Ivy League....

[Schism55]

https://twitter.com/TheAthletic/status/1280146987602415619

[bulldog10jw]

This has been pretty much a foregone conclusion for a week.

It's better than outright cancellation and screwing the seniors.

[Professor Chaos]

The logistics of having two football seasons in one calendar year would be challenging but it would certainly be preferable to no football season in the 2020/21 academic year for everyone involved I'd think. I'd suspect almost all FCS level conferences will follow suit unless they can get students on campus and fans in attendance this fall (which seems pretty unlikely at this point).

[Sader87]

Jumping the gun a bit, but I'm wondering if a lot of FCS schools will be able to do this (Spring actual season football) given the logisitics: practice field availabity, locker rooms and countless other issues that will pop up etc?

[Anthony215]

Harvard has just announced that the fall semester will be strictly online no in person classes and in D2 the SIAC has cancelled all fall sports but left the door open for institutions to still compete as independents for the Fall 2020 season if they elect to go that route ..

[Go Green]

Jumping the gun a bit, but I'm wondering if a lot of FCS schools will be able to do this (Spring actual season football) given the logisitics: practice field availabity, locker rooms and countless other issues that will pop up etc?

Should not be too much of a problem for Dartmouth.

I'd imagine that places in cities (among others, Fordham, Columbia, Penn, Georgetown) would be tougher.

[DFW HOYA]

I'd imagine that places in cities (among others, Fordham, Columbia, Penn, Georgetown) would be tougher.

A total of 22 of Georgetown's (soon to be 30) teams either play in the spring or fall. Try running practice and gameday schedules of football, field hockey, men's lacrosse, women's lacrosse, and a rescheduled soccer game or two on Cooper Field in March.

[BEAR]

Wait. Football in the Northeast in January and February? Isn't it snowladen by then?

I lived in Maine for 5 years. January is NO time to hike a football. xlolx

[walliver]

The Ivies mostly just play with themselves, so rescheduling is not an issue. It probably wouldn't be difficult for the Pioneer League either.

For most other FCS schools, there are a lot of OOC contracted games as well as money games to deal with.

Another problem with spring football is that if schools aren't physically open this fall, basketball can't start until January, moving March Madness into April. To get in 11 games before June, football would have to start in February(or early March) just like baseball. There would likely be no playoffs. I imagine outdoor football in the Dakotas in February would be quite an experience. I suspect football would be a shortened 8 game schedule.

[Go Green]

A total of 22 of Georgetown's (soon to be 30) teams either play in the spring or fall. Try running practice and gameday schedules of football, field hockey, men's lacrosse, women's lacrosse, and a rescheduled soccer game or two on Cooper Field in March.

It's been a while since I was on campus. Did they ever clean up the old Kehoe Field on top of Yates? It was in serious disrepair the last I saw it...

[NY Crusader 2010]

The Ivies mostly just play with themselves, so rescheduling is not an issue. It probably wouldn't be difficult for the Pioneer League either.

For most other FCS schools, there are a lot of OOC contracted games as well as money games to deal with.

Another problem with spring football is that if schools aren't physically open this fall, basketball can't start until January, moving March Madness into April. To get in 11 games before June, football would have to start in February(or early March) just like baseball. There would likely be no playoffs. I imagine outdoor football in the Dakotas in February would be quite an experience. I suspect football would be a shortened 8 game schedule.

Every Ivy League team plays 3 non-conference games, like just about every other FCS school. Maybe you have the league confused with the NESCAC, a D-III conference of liberal arts schools that plays an 8-game conference only schedule.

[bonarae]

Every Ivy League team plays 3 non-conference games, like just about every other FCS school. Maybe you have the league confused with the NESCAC, a D-III conference of liberal arts schools that plays an 8-game conference only schedule.

But then, I think there is a reason why the Ivies are ducking the likes of MVFC and Big South schools is that the former's OOC schedules are spaced out. I prefer to have them play straight OOC to make their schedules more attractive and competitive.

[DFW HOYA]

It's been a while since I was on campus. Did they ever clean up the old Kehoe Field on top of Yates? It was in serious disrepair the last I saw it...

The roof was repaired but it is no longer regulation for any teams and is basically recreational space at this point.

https://live.staticflickr.com/4120/4767521241_f5dde918a8_n.jpg

[Go Green]

The roof was repaired but it is no longer regulation for any teams and is basically recreational space at this point.

https://live.staticflickr.com/4120/4767521241_f5dde918a8_n.jpg

Good to hear!

