an Athletic Director. Lots fewer sporting events going on - probably not much for them to do. xthumbsupx

I agree that spring football is unlikely and we'll probably just end up having a more or less normal season next year (assuming medical research goes well). With the fall season coming on so quickly I think the spring season has been something that's a possibility but they haven't had time to really think about it too much. With this decision made, they still need to figure out whether they are going to try to get a couple non-conference or exhibition games this fall.

For spring football there are still lots of questions to figure out - logistics of adding delayed fall sports to the normal spring sports (scheduling practices/use of facilities), getting schedules made, how to handle scholarships with (assuming) seniors not using their eligibility up and a a new freshman incoming class, a short off-season to recover from injuries/surgeries, potential NFL recruiting during spring football season and myriad other issues, while still not really knowing what the status of the virus and public health will be 6 months from now.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

This must be a boring year to be an Athletic Director. Lots fewer sporting events going on - probably not much for them to do. xthumbsupx

I agree that spring football is unlikely and we'll probably just end up having a more or less normal season next year (assuming medical research goes well). With the fall season coming on so quickly I think the spring season has been something that's a possibility but they haven't had time to really think about it too much. With this decision made, they still need to figure out whether they are going to try to get a couple non-conference or exhibition games this fall.

For spring football there are still lots of questions to figure out - logistics of adding delayed fall sports to the normal spring sports (scheduling practices/use of facilities), getting schedules made, how to handle scholarships with (assuming) seniors not using their eligibility up and a a new freshman incoming class, a short off-season to recover from injuries/surgeries, potential NFL recruiting during spring football season and myriad other issues, while still not really knowing what the status of the virus and public health will be 6 months from now.

Yes sir, you put together the tip of the iceberg and even a few of those I had not even started thinking about as of yet...injuries screwing a real season for instance. There are just too many reason the choices between doing it and not doing it lean on the side of not doing it before you even contemplate COVID.

[dgtw]

If they play in the spring, what about the 2021 season?


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[bluedog]

According to multiple sources, the Missouri Valley Football Conference is likely going to announce this afternoon that they’re canceling their fall season.

This news comes after the Big Sky Conference (along with the CAA and multiple other FCS conferences) made the decision to hold off on football in the fall.

“If possible” the league would move to a six or eight-game schedule in the spring. Multiple factors including the national COVID-19 pandemic, athlete participation, and facility logistics will affect whether or not a spring season will come to pass.

https://247sports.com/college/north-dakota-state/Article/Sources-Valley-to-cancel-fall-season-look-to-the-spring-149974405/

[Schism55]

Sigh, who needs a drink or 9?

[Anthony215]

If they play in the spring, what about the 2021 season?


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You still have a fall 2021 season with a Spring delayed 2020 season. It's going to be conference schedule only so that's 6 games plus a conference championship game. Winter workouts would be the first 6 weeks of January/February. February 15th starts spring camp, and 1st games are the 1st saturday in March, all conference championship games would be completed by April 17th. Seniors who already have enough film on file will opt out but those who were fringe prospects or day 3 prospects will suit up and play. Also helps with scholarship numbers for Fall 2021 as coaches can keep their 2021 class in tact while also not having to pull scholarship money from C/O 2020 seniors. The 2021 season would start on time the last week in August which means Fall camp would start up August 1st.

[mvfcfan]

My order of next out is this:

MVFC
OVC
Southland
Southern
Big South

With the last three or four likely coming on the same day. Just a guess, anyone want to play on that?

I'll play. OVC and Big South will be the last two standing and won't cancel until either the NCAA makes them or the FBS cancels. The OVC didn't cancel baseball until the NCAA cancelled everything.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I'll play. OVC and Big South will be the last two standing and won't cancel until either the NCAA makes them or the FBS cancels. The OVC didn't cancel baseball until the NCAA cancelled everything.

That might be the better choice for sure then.

[mvfcfan]

I had to go back and look but the Southland is the only conference left of the four that decided to delay baseball (that was never seen again). The OVC, Big South, and SOCON all played until the NCAA stepped in. In fact it looks like those 3 conferences are the only ones that didn't cancel or delay baseball that also sponsor FCS football.

[KPSUL]

31739

[cx500d]

31739
are you copying my post? #29... next time chose a good picture, like mine

[Dane96]

JMU officially suspends fall football. Will seek a spring season. FCS will have to cancel fall playoffs for football

[Reign of Terrier]

I would put good odds that the socon announces something soon. With no possibility for a championship and OOC games canceled, there's really no point in risking it, especially since cases in the south are spiking right now.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

JMU officially suspends fall football. Will seek a spring season. FCS will have to cancel fall playoffs for football

Wow, I haven't seen you in a while Dane96. Good to see you still out there floating around a bit.xthumbsupx

[Dane96]

Wow, I haven't seen you in a while Dane96. Good to see you still out there floating around a bit.xthumbsupx

It's been a looooooong year. Work has been nuts and rehabbing on lingering neck / shoulder issue took up most of the year. Glad to be back, just wish there was some football to talk about.

