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Gil Dobie
June 19th, 2007, 11:23 AM
Lots of buzz around Minnesota yesterday. Best rumor heard was Garnett to Boston for 4 players and the #5 pick in the draft.

I Bleed Purple
June 19th, 2007, 03:25 PM
They have to do something. They're staring last place in the NW division right in the face in the next couple of years. McHale is a bad GM. They'll be the Lions of the NBA soon. They need to start to rebuild around Foye.

UNHWildCats
June 19th, 2007, 03:38 PM
Boston would be stupid to make this trade and if they did, Ainge is likely to be thrown off a cliff

dgreco
June 19th, 2007, 04:45 PM
i would do it as long as they dont have the give up Al Jefferson and of course Pierce. I would give up pretty much everything else. That allows 3 good years to go for a championship and puts them back to where they are going to end up with building young talent again. Except from 3 Years we may see a Rondo, Green, and Jefferson starts having played with KG and PP.

IowaBisonToo
June 19th, 2007, 04:51 PM
They have to do something. They're staring last place in the NW division right in the face in the next couple of years. McHale is a bad GM. They'll be the Lions of the NBA soon. They need to start to rebuild around Foye.

Couldn't agree more. I for one would like to see Garnett traded - not because I don't like him, but because I'd like him to go to a championship team. The guy deserves it. They had their shot a few years ago in the West Finals and couldn't get it done.

Somebody said if a deal was made, they ought to throw Ainge off a cliff. They ought to throw McHale off a cliff . . . with a noose around his neck.

Eyes of Old Main
June 19th, 2007, 08:28 PM
Garnett deserves a shot at a championship, but he's always been kind of against being traded out of Minnesota. Boston needs lots of help and the addition of Garnett couldn't hurt, but I don't think he'd make them championship caliber either and moving that kind of salary is very difficult in the NBA.

TheBisonator
June 19th, 2007, 08:34 PM
I dunno, I wanna see Garnett win a ring here in Minnesota. He's already got a developing young core of players to work around. Randy Foye is an EXCELLENT player. Trenton Hassel is a time-tested veteran as well. I think trading a few bit players (Griffin, Madsen, etc.) for someone who can be added to the core (not even complement KG, but just be another solid starter) would go a long way. I've personally met KG twice. He told me he loves it in Minnesota. He says the people are friendlier than anywhere else. He's made a lot of close friends in the Twin Cities as well. I think he would be very reluctant to be traded.

Cobblestone
June 20th, 2007, 09:33 AM
Garnett would look great in Celtic green. That's a lot of players to give up. I agree about not wanting to give up Jefferson and/or Pierce. So, depending on who the Celtics have to give up I am not sure about this trade. Fear not folks, Ainge will find a way to screw this up; he always does.

IowaBisonToo
June 20th, 2007, 09:42 AM
Oh, I understand that KG loves MN . . . I mean, who wouldn't?xthumbsupx xnodx However, if management wants to move a player, they're going to unless said player completely refuses - and maybe KG is such a player. I think Foye is great and Hassel is, too. I just think that with McHale their, it's not going to happen for KG. They needed to keep Flip and can Kevin rather than the other way around. Flip is a good coach. What he needed was the right personnel to get the job done. He had it with Spree and the rest of that crew, but it was the players that couldn't get it done that year. Pretty difficult team to beat, too (that years Lakers).

dgreco
June 20th, 2007, 09:44 AM
He has to get rid of a certain group of players either Ratliff and Wally and some young guys, or Either Or and a lot of young guys. None of the "good" young guys have a pay to match the trade. The only one that would add some money is Delonte West, and whiel I like the guy. I have meet him and he is a cool guy, I wouldn't mind giving him up. I would also be partial towards Gomes, but I just think he is awesome, not really the superstar type.

Col Hogan
June 20th, 2007, 09:55 AM
I think Garnett only has one year left till he can opt out of his contract...

The Celtics would be stupid to give up anything for Garnett unless they get a contract extension with Garnett prior to the trade...

813Jag
June 20th, 2007, 10:16 AM
I think Garnett only has one year left till he can opt out of his contract...

