NBA suspends 2019-20 season due to coronavirus

[CHIP72]

The NBA announced earlier this evening that it is suspending its season due to COVID-19. One of its players, Rudy Gobert of the Utah Jazz, has tested positive for the coronavirus.

All I can think of with this announcement is this:

NCAA - "We have a stunning announcement to make about March Madness."
NBA - "Hold my beer."

[PAllen]

The NBA announced earlier this evening that it is suspending its season due to COVID-19. One of its players, Rudy Gobert of the Utah Jazz, has tested positive for the coronavirus.

All I can think of with this announcement is this:

NCAA - "We have a stunning announcement to make about March Madness."
NBA - "Hold my beer."

Honestly, these moves by the NCAA and NBA make me start to take this thing more seriously than anything else up to this point. That's not because I think they're experts in public health by any means. It's both organizations being willing to give up such a cash cow that gives me pause about the whole thing. We as a society are certainly taking this thing more seriously than anything I can remember.

[clenz]

Honestly, these moves by the NCAA and NBA make me start to take this thing more seriously than anything else up to this point. That's not because I think they're experts in public health by any means. It's both organizations being willing to give up such a cash cow that gives me pause about the whole thing. We as a society are certainly taking this thing more seriously than anything I can remember.
There are a lot of people feeling this way....and I can't help but go


Why the **** are highly educated, world renowned, scientists who literally spend their entire lives studying **** like this just so easily ignored? Why the **** didn't Italy and China actually locking people down cause it go "Yeah, maybe it's not just the cold at this point" in peoples heads?

People have been so conditioned, over the past few years to decade, to not believe what they see or read from reputable sources. While at the same time most people's critical thinking skills have been on a curve approaching zero.

I don't get it.

[PaladinFan]

There are a lot of people feeling this way....and I can't help but go


Why the **** are highly educated, world renowned, scientists who literally spend their entire lives studying **** like this just so easily ignored? Why the **** didn't Italy and China actually locking people down cause it go "Yeah, maybe it's not just the cold at this point" in peoples heads?

People have been so conditioned, over the past few years to decade, to not believe what they see or read from reputable sources. While at the same time most people's critical thinking skills have been on a curve approaching zero.

I don't get it.

We've created a society of talking heads where it is incredibly difficult to separate fact from opinion.

I largely have gotten to where I just tune out all the noise instead of trying to parse through it.

[POD Knows]

There are a lot of people feeling this way....and I can't help but go


Why the **** are highly educated, world renowned, scientists who literally spend their entire lives studying **** like this just so easily ignored? Why the **** didn't Italy and China actually locking people down cause it go "Yeah, maybe it's not just the cold at this point" in peoples heads?

People have been so conditioned, over the past few years to decade, to not believe what they see or read from reputable sources. While at the same time most people's critical thinking skills have been on a curve approaching zero.

I don't get it.Who are these reputable sources of which you speak, seriously, who are they. Are they the ones that continuously have to print retractions, are they the ones that continuously get stories wrong and are biased. Who the **** are you even talking about? I heard yesterday that we know have 6 years to turn the corner on global warming or we are doomed, is this reputable? I have been hearing end of the world bull**** for my entire life and it has always, ALWAYS, been wrong.

List some reputable sources that I can follow on these subjects. It seems to me that in this current event that the masses, the media and the political clowns are a lot more hysterical than the scientific community.

[CHIP72]

Honestly, these moves by the NCAA and NBA make me start to take this thing more seriously than anything else up to this point. That's not because I think they're experts in public health by any means. It's both organizations being willing to give up such a cash cow that gives me pause about the whole thing. We as a society are certainly taking this thing more seriously than anything I can remember.

The thing that makes me take this more seriously is that Gobert, along with Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson, are in positions where they are probably have more ability to avoid getting the virus, but they got it anyway. My question is “how did they get the virus?” The announcements imply the virus is more widespread than previously thought.


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[TheRevSFA]

Rudy Gobert awarded Defensive Player Of The Year, since he shut down the league.

[TheRevSFA]

The thing that makes me take this more seriously is that Gobert, along with Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson, are in positions where they are probably have more ability to avoid getting the virus, but they got it anyway. My question is “how did they get the virus?” The announcements imply the virus is more widespread than previously thought.


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So Gobert tests positive...means all of the Jazz players should get tested, plus their opponents, plus anyone who used the same plane they chartered......it's amazing how quickly this thing can spread.

[POD Knows]

The thing that makes me take this more seriously is that Gobert, along with Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson, are in positions where they are probably have more ability to avoid getting the virus, but they got it anyway. My question is “how did they get the virus?” The announcements imply the virus is more widespread than previously thought.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThe people you mentioned are high profile, lets see how bad this thing is, need daily reports on their progress with the "black death". Curious minds need to know.

[clenz]

So Gobert tests positive...means all of the Jazz players should get tested, plus their opponents, plus anyone who used the same plane they chartered......it's amazing how quickly this thing can spread.
All medical staff, all coaches, all training staff, every official, every ball boy, most/all the people the scorers table.

Oh and then the families of those impacted because they come in close contact with them.

[clenz]

A second player for the Utah Jazz - Donovan Mitchell - has tested positive already.