Surely that can be used for practice space for teams if/when everything gets pushed to Spring... The club/recreational teams can do something else.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile... Cornell is still going all in on in-person classes...

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/07/01/cornell-researchers-say-person-semester-university-safer-online-one?utm_source=morning_brew

[Go Green]

Meanwhile... Cornell is still going all in on in-person classes...

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/07/01/cornell-researchers-say-person-semester-university-safer-online-one?utm_source=morning_brew

Honestly, if things work out well at Cornell this fall, maybe the other Ivies allow more students (athletes) back on campus for the spring and sports go forward.

If things go poorly at Cornell, then they may be closed entirely for the spring.

[Ivytalk]

Honestly, if things work out well at Cornell this fall, maybe the other Ivies allow more students (athletes) back on campus for the spring and sports go forward.

If things go poorly at Cornell, then they may be closed entirely for the spring.
Motel 6 University always was a trailblazer.xcoffeex

[WWII]

Motel 6 University always was a trailblazer.xcoffeex

ouch!

[Gil Dobie]

Ivy might be the leaders in moving football to the Spring. Rumors swirling.

[Laker]

D3 MIT to only allow seniors on campus, cancel fall sports.

https://thetech.com/2020/07/07/fall-details-only-seniors

[Go Green]

D3 MIT to only allow seniors on campus, cancel fall sports.

https://thetech.com/2020/07/07/fall-details-only-seniors

That's indeed what the announcement says.

I can only assume that the use of the word "cancel" means that they won't even try to postpone sports for the spring...

:(

[bonarae]

An opinion piece...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/Sports/ncaabk/ivy-league-moving-fall-sports-to-spring-may-be-a-sign-of-things-to-come-for-college-football/ar-BB16rj6r?ocid=sf

Also... will this recruit be forced to move down to D-III or the NAIA?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2020/07/07/cornell-football-commit-nate-panza-racial-slur-scholarship-revoked/5389213002/

[Go Green]

Also... will this recruit be forced to move down to D-III or the NAIA?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2020/07/07/cornell-football-commit-nate-panza-racial-slur-scholarship-revoked/5389213002/

As far as I could tell, Cornell was his best football offer.

So if he ends up playing for a lower-division school, it may be for reasons other than character-related.

[walliver]

As far as I could tell, Cornell was his best football offer.

So if he ends up playing for a lower-division school, it may be for reasons other than character-related.

No matter where he goes, except possibly Liberty, there will be some SJW's who will hound him.

[Laker]

Anyone know what time the today that the Ivy is going to make their announcement?

[Go Green]

Anyone know what time the today that the Ivy is going to make their announcement?

Big Green Alert predicted later in the day, but in time for the evening news. Probably mid-to-late afternoon.

http://biggreenalertblog.blogspot.com/2020/07/and-decision-about-fall-sports-is.html

[Laker]

Big Green Alert predicted later in the day, but in time for the evening news. Probably mid-to-late afternoon.

http://biggreenalertblog.blogspot.com/2020/07/and-decision-about-fall-sports-is.html

Thanks!

[DFW HOYA]

Big Green Alert predicted later in the day, but in time for the evening news. Probably mid-to-late afternoon.


Evening news...I thought you were going to say "evening newspapers"...

[veinup]

No matter where he goes, except possibly Liberty, there will be some SJW's who will hound him.

don’t ya just wish me and my SJW friends would leave people who freely say “n-i-g-g-e-r” alone? we can be real jerks.

[Sitting Bull]

Ivy might be the leaders in moving football to the Spring. Rumors swirling.

You are a leader only if others follow you.

Sorry, in the world of college football, no one is taking cues from the Ivy League.

[Bisonoline]

don’t ya just wish me and my SJW friends would leave people who freely say “n-i-g-g-e-r” alone? we can be real jerks.

Kind of jump the shark there. xrolleyesx

[Go Green]

You are a leader only if others follow you.

Sorry, in the world of college football, no one is taking cues from the Ivy League.

We will see.

The rest of the world followed our lead in college basketball...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/sports/ivy-league-basketball-tournament-coronavirus.html

[DFW HOYA]

We will see.
The rest of the world followed our lead in college basketball...


Uh....not really. Conference tournaments were still going on when the NBA called the question and conferences responded.

[gumby013]

Fall Sports Canceled.

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1280955217677344770

[Go Green]

Fall Sports Canceled.

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1280955217677344770

Not even postponed? Damn...