The Celtics would be stupid to give up anything for Garnett unless they get a contract extension with Garnett prior to the trade...
I agree, if they only have him for one year then thet're not getting anything out of that deal. I don't see him winning a title in his first year in Boston.

chrisattsu
June 20th, 2007, 10:33 AM
Ehhh... He could always come to San Antonio to retire like so many other players.

If he bought into the system (meaning becoming a role-player) and played backup up to Tim Duncan, there would be little drop off like we currently face bringing Oberto or Elson in.

813Jag
June 20th, 2007, 10:39 AM
Ehhh... He could always come to San Antonio to retire like so many other players.

If he bought into the system (meaning becoming a role-player) and played backup up to Tim Duncan, there would be little drop off like we currently face bringing Oberto or Elson in.
They could actually play at the same time. Garnett could play high and Duncan low. For the money he commands I'll doubt he'll be the 7th man.

UNHWildCats
June 20th, 2007, 01:03 PM
I think Garnett only has one year left till he can opt out of his contract...

The Celtics would be stupid to give up anything for Garnett unless they get a contract extension with Garnett prior to the trade...

If they could get him for say Wally and Ratliff and take on a smaller contract from Minn as well and then one of the kids and the 5 pick maybe cause if Garnett leaves after 1 year sthats $22 million under the cap Boston can go after younger marquee players.

I dont want Garnett long term hes past his prime... I dont want to become the NY Knicks....

Col Hogan
June 20th, 2007, 01:26 PM
If they could get him for say Wally and Ratliff and take on a smaller contract from Minn as well and then one of the kids and the 5 pick maybe cause if Garnett leaves after 1 year sthats $22 million under the cap Boston can go after younger marquee players.

I dont want Garnett long term hes past his prime... I dont want to become the NY Knicks....


xthumbsupx xlolx xnodx xthumbsupx xlolx xnodx xthumbsupx xlolx xnodx xthumbsupx xlolx xnodx

TheBisonator
June 20th, 2007, 04:59 PM
Ehhh... He could always come to San Antonio to retire like so many other players.

If he bought into the system (meaning becoming a role-player) and played backup up to Tim Duncan, there would be little drop off like we currently face bringing Oberto or Elson in.

KG would rather kill himself than play backup to Duncan. Both players are completely equal in level of play.

NoSpinZone
June 20th, 2007, 05:01 PM
Garnett/Pierce/Jefferson/West combo could probably make a run in the east even with two of their stars on the decline and a couple on the rise. That's not a bad core. I don't think Miami and Cleveland have that much depth. Detroit is getting older too.

On the other side Minn. would be stupid to take on Wally and Ratliff's contracts. That's $23 million for a couple of 30 something overrated players to begin with IMO. Garnett alone is doesn't make that and the fans would really be up in arms. The #5 pick is nice being one of the strongest drafts in a couple of decades but taking on $23 million for those players is like a ball and chain especially losing one of the top 5-10 players in the league to do so.

If I were McHale I would take some of the young cheap players like T. Allen, Gomez, Green, Rondo, even Telfair. I would take 4 of those and the #5 pick, but any deal with Ratliff or Wally would be off.

UNHWildCats
June 20th, 2007, 05:17 PM
Garnett/Pierce/Jefferson/West combo could probably make a run in the east even with two of their stars on the decline and a couple on the rise. That's not a bad core. I don't think Miami and Cleveland have that much depth. Detroit is getting older too.

On the other side Minn. would be stupid to take on Wally and Ratliff's contracts. That's $23 million for a couple of 30 something overrated players to begin with IMO. Garnett alone is doesn't make that and the fans would really be up in arms. The #5 pick is nice being one of the strongest drafts in a couple of decades but taking on $23 million for those players is like a ball and chain especially losing one of the top 5-10 players in the league to do so.

If I were McHale I would take some of the young cheap players like T. Allen, Gomez, Green, Rondo, even Telfair. I would take 4 of those and the #5 pick, but any deal with Ratliff or Wally would be off.

Money wise that wouldnt work. Aside from that theres no way Boston takes on his contract without unloading atleast 1 of the 3 large contracts they have.