All it takes is one patient zero in an area with the kind of contact like these professions make with other people for it to be spread almost instantly. Which is why suspending the season is the right move

[clenz]

Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn)
Jazz star Donovan Mitchell has tested positive for the coronavirus, league sources tell ESPN. Jazz players privately say that Rudy Gobert had been careless in the locker room touching other players and their belongings. Now a Jazz teammate has tested positive.





Just shocking....*massive fart noise*

He was wreckless, which makes him being positive for COVID even more problematic

[MR. CHICKEN]

....YOUNGIN'S......SEE DUH VIRUS...PASS THRU 'EM....LIKE UH QUART UH BEER...QUESTION IS.....WILL DEY......OBEY RECOMMENDED PRECAUTIONS......TA PROTECT.....DUH BOOMERS...xconfusedx.....AWK!

[Grizalltheway]

....YOUNGIN'S......SEE DUH VIRUS...PASS THRU 'EM....LIKE UH QUART UH BEER...QUESTION IS.....WILL DEY......OBEY RECOMMENDED PRECAUTIONS......TA PROTECT.....DUH BOOMERS...xconfusedx.....AWK!

xlolxxlolx

Good one, C Man.

[jacksfan29!]

Many of those highly educated, world renowned scientists are not saying what you think they are saying. Most are more concerned with the reaction then the actual virus. They are also saying that the vast majority of those affected will only have minor symptoms and many who get it won't even know they have it since the symptoms are so minor.

The "reputable" sources you likely identify with, since you seem to be pretty young, are not seen as "reputable" since they are wrong about so many things and exaggerate often so they can get people like you, and many in your generation to panic which earns them a lot of money. For those of us who are older, remember H1N1 in 2009 and the lack of panic, and recall having measles, mumps and chicken pox as kids, all viruses with transmission rates that far exceed this virus, this is nothing more than a minor distraction from our daily lives.

By the way, here is a link to an expert who believes people like you, who are in a panic, are far scarier then anything he has seen.

https://talbotspy.org/letter-from-toronto-an-infectious-diseases-specialist-reflects-on-corvid-19/?fbclid=IwAR19S6OdWNKEcIvCLQqieC_vV_DeW-dULPvOquoWSZ_XwnPCX-la0trkTWg





There are a lot of people feeling this way....and I can't help but go


Why the **** are highly educated, world renowned, scientists who literally spend their entire lives studying **** like this just so easily ignored? Why the **** didn't Italy and China actually locking people down cause it go "Yeah, maybe it's not just the cold at this point" in peoples heads?

People have been so conditioned, over the past few years to decade, to not believe what they see or read from reputable sources. While at the same time most people's critical thinking skills have been on a curve approaching zero.

I don't get it.

[POD Knows]

Many of those highly educated, world renowned scientists are not saying what you think they are saying. Most are more concerned with the reaction then the actual virus. They are also saying that the vast majority of those affected will only have minor symptoms and many who get it won't even know they have it since the symptoms are so minor.

The "reputable" sources you likely identify with, since you seem to be pretty young, are not seen as "reputable" since they are wrong about so many things and exaggerate often so they can get people like you, and many in your generation to panic which earns them a lot of money. For those of us who are older, remember H1N1 in 2009 and the lack of panic, and recall having measles, mumps and chicken pox as kids, all viruses with transmission rates that far exceed this virus, this is nothing more than a minor distraction from our daily lives.

By the way, here is a link to an expert who believes people like you, who are in a panic, are far scarier then anything he has seen.

https://talbotspy.org/letter-from-toronto-an-infectious-diseases-specialist-reflects-on-corvid-19/?fbclid=IwAR19S6OdWNKEcIvCLQqieC_vV_DeW-dULPvOquoWSZ_XwnPCX-la0trkTWg
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jacksfan29! again.

[PAllen]

Who are these reputable sources of which you speak, seriously, who are they. Are they the ones that continuously have to print retractions, are they the ones that continuously get stories wrong and are biased. Who the **** are you even talking about? I heard yesterday that we know have 6 years to turn the corner on global warming or we are doomed, is this reputable? I have been hearing end of the world bull**** for my entire life and it has always, ALWAYS, been wrong.

List some reputable sources that I can follow on these subjects. It seems to me that in this current event that the masses, the media and the political clowns are a lot more hysterical than the scientific community.

So yesterday my highly educated wife starts talking about how NIH, the CDC and I think it was Stanford just announced research findings that this thing could survive in the air, so it's much worse than previously thought. She got it all from some inside sources at NIH and experts in the field with impeccable reputations. I told her the Chinese had published that weeks ago. She said I was wrong as all of these "trusted sources" we're just announcing this ground breaking research. When I then proceeded to tell her how long it could survive in air and on surfaces, she went to read more of the report. "How did you know all that? You must have read the recent findings somewhere before I mentioned it to you.". When I reaffirmed that I had heard it from the Chinese reporting when this thing started, she didn't want to talk about it anymore.

