Florida A&M announcement

[Laker]

FAMU is having a "major" announcement tomorrow. Are they switching conferences, announcing a new building or what?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET9cHfZWkAE38nQ?format=jpg&name=small

[TheKingpin28]

FAMU is having a "major" announcement tomorrow. Are they switching conferences, announcing a new building or what?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET9cHfZWkAE38nQ?format=jpg&name=smallI knew they were trying to build a new stadium, Jake Gaither iirc, but I could be wrong on the name.

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[Professor]

The speculation is all over the board

[grayghost06]

Well, they tried the FBS thing and that never got off the ground-so I guess that's out.

[WestCoastAggie]

Prepared to be underwhelmed.

[BisonFan02]

I'm going with new logo.

[clenz]

Prepared to be underwhelmed.
When it comes to schools making any announcement that has been announced it's impossible to underwhelm me - especially when it comes from nowhere. It means nothing was worth leaking or studying with public input was needed.

By baseline for these is 0

[dbackjon]

Adding a sport is my WAG

[dbackjon]

And the award for the lamest "Major Announcement" goes to FAMU

https://famuathletics.com/splash.aspx?id=splash_4

[Laker]

Well, that was a lot of sizzle with no steak.

[TheKingpin28]

That was an absolute let down.

[Professor]

Lol what an announcement. Virtual Set Fridays

[Schism55]

Albany St?? Whizzzz

[ASU33]

FAMU Successfully trolled all of us

[Redbird 4th & short]

Well, that was a lot of sizzle with no steak.
even the sizzle was lacking

[Laker]

even the sizzle was lacking

D2 Notre Dame de Namur dropping sports and not accepting new students was a lot bigger news.

[OhioHen]

An early season win for the Rams of Albany State.

[ASU33]

Albany St?? Whizzzz

The Albany State game was announced months ago.

[pike51]

There were billboards for this up over a week ago. Not sure why it registers as a major announcement?

[Laker]

Another school announced that they are closing for good today. D3 MacMurray.

https://www.mac.edu/closure

[Redbird 4th & short]

this thread is 20 posts too many .. sh-t, 21 too many

[walliver]

Another school announced that they are closing for good today. D3 MacMurray.

https://www.mac.edu/closure

I suspect a number of struggling schools will not reopen after the current virus crisis, and more will de-emphasize athletics to make ends meet.

[DFW HOYA]

Another school announced that they are closing for good today. D3 MacMurray.

https://www.mac.edu/closure


Strike 1: Enrollment (527)
Strike 2: Endowment ($15 million)
Strike 3: Academic probation in 2016

[ST_Lawson]

Strike 1: Enrollment (527)
Strike 2: Endowment ($15 million)
Strike 3: Academic probation in 2016

Strike 4: in a small west-central Illinois town that is somewhat in the "middle of nowhere" in terms of location and ways to get there...
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oh...
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oh crap

[dbackjon]

Another school announced that they are closing for good today. D3 MacMurray.

https://www.mac.edu/closure


My Mom taught some classes there, and my brother got his nursing degree there. Huge part of the Jacksonville community.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/2019-02-15/how-many-universities-are-in-the-us-and-why-that-number-is-changing


Probably way too many colleges/universities in this country.

Survival of the fittest. More competition might drive down the price......probably not with the government fingers in it....

[ST_Lawson]

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/2019-02-15/how-many-universities-are-in-the-us-and-why-that-number-is-changing


Probably way too many colleges/universities in this country.

Survival of the fittest. More competition might drive down the price......probably not with the government fingers in it....

With regards to MacMurray College closing...probably too many colleges in that town. Only 20k residents, yet two DIII colleges (Illinois College, another private school, but with just over 1k students is ~1 mile away).

[HAL_9000]

My wife graduated from Springfield High School in 1996. Jacksonville is 20 miles to the West. My wife said the two people she knew that went to MacMurray were not going to get offers from any other schools. That is not a good sign.

How did MacMurray exist less than 2 miles away from an obviously superior Illinois College? IDK did it for a long time. It is defiantly sad that MacMurray closed their doors.

My opinion. as of one year ago I was in Jacksonville...kinda a neat town. Checked out Illinois College Campus....beautiful. Checked out MacMurray and I was like is this a joke? Again folks my opinon. I was their to meet my inlawas at an old train station that is a restaurant.

[HAL_9000]

There not their. LOL sorry.

[cx500d]

With regards to MacMurray College closing...probably too many colleges in that town. Only 20k residents, yet two DIII colleges (Illinois College, another private school, but with just over 1k students is ~1 mile away).

Carleton College and St. Olaf are two Div 3 schools in a similar size town (Northfield), and they seem to be doing just fine.

[OhioHen]

There not their. LOL sorry.

And definitely, not defiantly. :D

[ST_Lawson]

Carleton College and St. Olaf are two Div 3 schools in a similar size town (Northfield), and they seem to be doing just fine.

True, but Northfield is only like a half hour from the Twin Cities area (at least the southern suburbs), so you've got a pretty large population fairly close. Jacksonville has Springfield about the same distance away, but Springfield is no Twin Cities.