[Dane96]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29616189/fcs-playoffs-shelved-fall-conferences-opt-wait-spring

[SUPharmacist]

Here is an oddball scenario (never going to happen). If the remaining conferences play fall football, and the other conferences play spring football would there be playoffs in the spring that invite teams from both a fall and spring season?

[Milktruck74]

Sadly, I feel like moving to a spring season is soon followed by.....a canceled season altogether.

[major095]

Sadly, I feel like moving to a spring season is soon followed by.....a canceled season altogether.

well, that would likely depend on our elected leaders particularly here in the south & at the fed level, taking their heads out of their butts and act proactively against the virus. so yeah, probably gonna get canceled.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

well, that would likely depend on our elected leaders particularly here in the south & at the fed level, taking their heads out of their butts and act proactively against the virus. so yeah, probably gonna get canceled.

Nope. We don't do the poli thing on this board. Several discussions going on around the poli wing about these exact issues including posting these sorts of posts that lead down the rabbit hole so make sure and keep those ones off the FCS board.

Now I am sure you are going to turn back to your previous post asking where the mods are about the post cx made but I have not made any stand on men calling each other out in that fashion on the FCS boards so I'm sorry on that but it is something we just need to tolerate when someone throws a name out here and there on the FCS boards. It is not nearly the problem that making poli points/statements on here.

[major095]

Nope. We don't do the poli thing on this board. Several discussions going on around the poli wing about these exact issues including posting these sorts of posts that lead down the rabbit hole so make sure and keep those ones off the FCS board.

Now I am sure you are going to turn back to your previous post asking where the mods are about the post cx made but I have not made any stand on men calling each other out in that fashion on the FCS boards so I'm sorry on that but it is something we just need to tolerate when someone throws a name out here and there on the FCS boards. It is not nearly the problem that making poli points/statements on here.

first... calling people names should not be tolerated.

second... if we wanted football, the response to the virus needed to be directed from the top down. this is indeed one of the times who we the people elected federally and locally to lead us has crossed over and affected the sport we all enjoy. I want to see football just like everyone else here. I recognize that wearing a mask on the daily and washing hands moves us closer to that end and not doing so moves us away from football and sports in general. sports are the reward for having a functioning society. the reason soccer flourishes in war torn countries? all you need is a ball and a field. no equipment, no league. just go play. you don't need gov't to function properly to play.

Last, as a school teacher, we are told to stay away from controversial things, even though those things are all around us. School is the perfect place to talk about them though. A college educated person in every room talking to young people. Now that has to be handled properly of course. You have a kid in your room that is gay or transgender? Just because you (I) believe that isn't what God intended you can't go in on them or their choice (or even call it a choice). College educated people should be able to have a discussion even if the topic is faith, sexuality, politics even on this board if it does intersect with football.

That's just one man's opinion. As I said before I don't know who the mods are. To my knowledge they haven't dealt with the name calling. We're all adults up in here. They will do what they will do. If I'm being honest, I'd tell you that graduating from a swac member institution means this place will never feel like my sports home. Too many in here look down on us for lots of reasons, but let me offer a warning.

If the swac/meac aren't healthy, neither are you. What this pandemic has demonstrated once again is that there is no red/blue, no black/white. we are one people. the problems of your neighbor will spill over into your yard. When the swac decided to move to the spring it should have made you grow very concerned. When black people die of covid (2 in my extended family) you should have put on a mask.

Now... how does this ban thing work? I've never experienced it before. Will they email me or will my log in just cease to work?

God bless and be good.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

first... calling people names should not be tolerated.

second... if we wanted football, the response to the virus needed to be directed from the top down. this is indeed one of the times who we the people elected federally and locally to lead us has crossed over and affected the sport we all enjoy. I want to see football just like everyone else here. I recognize that wearing a mask on the daily and washing hands moves us closer to that end and not doing so moves us away from football and sports in general. sports are the reward for having a functioning society. the reason soccer flourishes in war torn countries? all you need is a ball and a field. no equipment, no league. just go play. you don't need gov't to function properly to play.