We will see what the official announcement is... :( :( :(

[dbackjon]

Ivy League: No Football

Certain AGS and National Pollsters: Includes at least 3 Ivy League Teams in the top 25

[kdinva]

Ivy League: No Football

Certain AGS and National Pollsters: Includes at least 3 Ivy League Teams in the top 25

xlolx xnodx

especially AGS folks who log on once every 213 days....

[dgtw]

So I guess that pretty much wipes out “preseason” basketball and cuts back other sports that overlap New Year.


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[DFW HOYA]

Not a mention of non-conference opponents. They've been discarded.

Perhaps these schools should respond in kind when these Ivy schools come looking for filling future schedules.

[kdinva]

Not a mention of non-conference opponents. They've been discarded.

Perhaps these schools should respond in kind when these Ivy schools come looking for filling future schedules.

I've already tweeted out that VMI should replace their 2020 & 2024 Princeton games with Lehigh....it'll fit.

[Laker]

Both Army and Navy now have an open spot on their football schedules.

No, I don't think they will change it to a home and home series.

[DFW HOYA]

Are Ivy presidents allowed any form of dissent if they do not go along with what the H-Y-P brahmin say?


If Dartmouth's Phil Hanlon stood up and said "I've had enough of you Bacow, and I'm not signing off on yet another CYA move out of Cambridge!", do they let him speak, or simply take away his key to the washroom at the Harvard Club of New York and call the trustees in Hanover to have him forcibly removed?

[aceinthehole]

With the Patriot League almost certainly to follow, a few Northeastern FBS games are now available:

9/4 at Army (Bucknell)
9/12 at Hawaii (Fordham)
9/12 at Navy (Lafayette)
9/19 at Syracuse (Colgate)
10/10 at Army (Princeton)
10/31 at Boston College (Holy Cross)

I'm hoping CCSU can swap out the game at Columbia with Army (10/10) or swap out the bye week go to Boston College (10/31).

Bret McMurphy is already tweeting that VMI is a possibility to replace Princeton as the Army opponent.

[WestCoastAggie]

I don't think the Ivy League will be the only conference to cancel or postpone fall sports.

[DFW HOYA]

With the Patriot League almost certainly to follow, a few Northeastern FBS games are now available:


The PL has to stop being the Ivy's..er, lapdog, or teams will start looking to leave.

[aceinthehole]

The PL has to stop being the Ivy's..er, lapdog, or teams will start looking to leave.

And go where?

There is no room in the CAA for anybody in the PL. Unless Georgetown or Fordham want to join the NEC, I don't see many options out there.

[bonarae]

Not a mention of non-conference opponents. They've been discarded.

Perhaps these schools should respond in kind when these Ivy schools come looking for filling future schedules.

And possibly hopefully diversify the footprint of FCS football this season, and possibly in the years to come.


Both Army and Navy now have an open spot on their football schedules.

No, I don't think they will change it to a home and home series.

Note to ourselves: we have seen Liberty and New Mexico State play TWICE in a season a few years ago.


The PL has to stop being the Ivy's..er, lapdog, or teams will start looking to leave.

I agree. PL has been copying the Ivies all along... how about the UAA in D-III? They copied the Ivy model and applied it to a multi-region approach.

[dgtw]

Can someone please post a list of the 24 Ivy OOC games that were cancelled?


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[DFW HOYA]

Can someone please post a list of the 24 Ivy OOC games that were cancelled?


http://www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/images/070820.jpg

[Laker]

Can someone please post a list of the 24 Ivy OOC games that were cancelled?

Brown

09/19 - Bryant (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/bryant/)
10/03 - at Rhode Island (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/rhode-island/)
10/10 - at Holy Cross (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/holy-cross/)

Columbia


09/19 - at Lehigh (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/lehigh/)
09/26 - at Georgetown (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/georgetown/)
10/10 - Central Connecticut (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/central-connecticut/)

Cornell


09/19 - Marist (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/marist/)
10/03 - at Bucknell (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/bucknell/)
10/17 - at Colgate (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/colgate/)

Dartmouth


09/19 - New Haven (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/new-haven/)
09/26 - at Towson (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/towson/)
10/17 - Marist (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/marist/)


Harvard


09/19 - Georgetown (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/georgetown/)
10/03 - Holy Cross (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/holy-cross/)
10/17 - at Lafayette (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/lafayette/)

Penn


09/19 - Bucknell (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/bucknell/)
09/26 - Lafayette (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/lafayette/)
10/10 - Sacred Heart (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/sacred-heart/)

Princeton

09/17 - at Stetson (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/stetson/)
09/24 - Lehigh (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/lehigh/)
10/08 - at Lafayette (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/lafayette/)

Yale


09/19 - at Holy Cross (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/holy-cross/)
10/03 - Lehigh (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/lehigh/)
10/17 - Richmond (https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/richmond/)

[RichH2]

The PL has to stop being the Ivy's..er, lapdog, or teams will start looking to leave.