Or maybe it's just years of mismanagement by whomever was in charge at MacMurray. I don't really know much about their internal situation.

[POD Knows]

My wife graduated from Springfield High School in 1996. Jacksonville is 20 miles to the West. My wife said the two people she knew that went to MacMurray were not going to get offers from any other schools. That is not a good sign.

How did MacMurray exist less than 2 miles away from an obviously superior Illinois College? IDK did it for a long time. It is defiantly sad that MacMurray closed their doors.

My opinion. as of one year ago I was in Jacksonville...kinda a neat town. Checked out Illinois College Campus....beautiful. Checked out MacMurray and I was like is this a joke? Again folks my opinon. I was their to meet my inlawas at an old train station that is a restaurant.I have stayed in Jacksonville a couple times on business, that MacMurray college was small as hell, I drove by it because I ate in some BBQ place downtown. It is kind of a neat little town.

[DFW HOYA]

Carleton College and St. Olaf are two Div 3 schools in a similar size town (Northfield), and they seem to be doing just fine.

Carleton had a $892 million endowment in 2018, St. Olaf $545 million. MacMurray's endowment was $15 million.

If you want to follow the death rattle of private colleges in the 2020's, start looking at endowments below $35 million (pre-crash) and low enrollment. Examples include:

Mercyhurst (PA)
Culver-Stockton (MO)
Spring Hill (AL)
Chaminade (HI)
St. Francis (IL)
Cardinal Stritch (WI)
Nichols (MA)
Wheeling (WV)
New England (NH)
Mt. St. Mary (NY)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/schifrin/2019/11/27/dawn-of-the-dead-for-hundreds-of-the-nations-private-colleges-its-merge-or-perish/#7dacad2f770d

[melloware13]

Carleton had a $892 million endowment in 2018, St. Olaf $545 million. MacMurray's endowment was $15 million.

If you want to follow the death rattle of private colleges in the 2020's, start looking at endowments below $35 million (pre-crash) and low enrollment. Examples include:

Mercyhurst (PA)
Culver-Stockton (MO)
Spring Hill (AL)
Chaminade (HI)
St. Francis (IL)
Cardinal Stritch (WI)
Nichols (MA)
Wheeling (WV)
New England (NH)
Mt. St. Mary (NY)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/schifrin/2019/11/27/dawn-of-the-dead-for-hundreds-of-the-nations-private-colleges-its-merge-or-perish/#7dacad2f770d

I wonder if the Maui Invite people would work with Chaminade if it came down to it

[cx500d]

Carleton had a $892 million endowment in 2018, St. Olaf $545 million. MacMurray's endowment was $15 million.

If you want to follow the death rattle of private colleges in the 2020's, start looking at endowments below $35 million (pre-crash) and low enrollment. Examples include:

Mercyhurst (PA)
Culver-Stockton (MO)
Spring Hill (AL)
Chaminade (HI)
St. Francis (IL)
Cardinal Stritch (WI)
Nichols (MA)
Wheeling (WV)
New England (NH)
Mt. St. Mary (NY)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/schifrin/2019/11/27/dawn-of-the-dead-for-hundreds-of-the-nations-private-colleges-its-merge-or-perish/#7dacad2f770d

Well, Chaminade did beat #1 UVA in BB back in the 80's when Ralph Sampson was at UVA. I'm sure that was good for millions!

[favorite football fan]

There are probably several concerns for a number of colleges besides the obvious of endowment, academic probation, budget issues, declining enrollment. The main thing is we can always look to "mis-management". This notion is quite true because most people running an institution are academics and not businessmen. Another thing is the ideological bent of the school as well. The saying "get woke, go broke" is quite true.

If we examine MacMurray, they had 527 students and 101 faculty and staff. That's a 5:1 ratio when the ratio needs to be much higher. You can brag about small class size but you have to realize that such is not feasible anymore.

What will be the question of a number of institutions and this goes for the FCS schools as well. There is a concern that enrollments will go down IF schools are open but their campuses are closed and all teaching is done online/remotely. Why should I go to a school that is completely online and yet pay the high tuition when I can go to another school with the same academic program but less costly? Thus, the flavor of the university that we all enjoyed in our youth is totally different for today's youth. Colleges also built dorms that will sit empty (room and board). There is an increase, in an article I read recently, that said those students who were considering a gap year.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lucielapovsky/2020/04/03/the-corona-virus-will-be-the-death-knell-for-some-colleges/#423c8fe244af

Another factor is what are the "deferred maintenance costs" that schools have? You know, this building needs a new roof but there is no money for it to fix it. Thus, financial exigency is a very real prospect. Central Washington University has declared such.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6818415-CWU-Financial-Exigency-Declaration.html

But let's talk a little optimistic; what will be the game day experience and how has that changed? I went to the pharmacy today and there were two nurses outside the building. Took my temp, asked if I was short of breath and if I was sick and felt feverish AND if I had been on a cruise ship recently. Will AD's be having to hire nurses to take everyone's temp before you able to enter a stadium? But what is the psyche of the average fan? Should I go to a game or listen to it on the radio?

Many questions, many concerns, much speculation, many predictions, no answers as of yet.