Last, as a school teacher, we are told to stay away from controversial things, even though those things are all around us. School is the perfect place to talk about them though. A college educated person in every room talking to young people. Now that has to be handled properly of course. You have a kid in your room that is gay or transgender? Just because you (I) believe that isn't what God intended you can't go in on them or their choice (or even call it a choice). College educated people should be able to have a discussion even if the topic is faith, sexuality, politics even on this board if it does intersect with football.

That's just one man's opinion. As I said before I don't know who the mods are. To my knowledge they haven't dealt with the name calling. We're all adults up in here. They will do what they will do. If I'm being honest, I'd tell you that graduating from a swac member institution means this place will never feel like my sports home. Too many in here look down on us for lots of reasons, but let me offer a warning.

If the swac/meac aren't healthy, neither are you. What this pandemic has demonstrated once again is that there is no red/blue, no black/white. we are one people. the problems of your neighbor will spill over into your yard. When the swac decided to move to the spring it should have made you grow very concerned. When black people die of covid (2 in my extended family) you should have put on a mask.

Now... how does this ban thing work? I've never experienced it before. Will they email me or will my log in just cease to work?

God bless and be good.

I don't disagree with you. You should make all those points over the poli board. Name calling ain't gonna be the large factor here it may not be great but that is how it rolls here. You can make a choice if that is too much for you. I will make an effort to keep the poli stuff off of here and for the most part it is way better than it was a few years ago and will continue to get better because it is not really a ban that happens with those that can not follow that rule. It is me elimination this FCS board from your view. You can still see all the others board except this one IOW. If you feel like testing that I get it, go ahead and I can show you how it works I guess? A better way is to just do it my way. I am the owner and probably the only mod on here most of the time to answer that question for you.

[dgtw]

We have reached the final four:

Big South
OVC
Southern
Southland


There are also four independents.

Have any of the independents officially shut down?


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[Dane96]

MAC just cancelled First FBS to do so. Announcement later today.

[CenMEBlackBearFan]

According to ESPN the BIG 10 will announce they are done tomorrow, sure the rest will follow suit.xbawlingx

[JALMOND]

According to ESPN the BIG 10 will announce they are done tomorrow, sure the rest will follow suit.xbawlingx

Then we all can transfer this crazy game of "are we playing or not" to basketball, and start this whole process over again. Sadly, unless some type of breakthrough occurs, I can't see any college athletics played this school year.

[mvemjsunpx]

Then we all can transfer this crazy game of "are we playing or not" to basketball, and start this whole process over again. Sadly, unless some type of breakthrough occurs, I can't see any college athletics played this school year.

Time to put online backgammon players on scholarship!

[Anthony215]

ODU at the FBS level has just cancelled all Fall sports including football.

[dgtw]

https://tarletonsports.com/news/2020/8/10/tarleton-postpones-football-season-to-spring-semester.aspx

One of the independents has moved football to the spring.


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[Daytripper]

https://tarletonsports.com/news/2020/8/10/tarleton-postpones-football-season-to-spring-semester.aspx

One of the independents has moved football to the spring.


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This was our only OOC game. Sam Houston also announced that it is "suspending football camp." I just don't see a way that anybody is playing college football this fall.

https://gobearkats.com/news/2020/8/10/football-kats-delay-opening-of-fall-camp.aspx

[dgtw]

Of the other independents, I think Robert Morris and Dixie State have had all their games cancelled. Presbyterian has about five left.

BYU is down to three.


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[TSUsupporter]

The Mountain West is done for the year.
The Big 10 is talking about pulling the plug.
But Nebraska says that they will play no matter what.

And as I said a few days ago, it looks like Conference USA and the Sun Belt look to be good to go. It'll be very interesting to see if their players make a list of demands on what protocols need to be put in place.

Those southern FCS schools will not pull the plug, if CUSA and the Sun Belt are willing to pick up a few of them to play games.

[BEAR]

The Mountain West is done for the year.
The Big 10 is talking about pulling the plug.
But Nebraska says that they will play no matter what.

And as I said a few days ago, it looks like Conference USA and the Sun Belt look to be good to go. It'll be very interesting to see if their players make a list of demands on what protocols need to be put in place.

Those southern FCS schools will not pull the plug, if CUSA and the Sun Belt are willing to pick up a few of them to play games.

Sunbelt member Arkansas State picked up UCA. Nice short trip for a chance at an FBS win...if we play.

[ngineer]

This must be a boring year to be an Athletic Director. Lots fewer sporting events going on - probably not much for them to do. xthumbsupx

I agree that spring football is unlikely and we'll probably just end up having a more or less normal season next year (assuming medical research goes well). With the fall season coming on so quickly I think the spring season has been something that's a possibility but they haven't had time to really think about it too much. With this decision made, they still need to figure out whether they are going to try to get a couple non-conference or exhibition games this fall.