An overstatement. Our start was indeed as the Ivy Lite partner for the IL. That stopped with schollies. Our vestiges are the AI and redshirting. The latter is more of a financial issue for a few schools. Our main recruiting opponents are no longer the Ivies. CAA the Academies and the MAC account for the majority of football offers. Hoyas and Bucknell heel the most closely to Ivy principles. Colgate Lehigh and Fordham much less to the old Ivy Lite days. Holy Cross a bit in between as of now. Lafayette will follow Lehigh's lead.

[NY Crusader 2010]

An overstatement. Our start was indeed as the Ivy Lite partner for the IL. That stopped with schollies. Our vestiges are the AI and redshirting. The latter is more of a financial issue for a few schools. Our main recruiting opponents are no longer the Ivies. CAA the Academies and the MAC account for the majority of football offers. Hoyas and Bucknell heel the most closely to Ivy principles. Colgate Lehigh and Fordham much less to the old Ivy Lite days. Holy Cross a bit in between as of now. Lafayette will follow Lehigh's lead.

A major issue with red-shirting in the PL is the fact that most of the league is composed of liberal arts colleges without grad programs. Ivy League no longer a recruiting opponent? The IL is CLEARLY getting better recruits if you look at the results of the past 6 seasons.

[dgtw]

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[DFW HOYA]

A major issue with red-shirting in the PL is the fact that most of the league is composed of liberal arts colleges without grad programs. Ivy League no longer a recruiting opponent? The IL is CLEARLY getting better recruits if you look at the results of the past 6 seasons.

Most? Which schools offer grad programs?
Bucknell: Yes
Colgate: M.A. in teaching, nothing else
Fordham: Yes
Georgetown: Yes
Holy Cross: No.
Lehigh: Yes
Lafayette: No.

That's four of seven. Outside of football, AU, BU, and Loyola all offer grad courses.

[aceinthehole]

Ivy vs. Patriot League - 13 games

Ivy vs. Others - 11 games
vs. NEC: Bryant, CCSU, SHU
vs. CAA: URI, Richmond, Towson
vs. Pioneer: Marist x 2 (I would be surprised if the Pioneer plays football this season)
vs. SoCon: VMI
vs. FBS: Army
vs. D-II: New Haven (this game was likely already cancelled by UNH)

[RichH2]

Lehigh had Yale and Columbia only.

[OhioHen]

Not a mention of non-conference opponents. They've been discarded.

Perhaps these schools should respond in kind when these Ivy schools come looking for filling future schedules.

AD1: "The Ivy League team that was on our OOC schedule as a road opponent still owes us the return game without us playing at their place."
AD2: "The Ivy League team that was on our OOC schedule as a home opponent owes us whatever gate we would have gotten AND a game at our place in the future."
Ivy: "But we're the Ivy League!"
AD1: "Go ***** yourselves."
AD2: "They already do."

[Go Green]

AD2: "The Ivy League team that was on our OOC schedule as a home opponent owes us whatever gate we would have gotten AND a game at our place in the future."


With respect to assertion #2, I can see a demand/request for one or the other. However, demanding both is how phones get hung up.

That said, my guess is that the Ivy does indeed try to work things out with respect to return games (i.e., games where the OOC has already played on the Ivy's field) that were on this Fall schedule.

[Milktruck74]

With only a 7 game schedule in the Spring, will the IL institute an 8 team conference playoff? Hahaha.

[paward]

The cancellation of Ivy fall sports will in one way or another have a ripple effect. I am still fuming about March Madness void last Spring. I am sure I am going to need couch sessions and some prescriptions come August.