[Grizalltheway]

So yesterday my highly educated wife starts talking about how NIH, the CDC and I think it was Stanford just announced research findings that this thing could survive in the air, so it's much worse than previously thought. She got it all from some inside sources at NIH and experts in the field with impeccable reputations. I told her the Chinese had published that weeks ago. She said I was wrong as all of these "trusted sources" we're just announcing this ground breaking research. When I then proceeded to tell her how long it could survive in air and on surfaces, she went to read more of the report. "How did you know all that? You must have read the recent findings somewhere before I mentioned it to you.". When I reaffirmed that I had heard it from the Chinese reporting when this thing started, she didn't want to talk about it anymore.

https://nationalfile.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Chinese-Disinfect-Wuhan-Trucks.jpg

[POD Knows]

https://nationalfile.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Chinese-Disinfect-Wuhan-Trucks.jpg
What is this supposed to be, a Chinese Fire Drill. It was such low hanging fruit.

[Grizalltheway]

What is this supposed to be, a Chinese Fire Drill. It was such low hanging fruit.
The sweetest fruit of all.

[Hammerhead]

So Gobert tests positive...means all of the Jazz players should get tested, plus their opponents, plus anyone who used the same plane they chartered......it's amazing how quickly this thing can spread.
And fans who received autographs. https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/coronavirus-and-the-nba-child-tests-positive-for-covid-19-after-getting-autographs-at-jazz-vs-celtics-game/

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

It's time to the release "The Last Dance" Bulls documentary!

[POD Knows]

https://i.imgur.com/Qmxa9Yo.jpg

[Laker]

Not sure if there is another NBA thread so..........

Robert Wadlow was 8'11"

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/93001907_2630128630539598_1364298968619548672_n.jp g?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=da1649&_nc_ohc=MB8aQl7IGZkAX_0dUtE&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=e845f286881f6a741bd8a9e64610c43f&oe=5EC300B2

[Laker]

With all of this talk about the Chicago Bulls, here is a story about Phil Jackson when he played basketball- and baseball- at UND.

https://www.mitchellrepublic.com/sports/basketball/6474481-Before-they-were-Bulls-Theeler-Jackson-were-NCC-heavyweights-in-the-mid-60s

[cx500d]

With all of this talk about the Chicago Bulls, here is a story about Phil Jackson when he played basketball- and baseball- at UND.

https://www.mitchellrepublic.com/sports/basketball/6474481-Before-they-were-Bulls-Theeler-Jackson-were-NCC-heavyweights-in-the-mid-60s

Apparently its only interesting if you have a subscriber account

[Laker]

Apparently its only interesting if you have a subscriber account

I can't figure that out- I don't have a subscription but I can get into it. I don't know what causes that.

[Laker]

The latest rumor.

BREAKING: According to reports,Minnesota Timberwolves (https://www.facebook.com/MNTimberwolves/?__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXlne5zvlPYecMkXW-POftpdDFsF-FkrMI337ffGKbre1Ob2Njc04qAlD_gSeid6fJw6ICY8COZUp7m ccvAkNAWXttbOB5TuKD26HJI7-ECY_gPPbfQFEhqG0i1_SxdO5y0QUrgq0PSUwhwJnl2lLvB58Dw 9fmBBvSsPy_qMsgv0zkTXl3PEsgGPNerBdon-TA&__tn__=kK-R) owner Glen Taylor has retained The Raine Group to sell the franchise.

[Laker]

Due to Kenosha-

CBS Sports HQ@CBSSportsHQ
(https://twitter.com/CBSSportsHQ)2m (https://twitter.com/CBSSportsHQ/status/1298715756683649026)
BREAKING: The Milwaukee Bucks have decided to boycott Game 5 against the Orlando Magic, per @wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn)
.

[Bisonoline]

Due to Kenosha-

CBS Sports HQ@CBSSportsHQ
(https://twitter.com/CBSSportsHQ)2m (https://twitter.com/CBSSportsHQ/status/1298715756683649026)
BREAKING: The Milwaukee Bucks have decided to boycott Game 5 against the Orlando Magic, per @wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn)
.



Then it should be counted as a forfeit and they lose the playoff game money.

[Laker]

Shams Charania@ShamsCharania
(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania)13m (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1298723709348278274)
Decision made. Thunder and Rockets are boycotting Game 5, sources said.

[Gil Dobie]

Good move by the NBA, postponing today's playoff games. Only problem is the racist don't watch or care about the NBA.

[Bisonoline]

Good move by the NBA, postponing today's playoff games. Only problem is the racist don't watch or care about the NBA.

xrolleyesx xlolx

[POD Knows]

Good move by the NBA, postponing today's playoff games. Only problem is the racist don't watch or care about the NBA.Yea, I am sure that is going to solve all of the fake problems and hand wringing out there.

[Bisonoline]

Yea, I am sure that is going to solve all of the fake problems and hand wringing out there.

Now theyre making martyrs out of criminals. Its pathetic.

[Panther88]

Good move by the NBA, postponing today's playoff games. Only problem is the racist don't watch or care about the NBA.

Not so sure about that one, Gil.

Too many dummies are caught in their blasphemous racism until they easily wear their emmitt smith or favorite bcs player's jersey to an nfl/college football game on Sat/Sun yet proclaim that they despise POC M-F. They suspend their inherent racism, at will. Duhhhhhh dummies lol. xlolx

The nba players hurt the little monolith emotions of those who envy them and subliminally want to identify and be like them l...m...a... ooooo xlolx .

[Gil Dobie]

Not so sure about that one, Gil.