I think they more likely scenerio is Shawn Marion to Boston and Ganrnet to Phoenix and Ratliff to Minn and then younger players in the mix from Bostona and Phoenix and draft picks.

NoSpinZone
June 21st, 2007, 08:12 AM
Money wise that wouldnt work. Aside from that theres no way Boston takes on his contract without unloading atleast 1 of the 3 large contracts they have.

I think they more likely scenerio is Shawn Marion to Boston and Ganrnet to Phoenix and Ratliff to Minn and then younger players in the mix from Bostona and Phoenix and draft picks.

I suppose it could work if they waived thoses players and someone was stupid enough to pick them up (which is unlikely) so that said good point. I just can't see shipping Kevin Garnett out of town for Theo Ratliff under any circumstance. Even if his contract was only a year, what a waste of 12 million dollars. If I were a fan I would never go back to a game if that happened.

youwouldno
June 21st, 2007, 08:17 AM
There is zero chance Garnett goes to Boston without Jefferson being one of the players coming back, especially since the Wolves would have to take on Ratliff who is hurt and horrible and laughably overpaid (of course being overpaid is a requirement for all Wolves players). I don't see it happening.

There really is nothing the Wolves can do, not in that conference. It's hopeless.

dgreco
June 21st, 2007, 09:00 AM
ratliff is an expiring contract which would be good for the wolves. The Celtics are over the cap and even with ratliff out they still would be so the celts would be happy moving him. Also Garnett has an option to opt out, but he has 24 million dollars, no one will give him that money so he really can't opt out of boston.

IowaBisonToo
June 21st, 2007, 09:06 AM
. . .
If I were McHale I would hang myself.

There, I fixed it for you NSZ.
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Ivytalk
June 21st, 2007, 10:07 AM
Trade Garnett to the Yankees for George Steinbrenner.

NorCalJack
June 21st, 2007, 10:52 AM
Minnesota trading for Ratliff would be a good thing. Ratliff has an insurance policy that if he is unable to play for an extended time, the insurance policy reimburses the team his salary during the time he did not play. He did not play for Boston last year and probably will not play this year either. Everyone wants Ratliff's contract xrulesx

NoSpinZone
June 21st, 2007, 12:56 PM
Minnesota trading for Ratliff would be a good thing. Ratliff has an insurance policy that if he is unable to play for an extended time, the insurance policy reimburses the team his salary during the time he did not play. He did not play for Boston last year and probably will not play this year either. Everyone wants Ratliff's contract xrulesx


Hmmm interesting. xcoffeex

TheBisonator
June 21st, 2007, 05:14 PM
Minnesota trading for Ratliff would be a good thing. Ratliff has an insurance policy that if he is unable to play for an extended time, the insurance policy reimburses the team his salary during the time he did not play. He did not play for Boston last year and probably will not play this year either. Everyone wants Ratliff's contract xrulesx

You guys are talking about Theo Ratliff, right??

UNHWildCats
June 21st, 2007, 05:39 PM
Garnetts agent said he dont want to play in Boston and if hes traded there he will leave next summer.

Thank god!

griz37
June 21st, 2007, 06:04 PM
Apparently he wants to play for Phoenix.

CollegeSportsInfo
June 22nd, 2007, 05:46 PM
Apparently he wants to play for Phoenix.

Boston was never an option...KMc knew that but wanted to push through with the proposal. Garnett has wanted Phoenix and Phoenix wants KG. The hold-up has been Minnesota holding out for Amare while Phoenix is sticking with Marion as the centerpiece.

AZGrizFan
June 22nd, 2007, 05:59 PM
Boston was never an option...KMc knew that but wanted to push through with the proposal. Garnett has wanted Phoenix and Phoenix wants KG. The hold-up has been Minnesota holding out for Amare while Phoenix is sticking with Marion as the centerpiece.

I'll say it again:

If the Suns trade Amare for KG, I'm officially DONE as a Suns/NBA fan.