For spring football there are still lots of questions to figure out - logistics of adding delayed fall sports to the normal spring sports (scheduling practices/use of facilities), getting schedules made, how to handle scholarships with (assuming) seniors not using their eligibility up and a a new freshman incoming class, a short off-season to recover from injuries/surgeries, potential NFL recruiting during spring football season and myriad other issues, while still not really knowing what the status of the virus and public health will be 6 months from now.

Boring? Perhaps from the perspective of not coordinating all the sports programs and dealing with they myriad of daily issues; but, not from the perspective of figuring out how to survive. All financial sheets are hemorrhaging badly, and they may have a long term impact on the entire college sports scene. The old Greek curse, "May you live in interesting times."

[Mocs123]

Boring might not be the right word. My guess is there are some FCS programs that will not survive this pandemic. They've already lost any 2020 NCAA BB Tourney money they might have gotten, no 2020 football money, and who knows about 2020 BB. Yet they've still had to provide all the scholarships, pay the coaches, maintain the facilities, etc. Short of travel they've just about had a year's worth of expenses with zero income. All that while the school's income is down, especially with dorms sitting empty in many cases. It's not a good time to be an AD.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Boring might not be the right word. My guess is there are some FCS programs that will not survive this pandemic. They've already lost any 2020 NCAA BB Tourney money they might have gotten, no 2020 football money, and who knows about 2020 BB. Yet they've still had to provide all the scholarships, pay the coaches, maintain the facilities, etc. Short of travel they've just about had a year's worth of expenses with zero income. All that while the school's income is down, especially with dorms sitting empty in many cases. It's not a good time to be an AD.


Maybe it is a good thing in the long run. Are there way too many higher institutions now in this country?

Lose a certain % and the others need to compete to get kids and maybe tuition might come down a bit?? But that might be a pipe dream with guaranteed gov money kids use to fund their tuition/room-board/fees.

Biggest winners will be schools like Liberty U that have huge online numbers.

[Hammerhead]

I don't think we have too many colleges an universities. IMHO, we have too many that participate in D-I athletics. I can see lots of schools scaling back on athletics by dropping to lower divisions and reducing the number of sports they sponsor.

[Anthony215]

UMass is out they've cancelled fall sports including football with hopes of playing in the Spring. Don't see how that's possible for them or UConn when most leagues who are looking to do a spring season is restricting it to conference play only.

[MSUBobcat]

Maybe it is a good thing in the long run. Are there way too many higher institutions now in this country?

Lose a certain % and the others need to compete to get kids and maybe tuition might come down a bit?? But that might be a pipe dream with guaranteed gov money kids use to fund their tuition/room-board/fees.

Biggest winners will be schools like Liberty U that have huge online numbers.

That's not at all how supply and demand works. If somehow this causes higher education institutions to close, that means KIDS are going to be competing even more to get into a school, not schools competing more to get kids. The demand is the same, but supply is reduced. This causes price to go UP, not down. If Wendy's closes down, McDonald's doesn't lower the price of a Big Mac.

I agree with Hammerhead. There's a lot of schools that are D-I in name only and this may cause them to accept reality and join a division with more similar peers.

[Anthony215]

That's not at all how supply and demand works. If somehow this causes higher education institutions to close, that means KIDS are going to be competing even more to get into a school, not schools competing more to get kids. The demand is the same, but supply is reduced. This causes price to go UP, not down. If Wendy's closes down, McDonald's doesn't lower the price of a Big Mac.

I agree with Hammerhead. There's a lot of schools that are D-I in name only and this may cause them to accept reality and join a division with more similar peers.

There are about 6 FBS schools I can name quickly who could move down to FCS level (UMass, UConn, New Mexico State, UTEP, Akron and New Mexico) could slide down to the FCS level.

[Mocs123]

And one FCS school that could move up.

[POD Knows]

And one FCS school that could move up.JMU

[BEAR]

JMU

Ok. Two xlolx

[dgtw]

The whole MAC should drop to FCS.


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[gophoenix]

Elon just officially canceled all fall sports, so football is finally out.

[TheKingpin28]

Ok. Two xlolx

Chatty, since they were suppose to win like 15 titles in a row?

[Mocs123]

Yes, perhaps JMU should move up too, but I'm not sure how sustainable their athletic budget is with so much of it funded by student fees. In all honesty, at least JMU has options if they want to move up. NDSU should move up competitively, but don't really fit any conference footprint.

[wapiti]

Are teams still practicing? Is there still a limit on the number of practices a team can do? What if teams schedule a scrimmage game against lower division teams in the area?