Too many dummies are caught in their blasphemous racism until they easily wear their emmitt smith or favorite bcs player's jersey to an nfl/college football game on Sat/Sun yet proclaim that they despise POC M-F. They suspend their inherent racism, at will. Duhhhhhh dummies lol. xlolx

The nba players hurt the little monolith emotions of those who envy them and subliminally want to identify and be like them l...m...a... ooooo xlolx .

We'll see how the NBA meetings go today. If the season shuts down it may not just be the NBA if this continues. MLS, MLB, NCAA and NFL could all join, if you look at the big picture of whats happening.

[OhioHen]

Wouldn't those (mostly) RICH individuals effect more change by monetary donations to and active participation in community improvement efforts than by refusing to do their job as scheduled?

"I won't play because of XYZ" vs. contributing real value (monetary and especially TIME) toward the elimination of XYZ.

[Panther88]

We'll see how the NBA meetings go today. If the season shuts down it may not just be the NBA if this continues. MLS, MLB, NCAA and NFL could all join, if you look at the big picture of whats happening.

I'm more concerned how the bcs kids graduate to awareness.

bcs powers better hope their kids don't allow individuals like me, who took a sincere stand a loooooong time ago, to get in their kids' ear and influence them on the right way to effect change by making a better choice to ignore the bcs plantations.

Maker was the first of many more to become enlightened. :D

[BisonTru]

Wouldn't those (mostly) RICH individuals effect more change by monetary donations to and active participation in community improvement efforts than by refusing to do their job as scheduled?

"I won't play because of XYZ" vs. contributing real value (monetary and especially TIME) toward the elimination of XYZ.

Lots of athletes donate both time and money to these causes. Did you notice? Not really.

They refuse to play. Did you notice? I think the answer is obvious.

[OhioHen]

Lots of athletes donate both time and money to these causes. Was it reported at all? Not really.

They refuse to play. Was it reported as important and positive news? I think the answer is obvious.

FYP.

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[BisonTru]

FYP.

[/discussion]

You're literally typing this post on the internet where you have all the info you want at your finger tips. Nobody needs the "media" to tell them what is "important and positive."

[Gil Dobie]

Not so sure about that one, Gil.

Too many dummies are caught in their blasphemous racism until they easily wear their emmitt smith or favorite bcs player's jersey to an nfl/college football game on Sat/Sun yet proclaim that they despise POC M-F. They suspend their inherent racism, at will. Duhhhhhh dummies lol. xlolx

The nba players hurt the little monolith emotions of those who envy them and subliminally want to identify and be like them l...m...a... ooooo xlolx .

A mass exodus from the BCS would open eyes and certainly add to the voices saying what's going on. What's happening in real life, doesn't match the misleading statistics and news bias that people are throwing around to justify nothing is really going on.

[clenz]

Lots of athletes donate both time and money to these causes. Did you notice? Not really.

They refuse to play. Did you notice? I think the answer is obvious.
This is the truth.

Easy for the tens of millions Lebron has donated to go ignored. Easy to gloss over the school he set up to educate those in low SES areas for free. Easy to not realize just how much money, time, and effort the extreme majority of these athletes put into causes outside of their own pockets. For those without the same opportunities and advantages. The After-school All Stars program alone has gotten nearly $50,000,000 from Lebron. I hated "The Decision" as much as anyone - it still raised about 3 million dollars for the Boys and Girls Club. Lebron has it set up that any kid who attends his I Promise school will get full tuition paid for Akron and Kent State. All in all it's not out of the realm of reasonableness that Lebron has been directly responsible for a quarter billion dollars of charity work. That's just him. How much of it are you actually aware of?

Actually doing something people can't ignore and is extremely noticeable? Well, that can have an impact. You can't ignore it. As we can clearly see.

Let's also not pretend like these aren't also citizens of the US. Employees in the US. They are more than just basketball players. They are people too, and while money can help shield them and their family it doesn't make them immune to feeling the struggles elsewhere.

The shut-up-and-play crowd will be up in arms, but one reason movements like this are important is that too many people only place black athletes in the context of what they do on the court & don't care what happens when they, and other minorities, are racially abused away from it.

These are men, unified, making a sacrifice for the benefit of others. A generation dubbed entitled and self-centered. Yet here they are, standing up for others. That is worthy of praise.

[Panther88]

A mass exodus from the BCS would open eyes and certainly add to the voices saying what's going on. What's happening in real life, doesn't match the misleading statistics and news bias that people are throwing around to justify nothing is really going on.

I arbitrarily monitored here and there but -> IT <- still hasn't gained traction as I thought -> IT <- would @ the bcs level. W/ the documented words and actions by negative, repulsive individuals in bcs leadership positions, I thought the transfer portal would have exploded, considering. (See falwell @ liberty univ for a supreme reference & specific transfers out, among numerous others)

Most native born american youth of color are -> supremely programmed <- and they have no semblance of strong leadership in their home environment, unfortunately.

I also noted the recent attempts by -> bcs handlers <- to create a differing, yet still false publicized and over-hyped propaganda to quell the smoldering emotional blaze: "what happens here changes the world. hook'em." lmmfao!!! xlolx Wuuuuuutttt duhhhhh. How easy to mentally sway them to believe that being pissed on is yellow bcs rain water lol.