[Daytripper]

Will FBS follow Ivy's lead? https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/power-five-deciders-may-deny-its-impact-but-ivy-league-again-proves-itself-a-leader-in-delaying-football/

...But you knew that already. There is little comparison between those halls of higher education and football factories. The difference, of course, is money.
Without saying it, the FBS is chasing the TV revenue that sustains it. The Big Ten announced Thursday it would play a conference-only schedule (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-ten-to-play-conference-only-football-schedule-for-2020-season-amid-covid-19-pandemic/) -- if it plays college football (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football) at all -- this fall. Other leagues may soon follow. (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/2020-college-football-schedules-where-the-sec-acc-big-12-and-pac-12-stand-on-conference-only-slates/) That at least creates wriggle room to delay the 2020 season and/or create windows inside the campaign where postponed games could be made up.
Still, little about major-college football's return to play seems tethered to education....

[Sader87]

No direct connection to the FCS football-wise but the NESCAC just cancelled Fall sports,

Finding it very hard to see the Patriot League playing when like-minded institutions in now the Ivy, Centennial and NESCAC schools will not be.

[DFW HOYA]

Finding it very hard to see the Patriot League playing when like-minded institutions in now the Ivy, Centennial and NESCAC schools will not be.

Are the Centennial and NESCAC institutions really "like-minded"? (Or should I just take Georgetown and Fordham out of the conversation?)

[Sader87]

Are the Centennial and NESCAC institutions really "like-minded"? (Or should I just take Georgetown and Fordham out of the conversation?)

Yes, most Patriot League football-playing schools institutionally are more like Centennial schools like Gettysburg, Swarthmore etc and NESCAC schools like Tufts and Bowdoin than they are to most other schools playing football at the FCS-level. It is what it is.

Holy Cross coulda been in the Big East but not the NESCAC btw.....

[DFW HOYA]

Yes, most Patriot League football-playing schools institutionally are more like Centennial schools like Gettysburg, Swarthmore etc and NESCAC schools like Tufts and Bowdoin than they are to most other schools playing football at the FCS-level. It is what it is.


No one at Georgetown says "I wonder what Bates is doing."

Many of its peers play these days in the ACC, but that's for another topic.

[Ivytalk]

No one at Georgetown says "I wonder what Bates is doing."

Many of its peers play these days in the ACC, but that's for another topic.
So Georgetown views Clempson as a “peer,” now? DFW, I’m worried about you.

[DFW HOYA]

So Georgetown views Clempson as a “peer,” now? DFW, I’m worried about you.

Ha! But it does have admissions overlap with Virginia and Duke, and to a lesser extent, Notre Dame and Boston College.

[WestCoastAggie]

Ha! But it does have admissions overlap with Virginia and Duke, and to a lesser extent, Notre Dame and Boston College.

I can see that; Duke, Boston College, Georgia Tech, Virginia, Wake Forest

[cx500d]

I can see that; Duke, Boston College, Georgia Tech, Virginia, Wake Forest
There is like zero overlap with Georgia Tech.

[RichH2]

Yes, most Patriot League football-playing schools institutionally are more like Centennial schools like Gettysburg, Swarthmore etc and NESCAC schools like Tufts and Bowdoin than they are to most other schools playing football at the FCS-level. It is what it is.

Holy Cross coulda been in the Big East but not the NESCAC btw.....
Always consistent 87. Mostly wrong here. Pards and Hoyas closest to that analogy. Bucknell to a lesser degree. Gate may have been closest back when IL formalized as a league. No longer. Its D1 history belies that to a major degree. Its major rivals are Syracuse and Lehigh. Crosx is closest geograpically but not much in outlook. Fordham has no connection whatsoever. Lehigh and Colgate both emphasize athletics outside of the Ivy model.
As a league our major similarity is that PL is an academic centric group but one following a much different path than the Ivies. As Sterrett noted on Thursday the PL will not slavishly follow the Ivy or any other conference's decisions as to athletics.

[DFW HOYA]

Always consistent 87. Mostly wrong here. Pards and Hoyas closest to that analogy.

How?

[RichH2]

In comparison to other PL teams. I am not arguing slavish imitation by GU of the Ivy model. Far from accurate. Hoya's are in the Big East. However, GU has no schollies and until recently followed the Ivy model of not announcing until admission.I know scholarships are by necessity not choice.
Pards are a much closer example due to rheir administration. It seems to be stuck in neutral emulating the Ivies before they amped up their funding and emphadid of sports. Schollies were forced on them by Lehigh.Admin is aggressively anti athletics. Athletic Director has virtually no authority in the administration. Her boss is the VP in charge of the dorms.