That trade makes absolutely NO sense. xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx

NoSpinZone
June 18th, 2008, 12:17 AM
Boston would be stupid to make this trade and if they did, Ainge is likely to be thrown off a cliff


xthumbsupx Nice sig

UNHWildCats
June 18th, 2008, 12:20 AM
lol :p made it with about 5 mins left :)

DSUrocks07
June 18th, 2008, 12:21 AM
xthumbsupx Nice sig

Great find xthumbsupx, funny how things change quickly eh WildCats? xsmiley_wix

UNHWildCats
June 18th, 2008, 12:32 AM
Great find xthumbsupx, funny how things change quickly eh WildCats? xsmiley_wix
I stand by my original thoughts on the trade.... I never disputed it being good short term.

AZGrizFan
June 18th, 2008, 12:35 AM
I stand by my original thoughts on the trade.... I never disputed it being good short term.

Jesus. Some people are just never fckin' happy. xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx

You'd bitch if you were hung with a new rope.


Danny Ainge is a genius. xnodx

UNHWildCats
June 18th, 2008, 12:36 AM
Jesus. Some people are just never fckin' happy. xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx xsmhx

You'd bitch if you were hung with a new rope.


Danny Ainge is a genius. xnodx
can i have a hung asian guy instead? lol

AZGrizFan
June 18th, 2008, 12:37 AM
can i have a hung asian guy instead? lol


Noted that you're not disputing that Danny Ainge is a genius. xthumbsupx xwhistlex

UNH_Alum_In_CT
June 18th, 2008, 12:48 AM
I stand by my original thoughts on the trade.... I never disputed it being good short term.

Good gawd man, they hadn't won a championship in 22 years. Don't you think a championship is worth a struggle or two down the road? xconfusedx

Even with the Big Three, I didn't think the Celtics at the beginning of the season had enough to win the championship especially since point guard was such a huge question. You should be showering accolades on Ainge not only for getting Garnet and Allen, but also for draft choices and free agent signings.

UNHWildCats
June 18th, 2008, 12:52 AM
Good gawd man, they hadn't won a championship in 22 years. Don't you think a championship is worth a struggle or two down the road? xconfusedx

Even with the Big Three, I didn't think the Celtics at the beginning of the season had enough to win the championship especially since point guard was such a huge question. You should be showering accolades on Ainge not only for getting Garnet and Allen, but also for draft choices and free agent signings.
depends on hiow bad those3 struggles are... though if they get another trophy or two before Garnett and Allen cant walk anymore i may call it a great deal

AZGrizFan
June 18th, 2008, 01:13 AM
depends on hiow bad those3 struggles are... though if they get another trophy or two before Garnett and Allen cant walk anymore i may call it a great deal

Keep it in perspective, Travis. There's a million NBA fans of other teams out there that would sell their soul for ONE championship. The Celtics have something like 17. You fans are spoiled. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. xwhistlex xnonox

UNHWildCats
June 18th, 2008, 01:15 AM
Keep it in perspective, Travis. There's a million NBA fans of other teams out there that would sell their soul for ONE championship. The Celtics have something like 17. You fans are spoiled. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. xwhistlex xnonox
ya but what umm only 4 from my life time lol

UMass922
June 18th, 2008, 01:27 AM
depends on hiow bad those3 struggles are... though if they get another trophy or two before Garnett and Allen cant walk anymore i may call it a great deal

You're going way too far out of your way trying to justify your original opinion. UNH_Alum and AZGriz have it right. Just happily admit you were wrong and enjoy the championship.

Peems
June 18th, 2008, 01:36 AM
The best example is the Heat. The pundits and fans agree it was a great for them to get Shaq and win the championship for the struggles they now have. But imagine if they hadn't. Odom, Butler and Wade would be pretty good

813Jag
June 18th, 2008, 08:03 AM
The best example is the Heat. The pundits and fans agree it was a great for them to get Shaq and win the championship for the struggles they now have. But imagine if they hadn't. Odom, Butler and Wade would be pretty good
They had that team, with Wade's injuries, Odom couldn't carry that team.

gmoney55
June 18th, 2008, 08:44 AM
The best example is the Heat. The pundits and fans agree it was a great for them to get Shaq and win the championship for the struggles they now have. But imagine if they hadn't. Odom, Butler and Wade would be pretty good

I'd take the one championship and couple years of struggle over a pretty good team for a long stretch all the time.