[Panther88]

Duh P88... special kudos to Mr John Carlos and Mr Tommie Smith for leading by example.

[Gil Dobie]

ESPN saying there will be playoffs tomorrow.

[OhioHen]

Duh P88... special kudos to Mr John Carlos and Mr Tommie Smith for leading by example.

Those two gentlemen were SCREWED by the system at the time. They protested with everything to lose, and sadly, lost much.

[POD Knows]

A mass exodus from the BCS would open eyes and certainly add to the voices saying what's going on. What's happening in real life, doesn't match the misleading statistics and news bias that people are throwing around to justify nothing is really going on.Really, what is going on, why don't you explain it so everybody can understand? Be concise.

[Gil Dobie]

Really, what is going on, why don't you explain it so everybody can understand? Be concise.

From what I'm hearing, they are saying Black Lives are not being protected the same as other Lives.

[POD Knows]

From what I'm hearing, they are saying Black Lives are not being protected the same as other Lives.That is not concise, it is a platitude. I am still trying to wrap my arms around the fact that more whites, by a margin of 2 to 1 and at a higher "incident" rate, are being killed by cops and we hear nothing, we also don't hear anything about the exponentially higher rate of black on white vs, white on black murder rates. Are they sitting out games because of that? I will begin to give a **** when all areas of "discussion" are discussed, until then, screw it, not interested. One sided conversations get old after a while.

[Gil Dobie]

That is not concise, it is a platitude. I am still trying to wrap my arms around the fact that more whites, by a margin of 2 to 1 and at a higher "incident" rate, are being killed by cops and we hear nothing, we also don't hear anything about the exponentially higher rate of black on white vs, white on black murder rates. Are they sitting out games because of that? I will begin to give a **** when all areas of "discussion" are discussed, until then, screw it, not interested. One sided conversations get old after a while.

Those are misleading statistics used to pick apart and deny what a group of people are telling us, a large group. I am on the side of believing what they are telling me about their life experiences.

[POD Knows]

Those are misleading statistics used to pick apart and deny what a group of people are telling us, a large group. I am on the side of believing what they are telling me about their life experiences.What is misleading, the black on white vs white on black murder rate? You have a problem with that, talk to the feds and the crime stat people. The other, I will grant you, is tougher to quantify but you simply cannot look at a simple population demographic and then roll up a "killed by cop" stat and call it a day, it has to be tied to individual police interactions, by group, and then formulated.

So cognitive dissonance is OK by you, facts (maybe) be damned.

[Gil Dobie]

What is misleading, the black on white vs white on black murder rate? You have a problem with that, talk to the feds and the crime stat people. The other, I will grant you, is tougher to quantify but you simply cannot look at a simple population demographic and then roll up a "killed by cop" stat and call it a day, it has to be tied to individual police interactions, by group, and then formulated.

So cognitive dissonance is OK by you, facts (maybe) be damned.

It's not just police shootings, they are saying there is excessive brutality and the criminal justice system needs reform.

[clenz]

It's not just police shootings, they are saying there is excessive brutality and the criminal justice system needs reform.
One man gets a couple years for having weed on him

another rapes a girl, gets found guilty, and does no jail time and walks free.

[POD Knows]

It's not just police shootings, they are saying there is excessive brutality and the criminal justice system needs reform.That is more class related than racial but if a specific racial demographic occupies a larger segment of that "class" then, yea. What kind of criminal justice system reforms are you referring to? If we didn't have so many freaking criminals living and walking around in this country, maybe these public defender types would actually have time to work a case. Maybe try some personal responsibility and accountability, then you don't have to deal with the criminal justice system. I need facts on the excessive brutality, the easiest way to avoid systemic issues with the criminal justice system is to avoid the criminal justice system, works for me.

[POD Knows]

One man gets a couple years for having weed on him

another rapes a girl, gets found guilty, and does no jail time and walks free.Oh agree, but idiotic sentencing crosses racial lines and is heavily dependent on who your lawyer is and how much dough you have. There is absolutely a dual system of justice, and the fact that it hits the poor harder is true. And that does have a direct impact on AA's who may be more represented in those income tiers. But it isn't necessarily racial and there are a lot of reasons people are in economic straits and most of those reasons are not racial, they revolve around how you conduct yourself.

[Bisonoline]

Not so sure about that one, Gil.

Too many dummies are caught in their blasphemous racism until they easily wear their emmitt smith or favorite bcs player's jersey to an nfl/college football game on Sat/Sun yet proclaim that they despise POC M-F. They suspend their inherent racism, at will. Duhhhhhh dummies lol. xlolx

The nba players hurt the little monolith emotions of those who envy them and subliminally want to identify and be like them l...m...a... ooooo xlolx .

Seriously????xlolx

[Bisonoline]

Those are misleading statistics used to pick apart and deny what a group of people are telling us, a large group. I am on the side of believing what they are telling me about their life experiences.

Its not misleading at all. Its fact and ruins the the prevailing false narratives. Im not denying anyones life experiences. Just dont manufacture a narrative to try and make them more valid.

[Gil Dobie]

Its not misleading at all. Its fact and ruins the the prevailing false narratives. Im not denying anyones life experiences. Just dont manufacture a narrative to try and make them more valid.