Do this year's seniors get another year if they want one? I would assume some of the seniors are graduating and moving on to their next phase of life. Others may take another year before graduating or move on to graduate school.
The senior question may depend on what happens with the spring season.

Will there be playoffs if a spring season is played? How will the Northern teams without an indoor practice facility do practices in February, March and April? March and April are often the snowiest months in Montana and February is often frigid.

[TSUsupporter]

Bye Bye Big 10. See you in 2021.

[The Yo Show]

Bye bye all college football in 2020. See you in 2021.

[MR. CHICKEN]

Bye bye all college football in 2020. See you in 2021.


.......FALL....2021................BRAWK!

[POD Knows]

Ok. Two xlolxWho is the other one??

[TheKingpin28]

Who is the other one??


Chatty, since they were suppose to win like 15 titles in a row?

xcoffeex

[POD Knows]

xcoffeexThanks, I missed that one, it makes sense, SEC close by, maybe the ACC.

[TheKingpin28]

Thanks, I missed that one, it makes sense, SEC close by, maybe the ACC.Indy. They are better than THE SEC and according to Chattown, are going to eventually win it all and we will be humbled for it.

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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

That's not at all how supply and demand works. If somehow this causes higher education institutions to close, that means KIDS are going to be competing even more to get into a school, not schools competing more to get kids. The demand is the same, but supply is reduced. This causes price to go UP, not down. If Wendy's closes down, McDonald's doesn't lower the price of a Big Mac.

I agree with Hammerhead. There's a lot of schools that are D-I in name only and this may cause them to accept reality and join a division with more similar peers.


I agree with the too many D1 schools playing athletics part.

Education still has too many institutions IMO and some could go away. Schools have a few hundred students or barely 1K do not need to be around. Bring more tech schools for choice. Plus schools can add curriculum if there is such a "demand".

ND is a great example. No way does there need to be 11 state supported higher ed schools. Total waste of resources.

[ASU33]

I agree with the too many D1 schools playing athletics part.

Education still has too many institutions IMO and some could go away. Schools have a few hundred students or barely 1K do not need to be around. Bring more tech schools for choice. Plus schools can add curriculum if there is such a "demand".

ND is a great example. No way does there need to be 11 state supported higher ed schools. Total waste of resources.

I never knew that there were so many colleges in North Dakota!

[walliver]

I saw that Jacksonville State has temporarily sent players home from camp for 5 days with plans to return (It was a tweet so I don't have a link). If it is true, and I believe the source to be reliable, it is the stupidest thing I have seen. Who sends players from a control environment to go home and bring as much COVID back to campus as possible.

[downbythebeach]

Who is even still left?

[McNeese72]

Who is even still left?

The Southland still hasn't decided. But the AD's had a virtual meeting yesterday and the Presidents have one today. So, I wouldn't be surprised if we hear something one way or another this evening or tomorrow.

Doc

[Laker]

Who is even still left?

From Reddit CFB this morning.

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/117655802_10158568562784699_3549410208064683050_n. png?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=6FEFca1aRKUAX9rfvlU&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=d4ae9c4245491e4bf5930fa0dfd1b36c&oe=5F599372

[ST_Lawson]

Big South is out now as of this morning.

[Laker]

And as soon as I post, the Big South is moving football to the spring.

http://bigsouthsports.com/news/2020/8/11/general-big-south-announces-decision-on-fall-sport-seasons.aspx

[ST_Lawson]

And as soon as I post, the Big South is moving football to the spring.

http://bigsouthsports.com/news/2020/8/11/general-big-south-announces-decision-on-fall-sport-seasons.aspx

Although apparently they are (at this point) allowed to schedule up to 4 OOC games in the fall, which UNA has said that they want to do. I haven't checked on the other Big South members who haven't already said they aren't playing in the fall though. WIU was supposed to open the season hosting UNA, so...that's a thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://twitter.com/CraigHaley/status/1293551695289622531

[bluehenbillk]

So here's the big question that is coming up...if they play on the spring there's no fall football in 2021 either?

Nothing but strong sentiment dismissing the idea that college athletes would play two seasons within the same calendar year. If that's the case just scrap the spring plan & play September of 2021.

[Mocs123]

From what I hear Chattanooga and tUNA's game is still on this year (as of now).

I agree that if it comes to no fall 2020 season and we can't have both a spring 2021 season and a fall 2021 season, cut our losses and just play in the fall next year. That's precisely why I think we should play what we can this fall as I am very skeptical of a spring season.

This of course assumes the players really want to play this fall, which I assume they do. I know my son and his HS team really want to play.

[walliver]

From what I hear Chattanooga and tUNA's game is still on this year (as of now).