[Sader87]

Always consistent 87. Mostly wrong here. Pards and Hoyas closest to that analogy. Bucknell to a lesser degree. Gate may have been closest back when IL formalized as a league. No longer. Its D1 history belies that to a major degree. Its major rivals are Syracuse and Lehigh. Crosx is closest geograpically but not much in outlook. Fordham has no connection whatsoever. Lehigh and Colgate both emphasize athletics outside of the Ivy model.
As a league our major similarity is that PL is an academic centric group but one following a much different path than the Ivies. As Sterrett noted on Thursday the PL will not slavishly follow the Ivy or any other conference's decisions as to athletics.

Are you being serious here? The Patriot League is very similar to the Ivy league in almost all aspects. There will not be PL football this year...put it in the books.

[DFW HOYA]

Are you being serious here? The Patriot League is very similar to the Ivy league in almost all aspects. There will not be PL football this year...put it in the books.

A five team league will be well received by the Ivy folks. Who knows, maybe they'll tell you to drop scholarships again.

[Sader87]

Nevah been a fan of the PL...but it's not 1987 anymore either.

If the league drops to 5 membahs, it just opens up 2 more OOC games.

I don't see the NCAA stripping the PL of a bid...the league provides too much college football history, academic prestige etc to the FCS-level to be cast aside like that.

I think we will see a new college football landscape though within the next 5 years or so..

[aceinthehole]

I don't see the NCAA stripping the PL of a bid...the league provides too much college football history, academic prestige etc to the FCS-level to be cast aside like that.

I wouldn't bet on that at all.

There is absolutely no incentive whatsoever for the NCAA to provide a waiver and grant the PL an AQ if it doesn't meet the AQ criteria. Opens up NCAA to many issues ... lawsuits, etc. What happens when the MEAC asks to keep all its AQ bids? NCAA isn't giving the PL anything based on the perceived "football history, academic prestige" that the PL gives to FCS - that's a fantasy.

Maybe the Patriot League creates a Bowl game vs. the Ivy, MEAC, or SWAC - but don't count on a AQ access to NCAA Championship without the requisite league size.

[NY Crusader 2010]

Nevah been a fan of the PL...but it's not 1987 anymore either.

If the league drops to 5 membahs, it just opens up 2 more OOC games.

I don't see the NCAA stripping the PL of a bid...the league provides too much college football history, academic prestige etc to the FCS-level to be cast aside like that.

I think we will see a new college football landscape though within the next 5 years or so..

With 5 members, the PL WOULD lose it's auto-bid. Deserving teams could still qualify for at-large berths. Absolutely zero chance the NCAA would go out of it's way to make an exception for the Patriot League in FCS football -- I've never heard of it being done anywhere. Not that they needed it, but the ACC actually didn't have an auto-bid for a long time in Men's LAX because it only had 4 teams (Maryland, Virginia, Duke, UNC). Of course, all 4 received at-large bids most years but that's besides the point.

If the AQ is that big of a deal and you're a 5-team conference, you simply add an affiliate. Push come to shove, I'm sure the PL could convince Marist or Dayton to come in as an affiliate.

[BEAR]

No season for LR native and Harvard football star, as Ivy League cancels 2020 fall slate

"Lots of times when I tell people I play for Harvard they’re like, oh wow. I didn’t know they had a football team. You know it’s very competitive it’s division one."

https://www.thv11.com/article/sports/harvard-football-star-from-little-rock-disappointed-ivy-league-fall-season-canceled/91-6f693be5-8383-4b10-8800-d0adb73e13b7

[FUBeAR]

Not sure where to put this...but Yale Athletics just got a whole lot better!

https://twitter.com/yaleathletics/status/1308108611428777984

Allie is a CHAMP! Treat her well & be sure to open your wallets, or trust funds, or however y’all do it up there!

[BEAR]

Not sure where to put this...but Yale Athletics just got a whole lot better!

https://twitter.com/yaleathletics/status/1308108611428777984

Allie is a CHAMP! Treat her well & be sure to open your wallets, or trust funds, or however y’all do it up there!

As assistant AD to Development, how many people will be under Ware? ( see what I did there?) :D

[bulldog10jw]

Not sure where to put this...but Yale Athletics just got a whole lot better!

https://twitter.com/yaleathletics/status/1308108611428777984

Allie is a CHAMP! Treat her well & be sure to open your wallets, or trust funds, or however y’all do it up there!

Her job should be pretty easy with Yale coming off championships in football and basketball.

[Go Green]

Her job should be pretty easy with Yale coming off championships in football and basketball.

Would be even easier if we were actually playing those sports this year... :(

[bulldog10jw]

Would be even easier if we were actually playing those sports this year... :(

Now I'm depressed :(