We are never going to agree. There really isn't a stat that measures police brutality and criminal justice bias. Ahmaud Arberry would have just been another statistic in the criminal justice system, had it not been for the video. How many Ahmaud Arberry incidents are out there that were not on video, and the perps were not punished. We have the NBA players, MLB players, MLS and WNBA players saying there is stuff like that out there that doesn't make the news.

[POD Knows]

We are never going to agree. There really isn't a stat that measures police brutality and criminal justice bias. Ahmaud Arberry would have just been another statistic in the criminal justice system, had it not been for the video. How many Ahmaud Arberry incidents are out there that were not on video, and the perps were not punished. We have the NBA players, MLB players, MLS and WNBA players saying there is stuff like that out there that doesn't make the news.How many ****ing murders by black people on white people are there, the facts are that twice as many whites are killed by blacks as the other way around, are you going to ignore this, are those "white" lives, snuffed out at a 2 to 1 ratio vs. white on black murder irrelevant. Let me know how many of those lives are meaningless, c'mon ****er, how many. Tell me they are irrelevant and tell me the stats are wrong, go ahead, do it. Tell me that these lives have no value because it is clear they don't.

[Bisonoline]

How many ****ing murders by black people on white people are there, the facts are that twice as many whites are killed by blacks as the other way around, are you going to ignore this, are those "white" lives, snuffed out at a 2 to 1 ratio vs. white on black murder irrelevant. Let me know how many of those lives are meaningless, c'mon ****er, how many. Tell me they are irrelevant and tell me the stats are wrong, go ahead, do it. Tell me that these lives have no value because it is clear they don't.

Considering that doesnt go along with their narrative doesnt mean its not factual. It amazing that those who ask for link and facts in past postings dont accept the facts when it goes against their narrative.

[Gil Dobie]

How many ****ing murders by black people on white people are there, the facts are that twice as many whites are killed by blacks as the other way around, are you going to ignore this, are those "white" lives, snuffed out at a 2 to 1 ratio vs. white on black murder irrelevant. Let me know how many of those lives are meaningless, c'mon ****er, how many. Tell me they are irrelevant and tell me the stats are wrong, go ahead, do it. Tell me that these lives have no value because it is clear they don't.

You aren't discussing the same issue. I'm in Panther88 mode, have a nice evening.

[POD Knows]

You aren't discussing the same issue. I'm in Panther88 mode, have a nice evening.What does that mean, that might actually be an insult although I doubt he is bright enough to catch on. I am impressed you white lefties are able to quickly occupy the realm of the people you feel are oppressed without ever actually being there, it must be that 10th sense that all douchbag lefties have, all knowing, all caring, all clueless and destructive. The great one Malcolm X stated numerous decades ago that white liberals were destructive to the cause of AA's in the country, you must not have gotten the memo from Elijah M, why don't you freaking back off, you have nothing to add to the cause and your condescension and white arrogant smugness is laughable. As much as you self flagellate, you will never wipe away your guilt. Give it up, be a man.

[OhioHen]

You aren't discussing the same issue. I'm in Panther88 mode, have a nice evening.

You don't troll nearly as well as P88.

[OhioHen]

What does that mean, that might actually be an insult although I doubt he is bright enough to catch on.

His trolling and Trumpette baiting aside, P88 is probably one of the smartest folks on this board. He chooses to "play dumb" as part of the narrative.

(Eagerly awaiting my "you don't know me at all" or "wannabe demigod" response)

[POD Knows]

His trolling and Trumpette baiting aside, P88 is probably one of the smartest folks on this board. He chooses to "play dumb" as part of the narrative.

(Eagerly awaiting my "you don't know me at all" or "wannabe demigod" response)Yea I know. I am trolling him but I think he has me on ignore.

[Gil Dobie]

What does that mean, that might actually be an insult although I doubt he is bright enough to catch on. I am impressed you white lefties are able to quickly occupy the realm of the people you feel are oppressed without ever actually being there, it must be that 10th sense that all douchbag lefties have, all knowing, all caring, all clueless and destructive. The great one Malcolm X stated numerous decades ago that white liberals were destructive to the cause of AA's in the country, you must not have gotten the memo from Elijah M, why don't you freaking back off, you have nothing to add to the cause and your condescension and white arrogant smugness is laughable. As much as you self flagellate, you will never wipe away your guilt. Give it up, be a man.

I had a nice evening, how was yours. Being you on off topic, here are some more equality stats for you PODner.

Link (https://www.epi.org/blog/black-white-wage-gaps-are-worse-today-than-in-2000/)

The black–white wage gap is smallest at the bottom of the wage distribution, where the minimum wage serves as a wage floor. The largest black–white wage gap as well as the one with the most growth since the Great Recession, is found at the top of the wage distribution, explained in part by the pulling away of top earners generally as well as continued occupational segregation, the disproportionate likelihood for white workers to occupy positions in the highest-wage professions.

[Gil Dobie]

You don't troll nearly as well as P88.

P88 says it's more enjoyable to watch a dog piss than educate the unteachables.

[clenz]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200828/3096df5acbc98d9bdac9c1722d7911bd.jpg

[OhioHen]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200828/3096df5acbc98d9bdac9c1722d7911bd.jpg

Poor analogy.