I agree that if it comes to no fall 2020 season and we can't have both a spring 2021 season and a fall 2021 season, cut our losses and just play in the fall next year. That's precisely why I think we should play what we can this fall as I am very skeptical of a spring season.

This of course assumes the players really want to play this fall, which I assume they do. I know my son and his HS team really want to play.

Realistically, a spring season would likely only be 4-6 games, replacing spring practice.

I suspect there will be no spring season. Even with an effective vaccine later this year, it will probably be next summer before everyone is vaccinated and life normalizes. If there is not an effective vaccine, it would probably be Summer of 2022 before we see "normal" football.

[FUBeAR]

Realistically, a spring season would likely only be 4-6 games, replacing spring practice.

I suspect there will be no spring season. Even with an effective vaccine later this year, it will probably be next summer before everyone is vaccinated and life normalizes. If there is not an effective vaccine, it would probably be Summer of 2022 before we see "normal" football.
You think so?

I read that only 37% of Americans get Flu shots - which is not a vaccine

How’s that common cold vaccine comin’?

Or the one for herpes? We about ready with that AIDS vaccine?

My ears continue to overflow with urine, while people are telling me it’s a cooling, fresh spring shower.

[Mocs123]

You think so?

I read that only 37% of Americans get Flu shots - which is not a vaccine

How’s that common cold vaccine comin’?

Or the one for herpes? We about ready with that AIDS vaccine?

My ears continue to overflow with urine, while people are telling me it’s a cooling, fresh spring shower.

I'm not a medical doctor - far from it, so my understanding may not be correct, but I've heard that COVID is possible to get twice (again the sources may not be correct), and the way I understand it, if you can get it twice, the virus must mutate, and a vaccine would not work. We're pumping a bunch of money into a vaccine though so medical professionals must think there is hope.

[FUBeAR]

We're pumping a bunch of money into a vaccine though so medical professionals must think there is hope.

https://i.imgur.com/1LYg7dN.gif

[BEAR]

We have reached the final four:

OVC
Southern
Southland


There are also four independents.

Have any of the independents officially shut down?


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I think we are down to 3 conference now???

[walliver]

You think so?

I read that only 37% of Americans get Flu shots - which is not a vaccine

How’s that common cold vaccine comin’?

Or the one for herpes? We about ready with that AIDS vaccine?

My ears continue to overflow with urine, while people are telling me it’s a cooling, fresh spring shower.

The "flu shot" actually is a vaccine. It is just provides short acting immunity and every year they have to guess which of the hundreds of flu viruses against which to inoculate.

So far, their appears to be a consistent protein on the COVID-19 virus which is stable and is the target of most vaccines. It appears that two shots will be needed, and it wouldn't surprise me if a COVID booster gets included with each flu shot. Previous corona virus vaccines haven't shown great longevity (one reason there is no cold vaccine). A vaccine won't wipe out the virus but will allow people to get out and about with less risk.

[FUBeAR]

The "flu shot" actually is a vaccine. It is just provides short acting immunity and every year they have to guess which of the hundreds of flu viruses against which to inoculate.

So far, their appears to be a consistent protein on the COVID-19 virus which is stable and is the target of most vaccines. It appears that two shots will be needed, and it wouldn't surprise me if a COVID booster gets included with each flu shot. Previous corona virus vaccines haven't shown great longevity (one reason there is no cold vaccine). A vaccine won't wipe out the virus but will allow people to get out and about with less risk.
Yep - you are right about the flu shot being a vaccine as described - shoddy research on FUBeAR’s part. It is a vaccine, but certainly not in the same category as we think about polio or smallpox vaccines - 1 shot...vaccinated for life...right..pretty much?

...37% may be inaccurate also. That is ‘17-‘18 data https://www.cdc.gov/flu/fluvaxview/coverage-1718estimates.htm - May have increased since.

Still don’t believe we’ll have one & that it will be broadly available & used...for...a while...or never.

[Mocs123]

The reason the flu vaccine doesn't work for life is that the flu virus changes continuously and isn't the same from year to year. The same is true of the common cold, hence why nobody has ever bothered to create a vaccine for it.

[Hammersmith]

I never knew that there were so many colleges in North Dakota!

2 research schools (NDSU, UND)
4 bachelor's schools(most offer a couple master's degrees)
5 community/technical/associate's schools (all 5 try to do everything)

Too many in every category, but most are written into the state constitution and impossible to get rid of. The only state school that has ever been closed was a small one that was already struggling, and then its primary building was hit by lighting and burned down. We were almost to the same point fairly recently with one or two of the bachelor's schools, but then the oil boom happened and the state pumped money into those schools to address the long time maintenance shortfalls.