Following the directives/commands of the police is law.

"Wear a mask" is a recommendation, and even where it is a "mandate" there are numerous exceptions. Even though I qualify for a medical exception, I (generally) opt to wear the mask to keep the peace at home.

[Gil Dobie]

What does that mean, that might actually be an insult although I doubt he is bright enough to catch on. I am impressed you white lefties are able to quickly occupy the realm of the people you feel are oppressed without ever actually being there, it must be that 10th sense that all douchbag lefties have, all knowing, all caring, all clueless and destructive. The great one Malcolm X stated numerous decades ago that white liberals were destructive to the cause of AA's in the country, you must not have gotten the memo from Elijah M, why don't you freaking back off, you have nothing to add to the cause and your condescension and white arrogant smugness is laughable. As much as you self flagellate, you will never wipe away your guilt. Give it up, be a man.

Something else for you to PODner. A study of approx 93 million traffic stops from 21 state patrol agencies and 29 local police depts. has concluded that, on average, black drivers are 20% more likely to get pulled over than white drivers. A Stanford University study covering 2001-2017.

PODLink (https://5harad.com/papers/100M-stops.pdf)

[POD Knows]

Something else for you to PODner. A study of approx 93 million traffic stops from 21 state patrol agencies and 29 local police depts. has concluded that, on average, black drivers are 20% more likely to get pulled over than white drivers. A Stanford University study covering 2001-2017.

PODLink (https://5harad.com/papers/100M-stops.pdf)How in God's green Earth does a State Patrol identify somebody that is black for a traffic stop, this is a serious question, a patrol parking on a highway, radar at the ready, determine whether or not an individual driving a car, which could be a ways away, is black, white or polka dot. I will read the study when I have time, maybe.

[Bisonoline]

I had a nice evening, how was yours. Being you on off topic, here are some more equality stats for you PODner.

Link (https://www.epi.org/blog/black-white-wage-gaps-are-worse-today-than-in-2000/)

The black–white wage gap is smallest at the bottom of the wage distribution, where the minimum wage serves as a wage floor. The largest black–white wage gap as well as the one with the most growth since the Great Recession, is found at the top of the wage distribution, explained in part by the pulling away of top earners generally as well as continued occupational segregation, the disproportionate likelihood for white workers to occupy positions in the highest-wage professions.

xcoffeex

[Gil Dobie]

How in God's green Earth does a State Patrol identify somebody that is black for a traffic stop, this is a serious question, a patrol parking on a highway, radar at the ready, determine whether or not an individual driving a car, which could be a ways away, is black, white or polka dot. I will read the study when I have time, maybe.

CONTACT
Minnesota State Patrol
445 Minnesota Street
St. Paul MN 55101-5130

Phone: (651) 201-7100
Fax: (651) 296-5937
TTYL: (651) 282-6555


Office Hours: Monday - Friday 8 a.m.-4 p.m.
Mailing Address
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St. Paul MN 55101-5130
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[POD Knows]

CONTACT
Minnesota State Patrol
445 Minnesota Street
St. Paul MN 55101-5130

Phone: (651) 201-7100
Fax: (651) 296-5937
TTYL: (651) 282-6555


Office Hours: Monday - Friday 8 a.m.-4 p.m.
Mailing Address
445 Minnesota Street, Suite 130
St. Paul MN 55101-5130
Media Inquiries
State Patrol Media Line
(651) 201-7150
[email protected] % of crimes committed by whites in this country is fair below the % of the population that is white, AA's commit crimes, as a % of total crimes committed, far in excess of their representation in the population, they should have a higher chance of being pulled over as they are probably committing violations at a higher rate than whites. Why is this so hard for you, if whites are 65% of the population but were accountable for 80% of all crime committed I would expect that they would be pulled over at a higher rate than other groups because of the frequency of the crimes committed, and I wouldn't blame it on racist patrols.

[Gil Dobie]

The % of crimes committed by whites in this country is fair below the % of the population that is white, AA's commit crimes, as a % of total crimes committed, far in excess of their representation in the population, they should have a higher chance of being pulled over as they are probably committing violations at a higher rate than whites. Why is this so hard for you, if whites are 65% of the population but were accountable for 80% of all crime committed I would expect that they would be pulled over at a higher rate than other groups because of the frequency of the crimes committed, and I wouldn't blame it on racist patrols.

Do we know that Whites and African American's are caught committing crimes at the same rate? How many are arrested just because they are in the wrong place at the wrong time. We do know the innocence project demographics. How many more are in prison for crimes they did not commit?

Exoneration Demographics

225 (60%) African American
117 (31%) Caucasian
29 (8%) Latinx
2 (1%) Asian American
1 (<1%) Native American
1 (<1%) Self-identified “Other”

Other Stats



21 of 375 people served time on death row
44 of 375 pled guilty to crimes they did not commit
69%:Involved eyewitness misidentification (https://www.innocenceproject.org/causes/eyewitness-misidentification/)


Innocence Project Link (https://www.innocenceproject.org/dna-exonerations-in-the-united-states/)

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/lebron-james-angered-16-first-place-votes-nba-mvp


Give LeBron a participation ribbon.....xcoffeex

Cry me a river you idiot!

[Gil Dobie]

Lakers take game 1, might be a walk in the park for the title this year.

[Gil Dobie]

Lakers, paying tribute to Kobe, in their black mamba, snake-skin uniforms, with another fairly easy win against Miami.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

https://sportsnaut.com/nba-playoffs-tv-ratings/


No surprise.

Pricing out families going to games in person does not help either.

[Bisonoline]

https://sportsnaut.com/nba-playoffs-tv-ratings/


No surprise.

Pricing out families going to games in person does not help either.

The season and the playoffs really wasnt a season and playoffs.

Player behavior and attitude and also had something to do with it. people will vote with there wallet.

[BisonTru]

For guys that allege to not watch or care about the NBA. You sure spend a lot of time in this thread.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

The season and the playoffs really wasnt a season and playoffs.

Player behavior and attitude and also had something to do with it. people will vote with there wallet.


I've gone to a few Timberwolves games over the years and some Houston Rockets games also and the prices are/were outrageous. Even nosebleed are expensive. Pricing out an average family going to games in not in the NBA's best interest.

But I agree with what you wrote. I haven't watched a minute of these games and have tuned out the NBA for many years now. Growing up threw the 80s I loved the Magic/Bird era with Dr J in there also. Golden age of the NBA IMO.

[Gil Dobie]

Jimmie Buckets has a big night, no sweep.

[Bisonoline]

I've gone to a few Timberwolves games over the years and some Houston Rockets games also and the prices are/were outrageous. Even nosebleed are expensive. Pricing out an average family going to games in not in the NBA's best interest.

But I agree with what you wrote. I haven't watched a minute of these games and have tuned out the NBA for many years now. Growing up threw the 80s I loved the Magic/Bird era with Dr J in there also. Golden age of the NBA IMO.

https://www.outkick.com/whitlock-usa-or-nba-that-is-an-easy-choice-for-me/

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

https://www.outkick.com/whitlock-usa-or-nba-that-is-an-easy-choice-for-me/



Great article and spot on.

BLM is a "marxist, anti-religion organization"....spot on.

[Gil Dobie]

Butler out duels Lebron, Heat stave off elimination.

[dgtw]

https://www.outkick.com/whitlock-usa-or-nba-that-is-an-easy-choice-for-me/

I have seen a bunch of ads on Facebook for Outkick. They want me to send them $100 for whatever they do. They say I should because ESPN is too political.

Good thing they don’t get into politics.


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[Gil Dobie]

Lakers blow out Miami and win 17th title to tie Boston for the most by a team.

[clenz]

I have seen a bunch of ads on Facebook for Outkick. They want me to send them $100 for whatever they do. They say I should because ESPN is too political.

Good thing they don’t get into politics.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYeah the "KEEP POLITICS OUT OF SPORTS" crowd doesn't take that approach when it comes to FoxNews of the Sports world

They didn't think that when the DoD paid the NFL tens of millions of dollars out of their PR/advertising/recruiting budget in 2009 and the mandate to be on the field for the national anthem was introduced or when the massive flags and over the top patriotic shows started before the game.

People don't realize that do they?

They don't realize that all the pomp and circumstance about "Murrica" that happens before each and every game is new. They don't realize it's literally a recruiting/advertising expense to the DoD to the tune of tens of millions of dollars to the NFL.

There was a joint oversight committee investigation to this done in 2015 by the government. The oversight committee used the phrase "paid patriotism" when describing what the money was being spent on, and found it included having teams standing on the field for the anthem.

That's right - US Tax Payer money went to the NFL for forced "paid patriotism"

But it wasn't an issue until it was a political thing that the old white guys didn't agree with.

[Gil Dobie]

Yeah the "KEEP POLITICS OUT OF SPORTS" crowd doesn't take that approach when it comes to FoxNews of the Sports world

They didn't think that when the DoD paid the NFL tens of millions of dollars out of their PR/advertising/recruiting budget in 2009 and the mandate to be on the field for the national anthem was introduced or when the massive flags and over the top patriotic shows started before the game.

People don't realize that do they?

They don't realize that all the pomp and circumstance about "Murrica" that happens before each and every game is new. They don't realize it's literally a recruiting/advertising expense to the DoD to the tune of tens of millions of dollars to the NFL.

There was a joint oversight committee investigation to this done in 2015 by the government. The oversight committee used the phrase "paid patriotism" when describing what the money was being spent on, and found it included having teams standing on the field for the anthem.

That's right - US Tax Payer money went to the NFL for forced "paid patriotism"

But it wasn't an issue until it was a political thing that the old white guys didn't agree with.

Hey, I'm older than most of those old Proud Boys on ags. Those same Proud Boys are watching the NFL without complaints.

[ASU33]

If you're a Sixers or Timberwolves fan you gotta ask yourself what was your front office thinking about when they let Jimmy Butler go?

[clenz]

If you're a Sixers or Timberwolves fan you gotta ask yourself what was your front office thinking about when they let Jimmy Butler go?
If you're a Timberwolves fan Jimmy Butler is 9851465498465th on the list of things you ask about.

[ASU33]

If you're a Timberwolves fan Jimmy Butler is 9851465498465th on the list of things you ask about.

Solid point!