(also 1 private master's university, 1 private bachelor's university, 2 tribal colleges, and 1 bible school)

[Hammersmith]

The reason the flu vaccine doesn't work for life is that the flu virus changes continuously and isn't the same from year to year. The same is true of the common cold, hence why nobody has ever bothered to create a vaccine for it.

Also, most(all?) vaccines lose effectiveness over time just because of a person's immune system. There's a reason for needing booster shots of different vaccines.

An interesting study was done fairly recently comparing the immunity lengths of the chicken pox vaccine in the US and Japan. Exact same vaccine, but people in Japan were immune for years longer. Why? The chicken pox virus is still fairly common in Japan, so people's immune systems there were getting provoked regularly and producing new antibodies. But chicken pox has been mostly wiped out in the US, and a person can go for many years without encountering it in the wild. Because of that, the immunity fades away faster and booster shots are needed more frequently.

So it's not just mutations that cause vaccination effectiveness to fade.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I saw that Jacksonville State has temporarily sent players home from camp for 5 days with plans to return (It was a tweet so I don't have a link). If it is true, and I believe the source to be reliable, it is the stupidest thing I have seen. Who sends players from a control environment to go home and bring as much COVID back to campus as possible.

Maybe you did not want to do this but you can add tweets on AGS if you wish to. Here is a link in the "Comments" section describing how to do so:

https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?212615-How-do-you-embed-tweets-photos-into-posts&p=2673216&viewfull=1#post2673216

[McNeese72]

The reason the flu vaccine doesn't work for life is that the flu virus changes continuously and isn't the same from year to year. The same is true of the common cold, hence why nobody has ever bothered to create a vaccine for it.

This is true. The Flu vaccine created every year is just a best guess at what the flu will be like that year. Some years they guess better than others and it is more effective than other years.

Doc

[McNeese72]

The reason the flu vaccine doesn't work for life is that the flu virus changes continuously and isn't the same from year to year. The same is true of the common cold, hence why nobody has ever bothered to create a vaccine for it.

Also, the "common cold" is caused by several different virus not just one. Google what causes the common cold.

Doc

[McNeese72]

Okay, the rumors today, so far, is that the Southland has postponed the conference season until spring but will allow nonconference games in the fall. One post I saw is that they will allow up to 5 nonconference games in the fall and have 6 conference games in the spring but I don't know the veracity of any of it.

All, I know for sure, is that McNeese started preseason workouts again to day.

Doc

[walliver]

Maybe you did not want to do this but you can add tweets on AGS if you wish to. Here is a link in the "Comments" section describing how to do so:

https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?212615-How-do-you-embed-tweets-photos-into-posts&p=2673216&viewfull=1#post2673216

Unfortunately, my work computer blocks twitter so it's not easy to do.

It also means that when others post tweets, I have to grab my cellphone to see what it is.

[ST_Lawson]

Unfortunately, my work computer blocks twitter so it's not easy to do.

It also means that when others post tweets, I have to grab my cellphone to see what it is.

I....uh....wow.....ok (to the blocking twitter thing).
I'll do my best to include a plain text version of any tweets that I post in the future, and it'd probably be helpful if everyone else adopted a similar policy.

Like, you can just post the text of the tweet, and then the link. Kinda like this...

Twitter Post:

Source: D2 Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference is canceling the fall season later today.
https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1293924641661161472

[Laker]

I....uh....wow.....ok (to the blocking twitter thing).
I'll do my best to include a plain text version of any tweets that I post in the future, and it'd probably helpful if everyone else adopted a similar policy.

Like, you can just post the text of the tweet, and then the link. Kinda like this...

I just got the word on this minutes ago. No college sports anywhere around me all fall and half the winter. This sucks.

[McNeese72]

Southland Conference statement on fall sports:

https://www.southland.org/news/2020/8/13/football-southland-conference-postpones-league-competition-in-fall-semester.aspx

Looks like non-conference games allowed.

Doc

[McNeese72]

Okay, it's official. McNeese is done until the spring.

"August 13, 2020
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

McNEESE ELECTS TO SUSPEND FALL INTERCOLLEGIATE COMPETITION

LAKE CHARLES – McNeese State University has elected to suspend all intercollegiate sports competition for the fall semester with an intent to play in the spring, Interim Director of Athletics Heath Schroyer announced on Thursday.

This follows an announcement made Thursday morning by the Southland Conference Board of Directors to suspend all league-only competition for its schools in the sports of football, volleyball, women’s soccer and cross country with an intent to play conference competition in the spring semester and compete for championships.

Other Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) conferences that have altered or suspended their fall competition season includes the Big Sky, Big South, Big West, Colonial, Ivy League, Mid-Eastern Athletic, Missouri Valley Football League, Northeast, Patriot, Pioneer Football League and the Southwestern Athletic Conference.

The vote by the Southland Conference gave member institutions the option of participating in limited non-conference competition in the fall, but McNeese is among the majority of league institutions in Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas that are expected to postpone all intercollegiate contests this fall.

“After consulting with (McNeese President) Dr. (Daryl) Burckel and numerous medical professionals, we feel like this is the right decision,” said Interim Director of Athletics Heath Schroyer. “We are student-athlete centered and the health and safety of all of our student-athletes is first and foremost.”

Though teams will not participate in outside competition, student-athletes will remain engaged in team activities in preparation of the spring season.

“This decision impacts many people including our fans, alumni, marching band, dance team and cheerleaders, but it is the right decision. This an unprecedented time but I couldn’t be more excited about our future,” said Schroyer.

Southland Conference athletic directors are beginning discussions for a return to competition in the spring.

The McNeese Ticket Office is working on information regarding season tickets and will release the details as they become available.






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[ursus arctos horribilis]

Unfortunately, my work computer blocks twitter so it's not easy to do.

It also means that when others post tweets, I have to grab my cellphone to see what it is.

Wee, we tried. xlolx

Damn work!

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I....uh....wow.....ok (to the blocking twitter thing).
I'll do my best to include a plain text version of any tweets that I post in the future, and it'd probably helpful if everyone else adopted a similar policy.

Like, you can just post the text of the tweet, and then the link. Kinda like this...

Twitter Post:

https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1293924641661161472

That's a pretty good solution. I'll try and keep that one in mind going forward too.

[dgtw]

OVC
Southern


Down to three independents as well if they even have a schedule left.

Edit...I just saw Dixie State has cancelled for the fall. That leaves Presbyterian and Robert Morris.


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[Mocs123]

SoCon is out. Schools may schedule non conference competition

[dgtw]

The OVC is the last survivor. Congratulations(?) to them.


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[Hammersmith]

The OVC is the last survivor. Congratulations(?) to them.


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For another few hours until it becomes official.
https://247sports.com/Article/ohio-valley-conference-postpone-fall-2020-sports-season--150251102/

[mvfcfan]

The OVC is the last survivor. Congratulations(?) to them.


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Lol I told you all the OVC would be the last one.

[FUBeAR]

Lol I told you all the OVC would be the last one.
Since APSU is the reigning OVC Champ & AutoBid Representative, wouldn’t that make the Gov’s the 2020 FCS National Champions. It was settled via playoff kinda, sorta.

[SUPharmacist]

Since APSU is the reigning OVC Champ & AutoBid Representative, wouldn’t that make the Gov’s the 2020 FCS National Champions. It was settled via playoff kinda, sorta.


Only if they actually play a game.

[OhioHen]

Only if they actually play a game.

At last check, there were 34 FCS teams with at least one game still listed on their schedules at https://fbschedules.com/ which is updated fairly quickly once changes are announced.

This includes optional non-conference games for schools whose conferences have postponed but will allow them to play non-conference games. Some of those games were scheduled AFTER the conference announcements came out.

[cx500d]

Since APSU is the reigning OVC Champ & AutoBid Representative, wouldn’t that make the Gov’s the 2020 FCS National Champions. It was settled via playoff kinda, sorta.
Only one team has played a game and won in 2020. That team is the defacto champion

[bluedog]

I think we are down to 3 conference now???.https://media2.giphy.com/media/3oEjHAUOqG3lSS0f1C/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd7v7d1yaluspdia7khnwnae9eeftdn iu3zm5fiy4go&rid=giphy.gif

[OhioHen]

At last check, there were 34 FCS teams with at least one game still listed on their schedules at https://fbschedules.com/ which is updated fairly quickly once changes are announced.

This includes optional non-conference games for schools whose conferences have postponed but will allow them to play non-conference games. Some of those games were scheduled AFTER the conference announcements came out.

And in just a couple hours - down to 28 (if you count Tarleton State in their first transition year).

The average number of games is just over 4. Only the 9 OVC teams have at least 8 games currently scheduled.

[OhioHen]

OVC announces postponement of conference season. Like several other conferences, schools may play non-conference games.

https://fbschedules.com/ohio-valley-conference-postpones-2020-conference-football-season/

[Catbooster]

This must be a boring year to be an Athletic Director. Lots fewer sporting events going on - probably not much for them to do. xthumbsupx

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Looks like a few thought I was serious here - I'll try to make it clearer when I'm being facetious. xpeacex